Out of character chat.   Posted by Storyteller.Group: 0
Hadassah bas Menashe
 player, 13 posts
 Jewish Moneylender
 Cha 3, App 3
Mon 13 Mar 2017
at 08:08
Out of character chat
Power costs coin, and you will need allies. Yes my commitment is in the pooled resources assuming the earlier commit moves the herd dot to retainers.

Her retainers will be hers of course for her needs those to manage her business dealings, tend her home, some security and likely her own Gondola with a gondolier needed. A nice well built one with a cabin and small resting place just in case. ^_^
Agnolo
 player, 9 posts
Mon 13 Mar 2017
at 15:33
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Agnolo is too new to Venice to be a member of an established group of any kind. That said, he'd be more than more than happy to join in if asked.
Antonio Caravello
 player, 11 posts
Mon 13 Mar 2017
at 16:26
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Antonio would have no issue being mutually blood bound. Friction based on roads would exist, but the mutual blood bond would reduce it a bit. Antonio views himself more as a decadent corruptor than an out and out monster so killing entertaining company for their beliefs would be simply poor taste. He wouldn't aid you if you wanted to do something really good or nice like save an orphanage, unless he could be convinced that there was some personal benefit or pleasure in doing so "Orphan vitae is simply exquisite, you say? Perhaps I'll help keep the little urchins around for the sake of fine dining." Pleasure based arguments are really his weakness, as he follows the path of pleasure.
Agnolo
 player, 10 posts
Mon 13 Mar 2017
at 16:36
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By contrast, Agnolo would be more than happy to help, even save an orphanage. No point being a dick just to be a dick, and it shows that those on the Road of Sin really aren't that bad. It's all lies told by those who want to deny the rights of the free.
Txaran Aguirre
 player, 15 posts
 Scholar-Soldier
 Cha/Man/App 2
Mon 13 Mar 2017
at 16:38
Out of character chat
And also why Txaran would work with them rather than directly against them.  He is on the Path of Illumination and seeing what others do help him reflect on what is actually true and right.  From his refined mind the two of them are essentially on the same Path, self-enlightenment, but just with different goals sought.
Txaran Aguirre
 player, 16 posts
 Scholar-Soldier
 Cha/Man/App 2
Wed 15 Mar 2017
at 04:08
Out of character chat
I can swing moving a point into the Consortium.  1 dot of Influence would make it a factor in mortal city politics which if we are a relatively successful business group that little bit of sway with mortals would make sense. Then from an outside perspective Txaran would use the Consortium to move the stuff he needs shipped.  That would tap into his copious Resources tangentially.  So to sum up (as long as Antonio shifts his herd to another retainer as was suggested)...

Current Trade Consortium
-1 Domain (Antonio 1)
-3 Retainers (Antonio 1, Hadassah 2)
-1 Allies (Zarek 1)
-1 Contacts (Zarek 1)
-1 Influence (Txaran 1)


Now a 1 dot domain is going to be a relatively small building.  Geoffrey mentioned having domain points and if he tossed one into the pool that would bring it up to a two dot Domain which is:
quote:
A church, manor, or other large structure a location with ready (but controllable) access to the outside world.

That kinda sounds like what we may really want.  Of course that still requires everyone to be on the same page with the pooled background and, as Zarek mentioned, he's not game with the blood bonding and I don't disagree with him.  I like you guys and all but this a business, not a blood business.  Maybe if each one of us dumped in 5 dots of backgrounds making the Consortium a massive undertaking I could see getting a point bound as that large of an organization could do some major work and we'd want assurances...

...but we aren't nearly that far along yet.

Agnolo says he's far too new to join in so to speak but would be happy to join as a newb.  If he brings in something useful to the Consortium that could be a nice add depending on where.
Hadassah bas Menashe
 player, 14 posts
 Jewish Moneylender
 Cha 3, App 3
Wed 15 Mar 2017
at 11:00
Out of character chat
And I'll agree to commit her own Influence and Resources to build it up slowly, we have centuries after all no need to think like mortals.

Agnolo can add Retainers no need to rush its more locating ones we can use and setting them up. Allies, contacts and influence can come in time.

But I'm sorry right now I don't trust in the game anyone enough to weaken her position as a single vampire she is on the Path of Community but is still a Setite at heart. Any alliance needs to be tested and the bounds stretched but its wise to be in a Coterie especially since we face mighty vampire elders being useful will keep us existing.
Txaran Aguirre
 player, 17 posts
 Scholar-Soldier
 Cha/Man/App 2
Wed 15 Mar 2017
at 14:34
Out of character chat
*chuckles*

Maybe it is a blood business after all...I know some people that can take care of that heart problem... ;)
Antonio Caravello
 player, 12 posts
Wed 15 Mar 2017
at 15:42
Out of character chat
Worked some things around. I'll also add 1 Influence to the pool. A trade consortium of vampires should have a reasonable amount of influence, at least in mortal circles.

That would bring us to...

Current Trade Consortium
-1 Domain (Antonio 1)
-3 Retainers (Antonio 1, Hadassah 2)
-1 Allies (Zarek 1)
-1 Contacts (Zarek 1)
-2 Influence (Txaran 1, Antonio 1)
Geoffrey de Montfort
 player, 4 posts
Wed 15 Mar 2017
at 17:09
Out of character chat
OK, 1 dot each of Domain and Influence.

So

Domain 2 (I am thinking a warehouse and the dock(s) immediately near it.
Retainers 3
Allies 1
Contacts 1
Influence 3 (Probably not completely in Venice, I am seeing us as having influence in Venice, but also in several major trade ports. I doubt the elders would allow us to gain that much influence in one city, but spread out throughout Venice and several near cities.)

.......we are missing Resources, unless we say that our Resources are our own and we simply pool what we have to increase our own personal money.

But, that looks pretty good. So we either need a name or establish we don't have a name and we are ready to go.
Hadassah bas Menashe
 player, 15 posts
 Jewish Moneylender
 Cha 3, App 3
Wed 15 Mar 2017
at 17:29
Out of character chat
Influence comes in many forms, just controlling shares in many commercial areas gives me some leverage in that area, and they as a group can petition those in power. I would rather control servants, low to middle level paper pushers and those who can muck up the system in some way before it gets to a senior official.
Storyteller
 GM, 16 posts
Sat 18 Mar 2017
at 14:00
Out of character chat
Hey gang,  been working all week so I apologize for the late post.  I usually work until 3 in the morning then sleep for two hours and then work 8. During the week when I am not working i am sleeping.

Anyways, all the work on the background pooling looks good. I do not see Resources but like hadassah stated influence comes in many forms, and if each of you has resources, then you can supply things as needed.
Hadassah bas Menashe
 player, 16 posts
 Jewish Moneylender
 Cha 3, App 3
Sat 18 Mar 2017
at 14:07
Out of character chat
And it makes the others dependent on those with money to spend, who have less money, Influence is far more vital that is where we can match powerful Elders when needed. And can lead to adding Resources and more allies and contacts.
Geoffrey de Montfort
 player, 5 posts
Mon 20 Mar 2017
at 03:23
Out of character chat
No resources actually makes sense for this sort of set up. So, do we need to set up a backstory on how we got together or we going to wing that as we go?
Zarek Grimaldi
 player, 5 posts
Mon 20 Mar 2017
at 06:24
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Wouldn't it be better if we managed this in character after meeting one another?
Agnolo
 player, 11 posts
Mon 20 Mar 2017
at 13:21
Re: Out of character chat
Zarek Grimaldi:
Wouldn't it be better if we managed this in character after meeting one another?


Yes.
Storyteller
 GM, 17 posts
Wed 22 Mar 2017
at 16:29
Re: Out of character chat
In reply to Agnolo (msg # 75):

You guys are all just waking up and heading out into Venice, making your way to the Prince's Rooms to discuss the upcoming crusades.  Feel Free to post up in the thread you can see.
Geoffrey de Montfort
 player, 6 posts
Thu 23 Mar 2017
at 03:54
Re: Out of character chat
Well, I will go first. And am assuming we are going to meet up at or after the meeting and not before. Also where is the meeting happening?

For the players: What might it take for any or all of you to act as teachers for non-exclusive or nearly exclusive disciplines?
Hadassah bas Menashe
 player, 17 posts
 Jewish Moneylender
 Cha 3, App 3
Thu 23 Mar 2017
at 12:31
Re: Out of character chat
A similar discipline taught to her, Serpentis be blood oathed to her and join the Cult of Set.
Txaran Aguirre
 player, 18 posts
 Scholar-Soldier
 Cha/Man/App 2
Thu 23 Mar 2017
at 12:55
Re: Out of character chat
Yeah I imagine that most would be willing to teach non-specifics for similar non-specific disciplines.  Which I would be willing to as well.
Agnolo
 player, 12 posts
Thu 23 Mar 2017
at 15:02
Re: Out of character chat
Agnolo would be more than happy to teach all that he knows.
Storyteller
 GM, 18 posts
Thu 23 Mar 2017
at 16:15
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Great writing thus far.
Geoffrey de Montfort
 player, 8 posts
Thu 23 Mar 2017
at 17:12
Re: Out of character chat
See, Agnolo the way that you phrased that immediately brought to mind a guy rubbing his hands together and smirking.
Agnolo
 player, 14 posts
Thu 23 Mar 2017
at 17:15
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... Imagine that...

:D
Geoffrey de Montfort
 player, 9 posts
Sun 26 Mar 2017
at 22:15
Re: Out of character chat
Where is the meeting taking place?