IkeEsq
 member, 14 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 15:36
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
They look good now!

Is there going to be a posting listing new portraits when they come out?  I seem to recall that happening in the past but it has been a while since I submitted a portrait.  Also, when submitting, should we put our RPoL ID in the message?  There was talk of one submission per UserID but I did not identify myself in my own submission.

Thanks again!
Warrax
 member, 190 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 15:42
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Glad they are working again!

Right at the moment, we aren't planning to put out a list of posted portraits, no. We may, down the line, but we're doing barebones atm to just roll everything out and get it back up and running.

You can put your RPOL ID in the message. We're also tracking e-mail addresses.
evileeyore
 member, 47 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 17:00
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax:
You can put your RPOL ID in the message. We're also tracking e-mail addresses.

oh good to know.  I forgot my ID with the submission I just made.
Warrax
 member, 191 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 17:07
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Good that you made it; today is the last day for November submissions :D
evileeyore
 member, 48 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 17:17
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax:
Good that you made it; today is the last day for November submissions :D

Which is why I spent several hours last night with paint editing the damn thing to get it "just right".  Pixel by bloody pixel.

"MS Paint?" you ask incredulously.  Why yes, I'm a masochist.  And broke.  And the more complicated photo editing software confuses my simple caveman brain.
Warrax
 member, 192 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 17:49
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
So, just to reiterate, we edit the images. We downsize them to 100x100 and shrink the file size ourselves. You need to provide an image 100x100, or ideally larger, to preserve the image. I hope that wasn't what you were doing.

:)
evileeyore
 member, 49 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 18:14
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax:
So, just to reiterate, we edit the images. We downsize them to 100x100 and shrink the file size ourselves. You need to provide an image 100x100, or ideally larger, to preserve the image. I hope that wasn't what you were doing.

:)

No.  Color changes and such.

It was a bout 187x187 pixels originally and I left it at that (I couldn't find a bigger/better version or I'd have used it).
Warrax
 member, 193 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 19:05
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
evileeyore:
No.  Color changes and such.

It was a bout 187x187 pixels originally and I left it at that (I couldn't find a bigger/better version or I'd have used it).


Oh good! I was worried :)
Visceri22
 member, 457 posts
 This is a rather amusing
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Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 22:37
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Two questions:

1. I know you said you're tracking emails for submissions, but are RPOL IDs mandatory as well, or just an optional tidbit if we feel like it?

2. You may not be mentioning which portraits you update, but will you be announcing when a month's chunk of portraits has finished being rolled out so we know when to look for them?
Warrax
 member, 194 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 22:45
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Visceri22:
Two questions:

1. I know you said you're tracking emails for submissions, but are RPOL IDs mandatory as well, or just an optional tidbit if we feel like it?


It's ideal if they're included.

quote:
2. You may not be mentioning which portraits you update, but will you be announcing when a month's chunk of portraits has finished being rolled out so we know when to look for them?


We're always aiming for the first of the month. Naturally, we'll post something if we're going to be delayed, but 2 weeks ought to be enough for us to get everything done up most of the time.

That said, this is our first official month. We will be evaluating our process and taking feedback through it, and the subsequent cycle periods. We can make choices about what we are going to do from that going forward. Right now, we're just focused on getting it up and running, and then we'll be looking for how much work it actually gives us, and what we can add on thereafter, you know?
IkeEsq
 member, 15 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 22:58
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Would it make your lives easier if submissions included relevant category, features, and keywords?  E.g. name of subject, hair color, gender, period, class, etc.
Visceri22
 member, 458 posts
 This is a rather amusing
 and catchy profile quote!
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 23:04
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Warrax (msg # 29):

Sorry to bombard you with questions about it heh. Just glad it's up and running again. I'm sure whatever the circumstances it will be great.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 244 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:10
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Visceri22:
1. I know you said you're tracking emails for submissions, but are RPOL IDs mandatory as well, or just an optional tidbit if we feel like it?

RPoL usernames in your submission email are mandatory; submissions without a username will be rejected. This is to make sure that no one submits more than one portrait per cycle, since the one-per-person rule is still in effect (in case that wasn't clearly stated earlier in this thread).
evileeyore
 member, 51 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:28
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
RPoL usernames in your submission email are mandatory; submissions without a username will be rejected.

OH NO!

I thought the "no names except artist name"  was...  oh no.


Yeah, now I see that that's on "the image".
Visceri22
 member, 459 posts
 This is a rather amusing
 and catchy profile quote!
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:32
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
RPoL usernames in your submission email are mandatory; submissions without a username will be rejected.


Considering that this is the first time we've heard anything of this new requirement, will that be going in to effect in an official capacity for the December submissions then? I know that for my own I hadn't known that this was a thing we were being asked to do now until long after I made my submission.
Warrax
 member, 195 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:47
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We arent gonna hardline it for stuff already in but come December, tis the policy.
Visceri22
 member, 460 posts
 This is a rather amusing
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Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:49
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Warrax (msg # 35):

Sounds good to me!
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 245 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 02:08
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
It isn't a new requirement; including a username has always been the rule. You can find the portrait policies under FAQs/General RPoL Information/Portraits FAQ (/help/content.cgi?t=faqs&page=portraitsfaq). In case the link doesn't work, it's in the top right corner of every screen, for those who might not know.

We're not really changing anything significant about those rules and guidelines, so just about everything there should be as reliable now as it ever was. Warrax and Grimmond can correct me if I'm mistaken, but overall I believe the only noteworthy alteration we're making is that we're only accepting submissions for the first two weeks of every month, rather than all month long. So, weeks 1 and 2 are for submissions, and weeks 3/4 will be us processing them in order to have them uploaded by the 1st of the next month.

I think everything else is pretty much the same, so new and veteran users can look to the FAQ as a solid path to follow. My opinion is, if it's been good enough for Shannara, then who are we to complain?

IkeEsq:
Would it make your lives easier if submissions included relevant category, features, and keywords?  E.g. name of subject, hair color, gender, period, class, etc.

You can include suggestions for those things if you'd like to, but as it's been in the past, we can't guarantee they'll get followed/used exactly. However, I personally think they can be helpful and I've sometimes done it myself, with my submissions, so go for it!

This message was last edited by the user at 02:12, Wed 15 Nov.

Gaffer
 member, 1508 posts
 Ocoee FL
 40 yrs of RPGs
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 12:20
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
So, weeks 1 and 2 are for submissions, and weeks 3/4 will be us processing them in order to have them uploaded by the 1st of the next month.

What will happen to submissions made during weeks 3 and 4? I'm certain you will get them. Will they carry forward to weeks 1 and 2 or be discarded?
Warrax
 member, 196 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 12:25
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Gaffer:
What will happen to submissions made during weeks 3 and 4? I'm certain you will get them. Will they carry forward to weeks 1 and 2 or be discarded?


Right now, the plan is to discard them like anything else which doesn't follow the appropriate guidelines.
evileeyore
 member, 53 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 14:59
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
It isn't a new requirement; including a username has always been the rule. You can find the portrait policies under FAQs/General RPoL Information/Portraits FAQ (/help/content.cgi?t=faqs&page=portraitsfaq).

So... if your email addy and your user name are the same... does that count?

If not you might want to clarify where the user name must be in the submission (subject or body).


Warrax:
Right now, the plan is to discard them like anything else which doesn't follow the appropriate guidelines.

That should definitely be added to the FAQ.  Or at least be included in the update post.

This message was last edited by the user at 15:02, Wed 15 Nov.

Warrax
 member, 197 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 15:16
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
As far as submissions are concerned, your RPOL user ID is the name on the top left corner of the screen when you log in. We're looking for that, because we'll already have your email address anyway.

Meantime, subject or body is immaterial to us. As long as the username is there somewhere in the email, we're good. We don't need to be super particular about it.

evileeyore:
Warrax:
Right now, the plan is to discard them like anything else which doesn't follow the appropriate guidelines.

That should definitely be added to the FAQ.  Or at least be included in the update post.


This is generally in keeping with the posted policy already. There is already documentation regarding us dropping images we deem unacceptable. We specifically list stuff like blurred or inappropriate images and such, but it's still pretty much "if it doesn't meet the standards, we drop it," and the submission window is the standard.

Cleaning up the FAQ is on the to-do list as well, of course, because it's got a mix of edits and updates from back when Shannara was doing them, and then strikethroughs from when policies changed, etc, etc. So that's definitely on the radar, but like with much else we've discussed, it's on the backburner until we can get a couple of cycles under our belts to make sure this isn't just a temporary fix. Naturally, we do appreciate this kind of feedback.
Locke1221
 member, 30 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 15:27
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
That's not really keeping with the older policy though, because if you got you submission in after the deadline for whatever reason, it would just roll over to the next month. If you guys are going to just outright toss a submission because it came in late, it really does need to be explicitly noted.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 246 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 15:37
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Like Warrax said, we'll be taking feedback and working to get the policies updated where appropriate; but yes, this is a change that absolutely does need to be clear, so we'll try to keep reminding people big and loud. As soon as we can get around to altering the official documentation, we'll put any updates in there, but that's an admin thing. Once it happens, I'm sure there'll be another announcement to let everyone know, so keep an eye out for that.
Warrax
 member, 198 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 15:38
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
This is literally the first submission cycle, so as I've noted already, we're trying stuff out and will sharpen things as we go forward. Very much on our list is an updated FAQ once we have everything pinned down, but to be frank, the refinements and particulars are not priority for us in this phase because we're just making sure we can actually sustain doing the basic job. Once we're sure that's good, then we'll start with stuff like full clarification and precision, which we do recognize is important.

Does that help some? I know it isn't a direct answer to the question, but that's mostly on account of the fact that we aren't going to have direct answers to a lot of the granular stuff just yet. This is the first cycle. We'll get it done roughly, then we'll tighten things up moving forward, because that surely needs to happen so that everything is clear and consistent.

And as Morgan just noted, we will very much make sure that our policies are clear and easily available going forward once we pin it all down.