Shannara
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Mon 30 Oct 2017
at 22:07
Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Warrax:
Thanks to the efforts of several volunteers and continued support from the moderators and jase, we are happy to announce that RPOL prtrait submissions are resuming!

The Portrait team will be taking submissions over the first two weeks of each month. If your submission comes in after that, we'll get to it in the next month's update. We will be accepting one portrait per user each update at this time.

Things to Think About When Submitting

  • Send your image to
  • When all is said and done in the editing department, submissions are reduced to 100 pixels high by 100 pixels wide (100x100) and less than 5 kilobytes in size.  However, in the game threads, portraits in use are shrunk to 50x50 for space considerations.  To view the portrait in its full size, click on it.  (RPOL keeps no larger images.)
  • Submissions must be 100x100 pixels or greater (bigger than approximately 1 inch/3 cm square on your computer screen).  Smaller sizes usually produce poor quality, and will almost certainly be rejected.  The larger the original you submit (within reason), the better.
  • Jpg's are preferred, but .bmp, .gif, .img, .kdc, .mac, .msp, .pcd, .pct, .pcx, .psd, .psp, & .tif   formats are acceptable.
  • Please send the image file by itself, without inserting it into a .pdf (Acrobat) or other unnecessary format (Word documents, etc.).  Zipped files are acceptable provided they're in a standard format that our software can un-compress.
  • Sending the file as an attachment is preferred, but links and zips are acceptable.
  • No names on the image unless it's the artist's mark.  Copyrighted photos will not be accepted, so if you see © on a photo, or the word copyright, do not, I repeat, do not send it in.  Nothing Copyrighted/Registered/Trademarked will be accepted without the artist's express permission, and we must have a copy of the permission emailed along with the submission.</ul>
  • Likewise, if it comes to our attention that the portrait is the work of an artist that has specifically asked that their works not be used on other sites (Disney, for example), it will be removed from the gallery.
  • If we are contacted by the artist or their authorized representative regarding removal of an image, the portrait will be removed immediately.
  • Images may be rejected if they are too small, too blurry to make out the details, poor quality, have words on the image, are deemed a duplicate or extremely similar to an existing portrait, or are just plain bad.  "Duplicate" is a judgment call - there is not enough room for every actor with every mood in every costume for every role they ever played, nor every model in existence.  All things equal, pictures with "character" will be given consideration over "just another face".


Quality and the 'Final Product:'

  • The final image will be cropped square - tall or wide portraits may not work well when cropped.  If your image is not square, the larger the original (within reason), the better chance the image can be used upon alteration.
  • If you submit a full-body shot, it will be cropped more tightly.  Faces tend to be preferred over full body as they hold up to 50x50 viewing resolution better.
  • If the file is less than 5k, it may not retain the quality needed once sized and cropped.
  • Images must be clear - contrast, detail, quality, color, focus, artistic ability, and overall final product all will be taken into consideration for acceptance.
  • Look through the recent submissions (later pages in any category) for examples of what quality is generally accepted.


Please contact Warrax via rmail for any questions/concerns regarding portraits and/or portrait submissions.

This message was last updated by the user at 19:04, Wed 07 Nov 2018.

Gaffer
 member, 1503 posts
 Ocoee FL
 40 yrs of RPGs
Mon 30 Oct 2017
at 23:48
Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Good news! Thanks, everyone.
Visceri22
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Tue 31 Oct 2017
at 00:08
Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
It's a Halloween miracle! :D
Rockwolf66
 member, 32 posts
Thu 2 Nov 2017
at 03:45
Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
So how long till we can see and use the new portraits?
The Stray
 member, 103 posts
 When the Cat's a Stray
 the Mice will Pray
Thu 2 Nov 2017
at 04:09
Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
With submissions resuming, will the Portrait Posse board be renamed?
Warrax
 member, 179 posts
Thu 2 Nov 2017
at 14:11
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Rockwolf66:
So how long till we can see and use the new portraits?


There are over 120 new portraits already posted from our backlog. We'll be taking in new submissions until and including the 14th of the month, then we'll focus on those and you'll see them no later than the end of the month. That's going to be our standard cycle going forward.

The Stray:
With submissions resuming, will the Portrait Posse board be renamed?


Haven't really talked about it yet, to be honest.
Mrs.Coe
 member, 59 posts
 Imaginative Writer
 Wife
Thu 2 Nov 2017
at 14:49
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax,

Thank you for taking over what is bound to be a huge job. It is greatly appreciated.
Warrax
 member, 180 posts
Thu 2 Nov 2017
at 15:02
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Mrs.Coe:
Warrax,

Thank you for taking over what is bound to be a huge job. It is greatly appreciated.


Thanks, but it's not just me! Grimmond and Morgan Coldsoul need some love too! That's our team. And like I said in the announcement, we got some big help from Shannara and jase in order to make this possible.

Anyway, thanks!
Grimmond
 member, 467 posts
 Antler-care by LIV THATCH
 "RALPH" The Wonder Llama
Fri 3 Nov 2017
at 06:45
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax got the major players, but there actually are ten players in the Posse, though the three of us stuck it out and did the lions share of the work. Some members were just there for moral support or to participate in the months long debate. As was said, it was a total group effort.
Mrs.Coe
 member, 60 posts
 Imaginative Writer
 Wife
Sat 4 Nov 2017
at 04:08
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I certainly didn't mean to slight anyone. Many thanks to the whole team that are making it possible. :)
Warrax
 member, 181 posts
Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 12:40
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Mrs.Coe:
I certainly didn't mean to slight anyone. Many thanks to the whole team that are making it possible. :)


Rock on.

Hopefully, everyone is cool with bearing with us for a bit while we get ourselves underway. We got our first batch out and now have a couple dozen more to work with already. It's November 8th, so there's about a week left before we stop taking submissions this month, so we'll see what comes in then and how we handle everything! Been going well so far, and we're glad to have the tool back up and running.
Visceri22
 member, 452 posts
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Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 18:56
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax & Team,

Do you have plans to include breakdowns of how many are added to what categories as Shannara used to, or did you have other thoughts in mind on how to handle things?
Warrax
 member, 182 posts
Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 21:11
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
It's not on the list yet, because we're just trying to make sure we can get the basic job done, but it's something we will be discussing down the line, yes. Information is good :D
Visceri22
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Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 22:04
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Good to know! Looking forward to getting to submit again!
evileeyore
 member, 46 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 06:11
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
To whom do we report when we find some that seem to be broken?

ffw191
ffr246
fmc1065
Warrax
 member, 187 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 11:23
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Here. I will look into those. Do they preview fine in the gallery and then not work in game somehow?
IkeEsq
 member, 13 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 12:19
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
They are broken in the gallery.
Warrax
 member, 188 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 12:30
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Well, that's not ideal. I'll look into it, thanks for letting me know.
Warrax
 member, 189 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 15:19
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Have a look now, I believe the problem has been solved.
IkeEsq
 member, 14 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 15:36
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
They look good now!

Is there going to be a posting listing new portraits when they come out?  I seem to recall that happening in the past but it has been a while since I submitted a portrait.  Also, when submitting, should we put our RPoL ID in the message?  There was talk of one submission per UserID but I did not identify myself in my own submission.

Thanks again!
Warrax
 member, 190 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 15:42
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Glad they are working again!

Right at the moment, we aren't planning to put out a list of posted portraits, no. We may, down the line, but we're doing barebones atm to just roll everything out and get it back up and running.

You can put your RPOL ID in the message. We're also tracking e-mail addresses.
evileeyore
 member, 47 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 17:00
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax:
You can put your RPOL ID in the message. We're also tracking e-mail addresses.

oh good to know.  I forgot my ID with the submission I just made.
Warrax
 member, 191 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 17:07
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Good that you made it; today is the last day for November submissions :D
evileeyore
 member, 48 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 17:17
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax:
Good that you made it; today is the last day for November submissions :D

Which is why I spent several hours last night with paint editing the damn thing to get it "just right".  Pixel by bloody pixel.

"MS Paint?" you ask incredulously.  Why yes, I'm a masochist.  And broke.  And the more complicated photo editing software confuses my simple caveman brain.
Warrax
 member, 192 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 17:49
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
So, just to reiterate, we edit the images. We downsize them to 100x100 and shrink the file size ourselves. You need to provide an image 100x100, or ideally larger, to preserve the image. I hope that wasn't what you were doing.

:)
evileeyore
 member, 49 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 18:14
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax:
So, just to reiterate, we edit the images. We downsize them to 100x100 and shrink the file size ourselves. You need to provide an image 100x100, or ideally larger, to preserve the image. I hope that wasn't what you were doing.

:)

No.  Color changes and such.

It was a bout 187x187 pixels originally and I left it at that (I couldn't find a bigger/better version or I'd have used it).
Warrax
 member, 193 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 19:05
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
evileeyore:
No.  Color changes and such.

It was a bout 187x187 pixels originally and I left it at that (I couldn't find a bigger/better version or I'd have used it).


Oh good! I was worried :)
Visceri22
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Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 22:37
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Two questions:

1. I know you said you're tracking emails for submissions, but are RPOL IDs mandatory as well, or just an optional tidbit if we feel like it?

2. You may not be mentioning which portraits you update, but will you be announcing when a month's chunk of portraits has finished being rolled out so we know when to look for them?
Warrax
 member, 194 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 22:45
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Visceri22:
Two questions:

1. I know you said you're tracking emails for submissions, but are RPOL IDs mandatory as well, or just an optional tidbit if we feel like it?


It's ideal if they're included.

quote:
2. You may not be mentioning which portraits you update, but will you be announcing when a month's chunk of portraits has finished being rolled out so we know when to look for them?


We're always aiming for the first of the month. Naturally, we'll post something if we're going to be delayed, but 2 weeks ought to be enough for us to get everything done up most of the time.

That said, this is our first official month. We will be evaluating our process and taking feedback through it, and the subsequent cycle periods. We can make choices about what we are going to do from that going forward. Right now, we're just focused on getting it up and running, and then we'll be looking for how much work it actually gives us, and what we can add on thereafter, you know?
IkeEsq
 member, 15 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 22:58
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Would it make your lives easier if submissions included relevant category, features, and keywords?  E.g. name of subject, hair color, gender, period, class, etc.
Visceri22
 member, 458 posts
 This is a rather amusing
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Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 23:04
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Warrax (msg # 29):

Sorry to bombard you with questions about it heh. Just glad it's up and running again. I'm sure whatever the circumstances it will be great.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 244 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:10
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Visceri22:
1. I know you said you're tracking emails for submissions, but are RPOL IDs mandatory as well, or just an optional tidbit if we feel like it?

RPoL usernames in your submission email are mandatory; submissions without a username will be rejected. This is to make sure that no one submits more than one portrait per cycle, since the one-per-person rule is still in effect (in case that wasn't clearly stated earlier in this thread).
evileeyore
 member, 51 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:28
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
RPoL usernames in your submission email are mandatory; submissions without a username will be rejected.

OH NO!

I thought the "no names except artist name"  was...  oh no.


Yeah, now I see that that's on "the image".
Visceri22
 member, 459 posts
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Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:32
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
RPoL usernames in your submission email are mandatory; submissions without a username will be rejected.


Considering that this is the first time we've heard anything of this new requirement, will that be going in to effect in an official capacity for the December submissions then? I know that for my own I hadn't known that this was a thing we were being asked to do now until long after I made my submission.
Warrax
 member, 195 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:47
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We arent gonna hardline it for stuff already in but come December, tis the policy.
Visceri22
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Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:49
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Warrax (msg # 35):

Sounds good to me!
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 245 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 02:08
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
It isn't a new requirement; including a username has always been the rule. You can find the portrait policies under FAQs/General RPoL Information/Portraits FAQ (/help/content.cgi?t=faqs&page=portraitsfaq). In case the link doesn't work, it's in the top right corner of every screen, for those who might not know.

We're not really changing anything significant about those rules and guidelines, so just about everything there should be as reliable now as it ever was. Warrax and Grimmond can correct me if I'm mistaken, but overall I believe the only noteworthy alteration we're making is that we're only accepting submissions for the first two weeks of every month, rather than all month long. So, weeks 1 and 2 are for submissions, and weeks 3/4 will be us processing them in order to have them uploaded by the 1st of the next month.

I think everything else is pretty much the same, so new and veteran users can look to the FAQ as a solid path to follow. My opinion is, if it's been good enough for Shannara, then who are we to complain?

IkeEsq:
Would it make your lives easier if submissions included relevant category, features, and keywords?  E.g. name of subject, hair color, gender, period, class, etc.

You can include suggestions for those things if you'd like to, but as it's been in the past, we can't guarantee they'll get followed/used exactly. However, I personally think they can be helpful and I've sometimes done it myself, with my submissions, so go for it!

This message was last edited by the user at 02:12, Wed 15 Nov 2017.

Gaffer
 member, 1508 posts
 Ocoee FL
 40 yrs of RPGs
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 12:20
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
So, weeks 1 and 2 are for submissions, and weeks 3/4 will be us processing them in order to have them uploaded by the 1st of the next month.

What will happen to submissions made during weeks 3 and 4? I'm certain you will get them. Will they carry forward to weeks 1 and 2 or be discarded?
Warrax
 member, 196 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 12:25
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Gaffer:
What will happen to submissions made during weeks 3 and 4? I'm certain you will get them. Will they carry forward to weeks 1 and 2 or be discarded?


Right now, the plan is to discard them like anything else which doesn't follow the appropriate guidelines.
evileeyore
 member, 53 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 14:59
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
It isn't a new requirement; including a username has always been the rule. You can find the portrait policies under FAQs/General RPoL Information/Portraits FAQ (/help/content.cgi?t=faqs&page=portraitsfaq).

So... if your email addy and your user name are the same... does that count?

If not you might want to clarify where the user name must be in the submission (subject or body).


Warrax:
Right now, the plan is to discard them like anything else which doesn't follow the appropriate guidelines.

That should definitely be added to the FAQ.  Or at least be included in the update post.

This message was last edited by the user at 15:02, Wed 15 Nov 2017.

Warrax
 member, 197 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 15:16
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
As far as submissions are concerned, your RPOL user ID is the name on the top left corner of the screen when you log in. We're looking for that, because we'll already have your email address anyway.

Meantime, subject or body is immaterial to us. As long as the username is there somewhere in the email, we're good. We don't need to be super particular about it.

evileeyore:
Warrax:
Right now, the plan is to discard them like anything else which doesn't follow the appropriate guidelines.

That should definitely be added to the FAQ.  Or at least be included in the update post.


This is generally in keeping with the posted policy already. There is already documentation regarding us dropping images we deem unacceptable. We specifically list stuff like blurred or inappropriate images and such, but it's still pretty much "if it doesn't meet the standards, we drop it," and the submission window is the standard.

Cleaning up the FAQ is on the to-do list as well, of course, because it's got a mix of edits and updates from back when Shannara was doing them, and then strikethroughs from when policies changed, etc, etc. So that's definitely on the radar, but like with much else we've discussed, it's on the backburner until we can get a couple of cycles under our belts to make sure this isn't just a temporary fix. Naturally, we do appreciate this kind of feedback.
Locke1221
 member, 30 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 15:27
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
That's not really keeping with the older policy though, because if you got you submission in after the deadline for whatever reason, it would just roll over to the next month. If you guys are going to just outright toss a submission because it came in late, it really does need to be explicitly noted.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 246 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 15:37
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Like Warrax said, we'll be taking feedback and working to get the policies updated where appropriate; but yes, this is a change that absolutely does need to be clear, so we'll try to keep reminding people big and loud. As soon as we can get around to altering the official documentation, we'll put any updates in there, but that's an admin thing. Once it happens, I'm sure there'll be another announcement to let everyone know, so keep an eye out for that.
Warrax
 member, 198 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 15:38
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
This is literally the first submission cycle, so as I've noted already, we're trying stuff out and will sharpen things as we go forward. Very much on our list is an updated FAQ once we have everything pinned down, but to be frank, the refinements and particulars are not priority for us in this phase because we're just making sure we can actually sustain doing the basic job. Once we're sure that's good, then we'll start with stuff like full clarification and precision, which we do recognize is important.

Does that help some? I know it isn't a direct answer to the question, but that's mostly on account of the fact that we aren't going to have direct answers to a lot of the granular stuff just yet. This is the first cycle. We'll get it done roughly, then we'll tighten things up moving forward, because that surely needs to happen so that everything is clear and consistent.

And as Morgan just noted, we will very much make sure that our policies are clear and easily available going forward once we pin it all down.
Grimmond
 member, 469 posts
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Sat 2 Dec 2017
at 18:40
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan is correct ... although, you MAY submit entries ALL month long, I scoop them up on a certain date then leave the bin once more and allow it to accumulate entries. So there is a date that your new entries have to be submitted if you want them "THIS MONTH".
Grimmond
 member, 470 posts
 Antler-care by LIV THATCH
 "RALPH" The Wonder Llama
Sat 2 Dec 2017
at 18:46
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Locke1221 (msg # 42):

Locke1221 ... I handle the first intake of submissions. Emails come to us and are left in a "bin" no matter what day of the month they arrive. I don't check the bin the day before or the day after a cycle, or any other day of the month. So emails just "accumulate".

There is an "intake day" that I cycle through hem each month. I grab all of the submissions on that day and move them to a working directory. I strip the images out of the emails, check them for approval, and pass them on to a working directory.

This procedure is effectively the doorway to the cycle. So everything on the doorstep at that time comes in, and everything left on the stoop after gets looked at next month.
Gaffer
 member, 1510 posts
 Ocoee FL
 40 yrs of RPGs
Sun 3 Dec 2017
at 14:21
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Grimmond (msg # 46):

That makes a lot more sense. Thanks, Grim.
Flarelord
 member, 379 posts
Wed 17 Jan 2018
at 01:21
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Does the next update run toward the end of jan?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 249 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 17 Jan 2018
at 05:06
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Flarelord (msg # 48):

Yes! One of our team had to take some time away over the holidays, so we're working on both December's and January's upload right now. We'll make our first post about uploads at the end of this month.
Flarelord
 member, 380 posts
Wed 17 Jan 2018
at 06:07
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
awesome, good to know you plan to announce when :)
treatedshammy
 member, 3 posts
Mon 5 Feb 2018
at 16:22
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
In reply to Flarelord (msg # 48):

Yes! One of our team had to take some time away over the holidays, so we're working on both December's and January's upload right now. We'll make our first post about uploads at the end of this month.


What was the latest with this then?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 251 posts
 25+ years experience
Mon 5 Feb 2018
at 18:16
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We are waiting from some data from one of our members to make that post. Uploads have already been done; we're just dealing with the actual announcement.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 252 posts
 25+ years experience
Mon 12 Feb 2018
at 09:51
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We're still getting some data together to format a proper announcement post, but y'all can go ahead and find plenty of new portraits uploaded to the galleries from December and January! Please remember to try and have any submissions for this month in by Valentine's Day.
Flarelord
 member, 382 posts
Mon 12 Feb 2018
at 12:57
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I... can't really see anything new in most of the female galleries?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 253 posts
 25+ years experience
Mon 12 Feb 2018
at 19:03
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Hmm, I can see some of them but you're right, a few submissions I know we've gotten definitely aren't where I can find them. Warrax will have to take a look and see what's up. In the meantime, please go ahead and avail yourselves of the other uploads.
Flarelord
 member, 383 posts
Sat 17 Feb 2018
at 02:33
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Curious if there's any word on the previous batch?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 254 posts
 25+ years experience
Sat 17 Feb 2018
at 03:46
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We did have an error with the most recent upload that we are working to fix; specifically, a number of the December/January portraits seem not to have made it correctly into the gallery. Warrax is looking into it and we'll make an announcement once we've gotten it hammered out.

If that's not what you mean, then you'll have to be more specific. D:
Flarelord
 member, 384 posts
Sat 17 Feb 2018
at 04:23
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
No worries. I was just wanting to resubmit if needed. That was what I was asking about.

Good luck with the glitch :)
Rockwolf66
 member, 34 posts
Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 00:10
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Hopefully we will hear something soon.

I submitted an image of a character and with any luck I can use an Exact image of my character that was commissioned a couple of years back for a non-Rpol game.
lensman
 member, 186 posts
 Crestline, CA, -8 GMT
Fri 2 Mar 2018
at 03:25
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I submitted a portrait in Feb., have looked through a number of most likely Category, not seeing it.

ETA?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 256 posts
 25+ years experience
Sun 4 Mar 2018
at 21:04
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We have received the February submissions, which are edited and ready for upload. We will also be continuing to accept submissions for March. However, one of our team members appears to have gone unexpectedly MIA while investigating some problems with the January upload, so we are somewhat behind schedule.

If anyone is interested in helping to do the upload step, please let the mods know! We would welcome additional team members to further streamline our process.
mexal
 member, 172 posts
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 15:27
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
What does the process involve?
Shannara
 moderator, 3780 posts
 Keep calm, drink more
 COFFEE!!!!
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 17:41
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Actually, please let jase know rather than the mods, or simply discuss it with those now doing the portraits.

The moderators aren't really involved in this process now.  :-)
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 257 posts
 25+ years experience
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 18:36
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thank you! As always, our veteran Shannara is more an expert about it than me. So, please let jase know if you want to join the team.

We've broken the process into three steps. The final step is simply uploading sorted and edited commissions to the gallery, which requires access to FTP software. A knowledge of PHP and similar is useful in case there's a minor hangup and you need to figure out the glitch, apparently, but I don't know that it's required. The FTP part is the critical one.
mexal
 member, 173 posts
Wed 7 Mar 2018
at 16:24
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Is that the bit you need a hand with? 'Cos I have FTP software and know my way around PHP.
Flarelord
 member, 386 posts
Wed 7 Mar 2018
at 16:32
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Would that I could, but I lack the skills. Here's hoping mexal can help!
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 258 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 7 Mar 2018
at 17:13
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to mexal (msg # 65):

Yes, that's the part where we're currently missing hands. If you'd like to help us out, please let jase know, as Shannara said. We thank everyone for all their offers of assistance!
mexal
 member, 174 posts
Thu 8 Mar 2018
at 10:48
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
OK, I have sent Jase an rMail.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 259 posts
 25+ years experience
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 15:41
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
The submissions for February should be available in the gallery, now. Apologies for the delay; if you notice any errors, please report them as usual! We're doing spot checks as we go into preparing March's submissions for upload by the end of the month.
Flarelord
 member, 391 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 17:12
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Yay, my old upload was there this time :D
\o/ Thanks, all :D
treatedshammy
 member, 4 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 17:47
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
If a submitted one (from around Jan I submitted) isn't up, I assume that means it wasn't approved then for some reason or another? If so, as far as I saw I had followed the criteria in terms of size and such so what other reason could it have been denied?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 260 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 18:05
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I really couldn't say. It might have been a duplicate, or it could be in a gallery different from the one you'd expect. There have been several times in the past when I submitted a portrait, and it was placed into a gallery other than the one I had kind of assumed from the outset. I'd recommend checking all the galleries, in case it's not in the one you were thinking of at the time of submission.
PaulK
 member, 219 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 18:18
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Iím in a similar situation with a February submission.  Iíve tried all the gallerys I consider at all likely.  Unless it got slotted in somewhere in the middle I canít see it.

It did need to be reduced in resolution and file size, and that might not have worked out, but I canít think of any other reason it might have been rejected.
Bornite
 member, 40 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 18:30
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
PaulK:
Iím in a similar situation with a February submission.  Iíve tried all the gallerys I consider at all likely.  Unless it got slotted in somewhere in the middle I canít see it.

It did need to be reduced in resolution and file size, and that might not have worked out, but I canít think of any other reason it might have been rejected.



Pretty much the same here, except I did have it sized correctly as well as a larger version.  Even listed some suggested key words/tags.

That's one thing I haven't seen for a while is any tags for newer portraits.
Bornite
 member, 41 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 18:52
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Something that came to mind that might be of help for people looking through for their submission is when you announce that a batch has been posted, list how many went into which category.  I seem to remember that this had been done previously.  It would at least cut down the number of locations that someone might have to look through.  ;-)
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 261 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 18:56
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We had some errors with a couple of earlier uploads, and the team is doing a double-check to see what made it in and whether anything was missed. It's hard to give a straight answer without knowing what the specific submission was, but rest assured we're trying to get it all smoothed out.

New submissions will always go on the end, so if you don't see yours, then something probably happened with the FTP upload. We haven't rejected very many, at all, and those only because they were dupes or (in one case) because there was simply no way to make it look usable due to blurriness/pixelation/etc. All the rest have been processed and edited, but the uploads caused one of us a bit of trouble, and so we're going over that part with a fine-toothed comb to make certain everything got where it was supposed to.

If you don't see yours, let us know! Please keep in mind that March submissions haven't been dealt with, yet, so it should only be January or February that might have been affected. And yes, we're getting together a list of how many were added to which gallery, too, just like Shannara always did. Eventually the bugs will work themselves out, please just be patient. <3
treatedshammy
 member, 5 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 19:04
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Morgan Coldsoul (msg # 76):

I've searched as deeply as I can (though I wasn't completely sure how to search by newest ones so I just sorta went through all) but I still can't find my own submission that I submitted in the end of December actually (just saying so it's known when it was submitted)
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 262 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 19:11
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We'll take a look at that month, then, too. Thanks for letting us know.
lensman
 member, 188 posts
 Crestline, CA, -8 GMT
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 19:32
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
My submission in Feb is not in the Male > Fantasy > galleries as far as I can tell.
PaulK
 member, 220 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 19:52
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Mine isnít a duplicate as far as I can tell.  If it was the one that wasnít usable - is there any way to find out ? I could resubmit at higher quality next month.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 263 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 20:09
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
There's not a great way to tell, no. I can try and take a look through the submission emails, if they haven't been deleted, though there's little guarantee anything that went to the bin after attachments were uploaded is still there. Like I said, there have just been a small handful that were rejected, so chances are good yours is supposed to be in the gallery; it just may not have made it properly in there because of the difficulties we've had in the last few weeks.

And once again, be sure to check every gallery, just in case. The newest ones are always on the last page or two. There have been times when something I looked at and thought "Male > Fantasy > Warrior" instead wound up in "Male > Scifi > Human" and so on. It does happen.
PaulK
 member, 221 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 20:35
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Iíve tried more galleries with no luck.  Any info about the reject might help, like the original resolution (even a roug( idea) or just a description - but if itís not something you can remember off hand I suppose there are more important things on your plate.

While the uploads arenít working reliably it might be worth recording the rejects.  I know itís more work and I wouldnít suggest it if there wasnít all this uncertainty.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 264 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 20:52
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
What I'd recommend for now is, if you've searched the last pages in all the galleries and can't find your particular portrait, send us an email with your submission attached and "submission verification" in the subject line. Put the month you originally submitted it in the body to help us narrow down where to look, and we'll compare it to what we've worked on and make sure it's in the output folder so we can track it down.
PaulK
 member, 222 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 22:02
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Done, thank you.  (Though I admit to not checking the Pokťmon galleries!)
evileeyore
 member, 75 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 22:25
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Any chance the rejected submitters could be notified and told why when they are rejected?  It would certainly cut a little bit of some people's wondering "was I rejected" queries out of the mix in the future.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 265 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 22:29
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Shannara didn't see a reason to do that, and given her experience, I think trusting her judgment is probably safe.
lensman
 member, 189 posts
 Crestline, CA, -8 GMT
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 22:43
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Then I urge you to change the policy for the better.
alexsayshi
 member, 60 posts
Tue 20 Mar 2018
at 01:08
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
treatedshammy:
I've searched as deeply as I can but I still can't find my own submission that I submitted in the end of December actually


If its the one for my game that you're talking about, then I found it in the galleries. I sent you a PM there about it :)
treatedshammy
 member, 6 posts
Tue 20 Mar 2018
at 11:23
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
alexsayshi:
If its the one for my game that you're talking about, then I found it in the galleries. I sent you a PM there about it :)


They were correct, seems like it was the one section i had accidentally missed. So sorry for my being a dumb and missing it
Flarelord
 member, 392 posts
Wed 21 Mar 2018
at 05:32
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thanks again, everyone. People are glad to see my Icon :) Got my march sub in :)
PaulK
 member, 224 posts
Thu 5 Apr 2018
at 19:30
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
So far as I can tell my February submission did not make it through (I did send a confirmation, as advised).  On the assumption that it was the quality that was the problem Iíll resubmit a higher-quality version unless told otherwise,
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 267 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 5 Apr 2018
at 22:29
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
A reminder too, just in case, not to submit links to images. Make sure your submission is attached to your email as a file!
Flarelord
 member, 394 posts
Fri 6 Apr 2018
at 12:17
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Awww, got excited seeing you posted Morgan :)  Really glad the submissions were opened back up; just wanna say thanks for having it up and running.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 268 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Fri 6 Apr 2018
at 14:45
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
The three of us (with Shannara's sage counsel) are just doing our best to try and help out this site we all love!
Flarelord
 member, 397 posts
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 17:04
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
The March submissions aren't in yet, right?
PaulK
 member, 225 posts
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 17:15
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I think that those that were successfully uploaded are in.  From what Iíve been told in email (thank you) my February submission was accepted - but so far as I can tell it hasnít been successfully uploaded even now.  There are still problems, it seems.
Mad Mick
 member, 945 posts
 GURPS beyond measure,
 outlander
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 02:56
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thanks for your efforts, everyone.
Visceri22
 member, 461 posts
Wed 25 Apr 2018
at 12:57
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Admittedly, I'm a bit behind in the goings on of the new portrait team so forgive me if I've missed something and sound like a broken record here.

Assuming we got our submissions in on time, the estimated upload time for the month's portraits are the last week or two of the month, correct? Not sure if the team is still working on previous months' submissions, though it wouldn't surprise me considering the likely backlog of people's desired submissions during the gallery's downtime.

TL;DR - Checking to see if we should be looking for April's submissions to have been added yet or if patience should continue to be a virtue.

Thanks for the hard work portrait team!
Flarelord
 member, 398 posts
Wed 25 Apr 2018
at 12:59
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Patience I think. Waiting on mine from last month ^^
Flarelord
 member, 399 posts
Sat 5 May 2018
at 15:05
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Speaking of which, though. I would like to check in and see how that's going, given it has been a while. Not really intending to rush it, but I am curious how it's going.
Netta
 member, 30 posts
 Do no harm
 but take no shit.
Sat 26 May 2018
at 16:15
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Visceri22:
Assuming we got our submissions in on time, the estimated upload time for the month's portraits are the last week or two of the month, correct?


I'm curious about this, as well. I'm not sure if I should be looking for my submission now or at the end of June.

Thanks to the portrait team. :)
Flarelord
 member, 401 posts
Sat 26 May 2018
at 18:41
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I'm still waiting for one sent about a month or two ago. ^^;
Flarelord
 member, 402 posts
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 13:48
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Checking in on this - any word on the next gallery update?
Netta
 member, 31 posts
 Do no harm
 but take no shit.
Sat 23 Jun 2018
at 19:01
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Hey. :)

Is there any update on portrait submissions?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 269 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 28 Jun 2018
at 03:50
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
You should be able to see submissions to the female and neutral galleries. Unfortunately, there's some kind of coding error going on with the male gallery, so this month's and last month's submissions for that section have been processed but not yet successfully uploaded. The team is working to resolve the situation, and may have a workaround; as soon as there's an update on these circumstances, we'll make an announcement here.
Flarelord
 member, 403 posts
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 14:46
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I don't actually see anything new in any of the female galleries, don't look at neutral enough to tell, though.
Visceri22
 member, 462 posts
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 20:17
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thanks for the heads up!
Kessa
 member, 563 posts
 Dark Army:
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Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 07:44
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
A little help, please.

I submitted a portrait on 5/31/18 that would have been very decidedly female. My understanding is that it should have been left in the Inbox to be processed during this last upload. Definitely not in any of the galleries. Just went through them all.

Is there a delay in new portraits popping into the galleries?

No emails about it even in my Junk Folder. No watermark or other attribution on the image. Nothing inappropriate. I didn't size it down, but I beleive that's part of the process it goes through after submission. Should have been high enough quality to size down, I believe. Not a duplicate of something already in the galleries. Username in the email text.

Did I forget or overlook something else that was needed?
evileeyore
 member, 99 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 09:19
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
And that post above is why I've always felt that those rejected and accepted should be told.  And if rejected, why.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15595 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 09:52
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to evileeyore (msg # 109):

Please bear in mind that the portrait volunteers (like everybody who works for the site) perform their function for free, and in their own spare time.  How they allocate that time is entirely up to them.
Hapax Legomenon
 member, 12 posts
Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 10:01
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to bigbadron (msg # 110):

Sure, absolutely right.  But it can't hurt to make polite suggestions.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15596 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
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Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 10:09
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
The suggestion had been made before.
Kessa
 member, 564 posts
 Dark Army:
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Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 17:17
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
It isn't a huge issue if it was rejected, but it seems to me there could be some upload issue we aren't aware of yet. I'm less sure, but I also didn't seem to see any new portraits after the upload. Usually, these would show up at the end of the previous images, unless something has changed. I did go through literally every image in every gallery looking for what I submitted though-- which took a hot minute. ^_^ I know Male portraits were stored separately from Female and Neutral once upon a time, but I'm not sure if this is still the case and, if not, if whatever is affecting the Male gallery might also actually be affecting them all. Either way, it's worth bringing up for a check, even if it's just to make sure all the volunteer hours aren't being wasted on images that aren't updating in the end.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15597 posts
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Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 17:26
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Kessa:
I know Male portraits were stored separately from Female and Neutral once upon a time, but I'm not sure if this is still the case and, if not, if whatever is affecting the Male gallery might also actually be affecting them all.

That is still the case.
Netta
 member, 32 posts
 Do no harm
 but take no shit.
Fri 3 Aug 2018
at 14:52
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Just checking to see if there's possibly an update? Thanks in advance. :)
jaws78
 member, 10 posts
 To err Is human ...
 ... to role play divine.
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 05:37
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I see that after the notice of portrait submissions being closed this thread is alive and well.  Any chance the notice can be updated if they are open or not?

I'm confused.

Thank you all for everything you do!  It is my favorite playground.
Flarelord
 member, 404 posts
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 17:20
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Yeah; themost recent time they've said they updated I didn't see anything in any of the female galleries.  I've been waiting since Feb/March for an earlier submission to pop in.  It's mostly people checking up on it...
jaws78
 member, 11 posts
 To err Is human ...
 ... to role play divine.
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 17:50
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Ahh ok, thanks for the update.  We do have like a million options here but I do struggle with some of the cultural diversity.  We are a bit spoiled though ;)
Grimmond
 member, 480 posts
 Antler-care by LIV THATCH
 "RALPH" The Wonder Llama
Mon 27 Aug 2018
at 15:07
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We are still on hold. We have an issue apparently with permissions to upload images. We are attempting to get an answer from Jace but he has been absent for a bit. As soon as we have this figured out we will have a very large image dump (March, April, May, June, July and August submissions).

So hang tight. There is still a pilot in the cockpit.
Hapax Legomenon
 member, 18 posts
Mon 27 Aug 2018
at 15:08
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Grimmond (msg # 119):

The update is super appreciated, thanks much!
Netta
 member, 33 posts
 Do no harm
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Mon 27 Aug 2018
at 15:21
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thank you!!!
Kessa
 member, 569 posts
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Mon 27 Aug 2018
at 19:40
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Ah! Makes sense! Thanks for the update Grimmond! ^_^
Grimmond
 member, 481 posts
 Antler-care by LIV THATCH
 "RALPH" The Wonder Llama
Mon 27 Aug 2018
at 19:56
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We will strive to keep you guys informed. No problem.
jaws78
 member, 12 posts
 To err Is human ...
 ... to role play divine.
Tue 28 Aug 2018
at 06:49
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
As always the best RP site anywhere.
liblarva
 member, 569 posts
Tue 28 Aug 2018
at 21:00
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thank you all for the mountains of work to keep the site going. Not just the portraits, but all of it. It's appreciated.
Shadewolfe
 member, 84 posts
Mon 8 Oct 2018
at 04:43
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017

Roger that.  I'll sit on my possible submissions until I know yall are caught up and the queue is clear.  I've not no interest in piling on work if the system is effectively down.
Grimmond
 member, 482 posts
 Antler-care by LIV THATCH
 "RALPH" The Wonder Llama
Mon 8 Oct 2018
at 16:59
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
So our problem was with a sudden change to the system that no one saw coming or could explain. It "may" be fixed. We are doing some tests to verify that we are able to upload once again.

So you may make submissions as you like. They will just continue to stack up in the "in box" if you will until we are able to upload them once more. When we get the uploads going again we will let you know.
callen
 member, 41 posts
Mon 8 Oct 2018
at 17:51
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Grimmond (msg # 127):

Thanks for the heads up and the suggestion of continuing submissions. I'd known something was wrong a while before it showed up in discussion here and went the same route as Shadewolfe: stop and let you all catch up. Nice to hear you feel like you're making progress. Thanks for the hard work!!!

This message was last edited by the user at 17:51, Mon 08 Oct 2018.

Flarelord
 member, 405 posts
Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 17:07
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thought about uploading something earlier, decided to check and see if it was still down first, though :D
808writer
 member, 4 posts
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 01:28
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I'm certain this question has been asked, I just submitted two portraits, when will I know they are available to use?

Further, not trying to be condescending, but why not make it available for users to simply edit avatars that they want to use themselves?
bigbadron
 moderator, 15663 posts
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 but mostly he's Ron.
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 05:19
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to 808writer (msg # 130):

As mentioned in the FAQs, there are five reasons why we prefer to have control over the submitted images:
the FAQs:
  • Quality control, we make sure the size is the same, the image is as small (in size) as possible without compromising quality, the photo/drawing area are as similar as possible.

  • Avoiding error/cross boxes (when an image no longer exists).

  • Avoiding inline linking (a.k.a hotlinking, direct linking, offsite image grabs) issues.

  • Avoiding "bandwidth exceeded" errors/images.

  • Completely eliminates the possibility of a member using an inappropriate image.

The current technical issues do not invalidate any of those.
808writer
 member, 5 posts
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 18:16
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I think you guys are severely underestimating the knowledge of your users if errors is your concern. Maybe I'm just not well informed for such a large website but all of these concerns seem minor and not that big of an issue. Placing a small explanation of how to properly upload images and then simply letting users upload the avatars of the characters that they want to have seems like a very basic and simple thing to do. And if there are issues, seeking out the help of a Moderator at that point.

Further if your fear is quality control (ie dick picks or something lewd) that can also be monitored by Moderators, I will agree that the Moderators having full control does make this process even easier, it just makes those that have to wait for the beginning of each month for an avatar of their character in their games a bit annoying.

I'm not trying to be argumentative or condescending, simply have a better grasp on why the process is annoying.

Thank you for linking that for me, could you answer my first question as well? Do I have to wait for the beginning of next month for my avatars and is there anyway to know when those avatar images are uploaded? Or do I just have to keep checking?

Sorry for the questions (I think it might help if you guys just do a massive text post of all of this information and Notice it - for example, "indefinitely no longer taking portrait submissions" is still a notice so I didn't submit my portraits for a long time until I noticed this threaed). And thank you for answering them in advance <3
Shannara
 moderator, 3799 posts
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Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 19:00
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Portrait updates are on hold as the script to finish the process in the gallery is not currently functioning.  Only jase can fix it, so until he does, the process is on hold.

Also, until and unless jase moves the portrait hosting to RPoL or other hosting of his choosing, the portraits are hosted by volunteers -- and I am one of them.

If RPoL allowed anyone to upload any picture they wanted to, even with size restrictions, I would cease providing the space and bandwidth immediately, because I don't care to take that risk. I can't speak for the other volunteer who hosts the female/neutral portraits, but she might have concerns of her own.

I believe that jase has eventual plans to move the portrait hosting to RPoL's servers ... once he does that, he may make other changes.

This message was last edited by the user at 19:02, Wed 07 Nov 2018.

bigbadron
 moderator, 15665 posts
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Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 19:42
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Shannara (msg # 133):

I can speak for the other volunteer, and she would definitely not be happy with the idea of random strangers being given the ability to upload images to the space that she pays for (as opposed to the current system, where she knows who is doing it).
Shannara
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Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 20:05
Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Replying so that the subject line is changed as well.

To repeat:

The script that adds the portraits to the gallery is currently not functioning.

Jase is the only one who can fix it.

Until he does, portrait submissions cannot be added to the gallery.

We do not have any kind of estimate as to when the issue will be fixed, unfortunately.

Until that time, if you want to use a portrait other than the ones in the gallery, you will have to use code (/help/?t=faqs&page=rubbcode) to bring the picture into your post.
808writer
 member, 6 posts
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 21:48
Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Thanks for getting back to me, like I said I'm not here to argue or fight anyone, was just genuinely curious why a simple feature wasn't added. However I understand that having inappropriate pictures, advertisements of any kind are an issue that is easily avoidable if the portraits are filtered through mods in the first place, and as you aid above, apparently just a preference.

I won't post more on this matter, though I am disappointed to find that I have to wait, again, for two avatar pictures for a game I've been playing in for almost three years now. But such is life.
tibiotarsus
 member, 15 posts
Wed 14 Nov 2018
at 22:52
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Ahoy glorious leaders!

Thank you for keeping us updated, even if I only just found this thread (I'm smart, hdurr).

Some related questions: where will it be announced or obvious when portraits are going again, and/or if the Gallery Updates thread over at Portrait Posse is defunct, is there a way to tell whether a portrait has been rejected or simply put in an unexpected place?

Thank you!
Netta
 member, 34 posts
 Do no harm
 but take no shit.
Tue 25 Dec 2018
at 00:03
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May we have an update? :)
Shannara
 moderator, 3808 posts
 Keep calm, drink more
 COFFEE!!!!
Tue 25 Dec 2018
at 00:29
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The issue is one that will need to be addressed by jase.

I'm sure he'll let us know when things are working again.
ladysharlyne
 member, 2413 posts
 you have to risk the
 dark to see the light
Wed 6 Feb 2019
at 19:03
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Just want to thank you all behind the gallery and am sure it will be fixed in good time but just to say that you all are appreciated xx
LordAshes
 member, 20 posts
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 18:45
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Why not provide an option to use third party links hosted on third party sites for portraits. That way there is no need to maintain a gallery but users can still get the benefit of custom portraits.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15695 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 19:09
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Because we have, on numerous occasions, alreay ruled out such an option.

Having a gallery provides us with control over the quality and content of the portraits, to name just two reasons.

The FAQS:
Why can't I link to an image elsewhere?

Five reasons;

    Quality control, we make sure the size is the same, the image is as small (in size) as possible without compromising quality, the photo/drawing area are as similar as possible.

    Avoiding error/cross boxes (when an image no longer exists), ŗ la .

    Avoiding inline linking (a.k.a hotlinking, direct linking, offsite image grabs) issues.

    Avoiding "bandwidth exceeded" errors/images.

    Completely eliminates the possibility of a member using an inappropriate image.
        /help/?t=faqs&page=portraitsfaq

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evileeyore
 member, 156 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Sat 9 Mar 2019
at 23:00
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Not sure it really matters but portrait mms244 is not in fact a male soldier... it's Christina Cox from the tv show Combat Hospital.
callen
 member, 45 posts
Mon 11 Mar 2019
at 21:20
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In reply to evileeyore (msg # 143):

It's happened before. I believe the policy is to just leave them because dealing with the gap is more troublesome than having a misplace picture.
DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1454 posts
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 08:13
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Wouldn't it be easier to simply have tags and thus each page list by tag rather than manually organizing them? That way you could easily fix an issue like this as well as making the search mechanisms more flexible and expandable.
tibiotarsus
 member, 34 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 08:55
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They're trying to implement tags, but since the system wasn't set up like that it's just a few volunteers tagging a handful of portraits whenever and the search function is still pretty useless as yet. If you want to find portraits it's best to trawl everything that might possibly be related - and some that aren't! By the 'we put it where users suggest' thing I now understand how one of the images I submitted got incredibly misplaced (should have been mh19##, wound up in fmc##), since I'd been considering sending one for another game and must have forgotten to change the header.

I suspect that's what's happened when you get obviously female people in the male galleries and vice versa. Things would go faster with more volunteers, but vetting them for that level of power takes time...time that could be spent improving the tag system...so...
callen
 member, 46 posts
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 14:03
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Also, if I'm not mistaken, they're hosted in different places. So it's not quite so simple as that since a search of such tags would stay within a single site.
praguepride
 member, 1374 posts
 "Hugs for the Hugs God!"
 - Warhammer Fluffy-K
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 23:28
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As someone who has tagged literally hundreds of portraits I'd say try the tags first. Don't get too specific but gender + race is a good start, or gender + hair color.

There are a LOT of portraits scattered around so you'll probably get a couple of pages to work with at least.

I've found that it's about a 40/60 spread about whether the tags have what I'm looking for.

The key is gender + one other item and go from there.