jase
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Tue 6 Feb 2018
at 09:53
Re: New Server
Will check it out, thanks.

http://new.rpol.net points to the new server now.  I think I've checked it's all working.  (c;  Be aware that it'll look very similar to here, it's a direct clone of a few days ago.  Don't get sucked in into forgetting you're on the test site!  If you post there it will not post here (and will eventually be lost).

This message was last edited by the user at 10:05, Tue 06 Feb.

horus
 member, 374 posts
 Wayfarer of the
 Western Wastes
Tue 6 Feb 2018
at 18:35
Re: New Server
I don't know from cheaper, but the Linux distribution I use runs a forum.  The server that hosts this is funded by a Gumroad subscription, and when the development team needs to fund a special need to support the distribution, they go to GoFundMe to set up donations.

I've never known them to have problems with either of those services.
jase
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Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 04:50
Re: New Server
jase:
http://new.rpol.net points to the new server now.

https://beta.rpol.net is also on the new server.  This has a shiny new SSL certificate as well (new.rpol.net doesn't, and won't until we fully migrate).

I can see people have visited the new site, feedback would be appreciated!
MalaeDezeld
 member, 49 posts
Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 06:18
Re: New Server
Well, most of the things work correctly and take similar time to generate.

It feel like there is at least 2 databases that are feeding new.rpol.net because of all those things:
  • When I created a new game, the game was already populated, including private messages, but not characters. My 3rd created game was empty as usual.
  • The number of posts isn't the same as between the main page and game.cgi page. The cast page show the same number of post as main. For example, for the forum General RPoL, the main page is showing 44157 post while the last post is the one from horus just before yours (so the count should be 44198 like it was on rpol.net)
  • Sometime, reading a thread did not update the game status in the main page.
  • I couldn't add a specific game (another one worked correctly) in "Games You Play In & Peruse" by reading a thread, I had needed to use the "Mark all as Read" before it showed up.


Logging out do not work. And the thread in which I added a post now show up with the unread icon.

I can't test receiving a rmail by myself, but sending one was correct.

Portraits not in cache do not work (I know that this isn't link to the new server just the url being different).

This message was last edited by the user at 06:19, Fri 09 Feb.

jase
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Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 14:45
Re: New Server
Thanks MalaeDezeld.  Those game/thread oddities will be because the files and database from here were copied over separately so aren't in sync (to be in sync I'd have to pause everything here for 30 minutes, which I obviously don't want to do).  Logout issue would have been cos you were still logged in here and it would inherit that cookie.

Besides the expected weirdness it sounds all ok, though I was hoping it'd be faster!  (c;
MalaeDezeld
 member, 50 posts
Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 15:54
Re: New Server
Oh! So everything is working as expected :D I retest the logout without being login in here and it worked :)

I got a case where the new server is/seems slower (hand-testing multiple time, and using the generated time to compare). When showing all the messages in a big thread, like the "NOTHING but VENTS" one (822 messages), the old server estimate average would be about 2 seconds, with the fastest I saw was 1.7 seconds while the new server average would be closer to 3 seconds, and the fastest never under 2 seconds.

Old server: link to a message in another game

New server: link to a message in another game

And the more I try, the more it feel like the new server is slightly slower than the new. The main page clock at about .008 (with minimum of .006) on the old versus .010 (with minimum of .007) on the new server.
donsr
 member, 1245 posts
Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 15:59
Re: New Server
  with my knowledge  very..very limited in this aspect, i can  still speak as a User.

  The bottom line, is we'll have a  brand new server. a bit 'slower' doesn't mean much. even a fullsecond?.. you can't  type your  name in a second?

 As long  was everything migrates over, and we don't lose  anyone?  I'm  happy!
MalaeDezeld
 member, 51 posts
Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 16:14
Re: New Server
I was speaking with my testing hat on :)
donsr
 member, 1249 posts
Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 16:16
Re: New Server
::chuckles:: at elast you know what your  doing.. My testing  hat is  tinfoil with a propeller on top!
jase
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Sat 10 Feb 2018
at 12:40
Re: New Server
Yeah... the new server is down.  Have been looking into the performance issues and I noticed it was booting an old kernel.  Rebooted and it hasn't come back.  Will update this message when it's back.

Server is back up, was about 12 hours ago but was asleep (and then looking after my real baby).

This message was last edited by the user at 04:52, Sun 11 Feb.

evileeyore
 member, 66 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Sat 10 Feb 2018
at 19:18
Re: New Server
donsr:
::chuckles:: at elast you know what your  doing.. My testing  hat is  tinfoil with a propeller on top!

The propeller helps scatter the Orbital Mind Control Laser's rays...
Boneio
 member, 127 posts
 Not dog food
Thu 22 Feb 2018
at 11:09
Re: New Server
I'm slightly (pleasantly) surprised the site is currently running on only 3gb of RAM, and that the database is only 14gb!
jase
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Sat 17 Mar 2018
at 02:13
Re: New Server
Howdy all.  A quick update to let you know that the proposed move has not gone ahead due to poor and unreliable performance of the new host.  I've tried to work with them to get it resolved for over a month now but I've decided enough is enough as they don't seem to be able to help (or really acknowledge there's a problem).  I've asked the account closed and I'm looking at an alternate vendor now.  You will find that the beta site will stop working once they cancel the server (until I get the new one going).
horus
 member, 431 posts
 Wayfarer of the
 Western Wastes
Sat 17 Mar 2018
at 03:33
Re: New Server
In reply to jase (msg # 48):

Sorry to hear of these setbacks. Is there any pressing need that would help move things forward if it were met?  (In short, is there anything RPoL members can do to help?)
jase
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Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 04:35
Re: New Server
Our second go at a new server is operational, located at http://new.rpol.net.  Much better server at roughly the same price as the one we didn't go to, which is obviously nice.  I'm also finding it's faster than this server.

As before be aware that it'll look very similar to here, it's a direct clone from this site including all your games and recent posts.  Don't get sucked in into forgetting you're on the test site!  If you post there it will not post here and will eventually be lost.  The front page will constantly warn you.

For those who want to know what we're moving it, it's the "Slice 8192" from https://buyvm.net/kvm-dedicated-server-slices.  The benefit of virtualisation is that if we ever want more resources we can just move up to the next slice.

P.S.  Belatedly, no thanks horus.  (c;  Was just a case of finding a better provider and then waiting (quite a while) for stock to be available.
Skald
 moderator, 819 posts
 Whatever it is,
 I'm against it
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 04:51
Re: New Server
I'm currently getting a timeout in Firefox and 'can't reach this server' in Edge, trying to access the new server.  :<
nauthiz
 member, 574 posts
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 05:44
Re: New Server
Same, and various website status checkers can't reach it either.
Skald
 moderator, 820 posts
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 I'm against it
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 05:50
Re: New Server
Probably just needs guest permissions updating.  :>
jase
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Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 06:54
Re: New Server
Ha, whoops, must have left the firewall too restrictive.  Will fix shortly.  Thanks for trying so quickly!
jase
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Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 08:04
Re: New Server
Ok, try again now.  Was so secure only I had access!  (c;  Thanks again for checking it out!
nauthiz
 member, 575 posts
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 09:27
Re: New Server

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Skald
 moderator, 821 posts
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Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 14:23
Re: New Server
Excellent - working now and about 50/66% faster  based on the "generated in" times I'm getting. :>
Genghis the Hutt
 member, 2536 posts
 Just an average guy :)
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 15:12
Re: New Server
donsr:
you can't  type your  name in a second?!

I type over a hundred words a minute on desktop. And my name is short. I can definitely type it in under a minute.
donsr
 member, 1333 posts
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 16:16
Re: New Server
yeah..i'm not even close...
MalaeDezeld
 member, 76 posts
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 04:17
Re: New Server
Skald:
Excellent - working now and about 50/66% faster  based on the "generated in" times I'm getting. :>


Got the same result over here :)