Yeah, you know what this is...

It looks like several of us may be at least slightly undecided on exactly where we want to go with characters for this thing.

Do we want to try to stick to a single type of magic psi or tech characters, or spread out between the categories and see if that generates some interesting conflicts?

I'd like to try a techno-wizard, I've mostly played "men-at-arms" O.C.C.'s and figured why the heck not.

My problem is that i have so many character ideas.  One of the most fun IRL Rifts games I played, it was as a gung-ho, guts'n'glory True Atlantean Undead Slayer.  On here, I played him, as well as a Gargoyle Psynetic Crazy (Mindwerks world book).  The Gargoyle had a +20 vs Horror Factor thanks to brain damage from implants, and he met this Native American Demigoddess with an Awe Factor of 18.  Only had to roll a 2, but got a natural 1.  GM decided the Gargoyle fell in love with her.LOL. 20' tall, 1 ton lovesick demonic puppy.
Yeah.  I have so many ideas begging to be created and played.

*waves*

I'm thinking of a more man-at-arms focus as I normally play psi or operator types characters. Current concept in front of the GM is a Elven Robo-Jock

I'm thinking about something along the lines of a Crazy, or maybe a transplant from Heroes Unlimited or Ninjas & Superspies.

In reply to Player 1 (msg # 5):

I can be your fixer. :)

So we have an elf in a bot, a techno wizard noob, something crazy, and I was thinking a cyborg mercenary which splits the difference between the crazy and the bot, so we end up with a mostly tech focused group with an 'odd' mechanic?

works for me I did pick up robotics and bioware as my initial skills idea.

I'm aiming to make the game fit to the characters rather than vice versa.  If there is something you like playing and has been a problem in the past because Palladium, talk to me.  The one that immediately comes to mind is magic.  You can't pull out the good stuff  in combat because so many of those spells require too many attacks to be worthwhile.  I know how wonky this system can be.  I'll try and tweak a few things here and there to make sure it runs smoothly.  Combat works great when it's even pairs.  That almost never happens, though.  Combatants don't wait on the sidelines to get tagged in.  It's usually a messy free for all.

I had another thought that you guys might be interested in.  Want to power up this bitch?  I was thinking it might be fun to max out all rolls at 1st level.  Not stats.

If you want to run a Rifts game in a system that makes sense than it is probably a better idea to use the Savage Worlds version of Rifts, other than that it is going to be messy no matter what happens.

Hello everyone!

I am currently thinking of trying out a Dragon Hatchling who will be looking to travel with you guys and learn from you as young dragons tend to do.  Skills I am going to try to aim them in the direction of a Wilderness Scout.  Even travel around in human form with some acquired human gear to try to look the part too.

In my old campaign (actual in person table top many years ago) I never got a chance to play a dragon and wanted to try it out.  I understand most of you are more tech based and frankly that would be a reason for my dragon to want to travel with you anyway.

I guess I could also just show up as a cat that inexplicably follows you around too and occasionally breathes fire, but figured the human form might be easier to interact with everyone else.

I of course do not want to cause any problems so I will ask, are there any protests to this?

It makes enough sense for me.  I just have some minor issues.  I've played Palladium for almost 20 years.  It's all about keeping things organized to suit my level of sanity.

Yeah I'm in!

I'm considering either playing some sort of psi character of a man-of-arms type like a headhunter of a PA pilot type.

I'll just have to dig out my books once I get home.

Cool with maxing this out, though stats is clearly where that would be most insane ;)

Cool with a Hatchling, though I would err on the side of a comfortable human form as the one's I've seen go sideways have been all about the kookiness

Maxed out stats would be a bit much.  I'm thinking things like max HP, SDC, ISP, and PPE.

Aye, it would certainly be Gonzo Post-Apocalyptic :)

Hi all. I was leaning towards a tattooed man.

I have no issues with anyone's character, as several have mentioned its rifts and there is little balance in the game. :) doing max on the random rolls after stats is cool, I would ask if we could try for a re-roll ones on stats my first three rolls put half or more of my stats at an 11 or less, some way less.

Having played a hatchling dragon myself more than a few times I have no problem with it, the GM suggested we not play 'monster' characters but with the ability to disguise yourself as a human you may be able to get around that restriction in a way something like a Gargoyle crazy could not.

Any thought on Level, GM?

I assume if we are planning to even try to balance tech and magic we are looking at somewhere in the 5-8th level range but we may also want to seriously consider either XP based level or even better a dynamic level in which more powerful character types start (and stay) at a lower level.

Trying to summarize what we have mentioned as classes just to have a better overview:

Player 1 : Elven Robo-Jock
Player 2 : Borg merc
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 : Dragon hatchling
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7
Player 8 : Psi or man at arms
Player 9
Player 10
Player 11
Player 12
Player 13

Hey, player 8.  Why not try a Headhunter with psi-implants from Psyscape?  That would make for an unusual tech-based merc.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:46, Fri 28 July 2017.

I will probably switch to something with less overlap in function than what others are playing, Feel free to take a heavy man at arms type if you want it was just the thing that seemed to fit the early discussion.

I certainly haven't decided yet. I just made the list to get a better idea what the rest of you wanted. And I assumed that a few might like that list as well ;)

I was thinking one of the following:
Super Powered City Rat looking for adventure
Super Powered Operator
Some kind of non-human Shifter
Some kind of non-human Ley Line Walker

That might be an idea. Another I¨m thinking of is making a Psi-tech with partial conversion. The loss in ISP will suck but I really love the idea ;)

I was also planning on being a full conversion anti vamp borg. However I don't want to steal player 2's thunder

Don't worry about me, even if I went with a borg I would bring plenty of unique thunder, but do feel free to 'take' the slot as I won't likely be using it in a group this big.

In reply to player 2 (msg # 30):

Cool! Thanks.

:)

I'm running some concepts by the GM to see which ones he likes best.  I always find a way to bring a unique twist to my characters, so doubling up isn't so bad.

I'm looking at running a hatchling.  I'm completely new to Rifts (just started reading up on it a few days ago) and I like magic-using characters, so the new-hatched dragon gives me an excuse to not be solid on the lore just yet.

Anyone interested in having a Hatchling following on their coattails and thinking they know everything about everything?

So.. I'm shaping up my Elven Robo-Jock in my head and flicking through sourcebooks. As you do, because, Siembieda. At the moment he's looking ex-military turned merc and I'm wondering if anyone would be interesting having a past connection with him, or even being part of the robot crew if I picked up a 'bot that needs a gunner or a comms officer?

Likewise, with where everyone else's choices are heading I'm wondering whether to slip down to power armour so I'm less a railgun magnet... or whether I should be heading for a particular subset of robots if I stayed there?

Any thoughts?

@10, I'm happy to shepherd a hatchling though won't pretend to know much about magic IC

In reply to Player 1 (msg # 34):

as I said, I can be part of your 'new' pit crew, I also have most of the skills to be part of your crew.

*Bares teeth and growls at Player 10.*

Just kidding, glad to have you along Player 10!

But be warned the book says dragons typically don't get on well together when they get older.  Especially males.

Cool, I'll put effort into making my hatchling not a pain in the arse and aim for being helpful...ish.   LOL


By the die roller I would be starting at 5 days old, and will be 80% of full size in about 8 weeks.  Oh boy Dragon Hatchling going through his growth spurt!  :D

That is, unless the GM wants me to go with max age for starting.

Otherwise, I will start on the making of the character.

In reply to player 4 (msg # 35):

Shiny, it would tie up nicely with the techno-biased Elf having someone explain magic stuff to him as well :)

AH!  Loophole!  Hey Player 10, what species are you looking at?

Was reading some more and it seems we could learn to be friends if we are different species.

I was looking at Flame Wind dragon, but I could go with Cat's Eye dragon instead if that helps.  :D

I'm looking at Royal Frilled for the starting magic ability and longer metamorphosis.  Even as same species as hatchlings we'd be okay.  Also, I will probably go female and with our ages/types/sexes we'll probably be peachy-keen.  (Unless you're wanting to RP some friction to start then I'd be up for running male.)

Friction is fine with me.  You play whatever sex you want.

Got some unexpected errands that came up so I may be offline for a while.  Be back later!

Now that my internet has stabilized again, hi!

So I'm currently looking at a Cyber-Doc, especially after seeing that several of y'all are going borg.  Let's do this thing!  I can patch you up; you can keep the monsters and Dead Boys off of me!

Player 1 : Elven Robo-Jock
Player 2 : Borg merc
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 : Dragon hatchling
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7
Player 8 : Psi or man at arms
Player 9
Player 10: Dragon Hatchling
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage
Player 12
Player 13

In reply to player 9 (msg # 41):

now you are my friend, and no I don't want cyber replacements.

Player 1 : Elven Robo-Jock
Player 2 : Borg merc (Huge maybe?)
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 : Dragon hatchling
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7
Player 8 : Psi or man at arms
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Dragon Hatchling
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13

@Player 11: Thanks for sorting out my mistake ;)

I´m still not decided yet. It all comes down to power level/equipment I guess.

No?  Awww... I think you'd look cool with a shiny new arm!

Regarding level, the thing most people don't realize is that Palladium is not like most other RPGs.  Your first level character is already a veteran.
To change OCC, you must be ready to level up to at least second.  You take the powers/abilities of the new OCC and the OCC skills, but NO bonuses.  You have to earn enough experience to make it to second level for "simple" OCCs, or third level for "complex" OCCs.  Then you become FIRST level with ALL OCC and Related skills, powers/abilities, and bonuses.  So, your basic fist level character starting out already has had enough experience to be second or third level just to get to that first level.  You can have a pretty rich back story.

lol the rules for changing OCC is like most other paladium rules: Tedious, confusing and without much sense ;) As someone who have played Rifts since I got my dirty hands on the first book back in '91 I really advice against them.

On stats: Too bad they aren't maxed :D  I'm going to be so wimpy next to dragons, superhumans, tattooed men and crazies :D

My new best friend!

HUGS!!!

Oooh...giant robot arms. Riiiiight. No hugs.

:(

You can be the one using my anti-vamp mind control computer program I turn on when the undead show up.

That works.

So, I have a basic backstory:

Once upon a time, a promising CS med student.  Fell from grace, largely from interpersonal politics and being a bit too easy-going on the issue of nonhumans.  Washed out, nothing left, wound up drinking in a dive bar and being drunk enough to stand up to bad-news criminals with bionic parts, and tell them what they need to get fixed.  Wound up getting a job fixing up injuries and adding new parts to folks illegally, and now somehow caught up in whatever this mess is.

It's not hard to get caught up in things in games.

Should I just... y'know... get on with the dice-rolling part?

What's your MA going to be? You might be able to make a really strong contribution as party "Face". The rest of us aren't going to be too hot in the interaction department, especially in Coalition territory. (I can just see the dragons agreeing to sell a glitterboy suit for a box full of beads).

Scratch that idea. Just read up on the rules. It's not just ISP that gets halved. Everything else is halved as well ;)


According to the rolls: 12 or 9 or 15 - nothing stellar. The dragons will beat me at any chance :D

But don't mistake me. I really don't mind playing the one with the lowest stats. My first ever Rifts character I just rolled eight stats - none of us knew the game system. I ended up with Crazy being more or less the only character I could play with those stats. My crazy was ... well crazy and ended up dead very shortly afterwards.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:07, Fri 28 July 2017.

Looks like my stats hit "Good enough, if not great."  I'd hoped for the option for more bonuses, but at least I can take enough to not be completely sidelined and helpless in a fight.

Which is good, because this looks like a fight-y crew.

Hey now they were REALLY nice beads. :P

And they will *really* go nice in my lair.  So you may never see them again.  ;)

I'm trying to come to grips with skills.

If a skill is untrained is it unusable at all?  Or just gets assigned a reasonable % by the GM?  (For example if my dragon was kept from flying by sever down draft or having his wings cut off, and was fleeing a horde of somethings for some reason (or even a normal athletic  human)  an came to a cliff, could he climb up without the climb skill?)

Also, in combat do "non combat melee actions" include spells (or just non-offensive spells?) for those not trained in hand-to-hand, or should pretty much every caster take basic hand-to-hand?

My character's coming along nicely; I think I'll roll for random psi.  Why not?  Worst comes to worst, I get nothing.

EDIT:  Can't read.  Yep, no psi.  Oh, well.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:04, Fri 28 July 2017.

Hey, everyone. So, I'm not sure I'm actually joining this game. Thirteen players is a freaking ton, and usually a lot more than I really dig? I'm still trying to make up my mind about what I want to do.

I will say I was considering putting together a symbiote Juicer (which I think are from Atlantis but may actually be JU). But then again, looking at the roster someone above was kind enough to put together, things are pretty murder-focused. A more skill-based character might be on the docket.

Mostly, as far as I can tell, a GM call might let you try an untrained skill, but the general philosophy is "No."  Climbing a cliff is highly unlikely without the skill unless it's a really easy cliff; that's one reason skills like Gymnastics, which gives you at least a tiny amount of Climb and Prowl, are popular.

Everyone should take at least Basic HTH.  As a rule, it's one attack=one action; the rules explicitly state that Lv 1-5 Invocations can be fired off in one Melee Action, and it looks like our GM is letting casters take that further.

So take at least Basic.  And maybe Boxing.  Because Palladium looooooooooves Boxing.

So I think I'm done?  But I want to confirm that "All max rolls for bonuses or something" bit clearly and cleanly.  (I rolled for everything, to play it safe, but if I can get the bigger bonuses, that would be nice.)

Also, when we're done, should we be posting character sheets publicly?  PMing them?

I got the stats done, working on skills now, Hey GM, is Hand to Hand: Dragon acceptable?

Well, as a Hatchling I get Magic knowledge, literacy, math, 2 secondary skills, and one 'specialty skill'... taking my two secondaries to boost my number of attacks would pretty much make my character a murder hobo.  Which, if it's setting (and group) appropriate, I'm willing to do, but I was thinking of having at least 1 actual skill to complement being magical and pretty.

You also get HTH Expert if you don't get HTH Dragon, it looks like.  Add in all those Dragon bonuses and you're in pretty good shape for combat.  But yeah, Dragons get all these huge stat bonuses and powers in exchange for a lack of skills.

Other than the Dragon, do we have anybody going the Magic route?

Tattooed Man is on the list, and maybe you.

We have two possible mages as well and I may end up doing something more psi or magic than tech that depends on how a few questions to the GM and or the trend of other characters go.  I can easily avoid both form and function conflicts but I need to know what to avoid.

Tattooed man may have some neat tricks, I am a big fan of magic tattoos, but that a mage does not make. Need a character that can learn spells, IMO, not just gain them on level.

If you want to see a killing machine put Super Human Agility, Fighting Spirit, and Magical Adrenal Rush on our Dragon Hatchling or Borgs :-)

Well, bear in mind that the more y'all borg out, the more I've got to do in the game.  I think my character won't be totally useless in a fight, but ultimately, I'm a Scholar And Adventurer, not a mainline fighter.

Every group needs some support characters, men-o-war, and specialists. Just make sure you take WP Energy Rifle and you can get in on combat from range in relatively light armor (or pilot a PA, APC, etc). Nobody is suggesting you should wade into a platoon of skelebots with the dragon ;-)

Good lord, no.  Nope, I'm doing the Rifle For Sniping and decent armor thing to contribute, but I'll be staying way and the hell back.  I do have a bonus-worthy PP and a chunk of Physical skills to help out, though.

Physical skills make a huge difference.

There are two dragons so we got yer back!  Until something shiny comes up. LOL

As it looks like I may be the main mage, if there are spells/psionics you'd recommend or would like included in my load-out, let me know.  Currently I've chosen none of my spells and have 3 each in levels 1+2, and have 7 more psionic powers and 2 super-powers to add to the following I was already planning on:

Alter Aura
Healing Touch
Mask ISP & Psionics
Mask PPE
Meditate


Also: where do you see hand to hand expert coming from, and what is hand to hand dragon?   (Found the last part - literacy for the win.)
This message was last edited by the player at 00:49, Sat 29 July 2017.

Before we get to far into the details of our characters have any of you decided on a text format for the sheet itself, one you like from other games, or just something off a list somewhere?

Palladium sheets are complicated; Rifts sheets can be extra-complicated.  I mostly just write stuff down as it's needed in Wordpad.

I am wondering what kind of downtime we are going to get in this campaign. Plenty of downtime is good for many magic users (specially that TW). Starting level would be very helpful in making decisions. I am just not interested in playing a lv1 LLW with 12 spells of lv1-4 :-(

Not sure if the GM approves of course, but so far I made this up for my character as I am making them:

Name:  _____
Alignment: _____   |  Species: ______ [pg # in which book]
OCC/RCC:  __________
Height:   ___ Feet    |  Weight: ____lbs
Appearance:

CHARACTER STATISTICS:
IQ __ (+__% to skills)
ME __ (+__ save vs psionic/insanity)
MA __ (__Trust/Intimidate)
PS __  (+___ dmg )     [____lbs carry, _____Max lift]
PP __ (+__ parry/dodge/strike)
PE __ (+__% coma death save/+___ magic/poison)
PB __ (__% Charm/Impress)
SPD ___ [___mph]
Horror Factor: __
Hit Points:  ______
SDC/MDC:  _______

COMBAT:     Hand to Hand _______ [pg # in book]
__ attacks/melee
+__ to strike  |   + __parry   |  +__ dodge
+__ initiative  |  +__ Pull Punch  |  +__ roll with impact
+__ save v horror factor | +__ save v poison
+__ save v magic and illusions  | +__% save v Coma/Death
+__ save v psionic/ insanity

NATURAL ABILITIES:

MAGIC:   ___PPE [+__/level]

Spell Name [pg # in book]  |  Spell Name [pg # in book]

PSIONICS:    __ ISP  [+__/level]
Power Name [pg # in book] |  Power Name  [pg  # in book]

OOC/RCC Skills:
Skill __% [+__%/level]    |   Skill __% [+__%/level]

OOC/RCC RELATED SKILLS:
Skill __% [+__%/level]    |   Skill __% [+__%/level]

SECONDARY SKILLS:
Skill __% [+__%/level]   |  Skill __% [+__%/level]



WEAPON PROFICIENCIES:
WP__________  |   WP__________


BODY ARMOR:
Armor Name [pg #in book]
Weight—___lbs  |  ___ mobility with a  +/-___% movement penalty
Helmet—___ MDC  |  Main Body—___ MDC  |  Arms—__ each  |  Legs—__ each

WEAPONS:
Weapon Name  [pg #in book]
Weight:___ lbs  | SD/MD: ___
Range—___ft  |  Payload _______ shots  | Extra Ammo—______ E-clips

OTHER GEAR:



MONEY: _____ CREDITS  | _____BLACK MARKET CREDITS
OTHER VALUABLES:  _________


BACKGROUND:

---

EDITED to add armor and weapons sections.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:23, Sat 29 July 2017.

So, a lot to go through here.  I'll try and answer every question.  If I miss something, just as again.  Please don't ever be afraid to ask me about anything.  My ego is not at stake here.  If you walk off the game because you feel I am not addressing your issues and you haven't brought them up to me, that's on you.  So far everyone looks like a mature adult so I probably don't have to worry, but I do my best to treat everyone with respect and expect the same back.  Coming at me like a drunken frat boy will not go over well.

1. I know this is a lot of players and I will be working on ways to minimize the drag on the game this causes.  I already have an idea for two separate starts.  If you ant to be paired off with anyone, let me know right away.  Shared backgrounds are an awesome thing and I do not want to mess that up.

2. Perceived OCC/RCC weaknesses:  If you think you're at a severe disadvantage compared to everyone else, talk to me.  We can take a look and figure something out.  Throw some ideas at me if you have any.  I want you to have fun and enjoy the game.  Otherwise what's the point?  Let's start with the Ley Line Walker.  What ar you missing?

3. Give me a name or codename you want to change 'player #' to.

4.  Max out SDC, HP, ISP, PPE.  If you have a bonus stat roll, re-roll 1 once.

5.  Untrained skills.  Depending on the skill, there should be a chance to try something.  If I throw you in the water, you're not going to die because you can't swim.  There will be a chance for you to figure it out and survive.  It will be situational, but know that I won't punish a player for not being able to cover all the bases.  There should be someone in the group somewhere that can cover your back if you're lacking.  It's a team game.

6.  Speaking of team game, strife with the group can make for entertaining roleplay.  Don't take it personally.  If you feel someone is over the top, say something.  Don't let resentment build up.  They probably don't realize that they are creating a problem.

7.  Dragon HtH is cool.

8.  Downtime.  My adventures are usually like action movies.  Characters are typically always on the move.  Depending on what you're looking to do, there may be time for it.  Mostly those kinds of things happen between adventures.  I'll run this thing until they seal my coffin if there are still players with me.

9.  Character sheets:  Yeah, I think people mostly type them out as they go.  As long as it is organized, I'm happy.  I don't think they are complicated, just full of information.  Keep them up to date.  I don't care if you keep multiple copies, print them out and hand them out to all the neighbors, if it's not on the sheet here, it doesn't exist.

That sheet is great.  Thanks.

10.  If there is something you want approved or have a question about, at least include a book and page number.  There are a lot of damn books.

11.  Experience:  You guys deserve xp for your actions.  We do it all for the xp!  I will post xp when it is earned in the post.  I try to be free with xp so you can level up.  Who doesn't want to level up?  That being said, track your own xp.  Tell me whn you level and what you are adding to your sheet.  I will not send you a personal invitation to level up.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:25, Sat 29 July 2017.

You can set the diceroller for Rifts if you are rolling stats based on 2d6 or 3d6.  It will automatically roll a bonus d6 if you get a 12 on 2d6, or a 16+ on 3d6.

Here's a char sheet from another game I'm in:

==================================================================================
NAME       :                                       NATIVE LANG  :
TRUE NAME  :                                       INSANITY     : None
RACE       :                                       INSANITY     : None
OCCUPATION :                                       EXPERIENCE   : 0000
O.O.C.     :                                       NEXT LEVEL   :
LEVEL      : 1st                                   ALIGNMENT    :
AGE        :                                       LIFE SPAN    :
==================================================================================
I.Q.       :                                       SEX          :
M.E.       :                                       WEIGHT       : lbs
M.A.       :                                       HEIGHT       : '"
P.S.       :                                       Run          :  Yards/Min
P.P.       :                                       Run Melee    :  Yards/15 Sec
P.E.       :                                       Swim         :  Yards/Min
P.B.       :                                       Swim Melee   :  Yards/15 Sec
SPD.       :                                       Hand to Hand :
==================================================================================
Hand to Hand Combat      |                       | Roundhouse Kick : ?d?+   SDC |
Type          :          | Roll w/ Punch    : +  | Axe Kick        : ?d?+   SDC |
Attacks       :          | Roll w/ Impact   : +  | Knee Strike     : ?d?+   SDC |
Initiative    : +        | Roll w/ Fall     : +  | Leap Kick       : ?d?+   SDC |
Damage        : +  SDC   | Knockout         : +0 | Punch           : ?d?+   SDC |
Strike        : +        | Deathblow        : +0 | Power Punch     : ?d?+   SDC |
Aimed Strikes : +        | Critical         : 20 | Body Flip       : ?d?+   SDC |
Parry         : +        | Disarm           : +  | Body Throw      : ?d?+   SDC |
Dodge         : +        |                       |                              |
==================================================================================
WEAPON NAME                              | WEAPON NAME
   Initiative   : +                      |   Initiative   : +
   Strike Bonus : +  / +  Aimed          |   Strike Bonus : +
   Damage       :                        |   Damage       :
==================================================================================
SAVE VS. CURSES             : 15         |    SAVE VS. INSANITY        : 12
SAVE VS. DISEASE            : 14         |    SAVE VS. MAGIC           : 12
SAVE VS. LETHAL POISON      : 14         |    SAVE VS. RITUAL MAGIC    : 16
SAVE VS. NON-LETHAL POISON  : 16         |    SAVE VS. PSIONICS        : 15
SAVE VS. HARMFUL DRUGS      : 15         |    SAVE VS. MIND CONTROL    : 14
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MONEY
SALARY     :
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 - Gems    :
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Wow, that is a really nice character sheet.

That is indeed one of the nice formats, a little jumbled because it is designed to go into the other style of text field but it shakes out well when not in a standard thread post.

Also for those of you still building a list put me down as a Human Mind Melter who has run afoul of the CS more than once, she has also suffered at least one permanent disfigurement from it so she will not likely be to friendly with them.

could we get the character sheets unlocked?

Um?

Ok, think I got it.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:08, Sat 29 July 2017.

OK. I am just going to bite the bullet and go with a Shifter. However, I am thinking a True Atlantean will be a good alternate to the dozens of races I have been looking up. I would be happy to have a back story with our other Dragon (or both) and anybody else that wants one. The character will be from Alexandria in the Anvil Galaxy of the 3 Galaxies. He is exploring the lost homework.

Player 12, going anti-vamp borg could likely have common interests as would player 6. My guy could have even helped player 6 escape from enslavement?

In reply to player 11 (msg # 85):

Sounds good to me! I am looking for someone I can trust who is mind control resistant to activate and deactivate my slave borg implant when needed.

so for those more in the know, looking for a vehicle I can use as a carrier for player 1's robot, any idea where to look prefer ground/hover

*waves*  How resistant do you need?  The cyberdoc here has bonuses to save, and knows how to take care of those things...

In reply to Man in Black (msg # 84):

not for me :)

In reply to player 9 (msg # 88):

Ah nice! I actually had a plan to get around the whole vampire mind control thing. Using already existing tech-the slave borg Implants.

Criminals use this by forcing people to undergo full conversion borg sugary, and then fit them with the implant to take control of their mechanical bodies.

Vampires can control people's minds, but can't normally take control of machines via their powers. Thus the biggest weakness borgs have against the undead.

My character underwent full conversion to combat borg status, but added in a computer program he designed to use one of these slave borg implants. In effect, he would choose someone else as a primary user. They would activate the slave borg implants via a code phrase,  and deactivate it as needed.

While under the effects of the implant, my character's could only run Pre-written programs-like kill all vampires for example. He also would loose the ability to speak. Mostly because the vampires would be able to force him to communicate with them. Then be could activate his own save borg implant, forcing him to run a combat program, and hopefully the assigned user could free him with the code phrase.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:22, Sat 29 July 2017.

@P11: I'm gonna go atlantean undead hunter rather an escaped slave. Probably even more reason to combined back story.

Hello, all. I am the lucky number, but I have yet to ride a barrel.

Player 1 : Elven Robo-Jock
Player 2 : Borg merc (Huge maybe?)
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 : Dragon hatchling
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7
Player 8 : Psi or man at arms
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Dragon Hatchling
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14 (This Guy): Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

Guess I'm the only ex-Coalition aside from the Cyber Doc...if I can land the statline for it.

We begin!
Statline #1: 10, 6, 10, 10, 12, 7, 5, 11
Statline #2: 12, 9, 10, 11, 10, 15, 9, 6
Statline #3: 11, 5, 9, 10, 10, 14, 7, 9

This may quite possibly be the lowest statlines I have ever gotten. One would think after three rolls, I would stop getting three single digit stats. Statline #2 is the only one that could get me into the job, and that's only if I can adjust the numbers to the stat.

If you are going to keep reposting the list you should update me to a Human Mind Melter

We do get to arrange the numbers, yeah.  Statline 2 looks like it can get you that job, at least.

I plan on playing a character who is in trouble with the CS (or thinks he is), so I can backstory with anyone from that area.

In reply to player 6 (msg # 91):

Cool! Maybe we have worked together then?

That's my plan as well.

So, with the GM saying he's going to be splitting the party into multiple groups at start, that solves a lot of my concerns about huge games. Whew, hooray. However, that does leave me with a new question: What on earth do I want to play? My original hankering was for a Hatchling, but there are already two of those which is already like a stress test for maximum goofiness. I also don't think that either of the groups need additional murder power, which kind of ticks off my normal go-to of various sorts of Juicers.

So I guess I'll offer it out to the group: What do you not see much of in the currently proposed characters? Are there any holes that need filling, or any roles in your PC's background that could use smoothing. I see several CS refugees/escapees, maybe there's something in that...

Split the difference: CS Juicer.

@rodrigo: have you checked out anti-monster from south america #1? Very anti-vampire borgish

Neither World Book 6 nor 9 appear on the character creation list, either by geography or complexity the Anti-Monster seems like an unlikely character to be viable for play.

Anyhow, Character Sheet prototype is in the PM section for the DMs viewing pleasure.

Rod is an Intel/Counter-Intel Specialist (not to be confused with a spy), with a bit of a side in mechanized assault. This may quite possibly be one of the worst combative characters I have ever made; they normally hit harder than this!

Hey, my character has a Superhuman stat that doesn't give him a fracking single extra bonus for being over 30....and an 8 PP :-P

Improved Invisibility for the Win!

Some days, it's all about the dice.  But sometimes, the right choices will still go a ways to help.

I ended up with a MA of 26 as my highest stat, not counting the 120 speed for flying.  If it weren't for the stat bonuses for my species I would be much, much lower of course.

But with that MA, People just trust me!

Or fear me.

Close enough.  LOL

Wish my Shifter had that 26 MA! Could summon anything and get away with it. 19 will have to do, but that is after Racial bonuses....just 1 point shy of the bonus die. The other three blocks of stats were WAY worse.

Anyways, feeling OK about the character, even if it starts at level 1.

Starting at Lv 1 is okay; it's just down to what we have to put up with.

...Of course, I'm in a decently front-loaded class.  I'm not likely to find a particularly better energy rifle or armor to hide in.  If I'm lucky, I'll get some cool bionics down the road, maybe.

Bear in mind, I'm a player who looks at the Cosmo-Knight and says "That's not actually as broken as its reputation suggests. Hard as balls to kill with damage, though. Hit him with Save-or-Die, or dig in for a nasty siege."

I've gotten too used to playing bastard hard characters. Maybe this will be a nice change of pace for me.

The problem with level is not any one class, it is that different classes are wildly different at 1st level, and again around 12th level it goes the other way with magic and psi picking up steam, ie 'save or die' features.

What we should do is target somewhere in the middle 5-7 where there is a trend to normalize.  If we want to actually use differing XP charts it becomes a little bit more reasonable in say the 40k XP range you start to see the power classes lag behind a level or two, and you start to see that even with its quirky stuff Palladium is at least trying to make things make sense.

That's fair, but for the tech classes, higher level should probably bring gear improvements, and that's kind of hard to work out during chargen.

No reason to work it out, if you have a skill for something the GM needs to give you in order to balance out with a dragon, they just do it.  If you can make informed decisions that are not ridiculous you can probably be of some assistance, but really on the GM sees all the factors.

True.  A good GM can get all of that set up, if they wish to.

To me, the imbalance of the game is one of its draws. I've always just gone with the madness wherever it takes me. Rifts always struck me as a low-key version of the Dark Heresy games before they were even a thing - WH40K, only slightly less insane and often more weird at the same time. Like WH40K, it demonstrates what kind of world needs to exist for the Coalition to become "good guys" to anyone.

Besides, if I wanted balance, I'd play 4E D&D.

Stat rolling question: If one is rolling non-human stats (eg. 3d6+6), do you still do the extra d6 if you get a 16+?

Generally you get the bonus if the DICE roll the 16+. After you check for bonus die, roll that if you get it, then you add the +(racial coolness) to get your final stat.

Another stat question: can they go past 30? or more specifically, the tables end at 30, right? Do the bonuses continue to progress past 30, or stop at 30?

In the RUE there are rules for past 30, it is a bit down past that. It does not matter for ME or Speed to go over 30. Strength has it's own special thing if it is Supernatural or Robotic Strength, in that it does not give a flat bonus to melee strike damage, but affords Mega Damage dice based on strength.

You get your Strength or Weapon damage when doing Mega Damage, not both, unless the weapon or super power specifically says so....

The rules in the RUE for attributes beyond 30 are slightly easier to use but not functionally different than the ones that have always been around in various books.

Aside from supernatural strength and some exceptionally high PB or MA you really just continue the math on the chart.

Except for the damage bonus from PS and the Save vs Coma/Death bonus from PE, typically, the usual stat-provided bonuses (eg, to Strike/Parry/Dodge or to Saves) top out at a Stat of 30 (+8). However, new bonuses come into play for such high level stats (eg, +1 Initiative per 5 points of PP over 30).

Unless someone can point me towards the contrary, I've never seen anything to suggest that anyone but humans get bonus rolls to stats.

If anyone is worried about particularly low stats, shoot me a pm with your stat line and we'll see if we can work something out.

For stats over 30, just use the rules in the RUE.

As a GM myself that is almost how I've played it. I've used the 3d6 as the only ability scores that get extra 1d6 at 16+ (even for non humans). But I have no reference to where I got that rule from. Could be conversion book 1.

Heheh, I've only on stat over 15!

(And not worried about it)

Ok, everyone should have sheet access now.

Stats aren't as important in Palladium as they are in other games, unless you're playing a hand-to-hand type.  There are other ways of pumping up defenses.

Anyone got a good line on rules for field repairs of armors and vehicles?  The skill descriptions are pretty vague.  I did find rules for paying for repairs.

In reply to Man in Black (msg # 123):



The Operator OCC can repair armor for 1200 credits/MDC.

There are rules for field repair in the bionics book p. 64-69.

In reply to player 8 (msg # 124):

The spell Mend the Broken from Book of Magic p. 108 also does the trick. Repairing 1 MDC for 30 PPE.

How does field Armorer,  general repair, and salvage help for fixing things?

Also, are we using the perception rules from Nightbane? If so, how does advanced sensors add to those sorta rolls?
This message was last edited by the player at 13:25, Sun 30 July 2017.

So those that get stuck with me I have
Computer Operation
Computer Programing
Computer Repair
Basic Electronics
Mechanical Engineer
Math: Basic
Electrical Engineer
Robot Electronics
Robot Mechanics
Bioware Mechanics
Math: Advanced

I still have skill slots to pickup so if we figure out how we want to do 'maintenance' I'll work on that as well.

When looking at switching O.C.C. where are the rules that tell you all the requirements? Was thinking if we start after 1st I'd start as an operator then switch to T.W.

I have... fire.

All of the fire.

And I am learning how to survive in the wilderness!

fire is good, there is a lot you can do with fire. :)

Edit: Nvm. I just can't read. Good work, Player 7.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:19, Sun 30 July 2017.

I'll be holding things together with Find Contraband, Cybernetic Medicine (taken twice for all your borgs out there), Medical Doctor, Field Surgery, Electrical Engineer and Appraise Goods because do you think everyone pays me in cash?

I can also buff borgs, btw.  Even more when I get resources and money, but I can give out SPD boosts and Range boosts without too much trouble.

And get wholesale prices on spare parts.

@Rodrigo: You're the anti-vamp borg right? I think some shared history would be good. As an undead slayer, I have a tat that makes me immune to vampire mind control, so I'd be a good candidate for your override code.

I can go with the handle Gabriella, then we can be Rod & Gab (who are an awesome guitar duo). And as semi-cheesy as it is, I kind of like the idea of posing as a traveling mariachi band, but I'm not super-attached to that.

I'm thinking I've been time-displaced, so I've missed much of the history between the fall of atlantis and current time. Maybe I've been on the scene for a year or so. I reappeared in the Southwest and was immediately dismayed at the state of the world and the fact that vamps had moved in. I started taking on vamps, and that's what led us to meet. This would conveniently fit with my player-knowledge as well - I'm pretty up on NA, not so much on the dimension books.

In reply to player 6 (msg # 132):

That sounds good to me. The way I see the slave borg device working is that I or you, or maybe my BFF the cyber doc as well can activate it, but only you and the cyber doc (maybe-all not immune to mind control so it would be risky) can restore my control with the programmed phrase.

I was a little worried about not keeping up with dragons and whatever other craziness. But the dice solved that. Major psionic, a speed of 99, and closing in on 350 SDC. I'm focusing a bit more on melee- as much as Rifts lets you customize like that- to make use of crazy high mobility and PS.

Alright, changed the name because we can't have two Rods running around.

I'm mostly done.

There are no rules as far as I remember for switching classes to anything other than cyborg/crazy/juicer kind of classes.

I'm quite sure you are not supposed to be able to switch into a magic using class after level 1.

But I might remember wrong - it have been known to happen ;)

---

On class: I haven't heard the GM's ruling on my character idea yet. So I can't say what kind of character I'll be playing. But it will most likely be someone in a huge robot/power armor to compensate for the total lack of ability score bonuses.

In reply to player 8 (msg # 136):

So there are rules, I found them online and they are not vary friendly so not going there.

If you want to join me and 'Player 1' he is a guy in a big bot too, and I'm working as his repair crew. :)

In reply to Scud (msg # 137):

Are they rules from one of the books? What book are they from?

I don't remember the source, found it on the palladium website.

In reply to Scud (msg # 139):

http://www.palladium-megaverse...om/oops/dualocc.html

But these rules are NOT in any of the books. The only rules for changing classes are the ones I mentioned above it seems.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:07, Sun 30 July 2017.

yep, that looks right

I'm not sure where I saw them, but newer rules allow for frozen skills to advance when previous level is reached.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:38, Mon 31 July 2017.

So who wants a backstory with "a retired war veteran?"

That brings up an interesting point.  Which war?

I had assumed from the selection of books we would be playing somewhere in the earlier segment of the Rifts timeline the PA 106 or so range in which the Siege on Tolkeen has not yet taken place, but we could just as easily be in the 109 era in which that was the most recent war.  Do we have a preference or plan already one way or the other?

This will be before the war on Tolkeen.  I have that book and may want to use it later.

OCC changes work much like old school AD&D.  I reccomend picking one and sticking with it.

Not sure if she'd have much to do with a retired vet, but my character (who will soon be Al) might be known at least by the CS military. She's a terrorist and rebel who was living the Burbs of Chi-Town, and is wanted for several high profile bombings of ISD facilities in the area.

In reply to Carl Petros (msg # 143):

Aye, that would work well for me

The current idea I have running past the GM is of a Vagabond whose family owned a decent hotel in the burbs.  However, some bad stuff went down, so did the hotel and a few blocks of buildings, and he is now on the run.

So looking to build more connections anyone take archeology? I'm planning on picking up salvage and thinking an archeologist might be a good friend to have.

I'm still waiting on a word back from the GM on my character. I'm really hoping to play a Psi Tech that have been shot up seriously and been put together as a partial cyborg.

Her psi will such but it will be fun :)

http://orig06.deviantart.net/a...d8b0a46d-d9m28bt.jpg

So who ended up a practitioner of magic?

In reply to Scud (msg # 151):

No one it seems.....

Should I make a ley line walker? I've never really played one.

Make what you would like to play, I was just looking for others I might be able to learn spells from. :)

LL Walker is one of the more straightforward and front-loaded casters. Twelve spells, one of them probably being Carpet of Broken Adhesion, and fighting them near a Ley Line...well, their NAME tells you how that's probably going to go. Just don't wear the full environmental stuff - messes up your casting.

Really just don't wear tech based armor, wear magic armor, force fields, that kind of thing.  There are plenty of good Line Walker armors out there, almost to many to pick from.

<---Shifter

I find that the vast majority if really useful spells start at 5th level. LLW gets to start with 3 spells from 1-4th each. Shifters on the other hand.... ;-)

I've been sorting through books and looking things up.  I have a long to-do list from everybody.  Part of the problem running Rifts.  So much material.  I'll have more time to sort through things tomorrow.

So I have been mulling this over, what if we do a big merc company? It would allow us all to play together and give the GM a focal point for us. I know some have talked about overlap, I think if we do a merc company we could team up depending on the needs of the mission in question then re-arrange for the next one. we would also be able to run several missions at the same time given the number of characters involved.

I am trying to get a vehicle for doing robot maintenance and the one I asked the GM about has billeting for 30 crew so we would have a mobile base of operation.

Just an idea, I don't think we all need to know each other perhaps second or third degree connections that led us all to join together.

If you can get one across the pond or find a local equivalent knockoff in Merctown the XM-170 always makes for an excellent Techo-Wizard or Operator moving garage.

The idea of being one big merc company is a good one, with two potential hurdles.  Someone has to volunteer to be the leader or at least outward facing point of contact for the group as a whole, and any exchange of people between missions/threads requires either some really good timing or a good bit of IC timeline flexibility based on OOC posting and play speed.

Neither of these are problems or insurmountable but things that make for long term puzzles best solved from the beginning.

In reply to player 2 (msg # 159):

That is actually the one I asked about, suitably degraded for a 1st lvl character

That's actually a good idea, if we can get our GM in on it. He's got the book that would detail that kind of madness.

Company size (how many NPCs we were willing to put up with and how big of a presence we are, for good or ill) and Sponsorship (who runs our company and tells us what to do) would be our first major choices if we went this route.

So, as a science, I came up with this (pg 9-19 Mercenaries):

Size:     Small Time Company    (4 pts left)
Sponsorship:    Independent (bonus 10 put into Crime, thinking of the Cyber-Doc)
Outfits:    Utility Outfits
Equipment:    Electronics Supplies and Good Gear
Vehicles:    Fleet Vehicles
Weapons/Robots/Power Armor:    Basic Weaponry
Communications:    Secured System
Internal Security:    Tight
Permanent Bases:    Partial Headquarters
Intelligence Resources:    Scout Detachment
Special Budget:    Nickels and Dimes
Personnel Alignment:    Anarchist and Unprincipled
Criminal Activity:    Cyber-Doc (in addition to the PC and likely interested in the same ideas)
Reputation:    Unknown (the pay sucks, but nobody hates us)
Salary:    Pittance Salary (the pay sucks, but it's steady!)

This is mostly to get the mental wheels moving. I don't have a name for our hypothetical group. The sponsorship could change if no one is willing to be the leader - Secret Sponsorship is always hilarious for answering that.

So purely for my on interests I say we go with - Salvage Crew ;)

One thing we will have to look at is connections as an example I have a personal background with Silver (player 1) and Carl and a lose connection with the Doc (I have been consulting him on my pet project.) so we need to make a network of connections.

As an undead hunter, anarchist and unprincipled guys looking to salvage tech stuff is going to be a tough fit. A more mundane t-man or monster t-man runaway slave would fit in a little better, and I'd be fine going that way.

I'm also not married to the t-man. If GM has the New West book, I could go psi-slinger or gunfighter. I could get pretty close to either one of those with a crazy or headhunter from the core book. I don't think I have the book with quick-flexes in it, but a quick-flex headhunter could be pretty gunslingery.

Actually, one never knows where salvage will end up. Vampires and such might be camped around it.

To be fair, we don't quite know WHERE we are going to yet. I was told the Magic Zone, which implies a certain region. On the other hand, we could end up anywhere, and I might never get a good use out of my skills under say, this "uncommon" circumstance:

"Okay, I've located their base, and-"
"LEEROYYYYYYYYYYYYYY JENKINS!"

To be fair, I usually live through it...

It's not too far off from how a lot of jobs go...

Love that Leroy Jenkins video... that'd be a good name for a Crazy actually... :-D

Yes an undead hunter could end up being relevant for a mission or two, but not likely to be a long running member of that kind of merc company. Maybe that suggests a different angle would be better anyway - even if this group isn't a merc company, it's not like they're going to want to really consistently stick it to undead or inhuman monsters.

Seriously, I don't mind changing in the least. All I've done is rolled stats and looked at the stock magic tattoos a little. Have not invested much in this character yet at all.

As the Juicer, I promise to do this in no more than 25% of missions.

Actually, Al has a pretty hardy suite of Espionage and Rogue skills for a Juicer. She's all about asymmetrical warfare stuff- I've been meaning to get a word with Carl about precisely this. They probably have some skill/tactics overlap, though she's obviously a little less 'cool and collected' than... Basically any person who is not a super-charged drug addict.

Actually, an Undead Slayer could actually be found in almost any group of heroes.  Even if they don't hunt vampires on a regular basis.  I have always seen heroic Slayers as knights errant, going anywhere help may be needed.

If you go with Undead Slayer (vs Hunter) that means the character is a True Atlantean and would easily know my Shifter. We could be from the same clan or planet, etc etc.

The Mercenary Company is not a bad idea, if you want to run it. I would be willing to be 'the leader' and the character does have a bonus in IQ, MA, PB. I would just need to know in advance to take a different skill set...

So my plan is to run you guys in the same campaign with different start points.  At some point everyone will become aware of the other group and even intermingle as needed.  Watching everyone come together to create a merc/adventuring outfit would be pretty cool.  I do have a few ideas for what may come after the initial adventure, though my focus is on getting this first one underway, so an established group would work out quite nicely.  I don't mind if players switch characters after a mission.  You can always come back to them if they're needed.  I do like to see leaders step up and take charge.  Having a good leader can make the difference in a game lasting.

(Former Player 8)

Finally settled on a psy tech that have been shot up and made into a partial conversion cyborg.

Victoria will be very much your repair dude and power armor pilot.

Speaking of 'the plan' did we ever figure out what level we are going to be, or if we are all the same level, or if we are tracking by OCC XP charts?

In reply to Victoria Sterling (msg # 171):

Cool! Sounds perfect for anti vamp cyber crew I am in!

:)

I got the following:

 - Basic Math
 - Radio: Basic
 - Computer Operation
 - Computer Repair
 - Computer Programming
 - Basic Electronics
 - Basic Mechanics
 - Robot Mechanics
 - Mechanical Engineer
 - Field Armorer
 - Weapons Engineer
 - Computer Hacking
 - Vehicle Armorer

In reply to Victoria Sterling (msg # 174):

I got the following:

 - Radio: Basic
 - Computer Operation
 - Computer Programming
 - Basic Electronics
 - Basic Mechanics
 - Field Armorer
 - General Repair & Maintenance
 - Salvage
 - Jury Rig

We might have a little bit of redundancy. That's good ;)

In reply to Victoria Sterling (msg # 176):

I am sure you are far better at any skills we both have. Best I can do is quick patch jobs and jury rigged salvaged repairs. I did get the robotic self repair system however.

:)

Not sure. Only IQ 12 and no real fancy skill bonuses ;)

In reply to Victoria Sterling (msg # 178):

No sweat. When I am not shooting people and breaking things I can be your mobile repair kit. Got a built in arc wielder and everything. Gotta pay the bills somehow-and vampire hunting gets expensive.

However this RCC power is pretty neat:

If I play the vagabond, he'll cooking, and business/finance.  Made sure he can read and do math.
Also, Professional grade at Cooking and Brewing:  Basic.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:51, Wed 02 Aug 2017.

Just a side note - are we using the perception system from Nightbane?
This message was undeleted by the player at 14:09, Thu 03 Aug 2017.

Well, as long as everyone is being above board with skill sets, I suppose I shall do the same...mostly.

Language: American    98%
Literacy: American    50% [5]
Computer Operation    55% [5]
Electronic Counter Measures    50% [5]
Intelligence    42% [4]
Pilot: Automobile    75% [2]
Pilot: Hovercraft    60% [5]
Pilot: Robots and Power Armor    66% [3]
Pilot: Robot Combat - Basic
Math: Basic    65% [5]
Radio: Basic    65% [5]
Running
Weapon Systems    50% [5]
HtH: Expert LV1
Detect Ambush    40% [5]
Detect Concealment    35% [5]
Forgery    30% [5]
Interrogation    40% [5]
Tracking: Humans and Robots    35% [5]
Camouflage    40% [5]
Cryptography    35% [5]
ID Undercover Agent    32% [4]
Surveillance Systems    40% [5]
Pilot: Elite Robot - Spider Skull Walker (NOTE: He is NOT advertising this skill with most of you CS haters :P)
Basic Electronics    30% [5]
Research    40% [5]
Sensory Equipment    30% [5]
Optic Systems    30% [5]

Level 1.  I'll throw some goodies at the weaker starts among us to help mitigate that.

Yes, I do like to use perception.  Didn't that get rolled into RUE?  If not, easy fix.

In reply to Man in Black (msg # 184):

Yes perception si part of RUE. P. 367

Yeah.  They say you can use it, then provide Perception bonuses for certain OCCs.

One at a time, copy the list, post your name that you want dispplayed, RCC/OCC, and who you hang with.

Player 1 : Elven Robo-Jock
Player 2 : Borg merc (Huge maybe?)
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 : Dragon hatchling
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7
Player 8 : Psi or man at arms
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Dragon Hatchling
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14 (This Guy): Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference

@ Player 2: I think the GM meant like this:

Player 1 : Elven Robo-Jock
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 : Dragon hatchling
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Dragon Hatchling
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14 (This Guy): Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

I am hanging with my bros Player 11 and player 10.

Player 1 : Elven Robo-Jock
Player 2 : Borg merc (Huge maybe?)
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7
Player 8 : Psi or man at arms
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Dragon Hatchling
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14: Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!
This message was last edited by the player at 07:49, Fri 04 Aug 2017.

In reply to Bak'ad (msg # 190):

If you copy the last iteration of the list and just add your own name etc. then it will be complete once everyone have done so :)

Player 1 : Elven Robo-Jock
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Dragon Hatchling
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14 (This Guy): Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

In reply to Bak'ad (msg # 190):

If you copy the last iteration of the list and just add your own name etc. then it will be complete once everyone have done so :)

Player 1 : Elven Robo-Jock
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Dragon Hatchling
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14 (This Guy): Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

If you copy the last iteration of the list and just add your own name etc. then it will be complete once everyone have done so :)

Exactly so but add your bros at the end of your line.  This makes my life worlds easier, so I really appreciate it.

Player 1 : Elven Robo-Jock
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (player 10, player 11)
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Dragon Hatchling (Bak'ad, Player 11)
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage (Bak'ad, Player 10)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14 (This Guy): Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

Sorry forgot about that.


Player 1 : Elven Robo-Jock
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (player 10, player 11)
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech, no preference
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Dragon Hatchling (Bak'ad, Player 11)
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage (Bak'ad, Player 10)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14 (This Guy): Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

Player 1 : Silver, Elven Robot Pilot, hangs with Scud (P4) and Carl Petros
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (player 10, player 11)
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech, no preference
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Dragon Hatchling (Bak'ad, Player 11)
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage (Bak'ad, Player 10)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14 (This Guy): Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

So I don't have any specific backstory connections manufactured yet but would be happy to forge some if anyone had any thoughts or ideas!

Player 1 : Silver, Elven Robot Pilot, hangs with Scud (P4) and Carl Petros
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Techno Wizard
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (player 10, player 11)
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7: Al, Juicer, TBD
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech, no preference
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Dragon Hatchling (Bak'ad, Player 11)
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage (Bak'ad, Player 10)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14 (This Guy): Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

Player 1 : Silver, Elven Robot Pilot, hangs with Scud (P4) and Carl Petros
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Scud, Techno Wizard: Hang w/ Silver (p1) & Carl - Know Doc. (P9)
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (hangs with Juzui and player 11)
Player 6 : Tattooed man
Player 7: Al, Juicer, TBD
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech, no preference
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Juzui -- Royal Frilled Dragon Hatchling (hangs with Bak'ad and Player 11)
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage (hangs with Bak'ad and Juzui)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14 (This Guy): Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

Player 1 : Silver, Elven Robot Pilot, hangs with Scud (P4) and Carl Petros
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Scud, Techno Wizard: Hang w/ Silver (p1) & Carl - Know Doc. (P9)
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (hangs with Juzui and player 11)
Player 6 : Gabriella, Undead Slayer, Hang w/ 11 & 12
Player 7: Al, Juicer, TBD
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech, no preference
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Juzui -- Royal Frilled Dragon Hatchling (hangs with Bak'ad and Player 11)
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage (hangs with Bak'ad and Juzui)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14 (This Guy): Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

Just restoring formatting so people can see who still needs to respond:

Player 1 : Silver, Elven Robot Pilot, hangs with Scud (P4) and Carl Petros
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Scud, Techno Wizard: Hang w/ Silver (p1) & Carl - Know Doc. (P9)
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (hangs with Juzui and player 11)
Player 6 : Gabriella, Undead Slayer, Hang w/ 11 & 12
Player 7: Al, Juicer, TBD
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech, no preference
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Juzui -- Royal Frilled Dragon Hatchling (hangs with Bak'ad and Player 11)
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage (hangs with Bak'ad and Juzui)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg
Player 13:
Player 14: Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

Player 1 : Silver, Elven Robot Pilot, hangs with Scud (P4) and Carl Petros
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Scud, Techno Wizard: Hang w/ Silver (p1) & Carl - Know Doc. (P9)
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (hangs with Juzui and player 11)
Player 6 : Gabriella, Undead Slayer
Player 7: Al, Juicer, TBD
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech, no preference
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Juzui -- Royal Frilled Dragon Hatchling (hangs with Bak'ad and Player 11)
Player 11: Super powers or non-human mage (hangs with Bak'ad and Juzui)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg-me, Rodrigo.
Player 13:
Player 14: Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!
This message was last edited by the player at 14:22, Fri 04 Aug 2017.

Player 1 : Silver, Elven Robot Pilot, hangs with Scud (P4) and Carl Petros
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Scud, Techno Wizard: Hang w/ Silver (p1) & Carl - Know Doc. (P9)
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (hangs with Juzui, Megistias, Gabriella, and likely Rodrigo)
Player 6 : Gabriella, Undead Slayer, Juzui, Megistias, Bak'ad, and likely Rodrigo
Player 7: Al, Juicer, TBD
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech, no preference
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Juzui -- Royal Frilled Dragon Hatchling (hangs with Bak'ad, Megistias, and and likely Gabriella)
Player 11: Megistias, True Atlantean, Shifter (hangs with Bak'ad, Juzui, Gabriella, and likely Rodrigo)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg-me, Rodrigo.
Player 13:
Player 14: Coalition Military Specialist RPOL dice roller strikes again!

Our group should probably grab one of the psychics who said they had no preference:
Ariel or Victoria.

Player 1 : Silver, Elven Robot Pilot, hangs with Scud (P4) and myself
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Scud, Techno Wizard: Hangs w/ Silver (p1) & I - we know Doc (or "Player 9")
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (hangs with Juzui, Megistias, Gabriella, and likely Rodrigo)
Player 6 : Gabriella, Undead Slayer, Juzui, Megistias, Bak'ad, and likely Rodrigo
Player 7: Al, Juicer, TBD; we've met and had a few discussions about goals
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech, no preference
Player 9 : Cyber doc
Player 10: Juzui -- Royal Frilled Dragon Hatchling (hangs with Bak'ad, Megistias, and and likely Gabriella)
Player 11: Megistias, True Atlantean, Shifter (hangs with Bak'ad, Juzui, Gabriella, and likely Rodrigo)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg-me, Rodrigo.
Player 13:
Player 14: Carl Petros, "ex"-Coalition Military Specialist, otherwise known to me as "myself"

I am not sure it's a grab thing, but more of a who are we starting with or who do we know type thing. Maybe I am wrong on that. My Shifter could know just about anybody in his travels since he travels a LOT, at least previously.

Player 1 : Silver, Elven Robot Pilot, hangs with Scud (P4) and myself
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 4 : Scud, Techno Wizard: Hangs w/ Silver (p1) & I - we know Doc (or "Player 9")
Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (hangs with Juzui, Megistias, Gabriella, and likely Rodrigo)
Player 6 : Gabriella, Undead Slayer, Juzui, Megistias, Bak'ad, and likely Rodrigo
Player 7: Al, Juicer, TBD; we've met and had a few discussions about goals
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech, no preference
Player 9 : Wire, Cyber doc, As Noted Elsewhere
Player 10: Juzui -- Royal Frilled Dragon Hatchling (hangs with Bak'ad, Megistias, and and likely Gabriella)
Player 11: Megistias, True Atlantean, Shifter (hangs with Bak'ad, Juzui, Gabriella, and likely Rodrigo)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg-me, Rodrigo.
Player 13:
Player 14: Carl Petros, "ex"-Coalition Military Specialist, otherwise known to me as "myself"

Aren't the dragons enough psi? One is a minor and the other a master...

It's really a group where a crippled psi with bionics really wouldn't fit :)

come join us, we have cookies :)

Oooohh. Cookies.

Might not be a bad idea. However she's more of a support character until she gets a power armour or something like that. Fixing stuff and making tech stuff ;)

my kind of gal, we can always work on suiting you up

You have an Elite Power Armor, or just any PA?

I can fix you up for cheap.  Upgrade!

If we get another Psychic (or caster) I'm happy to shift my choices around to make sure that character has priority in their niche.

Don't worry Juzui, we will always need a big dragon target, meat shield like you around.

Yep I'm totally also hiding behind you with you all they way!

^_^

Hopefully I didn't offend. Apologies if I did. Poor choice of words. Was really just trying to find a home for the "no preference" people.

Well, I think that either Team A (composed apparently so far of Silver, Scud, Wire and myself, with possibly Al joining the club) or Team B (composed apparently so far of Bak'ad, "Gabriella," Juzui, and Megistias [Both also being Team Dragon and Team Fuck the Undead]) would welcome any new members, be they Ariel the Mind Melter, Victoria the Psyborg, Player 3 the Mysterious, and Player 13 aka Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Picture, as they've poked his head in, but hasn't said a word yet.

No offense taken - I was just trying to let any potential joiners to our group know that I'd actively make room for them, as my RCC could step on magic/psi toes... especially with so many people crowding to hide behind me.  <pointy eyes at my "team">

Awww, now I want to join team Fuck the Undead!  Cool name.

Awesome use of a Python reference.  I almost popped a lung laughing.

Don't worry too much about overlapping.  You are all in the business of blowing shit up, and business is good.  :D


Going with these as a group right now.  It aligns very well with the starts I have in mind.

Player 1 : Silver, Elven Robot Pilot, hangs with Scud (P4) and myself
Player 4 : Scud, Techno Wizard: Hangs w/ Silver (p1) & I - we know Doc (or "Player 9")
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Crazy or HU or N&SS
Player 7: Al, Juicer, TBD; we've met and had a few discussions about goals
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech, no preference
Player 9 : Wire, Cyber doc, As Noted Elsewhere




Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (hangs with Juzui, Megistias, Gabriella, and likely Rodrigo)
Player 6 : Gabriella, Undead Slayer, Juzui, Megistias, Bak'ad, and likely Rodrigo
Player 10: Juzui -- Royal Frilled Dragon Hatchling (hangs with Bak'ad, Megistias, and and likely Gabriella)
Player 11: Megistias, True Atlantean, Shifter (hangs with Bak'ad, Juzui, Gabriella, and likely Rodrigo)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg-me, Rodrigo.
Player 13:
Player 14: Carl Petros, "ex"-Coalition Military Specialist, otherwise known to me as "myself"
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:34, Sat 05 Aug 2017.

I am very interested how we are going to pull in Carl into Team FtU. Carl, did you have any ideas other than we find you left for dead by your own squad mates when you accidentally said something about magic not being all bad ;-)

You don't all have to start knowing anyone.  Those are just starting groups.

Elite two times....

One for a PA and one for a RV. Though that are undecided still.


I wasn't offended at all ;) I just don't see what role my character would have in that group :D

Huh. Well, at least I know in passing most of Team A.

-
Let's see...honestly? Most Federals (Federation of Magic) are willing to work with the Undead and Demons. I'd see that as a common foe. Unaffiliated draconic/mage types, D-Bees, and rogue Cyborgs take a back seat in dealing with them as far as Carl goes, unless he has a dossier on any of you.

Even then, time can take the edge of his general orders. Right now, he assumes he's working with an enemy to take down a mutual one.

But, yeah. "Accidentally" said something about magic not being all bad, and "left for dead." Sure, we can go with that. More likely, "driven off" rather than "left for dead" though, as they would want the valuable CS tech he has to be intact for the mission (and so they could maybe get it back).

-
Just curious, because that can determine a lot about fighting style. A Flying Titan is a different beast from a SAMAS.

I'm still undecided on what PA and RV I'll choose.

Either I'll go with a SAMAS/Samson or it will be a flying Titan.

For the RV I'm considering something that'll also give us some sort of transportation.

But it matters little in the beginning. The most serious equipment I'll start with is an energy pistol I'm not proficient with and a non-EBA.

Anyone care to point out where they hid SDC values for OCC's?  I swear they change the format every time they print a book.  Why the hell would you put everything in one damn place?

It's something like 2D6+10 for everyone now. And then adding the bonus from the occ.

Found my book. Page 287 in RUE. 2D6+12

Wooo! Two more SDC for Victoria!!!! Making it a wopping total of 24! Go team V!

Oh, back in the day when it was PE + Skills

I need to get to those little things and get my combat block done.

It was never that.

In the original Rifts Men-of-Arms got 1d4*10, psychic rcc got 3d6 and magic users and scholars 4d6.



I really hope to stay out of combat for as long as possible. Without any real equipment I'm more likely to do more harm than good :D

So they DID change that. That's been confusing as hell for my old school ass.

Oh, well. CSA are now substandard Men At Arms. Welcome to life as a Nazi mook.

Hey Vic what is your preferred type of weapon?

WP: Blunt - for my wrench!

WP: Heavy Energy - for when in power armor.....

And then I realized that she does actually have

WP: Energy Pistol - for her heavy ion blaster :D

cool

She's going to blast away with that pistol. Almost as dangerous as a couple of dragons :P

In reply to Victoria Sterling (msg # 226):

Actually, it's 2d6+16 for everyone.

Where do you have that from?

Rifts Ultimate Edition, page 287.  Very first paragraph.

What printing of the book do you have? Mike says 2d6+12 at the same place????

Same here on the +12 and that is only in the case that the RCC/OCC does not specifically list something.

I seem to recall that it's only the Dog Boy that lists something. But I might be wrong.

I have the Gold Collectors First Edition Printers Proof of the RUE and it agrees with the 2d6+12 entry, you may just be misreading the +16, try using better light?

Strange.  I've had that book for a few years, and have always seen 2d6+16.  But, you are correct.  Hmmmm.  I need to subtract 4 SDC from every character I have created since I bought it.

Memory is super weird in exactly that way. We don't actually see most stuff we perceive, just remember it and our brains are like 'yeah that basically'.

To be fair I have had the thing for over a decade and never even bothered to read that section until someone offered up a page number, so it is hardly a problem, just something to make a point of double checking.

Skills... um not many of course.  I'll be your wilderness survival guide though!  I can use any weapon... Well sure, I only have a clue how to used one type safely at the moment, but who cares?  LOL

OCC/RCC SKILLS:
Speak/read Dragonese 98%
Speak/read Elven 98%
Math: basic 45% [+5%/level]

SECONDARY SKILLS:
Wilderness Survival 45% [+5%/level]
Language: English  30% [+3%/level]

WEAPON PROFICIENCIES:
WP Energy Rifle

Every printing changes something minute.  If your OCC says something different about SDC in another book, use that.  Just note that here for all of us to see.  If you have an older version of Rifts core, Use whatever SDC value is there for your OCC.  I'll keep a running tally of SDC values in house rules if I have to.

Are we using rue for master skills list? I have the for edition book but I can get my hands on rue.

I didn't see wp axe in the first edition book... Seems like blunt would be the closest equivalent but knowing palladium there's a wp axe somewhere

RUE
Either 2d6 or 2d8 damage depending on the size of Axe
+1 Strike & Parry at 2,5,8,12,15; +1 to strike when thrown at 5,8,12.
Not designed to be thrown.

Also, if you take the Flaming Shield tattoo (highly advisable) then you can take WP: Shield as well.

Do falchions / sabres / scimitars still do 1d8? Vs katana do 3d6?

I love palladium. Soooo intuitive.

If I'm not mistaken, and I could well be, the 3d6 for katanas is only for the super special blades made by the Empire of Japan's swordsmiths who are semi-mystical, and basically exclusive to the Traditional Samurai OOC. According to RUE, long swords, falchions and other large, one handed swords do 2d6.

I would use the RUE as the base for skills, but the same skills should be found in the GM's guide.  I say should optimistically.  If not, I'll get a list up.  Maybe I should just put the list up.  At least ancient weapons are the same in every book.  Pry open whatever Palladium book you have and use the stats for weapons from there.  Pretty sure they just copy and past that ancient weapon table.

There is actually an entire book from palladium dedicated to nothing more than the comparative effectiveness of ancient weapons (The Compendium of Weapons, Armor & Castles) that has one of the best and most exhaustive representations of that ever done for a table top RPG.  Something like 1% of it is used by the ancient weapons stat tables in other Palladium games.

For those at the Horny Goat, I am intentionally making it vague as to whom the other companions arewith Megs so that Player 13 and anybody else can be part if the introduction for IC purposes.

And as an OOC refresher....why are we all meeting at this inn where there are no wenches to be had?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:21, Tue 08 Aug 2017.

Fair enough. I had to find that you had introduced the others first. I'll retcon to include P13 when they post, including what I hope will be a hilarious thought if his name turns out to be Bob, Ted, Steve, or something like that.

IC, you called the meeting here. ;-)

Now he HAS to pick something like that.

There are wenches to be had...if you don't mind them being both adventurous AND married. So, the answer would likely be "no, but feel free to give your best shot anyways," but there is also the odds of being confronted by angry husband, father, and all their friends if you "succeed."

And before you say, "I'm a dragon, what do I care," please remember that in RIFTS, you are never the biggest fish in the pond, and for all we know the innkeeper has a statline that would put a Cosmo-Knight to shame.

On the other hand, that can be frickin' hilarious to discover. Go for it.

The only 'Lady' that would be of interest to Megs in this Inn is already sitting at the table. ;-)

We shall find out what Player 13 makes though, that could change!

Going on a camping trip beginning Wednesday morning, EDT.  Can't be sure of posting until Saturday night or Sunday.  Not that my character is accepted yet....LOL

I think the story line that Gabby wanted a message sent back home and knew that Megs could do that for her would be a good one. As far as I can tell Megs didn't call for a meeting, UNLESS, you guys want an invitation to become a Mercenary Company. Would reduce the number of vampire hunting you would do, most likely.

Looking for cool hooks into adventures.

Why not both?

Maybe Gabby's half had found a particularly tough vampire nest and need some reinforcements

Vampire nest sounds fun, but how do we make some money. My character has only so much unless he starts selling scrolls and we would need to find a spot to do that.

Who is Alex?

Alexander is the family/Sir name. Megistias is the first name :-)

She could call you Meg, or Alex. Your call.

She calls me Carlos. I'm just rolling with it, assuming its the name I gave. Kind of like if Obama went abroad as secret agent Obamo.

... If?

Yes. "If." Nothing specific can be said at present, and there are certainly no classified documents called "The Obamo Files" that allegedly detail the adventures of a secret agent president. That would be just silly.

Great idea for a web comic!

Carlos: I honestly thought your name was Carlos. As an after-the-fact explanation, I'm going to say we met in an area where people mostly spoke Spanish, so she has always associated you with the spanish version.

Really digging the group and dynamic so far! It's usually pretty awkward to pull a group together, especially with the variety you get in Rifts, but this is going quite well.

Then the human they imprinted on betrayed the dragons...

Glad to see everyone is gelling for the most part.  As soon as I have everyone ready, I'll throw the fun grenade into the crowded room.  You all are either going to love me or hate me. :D

Dibs on eating him!  Wait, that means we can eat him right?  LOL

I wonder if that is a record to go through humans this fast?  I mean I've already on number 2 with Meg and I'm only just under a week old.


Off to work but will post later!

Vacationing with family this afternoon through Monday so I probably won't post until then.

Ummm, wow Juzui, that is leaving the entire group sitting at a table at a cliff hanger for.....6 days. Guess we will just have to continue as if Juzui calmed down or we are pretty much hosed till Monday.

In reply to Megistias Alexander (msg # 273):

Don't sweat it. Dragons hold a grudge for a long, long, loooooooooooong time...

:P
This message was last edited by the player at 19:32, Thu 10 Aug 2017.

Popped on before heading out - made a very short post to let things keep going.

Our half of the group is really a freak show:

A depressed cyborg, a lame mechanic, a blind psionicist....

or maybe it's just the beginning of a very dumb joke :)

I haven't been assigned to a group yet, lame or otherwise :(

"So this guy walks into a bar, see?  His head explodes.  Turned out it was a MD bar."

In reply to Victoria Sterling (msg # 276):

See, I knew I should have been in with you guys! We all could be depressed cyborgs in group therapy!

:P

hehehe.

Your part of the Dragon-Hatchling, Shifter, Cyborg, Undeadslayer group currently at the Horny Goat. Your character was introduced at the table as part of Megs group....it was just that we didn't have a name yet, so it wasn't given.

In reply to Megistias Alexander (msg # 280):

I can see the following threads
Character Creation
OOC
House Rules

In reply to Kahlvyn Hahlynd (msg # 281):

The GM has not assigned you any groups yet other than 0.

Well then, please PM the GM to have you put into the group residing at the Horny Goat thread :-)

Damn... got ninjaed



Yeah. I noticed that you hadn't been assigned other groups than group 0. The rest of us are either in group 1 or group 2 as well.

Sorry.  Not used to this whole group thing and forgot.  Fixing it now.

Player 1 : Silver, Elven Robot Pilot, hangs with Scud (P4) and myself
Player 4 : Scud, Techno Wizard: Hangs w/ Silver (p1) & I - we know Doc (or "Player 9")
Player 2 : Ariel, Mind Melter, no preference
Player 3 : Darvin
Player 7 : Al, Juicer, TBD; we've met and had a few discussions about goals
Player 8 : Victoria Sterling: Partial conversion cyborg/Psi-tech, no preference
Player 9 : Wire, Cyber doc, As Noted Elsewhere




Player 5 :  Bak'ad --Fire Wind Dragon Hatchling, (hangs with Juzui, Megistias, Gabriella, and likely Rodrigo)
Player 6 : Gabriella, Undead Slayer, Juzui, Megistias, Bak'ad, and likely Rodrigo
Player 10: Juzui -- Royal Frilled Dragon Hatchling (hangs with Bak'ad, Megistias, and and likely Gabriella)
Player 11: Megistias, True Atlantean, Shifter (hangs with Bak'ad, Juzui, Gabriella, and likely Rodrigo)
Player 12: Full conversion anti vamp borg-me, Rodrigo.
Player 13: Kahlvin, undead slayer
Player 14: Carl Petros, "ex"-Coalition Military Specialist, otherwise known to me as "myself"

Everyone should be set to go.  I want to make sure my ducks are lined up and let your RP wind down a little before shit hits the fan.  Oh, and I've been feasting on Taco Bell.  *evil grin*

I have access to the IC thread now! I have a lot of reading to catch up on but hope to get something up by evening.

In reply to Man in Black (msg # 287):

Did you order the Splugorth Burrito? Xictix Nachos? Coalition Taco? :-D

Huzzah! He is now appearing in this picture...as another Slayer. Fair enough. Two can take a very different approach to how they do things.

And to be fair, as long as you are going Tattooed Warrior, you might as well go for the top of the shelf.

It's been a long time since I last got to play a fighter type, even longer since I played an Undead Slayer. I bought the new Atlantean Sourcebook and hope to have it in my hands soon. I wanted to play one in anticipation of getting the book :)

So what vehicles does Group 2 have?

Carl: Jeep, seats +3?
Rod: Hovercycle?
Megs: Hovercycle?
Dragons: can fly, but would attract attention in dragon form. Can they polymorph into birds (or mice- and ride in the jeep or on a hovercycle without taking up much room)? How long could they hold it?
Gabs: No vehicle. Tats aren't good for long range movement powers.
Kahlvyn: I assume same as Gabs

Who am I missing?

I have an open question out to DM... going to wait for IC post until I get an answer.

In reply to Gabriella (msg # 292):

Ahem, I have a freaking awesome hoverhog, thank you very much!

hehehe

:P

Tattoos can be used for long range movement depending on the environment and which tattoos. A horse tattoo for instance is a good means of land travel that usually doesn't draw attention. Since it is a tattoo animal, it has maximum stats and even better, never gets tired. It isn't as fast as a hovercycle but 45MPH will still get you there.

Other alternatives, if you don't mind being flashy, include things like gryphons. There too it will have max stats and never tire. You can also get the run fast tattoo or the fly tattoo. Yet another means is the space powers tattoo, which goes fairly fast but has the draw back of only working in space.

I already considered this. At level 1, the duration on tattos aren't long enough for major overland travel, and the PPE costs are prohibitive for major re-use.

Well true, being able to go 45 miles in one hour at the cost of 50 PPE, even for Undead Slayers, is a little costly. It still might almost be affordable if you knew you would never need to travel more than 45 miles/one hour and weren't worried about cargo capacity.

I asked the GM if he would allow me to take a mount, since vehicles aren't part of the Undead Slayer starter build. I imagine you asked the same thing. We'll just have to wait and see what he says :)

No vehicle for me.  Well, unless I buy one, I guess.  Or if we manage to loot one...

Can fly AND turn invisible at will.  Right now I'm about the size of a large dog with scales and wings and bigger pointier teeth and claws.  In about a week or two I'll be double my size.  I'm cool with shapeshifting but can only hold it about an hour at a time right now.

No vehicle here, but Al can run at ~70 mph at a sprint, and can maintain a sprint for... However long [(P.E. 19)*5] lets you run. So. Awhile.

I've got a big boss ATV. So some of us can hunker up in that one if we need to go anywhere.

I really like how the GM have made an over the top combat group with two dragons, two undead slayers and full conversion cyborg and then a group of low lives that barely have a single vehicle among them ;)

Generally speaking Rifts hands out vehicles to a small subset of classes, those who have some kind of focus on them, or the heavily support types, but most groups end up having at least one vehicle of sufficient size unless every player intentionally selects smaller craft.

My personal favorite, both as a player and a GM, is the classic Behemoth Explorer. Sure it doesn't move fast and has almost no combat ability, even if you add extras but its BIG, got AC, a kitchen, sickbay and repair bay! Its lack of combat ability can even be an asset. If no one sees it as a threat, they are less likely to get all anxious seeing it lumbering down the road and decide to shoot it just in case. ^_^

Some TW needs to build a suburban assault vehicle that runs on beer and banana peels:



80s writers must have been enamored with the concept... There's a Scarecrow and Mrs King episode from around the same era with the same concept ("The Magic Bus"). So it would fit right into Rifts.

“That’s One Heavily Armed Recreational Vehicle!”

Love that movie!

I like the Naruni hover explorer.  Anyone seen Stripes?  The EM-50 from that looked like a fun ride.
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I saw it. Very funny. Harold Ramis co-wrote that movie and starred in it I think.

Along with this one guy, what was the name?  Phil Slurry?  Gil Hurry?  Something like that? ;)

I got the Atlantean sourcebook just now! Ninja mailmen delivered it. I stepped outside to get some fresh air and it was just sitting there ^_^

AS promised, the Undead Slayer and other original Atlantean OCCs have been updated for RUE. That means adding things like Perception bonuses and what have you. In my estimation, its significant but not game changing. The new tattoos are the same way, they add something to the game but don't fundamentally change anything. If anything I would say they are under powered. I can already identify changes that I will make for my own games.

For those playing Atlanteans and wanting to know about the updates, shoot me a PM and I will do my best to help you.

Weren't we just told to roll to save vs. HF? Why is everybody rolling to break free? And what are you rolling against? And just how do you get +50 to a d20 roll?

The questions are piling up in my small brain?

I dunno.  I rolled what the others were rolling; it seemed like it was worth a try.  The GM can ignore my pathetic attempts as needed... ;)

I interpreted 'then go for it' as pick a solution to the problem most appropriate to your character but still within the system mechanics of the game.

Some folks seem to be rolling as if their entire PS score was a bonus to their D20 roll for breaking ropes, which could work if the GM wants it to but isn't really a thing, even the games that do that sort of thing would only use the bonus from the attribute.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:55, Sun 13 Aug 2017.

Fair.  Sometimes, I discover things like that came out of discussion on IM that I didn't know about; my roll would have been 15 by bonus alone.  But, y'know, it might be irrelevant.

Generally in Palladium you are rolling a d30 and trying to get UNDER your score. Any penalty is a + to your roll and a bonus would be a - to your roll.

Ah, that cursed d30 System. Last time I encountered one of those I was informed that God's existence was the only rational conclusion by the game system IRL itself. I had to read a fan-made Palladium conversion of Yehweh in order to get my grounding back.

Wow Palladium has yet ANOTHER mechanic?!

It's Palladium. They deal in complications, not simplifications. ^_^

It is only for things that directly relate to your base stats. Almost everything else is a saving throw which uses the d20 ;-)

Yes. Exactly.

I know there's Savage Rifts out there. I have a couple of the books actually... By now there must be a d20 conversion, although knowing Simbieada, he and his lawyers have threatened the crap out anyone who's tried to put it online.

Savage Rifts does an excellent job of translating 90% of the setting into a 100% useful system but even with Simbieada's full support it is not an exact copy or really an upgrade other than its simplification.  It does have the grace of being more resistant to legal reprisal than Rifts Manhunter.

Rifts:  Manhunter would have been cooler if it had been complete.  Give the Widowmaker the sharpshooting skil, for example.
The mechanic I know of for ability checks, particularly when opposed by another character, has been roll a d20 and add the ability score.  It seems I'm not the only one.

I'm actually looking into Savage Rifts right now, actually. I'm probably going to run my friends through it, as the system IS the biggest flaw Palladium has.  Seriously, make a new edition and tidy that up already, KS!

*lawyered!*

...ow.

I didn't know that was an verb you could be hit with.

Yes, Ariel interpreted my ramblings correctly.  Make your horror check and react accordingly.  I have to admit I don't remember the d30 rule.  Doesn't really work with PS since it can easily go over 30 and has three different types.  I had figured on the use of escape artist, enhanced strength breaking rope, maybe some acrobatics to maneuver off the limb, using friction to wear down the rope, or other power.  I haven't looked yet, so.... let's see who has been the most creative.

No rush, just let us know when you are done with the post so we know when to check the thread for the next round of our own posts, assuming we all want to stick to a quasi initiative style of posting by rounds?

Ah yes. I must admit that I've never heard of the d30 rule and I've been playing Rifts since I got my teenage hands on the first book back in '91 (yeah that's last millennium).

As far as I can recall there's no real way of testing your ability scores against that of other characters. At least not in the published Rifts books.

And I guess that I acted accordingly. I do know that the HF is only one lost attack. But still I think that seeing something like that waking up in that way it's still quite appropriate to be freaked out ;)

The stat system is pretty much a waste in Palladium.  Anywho, I finished.  That went much easier than I expected.  Kudos.

For the rest of you, I was waiting on someone who wanted to post something.  I couldn't get to it tonight.  Just worn out from wacky work schedule.  I'll get you guys when I wake up.

How are we handling the "Breaking free from ropes" issue?  A bunch of us were trying; who was successful?

Ariel freed everyone.

Okay.

Just so I have the correct picture of the scene in the Horny Goat thread...

Carl, Rod, Bak'ad and Gab are all outside of the fabulous inn that is the Horny Goat.

Somehow, Rod was able to detect that a portal (read as not a Rift) was open for a split second inside the Horny Goat and alerted Gab and Carl to this.

Kahlvyn (that's me!) and Magistrias, are still inside the Horny Goat, next to the table.

Is that all correct or does someone else have a different picture?
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In reply to Kahlvyn Hahlynd (msg # 330):

More or less. Gab would have felt the evil too, and I figure there was enough commotion inside that the people outside would have heard SOMETHING odd going on in there. Rodrigo described his advanced auditory sensors being able to pick up specific stuff.

Juzui (player out of town) is also in the Horny Goat, but Megs is prodding 'the strapping young man' to head outside to fight whatever the evil is.

Hey GM, how much prep should we do before the action starts?

Well, I was personally giving myself fifteen seconds as a guess. Open vehicle, open locker, grab guns and medkit, remove forearm cover from armor on right arm, load mini-missiles into aforementioned bionic arm, strap bandolier of grenades on, ready assault rifle, look for cover.

Haven't actually gone in the building yet. He figures if a fight occurs that justifies the weapons he's bringing out, the building won't provide cover or even concealment for long.

Just to be clear, the evil isn't coming from the portal or the people that came through it.

I'm not sure how to answer your question, Gabby.  I guess that depends on how the character would react given the circumstances.  You have a dire warning, but no description or timetable.

I really like how you did init there gm!

I've seen this system before. It's a pain to do at a tabletop, but Play-By-Post gives you more time to set this sort of thing up. Not shabby.

I've never seen it done that way, either PBP or table top. I'm curious how it will work out.

I like that it spreads the action around more evenly.  Now that I have the numbers, it won't take long to adjust for initiave rolls.  When someone levels up and gains an extra action, I just move them over.

I am interested to see how this form handles things like knockdown, HF, and other stuff the makes a character lose initiative. Everybody else should get one action before they get to go, but if they started with 7 attacks, in this system they would normally go first.

Shouldn't be hard to set up an Excel sheet for it