This is where we will discuss out of character matters.

How critical is it to know the Only war stuff? I don't have that one so the squad things don't mean anything to me.

I'll post a summary of the comrade rules for everyone who doesn't have that rule book.

You rock!

Comrade stuff is easy.  They’ve got simple standard orders that give you small bonuses and cost no xp, additional ones from the specialties that cost, and then others that any comrade can get.  If you really want to spend xp on them you can take a talent making them veteran and unlock even more orders.

I’ve got the books too so I can lend commentary from experience.

Hey boss...

You may want to arbitrarily take one thing from the Ogryn Comrade to apply to our Astartes groupies.  They get an extra Wounded spot because of their resilience since they are tougher than your average Guard trooper.  Astartes should fit the same profile if not tougher at a thought.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:12, Wed 04 Apr 2018.

You calling us Ogryns? Now now!!!

Well actually calling us tougher than Ogryns. ;)

If our squadmates are Unwounded, wounded and dead they are no tougher than *gasp* a PDF Guardsman...

Okay, fair enough. Extra category called Lightly Wounded.

So I was thinking about Wargear:

Without resorting to spoilers, you will be isolated from the Imperium at large. There will still be opportunities to gain resources, but a lot of it will be based on finding them or bargaining for them.

So, instead of Requisitioning resources like the Deathwatch do, what do we think about a more traditional inventory system? The Company has weapons and wargear to choose from, and you can select them for your missions. Gradually you can expand your inventory with rewards and reclaimed items. You may also gain the ability to supply yourselves with munitions like ammunition, so a certain amount is available at the beginning of missions.

So we start with a standard armory and then we can use the RT aqcuisition methods to get better stuff either for oneself or with some luck enough to arm a company.

A low RT profit factor would work for limited resources.

Of course...

If we are segmented away from the Imperium having ammunition for every non-las weapon is going to run out quick unless the ship we're on has a manufactorum on board (like the component in Battlefleet Koronus).

Your vessel will initially be able to produce basic munitions. Later you may be able to acquire more advanced ones, or the capacity to manufacture them.

Nice we get level unlocks.

Curiosity...

You want us to use the existing Chapters for creation or could we be from a hand-crafted one ala 'official' but never statted out like Sons of Antaeus or even a brand new one?  Obviously being in the Dragon Lords overrides the Attack and Defense mode that comes natural with them.

You can make up a new chapter or status of an existing one if you want.

We should be making a char already?

We don’t have enough people yet so I’m asking extra questions now when we get unreserved access to our awesome GM :-)

I haven’t started yet anything more than some ideas in my head.

I ran into a complete Carcharodon starting psyker when i hunted down my empty Deathwatch sheet. Space Shark ready to go and to give that psyker a go (i have hardly any experience with psykers)

Though the moves we get gave me that Iron Warrior feel. Advance firing guns blazing in a nice pattern. So a tactical or Tech Iron Warrior Imperial Fist has a nice ring to it to. I was thinking the quicker we have a char done the more i can work on a story for him as its always hard to make a marine story thats beyond 'i went there kicked ass and brought glory to the emperor'

Probably the reason why i run Black Crusade games instead ;-)

I was thinking. Do you guys want to play an Orky game instead, for now?

I once started a Gorkamorka game. Sadly enough it never got running properly as people seemed to forget that if you  where supposed to form a gang to advanture together infighting and playerkilling was not the way to go.

So its interesting depending on what the setup is.

There you go.  Necromunda ganger gang.  VanSaar, Goliath, Cawdor, Delaque, Orlock, Escher.  Two individuals starting a gang looking to rule the undrhive, lol.

In reply to PlayerA (msg # 22):

Orlocks are orcy but the rest?

It was more a riff on gangs to adventure with than Orky.  Though Goliaths fluff wise are the muscular brutes closest in physique to Orks.

Was thinking about starting an Only War game called Only Waaarg.

Only war is the only game i dont have. Next to the 2nd editions. Sort of fell in love with BC

Only War is similar in many ways to Black Crusade.

Only War vet, but DW n00b checking in :)

So the RT Crusade or Orky time?

Hi mister C
This message was last edited by the player at 21:33, Mon 30 Apr 2018.

Would prefer to play Space Marines, I've DMed enough boyz that they make my brain hurt :P

I'm still in the slightly more social Marines in a RT sort of setup court vs Orky time.

Okay, point made.
Do you folks want to start making characters now? Let's say an extra 500 XP when beginning. Also, we'll say that in addition to having your specialty's typical wargear, you also have a clip of specialty ammo for your pistol, 15 requisition or less.

Made me a space shark psyker. Psychic heavy flamer, Smite and Augury as powers.

I wanna play a stealth-oriented dreadnought, does that work? :P

"Hush brothers, we are hunting wabbits!"

Get yourself a big enough of a Stummer and a tech-heretic enterprising young tech-priest to rubber you up and it might work...

Go Wolf Scout and rely on a strict reading of the rules that says wearing (only) terminator armor negates swapping in your Per for Ag for stealth checks...throw on some camo netting and I think you can get to somewhere around canceling out the -50 penalty.

I'm thinking Apothecary of some sort, possibly a Black Dragon for the lolz.

I had not previously consider the prospect of a Dreadnought player character. I'm not sure what comrade you would have, if any.

Well if I remember correctly Dreadnoughts are an elite advance sort of deal and you need to have a certain renown so it's not something easily taken at creation.

I kid, I was not expecting to have a dread at character creation.  I specialize in bizarre character concepts :D

Apothecary would be my choice of specialty, but I could easily change up to tactical brother or other specialty if we need it.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:07, Tue 08 May 2018.

go for what you like most. We got the first choice here after all let the new blood later suffer though all the cool concepts being taken ;-)

I wanted to be a ravenwing dreadnaught once. But the GM didn't let me use a land raider as a bike. *cries*

No, no, no...

You needed to step on a Stormtalon Gunship and use it as your ride!

Hey, if we wanted to go orky we could always skysurf on rokkitsquigs...

If wed play an Orky game id make a Brute Ramship Kamikaze pilot :-P

I've given you all a blank character sheet to work with. It's not exactly blank, it has a couple of common Space Marine stuff.

So i went with these psy powers.

Powers:
Avenger                            Psychic Heavy Flamer. Pen PRx2
Smite                              Psychic blast. 1d10xpsy damage, Pen Psy, Blast Psy. WP as shooting inc range
Augury                             Gain some answers to a question

The emperor might answer our questions and the rest i can purge with his holy fire.

OK it might be awhile before I have time to set up this campaign properly. Would everyone like to play a normal Deathwatch game, using published scenarios? Thinking of starting with Final Sanction.

couldn't we start this one as a normal and then slide over into the special once you are done with setting it up? That at that point we are 'leased' to the chapter.

Sounds fine to me.

Okay, I'll adjust the character creation rules. Go ahead and start making a standard Deathwatch character.

In the interest of making things easier, I'll stick with the Apothecary but shift to one of the book chapters.  Need to re-read some of the fluff.

Howdy folks, Space Puppy bog standard here. I'll be providing the beer/mjod for for this campaign and punching any dark angels we see upside the head.

We keep the extra 500 xp we got earlier?

Welcome player D. Sad to see you are a wretched flea carrier but as im a space shark this turn you come off easy ;-)

Yeah, sure, hang on to your ill-gotten plunderage, you cartilaginous vulture of the void-seas.

Is that an extra 500xp for everyone, or does it just relate to players that have been in another game related to this one?

You can have it.

Yar!! Da first plunder is to be had mateys!!!

Done again. Im so good ;-)

Yay, that means I have enough XP to bring along my faithful hound.

Edit: Sent my sheet by PM because I can't edit under Character Details yet. Background is done but not typed up yet because of RL nonsense.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:53, Mon 28 May 2018.

Hi all, I'll be joining, not sure if the game setting and all has been decided?  I saw Orks, Marines, and pretty much everything in between.  I initially pitched a Charcaradon Assault marine, but can be very flexible, as I see there could be more than one.

Has a decision been made on the game?  I'll come up with a concept once we're set.

Just out of curiosity, what specialisms has everyone gone for?

My understanding is that we'll start with Final Sanction using wholly standard DW rules.

Maybe we should all be Carcharadons, and call ourselves Squad Sharknado.  You know you want to :P

We will definitely be starting with standard deathwatch rules playing final sanction and then moving on to other ones. Eventually, we will be graduating to an original campaign.

Apothecary.  Chapter TBD.  If two of you are serious about going Space Shark I'm probably going to have to avoid the more humanitarian-minded chapters.

Ironic, in lieu of a Space Shark I was thinking of an Apothecary.

There are so many Chapters, I can find that works, it's the Specialty that we may want to be fully covered on.

Looks like Librarian is suggested and Apothecary, I could go full tech and make an Ironhands Techmarine.  Then we could fill up on the Assault, Devastator and Tactical.

Lotta love for the sharks on here. I guess that means people are tired of the ultra Smurfs?

I really suck at writing space marine backgrounds. Probably havent read enough fluff books on em. So im sort of blanc there. I am also entirely blanc on the adventure paths so im going in blind. Hope thats not an issue as i find knowing of em spoils the fun a lil for me as i tend to make the 'right' decicions in critical moments.

Im al for Sharkanado IV. And for each new party member we count up.

My Shark Psyker is up already so its not suggested its done already ;-)

AS for Specialties. Personally i feel you should roll with something you like. Most Marines can hold their ground and beyond the massive healing a Apotech does about anything else everyone can potentially do.

And i never liked the smurf. Then again i was a hardcore Dark Angel player.

One thing I've never seen is a Dearhwatch killteam that is of one Chapter, if we were thinking all going Space Sharks, count me in!

Thats going to make boring battles. Nobody tauning enemies just silently butchering them all.

Also PlayerA still with us?

That's a great point, forgot about their whole silence thing.

I'll go with an Assault  Marine, Iron Hands, can still have plenty of Tech support that way.

I meant Devastator, not Assault.

Aw, and here I thought you were going to implant blades into your bionic hand and go by "Sharpus Manus" ;)

Once you have decided what Chapter, specialization, and name you want, send me a PM to that effect. If you haven't already.

I likely won't be able to make a conclusive decision or build until the end of the week--just a very busy time at work that gives me enough freedom to post snarky comments but not any thing substantive.

Here's a few concepts I have in mind, I'd like to post for group cohesiveness (aha!).  I have backgrounds in mind for them, but for now, let me mention some nuts and bolts concepts.

Iron Hands Devastator; A walking wall that shoots stuff and can fix things.

Ravenguard Assault; A ninja in power armor!

Raptors Tactical; See that thing over there?  No you don't, I already killed it at over 1000 yards.

Charcharadon Assault; A flying chainsword from the depths of space.


The first and last are the opposite of subtlety and stealth.  Take the leash off and watch the chunks fly.

The middle two would be designed for precision and incursion, the chunks may fly, but no one sees or hears them fall.


What are we looking for in a Kill Team?  A balanced team, or a more focused team that performs a certain type of mission or methodology?  I didn't take any of the specialist types (Apoth, Tech, or Librarian) but I can, with a preference perhaps for the Techmarine (I could adapt the Iron Hands concept to a Techmarine).

Well established are a Shark Librarian and a Wolf Tactical

Player C was busy but going for an apotech iirc. Which is great.
Player A is rather quit send him a PM to let him know we love some input from him.

So id say scrap the Tactical idea as its to generalist and we got it covered with Wolfy.

My personal preference would go to the Devastator as it sounds cool and i can stand next to you with my psychic heavy flamer. WE call our squad Regret and tear all enemies a new one. Or the Shark Assault. We go under the name NAIL (Now All Is Lost) and do away with any subtlety and be a real kill team. ;-)

If we have a Tactical and no Assault, then I'll go with a Charcharadon Assault Marine and go all sharky.  Story wise, we could say that the Deathwatch entreated the Sharks for aid, in response they sent...two.  Quality over quantity (which is kind of the Deathwatch motto anyway).

Pfft, if they wanted quality they'd have asked for two wolves :D

Aye, I'm here.

End of the fiscal year rolling up has made my work a bit busier than normal.  :\  I am still here though and going nowhere.  :)

Starting as DW and modules before rolling over to the real campaign sounds good.  May have to look at a few different things then as options.  I'll be more detailed tonight when my brain is fried over numbers and more numbers.

In reply to Hrothgar (msg # 76):

No we are about to be send to a forrest world and Wolves have the tendency to pee against every tree. THats taking to long.

So youre a numbers guy. Guess that makes you the Tech marine then. They love numbers ;-)

*laughs*

Nah when I come here I don't want to see numbers that way so it's unlikely that I'll be a Techmarine.  Not impossible but you know how it goes :-P

It's the same reason that I never want to play the Healer but always end up getting stuck doing that anyway.

Good thing i just work in a snackbar.

Gotta love it when the EU decides to promulgate new regulations that take effect a week before all your contracts need to close.  It's like double the work for half the fun!

Yup and when you are down to this time of the year most of the ones left are all the 'problem children' that you've been haranguing for stuff for months so this exact situation doesn't happen. :)

I tyhought fiscal years ended in october. At least they did when i was still a labrat.

July 1st to June 30th.

Lucky...mine is June 1-May 31, which has this nice side effect of I never get to take holidays because the US ones always seem to fall near a quarter end.

On the plus side...

...not coming up with a plus side

In reply to Brother Arkio (msg # 78):

How else are the xeno scum to know which areas we've conquered?

When I bring the wolf along, it will literally be a peeing contest.

Planning for the future here, does anyone have plans to take the Forging The Bond talent when we hit rank 2?
This message was last edited by the player at 07:37, Thu 31 May 2018.

Where is that talent from? All i know is i wanna end up in terminator armor but you need to be rank 4 i believe. And tbh no game on here ever got that far.

I'm planning to give exp fairly liberally at first.

Only place you're going to 'easily', and I use that term very lightly, see terminator armour is if you are playing Ascension and you also are an Ordo Malleus Inquisitor.  Then you've got a chance at some Sanctified Terminator Armour.  You are right though that other than starting at that rank I haven't seen any games reach that point on Rpol.

So we've got to Sharknado brothers (Librarian and Assault), a Werewolf (Tactical) and an unknown (Apothocary).  Sounds like if we want all bases covered I've got Devastator or that damn Techmarine again, lol.  Decisions, decisions...

A Techmarine is just a Devastator who can also fix stuff.  Iron Hands Devastators are practically Techmarines already.  Just sayin'.

I vote we nickname them Sharky and George.

Isn't the only real differece that a Devastator doesn't get the fancy backpack arm but cheap BS upgrades

And ain't there Full Auto rules to?

I kinda like the new ammo rules, it gives a more cinematic feel (which honestly is what being a Space Marine is all about).  I feel less bad about not maxing out full auto, too.

The to-hit modifiers come from an Only War campaign and are really just there as reference for the most common shot modifiers, since most Guardsmen never use full auto.  I used them for my IRL group since nobody wanted to do the math every time.  I personally don't make use of them since it's really just a matter of adjusting the tens digit by a point or two (most of the time).

That being said, if we're running vanilla-with-sprinkles DW rules, I think the scatter is different so the modifiers will be a tad lower.

Back to character genning...an Iron Hands apothecary could be pretty amusing.  I'd like to think it makes the rest of the battle brothers flee in terror:
"But it's just a scratch!"
"Fear not, your new nose will be all shiny and chrome!"

Pretty much finished my character.  Brother Kyros is built to be a horde breaker.  He can do fine one-on-one, but he excels in scattering hordes of things.

I'm going to try to finalize my character concept tomorrow.

You guys can go ahead and post in the new thread.

OK, I've decided to be a Storm Warden Apothecary.

Don't we get to know the mission before we req gear?

To late now so will post tomorrow was just checking before signing off.

They will be taking orders throughout the briefing.

I bit the cog and went with the Techmarine.  Sons of Antaeus.

In reply to Erebus Nix (msg # 101):

But thats more numbers!! See you love em ;-)

I have to post when i get home, but is there additional Intel on the mission?  The main thing Kyros needs is another Chainsword or something suitably teary.  The rest, barring a point here and there, I could donate.

There will be more information, yes. Spoilers, it's genestealers.

Bog-standard loadout for me, meaning a Diagnostor 15 points.  That leaves me 35 points to spend on specialty ammo, drugs or contribute to the squad.  Any suggestions?
This message was last edited by the player at 19:00, Mon 04 June 2018.

To start, I'm thinking maybe a special grenade or two, or a landmine, depending on Renown requirements. For my main, some Hellfire, Kraken and Metal Storm rounds. Dessert is still being worked out.

Maybe a nova grenade or two?

My Requisition:

1 Chainsword 5 Req
1 Astartes Assault Shotgun 7 Req (Rites of Battle)
2 Nova Grenades 30 Req

Total Req: 42

Donating 8 Requisition to the group, unless there are other suggestions?  It could go to the Devastator for Missiles if he's going that route.

Sorry had a migraine attack yesterday. Will try to get stuff done today after work.

Wasn't there some way to get higher rank gear at a higher cost?

If the mission is going to be in a wide area we could opt for some transport.

Transport is not necessary but not out of the question.

So was looking at requisitions and i can't sem to find a cameoline cloak We good guys dont get em?

Are they in Rites of battle? If anyone wants something from alternative books, it's fine, as long as there an official publication. Also, if you're not happy with your power armor history, you can roll again or simply pick.

So i went with:

15 Psy Focus
05 Cartograph
20 Camo Cloak
01 Chrono
04 Astartes Harness

If we need to free up points for something i can drop some items but the Psy Focus is to usefull to drop and the camo cloak just sounds to handy if we are sneaking around nids.

Woot!  Shark High Five!

I've gone for Kraken rounds as my freebie, Metal Storm Rounds (15), Chainsword (5) and  Cluster Mines (5). Unless there's something the group wants, I'm gonna throw in a Melta-Bomb (25) as well.

I think once we all told the serf what we want and it gives us a briefing we might end up with something we might need.

Was also considering taking a Vox caster so we can talk to an eventual command ship but turns out you burn through 50 points real fast.

Also vehicles cost no req so we ask for one and if its appropriate for the mission we can get it.

Wrapping up req sometime today.

Edit: here's what I have for me thus far:
Diagnostor 15, Kraken rounds 5, Resuscitex x1 5, Detox x1 10, stun grenade x1 10

that's a total of 45 for me.  Would stalker rounds be better than kraken?

Groupwise, looks like we have 12 req currently available.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:41, Wed 06 June 2018.

In reply to Kestyr (msg # 117):

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but in the errata Kraken rounds were bumped up to cost 15 req instead of 5.

Bah, I knew there was a reason I avoided reading it ;)

Will have to consider what to do with that extra 5 points.  I kind of like having a Blast 5 stun grenade so I may not upgrade them to novas.

Sorry for my delay.  RL smacked me around for a little...too many numbers ;-P

Will catch up and post maybe not tonight but tomorrow for sure.

Get more blast nades?

And bad numbers!! Id say subtract something of em.

Maybe use some of the spare points to get anti plant ones? In case those critters hide in a bush we really want to clear?

17 req available means we could potentially afford something nice.

Spoilers:

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don't bother with a vox caster

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A benevolent GM? I sense a trap :D

Well with that spoiler in mind my idea to go for a Vox caster and then leave the unused Req points to get scans of combat areas from the ship is moot too.

Kyros:
1 Chainsword 5 Req
1 Astartes Assault Shotgun 7 Req (Rites of Battle)
2 Nova Grenades 30 Req

Arkio:
15 Psy Focus
05 Cartograph
20 Camo Cloak
01 Chrono
04 Astartes Harness

Kestyr:
Diagnostor 15,
Resuscitex x1 5,
Detox x1 10,
stun grenade x1 10

Erebus:
unknown

Left 18

Just realized grenade requisitions are a piece not per 10 like in black crusade.

How will ammo be dealt with? We got 'unlimited' supply or only the 3 reloads? In that case extra ammo might be an idea as Zerg are without number.

You got the usual three reloads. I will tell you when you are running low.

I say Erebus gets some kind of heavy weapon and additional ammo with the extra requisition.  Heavy Flamer maybe?  We could have large hordes to deal with.  Hrothgar could also get some additional ammo as the tactical.

We only get three clips or regular ammo? Where is that mentioned & where are the costs for extra rounds? Can't believe I missed it.

I could ditch the Melta Bomb if needs be, or the mines.

I got a psychic heavy flamer so lets snag a heavy bolter then instead in case we need to keep things at range. Though im more up close and personal

Ah r3 reloads is BC

I could grab a Heavy Bolter if I ditch the mines & steal from the pot. If my maths is right that leaves us with 3 req. Or, I could lose the Melta Bomb, grab a HB and throw 5 req into the pot.

What do you think folks?

Hang onto the Melta. Something to crack open something heavy is never lost. Worst case scenario i got to drop something. And our Techmarine isnt done yet. Who knows what he has in store for us.

Okey dokey. Should be interesting since Space Wolves don't usually get their mitts on heavy weapons until they're old fogeys.

I was looking at Erebus with Signature Wargear - Heavy Flamer or Heavy Bolter and if he took the Flamer I was going to put xp into Cleanse and Purify.

We could go for flamers. 3 Flamers are nasty enough but it means we'll be up close and personal all the time.

We could grab a cheesy name like "Xeno BBQ"

While we are good up close and personal having some ranged death never hurts so I'll run with the Heavy Bolter.

DAKKA!!! DAKKAAAA!!!!

We never picked a leader or took an oath...

You can do that now or after the first battle.

Makes sense as we didn't have time to do so. Lets stumble about a little and once we have a little respite deal with that.

Also is Erbus with us or the homing beacon we landed on?

Unless I’m mistaken yeah I’m in an additional pod that came down and you get to meet him when he pops out.

You're all together.

From the look of things, I think that Hrothgar is the best choice for squad leader from a mechanical perspective. He has 4 Fellowship bonus, wears armour with a history of Leading form the Front, and as a Tactical has Command, and meaning you would have 6 Cohesion.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:04, Mon 11 June 2018.

I was going to suggest him myself.

Any thoughts on the Oath?

Wow, no pressure then :D

If I lead there's Oath of the wolf king to reduce cohesion costs of squad attack patterns. Sticking with the cohesion theme, Astartes gives us +2 cohesion or Loyalty for bonuses to cohesion tests. We also have Glory for bonus renown or Emperor for +10 to WP tests. All these also have alternates to Tac marines if someone else is voted in and two other oaths that Tacticals don't get to touch, not to mention the other chapter ones from First Founding.

Since we appear to be taking on the 'nids, I think we're likely to be facing more than a few hordes so my vote is for a cohesion type oath.

Well i was planning to make Hrothgar our chineese volunteer ;-)

As i somehow never ended up in squad mode and doing cohesion stuff i have no idea anymore how that works and got to read up on that.

Why do you have a wolf?

Companions.  They cost XP to have and do their thing with you.  Fenrisian Wolves are 1500xp if I remember correctly so normally people can't get them at creation but the extra 500 you gave us made the difference.

Bout right Hrothgar?

Yup, thats exactly right.

I say cohesion oath.

Yeah, you can move around inside the barricade as a half action.

From the front lines of the barricade, you're in the Medium range band for attacking the Rebels in general. Long range to shoot the heavy weapons team.

Barely seems structural, you say? Would a Krak grenade on a load bearing wall or support column make the machine gun nest 'none structural'?

So getting on top of the Chimera is a half action?

And is long range for any weapon? Opening with a Pushes Smite and summoning a demon as first combat action is something that has to be tried right ;-)

The range bands are the same regardless, but some weapons have a longer effective range. Your bolters can reach long-range, but your bolt pistols can only reach to medium range.

I'm supposed to make you role intelligence to determine whether or not the structure can be destroyed with an explosion, but I don't want to bother. Yes, especially powerful explosive placed properly could knock down the entire structure that the heavy weapons team is on.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:44, Wed 13 June 2018.

Right so its not weapon long range but just far away kinda long range? As i thought long range was anything behind 2x my weapons range.

That's correct. You're not incurring any penalties if you shoot at them from the top of the Chimera or anywhere else behind the barricade.

Especially powerful explosive? I'm guessing a Krak grenade won't cut it. In that case, if no one objects I'll break out the Melta Bomb.

Working on a post now, as can be seen from my crappy initiative roll *facepalm*. Have to go to work now, but if it stays that word beginning with 'Q' that we don't say, I should be able to get it done while I'm at work.

I'm going to say that a crock grenade would be able to work if it's placed just right. If you can throw it really precisely at the perfect location, that would be fine. A melta would be easier to place for effect.

Incidentally, anyone attempting to Rally the PDF soldiers should make a fellowship test. If you can come up with anyting particularly poignant or stirring to say, rather than just shouting the traditional Battle Cry, you get + 20.

We butcher our enemies in silence. Is that battle cry enough? Gotta go work now and save my other half turn for whatever the captain decides we do.

I don't think you'll need to rush out there and use a Krak on the spire.  Since I didn't go with the Heavy Flamer I do have a Heavy Bolter that is quite capable of thrashing the top of it and the weapons teams.  You can focus on rallying the PDF and dealing with other enemies while I rake the mob up there soon enough.

Edit:

Kyros when you get to the dice roller and go to the special dice/game system just scroll all the way up till you get to the first entry which is a blank line.  Select that and you can roll normal dice to your hearts desire.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:43, Wed 13 June 2018.

There is a sous vide joke in there somewhere...will have ruminate on this further :D

I was thinking use the HB to suppress the stunner nest while I Melta/Krak it into oblivion. Kyros can teach the big galoot the error of his ways while Kestyr & Arkio work on snuffing out any enemy commanders in as spectacular fashion as possible. I'm hoping this approach will hit the rebels right in the morale.

Fair enough.  If you just want suppression fire this round I can still change my post and shift it over to move and suppression fire...one of my armour histories is Bring Death From Afar so my HB is considered a Basic Weapon for moving and shooting purposes.

How does that sound to you guys? I'm not looking to railroad anyone or anything  like that.

As for my role I've got no problem with it.  I was going to either gun them down directly or suppression fire them anyhow.  One over the other doesn't matter to me.

I'm coming in here from OW, so apologies in advance if I screw up any mechanics.

Quick question on grenades: in vanilla they have a range of SBx3 (9m for a usual human), so for an average Space Marine in power armor the range is 30m (4 base SB x2 for Unnatural and +2 from armor = 10 effective SB) which is about the same as a shotgun.  From what I recall grenades are Short weapons in FFG, but given the above can we (as Astartes badasses) consider them to be have Medium range?
This message was last edited by the player at 17:04, Wed 13 June 2018.

I guess those ranges come fro OW then as thats the only game i havent played and you keep bringing em up as something else as the weapon range.

and cant the HB take the team out much better then surpressing them? Mow em down and then get other targets.

My Smite has a range of 30 meters and i guess my psychic heavy flamer has too so imma gonna have to get up close and personal so im all in favor of the sharks do their silent killing while one of you takes care of the morale deal.

Well...

My BS is a 38 and Full-auto (the only option for a HB) is a -10 giving me a whopping 28 to score hits (if they are a mob) or strike individuals (if they are treated as individuals).  Suppression Fire simply works as long as it doesn't jam -and- if you roll well enough causes hits too.

Not sure what you're referring to.  OW uses the same crunchiness as DW only taken to the next level, but the stats are very similar.  From pages 145 and 150 in the core DW rulebook:
Table 5-5 Astartes Shotgun, range of 30m
Table 5-6 Astartes frag grenade, range of SBx3

My understanding is that we're using FFG Star Wars-style narrative range brackets in this game (as stated in the rules thread), so I'm just trying to figure out the conversion.  Medium range is described as "Most reliable pistols can reach this far" and three of the more common pistols (bolt, auto, las) have a range of 30m, so I figure any weapon with a range of 30m should be treated as having a Medium range.  Rather convenient that your average 41 Str Space Marine would also have a throwing range of 30m, but such is game design.  Maybe we could use the following model for weapon ranges:
<15m is Short
<50m is Medium
<100m is Long
everything else would be Extremely Long; since that's almost(?) exclusively heavies, launchers and snipers, I think that's reasonable

I guess there's also the question of whether we get the same to-hit bonuses for targets in the Short range band and penalties for Long and Extremely Long.  We get it for PB/engaged, but I didn't see anything for the others.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:36, Wed 13 June 2018.

It will never be an easy feeling conversion cause the systems are too different from each other in that regard and you can't at all use real ranges as estimations for range bands.

A Sniper Rifle's short range covers all of those distance equations.

Nor will it be an easy movement blend over.  It takes 3.5 turns to go from Point Blank to Extreme range.  About 18 seconds.  An 18 second 100 meter run is 8.5 seconds slower than Usain Bolt and Astartes are supposed to be better than the best humans...especially physically.  Neither can you base ranges on a sniper rifle cause I did the math on that one too and if you take 18 seconds to go from PB to Extreme of a Sniper Rifle that's running at about 75 mph on a snap.

Heh i missed those whole range brackets posts under the char sheet. Strange as i saw the shooting one.

Weapon range bands are meant to represent the maximum effective range (these are objective, not subjective per weapon), so if you want to go super crunchy multiply the distances by 4.  I'm just presenting the weapon range numbers from the rulebook to make it easier to judge without complicating things too much.

Consider the following examples:
Flamer has a range of 10m, so its maximum range is the Short range band.
Shotgun has a range of 30m, so its maximum range is the Medium range band.
Bolter has a range of 100m, so its maximum range is the Long range band.
Stalker-class bolter has a range of 200m, so its maximum range is the Extreme range band.

I've only played a bit of FFG SW, but I believe rounds are also narrative so we won't necessarily be working on a 6-second round, either.  I don't have an inherent problem with this as it should give the scenes a more cinematic feel without disrupting the core combat mechanic.  Movement I'm still waffling on.

What does everybody think about Kestyr's assessment of ranges? Should we use those?

I ran Star Wars from FFG for awhile, and I liked the bands system, but at the same time, that was built for their dice system.  It might have difficulty transferring over to other systems.

By taking Kestyr's range, it's a good compromise I think and can make this go quicker maybe.

Long-range weapons get nerfed a bit in the band system if we're basing bonuses/penalties to-hit solely off distance to target instead of distance vs weapon range.  That being said, if we don't have to worry about ammo capacity it might be a fair trade (increased time to kill vs less time reloading).  We can always adjust later if it feels like things aren't working as intended.

I'm willing to work with whatever.

I don't know if the melding of the two systems will work well having played in both but like Kestyr mentioned we can always adjust or drop it all if things aren't working well.

OK so it was pointed out to me that the heavy weapons team should have had to risk being pinned. I rolled their WP and they're pinned. That means that their attack on Erebus should have missed.

Hrothgar shouldn't you make a fellowship test (+20 for a catchy rally cry may i suggest: "Do not fear Space fish are here!!")

You are the one interacting with these people so i'd say you boost their morale while we go killing their enemies. We don't want these guys breaking on us due to low morale do we?

Im okay to give the range bands a go. Can you toss those range increments and explanation posted into the rules thread for easy reference?

Quick request: can we have "Record each die" turned on by default?

+1

I tried, but couldn't think of anything suitable when I'd finished work. It was not a quiet shift. I'll have another go once I've finished flash-frying the heavy weapon emplacement.

Speaking of which, how many turns do I need to keep up the running for? If it's a few, would using Burst of Speed be any use?

Sorry, I thought I did that configuration.

You don't have to run anymore, you're there.

Very cool description!

I have one question, Kestyr was attacked by a Xenos is he down?

Do they 2d10+12 pen 10 damage or 2d10 drop lowest one? The first is quite nasty indeed. Then again stealers are marine eaters.

Can we all charge it?

Kyros probably won't...I don't know if he sees it, and he has a horde in front of him that just basically crapped themselves, that's hard to pass up.

If Erebus can shout a warning or something since he has the higher initiative over Kyros then I can see him join that fight.

I'm pretty sure it's 2D 10 without dropping one. I know, it's very high. That armor penetration is especially fierce. I think you're right in your assessment that a genestealer is a real threat to a Space

The Auran Genesstealer has 1d10+14 Tearing which would mean 2d10 drop lowest 1. In the Emperor Protects.



Purestrain from mark of Xenos is a weak sissy.

I got the stats for Genestealer from the Final Sanction book. They might have meant 1d10 Tearing and just not finished writing it. Do you guys want to do it that way?

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IIRC, from an old table top game 'stealers have a nasty perk that increases their pen if they whack you hard enough.

That's the Razor Sharp trait.  Get 2+ degrees of success and the Pen doubles.

Pure Strain's also have the option of having toxin sacs so there is the possibility of d10 additional unsoakable wounds if you fail your T test.

Edit...

As for the Final Sanction Genestealers while I've never gotten through the entire module...this fight is as far as any of the half dozen other games I've played in got...I think they are just another variation/mutation of 'stealer.  They certainly never Errata'd it in the few times they updated the Deathwatch Living Errata anyhow.  Extra damage dice, no tearing and has the Razor Sharp trait that in the module is called Special and noted later in the block.

Course it's one hit so all Kestyr would need to do is succeed at a dodge or parry and it's all avoided.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:31, Sat 16 June 2018.

I think the boss rolled a dodge or parry on his behalf. Unless Kestyr spends a FP to try a re-roll.

Edit: BTW, I'm thinking Oath of the Astartes for +2 cohesion, any objections?
This message was last edited by the player at 18:47, Sat 16 June 2018.

I didn't role Parry on his behalf, I don't roll Dodge or Parry for you guys.

Ah, my bad. I saw a roll on behalf of Kestyr & thought it was a pre-emptive parry/dodge to keep things flowing.

That was awareness. Turns out those genestealers are sneaky little critters.

If your stealers do 2d10 thats fine though tearing is less damage so more survivable. The damage just didn'gt match up to the Stealers i send out to eat my players ;-) Just means Stealers are really bad news not just 'bad news' and most 2d10 damage stuff usually is tearing based was why i asked.

I'll admit I'm tempted to sic the pooch on it, but I don't see that ending any other way than me having a spare wolf pelt cloak.

I'll take those over Purestrain any day.

These only have (1) attack.  The others have Lightning Attack so while it's less damage, potentially, in a single strike those can hit you like five or six times.

Alright then. How does this sound guys?

If Kyros goes to help Kestyr whup the 'stealer, that leaves Erebus to lay some hurt on the rebel horde & me to try to fire up the PDF.

I don't know what powers Arkio has, so I'm not sure if he's better at crowd control or if he can go all River Tam on the 'stealer and kill it with his brain.

Kyros will head there immediately, once he hears about it, Erebus call 'em out!

Called out.

Tried to rally the troops since everyone else has been busy elsewhere but failed his speech and failed to even hit the mob.  Hopefully I took the bad rolls for you to get good ones ;)

I would accede that those speeches deserve the bonus. Erebus elegantly worked an agricultural metaphor in, which as residents of an agri-world these people will surely appreciate. Hrothgar drew attention to the fearsome xeno, which all right-minded citizens of the Imperium are taught to hate and fear. Alas.

Yeah, I can't help but think that by doing that I've given them all a good reason to beat feet. :D

I tried to be clever with that speech but the dice roller wasn't having any of it.

My Awareness check should have been TN 60 once you add in the Autosenses, not 40 (assuming that's the TN 40 one in the roller), would that have made a difference?
This message was last edited by the player at 06:11, Sun 17 June 2018.

Area Psy powers (Heavy Flamer like and Blast Psy Smite)

Next to that im not to shabby with my force sword but i guess a 4 way on the Genestealer should be enough abuse so ill fry some mobs.

Your awareness would have beat it in a straight-up contest, but you were currently covered with humans crawling all over you, which would have blocked your auto senses a bit. So I applied a penalty.

If only PDF troopers had a commissar with them :D

I am not against gunning down an officer that orders the retreat! Such heretical behaviour is unvcalled for!

I'm going to try to post something today...my creative juices have dried up the last couple of days.

Creative? This is the part of the game where you can let your destructive juices flow :D

Me rite gud :P

Sounds fine to me. I got the general gist of what you were trying to say.

Welp, there goes 17 of my 22 wounds.  At least the beastie doesn't have Felling.

Edit: ...and unless we get a Ganging Up bonus, there goes my followup attack
This message was last edited by the player at 18:11, Mon 18 June 2018.

What you need is an apothe...oh, crap.

Edit: Almost forgot, for Sharky & George. There's a couple of Carcharodon based novels out, though I might be a bit late to that party. Thought you might want to take a look for fluff & insight purposes.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:26, Mon 18 June 2018.

How much time would it take to search for other genestealers?  I'd like to hit a horde, but not if more of the Steelers show up.the

You can make an awareness check as a free action.

What's the to-hit bonus against the horde I'm in?

Sorry, meant to correct this to your benefit, kept forgetting. The bonus to hit of both of the hordes is plus 30.

Mechanics wise what was more damaging SMite or the flamer? Smite nets a blast equalt to my psy rating right?

Psy attacks are Psy Rating +1d10.

That’s straight from the book ;-)

Yes, I was just realizing my answer should have had more detail. Thank you Erebus, +1 purity seal.

Anytime boss. :)

Thinking I should probably just be lobbing frags at these mooks.  That's something like 6 hits, I think?

In reply to Kestyr (msg # 225):

Melee does 1 extra hit per 2 dos. Frag does 5.

Didn't you also have a flamer? Burn them thats good stuff and auto hits.

Nope, just the standard bolter.  Spent my req on medicae equipment, mostly.

Frags are 5 hits from the Blast (5) rating and one additional hit from the Explosive damage type, IIRC.  Will probably switch to that next round.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:26, Wed 20 June 2018.

Oh yeah explosive.

Shouldn't you spend some time fixing them wounds first? You look like a genestealer had you for lunch ;-)

If we don't make a dent in the rebels this round, squad mode & Bolter assault?

Out of curiosity, did anyone pick up the Wrath and Glory free adventure and rules packet last Saturday on Free RPG day?

It's interesting...but I have to say I'm not too big on the type of dice pool system (or dice pools in general) but this especially since it uses D6s.

Nope. To be honest I didn't even know there was a free RPG day.

Free RPG Day would explain the bevy of emails I got from DriveThruRPG.  I suppose I should have read some of them.

Bah!  I knew I should have used Killing Strike!

I'm not supposed to tell you this, but one of the Renown reward objectives is 'Killed a Genestealer single-handedly (applies once).'

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When you say single-handedly, do you mean using your left hand? ;)

Nah, the boss means assault marines & crazy kilt wearers have to punch them to death. Without power fists. :D

I just saw there's a sequel to final sanction too. More stuff me to avoid reading in case we survive & succeed here.

Just say the word. Wanna have a solo go at it? Ill just pop rounds in traitors back for cinematic effect in that case.

Kestyr's already killed a genestealer single handed.

Its not applied to everyone killing a genestealer on its own once?

I thought Kyros killed the other one too? Figured he was just being greedy now :D

Sorry, wrong person. Yes.

Then that one wasn't soloed as our medic hugged that one too.

Before I go doing something totally ridiculous (not unusual for me, I know), am I right in thinking all the rebels are scarpering now & there's just the 'stealer to worry about?

Correct, yes. The surviving rebels are fleeing before your mighty visages like heretics from an Astartes.

Wait.

So is everyone just sitting back and letting Kyros have this one? It's probably the best possible time to do so, I'm just asking.

Yeah, I just need to heal up and I've been too lazy to look up the rules on it.

Depending on how this next round goes, it could well be a short fight.  Hopefully it misses all its attacks and I'll get the fate point back I spent so I could at least parry it once.

IIRC you heal 1d5+int and theres a talent or piece of gear that can double it.

And i am planning to charge in and assist but thats mostly cause im not a glory whore but want to kill the enemy asap. Hance why i asked ooc if Kyros wants to have a go at it he can. If the next round goes bad i'll be coming to the rescue as i already set myself up for a charge.

When I get chance to IC it, I'll be spending this round taking aim at Kyros the 'stealer in case it goes badly for our slice & dicer.

The PDF could do with seeing a good win.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:12, Sat 23 June 2018.

Kyros wouldn't have a problem with getting assistance, and not just because he may desperately need it.  Kyros is about practicality and killing the enemy.  Honor duels, even hating the enemy is a bit strange to him.

Right we are on the same page then. We aint in it for the glory. Let me charge to aid you.

Did anyone pick up an Auspex for that Aliens vibe? I forgot if we did & can't seem to find it in the OOC anywhere.

Not I.

Did we have any leftover group req?

I think we had 18, plus any Erebus had left over.

That should be more than enough for an auspex, methinks.  And extra underwear.

Kestyr wears underwear?

Yeah thats gross isnt it. It prevends all the nutrient recycling and just starts to smell.

And no we never completed te requisition bit. Erebus never shared his and then we where going down. Auspex for the techie sounds like a good one though.

I never said I *wore* it.  It's just handy in case you need it...like duct tape.

Im sure theres a kilt joke in there somewhere.

I'll hold off on posting again until everyone else has had a chance. Volunteers for omophagea use if the rebels scum refuse to talk? :D

Auspex is 12 req, incidentally, so we should have plenty to pick one up for the squad.

Ok, unless someone bought it with XP or I'm mistaken. Erebus is probably the only one of us with the Tech Use skill, so if he's willing it makes sense for him to have the Auspex.

I plan on asking this IC too, but astropath first, then come back to this district to clear out the spaceport, supply dump & base? If we don't get the message sent in time the rest becomes pointless once the 'nids show up in numbers.

Or, sort the spaceport, supply dump & PDF base while we're in this district, then go to the astropath? That might stop the rebels taking those areas whilst we're busy elsewhere. Either way, I figure we've a decent chance of finding someone to interrogate or drawing the Broodlord out by interfering with its nefarious schemes.

Astropath first. Then i think we need to take out the brood lord as thats the driving force behind the rebels and the Inquisitor might be working in that area and finding her is our main objective. After that we can go for 'choice' targets.

I thought that too, but we don't know where the Broodlord is yet. I was thinking if we smack the rebels around a bit we might find a high ranker to question, or the Broodlord might come to us to return the favour.

Was I too oblique with the tarot? I can be a little clearer if you want.

Hit the Astropath first IMO.  If we don't get to her in time, we can't get her back, there is no substitute.  Certainly hit targets of opportunity on the way.

Well, that's 8 wounds healed...too bad this system doesn't give bonus healing for DoS

Well i as a player was glad the conclusion was put in the end. But thats cause i suck at those mystic things. Way i interpret it now is the Inquisitor or this assasin is gonna put a nasty knife in our back ;-)

We need to hammer some things out, post battle stuff and all that.

In retrospect, I should have named my Characharodon Bruce.  ;)

Omg first battle has astartes drama. The eye of terror is rolling.

It's what Days of our lives needs to be cool.

So you guys are heading to the Rich People District, using stealth?

I think that's the plan. In our oh-so sneaky giant suits of power armour :D

I'll try to post later today, on late shifts this weekend & yesterday went a bit wrong.

Yup its hard to notice some giants casually walking down the street

Remember, if we can't see them they can't see us

It's true that you guys are about as subtle as a rap album produced by Liberace.

Sorry about my own slow.

Work has locked down casual access during breaks so all I have is my phone essentially till the weekends which isn’t great for posting.  Will read up and catch up tonight.

Ordinary navigate surface to find another way in.

Cool. I vote Arkio & his magic map make the roll.

09:51, Today: Brother Arkio rolled 35 -- 2 degrees of success using the Warhammer Test system with a target number of 63.  Int Navigate 43 +10 Forsight +10 Carto.

Is there a roll to be made to know IC these people are hollow ones? As all i got IC now is the warp shadow the tyranids bring to a planet ;-)

In reply to Brother Arkio (msg # 281):

I don't know what those are, but I'm pretty sure the answer is no.

Dem people that are invisible to psykers. But that sort of answers my question already ;-)

You're thinking of blanks.  A concentration of them this large would be a pretty nifty asset to have, but I'm pretty sure in the best of 40k tradition you'd only find that if they were scantily-clad warrior-women.

Maybe our Space Puppy can Carouse with them? :D

Alas, they are not blanks. They are mind-scrubbed to be the perfect guardians of psykers.

I realize it's going to be a little way until the end of the adventure, but I would like to start planning the next adventure now so I have plenty of time. I was planning to move directly into the second part of this adventure, which I believe is called oblivion's Edge. However, that seems like a lot of tyranid all at once, so I thought it might be fun to have a sort of intermission out of chronological order. If you guys are tired of tyranid by then, what would you want to face instead? Tau, chaos, eldar, orks?

Orks is da Bestest!

Red wuns is fastest!

I'm ok with jumping straight into more Tyranid whipping, but I ain't here to rock the boat so I'm happy to go with the majority.

Nature of pbp means it might drag to long and you loose the story. So in that light id say finish it.

If i got to pick. Never faced orks in any of my games so that might be fun.

Since I'm coming from an OW background I've nearly had my fill of 'nids and Orkz (not that I mind too much...).  Never fought Tau in any of the FFG systems before so I'd be curious about giving them a whirl.

Whirl, of course, meaning CQC because while beating Tau in melee is not something you should be bragging about, it is *fun*

Need to act soon, Kyros does not like being forced into a box.  I'll hold for now.

Waiting for the wolf. Cause this man making us liars feels like its asking for a good pummeling.

Yeah, our Apothecary was severely wounded by a Genestealer, I have its blood on my chainsword...oh and the ship we were on was destroyed by the Tyranids.

Kyros is near to flipping his lid and killing everyone not in the Deathwatch.

If you haven't rolled Awareness yet (sight & hearing), now is a good time. Also roll Initiative.

Looks like I'm scrapping without a lid. What could possibly go wrong? :D

Should I make another check in addition to my stinky sense one, or just use that for all three senses?

All the senses are combined into one Awareness roll.

I'll roll both and edit them into my last reply.

In reply to Jericho Reach (msg # 296):

Ah. In that case I fluffed my first roll, but got a re-roll on smell only because of the Wolf-Senses solo mode ability.

I'll roll initiative & edit it into my post shortly.

Edited it into my post.

Oh, I forgot to say:

The room is packed with non-combatant humans. If you want to take the extra effort to pick clean shots, it is harder to aim at the enemy. Single-shot BS attacks are made with -10. Semi-auto and full auto are made at -20. If you ignore the civillians and fire through them, no penalty accrues.

Should have brought a !!flamer!! :P

Damn, that's gonna suck when the Heavy Bolter winds up.

Hmmm, is anyone else getting the impression the Heavy Bolter may not wind up after all?

Yeah, I doubt he's still here.  Should we try to get new people joining?

I rolled a reaction to parry in my last post, will that count against the one that just attacked me?

Isn't i usual that we roll parries/dodges in our turn after? The small blessing of PBP that lets us pick what attack to parry dodge?

Right as i was between the first stealer and the govenor where am i iin relation to him now? And if he is to far away to hit the thing on his chest can i flame it of without hitting the govenor?

You can roll before or after, either way is fine. If you roll before, you can still apply the result to the next attack that comes your way.

Arkio, you are a few metres away from the governor and his new hug friend.

Remember folks, a flame grilled governor is no use to us. Except maybe as a tasty emergency snack.

As long as we have his head and Puppetry trained I think we should be fine :P

Astartes Puppetry:

"Hello, Governor!"

"Why hello, my lord! Are you feeling thirsty? Why don't you drink some of your reclaimed pee while I sing a hymn of praise to the primarchs?"

I just got a mental impression of some sort of gruesome Statler & Waldorf type scene, as we try to bluff our way past the hollow guard with what's left of the governor.

Considering how big power armor is these days, it might not be such a stretch.  Hell, you might not even need a curtain to hide the puppeteer.

Well if someone can kill that thing on the govenor i don't have to abandon this genestealer trying to eat my liver.

I can go for it, but without a dose of RF I doubt I can one hit kill it. Unless its already injured, that is.

I can join you if you need it.  Do we get the ganging up bonus in this system?

We get +10 for ganging up, and there's a talent that gives a further +10. I could also hit the squad mode button & try to share Tooth and Nail, but I wouldn't fancy the chances of success.

From the 28th till the 8th ill be camping. Net access will be sketchy to non existent and i probably will only have my phone to access it. So might become sparse for a bit.

These damn things are tough. I can see why a horde of them would give marines in terminator armour problems.

My forgetting to add the bonus for Balanced to my parries won't help either. Good job I failed both by a good margin.

Yeah they are nasty. They outrun he tin cans easily and with a little luck ignore the armor on a hit.

Would like everyone to get their combat post in please.

Without wanting to be the voice of doom, are there plans to NPC Erebus then have him assigned to a different watch station after this mission?

I was hoping to get to the end of the first 'session' to give him a chance to rejoin. I usually give people a month.

Seems fair enough. Even when work & home go bonkers I can find time in a month to post.

Couldn't figure out a way to work this into the text, but there is some sort of leader at the forefront of each mob.

What are the mobs composed of?

Just lightly-armed & armoured rebels, like before.

How far away are they?  Basically need to see if I can reach one this round with a jump pack charge.  If not, I'll get hyped up and then dive in.

You could, if you wanted to, reach one of the Southern ones with a jump pack jump.

Sorry the unreliable net was no net at all mostly cause my water proof phone drowned. Back now though.

Welcome back Arkio. Are we thinking squad mode & Bolter Assault attack pattern?

Since you saw them coming, I suppose you can prepare Fury in the round before battle begins.

So Kyros can enter frenzy and squad mode this round?  Or would he be able to enter it before he rolled initiative?  If so I'll have him charge now.  What's the magnitude bonus for the one he can reach?

You may choose to begin having completed a round of rage preparation.

The magnitude bonus of all three hordes is +30. Add 30 to all your attacks to hit the hordes.

So we can assume we are in squad mode everyone? Or people still want to go solo? Never really managed to get to a point where we went into squad mode so actually got to read up on the rules.

Same here...I'll just say "sure, why not" and go read up on it.

I like the sound of this. Should we send Erebus up high to cause havoc with the Heavy Bolter, or are we saying he isn't here?

I think at this point we're assuming Erebus is not going to play with us again. Depending on how this Mission goes, we can ask for more people after it's done.

Maybe ask for a player willing to take over Erberus? Im in a BC game that might have interested people.

Sure, let them serve the Emperor for a change.

Edited my post to reflect we are already in squad mode and doing bolter assault.

11 Horde damage. Guess thats one scary psyker falling upon them. ;-)

OK, so I've finally had a chance to re-read the rules on squad mode.  Is there any penalty to attempting to take the cohesion test and failing?  It sounds like there isn't one, since you'd be burning a full round anyway to avoid the test.

Sorry, started my new job this week & not had as much downtime as I thought I would.

You can make a cohesion check to enter Squad Mode, then if successful act as normal. If you flub the roll, you spend that round entering Squad Mode.

Is there a reason to not take the check?  Seems like it takes a full round to do so anyway if you choose not to.

Not that I can tell, unless there's something in the errata that I've missed.

But the GM said we had enough prep time to enter it and do a turn so that point is moot right? We entered squad mode and are dishing out the hurt proper.

Looks that way, apart from my missing that wounded rebel officer. I'm keeping trank of our cohesion on my sheet, we have 3 left.
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So only one horde remains right? And a poor few leaders that are about to be shark food.

I think there's two left, one in a stalemate with the Hollow Guard and one that Kyros is carving his way through.

Right, those two.

How far are we from the hollow guard now? somehow your post makes it feel like we traveled a massive distance.

And can i smite the enemy without frying the hollow guard?

You're about 2 or 3 hundred away from the nearest Hollow guard. That's a hop and a step for a Space Marine.

So with our turns i can get into short range?

And can i Smite em without hitting friendlies?

Yes and yes.

So with melee damage and a hoard, is it an extra hit for every two hits past the 1st?  Or is it an extra hit for every two hits period?

So for example, in my latest attack I counted it as 1 hit for every two degrees, I got 7 DoS that would be 3 hits.  But if it was an extra hit for every 2 DoS past the first, I would have four hits on the Hoard; 1 for the initial success, and then 3 more for 6 DoS after the 1st.

You get one for the initial hit and then for every 2 dos.

So 7 DoS is 4 hits. Also dont forget the warhammer test calculates simple success and only after the first whole 10 over a number its 1 dos.

Ok so then the magnitude damage would be one higher.  Thanks.

No the dice system calculates it correctly. So if it reads 2 DoS you actually got those 2 DoS for DoS needs.

They made it a littlem ore sensible since Black crusade.

Going to be on vacation from 9-1 to 9-15, so be gentle while I'm gone :)

(and apologies to those who have read this what, three or four times already?)

Sorry for the delay guys. I'm Wi-Fi-less at the moment and ran out of data on my phone.

I'll be on vacation too, but might have limited access.

Can't make a decent post right now, but someone more in control might want to intervene and save that poor soldier's hand or life.

We had another volunteer to join the game find this game without any sort of solicitation on my part. How do you people keep finding my games? Anyway, we were chatting about how to create a scout Marine.

How I found it was my Black Crusade game tanked and I like the FFG 40K RPG so I searched. I recognized you from another game, and, "Ta-Da!" here I am.

As for a scout - the basic tactical profile works well. Invest in Survival and Stealth...

I'd suggested in PM to have his Black Carapace missing or incomplete but we've opted out of that in favor of Scout Armor, scout weapon and maybe cameoline or some other scout war gear.

waitaminit, not a space puppy?  such heresy! ;)

Also, welcome aboard!
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Sounds good to me.

Welcome to the team, proby :D

Red Scorpion scouts are their probies, right?
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No, not a Space Wolf. I was selected for the CLEANLINESS of my stock a the purity of my geneseed. Other than that I believe the Watch Master had his eye on a Raptor. Something about actually scouting rather trying to fight Hive Tyrants with boot knives to settle bets? Couldn't make heads or tails of it myself.

What do you guys think of hunting down some rebel scum officers in Magistria? Possible intel sources and we might meet a wandering Red Scorpion scout there, you never know.

I was thinking we could retcon in our new player as one of the inquisitors retinue, aside from Syndralla the assassin.

Works for me.

Swap him out with the tech marine. Sort of been there all the time. Just make sure he takes a heavy bolter ;-)

That works for me too.

Cool. So proceed, and we'll drop him in somewhere.

Ooh... a drop pod? Can I NOT wear scout armor for that?

Nah, you're already there. Hunting genestealers or something else Space-Marine-like.

I was sort of waiting for Hrotgar to do soemthing leaderly like eciding what to do now.

Hrothgar suggested a course of action, I just kinda forgot to opine on it.

Yes, let's a-go head huntin'

Yup, I suggested a spot of rebel leader kidnap & interrogation. Didn't wanna post IC unless everyone was happy with it, in case they had better ideas.

In the interest of keeping things moving, I will spoil this. There are no more rebels in this District.

Well i am all in favor of hunting down the broodlord now which was the plan from the start to do after this right? The soldiers here can weed out their own Rebels anyhow.

I thought we'd gone to Magistria now?

You are in the Magistria district, which is where the governor's mansion and the House of Echoes is. The adjacent district is the Calistria district, which is also the centre of the fighting between the PDF and the rebels. You need to pass through the calistria district before you can get anywhere else in the city.

Ah, my bad. Got my districts mixed up.

I have the advantage of having read the module a dozen times trying to keep it straight.

Either way we need to snuff the rebellion so we can start a proper defense. Lets tackle that distric while we are at it.

Yup, a-hunting we shall go.

Have we seen much proof that the Xenos are working with the rebels yet?  Or are they taking advantage of the chaos the rebels are causing but not connected?  I'm just wondering that, it seems we're not really following the clue that the Astropath gave us.

Proof that they are allied? Not much, so far. There were those genestealers fighting beside the rebels at the chapel, but genestealers are so stealthy the rebels might not have noticed. You can roll Xenos knowledge to learn more.

I thought you guys might want to confiscate the chimeras and and roll down the streets two miles an hour so everybody sees you purging Heretics.

So long as we have some sick beats for the ride, sure :)

My 90 Xenos Lore tells me these genestealers absolutely have nothing to do with rebellios genestealer cults.

And in the current state will the Chimera not slow us down? As an Astartes im certain we walk at least 8 miles an hour.

I didn't think you could even fit an Astartes in a Chimera without opening the top.

The next module has them available to you, so Deathwatch rpg must consider them a viable choice.

You don't need it for speed, just as armour or a weapons platform or other uses.

I'm cool with that, gives a bit of a Strolling Through Ultramar feel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-istquWjZ8M

Oh, I should say: I'm leaving the details of the geography vague to allow you to fill them in in the flavour of your moves. Things like how big rooms are or what sort of trenches are there, that sort of thing.

Let's have initiative and first actions, except from Kubra who has already given his.

Initiatives? Shouldn't we just drop those? Not like they really work in pbp.

And stop killing stuff Kubra we are still in the planning stage ;-)

I'm not killing stuff - OK, well I am but not just 'cause. When that grenade goes off you'll be able to saunter over here like a Commissar on parade day.

Initiative works perfectly well PBP, just think of it as "order in which actions are resolved" rather than "order in which we get to be bored waiting for the other players to go"

How far away are we from the shopping center?

120 or so meters at a guess. They have heavy stubbers but aren't hosing the wall, so it's probably at about range. JR said he's not worrying too much about specifics, so "just outside effective heavy stubber range" seems a good bet. Depending on the version of the the rules you use it's 100 or 120 meters.

JR told you that you can see me watching the 'nid. So if the rebels start shooting at it (and I certainly hope they do) you will definitely see muzzle flashes and hear my grenade go off.

Well, if Kubra is dropping frags already, there goes my plan of slipping through the buildings like spectres of death leaving nothing but corpses in our wake. Looks like he's gonna fit right in.

If the Chimeras have smoke, I say let em rip.
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In reply to Hrothgar (msg # 402):

Not yet. Depends on what happens with that genestealer.

You people stop shooting the rebels!! We need them alive to create the first line of defence vs the invasion ;-)

Why would the tyranids create a rebellion that would be an obstacle for them later?