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OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

Posted by Darkside TrooperFor group archive 0
Pilot 3
player, 14 posts
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 17:28
  • msg #36

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

In reply to Pilot 1 (msg # 35):

I think so.

Also believe that there were some rolls to be made on the lifepath, but that seemed like it was going to be truncated a bit.

If I might recommend, a logical nerf regards the proliferation of NJP etc. that seems to crop up with alarming regularity in those charts. (The mid-campaign restart in  the 2020 game was a good illustration of how it got a bit out of hand, laughably so). If not the frequency, at least a nerf on the severity.

Maybe a look at the 'wounded' rolls as well, one player...well, lets just put it this way, they all but ran out of room for multiple award devices on their purple heart...
This message was last edited by the player at 17:40, Mon 12 Mar 2018.
Pilot 1
player, 14 posts
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 17:35
  • msg #37

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

Excessive multiple butt wounds?
Pilot 3
player, 15 posts
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 17:40
  • msg #38

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

In reply to Pilot 1 (msg # 37):

They wish! Only folks that would have more false body parts would be a Hollywood celebrity.
Pilot 1
player, 15 posts
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 17:57
  • msg #39

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

My poor combat controller is missing a few himself.  Shouldn't impair him (much) in completing missions, and gives him a place to hide green spray paint.
Pilot 3
player, 16 posts
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 18:28
  • msg #40

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

In reply to Pilot 1 (msg # 39):

So, in line with the view that if one 'complains' one should at least have a solution, (or possible one). So to that end, maybe a modifier to the 'You Screwed Up' based on characters IQ and Military Etiquette skills. They could reflect the characters ability to avoid committing the infraction in the first place 'This is a really bad idea...', or using the system to avoid getting punished.

Wasn't it Chesty Puller who said 'There is a fine line between a Navy Cross and a courts martial."

If the modifiers aren't enough to make the 'bad man' go away. Then the aforementioned skills could mitigate the severity, for the same set of reasons, using the system to their own benefit, or whatever other fluff explanation you want to derive.

My 2ยข
This message was last edited by the player at 18:32, Mon 12 Mar 2018.
Darkside Trooper
GM, 50 posts
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 19:15
  • msg #41

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

You guys will not be making a lot of rolls. Because it is realtivly pleace time people getting NJPs probably won’t get selected for Veritech trainIng.

We can skip the whole rolling thing and based on years served just give you an experience level.
Pilot 3
player, 17 posts
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 19:22
  • msg #42

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 41):

Roger that.
Pilot 1
player, 16 posts
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 20:26
  • msg #43

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

Darkside Trooper:
You guys will not be making a lot of rolls. Because it is realtivly pleace time people getting NJPs probably won’t get selected for Veritech trainIng.

We can skip the whole rolling thing and based on years served just give you an experience level.



That makes sense.  Later.. it will be count arms and legs...
Darkside Trooper
GM, 56 posts
Wed 14 Mar 2018
at 19:13
  • msg #44

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

So in regards to names.....I don’t really intend for the characters to meet. Sure you may have seen one of the others in a bar but had no interaction with them.

The reason being is because you are all part of different squdrons AND Air groups. There are 3 air groups around/on Macross Island.
1 is the SDF-1 Air Group(s) (there are like 3-4), along with a combination Destroid/infantry regiment
2 is the Macross Island Air Group, along with a Styker Brigade
3 is the Prometheus AirGroup.
4 is the Deadules combined Destroid/infantry regiment that also has help support.

My intent in game is for you three to just get jumbled together as a mixed flight and you’ll end up flying combat without having met your wingmen. I stole this idea from the “Wingman” series of books where the main character was part of a ferry/convoy flight when WWIII broke out and never met his wingmen either.

So your just gonna start out with designation of whichever VT you jump into as your name.
Pilot 2
player, 15 posts
Thu 15 Mar 2018
at 20:51
  • msg #45

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

That sounds like a good plan to me, it will also make sense due to all the chaos and Veritechs being stolen here and there.
Darkside Trooper
GM, 57 posts
Thu 15 Mar 2018
at 21:07
  • msg #46

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

Pilot 2:
That sounds like a good plan to me, it will also make sense due to all the chaos and Veritechs being stolen here and there.

Just your VF-1D that Rick takes off in.....
Pilot 3
player, 31 posts
Thu 15 Mar 2018
at 21:53
  • msg #47

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 46):

Speaking of, can we get a list of Dramatis Personae so we know ranks, and positions/functions of the key folks we would be dealing with, that would be known to us from the get go?

(A universal list, and then maybe a private list for the characters that's specific to them? Maybe just the positions and let us chuck in the names to keep overhead down. Kinda how you handled ground crew in the 2020 game)
This message was last edited by the player at 21:56, Thu 15 Mar 2018.
Pilot 1
player, 26 posts
Thu 15 Mar 2018
at 23:12
  • msg #48

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

Sounds like we may have to find out who survives the initial action, and then discover who fills the gaps!
Pilot 3
player, 32 posts
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 00:07
  • msg #49

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

In reply to Pilot 1 (msg # 48):

That was factored in. Universal list for the ‘main characters’. Is Roy a USN Commander or a whatever. The plugin stuff would be the ‘survivors’ etc.
Darkside Trooper
GM, 58 posts
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 00:50
  • msg #50

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

Yes I will get key NPCs up.
Pilot 2
player, 17 posts
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 14:44
  • msg #51

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

Nice! A thing I have been wondering about is there any stats for all of the ships in the new books? The old ones had the stats of SDF-1, ARMD and even the later had Ikazuchi and so on.
Darkside Trooper
GM, 70 posts
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 15:25
  • msg #52

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

In reply to Pilot 2 (msg # 51):

The Macross Saga source book has stats for the Prometheus, Deadlus, Oberth class missile destroyer, ARMD platform, SDF-1, Breetai’s Flagship and the Zent Cruiser.
Pilot 2
player, 18 posts
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 19:14
  • msg #53

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 52):

Nice, but the newer ships are not mentioned in the other books right? I own the Shadow Chronicles and the none of the larger space craft have any stats, are they perhaps mentioned in the Expeditionary Force Marines?
Darkside Trooper
GM, 71 posts
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 20:22
  • msg #54

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

Pilot 2:
In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 52):

Nice, but the newer ships are not mentioned in the other books right? I own the Shadow Chronicles and the none of the larger space craft have any stats, are they perhaps mentioned in the Expeditionary Force Marines?


Here are what ships are in the 2E books. Remember Palladium will no longer be selling then after march 31st. So if you want a physical copy......

Macross Saga Source book(8x11 size version)
Prometheus
Deadlus
Oberth class missile destroyer
ARMD platform
SDF-1
Breetai’s Flagship
Zent Cruiser.
Quel-Quallie

Shadow Chronicles (Deluxe Edition)
Ikazuchi
Garfish
Horizon-T

Masters Saga Source book (either version)
Tristar
Tirolian Transport
Tirolian Assult Dropship
Master's Mothership.

Genesis Pit Source book
SDF-4
Shimakaze
Darkside Trooper
GM, 75 posts
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 23:57
  • msg #55

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

Let me know what you think of this:

VF-1 Under-wing Ordinance: link to a message in this game
Pilot 3
player, 41 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 00:00
  • msg #56

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 55):

I would define what MER stands for, but beyond that looks good.
Darkside Trooper
GM, 76 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 00:04
  • msg #57

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

Pilot 3:
In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 55):

I would define what MER stands for, but beyond that looks good.

I'll probably do that int he missile section, since I need to find a place to list missile pods now.....
Darkside Trooper
GM, 77 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 05:56
  • msg #58

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

Got some NPC's created. Two have descriptions/bios.

I am using NATO rank codes instead of US Military rank codes. So while Claudia is a USAF Captain/0-3, her NATO rank code is OF-2.
Pilot 1
player, 29 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 14:33
  • msg #59

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 58):

Since UN Spacy is a NATO organization, by all means use NATO ranks!
UN Rank is a bit weird, isn't it?  O-1 includes junior grades like Ensign, Lt-JG, etc.
OF-2 is what a UN officer on loan would wear if they are an O-3 in the US services.
Looks like tOF-1 will likely be the rank our characters may start with... though with the attrition we might go as high as OF-2 or even OF-3.

I would expect the CAG would be an OF-4.  Global should be OF-5, Misa an OF-3 or OF-4.

Interesting.  Going to look at the NPCs!

So excited to do this!
Darkside Trooper
GM, 78 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 15:47
  • msg #60

Re: OOC (Questions? Complaints? Ideas?)

In reply to Pilot 1 (msg # 59):

UN SPACY is a UN organization but it doesn’t  use’UN blueberries’ who have a lackluster performance.

Instead UN nation states chop people/whole commands to the UN SPACY. For example VF-84 Jolly Rodgers (aka Skull squdron).

As you have probably seen some characters have different ranks. This is because of the years of service they have put in. In fact I am going to have to make Roy a bit older.
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