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OOC Chat - 001.

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GM
GM, 4 posts
Thu 3 Jan 2019
at 06:46
  • msg #1

OOC Chat - 001

Remember to say hello!
Thente
player, 1 post
Mon 7 Jan 2019
at 17:28
  • msg #2

OOC Chat - 001

Hello!

I will be your resident outdoorsman sorcerer who may have some Jotun blood flowing through his veins :)

Hoping we can keep this game going and running for a long time!

GM - do you have a preferred character sheet for us to use?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1 post
Mon 7 Jan 2019
at 17:46
  • msg #3

OOC Chat - 001

Ahoy!  I'll be the party's Halfling mother hen/skill monkey, nice to meet you.

I don't know if the DM has a preferred character sheet template, but this is the one I always use for ease of visibility and editing.




  Basic Information 


  Name        :                     Height :
  Race        :                     Weight :
  Background  :                     Age    :
  Class       :                     Eyes   :
  Alignment   :                     Hair   :
  Deity       :                     Size   :
  Total Level : 1                   Speed  :
  Experience: : 0/300

  Ability Scores 


  Strength     : 00 (+0)     00 + 0 racial + 0 misc
  Dexterity    : 00 (+0)     00 + 0 racial + 0 misc
  Constitution : 00 (+0)     00 + 0 racial + 0 misc
  Intelligence : 00 (+0)     00 + 0 racial + 0 misc
  Wisdom       : 00 (+0)     00 + 0 racial + 0 misc
  Charisma     : 00 (+0)     00 + 0 racial + 0 misc

  Skills and Languages 


  [R] Denotes skill proficiency from racial abilities
  [B] Denotes skill proficiency from background
  [C] Denotes skill proficiency from class abilities

  Proficient Skills                                     

  Non-Proficient Skills                                 

  [ ] Acrobatics         : +0    0 prof + 0 Dex + 0 misc
  [ ] Animal Handling    : +0    0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 misc
  [ ] Arcana             : +0    0 prof + 0 Int + 0 misc
  [ ] Athletics          : +0    0 prof + 0 Str + 0 misc
  [ ] Deception          : +0    0 prof + 0 Cha + 0 misc
  [ ] History            : +0    0 prof + 0 Int + 0 misc
  [ ] Insight            : +0    0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 misc
  [ ] Intimidation       : +0    0 prof + 0 Cha + 0 misc
  [ ] Investigation      : +0    0 prof + 0 Int + 0 misc
  [ ] Medicine           : +0    0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 misc
  [ ] Nature             : +0    0 prof + 0 Int + 0 misc
  [ ] Perception         : +0    0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 misc
  [ ] Performance        : +0    0 prof + 0 Cha + 0 misc
  [ ] Persuasion         : +0    0 prof + 0 Cha + 0 misc
  [ ] Religion           : +0    0 prof + 0 Int + 0 misc
  [ ] Sleight of Hand    : +0    0 prof + 0 Dex + 0 misc
  [ ] Stealth            : +0    0 prof + 0 Dex + 0 misc
  [ ] Survival           : +0    0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 misc

  Languages : Common

  Conditional Bonuses and Penalties :

  Inspiration 

  Inspired : Yes / [No]   Using inspiration gives you Advantage.

  Combat Statistics 


  Hit Points    :            Current HP :
  Proficiency   : +          Temp HP    :
  Initiative    : +          Total HD   : dX [1/1]

  Base Melee    : +0     0 Prof + 0 Str + 0 misc
  Base Ranged   : +0     0 Prof + 0 Dex + 0 misc
  Base Spell    : +0     0 Prof + 0 Mod + 0 misc

  Armor Class   : 10    00 armor + 0 shield + 0 Dex + 0 misc

  Vulnerability :
  Resistance    :

  Senses 


  Passive Perception     : 00  10 + 0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 adv* + 0 misc
  Passive Investigation  : 00  10 + 0 prof + 0 Int + 0 adv* + 0 misc
  Passive Insight        : 00  10 + 0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 adv* + 0 misc
   *Add or subtract 5 to passive based on having advantage or disadvantage.

  Vision :

  Saving Throws 


  Strength     : +0    0 prof + 0 Str + 0 misc
  Dexterity    : +0    0 prof + 0 Dex + 0 misc
  Constitution : +0    0 prof + 0 Con + 0 misc
  Intelligence : +0    0 prof + 0 Int + 0 misc
  Wisdom       : +0    0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 misc
  Charisma     : +0    0 prof + 0 Cha + 0 misc

  Conditional Bonuses and Penalties :

  Death Saves
  Successes : [-],[-],[-]
  Failures  : [-],[-],[-]

  Racial Abilities and Features 


  Subrace :
  ASI     :
  Size    :
  Speed   :
  Vision  :
  Language: Common

  Ability :

  Background Information 


  Background  :
  -Other      :
  -Skill Prof :
  -Tool Prof  :
  -Language   :
  -Feature    :

  Personality Traits
  - Name
    Description

  - Name
    Description

  Ideal
  - Name
    Description

  Bond
  - Name
    Description

  Flaw
  - Name
    Description

  Class Abilities and Features 


  Armor   :
  Weapons :
  Tools   :

  Saving Throws :
  Skill Prof.   :

  Features :
     -


  Feats 


  Name : Description

  Money and Equipment 


  Armor     :
  Belt      :
  Body      :
  Chest     :
  Eyes      :
  Feet      :
  Hands     :
  Head      :
  Headband  :
  Neck      :
  Ring #1   :
  Ring #2   :
  Shield    :
  Shoulders :
  Wrists    :
  Trinket   :

  Weapon    :

  Other Equipment :

  Money :

  Spellcasting (DC = 8 + Prof + Ability mod) 


  * Denotes a bonus spell gained by a Racial feature

  Spells Known:
  Spell Slots
  1st 0 | 2nd 0 | 3rd 0 | 4th 0 | 5th 0 | 6th 0| 7th 0 | 8th 0 | 9th 0

  DC:
  Spell Attack Mod:  (Prof + Casting Stat Mod)

  Bardic Inspiration
  [ ]

  Level 1 Spell Slots
  [ ]

  Cantrips
  -

  Level 1
  -






<table width="800">
<tr><td><b><small>  Basic Information  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>

  Name        :                     Height :
  Race        :                     Weight :
  Background  :                     Age    :
  Class       :                     Eyes   :
  Alignment   :                     Hair   :
  Deity       :                     Size   :
  Total Level : 1                   Speed  :
  Experience: : 0/300

</Mono></td></tr>
<tr><td><b><small>  Ability Scores  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>

  Strength     : 00 (+0)     00 + 0 racial + 0 misc
  Dexterity    : 00 (+0)     00 + 0 racial + 0 misc
  Constitution : 00 (+0)     00 + 0 racial + 0 misc
  Intelligence : 00 (+0)     00 + 0 racial + 0 misc
  Wisdom       : 00 (+0)     00 + 0 racial + 0 misc
  Charisma     : 00 (+0)     00 + 0 racial + 0 misc

</Mono></td></tr>
<tr><td><b><small>  Skills and Languages  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>

  [R] Denotes skill proficiency from racial abilities
  [B] Denotes skill proficiency from background
  [C] Denotes skill proficiency from class abilities

  <u>Proficient Skills                                      </u>

  <u>Non-Proficient Skills                                  </u>

  [ ] Acrobatics         : +0    0 prof + 0 Dex + 0 misc
  [ ] Animal Handling    : +0    0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 misc
  [ ] Arcana             : +0    0 prof + 0 Int + 0 misc
  [ ] Athletics          : +0    0 prof + 0 Str + 0 misc
  [ ] Deception          : +0    0 prof + 0 Cha + 0 misc
  [ ] History            : +0    0 prof + 0 Int + 0 misc
  [ ] Insight            : +0    0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 misc
  [ ] Intimidation       : +0    0 prof + 0 Cha + 0 misc
  [ ] Investigation      : +0    0 prof + 0 Int + 0 misc
  [ ] Medicine           : +0    0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 misc
  [ ] Nature             : +0    0 prof + 0 Int + 0 misc
  [ ] Perception         : +0    0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 misc
  [ ] Performance        : +0    0 prof + 0 Cha + 0 misc
  [ ] Persuasion         : +0    0 prof + 0 Cha + 0 misc
  [ ] Religion           : +0    0 prof + 0 Int + 0 misc
  [ ] Sleight of Hand    : +0    0 prof + 0 Dex + 0 misc
  [ ] Stealth            : +0    0 prof + 0 Dex + 0 misc
  [ ] Survival           : +0    0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 misc

  Languages : Common

  Conditional Bonuses and Penalties :

</Mono></td></tr>
<tr><td><b><small>  Inspiration  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>
  Inspired : Yes / [No]   Using inspiration gives you Advantage.

</Mono></td></tr>
<tr><td><b><small>  Combat Statistics  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>

  Hit Points    :            Current HP :
  Proficiency   : +          Temp HP    :
  Initiative    : +          Total HD   : dX [1/1]

  Base Melee    : +0     0 Prof + 0 Str + 0 misc
  Base Ranged   : +0     0 Prof + 0 Dex + 0 misc
  Base Spell    : +0     0 Prof + 0 Mod + 0 misc

  Armor Class   : 10    00 armor + 0 shield + 0 Dex + 0 misc

  Vulnerability :
  Resistance    :

</Mono></td></tr>
<tr><td><b><small>  Senses  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>

  Passive Perception     : 00  10 + 0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 adv* + 0 misc
  Passive Investigation  : 00  10 + 0 prof + 0 Int + 0 adv* + 0 misc
  Passive Insight        : 00  10 + 0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 adv* + 0 misc
   *Add or subtract 5 to passive based on having advantage or disadvantage.

  Vision :

</Mono></td></tr>
<tr><td><b><small>  Saving Throws  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>

  Strength     : +0    0 prof + 0 Str + 0 misc
  Dexterity    : +0    0 prof + 0 Dex + 0 misc
  Constitution : +0    0 prof + 0 Con + 0 misc
  Intelligence : +0    0 prof + 0 Int + 0 misc
  Wisdom       : +0    0 prof + 0 Wis + 0 misc
  Charisma     : +0    0 prof + 0 Cha + 0 misc

  Conditional Bonuses and Penalties :

  Death Saves
  Successes : [-],[-],[-]
  Failures  : [-],[-],[-]

</Mono></td></tr>
<tr><td><b><small>  Racial Abilities and Features  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>

  Subrace :
  ASI     :
  Size    :
  Speed   :
  Vision  :
  Language: Common

  Ability :

</Mono></td></tr>
<tr><td><b><small>  Background Information  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>

  Background  :
  -Other      :
  -Skill Prof :
  -Tool Prof  :
  -Language   :
  -Feature    :

  Personality Traits
  - Name
    Description

  - Name
    Description

  Ideal
  - Name
    Description

  Bond
  - Name
    Description

  Flaw
  - Name
    Description

</Mono></td></tr>
<tr><td><b><small>  Class Abilities and Features  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>

  Armor   :
  Weapons :
  Tools   :

  Saving Throws :
  Skill Prof.   :

  Features :
     -


</Mono></td></tr>
<tr><td><b><small>  Feats  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>

  Name : Description

</Mono></td></tr>
<tr><td><b><small>  Money and Equipment  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>

  Armor     :
  Belt      :
  Body      :
  Chest     :
  Eyes      :
  Feet      :
  Hands     :
  Head      :
  Headband  :
  Neck      :
  Ring #1   :
  Ring #2   :
  Shield    :
  Shoulders :
  Wrists    :
  Trinket   :

  Weapon    :

  Other Equipment :

  Money :

</Mono></td></tr>
<tr><td><b><small>  Spellcasting (DC = 8 + Prof + Ability mod)  </small></b></td></tr><tr><td><Mono>

  * Denotes a bonus spell gained by a Racial feature

  Spells Known:
  Spell Slots
  1st 0 | 2nd 0 | 3rd 0 | 4th 0 | 5th 0 | 6th 0| 7th 0 | 8th 0 | 9th 0

  DC:
  Spell Attack Mod:  (Prof + Casting Stat Mod)

  Bardic Inspiration
  [ ]

  Level 1 Spell Slots
  [ ]

  Cantrips
  -

  Level 1
  -

</Mono></td></tr></table>
Thente
player, 2 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Saves: Con +4, Cha +5
Mon 7 Jan 2019
at 19:11
  • msg #4

OOC Chat - 001

Thanks Moira, hope that one works as I used it :)

GM - I'm finished with my sheet I think if you want to check it over.
GM
GM, 15 posts
Mon 7 Jan 2019
at 23:56
  • msg #5

OOC Chat - 001

No preference on sheets, I like the look of the one you sent - let's use that for everyone.

I'll check your sheet and PM you directly Thente.

Once again, welcome to the game. Hoping this goes well too :)
Thente
player, 3 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Saves: Con +4, Cha +5
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 00:33
  • msg #6

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
Ahoy!  I'll be the party's Halfling mother hen/skill monkey, nice to meet you.


Funnily enough I took this as a personality trait as well... it'll be fun to see how that plays IC:
  - I watch over my friends as if they were a litter of newborn pups.
Claire Larkspur
player, 1 post
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 03:02
  • msg #7

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Nice to meet you all! Sorry I'm late to post, I just got back from a skiing trip. I'll be the party's vanilla human tanky-ness - looking forward to playing my first rpol campaign (introduced to the platform by the DM)! I'm not new to RP and DnD in general though, but writing and other feedback is very welcome!

Thanks for the template Moira, as I mentioned, I'm new to rpol, so the formatting helps me a ton.
Moira Ruadh
player, 2 posts
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 03:04
  • msg #8

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hey, welcome to the fun!  You got here just in time to dodge the tail end of the yearly slump where RPOL grinds to a halt over the winter holidays.
GM
GM, 17 posts
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 03:11
  • msg #9

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So the initial hook I had set up was intended to be generic, -but- if Veradda doesn't sound like something your character would be in on, you could simply be in the Nightstone area when the rocks fall. Or maybe in Nightstone itself.

However, if you are interested in tying your backgrounds with Veradda (or even tying your backgrounds with each other) this is the place to discuss it :)
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 1 post
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 05:34
  • msg #10

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hello folks.

I'm your cook turned abjurer after his clan had a nasty run in with giants. So we will clearly all look oit for one another.

I think there is a lot of backstory potential between us, especially halflings (and maybe arcanists).
Moira Ruadh
player, 3 posts
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 05:35
  • msg #11

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Another cook!  Wonderful!  :3  Our party is going to be so well-fed.
Thente
player, 4 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Saves: Con +4, Cha +5
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 06:15
  • msg #12

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 11):

Between my Outlander feature and the fact that I can cast Goodberry 1/day, there will definitely be plenty of food to be had!

GM - I've had some DM's rule that Goodberry nourishes you but the characters still feel hungry/empty. What are your thoughts on that? I.e. Goodberry keeps you on your feet, but you still want to eat a meal.

Doderic - I don't think Thente would have a bond with other Arcanists per se. As an outlander sorcerer, he knows nothing actually about the arcane, he just does his thing.

Claire - hope the ski trip was great! You going for Fighter as a tank?
This message was last edited by the player at 06:17, Tue 08 Jan 2019.
GM
GM, 18 posts
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 06:21
  • msg #13

Re: OOC Chat - 001

IMO, Goodberry sustains you but doesn't actually make you feel full. It's like being on a nutrient drip or eating soylent. You don't feel hunger, though you could probably still eat. The entire point of the spell is to feed people after all (and healing with life cleric I guess.)
Thente
player, 5 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Saves: Con +4, Cha +5
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 06:30
  • msg #14

Re: OOC Chat - 001

yeah, i didn't think it makes you feel full, other DMs said that you actively feel hungry since you're just eating a berry but that you wouldn't waste away, so I wanted to check on that.

I could select another spell for his 1st level magic initiate spell if people don't think Goodberry is worthwhile, I just tried to pick my spells based on things I thought a loner sorcerer trapper might have learned/developed.

Plus right now we don't really have much magically healing, and a Goodberry is as good as at getting people back on their feet and keeping them on their feet as a CLW spell :)
GM
GM, 19 posts
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 06:38
  • msg #15

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Goodberry is terrible unless you're dipping life cleric! You should play a cleric 1/warlock 2/sorcerer x multiclass with elven accuracy. Take magic initiate for find familiar and booming blade! Convert warlock points into metamagic! Blow three horns of the vahalla with your nose, mouth and b-

Honestly, just take the damn spell and play it out. Its fun, it fits the character, and you guys have no cleric at the moment. and has various RP uses.

Interestingly, per wording of the spell you can't actually "feed" someone a goodberry to let them heal from unconsciousness, since the beneficiary has to spend an action to eat it, but I think I'll allow it as a 'houserule'.
Thente
player, 6 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Saves: Con +4, Cha +5
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 07:07
  • msg #16

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ok, I'll stick with Goodberry then. Great point, I never noticed that it requires an action to eat, so thanks for that houserule!
Moira Ruadh
player, 4 posts
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 07:09
  • msg #17

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I've always played it as food that's produced via magic always tastes a bit off.  Flatter, less flavorful, maybe a little odd in texture.  Not inherently inferior, mind you, just objectively different to what everyone's grown up with all their life.  A steak's just not the same without a nice cast iron sear on it, y'know?

Then there's also the logistical matter of magical seasoning.  "Prestidigitation" lets you flavor food however you please, but it's essentially just an illusion since you're not actually transforming matter or creating food.  Thus you don't actually get any nutritional benefits from the results.  So you could make all the water you drink look, smell, and taste like orange juice but you're still gonna get scurvy since there's no actual vitamins in it.

For things like Goodberry, I'm with the DM.  It nourishes you - as in, it meets your body's nutritional/caloric requirements so that you remain functional and healthy.  But you've still only got a single berry in your belly, so a character won't actually feel satiated and may risk over-nourishing themselves if they want to eat more food to get the feeling of a full stomach.  I imagine Moira, being a down-home Hobbit type, would consider Goodberries in the same vein as emergency rations rather than actual food.

"Eating" a Goodberry
Honestly, I'd classify it under the same ruling as feeding an unconscious person a Potion of Healing.  The person administering the healing item has to use their Action to do it while the person receiving it just has it force-fed down their throat.  If they were conscious and unwilling then there'd likely be a matter of Grappling checks to be made to resist being force-fed anything, but if you're out cold then you automatically fail, sooooo... yeah.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:16, Tue 08 Jan 2019.
Thente
player, 7 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Saves: Con +4, Cha +5
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 07:13
  • msg #18

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
...would consider Goodberries in the same vein as emergency rations rather than actual food.
Sure, Thente agrees, it's just that he eats it more often than not historically for convenience sake, not having to carry rations with him, and also not "eating" into sales of meat profits :)

Basically he's a lazy bachelor who doesn't cook much, so Goodberry is his top ramen ;)
Claire Larkspur
player, 2 posts
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 07:49
  • msg #19

Re: OOC Chat - 001

If it helps our healing worries, I was planning to go Paladin!
GM
GM, 20 posts
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 08:23
  • msg #20

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
I've always played it as food that's produced via magic always tastes a bit off.  Flatter, less flavorful, maybe a little odd in texture.  Not inherently inferior, mind you, just objectively different to what everyone's grown up with all their life.  A steak's just not the same without a nice cast iron sear on it, y'know?


Sort of like microwave/electric-plate foods vs a nice open flame stove. It's impossible to get a nice char with electric stoves IMO :x
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 2 posts
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 08:42
  • msg #21

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira - I envisioned her as a dancer or something, not a cook. But the more the merrier (let's disregard the pesky "Too many cooks" saying)

Claire - Welcome. RPoL can be a bit moody until you get to know it. We hope we'll help you along and make this a great experience for you.

Thente - Well, a stark contrast is a bond as well. I can't wait for the clash of Doderic's formulas and recipes with Thente's intuition.

GM - Could you please unlock my character sheet?
And regarding the prologue, is each of us making our way to the Nightstone on our own, or are we already traveling together?
GM
GM, 21 posts
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 09:04
  • msg #22

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Doderic: Done!

The prologue isn't a must, more of a "where were you the night before" type scenario. The party will come together at Nightstone when we start the campaign proper. Before that, you guys can be traveling together, separately, or even be in Nightstone itself (though the last would be a completely different scenario). I don't expect any posts there until everyone's concepts are firmed up. And even then, I might split the thread and scenario depending on how everyone's backstories turn out.

So no pressure to post immediately. Think of it as anchor of sorts for the kind of flavor I'm going for with this campaign. What would your character do? What sort of reactions would they have? Why are they even traveling to Nightstone in the first place? That sort of thing.
This message was last edited by the GM at 09:13, Tue 08 Jan 2019.
GM
GM, 22 posts
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 04:14
  • msg #23

Re: OOC Chat - 001

And that's our 5th party member! Everyone say hi to SheynaCeryna!

Quick Timeline
You guys work fast, so here's the rough timeline I'm shooting for getting the game started:

11/1 - Backstories done
13/1 - Character sheets finalized
14/1 - First Post for chapter 1

Prologues
With how things are going, I will make individual prologue threads for each of you guys sometime tonight. Do tell me if any of your characters might be traveling together and would like a different "starting" thread to do some RP a bit before we begin, get used to each other's styles...etc

Also, somethings I'd like everyone's opinion on:
1) As part of character creation, I'm thinking each of you guys can start with a Common Magic Item from Xanathar's Guide to Everything. Just something for you guys to add a bit more flavor to your characters. PM me if you need a copy of the list (courtesy of Moira!)

2) SKT will likely involve a good amount of traveling, which messes with the rest system of "x encounters per long-rest". I am considering adopting the Gritty Realism rest rules (1 short rest every 24 hours, 1 long rest every week), though I understand some players really do not like it. What are your opinions on this? I'm willing to experiment with variations on the usual rule as well (one long rest every 2 days, only rest at specific places...etc).
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:16, Wed 09 Jan 2019.
Thente
player, 8 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Saves: Con +4, Cha +5
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 04:29
  • msg #24

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hi Sheyna!

1) I'm down with a common item, not sure which I'd want, but wouldn't mind
2) Why don't we try the gritty realism rest to start and see how it plays out. If it doesn't work we can revert to the normal rules.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 1 post
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 04:45
  • msg #25

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hi all!  Apologies for  those who saw our DM‘s  initial post. My character went through a small name change. She is now Ceryna...a human Cleric of the Arcane, with loose connections to one of Waterdeep’s oldest noble Houses.  I will have a description and portrait up tomorrow. I’m really looking forward to writing/playing with all of you...

 As to the short rest, long rest options, my preference is for the standard version rather than the gritty realism version. But I am open to either.   I also have no problem with trying one for awhile, and switching to the other if it proves preferable.
GM
GM, 23 posts
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 05:02
  • msg #26

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Here's what I'm leaning towards:

Resting - characters still need to sleep every day, and short rest/long rest durations remain the same (1 hour min. for short rest, 8 hours min. for long rest). The following changes apply however:

1) Characters only gain the benefit of a Long Rest if they rest in a "safe zone". This is loosely defined as any civilized area 'sanctified' by a shrine. Other exceptions may present themselves - I will indicate as appropriate.

2) In all other scenarios, characters will only gain the benefit of a short rest. This does not restore HP, or recover Hit Die regardless of the number of hours spent. Characters can still spend HD to heal as with any other short rest.

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For most part, all towns and villages are 'safe zones'. Lodges, old temples, even certain groves may be 'safe zones' as well. A campfire isn't a safe zone, neither is the inside of a tiny hut or rope trick. But a well-hidden traveler's lodge dedicated to Mielikki might.

I figure that this fits with how prominent the Gods are on Faerun - this also rewards cases where adventurers might find an abandoned shrine to Lathandar or similar and clean/restore it, turning it into a 'safe zone'. Of course, shrines to deities that oppose the party (most evil deities, in the case of this group) may not confer the benefit.

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Speaking of Gods - for those not so familiar with the setting, one of the elements of Faerun afterlife is that if you die without worshiping a specific 'patron deity' your soul ends up in the Wall of the Faithless, which is literally a giant wall embedded with the screaming souls of faithless atheists that exist in agony for all eternity. Having a deity is generally recommended :P
Claire Larkspur
player, 3 posts
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 05:10
  • msg #27

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Welcome Ceryna!

1) I don't mind getting a free item!

2) I think that's an interesting spin on the standard rest system, but I'm also open to experimenting, seeing how it goes and changing back if we find it doesn't work for us.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 3 posts
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 10:06
  • msg #28

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Welcome, Ceryna!

As for the questions/plans:

Magic item - sure thing, I'll have to take a look at them again (if you can post them in character creation, that'd be great)

Rest - this is an interesting twist. I have to say I kinda like it.

Prologues - I can see Doderic teaming up with any of the other characters while on the road. I'm also somewhat partial to characters knowing one another at the start of the adventure.

Equipment-wise, do we get to start with a (random) trinket?
GM
GM, 24 posts
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 10:14
  • msg #29

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I've PMd you the list.

At the moment, I believe Claire and Thente are starting out in Nightstone. I don't think anyone else has voiced any other preference yet.

Yes you may start out with a randomly rolled trinket if you wish. Use the games dice roller. Note that all trinkets come with a 10% chance of PLOT.
Thente
player, 9 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Saves: Con +4, Cha +5
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 16:31
  • msg #30

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm torn on a common item and am soliciting advice:

Thente is a lone woodsman friendly with the wood elves of Ardeep, which of these things if most fun/makes most sense:
  • Clothes of mending - very practical for a loner in the wilderness
  • Moon touched sword - i'm not proficient, but leave it to the elves to give someone a magical gift they can only use for light!
  • Orb of Direction - great for navigating and trekking
  • Rope of Mending - super useful and practical. I think Thente's would only be 43' long, not 50 though... ;)

What do you guys think?

One or both of the cooks needs to have Hewards Handy Spice Pouch!
Moira Ruadh
player, 5 posts
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 17:25
  • msg #31

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I totally already snagged a Heward's Handy Spice Pouch.  :3  For me, it was that or a Pole of Collapsing, as a 10-foot pole that can shrink down to fit in a pouch is unbelievably useful for any adventurer.  The Pole of Angling was a close third, because who doesn't enjoy fishing?

@Thente
You have the Outlander background, right?  You should be able to manage trekking in the wilderness already, so between that and a good Survival skill, you shouldn't really need an Orb of Direction.

For overall utility?  I'd say probably go with the Moon-touched Sword.  It's a never-ending heatless torch, a +1 weapon, and is still combat-viable even if you aren't proficient with it.  Just because you lack proficiency doesn't mean you can't use it - you just can't use it well.

@DM
Question about traveling: how viable will it be for us to invest in mounts and vehicles?
For example, I have juuuuuuust enough GP to buy myself a Mastiff and would absolutely love a riding dog, because dog!  :3  But it would also break my heart if I had an adorable companion critter only for him to be killed immediately because of incidental damage or circumstances.  So long as mounts aren't used in combat or intentionally used to confront danger, can they essentially be deemed as "safe" from harm?  Like, if danger suddenly appears they'll just sort of scamper off to safety or otherwise remain out of the line of fire because of basic survival instincts we silly adventurers ignore?
This message was last edited by the player at 17:30, Wed 09 Jan 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 4 posts
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 18:19
  • msg #32

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The spice pouch seems so nice. As Moira went for it, I'll take the Staff of Flowers and grow fresh herbs when needed :)
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 2 posts
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 19:14
  • msg #33

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ceryna's going with the Cloak of Many Fashions.  While it has little practical use, it is very RP appropriate to her concept.
Thente
player, 10 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Saves: Con +4, Cha +5
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 19:58
  • msg #34

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 31):

@Moira - you raise good points about Survival & Outlander, so there goes the Orb ;)

I can cast heatless light with a cantrip that is brighter and lasts an hour on my dagger (which with I AM proficient), though it doesn't count as magical for over coming resistances like a moon touched sword. The Common version doesn't give you a +1 sword, it's just magical so overcomes resistances, and sheds 15' of bright/15' dim light.

I guess if I can get it as a Moon-touched Dagger (GM?)

I like the idea of a partiall used Rope of Mending for my guy ;)

@Claire should get a moon-touched greatsword so she can whomp things that have Resitance: B/S/P from non-magical weapons!
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 3 posts
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 22:20
  • msg #35

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Might we talk a little bit about group synergies?  I'm absolutely a Character/RP/Storyline First sort of player; I'm not one to maximize based on the least thematically-effective choice in order to wring every single millimeter of positive probability out of a situation.  But knowing just a little about each of our member's talents and weaknesses can definitely help us not to be duplicative (at the least).

Ceryna is an Arcana Cleric of Mystra.  Her build focuses on Wisdom (big surprise), but she'll be decent in Int and Cha as well, mostly for skill benefit purposes.  I  don't know if we have a natural "Face" in the group, but she may be able to be the fill-in there if not.

She will NOT be a front-line fighter by any stretch, but can provide some decent, ranged backup.  She'll be making frequent use of buffs and debuffs...
Thente
player, 11 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Saves: Con +4, Cha +5
Wed 9 Jan 2019
at 22:35
  • msg #36

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sure!

Thente is a Storm Giant Soul Sorcerer raised in the woods with rare contact with other people or elves. So while he's Charisma heavy, his only skill in the area is Intimidation! Though he could grow and learn Diplomacy and Deception, right now he doesn't have much social skill outside his natural Charisma. He is also decent at Con and Wisdom stuff.

Thente actually doesn't have any ranged cantrips. He will be in melee probably too often for my liking. Though he does have a Crossbow for when ranged is required ;)
Moira Ruadh
player, 6 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 00:13
  • msg #37

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira is a high DEX/CHA Rogue, going into the Swashbuckler archetype at Level 3.  Dual-wielding shortswords (and possibly rapiers later, if I go for the matching Feat) for melee and a shortbow for ranged.  Her skill focuses are in DEX, WIS, and CHA skills, so she can serve as a Face for the group pretty well overall.

Given that she's bound to Light Armor and a d8 HD, Moira is not made to wade into melee.  Her role is to either snipe from afar, or bounce in, do a huge amount of Sneak Attack Damage to a single target, and then bounce out so she can reposition and do it again next turn.  Because she's a Swashbuckler she can avoid triggering Opportunity Attacks from people she hits.  Because she's a Lightfoot Halfling, she can move through other creatures' spaces if they're bigger than her, so she has a lot of capacity for being able to move around the battlefield for advantageous positioning.  If we're using "Flanking" rules, that's extra important for us to keep in mind.

So it sounds as though we're short on melee options given our current group composition.  Assuming Claire is a Paladin (or Cleric?  I can't quite tell) then it looks like she and I will be getting up close with baddies on priority.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:14, Thu 10 Jan 2019.
GM
GM, 25 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 00:23
  • msg #38

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Not using flanking rules at the moment. The rest rules and initiative posting changes are the only ones I'm making for now.

@Moira
Modes of transportation will be important in this campaign, though not immediately. I usually prefer that Companions will not be randomly killed from damage during combat if they don't participate. Some narrative events may result in harm to them though, but I'll refrain from randomly killing favorite pets :x

Mounts, depending on the situation, may be targeted even out of combat. Bandits may attack horses to stall a cart for example.
Claire Larkspur
player, 4 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 01:30
  • msg #39

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Thente I was thinking exactly of getting a moon-touched greatsword, since it's entirely plausible that Claire gets one from her veteran father.

Moira Ruadh:
So it sounds as though we're short on melee options given our current group composition.  Assuming Claire is a Paladin (or Cleric?  I can't quite tell) then it looks like she and I will be getting up close with baddies on priority.


Yup, Claire is mechanically a Paladin! Mechanically I figure she's more offensively than defensively built (with Great Weapon Master)? So I expect she can handle a good amount of the group's damage dealing. While she's not the squishiest (with 15 AC I think, and +1 CON modifier), she's also not as punishment-absorbing as a shield paladin. Buffs, debuffs and other support will be very nice! Not having a lot of melee holding power could be fun too, if it makes us more careful with where, when and how we choose our engagements.

Claire also has relatively high CHA, but in a kind of contrast to Thente, she only has Persuasion as a skill proficiency rather than Intimidation or Deception, since helping villagers with daily tasks generally involves being approachable and sociable, rather than being quick-witted, discerning or intimidating. With average WIS and no Insight proficiency either, I feel like Moira could be a more natural 'Face'. I notice we have a lot of characters with good CHA, but I think that's fine!

Other stronger stats include STR and DEX. Claire will be bringing some healing capacity to the party too, so perhaps between her and Ceryna and items, it sounds like we'll be quite fine.
GM
GM, 26 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 01:56
  • msg #40

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The party selection is actually sort-of intentional! I fully intend to match encounters to the party strengths (and sometimes weaknesses). Or rather, if I design things correctly there should also be alternative routes beyond "toss the barbarian in and hope everything shoots them first". So don't worry too much about not having a tanky type.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:09, Thu 10 Jan 2019.
Thente
player, 12 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Saves: Con +4, Cha +5
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 02:01
  • msg #41

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Claire Perfect! I'm getting me some mending rope and keeping my light cantrip then ;)

For emergency healing/stabilization we'll also have Thente's Goodberry spell!

Thente has an AC 14 and shield as needed, but my giant blood gets me to 16 hit points, so I can take a hit or two.

I think we'll be ok in melee as long as we're fighting smaller creatures to start so we can survive to get better armor and higher hit points! ;)

Claire can lay the hurt, Thente can provide a second target and also lay some hurt, and Moira can bound in and out dropping some sneak attack hur. Ceryna can help with buff/debuff and healing. Doderic can help with ranged spell (cantrips, etc.) and buffs as an abjurer as well I think.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 4 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 03:24
  • msg #42

Re: OOC Chat - 001

 I am really pleased to hear that we have so many Charisma-Heavy character types.   Honestly, my girl’s charisma is decent, but not awesome. So I’m pleased to hear that we have a couple of other strong options for group Face aside from her. In fact, I may even make a few minor tweaks to her build, now that I know that role is comfortably covered. Gracias!
Moira Ruadh
player, 7 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 03:31
  • msg #43

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm bopping along at 14 AC for the moment, as I couldn't quite afford Studded Leather at character creation.  It pains me to be such an easy target.  T_T

Fair warning when it comes to the Face role for the party: Moira is going to step up more often than not.  She's a Halfling and a Rogue - either one of those is a "take initiative when meeting new people" trait and both together means she's generally the one to put her best fuzzy foot forward but quick.  Her highest trained CHA skills are in Persuasion and Deception, and in nature she's a very honest and earnest sort of person.  She's not going to be lying to people and absolutely isn't going to be doing any thieving.

So with that in mind!  Please do not let me, the player, take center stage too much in those situations.  This is cooperative storytelling and a game for all of us, so everyone should get their turn at handling situations.  Nobody here should feel like they can't participate in a certain event just because another player usually takes the lead on it or may have a higher number.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 5 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 09:44
  • msg #44

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic is Abjurer Wizard, and currently his DEX is higher than INT (until lvl. 4). He's mostly lore oriented in skills. He'll stay in the back and provide support, but he should be able to keep himself alive, especially with his decent CON.

Doderic is certainly talkative as well, but his interests probably won't have much to do with advancing the adventure, so glad to have Moira take that over.

DM, any preferences for the content of Bio lines?
GM
GM, 29 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 09:53
  • msg #45

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic Cookingpot:
DM, any preferences for the content of Bio lines?


Ah! Thanks for bringing this up.

AC, Passive Perception and Saves would be ideal

If you have a spare line, put whatever else you like in it.

NPCs will not have this information unfortunately, but I'll be fine with letting you guys tag them :P

Also @Doderic: I'm starting up a prologue thread for Moira and Ceryna on the road, would you like to join in?
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 6 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 09:54
  • msg #46

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'll put it up, and yes throw me in, please.
Thente
player, 14 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 16:22
  • msg #47

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Did we chat about speech color in this game?

I can't find it in this thread, did I miss it?

I'm going to take Sea green bold if that is ok? If bold doesn't work for people I'll still stick with sea green.
Moira Ruadh
player, 9 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 16:32
  • msg #48

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm personally rather fond of Lavender.
GM
GM, 31 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 16:34
  • msg #49

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No ones claimed anything, far as I know.

Brown is reserved for NPCs in general, though some NPCs may have different colours.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 8 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 16:39
  • msg #50

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm fine with bold, especially if Thente speaks in a powerful voice.

I'll go with Rose.
Moira Ruadh
player, 10 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 16:42
  • msg #51

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Can we all agree on the usual default that Orange is reserved for OOC mechanics text?
GM
GM, 32 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 16:44
  • msg #52

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I believe that's already in the Rules and Posting threads, which I've been gradually updating as we go along.
Moira Ruadh
player, 11 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 16:48
  • msg #53

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ah, right you are.
Thente
player, 16 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 17:08
  • msg #54

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Cool.

Doderic you raise a good point, he probably doesn't speak powerfully normally, having spent so much time in the woods with just elves for company, so I'll not use the bold for him unless he is raising his voice or something/emphasis.

GM - rules thread says that you're using language groups, but I don't see an Elven group for Thente. I hope you do set those groups up, that is one of my favorite features of rpol and doing RP on here, the verisimilitude that language groups bring to the "table".
GM
GM, 34 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 17:19
  • msg #55

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hmm odd. Try again?
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 10 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 17:21
  • msg #56

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Language groups are working now.

On the note of Roll20, I have an account but never used it. I'm willing to give a live combat a try, although I'm sure that the timezones will not make it easy.
Moira Ruadh
player, 12 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 17:22
  • msg #57

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I don't seem to have any language groups set?  I should be in Halfling, Giant, and Thieves' Cant.  Assuming we want to designate Thieves' Cant as an alternate language rather than a string of lingo and innuendo that can be spoken in any language, like it actually is.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:23, Thu 10 Jan 2019.
GM
GM, 35 posts
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 17:25
  • msg #58

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That's because I apparently scrambled your language choices with an NPC.

It should be correct now.
Moira Ruadh
player, 13 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 17:28
  • msg #59

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Looks good, thanks.
Thente
player, 17 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 18:52
  • msg #60

Re: OOC Chat - 001

[Language unknown: Eauillset acwi rut, plous!]

Thanks :)

EDIT - I also have a Roll20 free account though I don't use it much. Not sure how much availability I have for "live" sessions, but I can pop in there for maps and such. Any way to DL or copy paste things from there to here?
This message was last edited by the player at 18:56, Thu 10 Jan 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 15 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 19:05
  • msg #61

Re: OOC Chat - 001

My usual habit is to grab a screencap, put things together in Photoshop, then upload to Imgur for hosting.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 11 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 19:26
  • msg #62

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Am I guessing correctly that Moira is a Lightfoot?

And maps can be uploaded directly as files to the game. Art that is embedes in postes needs to be hosted elsewhere.
Moira Ruadh
player, 16 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 10 Jan 2019
at 19:30
  • msg #63

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Correct.
Claire Larkspur
player, 7 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 00:18
  • msg #64

Re: OOC Chat - 001



I'll pick Goldenrod for my speech color if that's okay.

Speaking of colors, just a note that the hair color in my portrait is inaccurate, sorry about that - it was the best I could find considering 90% of portraits on this site look like they're from the previous century. x.x
GM
GM, 38 posts
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 00:21
  • msg #65

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I used to have a Photobucket account for this sort of thing. I might look at imgur for this.

Speaking of portraits, I'll be making combat tokens for you guys for the maps. Simple stuff with an online token stamper- any preference on pics to use? I'll likely default to your current portraits.
Thente
player, 19 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 00:49
  • msg #66

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm good with my portrait, makes recognition a bit easier so we don't have different pics on portrait vs. map.

I've talked to a couple of people about an art commission for Thente, but they are expensive! :)
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 8 posts
AC15/PP15/HP9/9/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 00:59
  • msg #67

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I am fine with my portrait as well...

I have chosen purple as Ceryna’s dialogue color.
Moira Ruadh
player, 18 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 02:19
  • msg #68

Re: OOC Chat - 001

My portrait works fine by me.

Custom art is hard to come by, yeah.  I have a number of artist friends who take commissions for pretty good prices though, so I'm in luck.  ^_^  I've got one commission currently being done for a Goblin character of mine, and the second picture of Moira in my bio page was actually a surprise gift made for me by another player/DM here on RPOL.
Thente
player, 21 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 04:30
  • msg #69

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM - I might be missing it somewhere, but is there a game map of Nightstone itself? And some highlights on locations that Thente and Claire would be familiar with coming from there?
GM
GM, 42 posts
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 04:34
  • msg #70

Re: OOC Chat - 001

There is! I made the village somewhat larger than the original however, so the gamemap is no longer accurate.

I'll update the Nightstone info page for you guys. Give me 10mins.
Thente
player, 23 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 04:35
  • msg #71

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Great, thanks!
GM
GM, 43 posts
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 04:47
  • msg #72

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Updated! If you want more specific details on the locations and the NPCs feel free to ask in the PM thread.
GM
GM, 50 posts
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 16:56
  • msg #73

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So, if it wasn't a noticeable pattern yet, I'm most active at approximately 1000 hours and 2200 hours (GMT +8), plus/minus an hour. I'm wondering if folks here have a similar posting "timeslot" they set aside for rpol (in addition to all the random checking in throughout the day) and might want to put a schedule of sorts.

As a DM I intend to at least indicate 1 daily time-slot at which I will be actively online (think office hours) so you guys can at least expect a reliable update schedule (Weds and Fri nights excluded because I have my IRL games then). Would you guys want to do something similar on an individual basis? I know some games here have players put up a 'schedule' so individual PCs can sync on posting.

But if its too much hassle I honestly don't mind just keeping it as it is right now.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:56, Sat 12 Jan 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 14 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 17:01
  • msg #74

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm available from 1000 to 1800 hours GMT +1 on weekdays. Sometimes that might run a bit longer (to 2100), but that's quite variable. While I will see anything posted during that time, I might not be able to put up a complex post right away.
Thente
player, 26 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sun 13 Jan 2019
at 01:25
  • msg #75

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm most active between 0800-1700 GMT -8 while I'm at work actually. Though I usually check in at night as well from home.
Claire Larkspur
player, 16 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sun 13 Jan 2019
at 11:59
  • msg #76

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm active between 0900 to 2300 GMT+9, but mostly after 1630. Before that it really depends on whether and when I have classes.
GM
GM, 55 posts
Sun 13 Jan 2019
at 22:02
  • msg #77

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Everyone's sheet seems good. I should have PMd you about any changes needed.

I'll be looking to move both groups into the starting thread sometime after the next 24 hours. Expect something of a times in later tonight once everyone has posted for the Caravan group.
GM
GM, 57 posts
Mon 14 Jan 2019
at 06:43
  • msg #78

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Unfortunately, I will have limited internet for two days this week due to RL commitments. I believe I should still be able to respond at least once a day. Just a heads up that my replies will be delayed.

At the moment, I intend to at least start the main chapter while my net is still up so both groups can introduce themselves to each other.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 11 posts
AC15/PP15/HP9/9/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Mon 14 Jan 2019
at 16:38
  • msg #79

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm most active in the late mornings and mid-afternoon of weekdays (CST; GMT-6), as well as most evenings.  On the weekends, I can check in several times, and probably post once or twice, but in general I will be less active.  My travel schedule for work can wreak havoc on this pattern at times, but I will try to give some advanced warning if it looks like its going to.

As with some others, I can check for updates regularly on most days, but I really hate trying to compose a meaningful response on my phone.  :)
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 13 posts
AC17/PP15/HP9/9/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Mon 14 Jan 2019
at 17:33
  • msg #80

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thought I'd note that Ceryna has the Guidance cantrip, and as a general rule, she will be using it freely as needed to buff checks for herself and her companions.

I'll try to remember this, but because of the nature of play-by-post games, someone might take an action before I can react with the buff.  Consequently, if I forget, or just don't have a chance to jump in, don't hesitate to have your PC ask Ceryna for some 'good karma' before attempting some important ability or skill check.  If she can, it's reasonable to assume that she will...
Moira Ruadh
player, 24 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 14 Jan 2019
at 21:04
  • msg #81

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The fun part here about Moira's inventory narratively being mostly cooking supplies is that's really the case.  I spent more GP cooking items, tools, and foodstuffs than I did on weapons.  :3c
Thente
player, 30 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 14 Jan 2019
at 21:38
  • msg #82

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 81):

That is awesome :)
GM
GM, 59 posts
Mon 14 Jan 2019
at 22:35
  • msg #83

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'LL really sorry, but u will need to delay the update to Thursday. In the meanwhile, please feel free to continue discussing/rping in the existing threads.

Unfortunately I overestimated the degree of wifi access I would have for the coming week or so, please excuse this hiccup at the start ><
GM
GM, 60 posts
Mon 14 Jan 2019
at 23:05
  • msg #84

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ok rather than leave you guys hanging, I decided to just open the main thread since i had it ready anyway. The main thing was the lack of a lead up, but after some thought i believe that its fine.

I'll leave the other prologue threads open for folks wanting to continue to banter, but now the party can at least introduce themselves to each other until I get back to goddamn civilization (i.e. places with electricity and wifi)

See you guys in a day or two.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 17 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 15 Jan 2019
at 13:21
  • msg #85

Re: OOC Chat - 001

*raises a fist in mock anger* Curse you Moira, now I'll have to learn about cooking just to RP properly.

Thanks for moving us forward GM, good luck in the wilderness.
Moira Ruadh
player, 25 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 15 Jan 2019
at 14:44
  • msg #86

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Doderic Cookingpot (msg # 85):

I don't see this as being a bad thing.  :3c

But yeah, part of the reason I enjoy playing Halflings is because I love to cook IRL, so getting to play what is essentially Hobbit living really works for me.
Thente
player, 31 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 15 Jan 2019
at 17:01
  • msg #87

Re: OOC Chat - 001

You should see if DM's will let you take the UA Feat Gourmand (https://media.wizards.com/2016.../dnd/ua-feats-v1.pdf)!

It's great fun!

I made an NPC for my group one time who was basically useless (yes, even in 5e that is possible, but he had the Gourmand feat, so the party didn't want to let him die or leave because of the awesome benefits of the feat. Healed them really well and once kept a PC from being poisoned, or at least consuming a poisoned dish.
Moira Ruadh
player, 26 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 15 Jan 2019
at 17:25
  • msg #88

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I already talked to the DM about it prior and we're actually going to be using the expanded Artisan Tool rules from "Xanathar's Guide".  So, given Moira's tool proficiencies and some homebrewed "quality cooking ingredients" I spent quite a bit of gold on, she can actually make meals that will yield different mechanical effects for the party.  The basic one I know of is enhanced healing during rest periods, which is always useful, though the DM also mentioned:

DM:
Quality will also affect the strength of the result (possible causing more potent effects), lower the DC, and potentially provide bonuses on certain rolls.


So between my proficiencies, the Halfling "Lucky" trait that lets me re-roll a 1, and Doderic to assist and grant Advantage/lower the DC?  We should all be eating really well more often than not.  :3c
Thente
player, 33 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 15 Jan 2019
at 17:29
  • msg #89

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Nice! I dont' think I've read the expanded rules for cooks utensils in XGE, I'll have to check them out.

Maybe the just re-worked the UA concept into expanded tool rules rather than have it as a feat.
Moira Ruadh
player, 27 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 15 Jan 2019
at 17:54
  • msg #90

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It's not just the Cook's Utensils - it's all Artisan Tools.  The developers seemed to realize that the tool sets didn't actually do anything and it was left entirely to individual DM homebrewing, so they made various functions and skill checks for every tool to give them more use.  There's naturally still plenty of room for homebrew on their usefulness, but it's nice to have guidelines.
Claire Larkspur
player, 19 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 16 Jan 2019
at 00:54
  • msg #91

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
I already talked to the DM about it prior and we're actually going to be using the expanded Artisan Tool rules from "Xanathar's Guide".


Does anyone have a copy of those rules handy? I'm not really familiar with 5e beyond the base PHB.
Moira Ruadh
player, 28 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 16 Jan 2019
at 01:11
  • msg #92

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I believe both the DM and I have a copy of the book, so we can field any questions thereof.  Did you have a particular tool kit you were curious about?
Claire Larkspur
player, 20 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 16 Jan 2019
at 01:13
  • msg #93

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yeah, the herbalist's kit! How does that work in the expanded rules? Also, is there anything relevant to the healer's kit?
Moira Ruadh
player, 29 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 16 Jan 2019
at 01:51
  • msg #94

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Mind you, this is right out of "Xanathar's Guide".  The DM may have their own customization or house rules to add to these, so take them with a grain of salt for the time being.

Tool Proficiency:
Tools have more specific applications than skills.  The History skill applies to any event in the past.  A tool such as a Forgery Kit is used to make fake objects and little else.  Thus, why would a character who has the opportunity to acquire on or the other want to gain a tool proficiency instead of proficiency in a skill?

Advantage
If the use of a tool and the use of a skill both apply to a check, and a character is proficient with both, consider allowing the character to make the check with Advantage... The benefit is often expressed as additional insight which translates into an increased chance that the check will be a success.

Added Benefit
In addition, consider giving characters who have both relevant skill and tool proficiency an added benefit on a successful check.  This benefit might be in the form of more detailed information or could simulate the effect of a different sort of successful check.  For example, a character proficient with Mason's Tools makes a successful Wisdom (Perception) check to find a secret door in a stone wall.  Not only does the character notice the door, but you decide that the tool proficiency entitles the character to an automatic success on an Intelligence (Investigation) check to determine how to open the door.


Herbalist Kit:
Proficiency with an Herbalist Kit allows you to identify plants and safely collect their useful elements.

Components
An herbalism kit includes pouches to store herbs, clippers, and leather gloves for collecting plants, a mortar and pestle, and several glass jars.

Arcana
Your knowledge of the nature and uses of herbs can add insight to your magical studies that deal with plants and your attempts to identify potions.

Investigation
When you inspect an area overgrown with plants, your proficiency can help you pick out details and clues that others might miss.

Medicine
Your mastery of herbalism improves your ability to treat illnesses and wounds by augmenting your methods of care with medicinal plants.

Nature and Survival
When you travel in the wild, your skill in herbalism makes it easier to identify plants and spot sources of food that others might overlook.

Identify Plants
You can identify most plants with a quick inspection of their appearance and smell.

Herbalist Kit Skill Checks
Find Plants - DC 15
Identify Poison - DC 20

This message was last edited by the player at 05:38, Wed 16 Jan 2019.
Claire Larkspur
player, 21 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 16 Jan 2019
at 05:23
  • msg #95

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thanks!
GM
GM, 61 posts
Thu 17 Jan 2019
at 02:14
  • msg #96

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm back!

And yes, we are using variant rules on skills and tools. For most part, I like to reward creative use of abilities, so if you want to try something but aren't sure if it would work, just ask (PM or otherwise)!

Also, I'm really enjoying the posts so far, especially the level of detail some of you guys are going with your crafts. Just want to add that not every post needs to be of top quality! I rather have a consistent, shorter post each day than one longer paragraph every now and then with a whole medley of actions.

Expect your usual update in 12 hours or so.
GM
GM, 68 posts
Sat 19 Jan 2019
at 17:23
  • msg #97

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'll see if anyone else wants to chime in, then push things forward again at in 8 hours or so.
Thente
player, 43 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 21 Jan 2019
at 18:26
  • msg #98

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Huh, I just realized when writing my last post... I don’t think anyone in our group has Darkvision. From the looks we’re 3 humans and 2 halflings!

Not sure I’ve ever been in a game where NONE of the characters had Dark/Infravision, in any edition, let alone 5e where everyone and their mother’s race comes with it.

This should be fun!
Moira Ruadh
player, 34 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 21 Jan 2019
at 18:34
  • msg #99

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That's why I have a lantern.  :3c

It really surprised me that Halflings didn't have Darkvision at first, until I thought of it in relative comparisons.  Halflings are to Humans what Gnomes are to Elves, and the parallels are pretty solid between them.

But yeah, this is by far the most "mundane" party I've ever been in.  Haven't seen a game yet that didn't have a gaggle of Tieflings and Dragonborn among the lot of them.  Though, to be honest, I was this close to playing a Goblin for this game.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:38, Mon 21 Jan 2019.
Thente
player, 44 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 21 Jan 2019
at 21:51
  • msg #100

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 99):

When feats and variant human are in play 7/10 I’m playing one. If standard humans are the option I probably only select that if I rolled and like all stats are odd numbers.

Otherwise I’m choosing a race with more flavor/abilities
Moira Ruadh
player, 35 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 21 Jan 2019
at 22:05
  • msg #101

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Since I was playing a Swashbuckler Rogue, Lightfoot Halfling was pretty much a no-brainer for me.  Racial abilities like "Lucky" let me reroll a 1, I can move through Larger creatures' squares at no extra movement cost, I can hide behind anything Medium-sized and larger to easily proc Sneak Attack, and I get a +2 DEX +1 CHA boost.  Waaaay too much good synergy there to pass up on.

Goblins are less ideal since they have a racial trait that overlaps with the Rogue's class ability for movement-related bonus actions, so it's a waste due to redundancy.  But they're still tons of fun regardless.  :3
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 20 posts
AC17/PP15/HP9/9/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Mon 21 Jan 2019
at 22:55
  • msg #102

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
Huh, I just realized when writing my last post... I don’t think anyone in our group has Darkvision. From the looks we’re 3 humans and 2 halflings!


FWIW, Ceryna does have the Light cantrip.  With no concentration requirement, she can glow a bunch of stuff for folks as needed.  That will help somewhat...but it makes stealth at night a little more challenging.  :)
Thente
player, 45 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 01:01
  • msg #103

Re: OOC Chat - 001

As does Thente. So we can light up two objects (as soon as you cast it on another object, the previous spell goes out). Not saying we're blind, but nighttime stealth or cave stealth is NOT going to be us :)
GM
GM, 73 posts
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 01:41
  • msg #104

Re: OOC Chat - 001

This wasn't really intentional, I mostly picked concepts that I liked and gelled well with each other. For whatever reason the blander races had more interesting personalities :x

But yeah three humans and two halflings is pretty vanilla as far as adventuring parties go. Plus at least there won't be arguments about whether to have light sources.
Claire Larkspur
player, 30 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 07:23
  • msg #105

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I've pocketed the potion for now, but does anyone want it in particular?
Moira Ruadh
player, 36 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 07:30
  • msg #106

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Might be useful to hand over to our primary damage dealer for the sake of better combat odds.  Otherwise, it could also serve as an emergency "get back up at two failed death saving throws" potion.  Not sure if anyone invested in Potions of Healing.  I certainly couldn't afford any.
Claire Larkspur
player, 31 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 09:07
  • msg #107

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Speaking of which, who is our primary damage dealer? I'm not too familiar with 5e classes and build possibilities in general.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:08, Tue 22 Jan 2019.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 21 posts
AC17/PP15/HP9/9/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 11:41
  • msg #108

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Probably Moira or you. Moira is capable of doing the most damage to a single target, but she lacks the AC and HP to stay toe-to-toe.  Your martial weapons have the most pure damage potential, and once you gain spell slots, you can burn them for an extra 1d8 radiant damage on each attack, giving you pretty effective extra damage as well. I’m fine with you or Moira keeping the potion for now.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:36, Tue 22 Jan 2019.
Thente
player, 48 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 18:08
  • msg #109

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Claire as the Paladin is going to be the "tank"/damage dealer, especially once you get Divine Smite going.

Moira will hopefully be bouncing in and out and sneak attacking regularly.

Thente, though a sorcerer, is planned to be more melee heavy (16 hit points, mage armor/shield). He's going to use Shillelagh in combination with Green Flame Blade and Eventually Booming Blade in combat along with Shocking Grasp when best/necessary. He doesn't have any ranged cantrips. His ranged spell is his light crossbow! Should be an interesting challenge, but I thought it worked well with the "giant soul" origin, trying to be up close, etc.
Moira Ruadh
player, 40 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 18:17
  • msg #110

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Keep in mind that I don't necessarily have to be in melee.  I can Sneak Attack at range so long I'm Hidden first (which should be easy enough for me to manage in most cases thanks to race/class skill synergy) and/or so long as someone more tanky is all up in an enemy's business.  Given my currently low AC and HP, it's better for me to keep out of melee until I level up at can get the Swashbuckler Archetype, which will make me more brawl-ready.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 25 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 18:21
  • msg #111

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic is a support/defensive caster, but with time he'll have some AOE spells to get rid of swarms of smaller enemies. Although, might not be many of them among the giants...

But he'll stick to ranged either way. Although with Abjurer's ward, he' can take a hit or two before being in trouble (famous last words -.-)
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 25 posts
AC17/PP15/HP9/9/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 19:01
  • msg #112

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ceryna is more of a support/defensive type as well.  Her AC is pretty decent for level 1, but she'll be attacking from range with cantrips as much as possible (probably trying to maintain concentration on Bless or some other Buff!).

If things get too up-close, she's gonna be forced to go stabby-stabby with a dagger (Finesse).  I'm hoping to avoid that.

Fire Bolt and Sacred Flame will be her go-to options at this point, assuming she can't think of a beneficial way to use Minor Illusion...

Oh...and because I made the RP choice to heal that child NPC, she is down to one 1st level spell as we head off to adventure.

Yay!  Level one PCs are so much fun.  ;)
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 26 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 19:10
  • msg #113

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Errr... I might have some good news for you.
Character Creation:
Starting Level 2

Moira Ruadh
player, 41 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 19:20
  • msg #114

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I've got two Shortswords, Ceryna, so you can borrow one if you need the boost from a d4 to a d6 in a pinch.  I'll really only be focusing more on dual-wielding in combat once I get my archetype and can more reliably evade Opportunity Attacks without needing to burn a Bonus Action to do so.

Honestly, our current set-up for having the majority of us being ranged is pretty solid from a strategic standpoint.  It only makes sense for us to pick off as many enemies as possible from a distance before resorting to melee on any surviving attackers - likely softened up by that point - who manage to close the gap.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 26 posts
AC17/PP15/HP9/9/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 19:50
  • msg #115

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic Cookingpot:
Errr... I might have some good news for you.
Character Creation:
Starting Level 2

Crud!  How in Mystra's name did I miss this?  Our good DM even checked my character sheet and blessed it as bueno!  Yikes!

Ah well...mistakes in my favor are awesome!  I'll adjust accordingly.

Thanks muchly for the sword offer, Moira.  I may take you up on it at some point.
GM
GM, 79 posts
Tue 22 Jan 2019
at 22:19
  • msg #116

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yea that was my bad. I was mostly looking for wrong math/stats and missed something far more egregious. Will make another check this weekend in case I missed more things ><
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 27 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Wed 23 Jan 2019
at 15:37
  • msg #117

Re: OOC Chat - 001

IC suggestions on what, if anything, Ceryna should try to buy?  I'm speaking of common stuff; she doesn't have the gold for major purchases.  But she can swing 10-15 gp worth of stuff.  Do we need cold weather gear?  Extra rope?  Some oil?  IC-ly, when it comes to travel in a non-urban setting, she's kind of a babe in the woods...

If not, she'll try to buy a bedroll, an extra healer's kit, a few more days of rations and call it good.
Moira Ruadh
player, 43 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 23 Jan 2019
at 17:14
  • msg #118

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well, it depends on whether or not you had any equipment packs as part of your starting gear.  A ranged weapon like a bow or crossbow is always useful.

Things like rope, a tinderbox, oil flasks, torches, pitons, and hammers can be very useful if we're going into caves.  Crowbars are one of those "I never knew I needed it until I needed it" items since they grant Advantage on STR checks where such a tool could be applied.  I got one of those myself since my STR is in the pits and thus I need all the help I can get.  A bag of Ballbearings or Caltrops are good if you want to influence a battlefield since they can be used to slow down enemies.

Things like Bedrolls and Tents don't offer any actual mechanical elements at all and their relevancy is highly based on narrative, so it's best to get the DM's word on whether those would be worth having.
Thente
player, 50 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 23 Jan 2019
at 17:27
  • msg #119

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ceryna - not sure we need her to buy... anything really. Maybe a bedroll if she doesn't have one already so she can rest at night.

I'm assuming you have the noble background and cleric class here.

Cleric you can start with a light crossbow if you you wanted.

Did you take the priest's pack for her from the Cleric starting equipment? If not, explorer's pack has all this:
• a Backpack
• a Bedroll
• a Mess kit
• a Tinderbox
• 10 torches
• 10 days of Rations
• a Waterskin
• 50 feet of Hempen rope

vs. priest pack:
• a Backpack
• a Blanket
• 10 candles
• a Tinderbox
• an alms box
• 2 blocks of incense
• a censer
• vestments
• 2 days of Rations
• a Waterskin

So depending on which you chose there you might have much of that stuff already.

We were just given 2 healing kits by Vesawick, so we have at least 3 of them between those two and the one Claire has in her stuff. 2 climbing kits by Morak, so this is probably the most geared up party I've ever started with! :)

So... I like Moira said, depending on what kit you have, maybe just a bedroll and rations depending on what you've got in your packs from starting gear.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 28 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Wed 23 Jan 2019
at 19:17
  • msg #120

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thanks to both of you.  Yes, OOC-ly, I know the sort of gear that can be useful.  IC-ly though, Ceryna would not have.  Plus, she didn't know what others already had. Her offer was to help supplement the group's needs.  If everyone is good, she will probably go with the bedroll and rations, since even a city slicker like her is aware of the need for these...at least narratively.  Since Moira just gave her a healer's kit, she probably won't buy another.

As a side not, she chose the Priest's pack.  It was the more appropriate choice from the perspective of her character, even if less useful for a campaigner.  :)
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 19:41, Wed 23 Jan 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 29 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 23 Jan 2019
at 19:21
  • msg #121

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic started with Scholar's pack, but got most necessities with background's gold. Also, speaking to innkeepers can grant you what you need (which isn't necessarily what you wanted).

We'll certainly make due.
Moira Ruadh
player, 45 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 23 Jan 2019
at 20:28
  • msg #122

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Aside from her cooking supplies, Moira is traveling light with a heavily pared-down Burglar's Pack.  She's used to roughing it and presently was traveling from one point of civilization to another directly via wagon, so she's not packing a Bedroll or anything like that.  She's only got the bare necessities - food, water, rope, illumination, a crowbar, and playing cards.
GM
GM, 83 posts
Wed 23 Jan 2019
at 23:19
  • msg #123

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Morak gave out only 1 climbers kit. Plus some rope, pitons and grappling hook

I wouldn't worry about buying things Ceryna. Stuff like cold weather gear csn be bought near places where they are needed.

EDIT: also, regarding rhe latest post, in cases where the party needs to make multiple simhlatanous but proactive rolls like this, Ceryna can guidance 1 of the checks for 1 individual at each phase, since guidance is single target concentration. So for phase 3 for example, you can guidance thr survival check for Thente or the stealth check for one pc, but not both.

As mentioned in announcements, posts today will be delayed.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:37, Wed 23 Jan 2019.
Thente
player, 52 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 00:21
  • msg #124

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM - I made the additional roll(s) and just edited my previous post.

Depending on when Guidance is given to Thente I have both #'s in there for you to use.

I will also add my stealth roll in there for good measure just to go ahead and have all mine in one place.
Moira Ruadh
player, 46 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 00:24
  • msg #125

Re: OOC Chat - 001

When it comes to things like Stealth, can Moira "Help" party members if they substantially bork their roll?  She has a +7 Stealth modifier, so she's likely the sneakiest of the bunch and - given her background - accustomed to leading groups through quiet infiltration.
GM
GM, 85 posts
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 00:37
  • msg #126

Re: OOC Chat - 001

This will be a group stealth check, so Moira helping them is considered part of the roll i.e. Moira rolling high but someone else rolling low, success is because Moiras high roll "covered" them.
Moira Ruadh
player, 47 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 01:22
  • msg #127

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Stealth: 16

I'd suggest someone with a positive WIS mod take the Animal Handling check.  Moira has experience with pack animals as part of the narrative, but doesn't actually have any mechanical proficiency.  She only has a +1 to WIS, so anyone with a higher WIS mod is better suited.

@GM
For the second phase with the rocky terrain - could we use a Nature, Survival, or Acrobatics check to try and manage a more efficient path through the terrain to cut down on time?
This message was last edited by the player at 01:23, Thu 24 Jan 2019.
GM
GM, 86 posts
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 01:39
  • msg #128

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Moira Sure! I'll say make a nature check at moderate DC to see what you might know specifically about the area and what hazards to avoid. Anyone prof can make this check. I'll take the higher score, or the second person can grant advantage to the first for the roll.

Note that I already took into account Thente's familiarity with the area as a lowered DC for survival.
Claire Larkspur
player, 33 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 01:44
  • msg #129

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I can make a nature check - Claire would be a little more familiar with the area than the average outsider, though not to the extent that Thente is.
Moira Ruadh
player, 48 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 02:02
  • msg #130

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira isn't proficient with Nature, so I can't help in that regard.  I'd almost call for Halfling Luck to kick in since we have two in the party and all Halflings are literally divinely blessed to be supernaturally lucky, but I don't think that's something I should try and actively use.  ;3
This message was last edited by the player at 02:02, Thu 24 Jan 2019.
GM
GM, 87 posts
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 02:05
  • msg #131

Re: OOC Chat - 001

...oh. Now there's a thought.

*Scribbles in notebook while cackling*
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 30 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 02:44
  • msg #132

Re: OOC Chat - 001

 I will try the animal handling check. I’m going to guidance that one for phase 1. After that, I can offer guidance to whatever required checks need it in the next two phases.  I am inclined to let our guide have them, but I’m open to suggestions
Moira Ruadh
player, 49 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 02:56
  • msg #133

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 131):

Just to be specific:

Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes, Chapter 5 - Halflings:
"I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the times I saw our little rogue cheat death, but I remember them all.  Let's see... there was the enraged roper, the flaming lava stream, the catapulted gelatinous cubes, the Ten Tilting Corridors of Death, the exploding toad trap, the Hall of Spinning Scimitars..."
    -Magnificus, Wizard extraordinaire

Anyone who has spent time around Halflings, and particularly around Halfling adventurers, has likely witnessed the storied "luck of the Halflings" in action.  When a Halfling is in mortal danger, it seems as though an unseen force intervenes.  If a Halfling falls off a cliff, her britches will snag on a root or a sharp outcrop of rock.  If a Halfling is forced by pirates to walk the plank, he will catch a piece of flotsam and use it to stay afloat until he is rescued.

Halflings believe in the power of luck and they abide by a great number of superstitions that they believe bring good or ill fortune.  They attribute their unusual gift to the favor of Yondalla, believing that, now and then, the divine will of the goddess tips the balance of fate in their favor (or gives them a hearty shove when the occasion warrants).


Regarding their patron Goddess, Yondalla:
Yondalla created the first Halfling villages and showed the people how to build, plant, and harvest.  She knew that the bounty of a Halfling village would be tempting plunder for any brigand or monster, so she used her powers to conceal their homes from easy discovery, blending them into the landscape so that most travelers would pass by without a second glance.

To the Halflings, Yondalla is responsible for the spring in their step and the bubbly excitement they feel from knowing that luck is on their side.  When a pumpkin grows to enormous size or a garden yields twice as many carrots as usual, credit goes to Yondalla.  When a Halfling trips, slides down a hillside, and lands on a nugget of gold, that's Yondalla turning bad luck into good.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:58, Thu 24 Jan 2019.
Thente
player, 53 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 04:43
  • msg #134

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Ceryna Vantellon (msg # 132):

I'll take it for the phase three Survival check which was my worst roll! ;)
GM
GM, 88 posts
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 05:01
  • msg #135

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm fine with it now, mostly because rpols posting format makes this sort of thing messy, but for future reference try not to ask for guidance after you have made the roll, since the spell specifies it must be cast before the action it is to be applied to :)

Also, do tell me if anyone wants to take any other actions while traveling.

Work stuff ended up not taking as much time as I thought, so I've be able to respond much more often than I thought.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:02, Thu 24 Jan 2019.
Thente
player, 54 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 05:16
  • msg #136

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 135):

I did note a with and without Guidance for all of my survival checks when I rolled them initially because I wasn't sure if/which of my rolls were going to get Guidance if any.
GM
GM, 89 posts
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 05:23
  • msg #137

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yup, that's part of why I'm fine with it. But retroactively getting the spell cast on your PC after you know your roll is something I would like to avoid. But pbp is messy for stuff like that.

Part of why I laid things out like that was so that you guys could decide how to distribute advantage and guidance in conjunction with the post. It may have made things more confusing though, apologies.

For most part, i would like to keep guidance to "ensure that really important roll in each situation succeeds" instead of "everyone has +1d4 to all skills"
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:23, Thu 24 Jan 2019.
GM
GM, 90 posts
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 11:58
  • msg #138

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Anyone who has anything to prep for the first phase (donkey ride) feel free to post as per what Doderic did. Otherwise I'll just use the rolls so far and resolve it accordingly, say 12 hours from now :)
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:59, Thu 24 Jan 2019.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 31 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 12:20
  • msg #139

Re: OOC Chat - 001

 I forgot to roll for stealth yesterday. Oops. Just did. Oops again.

I guess she had the hiccups or something.  At least the Animal Handling roll was decent.

 I will be in meetings all day today, and may not get to post again until this evening. I will be checking the posts occasionally though.
GM
GM, 91 posts
Thu 24 Jan 2019
at 13:14
  • msg #140

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No issue, and yes that handling roll was good :)
GM
GM, 94 posts
Fri 25 Jan 2019
at 03:03
  • msg #141

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Just to be sure, could I get a tally on what direction the party wants to travel?

Cave - Moira, Ceryna, Thente
Forest - <none>

EDIT: that pretty much settles it, unless Claire and Doderic have arguments against
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:22, Fri 25 Jan 2019.
Thente
player, 58 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 25 Jan 2019
at 04:15
  • msg #142

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente is good with cave as well
Claire Larkspur
player, 34 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 25 Jan 2019
at 04:40
  • msg #143

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Will post in a bit indicating so, but cave is good!
GM
GM, 100 posts
Fri 25 Jan 2019
at 22:20
  • msg #144

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente, the cave is not that near. It's more of "if you keep heading up this path, you'll reach it" than "the cave mouth is right there".

I'll edit the original post to make it a bit clearer, apologies. Would you like to edit your actions as well?
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:41, Fri 25 Jan 2019.
Thente
player, 62 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 25 Jan 2019
at 22:47
  • msg #145

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Nah, better safe than sorry! Though I'll edit for clarity as well.
GM
GM, 101 posts
Fri 25 Jan 2019
at 22:52
  • msg #146

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sure! I'll wait and see if anyone else wants to investigate the scene before replying to Doderic's attempt.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 34 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sat 26 Jan 2019
at 18:47
  • msg #147

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So, we're climbing further till we reach the cave and then Thente starts the light show. Do we need another set of stealth checks GM?
Moira Ruadh
player, 52 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 26 Jan 2019
at 20:02
  • msg #148

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry on the quiet - things picked up for me.  I'm going to be busy for most of today, but I'll be able to get some posts up this evening.
GM
GM, 103 posts
Sun 27 Jan 2019
at 02:07
  • msg #149

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I must have accidentally read off Thente's block instead of Doderic. This is what I get for trying to update off mobile >_>

Shall I assume the entire party is going straight for the main cave entrance that Thente knows then?
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 35 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Sun 27 Jan 2019
at 04:19
  • msg #150

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 149):

I’m pretty sure that was the group choice, yes.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 38 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Mon 28 Jan 2019
at 18:26
  • msg #151

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm on the road with spotty internet access.  Further, I think my wifi network card is going bad as I keep getting dropped requiring frequent adapter resets when I do have a connection.  Always great when you are away from the office.

I posted this, and my last IC note, on my mobile phone.  Please be patient with me over the next few days.  I promise not to fall behind, but my posts may be shorter and less frequent..
GM
GM, 107 posts
Mon 28 Jan 2019
at 23:49
  • msg #152

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Moira - understand your point, but I would say to just roll damage each time anyway. Would rather not list ACs outright, since it does affect some decisions. If it turns out to slow things down that badly I'll consider doing it.

@Ceryna - no issue. Would you mind if I assume a default set of actions for Ceryna? I aim to update 1 round a day (2200, GMT +8). Shorter posts are fine in combat - just actions and rolls will do. Not expecting quality, unless the combat is simultaneous with story elements, but this one is a rather straightforward 'intro' fight.
Claire Larkspur
player, 39 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 28 Jan 2019
at 23:54
  • msg #153

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Question re our battle plan with the gobbos, are we plinking at them from the outside and trying to provoke them out, charging into the cave with intent to pursue, or fighting them at the cave entrance? If I'm understanding correctly, Thente is in melee range at the entrance. Is it okay if Claire goes in?
Thente
player, 65 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 29 Jan 2019
at 00:18
  • msg #154

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well, goblins are great at running away, so I don't think we're goin to provoke them outside. At least that is Thente's thought.

I think between Moira's arrow and Doderic's Firebolt that the one Thente ran up to is dead and gone now. There are probably 4 more we can see, but Claire is more than welcome to move up next to Thente so he's not the only melee person out there right now! ;)
GM
GM, 108 posts
Tue 29 Jan 2019
at 00:31
  • msg #155

Re: OOC Chat - 001

If it helps, I can confirm the gob is dead (unfortunately Moira's shot was slightly off from oneshotting it). I was going to resolve it as Thente running up and dodging there.

Round will be updated again within the next 14 hours, or when everyone has posted. I'll try to ensure there is a 24 window between each update for folks that have lives :P
Moira Ruadh
player, 55 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 29 Jan 2019
at 00:40
  • msg #156

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Do I get to act again in this current round of Initiative, on the idea that my first attack was outside the actual combat round?  Or was that just an automatic "I go first for this round" sort of event?
GM
GM, 109 posts
Tue 29 Jan 2019
at 00:49
  • msg #157

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The entire party was acting in a surprise found. The actual intiative rounds start now.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 39 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Tue 29 Jan 2019
at 02:32
  • msg #158

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
@Ceryna - no issue. Would you mind if I assume a default set of actions for Ceryna? I aim to update 1 round a day (2200, GMT +8). Shorter posts are fine in combat - just actions and rolls will do. Not expecting quality, unless the combat is simultaneous with story elements, but this one is a rather straightforward 'intro' fight.


 That’s fine. Again, I believe I should be able to keep up, even if I’m stuck responding on my cell phone until I figure out what’s going on with my laptop. However, I don’t want to hold things up. I think you can already see that my cleric will be a support type. On these early fights, she is likely to stay in the background and use ranged attacks —Fire Bolt and Sacred Flame.  She will try to hold Bless until the party faces a significant challenge. Obviously, as necessary, she will use healing if the situation warrants it.  But she will avoid short-term healing in battle to conserve spell slots.

When opportunity permits, she may also use Minor Illusion for rocks to hide behind, tripping hazards to camouflage, etc.
Moira Ruadh
player, 56 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 29 Jan 2019
at 04:06
  • msg #159

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@DM
I want to use my Movement to get to I-12 for a better shot at the Goblins.  Doing so puts Moira behind cover against the rock wall and also behind her allies - since she's a Lightfoot Halfling and a 2nd level Rogue, she can Bonus Action: Hide even behind Medium-sized creatures.

Moira Ruadh rolled 15 using 1d20+7

Is that high enough vs. the nearby Goblins' Passive Perception for her to go into Stealth and thus get Advantage for a Sneak Attack?
GM
GM, 111 posts
Tue 29 Jan 2019
at 04:36
  • msg #160

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Definitely. For future attacks, I would say

1) Declare hide, roll sneak
2) Roll 2 attacks (assume advantage regardless of sneak result)
3) Roll damage + sneak attack damage

If the sneak is too low, I'll take the earlier roll. Else, I'll take the higher of the two

If the attack misses, I'll just ignore the damage. Same for sneak attack triggering.

This does mean you roll more per post, but it seems faster than having to ask each time, and doesn't disclose too much monster information.
Moira Ruadh
player, 57 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 29 Jan 2019
at 04:37
  • msg #161

Re: OOC Chat - 001

[thumbs up]
GM
GM, 112 posts
Tue 29 Jan 2019
at 05:15
  • msg #162

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Urgh okay the grid overlay I'm trying to use over the Roll20 one is borked.

I'll try to fix the map later today once I have access to the proper tools. For now, if the grid doesn't align properly just give me an approximate description like what Moira did. Sorry.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 41 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Wed 30 Jan 2019
at 14:36
  • msg #163

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Tabletalk...

My plan this round would have been to cast Bless on Claire, Thente and probably Moira.  However, now I'm really worried about our Paladin getting one-shotted down on another hit.  We've got plenty of ways to stabilize her if she does, but there's another ogre incoming..

Ceryna can throw a Healing Word to Claire (1d4+3 HPs), and still toss a Fire Bolt cantrip at the injured Ogre.  That leaves me with one 1st level spell slot for another Healing Word, Bless or whatever.  Thoughts?
GM
GM, 114 posts
Wed 30 Jan 2019
at 14:57
  • msg #164

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Something to note - I'm fine with resolving the round actions so if Ceryna casts bless, we can retroactively assume that the bless was cast before Claire attacked. This means she would get an additional 1d4 to hit in her previous post.

I did say I would resolve 'block' initiative in favour of the PCs after all.

Excited to see how you guys handle the Ogres :3
Moira Ruadh
player, 60 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 30 Jan 2019
at 16:05
  • msg #165

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I haven't missed any of my own rolls yet, so retroactively applying Bless to Moira wouldn't cause any issues with my numerical continuity.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 38 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 30 Jan 2019
at 16:16
  • msg #166

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Not sure if Healing Word will be enough to take another hit (always the optimist, I know).

Also, let it be noted GM, I liked it more when it was just one Ogre.
Thente
player, 67 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 30 Jan 2019
at 16:48
  • msg #167

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I seem to have missed something whilst I slept... stupid sleep. Let me check on the IC thread.
GM
GM, 115 posts
Wed 30 Jan 2019
at 17:25
  • msg #168

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic Cookingpot:
Also, let it be noted GM, I liked it more when it was just one Ogre.


I'm sure you'll be fine? :x

Can't tell if this is a worry or a complaint actually. Do PM me if you have concerns.
Moira Ruadh
player, 61 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 30 Jan 2019
at 17:29
  • msg #169

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 168):

Came across more as a jest to me.  It helps if you read such comments in Martin Freeman's dry Bilbo Baggins wit voice.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:29, Wed 30 Jan 2019.
Thente
player, 69 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 30 Jan 2019
at 17:38
  • msg #170

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 169):

haha that is how I read it as well!
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 39 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 30 Jan 2019
at 17:40
  • msg #171

Re: OOC Chat - 001

You should mostly keep in mind that I'm very serious about joking around :D

Moira has it on point.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 42 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Wed 30 Jan 2019
at 20:10
  • msg #172

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic Cookingpot:
Not sure if Healing Word will be enough to take another hit (always the optimist, I know).


An excellent point, and one I'd considered as well.  All right, Executive Decision - (somewhat retroactive) Bless it is.
Claire Larkspur
player, 43 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 03:57
  • msg #173

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ceryna:
All right, Executive Decision - (somewhat retroactive) Bless it is.


What great news to wake up to haha

Edit: T_T My rolls are so disappointing...
This message was last edited by the player at 04:22, Thu 31 Jan 2019.
GM
GM, 117 posts
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 07:17
  • msg #174

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic Cookingpot:
You should mostly keep in mind that I'm very serious about joking around :D

Moira has it on point.


Good to know :3

I checked and double checked the math but yea. The Ogre is still standing. Sorry Claire :<
Moira Ruadh
player, 62 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 07:34
  • msg #175

Re: OOC Chat - 001

On the plus side, "Bless" affects Death Saving Throws.
GM
GM, 118 posts
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 08:13
  • msg #176

Re: OOC Chat - 001

This is something I've been debating a little - since I'm running all your turns simultaneously in the same initiative 'block', I'm inclined to let Ceryna's healing word (which is no doubt coming) bring Claire up in the same round and let her act.

It does favor the party quite immensely, but it also makes 'bad combinations' of initiative less painful. Like the current situation - if Claire and Ceryna's init was swapped, then the ideal situation of heal -> Claire acts would happen. With the current config, Claire instead gets a death saving throw and misses her turn, because she happened to roll higher on init than the healer.

What do you guys think?
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 41 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 09:44
  • msg #177

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It seems that you didn't take into account the 8 damage from Divine Smite. So the first ogre might be down after all. It now depends on whether the second ogre will still attack Claire to avenge his friend.

As long as we're all in the same group (i.e. without monsters acting between us), it shouldn't be a problem if we switch around. The intent is much appreciated. Otherwise, we might want to delay the initiative to act together, but it's something we need to state.
Claire Larkspur
player, 44 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 10:50
  • msg #178

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Oh my mistake! You're right, I listed 22 as my total damage without adding the 8 smite damage.

I was wondering why my rolls were so bad. x_x
GM
GM, 119 posts
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 10:59
  • msg #179

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Oh. That does change things significantly. Yes, the Ogre is dead, now I need to remake the map ><

But it's mate will move to where it was, so all previous actions still hold.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 42 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 11:14
  • msg #180

Re: OOC Chat - 001

And who said wizards can't heal!
GM
GM, 120 posts
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 13:30
  • msg #181

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Post and map updated. Moira, feel free to edit to recent events, though you may keep your previous rolls if you like. Good on you for catching this Doderic :P
Thente
player, 70 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 13:43
  • msg #182

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So Ogre is dead and Claire is still up? Just want to clarify as the post still has her at 0 and making saves, but I don't see damage she took?

Also - ow, that hurt ;)

Also Also - I'm going to see what other people do before I declare Thente's actions. Their degree of hitting the ogre or not will determine what spell I use.
GM
GM, 121 posts
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 13:45
  • msg #183

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yup, Claire is still up. I'm being really sloppy today. Apologies. That has been fixed
Claire Larkspur
player, 45 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 14:17
  • msg #184

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I think I'll hit the ogre with another Smite - hopefully I can do math this time!
Moira Ruadh
player, 64 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 31 Jan 2019
at 14:50
  • msg #185

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Retcon taken into account and post edited.  The rolls all still apply since Moira targeted the other Ogre in the first place, but the fluff has changed accordingly.
GM
GM, 123 posts
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 00:24
  • msg #186

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Oh wow that was insanely close Thente. You were only a few points off :P

EDIT: moving the feedback stuff to the renamed session 0 talk -> feedback thread :)
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:33, Fri 01 Feb 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 65 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 00:40
  • msg #187

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@GM
I assume we can just narratively execute the slumbering Ogre without having to roll anything?  Because there's no way Moira's leaving that thing behind them without making sure it's dead.
GM
GM, 125 posts
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 01:23
  • msg #188

Re: OOC Chat - 001

You may! Depends on whether the rest of party wants to keep it alive, but yea you can pretty much execute it.

Note that if a sleeping creature was stronger, had a lot more health or had special abilities I might ask you to roll for it, but for this ogre it definitely dies right out to one good crit from Moira.
Claire Larkspur
player, 49 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 01:27
  • msg #189

Re: OOC Chat - 001

But the poor ogre...

Practically speaking, it's a sound move. Ordinarily Claire would strongly object to killing helpless creatures, but this one just tried to kill her and her friends, so she'd probably feel ambivalent with a touch of disgust and not protest too much.
Thente
player, 73 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 02:29
  • msg #190

Re: OOC Chat - 001

hehe I just asked the same question in the IC thread... please ignore the question there.

Thente would help bash the ogre skull using his Shillelagh with Moira just to make sure the deed is done.
Moira Ruadh
player, 68 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 02:54
  • msg #191

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira is plenty, thankfully.  I rolled damage just for the hell of it and got 17 with just one attack totaled up.  Could have done more with a Bonus Attack too, but I think this one's good and dead.
GM
GM, 126 posts
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 03:04
  • msg #192

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Interestingly enough, 17 wouldn't have killed it. You were slightly short (like I said, Thente cut it really close with a 21 :P)

But yea, no reason the rest of the party wouldn't have dogpiled it too. So its dead and won't haunt you guys be returning to life any time soon.

The cave is completely unlit, yes. I'll probably push another update 12 hours from now if everyone else has posted, depending on what the party decides.
Moira Ruadh
player, 69 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 03:09
  • msg #193

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Rolled bonus damage and bumped my numbers up to 23.  How's that work?  :3
GM
GM, 127 posts
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 03:12
  • msg #194

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ye it ded :3
Moira Ruadh
player, 71 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 17:37
  • msg #195

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@GM
Regarding the bats - is this a Swarm of Bats combat encounter, or more of an environmental encounter we could overcome via skill checks and use of equipment?
GM
GM, 130 posts
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 17:41
  • msg #196

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Environmental encounter for now. It may shift depending on your actions.
Moira Ruadh
player, 72 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 17:47
  • msg #197

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Additional question for more fun: how plausible would it be for Moira to do the "fire breather" trick with an oil flask and her lantern to try and drive the bats away with a big, bright burst of flame?  :3
Thente
player, 76 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 17:50
  • msg #198

Re: OOC Chat - 001

If they are shying from the lights, Moira goes right towards the halflings, Thente goes left and maybe we can pen them in?

Side note - I feel like a swarm of bats should be vulnerable to Thunderwave since their sight is primarily auditory based in flight. Not sure if they are or not, but probably not. Probably just standard swarm stuff.
Moira Ruadh
player, 73 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 17:53
  • msg #199

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Though you can aim Thunderwave so as not to hit any of the civilians, it might be risky to make that big a boom in an enclosed cave.  Coin toss?  Or everyone lighting up torches to swing around and drive off the bats might be useful as well, assuming anyone else has them.  Some Firebolts would surely work as well.

Either way, Moira is absolutely going to bee-line for the Halflings.  They are her kidnapped family.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:54, Fri 01 Feb 2019.
GM
GM, 131 posts
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 18:04
  • msg #200

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
Additional question for more fun: how plausible would it be for Moira to do the "fire breather" trick with an oil flask and her lantern to try and drive the bats away with a big, bright burst of flame?  :3


Go for it :)

I'll probably ask for a (moderate difficulty) check to not burn herself however, since this isn't really something she's normally trained in. How does a Sleigh of Hand check sound?

Thente:
If they are shying from the lights, Moira goes right towards the halflings, Thente goes left and maybe we can pen them in?

Side note - I feel like a swarm of bats should be vulnerable to Thunderwave since their sight is primarily auditory based in flight. Not sure if they are or not, but probably not. Probably just standard swarm stuff.


They aren't by RAW. But this is more an environmental encounter - judge the bat behaviours from what I've described so far and go from there is what I would say. Feel free to clarify things, though I won't explicitly tell you guys how I expect you to 'solve' this.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 45 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 18:18
  • msg #201

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry for lack of posting, I likely won't manage anything IC for another 16-20 hours.
Flu is making me very cranky and inefficient.

As for fire breathing, I can't wait for lvl 3 to get the spell. And Doderic will likely try to mimic Thente's success with Sleep. Not sure how it will work on swarms, especially with folks around, but hey...
Moira Ruadh
player, 74 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 18:29
  • msg #202

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Doderic
Oof, the flu sucks.  >_<  Rest up and feel better.

@DM
Slight of Hand, or maybe Performance since it's something of a novelty trick?  Same modifier value either way on my part, so it doesn't matter which.  I'd like to hear from the others' ideas first though before taking an action.
Thente
player, 78 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 18:37
  • msg #203

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I think if we just walk in with our lights held high on opposite sides we should be ok without pyrotechnics?

That's just my thought though.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 46 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 18:58
  • msg #204

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
@Doderic
Oof, the flu sucks.  >_<  Rest up and feel better.


Ditto!  Feel better, Doderic!

quote:
@DM
Slight of Hand, or maybe Performance since it's something of a novelty trick?  Same modifier value either way on my part, so it doesn't matter which.  I'd like to hear from the others' ideas first though before taking an action.


Ceryna doesn't have any spells prepared that are directly helpful to this situation.  In fact, she only has one more 1st level spell slot.

However, she can cast Light on her Shield to maybe confuse the bats' senses somewhat...at least directly around herself  She could also cast Guidance to support someone else on a skill check or two in the challenge.

Finally, she could cast Sanctuary on herself; if the others can keep the bats frightened and/or distracted, Ceryna can start escorting groups of villagers out of the cavern, under the combined "protections" of her Sanctuary spell and her lighted shield.
Thente
player, 79 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 1 Feb 2019
at 19:32
  • msg #205

Re: OOC Chat - 001

If we can do light twice and use Moira's lantern I think we'll have enough to circle the hole and create a cordon for the villagers to escape
GM
GM, 132 posts
Sat 2 Feb 2019
at 04:02
  • msg #206

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So what I'm reading are:

Moira is going to use her lantern + maybe a flame breath to scare off bats
Thente + Ceryna are spamming light spells to create a cordon for the villagers
Ceryna may use Sanctuary and ferry villagers out personally
Doderic will try to KO a large number of bats with the sleep spell

How many of these actions are you guys going ahead with first?
Moira Ruadh
player, 75 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 2 Feb 2019
at 07:27
  • msg #207

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'll hold off on trying to breathe fire for the moment.  The other options are much safer for the villagers in general and don't risk a bunch of flaming debris or burning oil splashed around if I mess up the skill check.

For the moment, Moira will stick with using her lantern to help Thente and Ceryna.

Though it should be noted that if this turns into actual "Swarm of Bats" enemies, then they'll be immune to Sleep.  A whole bunch of individual Bats would fall victim to a Sleep spell, but Swarm-type enemies are immune.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:28, Sat 02 Feb 2019.
Claire Larkspur
player, 51 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 2 Feb 2019
at 08:31
  • msg #208

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I've already used up both my spell slots unfortunately, so I'm out of tricks up my sleeve. Except the greatsword of course.
GM
GM, 133 posts
Sat 2 Feb 2019
at 09:11
  • msg #209

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Alright, let's go with the cordon of 'light' spells - Thente and Ceryna + Moira, please make your posts. I need to know how you are using the light spells to scare off the bats (likely an Intimidate check or Animal Handling check with Advantage), any actions you are taking besides that, and how many villagers you are attempting to transport each time (there are about 28 or so in the cavern).
GM
GM, 137 posts
Tue 5 Feb 2019
at 04:52
  • msg #210

Re: OOC Chat - 001

EDIT: I made an edit to the original post, I initially said that all villagers were rescued in one attempt, but in hindsight that was a little too quick, even with the Claires speech and the Cordon.

Apologies for the misdirection, I have amended the post. You did move a significant portion of the group in a round.
Claire Larkspur
player, 53 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 5 Feb 2019
at 06:40
  • msg #211

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I...might be nearly dead again at 4/18 HP, so a heal would be nice! ^^
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 48 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 5 Feb 2019
at 14:12
  • msg #212

Re: OOC Chat - 001

15:12, Today: Doderic Cookingpot rolled 13 using 1d20+1.  Deceptive bugs.

Also updated my post with the roll for reference
GM
GM, 140 posts
Tue 5 Feb 2019
at 14:18
  • msg #213

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Alright. I'll wait to see what Moira, Ceryna and Claire do, then update the post :)

Incidentally, for any who might celebrate it, Happy Chinese New Year!
Moira Ruadh
player, 77 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 5 Feb 2019
at 15:05
  • msg #214

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@DM
Would an Acrobatics check (heh... bats) be useful for evading bats in the effort of ushering out the remaining villagers?
GM
GM, 141 posts
Tue 5 Feb 2019
at 15:26
  • msg #215

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hmm...yes that would would work. Roll away!
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 49 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 6 Feb 2019
at 09:03
  • msg #216

Re: OOC Chat - 001

*shakes fist in mock anger*
I knew I should have taken the Floating disc....
GM
GM, 143 posts
Wed 6 Feb 2019
at 09:18
  • msg #217

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I love that spell, it just feels so thematic. Well, maybe you'll find some scrolls or books of it in the future :x
Moira Ruadh
player, 79 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 6 Feb 2019
at 14:44
  • msg #218

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Spells like Tenser's Floating Disk and Unseen Servant are the best, especially when in the possession of characters who normally wouldn't have them.  Long ago in another game, one of my buddies was playing a Fighter who got his hands on a Ring of Tenser's Floating Disk (our DM was in the habit of using randomized magic item loot tables, which made for chaotic fun).  Which, when paired with a 10-foot pole and his frankly ridiculous STR stat, he rode around like a flying gondola.  :3
This message was last edited by the player at 14:45, Wed 06 Feb 2019.
Thente
player, 82 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 6 Feb 2019
at 18:29
  • msg #219

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 218):

I'm playing a halfling (child) Tomelock in my homegame (long story). She uses Unseen Servants and Tenser's Floating discs as ritual spells all the time to move/do/haul things around for her since she's less than 2' tall ;)

Luckily she has a Broom of Flying so she can hover at eye level and talk to people too ;)
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 48 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Wed 6 Feb 2019
at 21:29
  • msg #220

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Apologies for the silence.  Got slammed by RL.  I will get a post up today.  Appreciate everyone's patience.
GM
GM, 145 posts
Thu 7 Feb 2019
at 01:40
  • msg #221

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No issues, you did tell me you would be occupied over the days. Glad to have you back :)
Claire Larkspur
player, 55 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 7 Feb 2019
at 05:31
  • msg #222

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry for the delay too! Exam season means panicking teachers need me in for more lessons at short notice @.@
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 50 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 7 Feb 2019
at 16:04
  • msg #223

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Go teamwork!

Just to check, is the room that the villagers were the only part of the crave (in addition to the entrance where we encountered the ogres), or is there something more to the left?
Thente
player, 86 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 7 Feb 2019
at 17:09
  • msg #224

Re: OOC Chat - 001

pretty sure there is more as we haven't seen human bodies but they keep talking about others who were dragged away...
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 51 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 7 Feb 2019
at 17:32
  • msg #225

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I presumed that was the folks that went to the forest. *shrug*
Moira Ruadh
player, 80 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 7 Feb 2019
at 17:43
  • msg #226

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well, we still need to examine the cave or ask the survivors if they know anything about the situation at hand.  We've only gone where we can see/directly where we heard sound coming from.  There could be more to the cave.
GM
GM, 148 posts
Fri 8 Feb 2019
at 00:25
  • msg #227

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ah! This was a while ago, but there are at least three other tunnels further into the cave that you have not explored yet.
GM
GM, 150 posts
Fri 8 Feb 2019
at 02:54
  • msg #228

Re: OOC Chat - 001

As a reminder, here's some of the options you guys have (though other options might arise depending on what you look for/ask):

> further explore the cave tunnels, looking for the remaining villagers
> escort the rescued villagers back to Nightstone (note that you have 1 sick and multiple injured)
> go to the forest to search for Claire's father
> investigate the body at the bottom of the cliff
Claire Larkspur
player, 57 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 8 Feb 2019
at 14:53
  • msg #229

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Given that so many things seem rather urgent, do you think it would be a good idea to split up? Going separately might mean we can't brute force the problems as they come, but maybe some creative thinking might work?
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 53 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Fri 8 Feb 2019
at 14:56
  • msg #230

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I was afraid to suggest something similar.
Not sure how well we can handle it, but maybe Moira (and Doderic as support) can try to sneak into the cave and see what's the status of the taken villagers.

And then take the villagers back home, while the rest of you go to the forest?
Investigating the body at the bottom of the cliff seems like least time sensitive.

But still, not a fan of splitting up, especially considering we're quite away from full strength. Maybe we can take a peak while the three of you have a short rest and see where we go from there?
Moira Ruadh
player, 81 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 8 Feb 2019
at 15:04
  • msg #231

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Splitting up to do some scouting seems reasonable.  How many people can cast "Light"?  If we can get at least two, then Moira and Doderick can each take a partially-smothered glowing rock with them to have dim light to navigate by.  That way they're not going full torch light when trying to stealth around.

Meanwhile, everyone who needs it can take a Short Rest.  We won't get any spell slots back that way, but it'll give y'all time to get a little HP back and make any necessary Medicine checks to help the villagers.

When it comes to the villagers themselves, it may be best for them to remain at the mouth of the cave while we investigate the rest.  Those who are still hardy can arm themselves with the Goblin weapons and protect the others, just in case.  I'd feel better about sending them back to the village on their own if we can at least escort them to the split in the road before we proceed on to the forest path to search that one ourselves.
GM
GM, 152 posts
Fri 8 Feb 2019
at 15:09
  • msg #232

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Just chiming in - you can definitely try to Short Rest at the mouth of the cave. There's the possibility of it getting interrupted by goblins, wild animals or the outcome of the scouting mission, but as long as its dealt with quickly I would say it just extends the rest, and doesn't cancel it: https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Resting#content
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 54 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Fri 8 Feb 2019
at 15:15
  • msg #233

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic doesn't have light, so yea... oooops.

And he did cast Armor, so he would actually get a slot back (potential Sleep for the gobbos). More decisions.
Claire Larkspur
player, 59 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 9 Feb 2019
at 13:53
  • msg #234

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Claire's gotten the ball rolling! Didn't mention the short rest idea, but I'll leave that for another character who's more level-headed in the moment to suggest it!
GM
GM, 154 posts
Sat 9 Feb 2019
at 14:16
  • msg #235

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No need for a check, but remember to deduct Healing kit charges for each person you're treating.

If Claire is providing first aid for everyone - the breakdown is roughly:

28 villages
-21with serious injuries (the sick woman and one of the guards cracked his head)
-7 with moderate injuries (combat wounds, fractures)
-10 with light injuries (deep cuts, sprains, large bruises, bat wounds)
-9 with superficial injuries(scraps, bruises, small cuts)

Each will require one charge of the first aid kit regardless. No check needed, but whether you treat them might make a difference later.

EDIT: Forgot Ceryna already treated the sick woman, so disregard that one.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:35, Sat 09 Feb 2019.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 53 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Sat 9 Feb 2019
at 16:49
  • msg #236

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I think we can limit the treatments to the serious and moderate injuries.  Ceryna can take on a total of five of these, four new ones, plus the original treatment of the seriously injured woman.  That would leave her with five uses left in her healing kit.

Ceryna will definitely want to check out the fallen red-head, whom she suspects is her contact, Veradda.  If the party takes a short rest, she will use that time to investigate, as she's uninjured, and wouldn't regain any spells anyway.  If the unfortunate victim is dead, as it appears, perhaps she will have something on her person that will benefit one of the three missions.  If the group votes down a short rest, she will still want to check the body before leaving with Claire.  She considers it a duty for the Temple.

REALLY don't like splitting the party up, especially when our resources are way down.  But ethically (and narratively), I don't see another choice.

Apologies again for a nearly two-day absence -- work and travel, travel and work.  The life of an itinerant consultant in the oil patch...
Moira Ruadh
player, 83 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 9 Feb 2019
at 20:51
  • msg #237

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Let's do a quick checklist on our resources:

NameHPSpell SlotsPotions
Moira14/15
---
1 Healing
Cerynaxx/xx  
Clairexx/xx  
Dodericxx/xx  
Thentexx/xx  

Following that: it took us several hours with the help of a pack animal to avoid taking Exhaustion to get from the village to the caves, so there's no way whatsoever a bunch of badly injured villagers are getting there before the end of the day.  Anyone who attempts to escort the NPCs back home is going to be reasonably be out of play for the rest of the rescue scenario, so let's keep that in mind here.

The caves can't be that big, so it shouldn't take us too long to sort the rest out since we already have an idea of where to go.  My proposal is:

1) Those healthy among the villagers arm themselves with the Goblin weapons.
2) Moira and Doderic scout ahead into the caves.
3) Meanwhile, the rest of the party stays put and attempts a Short Rest.
4) Any of the current party who can spare not Short Resting slips out to investigate the dead body outside, then returns immediately.

Depending on what Moira and Doderic find, they can either confront it themselves if it's a reasonable risk or one can call back to the rest while another tries to hold the line.

When it is time to finally leave the caves, one way or another, we can decide at the crossroads who goes with the villagers (presumably those in the party too spent to be of much use in further combat) and who goes with Claire in search of her father.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 54 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Sat 9 Feb 2019
at 21:30
  • msg #238

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
Let's do a quick checklist on our resources:

NameHPSpell SlotsPotions
Moira14/15
---
1 Healing
Ceryna14/14
1
5/10 uses Healer’s Kit
Clairexx/xx  
Dodericxx/xx  
Thentexx/xx  

Thente
player, 89 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 06:55
  • msg #239

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ceryna Vantellon:
Let's do a quick checklist on our resources:

NameHPSpell SlotsPotions
Moira14/15
---
1 Healing
Ceryna14/14
1
5/10 uses Healer’s Kit
Clairexx/xx  
Dodericxx/xx  
Thente09/16
1
1 Healing

Claire also has the Potion of Heroism that Kell gave us.

I don't get any spells back on a short rest, but I can use a hit die to heal up.

EDIT: after I edit my IC post, I’ll be at 10
Hp and have 6 Goodberrys left for a bit more healing.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:28, Sun 10 Feb 2019.
Claire Larkspur
player, 60 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 13:04
  • msg #240

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
Let's do a quick checklist on our resources:

NameHPSpell SlotsPotions
Moira14/15
---
1 Healing
Ceryna14/14
1
5/10 uses Healer’s Kit
Claire04/18
---
6/10 uses Healer’s Kit
Dodericxx/xx  
Thente09/16
1
1 Healing

</quote>

And yes, Claire also has the Potion of Heroism, plus one of the healing vials that Thente just passed to her.

I'll probably use a hit die to heal up too. Other than that, I think our general plans seem sound.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 56 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 13:53
  • msg #241

Re: OOC Chat - 001

quote:
NameHPSpell SlotsPotions
Moira14/15
---
1 Healing
Ceryna14/14
1
5/10 uses Healer’s Kit
Claire04/18
---
6/10 uses Healer’s Kit
Doderic14/14
2/3
---
Thente09/16
1
1 Healing


Sounds like a plan! Says the halfling about to enter goblin's lair. I'm sure there are sayings advising against that.
GM
GM, 156 posts
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 14:15
  • msg #242

Re: OOC Chat - 001


Moira Ruadh
player, 84 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 20:53
  • msg #243

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Given the remaining HP values - if Claire doesn't drink the Potion and relies on a Short Rest to heal instead, then she and Thente should stay to watch the villagers and rest.  Moira, Doderic, and Ceryna can scout ahead to more immediately deal with any threats if we went to take it as more than just "look but not touch".  Three of us delving in are better equipped to fight.  Just because Ceryna is low on spells doesn't mean she can't still fight, after all.  If Clare does drink and gets back to full HP or close too it, she could reasonably come along too and leave Thente to watch the entrance.  If heavier armor gives anyone Disadvantage on stealth, Moira can use the Help ability to make it a straight roll, or Ceryna and/or Claire can just trail along 20 or so feet behind the Halflings so as not to interfere with their skulking.

How's that sound?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:54, Sun 10 Feb 2019.
Thente
player, 92 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 21:04
  • msg #244

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I think you two scout and observe and if there are threats, run back to get all of us.

If they engage you withdraw and run back and start screaming and we come in. Claire will drink the potion I gave her to heal, I’m at 10 right now with a spell left still.

If you want help, wait and we can all go in. The potion of heroism is 10 temp hp that Claire or Thente could use plus the benefit of bless for an hour with no concentration.

Ceryna and thente are going to pull the body up right now. You guys aren’t going to be gone for an hour is my guess, so any short rest won’t have happened until you get back anyway.

If we don’t want to split the party, then everyone come help pull the body up, we can do that pretty quickly as a group, then we all go in again at the hp we have after potions. Thente can eat a couple more berries to get to 13 and leave just one in emergency reserve.
Moira Ruadh
player, 85 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 21:28
  • msg #245

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Given what we've learned so far, I get the feeling that we're on a timer of sorts, so all of us waiting around isn't an option.  At least Doderic and Moira are going now, so whether or not anyone will follow them at distance, I'll leave up to y'all.
Thente
player, 93 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 22:48
  • msg #246

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sure... i get it. Just trying to provide options!

GM - how far down is that body, and what kind of checks do you want to try and retrieve it?
GM
GM, 157 posts
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 23:56
  • msg #247

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Body is about 70ft down, and would require an Atheletics check to scale down to, or to carry back up.

Alternatives might exist depending on the party's approach :)
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:57, Sun 10 Feb 2019.
Thente
player, 94 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 11 Feb 2019
at 00:45
  • msg #248

Re: OOC Chat - 001

We received a climber's kit, pitons, 50' of rope, and a grappling hook. Thente also has 50' of rope. So we have enough rope to get us down there. It'll take a while to do with the full safety of the climber's kit, but doable without too much danger.

Thente can tie loops around the woman's arms, then Ceryna and guards can haul the body up, let the rope down and I can repeat the climb back up...

Mechanically the climber's kit is a bit weird, but I assume you anchor, climb down 25' re-anchor, climb back up and undo the top anchor, climb down 25', anchor, climb back up undo the anchor at 25' and repeat until you get down?
GM
GM, 158 posts
Mon 11 Feb 2019
at 08:14
  • msg #249

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yeap! Its mostly a safety device thing - have a climbers kit not only reduces the DC of your athletics check but also provides a stop gap if you fail.

You would take twice as long to scale though (up from like a few minutes to maybe 10?). Otherwise, the plan seems good. I would need Athletics check from Thente to scale down, and a second one for scaling up again. Mostly to check if you injure yourself in the process :P

The combined strength score of Ceryna and guards can easily haul the body, so that parts fine.
Thente
player, 95 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 11 Feb 2019
at 08:26
  • msg #250

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well... hopefully it lowers the DC a lot :0


00:25, Today: Thente rolled 8,12 using 1d20+2,1d20+2.  Athletics checks, body retrieval.

GM
GM, 159 posts
Mon 11 Feb 2019
at 09:52
  • msg #251

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Oh dear.

Mind posting this in the main thread? I'll update the results once I get home.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 58 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 11 Feb 2019
at 13:41
  • msg #252

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira, any preferences? Doderic will likely pick the one that doesn't descend.
GM
GM, 161 posts
Mon 11 Feb 2019
at 14:15
  • msg #253

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Out of curiosity, in situations like these (where players are actively exploring and looking out for danger), do you guys prefer:

1) DM to prompt you for perception checks
2) DM to use your Passive Perception
3) DM to roll for you
4) DM to say nothing
Moira Ruadh
player, 88 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 11 Feb 2019
at 14:55
  • msg #254

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Doderic - I'd say go for the northwest tunnel, on the logic that deeper into the cave is more secure and thus likely where our yet-to-be-seen boss Goblin is hiding.

@DM
I prefer a combination of the two.  Passive Perception should be on at all times, but active skill checks should take precedent over them when necessary.  I'm of the school that skill checks are prompted by the DM when relevant.  Generally speaking, I feel players shouldn't make skill checks unless they're actively attempting something unprompted, at which point it's up to the DM to decide whether or not to count it.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:17, Mon 11 Feb 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 60 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 11 Feb 2019
at 19:48
  • msg #255

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I appreciate the promp for the check. Feel free to use passive scores if we're dense.
Thente
player, 97 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 11 Feb 2019
at 22:45
  • msg #256

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic - you said that you have sleep right?

I'm thinking if/when we survive to 3rd level I'm going to swap sleep out for witchbolt, which is much more thematic for Thente's origin. My sleep served us well, but if you have it, there is less reason for Thente to use a precious spell known on it.

Also - my 2nd level spell will probably be Enlarge/Reduce Person, just to continue into his theme as a giant soul.
GM
GM, 163 posts
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 03:17
  • msg #257

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ceryna, searching the body will be an investigation check, not perception. I can use the original roll and just adjust for your bonus if you are okay with that.

Conversely, Doderic - looking for the villager's trail would normally be a survival check. That said, I can stick with the investigation roll and give you information that an investigation check would reveal about the area. Or I can use your current roll be apply survival to it instead - which do you prefer?
GM
GM, 164 posts
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 05:00
  • msg #258

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No need for rolls from Thente, mostly just waiting to see what Ceryna/Doderics opinions are on their checks before I reply.

Also need to type out a loot list @_@
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 61 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 05:50
  • msg #259

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thante, yea I have it so switch away. I'm still considering my 2nd lvl spells. Likely something offensive for one.

GM, good point. I'll stick with investigation. Thanks for checking with me.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 56 posts
AC17/PP15/HP(14)14/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 06:14
  • msg #260

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
Ceryna, searching the body will be an investigation check, not perception. I can use the original roll and just adjust for your bonus if you are okay with that.


That's fine, thank you!

Edit:  I modified my post accordingly...
This message was last edited by the player at 06:28, Tue 12 Feb 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 62 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 11:02
  • msg #261

Re: OOC Chat - 001

A counter question, how long do Stealth/perception rolls last?
I.e. do I need new stealth for the second section, or is that still covered. If we stopped here for a while and rolled perception, do we roll another for moving down a specific tunnel?

In general: What are the criteria (if any, might be case by case) for repeated rolls?
GM
GM, 167 posts
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 11:15
  • msg #262

Re: OOC Chat - 001

1) Situation changes (monster enters, new external factors, player moves to a new area or triggers something)
2) Player spends long enough doing something that's not part of the initial action that the situation might have changed.

As a general rule of thumb, action by the player that changes the situation would warrant/allow for a reroll on checks, though the results of those checks may be limited to the object/area influenced by the action.

So if you fail the perception check to notice the sounds of squeaking in the walls and the stealthing rogue in the dimly lit corridor, lighting a torch may let you reroll the check to see the rogue, but will not help with the rats ready to burst out of the ceiling.

Tldr; I will prompt you as the DM for repeated rolls.
GM
GM, 169 posts
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 15:55
  • msg #263

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Thente the flower grants any plumber that eats it the ability to shoot small bolts of fire, as the firebolt spell for 1 minute

/noncanon
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:01, Tue 12 Feb 2019.
Thente
player, 100 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 16:35
  • msg #264

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 263):

Haha nice ;)
Moira Ruadh
player, 90 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 16:45
  • msg #265

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 263):

Darn, the Plumber prestige class is still in Unearthed Arcana testing.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 65 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 17:09
  • msg #266

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira, I'm afraid that they'll revoke your rogue license. Wizard beating you on stealth checks, not being present during looting...
At least your backstabbing is on par.
Moira Ruadh
player, 91 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 17:12
  • msg #267

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Nah, I'm going Swashbuckler archetype, not sneaky assassin-type Rogue.  In another level I'm all about being up front and flashy, more so than the Sorcerer.  :3c

@DM
Since the sleeping Goblin is effectively helpless (being Unconscious-status at the very least), could he just be auto-killed without needing to roll?
This message was last edited by the player at 17:14, Tue 12 Feb 2019.
Thente
player, 102 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 17:18
  • msg #268

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Doderic - we're not looting, we're making an accounting of her possessions in case any are needed by the group ;)

@Moira - please bring it to the front line... The more targets the better for me!

I'd think the gobo would be like the ogre, who we basically auto-killed once he was asleep.
GM
GM, 171 posts
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 17:27
  • msg #269

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Moira yeap, you can you murder it straight up if you like :P

Regarding the loot thead, I'm putting each item out individually for now, feel free to hash out distribution of non-monetary assets here.

Once you guys go back to town I'm fine with assuming you eventually liquidate everything and split it into gold. That said, I find that individual treasure items are a key part of looting and enjoy writing their descriptions, even if most of you are just going to skim to the value part and sell them all off later >_<
Thente
player, 103 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 12 Feb 2019
at 17:40
  • msg #270

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That'll be an interesting IC discussion! Though I think generally we'll mostly be on the same page.

@DM - I appreciate the discrete items too. Sometimes there are "fun" items that make an inventory sheet unique... even if we do liquidate the majority ;)
This message was last edited by the player at 17:41, Tue 12 Feb 2019.
Claire Larkspur
player, 63 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 13 Feb 2019
at 01:09
  • msg #271

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Let me know when my 1 hour short rest is up!
GM
GM, 174 posts
Wed 13 Feb 2019
at 15:52
  • msg #272

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I would say you can participate in inspecting the loot without compromising your rest.

As far as time passed, i'd say about 10-15mins. Maybe less for Doderic/Moira's group.
Thente
player, 107 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 14 Feb 2019
at 02:00
  • msg #273

Re: OOC Chat - 001

At what point in inspecting gear and such does Doderic come back to us (assuming he makes his stealth check).
GM
GM, 177 posts
Thu 14 Feb 2019
at 02:52
  • msg #274

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm just going to be lazy and say he comes back after Ceryna has finished identifying stuff.

Give me a couple minutes to update everything with information from Ceryna's checks.

EDIT: Wow you made all the important ones. I had DCs set for each depending on the uniqueness on the item and Ceryna basically got them in the right order.

I assumed that she would not try to read the note or open the books until the party is ready to confer, and left it at that for now.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:15, Thu 14 Feb 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 68 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 14 Feb 2019
at 06:44
  • msg #275

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well... it was bound to happen.
Doderic Cookingpot rolled 11 using 1d20+3.  Sneaking away.

Do I have inspiration? As I'd likely use it now.
GM
GM, 180 posts
Thu 14 Feb 2019
at 07:43
  • msg #276

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Nope! Fun times :D

EDIT: That is to say, its not 'failure' but I always find it the most fun when things don't go as we expected :P
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:55, Thu 14 Feb 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 69 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 14 Feb 2019
at 08:20
  • msg #277

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So, Doderic is likely aware of this turn of events? He'll return to Moira to consult if they deal with the situation or he still gets the others first.
GM
GM, 182 posts
Thu 14 Feb 2019
at 09:01
  • msg #278

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic would have heard the goblin talk as he moved off, you can choose to have him stay or head back anyway - just edit your original post to remove the assumed chat with Claire and post a new one with his resultant action.

Also, this is why posting out of time is a headache. Something to KIV next time >_>
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 71 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 14 Feb 2019
at 09:12
  • msg #279

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ooops. Again. But now I'm very curious what's happening in the cavern.
GM
GM, 183 posts
Thu 14 Feb 2019
at 09:28
  • msg #280

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So am I!

...wait.
Claire Larkspur
player, 66 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 14 Feb 2019
at 16:32
  • msg #281

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Thente Seeing as my short rest hasn't been interrupted yet, I'll hold off on drinking the potion!
Moira Ruadh
player, 94 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 14 Feb 2019
at 17:56
  • msg #282

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@DM
About those three different Goblinoid statements Doderic and Moira heard - was it one voice yelling three different things, or multiple Goblins talking back and forth to each other?
GM
GM, 184 posts
Thu 14 Feb 2019
at 23:21
  • msg #283

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Bit hard to tell with gobs. Least two.

EDIT they were kind of hushed? It definitely wasn't the cry of a squadron of them, if that helps.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:52, Thu 14 Feb 2019.
Claire Larkspur
player, 67 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 14 Feb 2019
at 23:45
  • msg #284

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Ceryna, Thente

Wait a minute, why does the box have Gentle Repose on it?
Thente
player, 110 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 00:58
  • msg #285

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Claire Larkspur (msg # 284):

It's not gentle repose, at least I think. The description said its a preservation spell and DM likened it to gentle repose
GM
GM, 187 posts
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 01:02
  • msg #286

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
In reply to Claire Larkspur (msg # 284):

It's not gentle repose, at least I think. The description said its a preservation spell and DM likened it to gentle repose


This. Though I can understand Claire's concern :P

I'll add that I said Ceryna made all the important checks, not all the checks
Claire Larkspur
player, 69 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 01:17
  • msg #287

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ah, I see!
GM
GM, 192 posts
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 03:52
  • msg #288

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Unfortunately Ceryna was sleeping during the lecture on "Dragon Cultists and where to find them".
GM
GM, 193 posts
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 04:19
  • msg #289

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm going to wait until Moira and Doderic's situation with the gobs is resolved before switching back to the group outside. Apologies, but depending on how they handle things there might be consequences for the entire party, so I'd rather not go too far either way.

@Moira, Doderic
No pressure! :P
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 63 posts
AC17/PP15/HP15/15/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 04:39
  • msg #290

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 289):

Completely understand.

Little folks, good luck to ye!
Claire Larkspur
player, 71 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 07:04
  • msg #291

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
Unfortunately Ceryna was sleeping during the lecture on "Dragon Cultists and where to find them".


I feel like that might have been the only lecture Claire was awake for :P
This message was last edited by the player at 07:05, Fri 15 Feb 2019.
Thente
player, 111 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 07:44
  • msg #292

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 289):

Understood!
Thente
player, 112 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 15:34
  • msg #293

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira - just an idea, since you speak goblin, you could try a deception that you're the dead gobo behind you...

it might end up like Han, but worth a shot?
quote:
Gobo: Stay back! No stabs! Or da gurl gets it!
Moira: Uh, everything is under control. Situation normal.
Gobo: What happened?
Moira: [flustered] Uh, had a slight weapons malfunction. But, uh, everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
Gobo: Sending guards, see why you dumb!
Moira: Uh, uh, negative, negative. We had a green slime leak here now. Give us a few minutes to lock it down. Large leak... very dangerous.
'Gobo: Who is dat?? What you sayin'?
Moira: Uh... [throws her dagger killing a guard] Boring conversation anyway. Doderic, we're gonna have company!

GM
GM, 194 posts
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 15:51
  • msg #294

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira doesn't speak Goblin :x

None of the party does I think
Thente
player, 113 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 16:05
  • msg #295

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Oh! I thought she was translating goblin speak for us earlier. Bad memory, sorry!
Moira Ruadh
player, 96 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 16:30
  • msg #296

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Thente (msg # 293):

Amusingly enough, that's pretty much what Moira was doing with the Ogres earlier as she does, in fact, speak Giant.
Thente
player, 114 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 16:40
  • msg #297

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 296):

That's what I was remembering.

In downtime, Thente is going to ask Moira to start teaching her giant. Hopefully she is a patient teacher if she's willing ;)
Moira Ruadh
player, 98 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 16:49
  • msg #298

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'd certainly be willing, though hopefully we can work with some less-intense rules for how to learn a new skill.  RAW for picking up a new language is pretty insane.  Perhaps the conditions could be eased for partial fluency?  Sort of the "Giant Speech 101" community college version?

Learning a New Language or Skill Proficiency - PHB Part 2 Adventuring p.187:
First, you must find an instructor willing to teach you. The DM determines how long it takes, and whether one or more ability checks are required. The training lasts for 250 days and costs 1 gp per day. After you spend the requisite amount of time and money, you learn the new language or gain proficiency with the new tool.


The idea of it taking nearly a year of daily practice and Moira charging Thente 250 GP for the service is... well, it's frankly ridiculous.
Thente
player, 115 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 16:55
  • msg #299

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Lol, yeah. I think the 1 gp/day is if you're hiring an NPC expert to do that, so I doubt we'd have to do that part.

The 200 days is actually pretty fast vs. learning to speak/read/write a language IRL. Maybe we could decrease the time if GM would allow us to say Thente learns to speak but not read/write?
GM
GM, 196 posts
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 17:00
  • msg #300

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I think since Moira is willing, we can waive the gold cost. And the duration can be done over the campaign - I'll say given his sorcerous heritage, with about a month or 30 days of training Thente would be able to speak and understand basic Giant, but at a very poor level (he will get the language group, but makes everything related to communicating in that language with a very high DC). He won't be able to read/write in that language.

This will slowly lower as Moira teaches him more and you guys encounter more giants. Eventually it will be full prof.

I don't want to cut it too much, but a quarter duration for 1/3 of the language benefits for an on theme character seems appropriate.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:07, Fri 15 Feb 2019.
GM
GM, 198 posts
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 17:06
  • msg #301

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Also it's late here but I'll be back online in about 8 hours. Excited to see how you guys tackle this situation :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 99 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 17:08
  • msg #302

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 300):

That sounds fair to me, DM, and right along the same lines I was thinking.  Once they begin training in it, I'd say it would be safe to assume Moira and Thente (and anyone else who wants to learn) could set aside a few hours each day to practice, such as during their Rest periods or while they're traveling.  Just something to have on the backburner at all times.
Thente
player, 116 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 17:10
  • msg #303

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 301):

Me too! I've never worked for a goblin boss before! ;)
GM
GM, 199 posts
Fri 15 Feb 2019
at 17:13
  • msg #304

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'd say only Thente can get this benefit, on account of his heritage and Moira tutoring him exclusively. Anyone else can learn and maybe pick up some phrases or words, but they won't get the language group. (they'll probably only remember the swear words anyway)

But yea this can be backburned, we'll track it loosely and upgrade as it goes.
GM
GM, 201 posts
Sat 16 Feb 2019
at 07:41
  • msg #305

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira, would need another persuasion check for the goblin.
Moira Ruadh
player, 102 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 16 Feb 2019
at 07:59
  • msg #306

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh rolled 8 using 1d20+5

Can I roll with Advantage on grounds of common sense dictating that Moira can't possibly move the rock on her own?  Or should I try a different approach if the Goblins aren't going to help?
Moira Ruadh
player, 103 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 16 Feb 2019
at 18:05
  • msg #307

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Doderic
I've been dominating the moment a bit.  Doderic - should I ease off so you can get up to anything, or did you just want to hang back until things inevitably go sideways and leap in then?

@DM
When the female Goblin came to help, did she lower the curtain and thus block off view between Moira and Hark?  Or did she somehow bind it out of the way so Hark can keep an eye on things?
GM
GM, 203 posts
Sat 16 Feb 2019
at 19:41
  • msg #308

Re: OOC Chat - 001

She dropped the curtain! Hark doesn't have a view of you guys at the moment :D
GM
GM, 204 posts
Sun 17 Feb 2019
at 02:52
  • msg #309

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I know I said I didn't want to go too far either way, but for the group outside, if you want to try out the magic items or discuss what to do with the body, please feel free to do so.

The main thing I'm holding back on is the result of the short rest and the subsequent trip to the forest.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 73 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sun 17 Feb 2019
at 14:20
  • msg #310

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic is more than happy letting Moira take the lead. I also got jumped by life and thus lack of posts.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 75 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 18 Feb 2019
at 05:35
  • msg #311

Re: OOC Chat - 001

06:33, Today: Doderic Cookingpot rolled 21 using 1d20+4.  Lucky history.

Better than last time. But still, 2 nat 1s ^^
GM
GM, 207 posts
Mon 18 Feb 2019
at 10:49
  • msg #312

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Nice roll! Though it looks like combat might be coming up for Doderic and Moira (unless you choose to involve the other two). I actually posted a response until I realized that it wasn't quite fair that Moira hadn't gotten a chance to react.

I think for future scenarios, I'm going to try to avoid cluttering up the threads like this, maybe by splitting a second thread for 'side missions' instead. Also just try to avoid splitting the party like this if possible.

EDIT: Not saying that you guys shouldn't split the party, but more that I should, as a DM, avoid creating situations where one half waits for the other half. In the future, if there looks like a scenario where the party will benefit from splitting, I'll readjust to sync things better ^_^
This message was last edited by the GM at 10:55, Mon 18 Feb 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 77 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 18 Feb 2019
at 12:11
  • msg #313

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I agree that it isn't ideal, and would be fine with separate threads for each group if it happens again.
All things considered, I feel like it was inevitable for splitting up considering the amount of stuff happening.
GM
GM, 208 posts
Mon 18 Feb 2019
at 15:07
  • msg #314

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yea I'll see how it goes in the future.

In the meanwhile, I've knocked up a quick version of the 'treasure map' with its symbols superimposed on the 'high quality' map (to save players some effort).

Have a look here (high quality image): https://imgur.com/xEJOoLz

Some of you might want to Scratchpad the link.

I would add it to 'Game Maps' but rpol has pretty low max resolutions that make the current one blurrier than I would like.

Just some things to discuss in the meantime ;)
Thente
player, 119 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 19 Feb 2019
at 00:29
  • msg #315

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So did my 20 Perception check gear them?

Edit: autocorrect! Hear not gear!
This message was last edited by the player at 00:43, Tue 19 Feb 2019.
GM
GM, 210 posts
Tue 19 Feb 2019
at 00:38
  • msg #316

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yes. Yes it did :)
GM
GM, 211 posts
Tue 19 Feb 2019
at 04:17
  • msg #317

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I swear im getting really strong "Avengers Assemble!" vibes from the Claire and Thente's posts.

TO THE BATMOBILE
Thente
player, 121 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 19 Feb 2019
at 04:19
  • msg #318

Re: OOC Chat - 001

hehe - I am wearing the goggles as we're going into the caverns this time.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:20, Tue 19 Feb 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 106 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 19 Feb 2019
at 06:52
  • msg #319

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Gotta be honest - I was REALLY hoping to have rolled well on that Deception check to get Hark to come investigate so we could force him into the slime room via boot-to-the-ass.
GM
GM, 212 posts
Tue 19 Feb 2019
at 06:57
  • msg #320

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It would have been a pretty tough DC given his attitude towards you, but I definitely would have allowed it given how you seem to have figured his personality traits. Ah well, sometimes the dice fall as they do :x
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 78 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 19 Feb 2019
at 10:41
  • msg #321

Re: OOC Chat - 001

11:40, Today: Doderic Cookingpot rolled 11 using 1d20+3.  Initiative.
11:40, Today: Doderic Cookingpot rolled 15 using 1d20+4.  Moldy arcana.

GM
GM, 213 posts
Wed 20 Feb 2019
at 02:52
  • msg #322

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In the future, do try to post rolls relevant to the game in the game channel. If you aren't doing anything besides rolling, you can update the previous post or just post it standalone, I am okay with that.

Still waiting on inits from Moira and Ceryna.
Moira Ruadh
player, 107 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 20 Feb 2019
at 02:58
  • msg #323

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry, thought I'd posted it earlier.  I rolled a 19 for Initiative yesterday and have now updated my post with the roll.
Moira Ruadh
player, 108 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 20 Feb 2019
at 14:59
  • msg #324

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@DM
Mechanics question - since Moira already has a source of fire active on her person, could she ignite and throw an Oil Flask as part of the same Action?
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 65 posts
AC17/PP15/HP15/15/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Wed 20 Feb 2019
at 21:56
  • msg #325

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hey all, I'm swamped right now, on the road, and posting from my phone.  Things should stabilize early next week, but my responses might be be shaky for a few days again.  I understand the need to charge forward, so I am about to post with Initiative, but feel free to carry Ceryna to some general actions, DM, just to keep things moving.

Generally, assume that she will hang to the back and blast with Fire Bolts, using her healing kit if/as needed.  Knowing that she will have to help rescue Claire's father and the others with him, she will avoid using her last 1st level spell for that endeavor if at all possible.  If not, she'll burn it...
GM
GM, 215 posts
Thu 21 Feb 2019
at 00:46
  • msg #326

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
@DM
Mechanics question - since Moira already has a source of fire active on her person, could she ignite and throw an Oil Flask as part of the same Action?


I'll say igniting the oil flask with an already lit source is a bonus action. Note that Doderic's firebolt counts as a source of fire for ignition as well, so you don't actually need to do that.

@Ceryna
No issue! Thank you for informing me, for all we know, combat might resolve itself before any of this happens! Maybe.
Claire Larkspur
player, 73 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 21 Feb 2019
at 07:21
  • msg #327

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Added my initiative roll to my earlier post - a very speedy 4.
Moira Ruadh
player, 110 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 21 Feb 2019
at 15:18
  • msg #328

Re: OOC Chat - 001

D&D PSA: Please remember that you don't need to be a Rogue in order to use the Disengage Action on your turn.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 80 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 21 Feb 2019
at 15:20
  • msg #329

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I know...
Still debating that vs. casting

P.S. or dodging
This message was last edited by the player at 15:24, Thu 21 Feb 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 112 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 21 Feb 2019
at 15:42
  • msg #330

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Normally I'm of the "Don't dodge, that's what AC is for" school of thought.  But when it's an Ooze... well, that's a whole other affair.
Thente
player, 122 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 21 Feb 2019
at 16:31
  • msg #331

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Moira - I'd put the extra 5 fire damage in your Round 2 action block from the previous round's attack, just so we keep reminding our GM in all the ways possible ;)

@Doderic - If you do withdraw it doesn't get Opp. Att. and it would have to use all it's actions to get to you again. Just a thought.
Moira Ruadh
player, 113 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 21 Feb 2019
at 16:41
  • msg #332

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I can add it on, sure.  Though I'm honestly not certain if the damage procs at the start of my turn or the end of the Ooze's turn, or if that split hair even matters at this point.

@Regarding Movement Options
Also, since the Black Pudding is a Large-size creature and Doderic is a Halfling, he can move through its space without having to spend extra Movement.  Moira and Doderic can both run it in circles by slipping past it up and down the hall without it ever really being able to catch up with them without burning its Action for a Dash.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:46, Thu 21 Feb 2019.
GM
GM, 217 posts
Thu 21 Feb 2019
at 16:44
  • msg #333

Re: OOC Chat - 001

End of the oozes turn. https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Oil#content

I'm going with the 'lasts for 2 rounds' thing applying to the case when you set it on fire too.
Moira Ruadh
player, 114 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 21 Feb 2019
at 16:47
  • msg #334

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yep, that's how I read it for duration.  2 rounds, which includes when it's first ignited.
Thente
player, 123 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 21 Feb 2019
at 19:31
  • msg #335

Re: OOC Chat - 001

For reading the map question - which way are we coming in from? which way was the curtain the the goblin's sound like are on the other side of? I.e. Is Moira moving towards the goblins? Is Doderic?
GM
GM, 218 posts
Fri 22 Feb 2019
at 00:30
  • msg #336

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Goblins are straight north.

You guys approached from the little tunnel Moira is running through now.

Doderic is going down a completely different tunnel.
GM
GM, 220 posts
Fri 22 Feb 2019
at 02:12
  • msg #337

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Between Doderic and Moira I'm kind of out of combat map. I could extend the cave I'm using but its been modified so the pictures don't -quite- line up. The encounter can plausible end this round anyway, with the amount of damage the party can put out :P

Going to dig around for a better map-making program so I can reuse/edit assets better...

Also if the spongebob image is annoying I can remove it
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:12, Fri 22 Feb 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 115 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 22 Feb 2019
at 03:21
  • msg #338

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Given the theater-of-the-mind approach for the moment and the weird shape of the cave walls, I'll need to rely on your fiat for aiming, DM.  Can I safely say that Moira can skirt in 25', attack at range, and then scoot back out 25' on her Bonus Action each turn?
GM
GM, 221 posts
Fri 22 Feb 2019
at 03:51
  • msg #339

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The ooze isn't making any attempt at cover, so sure.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 82 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Fri 22 Feb 2019
at 10:48
  • msg #340

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'd say that Spongebob is scarier than the pudding at this point. Certainly took me by surprise when I opened the posts in the morning...
GM
GM, 222 posts
Fri 22 Feb 2019
at 13:58
  • msg #341

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It's a bit immersion breaking, but I really couldn't resist :x
Thente
player, 124 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 22 Feb 2019
at 16:38
  • msg #342

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM - are you waiting on Ceryna to post before acting again for the black pudding? She'd said that she would be kind of AFK for a bit so to just generic action her?
GM
GM, 224 posts
Sat 23 Feb 2019
at 01:17
  • msg #343

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It was less waiting and more just being busy IRL :P

Thente, are looking for something specifically in your last post? I'm trying to decide if you are actively trying make a check for something
Thente
player, 126 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sat 23 Feb 2019
at 01:30
  • msg #344

Re: OOC Chat - 001

He's just looking around in the space. If he sees the Tiamat statue he would move in to take a deeper look at that based on the map he'd found earlier... but that also depends on Moira's or Doderic's response and recommendations from here.
GM
GM, 225 posts
Sat 23 Feb 2019
at 06:29
  • msg #345

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Anyone looking around can catch sight of the statue inside the treasure room, so yes Thente would have seen Tiamat.

Curious what you guys might do :x
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 84 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sat 23 Feb 2019
at 08:20
  • msg #346

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Happy trip GM. And so glad that our choice to investigate opened up more question/problems/tasks than it solved. It's like real life!
Moira Ruadh
player, 119 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 23 Feb 2019
at 20:38
  • msg #347

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Just a heads up - my apartment blew a fuse and I may be without power all weekend.  Posting from my phone is a pain, so don't expect much activity from me until Monday.
GM
GM, 228 posts
Mon 25 Feb 2019
at 13:17
  • msg #348

Re: OOC Chat - 001

There's no real rush, but I'll like to get some confirmation on how the party is approaching the situation: are you going to try to trick the goblins? Pressure them? Or just go back and see if they hand over the hostage?
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:17, Mon 25 Feb 2019.
Thente
player, 130 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 25 Feb 2019
at 23:05
  • msg #349

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Edited in.

When I'm on a bad streak on rpol, I'm on a bad streak. 10+ rolls today (aside from my stealth) have been sub-6. Most recently I rolled a 2 (1+1) on a Cure Light Wounds potion in another game, then a 3 on a heal check to save someone in another game, and now... 6 & 6.
Moira Ruadh
player, 123 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 14:29
  • msg #350

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Now the question is: do we kill Hark here and now, or tie him up and let the Nightstone survivors decide what to do with him?

@DM
If we do decide Hark dies here, do he and his sleeping guard auto-die like the other Goblin earlier since they're helpless?  Or would he actually require rolls since he's a Boss enemy?
This message was last edited by the player at 14:30, Thu 28 Feb 2019.
GM
GM, 235 posts
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 15:24
  • msg #351

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hmm. Normally I would have rolls for a boss enemy, but you've parlayed long enough, and as a gob he doesn't have much HP either.

Auto death is fine, make it dramatic ;)
Moira Ruadh
player, 124 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 15:27
  • msg #352

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Good to know.  What's the vote, folks?  Moira's the closest one within stabbing distance and oh-so-inclined to murderize the hell out of Hark right now.  Kill or capture?
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 88 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 15:41
  • msg #353

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic ain't a fan of it but won't stop her.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 71 posts
AC17/PP15/HP15/15/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 16:10
  • msg #354

Re: OOC Chat - 001

From an IC standpoint, particularly concerning Hark, Ceryna feels the same as Doderic.

OOC-ly, I'm fine with ending Hark, but I'd suggest keeping at least one of the guards and one of the females alive, in case the other townsfolk are living but hidden somewhere.  They can be turned over to the townsfolk after we confirm one way or the other.
Thente
player, 132 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 16:12
  • msg #355

Re: OOC Chat - 001

You guys are nice... I was going to suggest pushing Hark into the pit with his rats and let them do to him what they did to the villagers.

So I guess I'm ok with auto-death? :)
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 73 posts
AC17/PP15/HP15/15/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 16:26
  • msg #356

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
You guys are nice... I was going to suggest pushing Hark into the pit with his rats and let them do to him what they did to the villagers.

So I guess I'm ok with auto-death? :)


LOL!  I generally play PCs with a little more moral grayness than Ceryna, so I generally sympathize with this *ahem* somewhat callous attitude.  ;-)
Moira Ruadh
player, 125 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 16:50
  • msg #357

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I was absolutely considering hucking Hark in with the rats, but then we'd have to kill the rats if we wanted to loot him.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Now then, let's see if we can't rely on good ol'Goblin survival instinct and desire to be the new boss to get some cooperation from the remaining Gobbos.

Related note:
In another SKT game - the one Moira originated from in my first time playing a Rogue, actually - that was how Hark bit it in the end.  The party managed to completely get the drop on Hark; Moira stole his scimitar out of his belt before he even realized they were there.  She then had a brief conversation with him over his actions, slit his throat with his own sword, and shoulder-checked him into the rat pit.

That part of the game had a rather grim tone to it, overall, to be honest.  Slightly lightened by the fact that the party had actually managed to befriend the pair of Ogres and get them to turn on the Goblins through positive reinforcement and compliments.  :3
This message was last edited by the player at 17:13, Thu 28 Feb 2019.
GM
GM, 236 posts
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 17:33
  • msg #358

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Aw, Poor Hark.

Yeah, the situation in the cave here was inspired by the book, but was modified to account for some of the changes I've made.

Ceryna has made a check against the guard to surrender, but I'll like Moira to make a check of her own as well (intimidate with advantage)

I'm currently a bit busy so I can't quite type a full post now, but expect an update in about 10 hours or so.
Moira Ruadh
player, 127 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 17:40
  • msg #359

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Not feeling sorry for anyone who keeps a giant rat pit.  That's just a sign of poor management priorities.  :3

I rolled 16 on Intimidation and added the roll into my post.  Part of me wants to argue for using Persuasion since the hostage situation has inverted itself here, but Moira is negotiating via bloodshed, so Intimidation is understandable.
Thente
player, 134 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 18:41
  • msg #360

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente is eyeing the giant rats and thinking "the town could use some food..." but then he'd remember that THESE rats had just EATEN villagers and the circular nature of that would have sent him into a stupor from which he can't recover....!

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that about Hark!

Before Doderic posted I was thinking about running in and thunderwaving the lot of them down into the rat pit. Dod's plan is better!
This message was last edited by the player at 04:26, Fri 01 Mar 2019.
Claire Larkspur
player, 78 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 23:34
  • msg #361

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Claire would be of similar mind to Ceryna and Doderic!
Moira Ruadh
player, 129 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 2 Mar 2019
at 06:19
  • msg #362

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Once we've stripped Hark of anything useful and perhaps put the Goblins into the cage just in case, I'd like to kill off the rats and retrieve what appear to be the freshest bones.  There are presumably at least three dead villagers in that pit and Moira would want to give their remains back to the townsfolk for a proper burial.

@DM
Would hoisting Hark into the pit to let the rats begin to eat the corpse, dousing them all with an oil flask, and setting the lot of them alight do the trick?
GM
GM, 239 posts
Sat 2 Mar 2019
at 12:58
  • msg #363

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It would likely damage the bones a bit, since they're kind of scattered around the pit.

Since we are sort of wrapping up here, no need for any rolls.
Moira Ruadh
player, 130 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 2 Mar 2019
at 21:30
  • msg #364

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm sorely tempted to argue on that point since the burning temperature of oil is nowhere near hot enough to damage bones.  But it seems reasonable that it would make it harder to figure out which bones are the newest since they'd all be oil-scorched at that point, at least.

If we're not going to be rolling any further, could it just be shooting fish in a barrel then?  There's enough of us that everyone could pretty much just shoot/Firebolt all the rats to death before they could really clamber out of the pit to fight or flee.
GM
GM, 240 posts
Sat 2 Mar 2019
at 23:50
  • msg #365

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Feel free to bring up your points in the OOC on this - sometimes I go with my gut response, but I can be convinced with a good argument (reserving the right to veto, yada yada...). Did a quick Google and it seems that yeah, you can't really burn bones. So an oil fire will just scorch the bones a bit with scraps of burnt rat. Nothing a good scrubbing can't fix.

Fish in the barrel shooting approach would warrant actual initiative rolls, since there's quite a number of rats, and it has the potential to strip party resources. I rather reward your initial plan to "AOE" them than play this out, partly because I believe Claire really wants to check on her dad :P
Moira Ruadh
player, 131 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 3 Mar 2019
at 03:56
  • msg #366

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Another Molotov cocktail it is, then!
Moira Ruadh
player, 133 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 4 Mar 2019
at 15:13
  • msg #367

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Anyone want to go take a look at Hark's treasure room?  We did find a key, after all.  Though given Claire's low HP and NPC tagalong, it might be safer if she take the NPC back to the group at the front of the cave in case we run into another Ooze.
Thente
player, 138 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 4 Mar 2019
at 16:42
  • msg #368

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente wants to look at the treasure room.

He figures Nightstone needs all it can get in its rebuilding phase. Plus these goblins took the townsfolk and ate them, so in his mind the families of those who were killed/eaten deserve a weregeld from the goblin treasure at the least.

I'll post IC as well
GM
GM, 242 posts
Mon 4 Mar 2019
at 18:12
  • msg #369

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sounds good. I'll give a bit more time (12 hours) to let the others respond then move to the treasure room a little.

Now would also be a good time to discuss how you guys intend to split the treasure, since it seems some of the party wants to pour funds into the rebuilding effort.

Incidentally, what are you guys doing with Veradda's body?
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:12, Mon 04 Mar 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 134 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 4 Mar 2019
at 18:37
  • msg #370

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Since we still have a Dad to save, I would assume the party would all be working toward that end.  We could escort the surviving villagers as far as the fork in the paths, at which point we would part ways.  The party would continue on with the rescue mission while the NPCs take the wagon-we-left-behind, any non-essential treasure, and the various remains/corpses back to Nightstone at their own pace.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 91 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 4 Mar 2019
at 20:35
  • msg #371

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Aye, that sounds good. And a short rest for HP/spell recovery either at the cave or after setting villagers on their way?
Moira Ruadh
player, 135 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 4 Mar 2019
at 22:01
  • msg #372

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@DM
Just to verify - was the ring Moira found in the pit the same gleam of metal that Ceryna saw earlier?
GM
GM, 243 posts
Tue 5 Mar 2019
at 01:10
  • msg #373

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yup! I was going to pop in here to verify that.

So if I'm getting it right, the plan is

-investigate treasure cave (cautiously)
-let Claire rest outside in the meanwhile

Then
-escort villagers down to intersection
-find Dad AKA Guard Captain
-villagers will head back to Nightstone on their own in the meanwhile

Also
-distribution of treasure will be done later?
-do the villagers leave the body of Ms Stoor? It's starting to smell a little
Thente
player, 140 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 5 Mar 2019
at 01:18
  • msg #374

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I think for my part I was planning to have the IC conversation about treasure after we search the treasure cave.

I would have the villagers take Veradda's body on the cart once we reach the intersection. Ceryna wants to honor Veradda's last request and Thente is inclined to go along with that plan.

How many guardsmen are with the villagers right now? What is the threat level to them heading back on their own on a "normal" day? I mean once they get to the intersection, they're less than a mile from Nightstone right? Only about an hour away?
This message was last edited by the player at 01:27, Tue 05 Mar 2019.
GM
GM, 245 posts
Wed 6 Mar 2019
at 01:12
  • msg #375

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira, I'm gonna say looking for traps is an investigation check - I'll use the same roll for it (no reason to waste a nature 20 :P)

Also I'm amused and a bit pleased that Thente is seperating player paranoia from his character behavior
Thente
player, 142 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 6 Mar 2019
at 01:19
  • msg #376

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 375):

Glad I could amuse! :)

I try to separate those as much as possible usually. Thente doesn't know anything about dungeons or magical traps or anything. If Moira acts as though it's safe, he'll probably assume it is, until he learns the hard way! ;)

Also sorry again that I didn't post yesterday, that's my bad!
Moira Ruadh
player, 138 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 6 Mar 2019
at 05:02
  • msg #377

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 375):

Moira isn't looking for traps; she's only giving the room a once-over because Thente asked her to, in reference to more hidden goodies that might be somehow concealed.  She has no reason to think the room would be trapped since it's a Goblin's raw stone cave, has already been described as being empty except for the statue, and it had an Ooze lurking about snatching up anything exposed and loose.

Though on the reference of trap finding - I believe spotting a trap's trigger or damage-dealing source (spotting a pressure plate on the floor, a dart-shooting hole in the wall, etc.) is Perception?  But figuring out specifically where the rest of the trap is/how it functions (if I step on this plate, darts will shoot out here and kill me, etc.) is Investigation?  That's how I've always done it, at least.

So if there is a trap to be found, Moira may be able to realize she's found one and could perhaps safely trigger it as a result, or could follow up with a necessary Investigation and Dexterity-related check to puzzle it out properly.  Or that good ol' Halfling luck might just handle it for her.  ^^;
This message was last edited by the player at 05:04, Wed 06 Mar 2019.
GM
GM, 246 posts
Wed 6 Mar 2019
at 07:17
  • msg #378

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That's reasonable - I've always liked the "perception is observation, investigation is deduction" way of distinguishing them. So let's go with that.

So Moira is just sweeping the room with her eyes for anything out of place?

Who else is looking around the room with Thente? I believe Claire is outside resting.
Moira Ruadh
player, 139 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 6 Mar 2019
at 07:35
  • msg #379

Re: OOC Chat - 001

More or less.  She can take a wander around the room if that helps, but she's not interested in doing a deep dive since her priorities are elsewhere at the moment.

Doderic hasn't been placed, as far as I'm aware, so he could still be with Ceryna.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 78 posts
AC17/PP15/HP15/15/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Wed 6 Mar 2019
at 16:05
  • msg #380

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 379):

I had assumed that Ceryna moved to the rest of the party once Claire left the group, but I'll admit that I didn't explicitly say that.  Anyway, my recent post was based on that assumption.  No biggee if I need to change it.
GM
GM, 248 posts
Wed 6 Mar 2019
at 16:06
  • msg #381

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry Ceryna for some reason I thought you were with Claire. Go ahead and make the check.
Ceryna Vantellon
player, 79 posts
AC17/PP15/HP15/15/Init+2
S-1/D+2/C+1/I+2/W+5/CH+2
Wed 6 Mar 2019
at 20:37
  • msg #382

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thanks GM.  I've updated my post to include my roll.  It didn't help things...

14:32, Today: Ceryna Vantellon rolled 5 using 1d20+4.  Arcana Check.
Moira Ruadh
player, 140 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 6 Mar 2019
at 21:01
  • msg #383

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Can I make an Arcana check too, just for the hell of it?  :3  Or is it only for those with Proficiency?
This message was last edited by the player at 21:01, Wed 06 Mar 2019.
GM
GM, 249 posts
Thu 7 Mar 2019
at 00:34
  • msg #384

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Only proficient! Sorry!

*Cackles madly at Thente's result*
Thente
player, 145 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 7 Mar 2019
at 00:57
  • msg #385

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Interesting.

I've never noticed this behavior before, but I've probably never paid attention. Every time I refresh the IC thread the letters in the Language Unknown section change... its probably just so prominent because there are so few of them in this message.
GM
GM, 251 posts
Thu 7 Mar 2019
at 02:14
  • msg #386

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Huh cool. Didn't know that either.

You don't take any actual damage Thente
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 94 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 7 Mar 2019
at 09:30
  • msg #387

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yea, the language scramble changes each time. Makes it impossible to "learn" a language as a player.
One other function is using curly bracers within the language section {}, and that word(s) will show as normal - useful for names etc.
Moira Ruadh
player, 142 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 7 Mar 2019
at 15:16
  • msg #388

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yeah, the unknown languages text function is randomized gibberish rather than a predetermined cipher.
Thente
player, 147 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 8 Mar 2019
at 15:01
  • msg #389

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So, I think the consensus is we go outside and finish Claire’s short rest and then head out.

I’m good with just to move forward at this point…
GM
GM, 253 posts
Fri 8 Mar 2019
at 15:12
  • msg #390

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Alright! I'm currently on my last flight out of US, so updates will be delayed. Next post will skip a little to the forest intersection.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:18, Fri 08 Mar 2019.
Thente
player, 148 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 8 Mar 2019
at 15:16
  • msg #391

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 390):

Safe flight! Hope you enjoyed your time in the US!
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 97 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sun 10 Mar 2019
at 20:17
  • msg #392

Re: OOC Chat - 001

While Claire finishes her rest, can Doderic look over the stuff they reclaimed from Veradda Stoor?
Don't have a pearl for Identify, but can try to deduce what remaining items are. And peek in the spellbooks...
GM
GM, 255 posts
Mon 11 Mar 2019
at 02:35
  • msg #393

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sure, we can do some of the checks and such via PM. What are you looking to do specifically? Just opening the spellbook?

I'll point out that part of the loot on Veradda conveniently includes a "Pearl worth 100gp". Wonder what that's good for :P
Moira Ruadh
player, 145 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 03:02
  • msg #394

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@DM
Are there any arrows left in the Goblin corpses and, if so, are they well-made or primitive-looking?
GM
GM, 257 posts
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 03:12
  • msg #395

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well made! Is Moira specifically looking at the arrangement of the corpses?
Moira Ruadh
player, 146 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 03:19
  • msg #396

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sure, why not?  Have they been arranged to spell out a pithy message or something?  :3
GM
GM, 258 posts
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 05:55
  • msg #397

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry was at lunch.

The corpses with the arrows in them have been shot from the back. The ones that died from the sword wounds got them from the front. Any more detail would require a medicine check and time spent examining the corpses :P
Moira Ruadh
player, 147 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 06:05
  • msg #398

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Is the man slumped at the tree peppered with arrows or visibly dead?  Or is there no clear way to tell if he's alive or not at distance?
GM
GM, 259 posts
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 06:12
  • msg #399

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Its a bit hard to tell at the distance. Its also difficult to see the state of his wounds or what weapons, mostly because he is shaded by the tree.
Moira Ruadh
player, 150 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 13 Mar 2019
at 14:14
  • msg #400

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Been a few days since we've heard from Ceryna.  Everything alright on their end?
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 100 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 13 Mar 2019
at 14:20
  • msg #401

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Use the absence thread!
Ceryna Vantellon:
I will be on a short trip with my family starting March 12th and ending the 17th.

Moira Ruadh
player, 151 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 13 Mar 2019
at 14:23
  • msg #402

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Gah, I always forget those are a thing.  >_<
Thente
player, 153 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 13 Mar 2019
at 17:00
  • msg #403

Re: OOC Chat - 001

hehe, me too.

@GM - did I get my bedroll/makeshift body sled back from that woman or did they need it to get her back to town?
GM
GM, 264 posts
Thu 14 Mar 2019
at 00:30
  • msg #404

Re: OOC Chat - 001

They will need it for now.

Will update later tonight. In the meanwhile, i think Doderic is asking Moira a question?
Moira Ruadh
player, 152 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 14 Mar 2019
at 03:03
  • msg #405

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I was just waiting for Ceryna to have a chance to post before I replied, but I can do so now if you'd prefer to keep things moving.
GM
GM, 265 posts
Thu 14 Mar 2019
at 03:14
  • msg #406

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Since she's indicated her absence I'll say go ahead for now. I rather keep things moving along as much as possible. Appreciate the consideration though :)
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 101 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 14 Mar 2019
at 05:20
  • msg #407

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I think that "Woof Elf" is one of the best typos I ever saw :D

Is it a lycanthrope or a mad scientist's experiment? ;)
Moira Ruadh
player, 155 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 14 Mar 2019
at 05:55
  • msg #408

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Doderic Cookingpot (msg # 407):

Either way, he's a good boy.  :3
GM
GM, 267 posts
Thu 14 Mar 2019
at 06:53
  • msg #409

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic Cookingpot:
I think that "Woof Elf" is one of the best typos I ever saw :D

Is it a lycanthrope or a mad scientist's experiment? ;)


Urgh...I can't believe I missed that. Fixed. NO ONE SAW ANYTHING
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 102 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Fri 15 Mar 2019
at 10:29
  • msg #410

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Not sure if I'll be able to post IC today. Don't wait for me, Doderic is in the background, listening to the exchange.
GM
GM, 269 posts
Fri 15 Mar 2019
at 12:29
  • msg #411

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Alright, I'll wait a bit more to see if anyone else wants to chime in and update in about 3 hours.
Moira Ruadh
player, 156 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 15 Mar 2019
at 15:16
  • msg #412

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm just going to hang back and let things go as they are, since Moira has nothing to immediately contribute to the conversation.  This is more a scene for Thente and Claire.
Moira Ruadh
player, 157 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 16 Mar 2019
at 07:08
  • msg #413

Re: OOC Chat - 001

To Thente's request to prepare the body for transport - does anyone have a Bedroll or something similar they could use?  Moira doesn't have one since she was only supplied expecting to travel from one bit of civilization to another via wagon.  That, and it'd only be a Halfling-sized bedroll even if she did have one...
Thente
player, 156 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sat 16 Mar 2019
at 13:46
  • msg #414

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hah, good point. I didn’t think About the size!

I’d have given you mine but it’s still being used for the purpose with the villagers.

Anyone with an explorer pack should have one.

But just like this is the first group I’ve been in where no one has native darkvision, it’s probably the first group where everyone chose the starting equipment pack best for their PC IC at the start rather than what they’ll need moving forward ;)
GM
GM, 271 posts
Sat 16 Mar 2019
at 14:16
  • msg #415

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I would add that Veradda's Handy Haversack has a bedroll :>

Incidentally, is Moira searching the body of Claire's dad as she transports it?
Moira Ruadh
player, 158 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 18 Mar 2019
at 15:20
  • msg #416

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Whee, busy weekends suck.  >_<

@DM
Moira wouldn't, like, loot the guy or anything crass like that.  At most she'd gather any of his belongings that got scattered or would be loose while he was carried, bundle them up, and give them to Claire.

Regarding the current state of Nightstone, as I'm not quite clear.  Have all the villagers split into two different groups, or are there two clearly developing factions settling around their bonfires while the bulk of the villagers are just sort of spread about between them?  Is one group bigger than the other?  I'm trying to figure out how divided or tense things seem right now.
GM
GM, 273 posts
Mon 18 Mar 2019
at 15:34
  • msg #417

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hmm its more the latter - developing factions, bulk of the villagers spread around and moving. Neither is particularly large, but neither has the movement really settled in yet.

EDIT: @Doderic

Interesting! Could I get a bit more of an explanation of what you're trying to achieve? Resummon Stoor's familiar through the ritual? Or trying to see if it can be done? (Also if its the former how are you doing it? Go ahead and arcane mumbo jumbo me I love stuff like that).
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:37, Mon 18 Mar 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 105 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 18 Mar 2019
at 16:18
  • msg #418

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Seeing if it can be done and then doing it.

Looking for any notes in her spellbook on the ritual page (substituted components, names, etc) - thus comprehend languages if she used something exotic (charcoal, incense, herbs are very vague, so specifics could help determine the type and source).

Also using Detect Magic to investigate her body, looking specifically for any latent connection to the familiar, presence of its planar pocket or residue of its presence if it used to be at the same place on her for long periods.
Moira Ruadh
player, 159 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 18 Mar 2019
at 16:29
  • msg #419

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It could theoretically be done.  "Find Familiar" specifically binds a Fey spirit into a physical form connected to the caster rather than it just being some nebulous magical creation, but there's no RAW information about what happens if the caster dies.  Even if the supernatural connection between the two is ultimately broken by Stoor's death, there is still a unique Fey creature who is/was her Familiar that existed prior to the spell and will continue to exist after the fact since they're totally immortal.  By using Stoor's spellbook notes - which would specify her individual casting of the spell tied to her individual Familiar rather than just any presently untethered Fey spirit - one could presumably recall the Familiar and perhaps even establish a new bond.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:31, Mon 18 Mar 2019.
GM
GM, 275 posts
Tue 19 Mar 2019
at 06:40
  • msg #420

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I just want to say that I completely forgot Doderic had a Staff of Flowers and am currently laughing my head off.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 106 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 19 Mar 2019
at 06:49
  • msg #421

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Glad to be of service.
Just wait for my spectacularly bad roll ;)
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 107 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 19 Mar 2019
at 06:59
  • msg #422

Re: OOC Chat - 001

P.S. Can Ceryna aid Doderic in casting the spell? (advatnage! and also she'll probably love seeing such take on it)
GM
GM, 276 posts
Tue 19 Mar 2019
at 07:59
  • msg #423

Re: OOC Chat - 001

She can, and based on previous interactions I think the player will be okay with this. Its been about a day since her trip was supposed to end though, so I'm hoping she checks in soon.

For now, assume you have advantage.
GM
GM, 278 posts
Tue 19 Mar 2019
at 14:04
  • msg #424

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Claire, are you emptying your dad's pockets of personal effects? I doubt anyone else in the party would :<

Also just wanted to say, this start became a lot darker than I expected, especially since two of the PCs are so heavily invested in Nightstone. I hope no one minds it too much.
Moira Ruadh
player, 160 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 19 Mar 2019
at 14:13
  • msg #425

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 420):

Y'know, I was going to ask if Moira's Handy Spice Pouch could produce petals from the necessary flower (all plants and many minerals are seasonings, technically), but the current outcome is so much better.  ^_^

As for the somber tone of the story presently - I rather like it.  I'm not really one for grim tales, but it's a far cry better than us just being a bunch of random do-gooders helping out for no real reason.  Having so many characters directly invested into the fate of the town and the tragedy that's hit its people gives a much stronger drive for us to follow through and track down the Giants responsible.

In another SKT game I've played, we ran into that as a narrative issue.  The party didn't have a very strong link to the plot (we'd just been hired on as additional muscle for the town's protection, effectively).  So when the Giants element in the story showed up, the party was pretty much forced to shrug and go "Well, that's way beyond our pay grade" and walk away from it because we literally had no good reason or even any real ability to get involved.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:17, Tue 19 Mar 2019.
Thente
player, 158 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 19 Mar 2019
at 15:14
  • msg #426

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I don't mind it, I'm enjoying the RP personally, and I think it's a natural outflow of having two of us from Nightstone and even Moira having family there. So that's great to me, that we're embracing those ties for our characters.

I sometimes struggle with exactly what Moira mentioned of her earlier game. If I'm not a righteous help people for the sake of my god character or because they deserve it, or have some specific enmity against the bad guys who did XYZ to ABC village, I often ask myself, "why is my character actually doing this?"

So in my Dragon Heist game that I'm playing, I made my guy a city watchman (Investigator) who got himself hooked with some adventurers going after the plot. But he's invested because he cares about the City, and he has orders to keep going.

Thente and Claire and Moira's connects to Nightstone are great to me.

If others don't like it, I also don't mind lightening it up. Though I think once we get past this portion it will likely do so naturally.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 109 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 19 Mar 2019
at 15:48
  • msg #427

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It's grim, but not too dark as far as I'm concerned. Definitely a good tie-in for the characters.

On that note, I see no trouble with Doderic following the plot.
Thente
player, 160 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 19 Mar 2019
at 17:37
  • msg #428

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hopefully Ceryna will be able to join back with us soon since her vacation should be over.
Claire Larkspur
player, 87 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 20 Mar 2019
at 00:09
  • msg #429

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@DM: Yes, she'll be taking her dad's stuff. Just as a player, I'd also be quite keen on that greatsword too :P
GM
GM, 281 posts
Thu 21 Mar 2019
at 13:59
  • msg #430

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ceryna has not logged in for 2 weeks and has yet to respond to PMs. If this continues for another week, I will consider dropping her. What do the rest of you think?

@Claire I'll PM you about the items in her dad's pockets.
Moira Ruadh
player, 162 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 21 Mar 2019
at 14:23
  • msg #431

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Losing her as a player sucks, but at least we're in a good narrative spot for it to happen since she would logically remain in Nightstone to give her help.  We'd be able to pick up a replacement easily from here as well.
Thente
player, 161 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 21 Mar 2019
at 15:30
  • msg #432

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Moira @GM - agreed on both. I thought about making a comment last night my time to that we're in a good spot to replace Ceryna if we need to, but since I'd just posted hoping she returned, didn't want to spam the OOC thread.

It's a bit discouraging because honestly this is one of the best group of IC posters I've been part of on RPOL. Let's keep it up!

If GM you want to recruit a new player - do we all in general want to get another Cleric? Some other healer type? Something completely different?

I liked the mix we have/had and I wouldn't mind some healing oomph since we're probably fighting a lot of literal giants in this game!
Moira Ruadh
player, 164 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 21 Mar 2019
at 15:55
  • msg #433

Re: OOC Chat - 001

A paladin is always welcome, though we don't want to automatically plant a new player into the "healer" role if they might want to play something different.
Thente
player, 163 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 21 Mar 2019
at 16:23
  • msg #434

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 433):

Claire's a paladin already. For me, I don't prefer being one of two of the same class in a game as it usually ends up feeling like toe stepping/overlap. And two paladins with differing Oaths might get... sticky IC.

Right now we have:
Claire - Paladin (frontline melee)
Thente - Sorcerer (basically frontline melee)
Moira - Rogue (going for swashbuckler; I imagine that means more melee than not)
Doderic - Wizard (not going for melee!)

My preference would be for some more ranged support and/or someone who can heal. Whether that's an archer ranger with some Cure Wounds magic or a cleric with ranged spell support or a non-moon druid. I'm not 100% against anything though. I just don't want people to feel toe stepped.

Also, I know 5e doesn't require a healer, but healing makes me feel better at night and in battle!
Moira Ruadh
player, 165 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 21 Mar 2019
at 16:35
  • msg #435

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Thente (msg # 434):

Sorcerer.  Frontline melee.  With no armor proficiency and a d6 HD?  You're a bold one, ain'cha?  :3

Moira is set to be a swashbuckler, but that is in no way a frontliner fighter.  The whole function is to bounce in, deal a huge amount of spike damage, and bounce out while other more hardy party members hold the line.  She simply doesn't have the AC or HP necessary to go toe-to-toe with bigger threats.

I honestly don't think we need to worry about doubling up since 5e allows for classes to play very differently based on what route they progress along.  A entire party could consist of nothing but Paladins or Clerics and they'd all be drastically different from one another.
Thente
player, 164 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 21 Mar 2019
at 17:25
  • msg #436

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
In reply to Thente (msg # 434):
Sorcerer.  Frontline melee.  With no armor proficiency and a d6 HD?  You're a bold one, ain'cha?  :3

Moira is set to be a swashbuckler, but that is in no way a frontliner fighter.


Well...Frontline with Mage Armor & Shield a 14 Con + 1 hp/level from my Origin (effectively d8 HD). It'd probably be better with a rolled set of stats than the standard point buy, but we're gonna try it!

I was faced with a play style choice when building Thente since I'm using the Giant Soul Origin. At 14th level their ability is to grow to large size with combat bonuses and that stacks with Enlarge person (so huge with both). That is all about putting the sorcerer into melee. And not that we're for sure going to reach those levels in this game, but I would feel weird if we do get there and suddenly I'm throwing Thente into melee when I hadn't for the 12 previous levels. So I set him up to be frontline from the start. We'll see how that works out (or not). Right now the only ranged combat spell I have is sleep. When we level up, I'll be swapping that out for Witchbolt (and twin metamagic!), but even that is only 30'. If you want ranged magic, Doderic and someone else is going to have to fill that void. Yes, no ranged cantrips either.

Also I didn't say Moira was "frontline" just "more melee" than not. Even if you're bouncing in/out/around melee, you're still in melee ;)

You're right that different subclasses are very different in play (see Thente vs. most other sorcerers!). I guess with 2 paladins the potential clash in Oaths makes me pre-cringe at the IC/RP potential friction, but at least it would be good RP!
GM
GM, 282 posts
Fri 22 Mar 2019
at 01:44
  • msg #437

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I've played in parties with two Paladins before, but the group wasn't RP heavy so the "clashes between Oaths" did not really come up.

Rather than aggressively recruit, I will see if Ceryna responds before the group leaves town or another week is up (whichever is earlier), after which I'll start checking in with people on the waitlist :P

Speaking of which, I plan to have everyone level up upon leaving town, so start planning your next level :)
Thente
player, 165 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 22 Mar 2019
at 02:25
  • msg #438

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 437):

Is it bad that I've been planning that since we started?

Ahh! Waitlist, that's a great deal better than going back to the player's wanted thread!
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 111 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Fri 22 Mar 2019
at 07:14
  • msg #439

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Just chiming in that I'd be sad to lose Ceryna as well. I loved the idea of magic discussions we might have had.
I don't mind duplicate anything if the players themselves don't feel like their character won't stand out due to it.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 113 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Fri 22 Mar 2019
at 13:39
  • msg #440

Re: OOC Chat - 001

On the topic of leveling up, THente do you have any plans for 2nd level spells?
I'm looking at Scorching Ray and Invisibility or Darkvision (why doesn't it have a higher level option?)

I'll also note that I'm disappointed by the lack of Abjuration spells...
Thente
player, 168 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 22 Mar 2019
at 14:52
  • msg #441

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Doderic Cookingpot (msg # 440):

Is there no resist energy at 2nd level anymore? Ahh, just realized the rolled that spell into Protection from Energy at 3rd level. Bummer.

I'm planning on adding Enlarge/Reduce to my spells known next level and swapping sleep for witch bolt. Again... to flow with that melee/giant type theme.

It's kind of a bummer, by far Hill Giant has the best Origin spells for the sublcass (Shillelagh & Enlarge/Reduce), but who would ever want to be descended from Hill Giants (*said with yuck in voice*)? So I'm taking those spells through other means (Magic Initiate & learned spells).
Moira Ruadh
player, 168 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +3
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 22 Mar 2019
at 15:06
  • msg #442

Re: OOC Chat - 001

There's a 1st level spell called "Absorb Elements", which gives you Resistance to elemental damage types when you're being hit by them, and a 3rd level spell called "Protection from Elements" which does the same thing but at a greater duration/can be cast on others.  I think that's as close as it gets.  There's "Protection from Poison" at 2nd level, for whatever good that's supposed to be.

-Edit-

All leveled up now.  That CHA mod bonus to my Initiative is nice.  :3c

@DM
Will there be any opportunity to upgrade our gear sooner than later?  Running around with a 14 AC makes me nervous.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:28, Fri 22 Mar 2019.
GM
GM, 287 posts
Sat 23 Mar 2019
at 05:59
  • msg #443

Re: OOC Chat - 001

On gear, definitely. Quite soon actually.

Note that you aren't leveled -yet- for checks and powers in the most recent stuff that's happening.
Moira Ruadh
player, 169 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 23 Mar 2019
at 06:35
  • msg #444

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Granted, but it's not like I really get any significant powers or anything that couldn't be ignored simply by not using them until the time is right.  Narratively speaking, Moira's Swashbuckler skills are things she "already had" but just didn't need to use in the previous fights.  The only numerical values that increased were my HP, Initiative, and Sneak Attack damage, which I don't think we're going to be using any time soon?
GM
GM, 290 posts
Sun 24 Mar 2019
at 05:43
  • msg #445

Re: OOC Chat - 001

To handle Thente being away, the party may assume he shares his discussion with Morak with them (unless Thente himself objects). I will focus on other events (likely the burial and Moira's discussion with Kella) and assume Thente is busying himself with other things in the meanwhile.

EDIT: I made a horrible mistake. There -is- no Lord Nandar, only the Lady, who is confirmed dead (the Lord had died years earlier). I had thought there was a son, but it seems that was incorrect. So the village is indeed without any leadership at the moment. Thente, feel free to edit your post.
Thente
player, 172 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sun 24 Mar 2019
at 06:03
  • msg #446

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 445):

Edited. I gotta get to sleep now. Running in 9 hrs!,

I’ll be back online Reliably Monday my time.
GM
GM, 291 posts
Sun 24 Mar 2019
at 15:30
  • msg #447

Re: OOC Chat - 001

For the current post, I'll need to know what everyone's PCs are doing first thing in the morning, even if its just moving over to help Hiral and see to the morning. Will update once everyone has indicated (assuming Ceryna is almost gone by now :<)
Thente
player, 173 posts
HP: 11/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 25 Mar 2019
at 19:00
  • msg #448

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Once we get through the night, Thente would join the morning service with Hiral for the burial of all those dead in Nightstone...also so that Hiral could look at his cursed forehead.
Claire Larkspur
player, 91 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 25 Mar 2019
at 23:44
  • msg #449

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Claire will be attending the service as well, and burying her parents. :(
GM
GM, 292 posts
Tue 26 Mar 2019
at 08:02
  • msg #450

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Dropped another PM to Ceryna. Fingers crossed :<

Update today may be delayed due to RL stuff. I'll see if I can squeeze it in early instead.

EDIT: Nope. Too tired. Sorry guys, will try not to do this too often. Expect an update on Weds instead to compensate.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:57, Tue 26 Mar 2019.
Claire Larkspur
player, 92 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 00:20
  • msg #451

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Just to keep things neat, I'll hold off on IC posting until DM update :)

Should we consolidate the loot list OOCly and figure out what we're keeping and not?
Thente
player, 176 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 00:32
  • msg #452

Re: OOC Chat - 001

If anyone has anything to chime in, on loot division, etc. please do so.

I have a feeling that one or more of the things that we found from/in the caves is magical, but Thente can't tell (nice scimitar I'm looking at you).

I'd PM'd our GM since Ceryna is MIA, Moira and Doderic basically waved it off, it didn't seem like anyone wanted to make any decisions on it, so I was just doing it. My plan was this:

What I'm planning to give to Morak:
  1. His climbing kit back
  2. All the equipment from Hark and/or goblin/ogres that ISN'T magical
  3. Combined wealth from both Hark & Veradda, Total Value: 241.67 gp
    • x100 Gold Pieces
    • x156 Silver Pieces
    • x107 Copper Pieces
    • x5 Small red garnets worth 25gp each

What I'm planning to keep with the party:
  1. Anything magical from Hark/goblins/ogres
  2. All of Veradda's equipment whether magical or not, some distributed to party as noted below
  3. Wealth, Total Value 108.2-158.2 depending on line 1:
    • x12 Assorted Semi-precious stones worth 50gp total, potentially 100gp
    • x1 Beryl stone worth 10gp
    • x1 Silver ring worth 5gp
    • x1 Gold tooth worth 2gp
    • x1 Polished stone bracelet worth 1gp
    • x2 Heavy copper rings worth 1sp each
    • x40 Gold Pieces

  • Claire should have a potion of Heroism, and 2 potions of healing from Veradda
  • Moira has the ring with the inscription on it, unless she gave it back to her family. Thente was going to give her one of Veradda's Potions of Healing as well
  • Doderic has the ritual spellbook, the component pouch, and the Pearl for identify
  • Thente is basically packing everything else up and carrying it in the Haversack since no one chimed in. He is also keeping 2 Potions of Healing and the Potion of Climbing for himself

He's not claiming any of it personally, but since no one else has expressed an interest, he's holding all of Veradda's stuff in the Haversack. He basically set aside 27 gp for each of us, since he knows the road is long and we'll have expenses. The rest is going to the town.

If someone wants something specific from the loot list, just let us know OOC or otherwise!
Thente
player, 177 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 03:01
  • msg #453

Re: OOC Chat - 001

To be clear, Thente is just making these decisions because everyone IC seem to have waved off the decisions on the stuff. I’m not trying to bypass anyone either IC or OOC, If I’m wrong in my understanding of what people want, please let me know.

He is planning on giving what he’s giving to Morak because he knows Morak and there is no nobles left alive in the town right now.

I think the DM is waiting to see if there are any other comments from people on the loot/equipment/etc before he posts.
GM
GM, 293 posts
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 04:03
  • msg #454

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thanks for clarifying Thente.

The DM is also being a bit of a lazy shit right now. An update would go up regardless by tonight >_<
Claire Larkspur
player, 93 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 04:17
  • msg #455

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hmm, if everyone's okay with it, perhaps I'd like to take the following from the pile:
- 1 Keoghtom's Ointment
- 1 Healer's kit (to recharge my own to total 13 charges)
- 1 Chime of Opening
- 1 map case

I suggest someone else take:
- 1 remaining Keoghtom's Ointment
- 1 remaining Chime of Opening
- 2 remaining map cases (as the party woodsman, I assume Thente may want one)
- 3 potions of healing
- 1 dungeoneering kit sans rations

Regarding the gold, I wonder if we should keep Veradda's money (even though ICly Claire would be happy giving all of it to the village) simply because there's a lot of it. :P Or perhaps at least some fraction of it (a nice round sum like 100gp? Leaving a respectable 125gp, 156sp and 107cp for Morak and the village). In any case, I don't have a strong opinion where the gold ends up, so I'm happy to go with consensus.
Thente
player, 178 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 04:39
  • msg #456

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Claire Larkspur (msg # 455):

Claire - we can’t separate the Keoghtom’s Ointment (I don’t think), and the Chime of Opening is one thing with 2 charges left remaining. You can have one of the map cases if you want. Do you want one of the maps as well? There are three

1 - Detailed map with cities, etc.
1 - Detailed map but focused on trade routes by land and sea
1 - sketchy map with Cult of the Dragon symbols
Claire Larkspur
player, 94 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 05:47
  • msg #457

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Thente (msg # 456):

Oh sorry! I misunderstood about the items. In that case I'll take the:
- Keoghtom's Ointment
- Healer's kit

Someone else can hang on to the Chime and maps.
Moira Ruadh
player, 171 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 13:55
  • msg #458

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Wealth left with Nightstone
This is actually something we should discuss with the DM/in-character.  Lady Nandar died in the attack, so Nightstone is left without a leader and there's no guarantee that the locals will actually want to stay and rebuild.  They may decide to relocate to another larger city where they could find new homes and safer pastures after all that's happened.  Regardless, it's not as though the town was penniless in the first place - there's bound to be official coffers in Nandar Keep the town can fall back on when it comes to their immediate funding.

I'm all for leaving wealth with the townsfolk as it suits characterization but, on the mechanics side of things, we don't need to give them the lion's share when the funds could be better used to outfit our party for success in upcoming events.

Assorted Items
Moira still has the ring she recovered from the rat pit.  It belongs to a friend of hers and she intends to return it to his widow, who lives in Triboar.  So it really shouldn't be counted among the treasure with that in mind.

Moira would be fine taking 1 Potion of Healing and the three maps.  Someone else can take the chimes though - she has Thieves' Tools if she needs to open a lock.
Claire Larkspur
player, 95 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 14:08
  • msg #459

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Moira

Good point regarding the village - perhaps we should have the characters talk with Morak or someone else in the morning?

Regarding the chime - @Thente or @Doderic? If neither of you feel strongly for it, I don't mind hanging on to that too.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 116 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 14:36
  • msg #460

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic is fine with the spellcasting stuff and nothing more.

As a player, I'm impartial to hoarding wealth and prefer finding/earning useful items as we progress. Yes, that sometimes includes basic usable items, so feel free to ignore my leniency ^^
Thente
player, 179 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 16:16
  • msg #461

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well... I tried to discuss it In-character and no one wanted to have anything to do with that discussion. So... yeah, I made the decisions based on how I thought Thente would. He's not a person of wealth or big needs so he would have put the majority of it to the town.

It's hard for me to say that IC, no one wanted to chime in so the decision was left to Thente, and then OOC say but we did something different/opposite to what Thente would have done IC if left to his own devices.

There is a total of 349.87-399.87 gp worth of gold/gems/jewelry (not counting Moira's ring). There are 12 stones that we don't have a solid value for so this is all ranges.

How much do you all want to leave to the town?

I kept what amounts to 27-39.5 gp for the group, which to Thente probably seems like a lot of money at one time. If we keep it all we're talking 87.47 - 99.96 gp per person. Basically 60 more gp each.

If that is what everyone really wants to do OOC, I'll go with it, but it's slightly frustrating because I gave IC chances for people to chime in with their thoughts on distribution. If that is the group decision, Thente only keeps 10 gp of his share and gives the rest to Morak. The rest of the party can do what they want I guess.

Assorted items
I wasn't counting the ring for treasure, only for magic identification if any. It is magical per the GM, counts as the heat half of an endure elements spell.

Moira is free to take the maps if she wants them. With my Outlander background, I've pretty much memorized them at this point (unless the GM tells me otherwise!)

I'm fine if Claire takes the Chime, Thente has no need of it.
GM
GM, 296 posts
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 16:43
  • msg #462

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yea, no issue there, I think everyone was focused on their own plots IC. Actually, I was expecting you guys to start discussing this sort of thing about now, either in OOC and IC so to speak. So don't worry Thente, you didn't do anything wrong.

For one, I think this sort of IC conflict between Thente and Moira is very interesting to play out. Far as I can tell, at the moment there's three decisions that need to be made before the party leaves town:

1) Where are you guys going?
2) How much are you leaving the town?
3) Who are you leaving the money with?

Keep these questions in mind when doing subsequent IC posts and discussions OOC. Unfortunately, one of the side effects of PbP is this sort of delayed communication problems. That said, I'm sure we'll learn how to smooth it out as we go along.
Thente
player, 181 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 16:57
  • msg #463

Re: OOC Chat - 001

1) I think headed to Yartar, probably by way of Waterdeep for Claire
2) I've stated my peace on that. Others can chime in
3) Right now I'm playing as though I gave any money that was given was to Morak.

Keep in mind that this specific scenario will only play out with encounters/loot gained as part of the Nightstone plot.

Once we're on the road, Thente has zero problem just keeping everything for themselves.

I'm interested in the Moira/Thente conflict as well. She thinks he's an idiot with no sense... he thinks she's an arrogant woman who is condescending in the extreme in thinking she's always the smartest person around. We both think we're doing the right things...fun times.
Moira Ruadh
player, 174 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 17:19
  • msg #464

Re: OOC Chat - 001

1) Yartar seems the goal, via Waterdeep and Triboar since those are the major stops along the trade routes, while both Claire and Moira have business in each.

2) I'd like to get a better idea of what resources the town has to call on first.  It's one thing to discuss it in-character, but for the sake of convenience and planning, it might be easier if you just tell us what sort of finances we're dealing with OOC.

3) I vote leaving funds with Morak.

I like the build-up with Moira and Thente as well.  She's talking shit on him in-character because she's frankly livid at the kid right now for his actions, but it makes for a good conflict point that they can build on down the line.  It's always nice when characters can clash and learn to work together just as much as when they get along swimmingly from the get-go.

Oh, and full disclosure on loot because I forgot until I just looked at my character sheet.  Moira has a few things she pocketed off the Goblin she killed while scouting:

 -1 Shortbow
 -16 Crude Arrows
 -1 Scimitar
 -3 Copper Coins
 -1 Chalk
 -1 Bracelet (worth 1 GP)

There's also presumably any weapons we took from the Goblins on our way out, unless they were all given to the villagers.  I doubt this sort of stuff is even worth mentioning or redistributing, but there it is.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 117 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 18:48
  • msg #465

Re: OOC Chat - 001

1) What folks said
2) A fair share of money/valuables. All weapons and such taken from goblins
3) Morak

I'll make sure to get some popcorn for your next discussion ;)
Moira Ruadh
player, 176 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 27 Mar 2019
at 21:24
  • msg #466

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira getting all hyper-focused on problem solving is a character trait, but I feel awful for ignoring Doderic in-scene.  I'm being a bad Halfling.  T_T
Claire Larkspur
player, 96 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 00:21
  • msg #467

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm sorry if Claire was a bit distant throughout the first chapter too, but I think it'll get better after she gets out of shock and sad following this!

1) Yartar via Waterdeep and Triboar is good! (Seems unanimous?)
2) Same opinion as Doderic - tentatively as I suggested, we can take 100gp and leave everything else, until we have more info about the town finances.
3) Morak (Unanimous too?)

@Doderic: Are you open to sharing some popcorn? ^^
GM
GM, 298 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 00:29
  • msg #468

Re: OOC Chat - 001

OOC, Nightstone is surprisingly rich for a small village, given its proximity to Waterdeep. However most of it's wealth is in the hands of the Nandar family, and tied up in trade/infrastructure. The Nandars are relatively minor nobles in Waterdeep.

Moira and Ceryna would know that rebuilding an inn would cost thousands of gold pieces. A castle hundreds of thousands. Such a large project will also take a lot of time.

In terms of resources, Nightstone has plenty of labor and can call on nearby cities for aid. However, I would add that you aren't sure how badly other places have been hit. Rebuilding may take more than gold - but also clout.
Thente
player, 183 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 00:42
  • msg #469

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Since we're all in agreement on 1) & 3)...

2) My initial split was everything to the town but 108-158 gp (those pesky semi-precious stones). So that lines up with what Claire is thinking, I think.

Sounds like most of the wealth of Nightstone is illiquid right now or unaccessable because it's somewhere in the Nandar keep.

Even if they don't need the money for rebuilding because it's a drop in the bucket, there are immediate needs for temporary shelters, food, and such that the gold could provide for.

it's still a drop, but it helps.
Claire Larkspur
player, 97 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 01:50
  • msg #470

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Given that Claire's dad has some money stashed in Waterdeep, perhaps that may be a good IC pretext for the party to leave to go get it and send it back, not to mention Veradda and Triboar too. ICly that's probably what would occur to Claire too.
Moira Ruadh
player, 177 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 01:58
  • msg #471

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Waterdeep is also where House Nandar is based, with the Lady Nandar simply being one member of the family.  It would be a reasonable cause for the party to travel there to give the bad news and possibly help get aid underway.  Moira in particular is going to the local temple of Waukeen, which is effectively a bank/money trader's hub as well.

Regardless, Waterdeep is the party's best option for gathering supplies necessary to make it up to Yartar.  Given that Moira remains in possession of the donkey and wagon the Lionshield Coster loaned her, and her buddy who ran the branch in Nightstone is dead... well, seems like it's effectively her donkey and wagon now until further notice.  So at least we don't have to worry about marching up the Long Road.
Claire Larkspur
player, 99 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 02:24
  • msg #472

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Waterdeep it is! To summarize, it sounds like we're all agreeable on the following?

1. Waterdeep is our next big stop
2. Leave some but not all the gold (as a guideline, keeping just a round 100gp for the journey?)
3. Give the stuff to Morak
 a. I feel like the ideal solution to the political situation in Nightstone (at least for the short term) would be to give Morak control of the purse strings while allowing Kella to set some direction, at the same time getting the Nandars back to hopefully oversee and arbitrate between the two of them. I'll have Claire poke in and see if we can bring about that outcome if that's okay?
GM
GM, 301 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 05:26
  • msg #473

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Moira Going to pause a bit after this to let Claire and Doderic interject. Thanks for the quick responses!
Thente
player, 185 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 05:33
  • msg #474

Re: OOC Chat - 001

rolled, edited, and posted
Moira Ruadh
player, 180 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 16:23
  • msg #475

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@DM
Morak is at the Inn, right?  So the party will be congregating there as we all regather for our own reasons?
This message was last edited by the player at 16:25, Thu 28 Mar 2019.
Thente
player, 186 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 16:31
  • msg #476

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente and Morak are outside the Inn right now talking. Doderic went inside I believe.
Moira Ruadh
player, 182 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 16:32
  • msg #477

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Right, so congregating it is.  That's certainly easier since it means the whole party can be there for Moira's conversation with Morak.
Claire Larkspur
player, 102 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 16:36
  • msg #478

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Last post for the night, but I assume it's okay to head towards the inn then!
GM
GM, 302 posts
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 00:26
  • msg #479

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yup. You guys might want to just drop in on Morals conversation with Thente.

So Waterdeep for the contract and collecting Claire's inheritance, then Yartar? And the party is keeping say, 20gp each (100 total) plus the iliquid gems. The rest to Moral.

Alright I can plan with this. Will update the loot threads soon ish.

Lastly, it looks like Ceryna is not joining us. I have a waitlisted player in mind, though they aren't a cleric. Does anyone feel strongly that the group needs one?
Thente
player, 187 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 00:33
  • msg #480

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
So Waterdeep for the contract and collecting Claire's inheritance, then Yartar?

Waterdeep, the I think Moira said she had pre-existing business in Tribor, then Yartar, yup.
GM:
And the party is keeping say, 20gp each (100 total) plus the iliquid gems. The rest to Moral.

Alright I can plan with this. Will update the loot threads soon ish.

Just go with what I proposed on the wealth portion. It gives the party 108 gp minimum. Close enough to 100.
GM:
Lastly, it looks like Ceryna is not joining us. I have a waitlisted player in mind, though they aren't a cleric. Does anyone feel strongly that the group needs one?

I don't feel strongly until we die because we're short a cleric! Can you let us know the class /subclass they are proposing to vote on that?
GM
GM, 303 posts
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 00:58
  • msg #481

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I believe they are playing an ancestral barbarian. Fits with the group's country-nature theme, reduces the need for healing by taking the damage himself :P

If there's a lot of worry on this, I'll ask the player, but I generally prefer not to pressure people to switch classes, especially if it's just for healing. If there's worry about combat, i can easily readjust - the group seems to enjoy exploration and alternative resolutions to fighting anyway.
Thente
player, 188 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 01:11
  • msg #482

Re: OOC Chat - 001

 I’m not trying to ask anybody to switch classes or anything. I was just more curious to see what class the application you liked was wanting to do. We don’t need healing per se. And I’d love another target in melee. Ancestral Guardian has some interesting tank mechanics that I haven’t seen in play that could be fun.

My only concern with a barbarian is thematic overlap with my character.  If they have the outlander background too, it’s would seem like a lot of duplication there with Thente.

Plus… I’m not sure Moira could handle two uneducated/rube “bulls in the china shop” type characters. It might drive her insane! ;)
Moira Ruadh
player, 184 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 01:21
  • msg #483

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
Plus… I’m not sure Moira could handle two uneducated/rube “bulls in the china shop” type characters. It might drive her insane! ;)


Aww, don't feel that way, Thente.  Besides, that's not even close to the reason why Moira is mad at your boy.  We'll get to that later on.  :3c

Regarding Healing
Honestly, an easier workaround is just to make sure that we can have reliable access to Potions.  Since basic Potions of Healing aren't even considered true magic items anymore, it's a simple affair to say we can stock up on a perhaps discounted supply of medicine in Waterdeep for emergencies.  Or maybe let us get a hold of a class-modified "Staff of Healing" that one of our casters could use.

It doesn't have to be a lot of healing available to us; just enough that we'd reasonably feel confident that we could bring someone back from the edge of death and then heal up further during a rest.
GM
GM, 304 posts
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 02:08
  • msg #484

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
Regarding Healing
Honestly, an easier workaround is just to make sure that we can have reliable access to Potions.  Since basic Potions of Healing aren't even considered true magic items anymore, it's a simple affair to say we can stock up on a perhaps discounted supply of medicine in Waterdeep for emergencies.  Or maybe let us get a hold of a class-modified "Staff of Healing" that one of our casters could use.


Yeap, pretty much. I wouldn't worry about not having healing spell or restorations, and more about if anyone is worried their concept will step on toes.

Actually, maybe I'll just add him and let you guys sort it out :)
Claire Larkspur
player, 104 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 03:08
  • msg #485

Re: OOC Chat - 001

For what it's worth, dps is a form of damage mitigation!

But also, if we had another character who could reliably frontline and deal damage, I could conceivably throw out healing spells in the case that we really needed magical healing (really the only contender for those spell slots is divine smite, to me at least).
Thente
player, 189 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 03:24
  • msg #486

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@GM - not sure if you noticed or not, but I did roll my persuasion check and added it to my previous post.
GM
GM, 306 posts
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 03:35
  • msg #487

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Woops. Updated, and pushing the scene forward a little.

I'm going to add the tentative replacement now, so he can introduce himself and discuss things with you guys directly :)
Claire Larkspur
player, 106 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 03:38
  • msg #488

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Great!

I've left it such that Moira can initiate the conversation!
GM
GM, 307 posts
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 03:40
  • msg #489

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Please welcome Ulvin guys! He's got some concepts in mind, so I'll leave it to him to pitch and discuss with you guys. Just keep in mind that I'm not one of those DMs that punishes players for not having a "Standard Party", so please don't stress too much about not having a specific pillar :)
Claire Larkspur
player, 107 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 03:45
  • msg #490

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Welcome Ulvin, nice to meet you!
Thente
player, 190 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 03:48
  • msg #491

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hi Ulvin
Ulvin Deep Mountain
player, 1 post
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 04:51
  • msg #492

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Greetings folks!


I've thrown a few concepts at our illustrious and benevolent DM, but he suggested chatting with the crew for your thoughts.

The group seems light on tanks, healers, and ranged.

Option1: Ancestral Guardian Barbarian - draw the heat from the other melee.

Option2: Celestial Warlock - healing elixirs, ranged eldritch blasts, and CLW.

Option3: Firbolg Forge Cleric - mix of healing, stand and take it melee, and flexible creation/movement.

Option4: Glamour Bard - temp HP, healing word, and songs of rest



Looking for your thoughts on which strike the most interest for the crew, or just thoughts and pithy observations :)

A pleasure to be aboard with such a fine group of posters!
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 119 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 05:02
  • msg #493

Re: OOC Chat - 001

1. Welcome Ulvin!
2. I caught some bug and my brain isn't working as intended (nor is anything else), so I might be a bit behind on IC posts. Fortunately, Doderic isn't a driving character ATM.
3. Plan sounds good GM

Ulvin, those are some lovely choices (both 2 and 3 are something that I have on my to-try list). I wouldn't mind seeing any of them. Maybe see with Thente regarding the concept of the barbarian.

Are you OK with playing a race that doesn't have darkvision? ;) (we learned that halflings and humans are limited that way)
Thente
player, 191 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 05:11
  • msg #494

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hi again!

Thanks for sharing your ideas. Are there any that you are wanting/yearning to play more than the others?

We have:
Paladin (Claire)
Melee Sorcerer (me)
Soon to be Swashbuckler (Moira)
Wizard (Doderic)

I'll let others chime in as they want and just give you a window into Thente. Mechanically I'm a Giant Soul Sorcerer with the Outlander background. So he grew up a woodsman in the Ardeep forest just to the north, and is originally from Nightstone.

I'm down for any of those classes ideas, I'm just hoping we don't have too much overlap thematically if you went with the Barbarian.

All those ideas look fun. I'd say Option 3 is probably the last one for me if I had to rank them.

Ahh! Doderic raised a good point - right now we have no darkvision races. It'd been kind of neat to keep that alive :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 185 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 05:44
  • msg #495

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Howdy Ulvin, welcome to the Daylight Crew!  Because we sure as hell can't see at night.  :3

Of the options you listed, I'm fond of 1 and 3.  Our party is primarily melee/utility focused right now, but we're moderately squishy, so having a primary combatant to stand front and center would certainly help.  On the other hand, a Cleric is always useful since it can frontline as well, along with both Firbolg and the Forge path being absolutely fascinating additions.
Claire Larkspur
player, 108 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 06:02
  • msg #496

Re: OOC Chat - 001

All those options sound really fun, and I'd be happy whichever you chose, really!

I do agree with the others that we are a bit squishy at the moment - the ogres sure showed us that was the case, so I can see options 1 or 3 being really good for party synergy. The barbarian would be very welcome for taking some of the heat off me, but a cleric would do fine for us too. So long as you're having fun with what you choose!
GM
GM, 309 posts
Sat 30 Mar 2019
at 05:37
  • msg #497

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I originally wanted to admit Ulvin for option 1, mostly because I really liked the flavour. Option 3 is particularly interesting too due to the connection Firbolgs have to giants :)
Ulvin Deep Mountain
player, 2 posts
Sun 31 Mar 2019
at 06:31
  • msg #498

Re: OOC Chat - 001

And congratulations all on 1000 posts!
GM
GM, 311 posts
Sun 31 Mar 2019
at 07:23
  • msg #499

Re: OOC Chat - 001

(squeals incoherently)

Holy crap 1k posts. That was fast. You guys are ridiculous lol
Moira Ruadh
player, 189 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 31 Mar 2019
at 08:00
  • msg #500

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ey, and here's to a few thousand more!

I don't suppose we could all get a celebratory point of Inspiration?  :3c
GM
GM, 312 posts
Sun 31 Mar 2019
at 08:33
  • msg #501

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Eeeehhhh I'll think about it :P

In the meanwhile, seems like most of you guys are supportive of  Ulvin going the forge cleric route? I'll work something out with him in the PMs and see if we can fit him in soon!

What's the groups thoughts on RPing out the business exchange with Morak? I will definitely be skimming over the specific negotiations, since that would take forever, but I do think there should be room for IC character input before, during and after. How much involvement do folks want here?
Moira Ruadh
player, 190 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 31 Mar 2019
at 08:57
  • msg #502

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Depending on how long we plan to remain in town, we don't necessarily have to hash out all the negotiation details at once.  We could always move on to Waterdeep before the negotiations are finished with Moira assuring Kella she'll get the contract groundwork and red tape started, so that the fine details can be filled in later.  Meanwhile, Morak drags things out as long as he can through that famous Dwarvish stubbornness, giving ample time for House Nandar and contacts at the Lord's Alliance to gather sufficient aid and guards to come to Nightstone's rescue.  Presumably Morak could keep the negotiations going for days if he's dutiful enough with stringing Kella along.  Moira is sort of trusting that Kella won't try and remove Morak for fear of it souring the townsfolk against her in the wake of their tragedy.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 121 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sun 31 Mar 2019
at 09:01
  • msg #503

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yay for posts!
Boo for me still being off.
Absolutely for glossing over details IC.
Claire Larkspur
player, 111 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sun 31 Mar 2019
at 11:39
  • msg #504

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm fine with skimming over the details too.

Forge cleric (or barbarian) is good too! I'm just happy not to be sole ogre appetizer. :P
Thente
player, 194 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sun 31 Mar 2019
at 21:10
  • msg #505

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 502):

Assuming it could be connected to her... those Zhents are sneaky sneaky...
Moira Ruadh
player, 191 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 31 Mar 2019
at 21:23
  • msg #506

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Thente (msg # 505):

Oh, absolutely.  Major personal risk going down here, but that's part and parcel with the situation at the moment.  I mean, if I have to go on a Roaring Rampage of Revenge subplot later on, that's one thing...
Claire Larkspur
player, 112 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 1 Apr 2019
at 14:08
  • msg #507

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It just occurred to me that Ceryna could be ICly staying in Nightstone too? Maybe she could help Morak out a bit.
Moira Ruadh
player, 193 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 1 Apr 2019
at 14:18
  • msg #508

Re: OOC Chat - 001

A solid idea, really.  Her staying behind to help out would be a very good solution rather than just leaving everything on Morak's shoulders.  Narratively, she has both rank and cleric abilities that make her a good choice to be around to help/protect him while the others are gone.
Thente
player, 197 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 1 Apr 2019
at 15:46
  • msg #509

Re: OOC Chat - 001

And she's braver than Hiral. I guess I assumed she was going *poof* like her player, whoops!
Moira Ruadh
player, 195 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 1 Apr 2019
at 15:53
  • msg #510

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It's a good way to keep the character relevant just in case the player does return later, as well as avoiding the narrative breaking issue of someone just vanishing into the aether.  In a "Lost Mine of Phandelver" game I play, we ran into a similar issue where a player poof'd, so their character became a sort of "home base" contact in the town of Phandalin who kept an eye on the place and managed the party's job acquisitions.
Thente
player, 199 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 1 Apr 2019
at 15:54
  • msg #511

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 510):

Yup, great point. I just brought her up IC since yours and Claire's post pointed it out!
GM
GM, 314 posts
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 01:42
  • msg #512

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yup, that was my intention with Ceryna. I didn't think about letting you guys using her as a base contact though - that can certainly be arranged. Rather than DMPC her, I'll put her general actions down to party vote - at the moment, I assume its:

1) Stay at Nightstone, help out the rebuilding
2) Keep an eye on negotiations with Kella, keep the party informed while otw to Waterdeep

If the discussion with the stone gets resolved, I'll move things forward to a summarized meeting with Kella for the 'first round' of negotiations. Then we can have the characters say goodbye :>
Thente
player, 200 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 03:40
  • msg #513

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That all sounds good to me.

How is Ulvin coming? Is he settled on Firbolg Forge Cleric or Ancestral guarding Barb or something else? We didn't scare him off did we?
GM
GM, 315 posts
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 04:40
  • msg #514

Re: OOC Chat - 001

He's dead now guys and playing a ghost

Its fine, we're working on his backstory in the PMs now. I'll let him do the reintroductions when he is ready :)
Ulvin Deep Mountain
player, 3 posts
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 05:05
  • msg #515

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Come to haunt you allll.?

Hmm.

The dread cleric Roberts is here for your soul?

Catchy, but needs workshopping
Moira Ruadh
player, 196 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 05:55
  • msg #516

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Back in 3.5 I tried so hard to convince my group DM to let me play a ghost PC.  There was a whole splatbook for it and everything, but they never let me.  >_>
Ulvin Deep Mountain
player, 4 posts
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 12:07
  • msg #517

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I did once in a higher level campaign.
It was very fun, and rather op?  Scouting through dungeons ethereally, ambushing, and yet great social skills.
The manifesting and powers were fun for sure, and the to was most delightful
GM
GM, 317 posts
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 14:29
  • msg #518

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Something I need to clarify, because I think we may be out of sync on this:

What's Moira's plan with the contract exactly? I'm currently interpreting it as the party going to Waterdeep to personally bring a priest of Waukeen over to witness the signing of the contract, with the two days between being the duration for Morak and Kella to haggle terms. However, Moira's going to use that time to also tip off the temple, and get them to send folks over to interfere with the deal itself as well.

Does this sound about right?
Moira Ruadh
player, 197 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 14:44
  • msg #519

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Basically, I was trying to angle things to make it easier on the overall narrative so we wouldn't have to spend a bunch of time haggling specifics.  After arranging the whole plan, the party bounces off to Waterdeep while all negotiations and developments with Kella in the meantime are handled "off-screen" without our direct input.  Moira can immediately report back to Kella and tell her she's spoken with Morak about being more receptive, and that she plans to get the paperwork started in Waterdeep.  So Kella can expect Moira's support in an official capacity getting all the red tape cleared ahead of time, laying the groundwork for terms to be put in place when Moira and the others return.

Whether or not Moira needs to actually bring a priest of Waukeen back with her, or if just the written contracts and properly signed paperwork is good enough, is more up to you, DM.  I was basically going on the thought that all Waukeenar can handle their own business affairs and regularly report them to the temple (sort of like filing yearly taxes), but something as big/expensive as town renovation involving an established House of Waterdeep's property would naturally require oversight from the temple.

To summarize, the basic thrust of things is:

1) Moira tells Kella she's going off to Waterdeep to start the paperwork process and inform House Nandar of the whole situation.
2) Kella remains in Nightstone to begin negotiating terms with Morak.
3) The Party goes to Waterdeep, does their business, Moira reports in to the temple of Waukeen to snitch on Kella.
4) The Party either returns with aid from the temple and/or the Lord's Alliance, or they do not leave Waterdeep and all matters with Nightstone and the Zhents are resolved in narrative.  Instead, the party moves on toward Triboar and then Yartar.  Whichever is more convenient to the narration and flow of the game.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:44, Tue 02 Apr 2019.
GM
GM, 318 posts
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 15:05
  • msg #520

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ah good, your points sound like what I had planned, I just wanted to be sure before I skipped things forward. Thank you for the succinct write-up.
Thente
player, 202 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 16:37
  • msg #521

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yup, thanks for writing that up Moira!

Also - not sure if it was explicit in any of the morning after stuff, but the words that were scarred on Thente's face by the statue, had disappeared off his face after the burial, but before the rest of the group saw him with Morak.

Just background FYI for everyone!
Ul'in
player, 5 posts
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 21:11
  • msg #522

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Huh.  Imagine that.
I was using the UA forge cleric material to do my character sheet, as I have been away from home for with.
They made changes, add didn't bother to consult me.  Tsk

Removing a dmg bonus v golems... Does that really come up  often enough to have been a concern?  Must be different group play.
I guess.  Struck me as a 'oh hey!  I finally used that ability!' type situation.


But taking away Shield from your tank cleric?   Now that is just plain naughty
Thente
player, 203 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 21:58
  • msg #523

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Ul'in (msg # 522):

Clerics get shield be default:
DNDBeyond Cleric:
Proficiencies
Armor: Light armor, medium armor, shields

Then you also gain heavy armor from the Forge domain
DNDBeyond Forge:
Bonus Proficiencies
When you choose this domain at 1st level, you gain proficiency with heavy armor and smith’s tools.

Moira Ruadh
player, 198 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 22:00
  • msg #524

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ul'in means the spell "Shield".  In UA, the Forge Cleric got it as one of their Domain spells, but it's been replaced with "Identify" in the official content.

RIP my Centaur Forge Cleric from another game.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:00, Tue 02 Apr 2019.
Thente
player, 204 posts
HP: 16/16 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 2 Apr 2019
at 22:09
  • msg #525

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 524):

Ahh haha. That makes sense... *shrugs*, sorry for my confusion, though I see why you'd be sad about that update.

I guess they figured a heavy armored, shield wearing cleric with the ability to already add a +1 to their AC with Blessing of the Forge (and at 6th level gets another +1 to AC in heavy armor) didn't need another +5 to their AC? By 6th you'll probably be around a 22 AC, which is the same as most Ancient Dragons...

Even with starting equipment you'll be at 19 AC: Chainmail AC 16 + 2 Shield + 1 Blessing of the Forge. Not to shabby!
Ul'in
player, 6 posts
Wed 3 Apr 2019
at 03:39
  • msg #526

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Presuming, of course, that one never finds magical armour, as the first bonus doesn't stack.
The level6 is solid, like the fighter2 ability choice.

Now, as a player, I feel the weapon hit/dmg is stronger than the AC pip, especially as the game progresses.  The flip side, of course, is that you receive the magic weapon spell almost immediately at level3, which isn't compatible with the ability, so the window is limited.

But where you have a stingy DM, or a very low magic campaign, it can be very helpful, and longer term!
Moira Ruadh
player, 200 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 3 Apr 2019
at 17:06
  • msg #527

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Thente
Regarding Rations - Moira is inclined to buy more food than less at any given time, so I'm fine.  :3
Thente
player, 206 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 3 Apr 2019
at 17:21
  • msg #528

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ok! just giving you the option of saving some coin! :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 201 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 4 Apr 2019
at 13:49
  • msg #529

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Since Moira has already been narratively established as a wagon driver, she'll take the Driver spot on the team.
GM
GM, 321 posts
Thu 4 Apr 2019
at 13:52
  • msg #530

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yup, I figured as much, but I usually prefer to just spell out things that might have mechanical rolls involved since it minimises player confusion.

Do chime in!
Thente
player, 207 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 4 Apr 2019
at 14:07
  • msg #531

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I figure Thente is at least scout, though any low rolls on that job I'm going to attribute to him not being used to walking/scouting in the flatlands as opposed to the forests ;)
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 125 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 4 Apr 2019
at 14:12
  • msg #532

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic can rearguard, but can do without it.

Also, told you so :p (stone-wise; will share and propose response IC)
Claire Larkspur
player, 115 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 5 Apr 2019
at 00:39
  • msg #533

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Claire can help take turns driving if Moira needs a break. Friendly horses are the best :D
GM
GM, 322 posts
Fri 5 Apr 2019
at 01:56
  • msg #534

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Friendly and very expensive horses.

I would emphasize that Sending has a 25 word limit, so think about how you wanna respond.

Incidentally, I'm treating it as seperate castings of sending - essentially, each stone can cast sending to the other, which let's the other party reply as part of the same spell. So your own stone still has a charge of sending, if that somehow matters.
GM
GM, 323 posts
Sat 6 Apr 2019
at 01:24
  • msg #535

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Doderic, unfortunately I will need a response from you on the stone. If I don't get one your head explodes I will just move the scene forward (maybe in 12 hours or so) and handle the reply "out of time", mostly so we can introduce Ulin soon :)

Also those in scout and rearguard positions can make me perception checks.

EDIT: Oh, and before I forget - those done with your level ups, please ping me in the PM thread (I know some of you already did) so I can check them :)

EDIT2: Bit tired tonight, so I'm going to delay the update on the main thread another 12 hours (Ul'in, feel free to post in your prologue) and see if Doderic actually replies soon.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:50, Sat 06 Apr 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 127 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sun 7 Apr 2019
at 05:23
  • msg #536

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry, had a terrible day and didn't get to the computer at all, otherwise I'd post or let you know I'm unavailable. Remedying it now.
GM
GM, 325 posts
Sun 7 Apr 2019
at 05:38
  • msg #537

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No issues, Doderic just needs to be make a Con save or take 20d10 damage from head exploding been a bit busier this week anyway.

I notice most of you folks don't post much on weekends. Would it be better for me to have a posting schedule of daily on Weekdays and 1/twodays (Sat or Sun) on weekends? Exceptions would be during combat rounds.
Thente
player, 210 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sun 7 Apr 2019
at 22:16
  • msg #538

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That schedule would be best for me. Weekends are hit/miss for me with family obligations on the weekends.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 129 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 8 Apr 2019
at 09:21
  • msg #539

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Workdays are likely better for me as well, except when they're not ^^
As far as I'm concerned, do whatever works for you and we'll match you as best as we can.
Moira Ruadh
player, 204 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 8 Apr 2019
at 13:37
  • msg #540

Re: OOC Chat - 001

My overall schedule is pretty fluid.  I'm generally more active on weekdays, but there are times where my job will roll into crunch time and I get completely overwhelmed until the weekend instead.  So I guess I'll just fall in with whatever the majority decision is.  ^^;
Moira Ruadh
player, 205 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 8 Apr 2019
at 17:00
  • msg #541

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@DM
What sort of check would it be to try and lasso the horse?  Athletics?  Straight Dexterity?  Alternatively, same question for just trying to leap into the saddle and rein in the horse properly?
GM
GM, 332 posts
Mon 8 Apr 2019
at 17:28
  • msg #542

Re: OOC Chat - 001

An attack roll to hit, followed by an animal handling check or athletics to rein it in. Treat it as a whip.

Leaping into the saddle will be your choice of acrobatics or athletics to get on, after which will be a mix of animal handling to calm it and acro/athletics to avoid getting thrown off.
Moira Ruadh
player, 206 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 8 Apr 2019
at 17:35
  • msg #543

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Saddle hopping it is.  Moira isn't Proficient with a Whip, so the higher bonus goes toward the circus rider approach.

Acrobatics to mount
Moira Ruadh rolled 17 using 1d20+5

Animal Handling to calm
Moira Ruadh rolled 2 using 1d20+1 (Nat 1 - Halfling Luck kicks in)
Moira Ruadh rolled 15 using 1d20+1


Well, that's thematic.  :3  Would that be enough to successfully calm the horse, or do I need to roll another Acrobatics check to keep from being bucked?
This message was last edited by the player at 17:36, Mon 08 Apr 2019.
Thente
player, 212 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 8 Apr 2019
at 17:38
  • msg #544

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Nice rolls!

My Animal handling rolls were: 2, followed by a 3 for advantage with food!
Moira Ruadh
player, 207 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 8 Apr 2019
at 17:39
  • msg #545

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The Dice Roller is a fickle creature indeed.  Which is kind of why I like playing Halflings so often.  We have a built in safety net.  >_>
Thente
player, 213 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 8 Apr 2019
at 17:42
  • msg #546

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yup...though it wouldn't have helped my rolls this time around.

Shame this is just further going to fuel her opinion of Thente!
GM
GM, 333 posts
Mon 8 Apr 2019
at 18:05
  • msg #547

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Good enough. I'll update in the morning (it's quite late now)
Moira Ruadh
player, 208 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 8 Apr 2019
at 18:16
  • msg #548

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@DM
Cool, I'll go ahead and get a post up for my actions.

@Thente
To be fair, it's not Thente's abilities Moira questions, but rather his judgment.
Claire Larkspur
player, 117 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 9 Apr 2019
at 00:39
  • msg #549

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Actually, I just got Speak with Animals this level, so I'm going to try that out and see if we can't get some more detailed information - will post up before lunch.
GM
GM, 336 posts
Tue 9 Apr 2019
at 15:59
  • msg #550

Re: OOC Chat - 001

And you guys can thank Claire for the language group "HorseAnimals"

Population: 1 PC and all the squirrels everywhere
Moira Ruadh
player, 210 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 9 Apr 2019
at 16:29
  • msg #551

Re: OOC Chat - 001

A "Necklace of Speak with Animals" is required gear for statting out a Disney Princess build.
Thente
player, 214 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 9 Apr 2019
at 16:32
  • msg #552

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 550):

haha, best language group on rpol! :)
Ul'in
player, 11 posts
24/24HP AC17 PP15 Crafter
+0/0/2/2/5/3
Tue 9 Apr 2019
at 17:34
  • msg #553

Re: OOC Chat - 001

 If only firbolg could understand their own conversations?  Grin
This sounds like the hip language group.

I mean... Squirrels.  Nuts
Claire Larkspur
player, 119 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 10 Apr 2019
at 00:04
  • msg #554

Re: OOC Chat - 001

What does the fox say?
Thente
player, 216 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 10 Apr 2019
at 00:08
  • msg #555

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Claire Larkspur (msg # 554):

I was hoping YOU could tell me now. Thente has always wondered as they bark and run away!

We're going to have to go on a fox hunt to ask one now... :D
Claire Larkspur
player, 121 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 10 Apr 2019
at 00:56
  • msg #556

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Indeed the fox is a mysterious one. :)

I now cannot unsee this image of Claire communicating with this friendly horse in morse as a matter of course.
Claire Larkspur
player, 123 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 10 Apr 2019
at 02:49
  • msg #557

Re: OOC Chat - 001

omg these horses are hilarious - I think I'm going to have to use this spell more often. :D
GM
GM, 339 posts
Wed 10 Apr 2019
at 04:22
  • msg #558

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Thente

Yes the wagons resumed moving, I had it "continue" after Moira got the horse back under control. You can have it stop if you like, since Claire has the reins.
Claire Larkspur
player, 125 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 10 Apr 2019
at 04:29
  • msg #559

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Oh, I had the cart move on too. But I imagine we're travelling at an easy enough pace that interaction would be possible.
Thente
player, 219 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 10 Apr 2019
at 07:44
  • msg #560

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No, we're fine as long as Thente can keep up walking for now. I was just confused or missed a part of a post or something.
Moira Ruadh
player, 213 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 10 Apr 2019
at 20:55
  • msg #561

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well, it's not like Thente can't just hop onto the back of the wagon.

@DM
Given that a 17 didn't yield any especially helpful information, I doubt I'd fare any better.  But could I try a suitable skill check to see if Moira's travels or knowledge of the area can flesh out the discussion?  Like if she's heard any cautionary stories about the roads or knows about what kind of dangerous critters may be native along the area?
GM
GM, 344 posts
Thu 11 Apr 2019
at 00:31
  • msg #562

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I don't think there is anything I would be able to to add about the described assailant at this point that previous knowledge checks didn't have a chance at grabbing. If it's in the general sense of road dangers, you can try History.
Moira Ruadh
player, 214 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 11 Apr 2019
at 00:36
  • msg #563

Re: OOC Chat - 001

History w/Halfling Luck Reroll
Moira Ruadh rolled 12 using 1d20


Probably not much on that front.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:36, Thu 11 Apr 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 216 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 11 Apr 2019
at 20:35
  • msg #564

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hey all,
So, in an unpleasant bit of news, I just got let go from my job.  On the plus side, I've got plenty of time to pay attention to the game now, at least until I get things back under control and working again.  I just wanted to give everyone a heads up for when this will inevitably cause fluctuations in my schedule.
Ul'in
player, 16 posts
24/24HP AC17 PP15 Crafter
+0/0/2/2/5/3
Thu 11 Apr 2019
at 20:43
  • msg #565

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry to hear that, Moira.  It's a kickout of the legs whether you know its coming or not.

Good folk always rebound, though, and your readiness that way reads from your words.
Moira Ruadh
player, 217 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 11 Apr 2019
at 21:28
  • msg #566

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm sort of used to it, as it's a pretty common situation in my field.  I work in the video game development industry, so these sort of layoffs are unfortunately to be expected.
Thente
player, 221 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 11 Apr 2019
at 21:49
  • msg #567

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 564):

Bummer to hear! I've had 2 layoffs from 2 different company's (startup life...) in the last 2 years so I'm right there with you.

Wish I had any connections in that industry to help, but it's a far cry from my professional world.
Claire Larkspur
player, 129 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 12 Apr 2019
at 00:39
  • msg #568

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry to hear about that Moira..

Please take time to care of yourself too! Hoping something new will come your way soon.
GM
GM, 348 posts
Fri 12 Apr 2019
at 03:12
  • msg #569

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Oh no, sorry about that Moira. Hope things get better soon.

Video game industry sounds exciting though :x

With regards to the current situation, Claire can give me an additional perception check for "looking for danger"

Also before anyone asks, no-one spotted anything using passive perception :<

I'll see if Doderic posts soon before updating tonight.
Claire Larkspur
player, 130 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 12 Apr 2019
at 03:45
  • msg #570

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Updated! I have a bad feeling about this...
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 133 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Fri 12 Apr 2019
at 06:46
  • msg #571

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry to hear it as well, Moira. I'm a software developer for business applications so shoot me a PM if you want someone to discuss things.

I'm working on my post. Had a busy night.
GM
GM, 349 posts
Fri 12 Apr 2019
at 07:06
  • msg #572

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thanks Doderic, I understand everyone has RL responsibilities.

Will update about 7 hours from now!
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 135 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Fri 12 Apr 2019
at 07:14
  • msg #573

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In other news, independent of Moira's free time influx...

I'm thinking about running a slow to medium -paced (2-3 posts/week) Dungeon world game and I would be honored to have any of you fine folks as players. So if it sounds like something you're looking for, let me know.

I have two possible concepts and will discuss them in detail once we have gathered 4 or 5 players (I have 3 so far). Working titles are "An Unusual Story" and "A Hero Foretold".
I'll try to set things up over the weekend, and then we can spend the Easter holidays to slowly define things and characters.
GM
GM, 352 posts
Fri 12 Apr 2019
at 13:42
  • msg #574

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry about the one-sided conversation Ul'in, I'm trying to see a good place to fit you into the little travel arc I planned, so the NPCs going to have weird philosophical questions until the party is done playing scooby-doo with a bunch of weeds :P

Actually, you can take this chance to ask about the world IC if you like. That totally isn't my entire plan in dropping a talkative halfling bard next to you.
Ul'in
player, 18 posts
24/24HP AC17 PP15 Crafter
+0/0/2/2/5/3
Fri 12 Apr 2019
at 14:53
  • msg #575

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Little folk are more cautious about sharing their details - fear of being eaten, I should think :)
Ul'in
player, 19 posts
24/24HP AC17 PP15 Crafter
+0/0/2/2/5/3
Fri 12 Apr 2019
at 14:56
  • msg #576

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
Sorry about the one-sided conversation Ul'in, I'm trying to see a good place to fit you into the little travel arc I planned, so the NPCs going to have weird philosophical questions until the party is done playing scooby-doo with a bunch of weeds :P
It's the dreaded Cannabis Monster - and it has the munchies!


... Mind you, better than investigating a bunch of wees, and then facing the dreaded Tinkle monster.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 137 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Fri 12 Apr 2019
at 19:27
  • msg #577

Re: OOC Chat - 001

For those interested: link to another game
Moira Ruadh
player, 218 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 13 Apr 2019
at 04:28
  • msg #578

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@DN
Given Moira's vantage point atop the cart, she should be able to see whole spot Thente has uncovered.  Is it perfectly round, or does it look like a blast?  Or, as much as I hate to ask it - does it look like a footprint?
GM
GM, 354 posts
Sun 14 Apr 2019
at 06:00
  • msg #579

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry for the late response Moira, but your question pretty much is tied to Thente's so I answered them both IC.

Bit of a busy week. Note that we're switching to the 1 post/weekend requirement since folks here seem to be busy over sat/sun as well.
GM
GM, 360 posts
Wed 17 Apr 2019
at 13:39
  • msg #580

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Wait crap I just realized I have it as Ul'in instead of U'lin. Fixed it! Also your language groups should be working now D:
U'lin
player, 23 posts
24/24HP AC17 PP15 Crafter
+0/0/2/2/5/3
Wed 17 Apr 2019
at 14:06
  • msg #581

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
Wait crap I just realized I have it as Ul'in instead of U'lin. Fixed it! Also your language groups should be working now D:
Grin.  I figured it was more fun to clarify that this way :p
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 141 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 17 Apr 2019
at 19:37
  • msg #582

Re: OOC Chat - 001

U'lin:
gnomish friend

And yet, he's a halfling. We small folk aren't all the same you know!
This message was last edited by the player at 20:21, Wed 17 Apr 2019.
Thente
player, 229 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 17 Apr 2019
at 20:12
  • msg #583

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Doderic Cookingpot (msg # 582):

I thought when he said "gnomish friend" he was referring to someone off-screen, not the halfling known as 'Noin' that is now in the cart?
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 143 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 17 Apr 2019
at 20:21
  • msg #584

Re: OOC Chat - 001

*facepalm*
That's what you get for skimping the text.
Also, time to sleep!
U'lin
player, 26 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Wed 17 Apr 2019
at 20:57
  • msg #585

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
In reply to Doderic Cookingpot (msg # 582):

I thought when he said "gnomish friend" he was referring to someone off-screen, not the halfling known as 'Noin' that is now in the cart?
Correct
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 144 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 18 Apr 2019
at 08:45
  • msg #586

Re: OOC Chat - 001

How much time did pass between finding the mare and getting to the inn (asking for Mage Armor). Did we have a short rest during that time? - I assume yes (for spell slot recovery)
GM
GM, 362 posts
Thu 18 Apr 2019
at 08:58
  • msg #587

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It is my intent to be a bit stricter with resting in this game, especially when traveling. I would say if Doderic -isn't- performing his job as Rearguard and is instead reading his spellbook while riding in the back of the cart, he can gain the benefit of a short rest.

Driving/riding a cart can be relaxing, but that assumes you actually are resting/relaxing and not on the alert.

For future reference, when we start travel I'll ask for the typical roles (Driver, Scout, Rearguard) anyone not doing one of these roles may instead be resting during the trip and gain the benefits of a SR if it lasts 1 hour with no interruptions (this does not include riding on horseback - I'll like to see someone sleep while riding on horseback without training).

Of course, this means that they won't be contributing to the group alertness/readyness if anything happens during the journey itself.
U'lin
player, 27 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Thu 18 Apr 2019
at 13:13
  • msg #588

Re: OOC Chat - 001

U'lin has a decent awareness, so observer or rearguard would be better fit for his skillset
Thente
player, 230 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 18 Apr 2019
at 15:57
  • msg #589

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente will pretty much never want to rest during travel... unless he absolutely needs to. Other than spending HD, I don't get anything on a short rest, so might as well stay alert if I'm not injured.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 145 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 18 Apr 2019
at 16:53
  • msg #590

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thanks for the clarification GM, it makes sense. I'm fine without a rest but will keep it in mind for the future.

Any timeline for our travel regarding the duration of Mage Armor?
Moira Ruadh
player, 222 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 18 Apr 2019
at 17:01
  • msg #591

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira is in the same boat as Thente, so she'll be fine taking any necessary position to make sure the others have a chance to get more necessary resting time during travel.
GM
GM, 363 posts
Thu 18 Apr 2019
at 17:20
  • msg #592

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Doderic Cookingpot (msg # 590):

Definitely still have mage armour up - let's say you still have at least 2 hours left (it'll wear off before bed, essentially)

To answer Thente's question OOC:

1) You guys are about 200ft away from the inn
2) The smoke is rather faint, and in the evening light its not as obvious until you got closer
3) The horses don't seem to have reacted to anything yet. That said, the wind is blowing downhill (away from you guys, towards the inn) -

Thente are you just getting off the horse as walking right up to the inn?
Thente
player, 232 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 18 Apr 2019
at 17:28
  • msg #593

Re: OOC Chat - 001

My intent was that Thente was walking behind the wagon with U'lin chatting as they finsihed the journey to the Inn.

Kind of depends on how things shake out with the walk up, which is part of why I wanted to know distance, but the goal is to look into the dark windows with the darkvision from the goggles.

I don't think I'm trying to stealth or anything, we did just drive up in cart with many horses after all. But ears/eyes open with my perception roll, and if that same roll works for peering in the Inn, great!
GM
GM, 364 posts
Thu 18 Apr 2019
at 17:37
  • msg #594

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm gonna just see what the others do first before responding.

Also its like 2am here and I can't sleep.

Help.
U'lin
player, 29 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Thu 18 Apr 2019
at 18:22
  • msg #595

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Wait a second.... I was told team NO DARKVISION.  Shenanigans! :)

They are such a super item for daylight folk.  Glad you folk did the climbing/recovery? :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 223 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 18 Apr 2019
at 18:30
  • msg #596

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well, no natural Darkvision.  But tools are allowed.  :3  Speaking of which, Moira needs to get more lantern oil sooner or later since she used all her spares as bombs.  :3c
Thente
player, 233 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 18 Apr 2019
at 18:54
  • msg #597

Re: OOC Chat - 001

and technically the goggles may or may not just be loaners. They belong to the corpse in the cart and we might have to give them back...
GM
GM, 366 posts
Fri 19 Apr 2019
at 16:33
  • msg #598

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Just some rule clarifications:

-readying a spell basically means casting the spell all the way up to the release. You use up the slot -and- the other party sees you casting, just not "firing". Readying a spell also eats up concentration, so you can't ready a spell and concentrate on something else.

Also launching a readied spell is a reaction, so you can't cast a readied spell and use a different reaction at the same time.

From the Player Rules:

quote:
'When you ready a spell, you cast it as normal but hold its energy, which you release with your reaction when the trigger occurs. To be readied, a spell must have a casting time of 1 action, and holding onto the spell’s magic requires concentration (explained in chapter 10). If your concentration is broken, the spell dissipates without taking effect. For example, if you are concentrating on the web spell and ready magic missile, your web spell ends, and if you take damage before you release magic missile with your reaction, your concentration might be broken.'

This message was lightly edited by the GM at 16:33, Fri 19 Apr 2019.
Thente
player, 235 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 19 Apr 2019
at 16:36
  • msg #599

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Interesting, I didn't realize... either of those things for the ready a spell, though they make sense!

I'll edit my PM line in my post for you as I don't want her seeing me cast a spell. I'm trying to de-escalate, not the opposite.
GM
GM, 367 posts
Fri 19 Apr 2019
at 16:39
  • msg #600

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No issue! It's a commonly overlooked ruling so I figured this was a good chance to PSA the rest of the group too.
Moira Ruadh
player, 225 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 19 Apr 2019
at 21:18
  • msg #601

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Have the rest of us driven near enough to see/hear all that's going on between Thente and the lady at the window?  Or are we still too far to get the details or join in the conversation?
GM
GM, 368 posts
Sat 20 Apr 2019
at 02:42
  • msg #602

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I would say the carts pretty nwar (70ish feet) neither are being quiet, so you can hear everything.

Updates in 12 hours. Happy Good Friday/Easter Sunday to folks in the US
Claire Larkspur
player, 136 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sun 21 Apr 2019
at 01:27
  • msg #603

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm not feeling too good - maybe the seasonal flu, so just to let you know that my posting will depend on my energy levels :(
Thente
player, 237 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 22 Apr 2019
at 16:10
  • msg #604

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Looks like it was a busy Easter weekend for many of us anyway Claire! Feel better!
GM
GM, 370 posts
Tue 23 Apr 2019
at 03:41
  • msg #605

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira roll persuasion with advantage since everyone seems so eager to work :P
Moira Ruadh
player, 228 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 23 Apr 2019
at 05:12
  • msg #606

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Persuasion w/Advantage
Moira Ruadh rolled 24 using 1d20+5 ((19))


Related, because I found it amusing since costs and money are always underestimated in fantasy settings/RPGs:

Wealth in D&D 5e:
One gold piece is worth ten silver pieces, the most prevalent coin among commoners. A silver piece buys a laborer's work for a day, a flask of lamp oil, or a night's rest in a poor inn.


For a little mathematical scenario, let's round up to say a D&D laborer's workday is 10 hours which comes out to 1 Copper per hour/1 Silver per day at the end.  Nimmy's initial price of 2 GP a head means she's asking for a combined total of 120 days' wages (20 work day's worth of wages from 6 guests).  It's not really possible to do a direct GP-to-USD conversion, but just to give an idea, the current federal minimum wage is $7.25/hour.  That equals out to Nimmy basically charging $1,450 per person for a single night's stay.  That's downright criminal levels of price gouging.

Moira's haggling would reduce it to 2 days wages a head, which is still a lot (1 GP 2 SP total, or effectively $145 a person) but more in line with a reasonable charge for a night's stay at a decent motel.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:20, Tue 23 Apr 2019.
GM
GM, 371 posts
Tue 23 Apr 2019
at 05:52
  • msg #607

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yeap, there's a reason for this of course. I find it more hilarious that Claire is so blase with spending her gold :P
Moira Ruadh
player, 229 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 23 Apr 2019
at 06:06
  • msg #608

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm going to chalk it up to Claire just being that kind-hearted and perhaps inexperienced with broader economics given the small-town upbringing.  Moira, meanwhile, has to avoid laughing in Nimmy's face since she wants a kitchen to cook in.  :3c
GM
GM, 373 posts
Tue 23 Apr 2019
at 06:15
  • msg #609

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Incidentally, if anyone besides Noin has broken limbs, damaged clothes or stuff, I think U'lins looking for work.

Feel free to include a PM to him in your next post about the condition of your gear :)
Thente
player, 239 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 23 Apr 2019
at 16:20
  • msg #610

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 606):

One of my players and I worked out that 1 GP is roughly equivalent to $100 USD to help us wrap our minds around how much wealth PC's tend to have on hand at any given moment, and also to put in perspective "hordes" of wealth, like that being sought in the Dragon Heist module.

It mostly works out in our minds. A riding horse in our world could easily cost $7,500 (75 gp in the PHB). A day's food for 5 sp ($50), etc. It certainly breaks down with many PHB pricing, but we play with pricing in our game, and it just helps put things in perspective for us as we think about wealth, what others have or don't, and how crazy PC adventurer's are with the wealth they accumulate and throw around.
Moira Ruadh
player, 230 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 23 Apr 2019
at 16:30
  • msg #611

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well, Adventurers do have the unenviable job of throwing themselves at all the extremely dangerous things that happen to carry valuables in large volumes, so it sort of balances out in the end.  If healing weren't so easy to do, there would be far fewer Adventurers in general.

Money in D&D is always a really fun topic though.  My own local group was always really loose-and-easy with their money while thinking I was making all my NPCs super stingy for no reason.  They wouldn't even bother picking up Copper.  Then I sat them down and really explained the math of it all, at which point they all immediately started being far more economic, haggling at every turn for better prices, and actually getting happy when they'd find what was previously "only" 10 GP in a treasure chest.  They also started to realize how many times they'd been totally ripped off by big-city merchants who vastly overcharged them since they never realized what their gold was actually worth, which led to some amusing vendettas.  :3
U'lin
player, 33 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 04:22
  • msg #612

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Does this Inn county as a save point- er safe point, such that we will regain spells?

If so, heck, even if not, how badly hurt are folk looking?
Guessing nothing grievous from the absence of description?
Anyone down?
GM
GM, 375 posts
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 05:40
  • msg #613

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yes, this inn counts as a safe point for regaining spells upon long rest. In general, a shelter with a maintained shrine will function as a safe point.
Claire Larkspur
player, 139 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 05:46
  • msg #614

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 608):

More or less what I was going for!

I think for Claire, money isn't necessarily something to be accumulated, but used to make you (and other people) happy. I mean, who wants to keep a bag of gold when you can buy a cow? There are some pretty convincing sociological arguments that the idea that we should amass currency (as opposed to grain, livestock, etc) to the extent that modern people do is a pretty recent idea (like within the past 2-3 centuries). Also, if you came upon $10,000USD, you might not be so adverse to the idea of paying $50 to $100 for something you really need, particularly if you're religious and think that God gave you the money for precisely that reason. :P
Moira Ruadh
player, 232 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 06:48
  • msg #615

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Religion and money in D&D, here in particular given Claire and Moira, is always interesting as well.  Moira is a follower of Waukeen, the goddess of trade and merchants.  A lot of people see them as greedy since they tend to accrue a lot of wealth, but their entire M.O. is that everyone should be financially secure and fair trade of goods, services, and wealth is the best way to make that happen.  So the church promotes constant charity, investing in peoples' businesses, and giving everyone the opportunity to gain fair money.  People who hoard wealth, limit commerce, and practice unfair deals are antithetical to the faith, which is one of several reasons why Moira's so keen on getting rid of the Zhentarim presence in Nightstone.

In this case, Moira and Claire are very much on the same page in terms of the function of money and making sure it's put to good use.  But Moira's just far more keen on getting the most bang for their buck by way of fair trade since, to her, the transaction itself is more important than the profits.  She understands Nimmy was likely trying to recoup her losses since there's no business coming her way at the moment, so she's let the overall situation slide without comment.  If that sort of gross overcharging had come from a merchant who clearly had wealth already and was just being greedy, it'd pretty much be a slap in the face to a Waukeenar and Moira wouldn't stand for it.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:49, Wed 24 Apr 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 149 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 12:45
  • msg #616

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic is mostly indifferent about money. So far he managed with what he had and didn't see much point to seeking more of it. Luckily he has Moira to slap some sense into him. Although,  once he starts collecting spells...
GM
GM, 376 posts
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 15:28
  • msg #617

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No update tonight (Weds) but also because I need a break (long week).

I like how this party is really rustic, especially with the addition of U'lin. Very different 'feel' from what I usually see.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 151 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 16:34
  • msg #618

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Even players need a break from murder hoboing!
Thanks for bringing us together.
Thente
player, 242 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 16:55
  • msg #619

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Doderic Cookingpot (msg # 618):

Lol... I've been on a strong streak lately of having characters who don't just go around murdering things.

In my TBT Dragon Heist game, I'm playing a member of the City Watch even. We're almost to the end of that module, and so far I've only killed fiends, undead... and some drow. But they were trying to kill me first! Oh, and a wererat.

Everything else I've done the "knock out" on final blow mechanic and then arrested any that I kept alive, turning them over to the watch for various crimes.

The rest of my table... is less excited about this type of character because it constrains their abilities to just be murder-hobos.
Moira Ruadh
player, 233 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 21:23
  • msg #620

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I always really like the more low-key, down to earth parties best.  Less "Lord of the Rings" and more "The Hobbit".  It's very often in games that the party are so involved with the bigger overarching scenario that simple things like everyday chores, cooking food, and taking in the simpler aspects of life are wholly overlooked.  Given that "Storm King's Thunder" really gets trucking later on, it's nice to have these quiet, mundane moments in the beginning.  It certainly helps that I'm a big fan of the "slice of life" genre.

@Thente
A "capture and contain" approach sounds really interesting.  I've tried to do similar in past games, but my local group of murder-hobos isn't so accepting.  They just saw it as a chance to easily stab whoever I tied up as soon as my back was turned, to the point that it became a sort of running gag.  ^^;  I'm actually rather curious about what a game would be like for a character who had a strict "no-killing" policy and actually managed to keep adherence to it as part of the story, like Aang in the "Avatar: The Last Airbender" cartoon.  For a character who maybe isn't inclined toward pacifism, maybe something like they've been cursed and if they take a life, something really bad happens to them and they have to get through their adventure making sure everyone survives the encounters.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:24, Wed 24 Apr 2019.
Thente
player, 243 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 21:40
  • msg #621

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I would say that this game thus far has been the most "fleshed out" from a kick off and characterization perspective of any game I've been in on rpol, maybe even TBT (because PBP allows so much in character RP). Partly all of us getting into it and partly our illustrious GM's willingness to take our background ideas and tie/ground us in the game before we ever kicked off.

Bummer Ceryna didn't stick around, but so far U'lin looks like a great addition!




No kill is really hard in d&d.

I played a couple of Vow of Poverty/Vow of Peace sorcerer's with the Nonlethal substitution feat for my spells that did the trick. 5e at least has the easier "knock out" mechanic for melee, but it's really hard to incapacitate with spells other than, get them really low and cast sleep!
U'lin
player, 34 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 21:58
  • msg #622

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
Bummer Ceryna didn't stick around, but so far U'lin looks like a great addition!
Love the qualifier :p


Thente:
No kill is really hard in d&d.
I played a couple of Vow of Poverty/Vow of Peace sorcerer's with the Nonlethal substitution feat for my spells that did the trick. 5e at least has the easier "knock out" mechanic for melee, but it's really hard to incapacitate with spells other than, get them really low and cast sleep!
Yup.  Paralysis/rope trickery... perhaps monk stun, etc.
It's quite challenging.
Moira Ruadh
player, 234 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 22:24
  • msg #623

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I actually have a houserule in my games for inflicting non-lethal damage via spells.  I allow for certain attack Cantrips to essentially be cast in "stun mode", which causes their power to be diminished enough to knock someone out rather than injure them.  "Eldritch Blast", "Poison Spray", "Ray of Frost", "Shocking Grasp", and "Vicious Mockery" all qualify.  Thing like "Firebolt", "Acid Spray", "Sacred Flame", and "Chill Touch" don't for obvious reasons.
Thente
player, 244 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 22:32
  • msg #624

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That's a great houserule Moira. Consider it *yoinked* for my TBT games :)

@U'lin - didn't mean to imply anything with the qualification. Your posts have been great so far. Great characterization and all that! It was more intended as: "sad Ceryna left, but U'lin has been a great addition since he joined".
GM
GM, 377 posts
Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 04:42
  • msg #625

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
I actually have a houserule in my games for inflicting non-lethal damage via spells.  I allow for certain attack Cantrips to essentially be cast in "stun mode", which causes their power to be diminished enough to knock someone out rather than injure them.  "Eldritch Blast", "Poison Spray", "Ray of Frost", "Shocking Grasp", and "Vicious Mockery" all qualify.  Thing like "Firebolt", "Acid Spray", "Sacred Flame", and "Chill Touch" don't for obvious reasons.


I will consider this for the future. Need some time to look over the spells and think over it, but I like the option for non-lethal.

Also check Announcement page for plans regarding the recent server-death.
Moira Ruadh
player, 235 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 04:47
  • msg #626

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yay, we're finally back online!  I hope the server trouble wasn't anything too severe...

Also, lol at that tlk.io server name.  :3

I've never used tlk.io before so I'm not sure of its overall functionality.  But there's also more meaty free software like Discord or Slack, if you've ever used any of those.

https://slack.com/
https://discordapp.com/
This message was last edited by the player at 04:51, Fri 26 Apr 2019.
Claire Larkspur
player, 141 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 05:00
  • msg #627

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
Lol... I've been on a strong streak lately of having characters who don't just go around murdering things.


Late to this conversation topic but, you all may be amused to know that this is the least murderous iteration of Claire I have played. So much so that I probably should think of them as completely different characters...Literally the only thing they all have in common is the greatsword.
GM
GM, 379 posts
Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 05:04
  • msg #628

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
Yay, we're finally back online!  I hope the server trouble wasn't anything too severe...

Also, lol at that tlk.io server name.  :3

I've never used tlk.io before so I'm not sure of its overall functionality.  But there's also more meaty free software like Discord or Slack, if you've ever used any of those.

https://slack.com/
https://discordapp.com/


I was suggesting tlk.io because of the anonymity factor, but if folks are comfortable with it, I can create a Discord or Slack server for us.
Thente
player, 245 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 05:45
  • msg #629

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Whew. That was brutal...

I’m more familiar with slack personally. And I don’t care about anonymity for the most part.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 152 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sat 27 Apr 2019
at 16:15
  • msg #630

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry for my absence, the downtime threw me out of sync and then had a busy Friday.

If it's worth something I prefer Discord as an alternative, but I hope we won't need it.

P.S. Scratch that. My brain got mushed so no IC post until I get some rest
This message was last edited by the player at 19:13, Sat 27 Apr 2019.
Thente
player, 246 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sat 27 Apr 2019
at 17:07
  • msg #631

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry, I'm not sure what to respond to that post for me... I'm just choppin wood... :)
GM
GM, 381 posts
Sun 28 Apr 2019
at 01:34
  • msg #632

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Its mostly targeted at U'lin now, no issue.
Thente
player, 247 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sun 28 Apr 2019
at 15:20
  • msg #633

Re: OOC Chat - 001

OK... I hope we didn't lose U'lin due to the big 404 outage...

also - I'm good if you want to set up a Discord. That'll work.
GM
GM, 383 posts
Thu 2 May 2019
at 11:44
  • msg #634

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Urghdsasdf...

DM is sick and on meds, updates might be delayed.

Wurmplaslumrpleschtsup...
Moira Ruadh
player, 239 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 3 May 2019
at 00:11
  • msg #635

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Aw, that sucks DM.  I know the feeling though - I've been feeling a mite under the weather the past few days myself.  Not enough to stop me, but enough to make me dread a coming cold.  >_<

Rest up and relax while you can.  We can talk among ourselves for the time being.  I'm going to retcon a bit of my last post to remove Moira going to find Nimmy - I'll just have her stay at the dinner table for the moment, so you don't have to hurry to post for now.
GM
GM, 384 posts
Fri 3 May 2019
at 08:41
  • msg #636

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thanks for understanding.

Meds seem to be working, and I got a bunch of sleep so I'll probably push on update through tonight.

Also appreciate that retcon - I'll get Nimmy down soon :)
Thente
player, 250 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 3 May 2019
at 14:40
  • msg #637

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 636):

Glad you're feeling better! My 2 littles and my wife all have bad colds right now so I'm just dreading it hitting me too.

Also... that statement about getting Nimmy down sounded ominous! :)
GM
GM, 386 posts
Fri 3 May 2019
at 16:58
  • msg #638

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Actually, this does seem like a good place for the party to chat with each other, maybe talk with the NPCs a bit. I've had Nimmy and Noin (why are both my NPCs named starting with N) chirp in, but the floors all yours. What do you guys think?
GM
GM, 388 posts
Sun 5 May 2019
at 14:12
  • msg #639

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Alright, I'll set a cut off point for the dinner convo (you guys can ask the NPCs stuff too if you like!) to be maybe in 2 days (Tuesday or so) and then I'll skip you guys forward.

Does anyone have any plans for stuff they want to do at night? Can put them here or PM me so I can plan.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 156 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sun 5 May 2019
at 16:44
  • msg #640

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Before going to sleep, Doderic will cast Alarms to cover doors and windows of each of the three rooms (not sure what's the layout, but hoping that one spell can cover two entrances), and on the main door of the inn.
Moira Ruadh
player, 242 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 6 May 2019
at 04:00
  • msg #641

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Assuming we're sharing rooms and that Thente & U'lin are going to keep by the fire like they said before, then I guess it'd be Moira and Claire to one room, with Doderic and Noin in another.

Moira's going to tidy up in the kitchen before she turns in for the night, and she'll also aim to be the first one awake so she can get started on breakfast in the morning.  Making bread, maybe doing some fishing if there's some gear she can borrow in the boathouse, etc.
Thente
player, 253 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 6 May 2019
at 09:24
  • msg #642

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I don't think Thente has any special plans for the night, hunkering down is pretty much it.

He'll make sure that Veradda's body is secure inside. Probably near where he and U'lin are sleeping just to keep an eye on it.
Claire Larkspur
player, 145 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 7 May 2019
at 03:26
  • msg #643

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No particular plans for the night either. Claire will probably help Moira with clean-up and wake up together with her too, to help out.
GM
GM, 390 posts
Tue 7 May 2019
at 10:08
  • msg #644

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hm, I'm going to see if U'lin has any responses to the questions before pushing things forward in say, 14 hours from now.
U'lin
player, 38 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Tue 7 May 2019
at 18:03
  • msg #645

Re: OOC Chat - 001

And he most certainly did, so thanks, DM.
U'lin
player, 39 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Wed 8 May 2019
at 17:54
  • msg #646

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I presume their stealth didn't wake up Ulin, DM?
GM
GM, 393 posts
Wed 8 May 2019
at 17:55
  • msg #647

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hm, roll me a perception check with disadvantage.

Thente, Moira, both roll me Stealth (secret rolls if possible)
Thente
player, 257 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 8 May 2019
at 18:00
  • msg #648

Re: OOC Chat - 001

PM
GM
GM, 394 posts
Wed 8 May 2019
at 18:25
  • msg #649

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Aaaand they both flubbed it. U'lin, you didn't hear the conversation specifically, but with your PP score, you -are- awake, enough to have noticed both Moira and Thente leave.

You may post your actions while they do what's going on outside. I'll figure how to resolve this time-wise somehow >_<
Thente
player, 260 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 8 May 2019
at 18:50
  • msg #650

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yay flubbing :)

Also, wouldn't we have set off Doderic's Alarm spell/spells entering and leaving the room? That should have woken him up when Moira came in and when Thente walked out right?
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 159 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 8 May 2019
at 19:09
  • msg #651

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Nah, Doderic knows his stuff. So far everything is fine.
Moira Ruadh
player, 247 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 8 May 2019
at 19:10
  • msg #652

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The "Alarm" spell is designed so the caster can designate specific people who can pass the threshold without setting it off.  So Doderic logically would have cleared the party members to be able to pass through without triggering it, unless he had good reason to exclude anyone in the group.
Thente
player, 261 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 8 May 2019
at 19:19
  • msg #653

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I was just basing it off of his IC request:
quote:
"It would be best if everyone could keep to their rooms." the mage spoke before going upstairs, handbook ready in hand. "I'll do my best to raise no false alarms, but it can be tricky."

and assumed that he wasn't excluding us.
U'lin
player, 40 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Thu 9 May 2019
at 01:47
  • msg #654

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
I was just basing it off of his IC request:
quote:
"It would be best if everyone could keep to their rooms." the mage spoke before going upstairs, handbook ready in hand. "I'll do my best to raise no false alarms, but it can be tricky."
and assumed that he wasn't excluding us.
Good call.
I just read that at a Montgomery Scotty miracle worker setup :)
GM
GM, 395 posts
Thu 9 May 2019
at 02:31
  • msg #655

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I have PM'd Doderic to check the conditions of his Alarm spells, and they don't trigger so far :P

EDIT: And yea you guys pretty much figured this out quickly. Thank you Moira for agreeing to let me do this and providing some hints on her writing style.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:42, Thu 09 May 2019.
Claire Larkspur
player, 147 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 9 May 2019
at 03:28
  • msg #656

Re: OOC Chat - 001

!!!!!!!!!

I didn't know rpol let you do that!
Moira Ruadh
player, 248 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 9 May 2019
at 03:36
  • msg #657

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yep, the owner of a RPOL game can post on any subscribed profile within their game, or make new stand-in names entirely on the spot.  GM here asked if they could borrow my posting ability for a bit to help sell the situation better, and it's been fun sitting back watching the Scooby-Doo antics.  :3
Claire Larkspur
player, 148 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 9 May 2019
at 04:00
  • msg #658

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Totally did me a bamboozle.
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 04:00, Thu 09 May 2019.
GM
GM, 397 posts
Thu 9 May 2019
at 04:43
  • msg #659

Re: OOC Chat - 001

U'lin, I'm going to assume you're sort of peeking at them from the back window. You can give me a Perception check to discern words/actions in the dim light. Edit it into your original post.
GM
GM, 398 posts
Thu 9 May 2019
at 04:43
  • msg #660

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Claire Larkspur:
Totally did me a bamboozle.


Then my work here is done

*fwwoosh*
GM
GM, 399 posts
Thu 9 May 2019
at 07:41
  • msg #661

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente, you can Act first. Go ahead and edit your post.

U'lin, you might as well roll too.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 160 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 9 May 2019
at 07:43
  • msg #662

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Now, this is fun :D
And raises questions on how does Alarm recognize creatures ;)
GM
GM, 400 posts
Thu 9 May 2019
at 07:53
  • msg #663

Re: OOC Chat - 001

This is interesting, and we -should- discuss this in the open I think.

There are two ways that Alarm could work:

1) Descriptors. Alarm 'magically' senses creatures, but can only really work off physical characteristics. It -does- bypass illusions and invisibility though. Its intelligent enough to recognize things like race, sex, size, weight but doesn't deal well with abstract concepts like 'magical beings' or 'bakers'.

So when you designate specific creatures, you are actually providing a detailed physical description of each individual that is excluded from the spell.

2) Alarm works off auras, the 'targeting' being similar to how spells like Spiritual Guardians work (you can 'designate' creatures you see to be excluded from the effects). So the spell recognizes -specific- exceptions through their unique magical/spiritual aura, though this requires said individual be present during the casting itself. Arguably, certain spells (nondetection for example) may be able to bypass this.

Doderic, what do you think?
Moira Ruadh
player, 249 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 9 May 2019
at 08:15
  • msg #664

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'd argue against #2 on the grounds that it adds a restriction to the spell that isn't present in other similarly-functioning spells of varying levels.  Spells like "Sending" or "Scrying" intelligently identify their target with the intensity of effect based on the Caster's own knowledge.  A lot of spells work based on the Caster's intentions as opposed to specific keywords.  It'd be too easy to get around things through endless potential loopholes otherwise.  If we go with #1's description-based detection, then presumably anyone with a good disguise could bypass the "Alarm", or any change in a designated exception's appearance could potentially yield a false positive.  In any case, the spell doesn't see.  It just knows, based on the Caster's intentions.  Presumably nothing short of a full Polymorph could trick it.

I'd argue a more balanced rule would be that Doderic would have to know/be familiar/be aware of an individual to name them as a specific exception to "Alarm" rather than that person having to be present at the time of casting.  I mean, if Doderic was trying to set an "Alarm" against a specific person who's a threat to him, it would be kind of silly to require said person to be present as Doderic is laying down the spell, wouldn't it?  That would prevent too-vague concepts from being put into use.  Doderic couldn't say the spell would alert him of "enemies" because he doesn't necessarily know who that may be, but he could say "anyone who isn't my friend/party member/this handful of people" because he knows who those people are specifically and the spell would fill in the blank that anyone who wasn't on his mind in that context would trigger it.

Also, "Nondetection" only prevents notice from Divination and "Scrying".  "Alarm" is an Abjuration spell, so "Nondetection" wouldn't bypass it.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:27, Thu 09 May 2019.
GM
GM, 401 posts
Thu 9 May 2019
at 09:08
  • msg #665

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hm, so in this specific case, given that Doderic has designated "the party + Noin" as exceptions to the Alarm, would you say an Alarm spell would be able to distinguish between someone who was on the list, and someone who was disguised (magically perhaps) as someone on the list? Or vice versa? (say one of you'z was a druid that wild shaped into a rat, then ran into the Alarm. Would it trigger?)

The most generous reading of course, is that the spell "knows" specifically who the caster is referring to, regardless of disguises, illusions or polymorphs.

Times like this, I rather prefer the old password based Alarm...
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 161 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 9 May 2019
at 10:19
  • msg #666

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I didn't think about it at all until this turned up. It is quite a poor explanation of the spell. There is a discussion around this: http://www.enworld.org/forum/s...vs-Illusionary-magic

But I can't say I'm happy with any of the points.

How does Sending work (granted it's a higher level spell)? It finds the creature you are familiar with.

I'm fine with implementing a password, which sentient creatures are mentally pinged for when they enter the area of Alarm? Or have the imposter roll deception against caster's PP or spell DC?
Thente
player, 263 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 9 May 2019
at 16:05
  • msg #667

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Fascinating conundrum/debate!

Sorry this is long... tl/dr summary followed by my more detailed response.

tl/dr - Alarm is smart, auras/unique signatures interact with the Weave for effects that say "creatures you designate" to identify them. Maybe Nystul's and College of Whisper's 6th level ability can bypass, but not much else I'd say.


I agree with Moira that nondetection wouldn't help with alarm. You can't really set an Alarm against a specific creature though... it'd be more... excluding everyone/everything else from the Alarm effect if you really wanted to get that specific, so by default the thing you want to alarm is the only thing "not excluded".

On the link that Doderic shared, I think that no illusion magic should bypass an Alarm, except probably Nystul's Magic Aura. The problem here isn't illusion though, I believe it's a change shape effect, so transmutation/polymorph.

I think DM's #2 is more how spells work, but I disagree with Moira that we're adding language to the spell/effect. I see it more as how do we think about the "mechanics" of the magic. There are bunch of spells/items/effects (search DNDBeyond for "designate") that have this same language, "creatures you designate...when... [xyz]", so it is a pretty common thing. Given that it's common, you'd think it would be very hard to fool or it wouldn't be so common. No one would use it if it was easy to bypass.

In this case, I would say that you designate creatures through intention, whether that is sight or knowledge as you're casting the spell, and that Alarm intelligently identifies the correct creatures in some way. I'm pulling on some Brandon Sanderson for descriptive langauge here, but I'd say that each person/creature in a magical world should/would have unique "Spiritual DNA", call it an aura as the DM said above if you want. Spell or effects with the "creatures you designate" are able to read/identify that aura/unique signature for their purposes.

With the Change Shape monster ability, it is pretty specific that you take the form of something, but you retain all your stats (usually), so I'd say that wouldn't/couldn't fool a spell that has "creatures you designate" or even spells like Antipathy or a Paladin's Divine Sense abilities, since you retain your essence and only change your physical form/appearance.

The only thing I really see bypassing this kind of effect would be something like Nystul's where you can specifically fool things looking at auras/types/etc. OR Bard (College of Whispers) 6th level ability, Mantle of Whispers. When someone dies you capture their "shadow" and can use it as a disguise that also gives you some of the creatures knowledge. I'd say that is enough to bypass an Alarm effect as well.
GM
GM, 402 posts
Thu 9 May 2019
at 16:34
  • msg #668

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm glad I brought this up, since it will likely be relevant as we move forward (both by and against the party). Based on the feedback so far, here's what I'm proposing to handle Alarms:

1) Alarm wards against everything that is not excluded based on specified characteristics. Its intelligent enough to differentiate things like race, creature type, height, size...etc, and can't be fooled by disguises or illusions (it "looks into" the magical signature so to speak)

2) In addition, an Alarm spell can exclude a -specific- creature. This requires the caster to be either be familiar with the person (defined as having 'met' and interacted with them in some manner), or for the person in question to be present. If neither condition is met, then the exclusion will be rejected by the spell (and the caster will know).

3) Illusions and Transmutations do not fool Alarm -unless- they modify the characteristic being monitored for specifically. An alarm that has been set to exclude dwarves will be bypassable by a polymorph spell that changes race, but one that only changes appearance will not work (mechanically speaking, the spell 'sees' the stat block). This also means that for cases with specific creatures, unless an ability specifically allows a creature to be a physical -and- 'magical' clone of the creature (mantle of whispers is an excellent example), Alarm will still work.

In general, spells like Magic Aura will work for characteristics, but not for specific persons since it doesn't say you an emulate a specific magical 'signature', as Thente puts it. However, this might be modifiable with appropriate studying, divination and Arcana checks. I like the idea of opposed Arcana checks, and may use it to resolve specific scenarios where a degree of vagueness is present.




What do you folks think?

Also @Thente, you can go first. Edit your post if you like, I'll try to get the appropriate combat stuff started before the weekend hits us :)
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:35, Thu 09 May 2019.
Thente
player, 264 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 9 May 2019
at 16:43
  • msg #669

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Just posted!

Another question came up in my mind when I was posting my round, but it is specific to my spell list selection/options so I'll PM you.
GM
GM, 403 posts
Thu 9 May 2019
at 17:22
  • msg #670

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I pretty much saw this coming once the sleep spell failed.

"Moira's gone crazy" though? Not so much lol

All of you buggers roll initiative as a bloody explosion of sound tears through the night. You're in your rooms, I'll say it takes at least a round to get out of bed + grab a weapon and another to get downstairs to where U'lin is (barring special movement options, rogue dashes).

I'll update with a combat map like, 18 hours from now. Bit busy now, apologies :<

Note none of this includes time for donning armor (1 minute for light armour at minimum). Unless you guys are telling me you all sleep in full battle gear.
Thente
player, 265 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 9 May 2019
at 17:25
  • msg #671

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I know Moira hasn't gone crazy... but Thente doesn't =^.^=

He'll be super confused when Moira comes out of the Boathouse and/or this thing turns not into Moira!!
Moira Ruadh
player, 250 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 9 May 2019
at 17:34
  • msg #672

Re: OOC Chat - 001

To be fair, about 90% of the world population would have no idea that there were even things like Doppelgangers or shape-shifting magics outside of stories.

Initiative
Moira Ruadh rolled 9 using 1d20+6


As for sleeping in armor - 5e actually did away with any "you can't properly rest while armored" rules, so any restrictions would be up to DM decision.  Moira is still wearing her armor to bed though, for a few reasons.  Between being a traveler and her involvement at Hillsfar, she's accustomed to sleeping in rough conditions while dressed, packed, and ready to go at a moment's notice.  Secondly, her armor is basic Leather, which I've always interpreted as just being sturdy clothing with leather reinforcements, by and large.

Finally and perhaps most importantly... because the whole Nightstone attack situation was unexpected in the first place, she's short on personal supplies and doesn't actually have any other clothing besides her armor currently.  ^^;  Moira herself isn't particularly bashful, but she wouldn't go sleeping naked around Claire just yet.  ^^;
This message was last edited by the player at 17:43, Thu 09 May 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 162 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 9 May 2019
at 17:38
  • msg #673

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'll have to revise the Alarm behaviour GM suggested. For now I feel as slow as Doderic:

19:37, Today: Doderic Cookingpot rolled 6 using 1d20+2.  Sleepy initiative.
Claire Larkspur
player, 149 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 10 May 2019
at 00:03
  • msg #674

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Initiative:
08:51, Today: Claire Larkspur rolled 10 using 1d20+2.  Initiative.


Moira:
As for sleeping in armor - 5e actually did away with any "you can't properly rest while armored" rules, so any restrictions would be up to DM decision.


Oh, I didn't actually know this! Though I still feel Claire wouldn't be hardcore enough to sleep in chainmail, given that she's not a particularly experienced traveler and that she figured they were safe enough in the inn. She'll probably go downstairs without the armor, in the lighter indoor-use dress she's sleeping in. 1+ minute is a lot of dps...
This message was last edited by the player at 00:05, Fri 10 May 2019.
Thente
player, 266 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 10 May 2019
at 00:11
  • msg #675

Re: OOC Chat - 001

They added them back in with Xanathar's depending on what DM wants to do:
XGE:
Sleeping in Armor
Sleeping in light armor has no adverse effect on the wearer, but sleeping in medium or heavy armor makes it difficult to recover fully during a long rest.

When you finish a long rest during which you slept in medium or heavy armor, you regain only one quarter of your spent Hit Dice (minimum of one die). If you have any levels of exhaustion, the rest doesn’t reduce your exhaustion level.

Moira Ruadh
player, 251 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 10 May 2019
at 00:17
  • msg #676

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ah, good to know.  Thanks Thente.

Though there is a difference between "narrative resting" and "mechanics resting".  Since none of us are recovering any HD, there's no bother in this case.  I actually think we're all wearing light armor except for Claire?

Also, I'm amused at our low Initiative rolls.  Fitting since we were all asleep, and especially so with Claire and Moira waking up at pretty much the same time.  :3
GM
GM, 404 posts
Fri 10 May 2019
at 01:14
  • msg #677

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yea I am aware of the lack of penalties for Heavy armor compared to previous editions. I think its mostly fine, I feel that the don/doff armor part usually interrupts narrative. I may look into house-rules for swimming in heavy armor though, and I will be adding the XGE rulings to the list later over the weekend.

ATM I'm fine with all of you sleeping in armor with weapons at ready, esp. given how things have been. In general, I'll try to avoid the whole "DM shanks the party while they're naked and resting" plot-line - personally felt it puts an unwarranted degree of animosity/paranoia into players.

Updates in like, 12 hours probably. Need time to make a battle-map, but work is work is work. Yeergh.
Moira Ruadh
player, 253 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 10 May 2019
at 01:20
  • msg #678

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I actually saw a pretty interesting video on YouTube a while back where a guy tested swimming in full plate armor.  According to him, so long as he didn't cannonball into the water, he was actually able to float and swim pretty well.  Not easily, by any means, but it's still do-able.  He only immediately sank if he dove in all at once since the weight pulled him down.

Mechanics-wise, I'd say trying to swim in Heavy Armor would be an Athletics check done at Disadvantage, and perhaps require a Strength or Constitution saving throw to avoid taking a rank of Exhaustion from the effort of swimming beyond a number of rounds equal to the relevant stat's modifier.  So if you're rocking a STR or CON 18/+4, you could swim for 4 rounds before it started to get to you.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:23, Fri 10 May 2019.
U'lin
player, 42 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Fri 10 May 2019
at 03:45
  • msg #679

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Id you can DM, please let me know what Ulin did and didn't see/hear, as it shapes his response significantly.

Also distance between Moira, Thente, and Ulin (who is only in his quickdon breastplate/shield - oh well! :) )
GM
GM, 405 posts
Fri 10 May 2019
at 04:17
  • msg #680

Re: OOC Chat - 001

With a Percep of 12, you basically only heard the end bit

Thente:
"Well... go on then. What needs to be said in secret? Is it something about Nimmy, Noin, or U'lin? Why not bring Doderic and Claire? I know we've had our differences, but we coulda talked after dinner you know."


You did not catch much of the earlier conversation, nor did you manage to note the sleep spell or "Moira's" odd eye coloring.

Thente's subsequent thunder spell and screaming is perfectly 100% audible.

EDIT: Missed the second part. They're a good distance away from the window - about 70ft, in the clearing by the same place you guys chopped wood this morning.
This message was last edited by the GM at 09:17, Fri 10 May 2019.
Thente
player, 268 posts
HP: 17/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 10 May 2019
at 23:13
  • msg #681

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Come on U'lin... get in there and help me out or I'm gonna be in real trouble!!
GM
GM, 407 posts
Fri 10 May 2019
at 23:44
  • msg #682

Re: OOC Chat - 001

U'lin can you see the combat map? Each square is 5ft. If you could indicate which square you end up on in your post that would help with distance and such.

Note that the big brown thin rectangle is a door, the small ones are windows, and climbing through a window takes twice the movement.
Thente
player, 269 posts
HP: 17/23 - AC 14(19)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 10 May 2019
at 23:49
  • msg #683

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Nice! back to full health (for now), Thanks!
GM
GM, 408 posts
Fri 10 May 2019
at 23:53
  • msg #684

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Incidentally, I forgot to mention this, but except for U'lin everyone is sort of upstairs.

You will need a round to dash down. Moira can actually dash down and take an action cause rogue Cunning Action I believe.

I still need Doderic's initiative, unless I missed it earlier.
U'lin
player, 44 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Sat 11 May 2019
at 06:10
  • msg #685

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
U'lin can you see the combat map? Each square is 5ft. If you could indicate which square you end up on in your post that would help with distance and such.

Note that the big brown thin rectangle is a door, the small ones are windows, and climbing through a window takes twice the movement.
Thanks.  Outside map, which some DMs default to 10'/sq.  Better to ask :)

Something odd at work connection.  I saw the map, but no coord grid.  Looks fine home.

I had it pictured in my head that Ulin was following the pair, which would put him at the door, not the window.  If it's only double movement cost to traverse the window square, it puts him pretty close to the same spot anyway
GM
GM, 409 posts
Sat 11 May 2019
at 07:27
  • msg #686

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Door is fine, I'll edit it later and retroactively edit.

Where are you going for your own turn? (Final square)
Moira Ruadh
player, 254 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 11 May 2019
at 09:18
  • msg #687

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic rolled a 6 on Initiative earlier.
GM
GM, 410 posts
Sat 11 May 2019
at 09:27
  • msg #688

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ah alright.

Once U'lin takes his turn I'll port all of you guys down for round 2.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 163 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sat 11 May 2019
at 15:06
  • msg #689

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
Doderic rolled a 6 on Initiative earlier.

Yeap. I noticed he was missing but had a filled Friday so I didn't raise it, waiting for the round as he's last.
GM
GM, 411 posts
Sat 11 May 2019
at 15:09
  • msg #690

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I think for most part you guys can post Out of Order, since your inits are all together, I'll try to resolve them in favor of the PCs.

Especially since round 1 is everyone but U'lin running down.
U'lin
player, 45 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Sat 11 May 2019
at 15:29
  • msg #691

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
Ah alright.

Once U'lin takes his turn I'll port all of you guys down for round 2.

I posted my turn yesterday - didn't it take?
Or did you mean for round2?
GM
GM, 412 posts
Sat 11 May 2019
at 15:42
  • msg #692

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Right I meant more like confirmation on your location.

Will post round 2 in the morning. Sorry for the delay.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:42, Sat 11 May 2019.
U'lin
player, 46 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Sat 11 May 2019
at 15:59
  • msg #693

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I updated O5, IIRC.  Anywhere around there is fine.  I'm outside of 30' range, but inside 60'.
Next turn I should be able to close/ish.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 164 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sun 12 May 2019
at 19:12
  • msg #694

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Is it 60ft total required, or another 60ft after dashing in the 1st round?
GM
GM, 414 posts
Sun 12 May 2019
at 23:45
  • msg #695

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The first round was to get to the corridor. This round, you need 60ft total to get downstairs.
Thente
player, 271 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 13 May 2019
at 03:23
  • msg #696

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So Claire/Doderic/Moira are basically not getting involved until round 3 or 4 at the earliest?
GM
GM, 415 posts
Mon 13 May 2019
at 03:27
  • msg #697

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira has Rogue cunning action, so she can actually.

Alternatively, if you just want to act from the 2nd floor, I'll say you can find a window within 30ft or so.
Claire Larkspur
player, 151 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 13 May 2019
at 03:50
  • msg #698

Re: OOC Chat - 001

How high is the window from the ground level?...

Related to that, how painful would leaping out the window onto the 20ft high backyard shelter and making a running leap onto the monster be for my knees? :)
This message was last edited by the player at 03:51, Mon 13 May 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 255 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 13 May 2019
at 04:16
  • msg #699

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Claire
1d6 bludgeoning damage per 10 feet fallen, and landing Prone unless the DM allows for an Athletics/Acrobatics check to mitigate the damage/Prone status.  Falling wouldn't use up any of your movement, but standing up from being Prone automatically uses half your total movement for the turn.

If anyone is planning to fight purely via ranged attacks, staying inside at a window may be the best idea.  You should be able to have at least Half-Cover that way, if not Three-Quarters (+2 to AC and DEX saving throws, or +5 respectively).  If you don't have one, Claire, Moira has a spare shortbow and 16 Goblin arrows on hand.  The two of them could pepper the enemy from the windows.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:23, Mon 13 May 2019.
Claire Larkspur
player, 152 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 13 May 2019
at 06:34
  • msg #700

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Moira
Thanks for the numbers. Claire's got a sling, but I feel like I won't be able to use a lot of my spells/utility, not to mention dps, from range.

I'll probably opt to go down the stairs like a normal person and get into melee for smites. I feel it's also more in character for Claire to go save Thente with the big sword rather than plinking from a window. :P
GM
GM, 416 posts
Mon 13 May 2019
at 07:32
  • msg #701

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Uh guys I'll repeat again that you don't need to post in initiative order since there's only one enemy init, I'm treating you guys as acting as a unified blob - just post anyway and I'll resolve as needed.

Unless you prefer me to post with "mid-round updates" (may do so tonight if no one else posts)

@Claire
Knees will explode if jumping from window with heavy-af sword and fail the Acrobatics check.

Source: have done something similar, exploded knees for 2 weeks.
GM
GM, 417 posts
Mon 13 May 2019
at 11:12
  • msg #702

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Doderic

Noin isn't in his bed.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 166 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 13 May 2019
at 12:34
  • msg #703

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Noted and edited into the post.

P.S. Do not make halfling villains. Nor villains masquerade as halflings!
GM
GM, 418 posts
Mon 13 May 2019
at 13:07
  • msg #704

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic Cookingpot:
Noted and edited into the post.

P.S. Do not make halfling villains. Nor villains masquerade as halflings!


I'm afraid I can't promise that Dave

D:
Thente
player, 272 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 13 May 2019
at 16:51
  • msg #705

Re: OOC Chat - 001

From this range Doderic should be able to tag it with Firebolts or something fun at range. Creature looks like it's 75' from the brown door. Not sure where the windows on 2nd floor are though. Moira should get sneak attack with her bow once U'lin gets into melee with the creature too.

I'm kind of hoping Claire and U'lin to get into melee with me or there is no way I survive this... might not anyway, but definitely not without some support!

If I lose the enlarge on me, I'll probably drop one on Claire when she gets into the melee (Sorry U'lin, but we just met...) to help boost her damage as well

If ever I wanted a crit, it would be when Claire's attacking while enlarged with smite damage available too). I would love to See 4d6+4d8+2d4+Claire's strength get dropped on this guy! :)
Claire Larkspur
player, 154 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 14 May 2019
at 00:34
  • msg #706

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Definitely going to charge into melee. I might go for an ensnare as well to hopefully give us an easier time?
Thente
player, 273 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 14 May 2019
at 00:41
  • msg #707

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Claire Larkspur (msg # 706):

Sweet!
Thente
player, 274 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 14 May 2019
at 15:26
  • msg #708

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Perception check to hear movement or breathing or something to indicate where it might have gone or if it might still be right in front of me?
GM
GM, 420 posts
Tue 14 May 2019
at 15:34
  • msg #709

Re: OOC Chat - 001

With your current passive score, you cannot tell where it went exactly. It's definitely still nearby.

If you want to pinpoint it, you will need to take an action to roll an active Perception check
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:34, Tue 14 May 2019.
Thente
player, 276 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 14 May 2019
at 16:41
  • msg #710

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I have a feeling that my post might have some reaction attacks. If so, I can edit anything.

Also - huge bummer to have a crit negated by a disadvantaged attack that probably still won't hit because it's probably not where I swung :( ah well... them's the breaks.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 167 posts
AC 16; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 14 May 2019
at 18:45
  • msg #711

Re: OOC Chat - 001


20:42, Today: Doderic Cookingpot rolled 12 using 1d20+4.  What's THAT?

I'm guessing not much to go on.
In other news, I'm down with a cold so my posting might be postponed a bit.
Moira Ruadh
player, 258 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 15 May 2019
at 00:42
  • msg #712

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I know what we're fighting because I recognized its traits from a completely different campaign.  And goodness, I'm worried as hell right now.  :3
Claire Larkspur
player, 156 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 15 May 2019
at 01:23
  • msg #713

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
I know what we're fighting because I recognized its traits from a completely different campaign.  And goodness, I'm worried as hell right now.  :3


Ignorance is bliss. :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 259 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 15 May 2019
at 01:23
  • msg #714

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The really fun part is that knowing what this thing is and what it can do doesn't help at all.  Because there's nothing that can be done to avoid it.  >_<
Thente
player, 277 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 15 May 2019
at 01:50
  • msg #715

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 714):

Yeah... I’ve known for a long time. Used it against some of my players a while back. One of my PM’s with our GM has already reflected my fear of this thing. I’m just hoping we can make it flee...
U'lin
player, 48 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Wed 15 May 2019
at 06:11
  • msg #716

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Oh agreed.
U'lin has almost no knowledge about this thing... But I knew they picture even before the description.
Very tough foe, even pre customization
GM
GM, 421 posts
Wed 15 May 2019
at 07:41
  • msg #717

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Here's hoping I can live up to the trust to make this an interesting fight :P

I'm not sure how much I've done to establish this was a really threatening creature beyond people who recognize what it is and have fought it OOC. As the resident newbie, what do you think Claire?

EDIT: Also, U'lin and Doderic can post. Update tonight may be delayed as it is a Wednesday
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:52, Wed 15 May 2019.
Thente
player, 278 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 15 May 2019
at 15:56
  • msg #718

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 717):

Well, you certainly described him creepy as heck, and the picture helps with that!

I don't know that Thente has a good comprehension of how much danger he's in though. He only knows that its some crazy freak thing that is threatening to eat him and the rest of the party and he's going to try and fight it if he can...

but note he did retreat as much as he could when the thing went invisible (assuming I didn't connect with it when I attacked). He's not wanting to be out there fighting it!
Claire Larkspur
player, 157 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 15 May 2019
at 16:17
  • msg #719

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I feel like the only one who doesn't know what this thing is...
GM
GM, 422 posts
Wed 15 May 2019
at 17:36
  • msg #720

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It's you! Claire this is your future self if you continue down this path. The yellow is from jaundice.

Sorry Thente, she does not age well.
Thente
player, 279 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 15 May 2019
at 17:55
  • msg #721

Re: OOC Chat - 001

LOL GM...

Don't worry Claire, it's just us people who've encountered these in D&D for years and years. It's easier to RP terror and confusion when you DON'T know what it is ;)
GM
GM, 424 posts
Thu 16 May 2019
at 16:24
  • msg #722

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Thente

I wanna say you can do it if you make the DC 10 athletics check to jump the 5ft verticle distance to smack it. IMO It's not just reaching it, it's having leverage and stuff on your swing.
Thente
player, 281 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 16 May 2019
at 17:16
  • msg #723

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@GM we might have cross posted. I updated my action to be a grapple attempt on the creature.

Do I still need the athletic's check?

EDIT - I rolled it anyway and have added to the IC thread under my post.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:23, Thu 16 May 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 261 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 16 May 2019
at 19:14
  • msg #724

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I love it when the dice grant thematically appropriate crits.  :3
U'lin
player, 51 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Thu 16 May 2019
at 19:15
  • msg #725

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
I love it when the dice grant thematically appropriate crits.  :3
Absolutely!  Great scene by Moira as a result!
GM
GM, 426 posts
Fri 17 May 2019
at 18:42
  • msg #726

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That was an excellent post! And a very nice scene. So much damage all around.
Thente
player, 283 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 17 May 2019
at 19:36
  • msg #727

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Agreed  Moira! Excellent post and excellent crit/sneak attack! :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 262 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 17 May 2019
at 20:25
  • msg #728

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@DM
Quick question on the Oni's position/size: when Thente grappled it, was it rendered Prone or is it still standing/hovering but immobilized?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:25, Fri 17 May 2019.
GM
GM, 427 posts
Fri 17 May 2019
at 23:24
  • msg #729

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It's been dragged to the ground, not prone but it is immmobilised
Moira Ruadh
player, 263 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 17 May 2019
at 23:26
  • msg #730

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Status-wise, is it just "Grappled" or does it also count as being "Restrained"?  I'm never clear on when certain conditions kick in and others don't.
Thente
player, 284 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 17 May 2019
at 23:43
  • msg #731

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 730):

It should just be "Grappled". To give the "restrained" condition by grappling as a PC you have to have the Grappler feat, which I don't unless the GM wants to start handing out bonus feats...

So, normal attacks against it, it just has a speed of 0. Though it is threatened 6 ways from Sunday so you should still get Sneak Attack dice with a ranged weapon even if you can't reach it.
GM
GM, 428 posts
Sat 18 May 2019
at 00:59
  • msg #732

Re: OOC Chat - 001

What Thente said. The key point is that its speed is 0 and Thente is very much in melee with it.
Thente
player, 285 posts
HP: 18/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sat 18 May 2019
at 03:12
  • msg #733

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 732):

Course now I have another feat to add to my "list of feats that I want to take"... *grumble, grumble*
GM
GM, 429 posts
Mon 20 May 2019
at 01:13
  • msg #734

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Will update tonight to move combat forward. If Moira doens't post, I'll NPC her for the round (sorry Moira!)
Moira Ruadh
player, 264 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 20 May 2019
at 02:23
  • msg #735

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry, I'll get a post up promptly.  It's been slipping my mind all weekend.

I'm going to assume the Oni isn't close enough in vertical space for Moira to still reach him with melee attacks, even being a Large creature.
GM
GM, 430 posts
Mon 20 May 2019
at 02:28
  • msg #736

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 735):

No worries, weekends are like that. Just being more pushy since its a combat post :x

And yea the Oni is at most 10ft high, and the window is 20ft up from where it is.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 171 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 20 May 2019
at 12:33
  • msg #737

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'd like to see/hear the results of AoOs before posting. No point in making people worry if the thing is dead.
GM
GM, 432 posts
Mon 20 May 2019
at 12:43
  • msg #738

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Gimme a few hours :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 267 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 20 May 2019
at 17:26
  • msg #739

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That moment when you realize your new NPC companion's name is an anagram of "'n Oni".
Thente
player, 288 posts
HP: 18/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 20 May 2019
at 18:20
  • msg #740

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 739):

Haha so true. I hadn't made that connection yet, but perfect.

I suspected him all along OOC because of how GM described his "wounds" related to the boulder U'lin found him under.
U'lin
player, 54 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Mon 20 May 2019
at 22:09
  • msg #741

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 739):

Haha so true. I hadn't made that connection yet, but perfect.

I suspected him all along OOC because of how GM described his "wounds" related to the boulder U'lin found him under.
Yes.  And his story was such as to raise flags.
U'lin didn't catch the issues, sadly :)
GM
GM, 435 posts
Tue 21 May 2019
at 01:44
  • msg #742

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Guys I have a confession to make:

I really, really like puns.

*thunder rumbles*

Glad you enjoyed the fight, and the bit of exposition with it. EDIT: It was an adjusted encounter (there actually -is- a lore reason for it, I'm waiting to see if anyone finds it) but still pretty tough. Had the rolls gone a bit differently, there might have been more causalities (Oni missed like 80% of its attacks, even in the rounds when it wasn't uh...'hampered').
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:06, Tue 21 May 2019.
Thente
player, 289 posts
HP: 18/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 21 May 2019
at 04:08
  • msg #743

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 742):

Out of character it seemed like my storm giant blood was having some controlling commanding effect on it, though because i'm not a full storm giant it was only partially effective.
Moira Ruadh
player, 269 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 21 May 2019
at 23:28
  • msg #744

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Just to be clear, I was going to wait until after there was DM confirmation about the Arcana/Identify results before Moira would chat with Doderic, as she doesn't want to distract him while he works.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 174 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 22 May 2019
at 04:00
  • msg #745

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Oh. I waited for you to post as he invited  her to speak.

As most of the folks are off, feel free to catch him when he's done and will share findings in the morning. It's interesting but not urgent.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 176 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 22 May 2019
at 13:41
  • msg #746

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I couldn't resist him being clueless. Also decided we could use a more cheerful tone after all this.
GM
GM, 437 posts
Wed 22 May 2019
at 16:46
  • msg #747

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Wednesday, so i'm taking a break + giving you guys some time to chat things out. I'll update again in 24 hours, tentatively via a time skip to the next day if there are no more conversations :)
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 177 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 23 May 2019
at 12:27
  • msg #748

Re: OOC Chat - 001

U'lin I hope you don't feel left out. I'm looking forward to discussing the runework. And am very happy with both the player and character.

Also, we'll play nice and won't even consider the character is a GM's scheme to put another Oni into the party, but for long term shenanigans ;)
And I'll try my best to keep Doderic from becoming paranoid and scanning everyone and everything with detect magic and other spells...

@GM I'm fine with skipping to the morning.
GM
GM, 438 posts
Thu 23 May 2019
at 15:07
  • msg #749

Re: OOC Chat - 001

What, why would I put -two- Onis in the same loc-

*hastily crosses out notes*

ATM it looks like Thente and Doderic have stuff they can reply to - I'll delay the update just a bit more for this- really enjoying the conversations atm!
U'lin
player, 57 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Thu 23 May 2019
at 15:23
  • msg #750

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic Cookingpot:
U'lin I hope you don't feel left out. I'm looking forward to discussing the runework. And am very happy with both the player and character.
Oh goodness, no.
It takes a little time to make those bridges into a pre-existing group, especially as storied-together as you most excellent folk have established :)

.. and I really didn't want to intrude in your scene w/ Moira :)


Doderic Cookingpot:
Also, we'll play nice and won't even consider the character is a GM's scheme to put another Oni into the party, but for long term shenanigans ;)
...
DM:
What, why would I put -two- Onis in the same loc-
*hastily crosses out notes*
But, you said not to revea-er, yeah.  Whom would consider such a thing?  *nervous laugh*

Doderic Cookingpot:
@GM I'm fine with skipping to the morning.
likewise
Claire Larkspur
player, 166 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 24 May 2019
at 04:47
  • msg #751

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
What, why would I put -two- Onis in the same loc-

*hastily crosses out notes*


Screaming.

Also, skipping ahead is totally fine. Claire will be sleeping in!
GM
GM, 440 posts
Fri 24 May 2019
at 13:07
  • msg #752

Re: OOC Chat - 001

And we're off! Arc 2 will start soon, when the party leaves the inn and arrives at Waterdeep. To be sure, the main thing I got was that Moira wanted to personally inform the temple of Waukeen of the Zhentarim activity in Nightstone. I assume that is the first place the party will be heading to?

At this point, I would like you guys to think about:

-If your PC might have been to Waterdeep before, or known people from/in Waterdeep. If so, do drop me a PM!

-What other activities or pursuits might they be interested in, once arriving at the city? At minimal, most folks would have heard that Waterdeep is one of the largest, richest cities in the Swords Coast. Do with this information what you will :)

No need to commit to or discuss anything yet, just figured it was a good time to prompt folks to consider backstory implications, now that we are out of Nightstone, so to speak.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:08, Fri 24 May 2019.
GM
GM, 441 posts
Fri 24 May 2019
at 15:46
  • msg #753

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yes, you guys get full rest, but at the 'cost' of delaying your awakening to late morning instead of early (I figured it was about 2-3 hours off? To cool off and clean up and do the rituals...etc)
Thente
player, 296 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 24 May 2019
at 16:27
  • msg #754

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 753):

Cool.

I can’t remember, are we doing standard long rest (all hit points healed and 1/2 level in HD back) or the variant (all HD healed, no Hit Points)? I feel like I might have asked before but I can’t find it.
GM
GM, 442 posts
Fri 24 May 2019
at 17:53
  • msg #755

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Standard. But long rests are intended to be rarer while exploring or traveling. I may alter the system as we go to try to keep the feel of an adventure, so to speak. But that's the current system
Claire Larkspur
player, 167 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sun 26 May 2019
at 16:03
  • msg #756

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry for the posting delay! Been busy this weekend. Feel free to assume that Claire's been sleeping in a bit. I'll post first thing tomorrow morning!
U'lin
player, 59 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Mon 27 May 2019
at 15:26
  • msg #757

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So, we already discussed the possibility of a second shammer ID. But what if it wasn't U'lin, but "Nimmy".  ooooo.  Maybe thieving what she could while the real owner and staff are fled? [Rule1: deflect attention from you]

I don't have the touch on just what part twigs "oh no" in my head, but ... seriously hoping that Nimmy hasn't done herself in, or shock/coma or such - leaving the party that doesn't know exactly what happened, that purports to be guesting, oh and shall we explain all that to the completely calm and unconcerned guardsmen at the door? :O
  'Why yes, we would be honoured by an escort to Waterdeep.
    'With new complimentary jewelry as well?  Too kind.
      'And in the extra protection of the VIP wagon, whose metalwork will keep away road troubles?  Oh goodness!
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 181 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 27 May 2019
at 16:42
  • msg #758

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well, you just made my day U'lin :D
Don't forget "Free board and meals, with some of the best-known people of Waterdeep"
Have as many virtual cookies as you want to!
Thente
player, 299 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 27 May 2019
at 16:46
  • msg #759

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hopefully if it comes to that Doderic remembered to prepare Sleep!
U'lin
player, 60 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Mon 27 May 2019
at 19:29
  • msg #760

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic Cookingpot:
Well, you just made my day U'lin :D
Don't forget "Free board and meals, with some of the best-known people of Waterdeep"
Have as many virtual cookies as you want to!
Grin, and thanks for the addition :)
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 184 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 28 May 2019
at 20:12
  • msg #761

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thank you Thente for the wonderful opportunity to fight against injecting player knowledge. Can we have him take "23 and me" when we're in Waterdeep and have the mystery of his origin out of the way ;)
Thente
player, 301 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 28 May 2019
at 21:26
  • msg #762

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Doderic Cookingpot (msg # 761):

Haha! There was a 3PP spell for Pathfinder called Analyze Ancestry... maybe we can hunt down a sage who's converted that spell over to 5e Faerun from 1e Golarion!

In truth I didn't intend my sorcerer origin to be plot point'ish at all! That's the GM's doing :)

IC, I'm not sure if Thente cares to delve into his past, though I suspect that it will get slowly but surely discovered based on what has come up here. It may or may not end up being important depending on how the GM wants to use it.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:27, Tue 28 May 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 275 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 28 May 2019
at 21:31
  • msg #763

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well, there's "Legend Lore" - a 5th level spell that might render some useful information if Thente's heritage is sufficiently legendary.
Thente
player, 303 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 29 May 2019
at 11:47
  • msg #764

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm gonna wait for Doderic to respond before I chime back in!
GM
GM, 448 posts
Wed 29 May 2019
at 13:09
  • msg #765

Re: OOC Chat - 001

U'lin, the nice soldier lady is also asking you for a name :)
U'lin
player, 63 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Wed 29 May 2019
at 14:53
  • msg #766

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I thought I posted my name in my post where I opened the door?
I'll go back and check, sorry
GM
GM, 449 posts
Wed 29 May 2019
at 15:10
  • msg #767

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It was more the name and occupation - you gave your name but then added a bunch of other information there, and she was asking you to start from the top (like a cop would when talking to a potential witness)

Sorry for the confusion
U'lin
player, 65 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Wed 29 May 2019
at 17:35
  • msg #768

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well familiar with the police officer route :)

I simply didn't want you, as DM, to be waiting on me, as player :)
GM
GM, 450 posts
Thu 30 May 2019
at 14:28
  • msg #769

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Really tired, so I'll skip tonights posting and update later, sorry.

@Doderic - Thente's actions actually will bust down the door, and you won't have time to run down in the meanwhile. Could I trouble you to retract your post? At least until I respond to Thente. Sorry.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:28, Thu 30 May 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 187 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 30 May 2019
at 15:26
  • msg #770

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Serves me right for wanting to move things forward. #NeverAgain :p

Will do shortly
GM
GM, 451 posts
Fri 31 May 2019
at 00:34
  • msg #771

Re: OOC Chat - 001

D:

That wasn't my intention. Please don't slow your future postings rate!
GM
GM, 453 posts
Fri 31 May 2019
at 06:23
  • msg #772

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So the last two posts by Thente (#230 and #225) are actually a good case of what I mean by the current restrictions on Guidance, and I'm going to outline my reasoning here. Feel free to chime in with your opinions on it as well;

-> Athletics to bust down the door - you choose when to initiate and casting guidance isn't going to cause any reaction from the door, so go ahead and say you cast and use it

-> Persuasion to convince a rather freaked-out innkeeper in the spur of the moment. Sure, you can cast guidance, but its pretty obvious you're casting a spell, and that in itself would cause a reaction.

It takes 6 seconds for a round to complete - say you spend half of that on the action. Guidance has both verbal and somatic components - you are essentially blabbering spell-words for 3 seconds and wave your hands around, -then- you speak? How's that going to look to someone who is already suspicious and/or not in their right mental state? (Note that subtle spell can and will work with this, though the brief moment of silence will also be noticed, it is a lot less weird)

-> Insight to see if someone is lying - unless you precast it before the conversation itself, you don't get to stop the person, cast guidance, asking them to repeat the statement and then roll the insight check. Basically, reactive skill checks won't get guidance either.

Normally at the table I'll require players to ask if they can use guidance for a particular check before rolling so I don't need to explain every time, but since this is pbp and you guys are a long-term group, I rather outline the reasoning and trust you guys to self-regulate.

Thoughts?

tl;dr - Thente no guidance bonus on that check (not that you needed it) but something to KIV for future.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:24, Fri 31 May 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 278 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 31 May 2019
at 06:37
  • msg #773

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That's more or less how I always play Guidance in other games as well.  It's taken as being a gimmie in situations where there is no immediacy required before taking an action, or where nobody would raise an eyebrow over the casting that could interfere with its intended purpose.

A point I do contend with is the idea of it being "hand waving and word blabbing".  Magic doesn't have any specific assigned motions or phrases to it, so it could be presented as anything that befits the caster.  One person casting Guidance might say a quick prayer and make a reverent gesture to their deity, while another may throw bones in a shamanistic reading, where yet a third might pause in meditative humming, or any other form of fluff that suits the player.  So it may not necessarily be clear to anyone non-Proficient in Arcana/familiar with the spell's use that magic is being cast.  At least, so much as it would be apparent that whoever is casting it has a habit of performing a little ritual before doing certain things, which could potentially be construed as a personal quirk.
Thente
player, 306 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 31 May 2019
at 12:47
  • msg #774

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 772):

I edited my post to define the deity and such Thente's calling out to ICly (see below for why I think it still works here), and I can be done with Quicken if that'd make it's use more palatable/less provocative because it's so fast (?).

The rules section you posted say
quote:
3 - Guidance is an action and requires a spell to be cast, usually a prayer, where one beseeches a deity to help with their next challenge. If you are unable to perform any of these prior to making a particular check, you cannot get guidance on that check. Other people may also observe you casting a spell.


I guess I know that I was being observed, but didn't think about NPC reaction to the spellcasting per se. It makes sense for it to be awkward or provocative in a social situation. Unless a 2nd party is doing it with Subtle spell I guess. I.e. if Thente had subtle spell (haha) and Moira were questioning someone we'd captured after a fight, I could subtly cast guidance for Insight because I know that I'm looking for lies in response to Moira's questions or also subtly cast it and then touch Moira's shoulder or something not suspicious for her Persuasion/Intimidate check that I know she's making, just not when shes making it. But it shouldn't probably work for a spontaneous conversation where the caster is the primary speaker/listener and doesn't have Subtle spell. in most situations.

Guidance is limited in that it's a Touch & Concentration spell. So if the recipient wouldn't be within Touch range it doesn't work. As a combat spell it doesn't usually make sense (there are better things to use your concentration on generally).

Generally at my table I won't allow Guidance's use for long term checks (survival for navigation done over hours), checks where the caster of Guidance doesn't know someone is doing something, so something spontaneous like a Knowledge skill or "there's an earthquake, make an Acrobatics check". I.e. another PC can't assume guidance on their skill check if they haven't specifically asked for it or the caster hasn't already volunteered it. Or where a caster can't reasonably reach the intended recipient.

All that said... despite it being a social situation, and observed spellcasting... I think if we're assuming that Guidance is a prayer like thing regardless of the caster, it wouldn't be completely out of place in this situation!

I could see Thente's casting being something like this (and can edit my post to reflect the sentiment if not the actual words here: "Oh s**t!! Corellon hear me and guide my words..." with a supplicating hand gesture. Or if I use Quicken spell, "...Corellon guide me..."

Since it is PBP and so I/we don't create a delay to get sign off on it, can we/I include the guidance roll in our die roller, and OOC section of a post if we think it reasonable to have done, then when you go to adjudicate you can ignore the extra bonus from guidance if you disagree? Just like I assumed that Athletics and Persuasion were the right skills and didn't wait for you to ask for one, I think common sense can guide our assumption of whether we're including it and then if you disagree you can ignore it without discussion even if you don't want to talk about it! If our native skill check failed without guidance, just say we failed the check when describing the results if you want? Or you could state you're ignoring it because "XYZ" reason and we'll abide by that? I think this situation with Nimmy is an exceptional social skill situation where I think it's still appropriate though.


As to the personalized component question...

I've always been conflicted/confused on how to handle sorcerers and spellcasting. Since it's innate and it comes from forcing your will on the world (Charisma) to get it to what you want, it's going to look totally different for a sorcerer to achieve the same effect as someone else.

Keith Baker (creator of Eberron) had some good insights on this in his blog here: http://keith-baker.com/sorcerers-2/

Since guidance is specifically coming from the Magic Initiate feat as opposed to innate spellcasting, I might have learned to cast it in a "normalized" way, how all the elven druids of the Ardeep would cast it.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:00, Fri 31 May 2019.
GM
GM, 454 posts
Fri 31 May 2019
at 13:23
  • msg #775

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I think for me, it basically comes down to:

> if you add fluff to your casting in a manner that would disguise it, I would allow it (within reason of course), though suspicious and/or magic-familiar NPCs may still notice

> if you just go "I CAST GUIDANCE" or auto-assume it, I will go with the 'default' usage, which is a MYSTIC CRY OF DESIRE that sounds SUSPICIOUSLY LIKE TWO DUCKS INHARMONIOUSLY QUACKING.

#canon

More seriously, yea just work it into your post and if it makes sense to me I'll adjudicate as needed. In this case, I'm fine with Thente spitting out a prayer/curse/both and then talking to Nimmy without raising panic.

Thanks for the input! (if anyone else wants to add their two cents, please do!)
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:41, Sat 01 June 2019.
Thente
player, 307 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 31 May 2019
at 14:26
  • msg #776

Re: OOC Chat - 001

LOL

Now I've got to figure out which spell I cast has a verbal component that sounds like:
quote:
a MYSTIC CRY OF DESIRE that sounds SUSPICIOUS LIKE TWO DUCKS INHARMONIOUSLY QUACKING.

U'lin
player, 67 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Fri 31 May 2019
at 21:51
  • msg #777

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
Now I've got to figure out which spell I cast has a verbal component that sounds like:
quote:
a MYSTIC CRY OF DESIRE that sounds SUSPICIOUS LIKE TWO DUCKS INHARMONIOUSLY QUACKING.
Dissonant Quacking, the new bardic druid hybrid spell?
GM
GM, 456 posts
Sat 1 Jun 2019
at 02:42
  • msg #778

Re: OOC Chat - 001

#edit: my previous post was filled with typos due to posting from mobile, apologies.

And Thente you sound like that all the time to Moira so I don't se- probably Thunderwave.
Moira Ruadh
player, 280 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 1 Jun 2019
at 02:49
  • msg #779

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I daresay I'm being maligned.
GM
GM, 458 posts
Sat 1 Jun 2019
at 03:03
  • msg #780

Re: OOC Chat - 001

What, not even a -little- like two ducks quacking?
Thente
player, 309 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sat 1 Jun 2019
at 04:00
  • msg #781

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
I daresay I'm being maligned.

LOL

Disharmonic duck thunderwaves coming right up!
GM
GM, 459 posts
Mon 3 Jun 2019
at 12:24
  • msg #782

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hmm, Im thinking I'll let the current dialogue threads resolve themselves (will get back to you U'lin!) before moving the scene. Really liking the character development here :>

Gonna hold off a little and poke things along in say, 12 hours or so.
GM
GM, 461 posts
Tue 4 Jun 2019
at 11:02
  • msg #783

Re: OOC Chat - 001

As a heads up, I'm looking to move to the Waterdeep part of this journey soon. I'll say until Thursday for you guys to sort things out with the NPCs and each other?

Could I also get a recap of what the group wants to do from each of you guys when you arrive? Just to keep the party goals fresh when the next arc starts:)
U'lin
player, 69 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Tue 4 Jun 2019
at 14:29
  • msg #784

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Depending on whether or not the group keeps U'lin along :)

Ulin wants to track down information about his giant-crafting metal/runes, so visits to the smiths recommended to him, possibly to arcane enchanters/loremasters after speaking with those doing the real work :p

A visit to the main temple of Gond in Waterdeep would also seem to make sense,
in warning about the dangers on the roads, as might imperil other traveling priests,
relaying the crafting or designs he gathered from the north,
and seeking out information about the giant crafting there.

If there are any of his kin known to be in town, he will also seek them out to relay about the Oni/runes/and the storm giant king death (allegedly)

Priority would be whichever is closest/chains together nicely.

*Also, is Waterdeep purported to him as being firbolg-friendly, or is he thinking he might need to be cloaked most of the time, and save his racial hiding for clutch/discussion times?
This message was last edited by the player at 14:34, Tue 04 June 2019.
Thente
player, 313 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 4 Jun 2019
at 16:15
  • msg #785

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 783):

Thente doesn't have a goal in Waterdeep other than to see the big city first hand. Try not to be overwhelmed by all the people and its size?

He'll accompany Claire to try and get at the money her dad had stored there. He'll try to keep his coin purse out of the hands of other people as well as all of Veradda's stuff.
GM
GM, 462 posts
Tue 4 Jun 2019
at 16:31
  • msg #786

Re: OOC Chat - 001

U'lin:
Depending on whether or not the group keeps U'lin along :)

Ulin wants to track down information about his giant-crafting metal/runes, so visits to the smiths recommended to him, possibly to arcane enchanters/loremasters after speaking with those doing the real work :p

A visit to the main temple of Gond in Waterdeep would also seem to make sense,
in warning about the dangers on the roads, as might imperil other traveling priests,
relaying the crafting or designs he gathered from the north,
and seeking out information about the giant crafting there.

If there are any of his kin known to be in town, he will also seek them out to relay about the Oni/runes/and the storm giant king death (allegedly)

Priority would be whichever is closest/chains together nicely.

*Also, is Waterdeep purported to him as being firbolg-friendly, or is he thinking he might need to be cloaked most of the time, and save his racial hiding for clutch/discussion times?


U'lin has heard that Waterdeep has a reputation for being exceedingly open minded about races, rumours have it they are home to orcs, goblins, ogres, drow...and more exotic races from all over Faerun.

Though for some reason, lawyers are banned from the city.

I'll leave the rest for your convo with the Guardsman :)
U'lin
player, 71 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Tue 4 Jun 2019
at 20:42
  • msg #787

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
U'lin:
*Also, is Waterdeep purported to him as being firbolg-friendly, or is he thinking he might need to be cloaked most of the time, and save his racial hiding for clutch/discussion times?
U'lin has heard that Waterdeep has a reputation for being exceedingly open minded about races, rumours have it they are home to orcs, goblins, ogres, drow...and more exotic races from all over Faerun.

Though for some reason, lawyers are banned from the city.
Ouch.  You cut deep.  :p
Thente
player, 314 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 4 Jun 2019
at 22:16
  • msg #788

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to U'lin (msg # 787):

No really... they are banned in Waterdeep

https://forgottenrealms.fandom...i/Lawyers_(Waterdeep)
U'lin
player, 72 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Tue 4 Jun 2019
at 23:42
  • msg #789

Re: OOC Chat - 001

AH, but see, then upon review of the said proffered histories, one feels compelled to note to the tribunal that by the court's own record, barrister and solicitors are not banned from Waterdeep.  The court's previous binding precedent was established only as a bar against practicing law; lawyers, as they were, and remain, still are permitted the special provisions to act as professional witnesses and legal counselors, of course.

Not that U'lin is a legal counsel, of course.

...
Moira Ruadh
player, 284 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 4 Jun 2019
at 23:59
  • msg #790

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Following the letter versus the spirit.  Spoken like a true lawyer.  :3
U'lin
player, 73 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Wed 5 Jun 2019
at 01:32
  • msg #791

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
Following the letter versus the spirit.  Spoken like a true lawyer.  :3

*bow*
GM
GM, 463 posts
Thu 6 Jun 2019
at 09:57
  • msg #792

Re: OOC Chat - 001

DM is sick again.

I'll look to wrap things up soon, so let's see if we can finish off the conversations between Moira/Claire, Doderic's/Thente and U'lin/Guard :x
Thente
player, 316 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 6 Jun 2019
at 19:02
  • msg #793

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 792):

Feel better!

I think Doderic/Thente converstaion is resolved.
Claire Larkspur
player, 177 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 7 Jun 2019
at 05:47
  • msg #794

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira/Claire seems to be done too!
GM
GM, 465 posts
Fri 7 Jun 2019
at 06:36
  • msg #795

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Cool!

I'll see how the others respond in a bit, then scene skip ahead sometime in the next 24 hours. If you have further questions for the guards about waterdeep, I'll do it "montage style" on the road - IC post with whatever questions you have, and I'll give a block of responses from the guards. Feel free to cram in more than one question - they're pretty chatty after Moira's buttered them up (literally) with food.

Once the weekend passes, we'll be off into Arc 2 :D
Moira Ruadh
player, 286 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 7 Jun 2019
at 06:56
  • msg #796

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The only thing Moira wants to get done NPC-wise is making sure Nimmy is going to get to Waterdeep safely, be it with the guards or with their party, and that she has all those packed road rations.  Moira made a week's worth for Nimmy to have on hand, all bundled up tidy into on-the-go lunch packs.

With the guards, Moira will want to chat them up a bit and get some basic information on their superior officers; just simple, common-knowledge stuff about who they could talk to, who's important, etc.  She's going to primarily rely on any connections her temple has with the Waterdeep authorities to find a trustworthy line of communication just in case there are any Zhentarim ears in the guard ranks, but it never hurts to scout information ahead of time.

@The Party
Moira went ahead and used some really good ingredients to cook the party's meal.  As such, everyone gets 5 Temporary HP that last until they're used up or until the next Long Rest (ie, dinner time), whichever comes first.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:57, Fri 07 June 2019.
U'lin
player, 74 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Fri 7 Jun 2019
at 15:27
  • msg #797

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Oh very nice.  *clap*
Thente
player, 317 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 7 Jun 2019
at 17:28
  • msg #798

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
@The Party
Moira went ahead and used some really good ingredients to cook the party's meal.  As such, everyone gets 5 Temporary HP that last until they're used up or until the next Long Rest (ie, dinner time), whichever comes first.

Cool! We should get Moira a proper kitchen to cook in more often! :)
GM
GM, 469 posts
Tue 11 Jun 2019
at 05:47
  • msg #799

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Apologies for the delay, I'm still sick for some reason, and its making me basically want to do nothing but nap after work.

Hopefully this clears soon. Expect an update within the next day ><
U'lin
player, 76 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Tue 11 Jun 2019
at 05:50
  • msg #800

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I was there last week.  Rest.
Thente
player, 319 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 11 Jun 2019
at 06:28
  • msg #801

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 799):

I got slammed at work today and I'm sitting her passing out on my couch so I'm right there with you GM! I'll get a post up tomorrow and apologies to the crew!!
Moira Ruadh
player, 289 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 12 Jun 2019
at 18:12
  • msg #802

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Claire, Doderic?  Do you want to chip in with the antics at the gate before Moira interjects?  :3
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 193 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 12 Jun 2019
at 18:36
  • msg #803

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Just sitting down to post :)
Claire Larkspur
player, 180 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 12 Jun 2019
at 23:23
  • msg #804

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Once I get a moment!
Moira Ruadh
player, 291 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 13 Jun 2019
at 22:05
  • msg #805

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Just a heads-up for everyone; I'm entertaining a house guest for the next week or so, which will limit my posting ability.  I'll try and be as active as I can, but I'm going to be a bit slow most days.  Take it as Moira hanging back and letting the others really absorb the city atmosphere~.
Thente
player, 324 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 14 Jun 2019
at 15:10
  • msg #806

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 799):

Hi GM! Hope you're feeling better!
GM
GM, 472 posts
Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 03:28
  • msg #807

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I am! Thanks. Was expecting some sort of response from Doderic so I was holding off last night. Updating now :)
GM
GM, 475 posts
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 16:05
  • msg #808

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hey folks, slow week for everyone I take?

Do chime in when you can (and ask any questions here OOC, I'll do my best to actual quick.) Feeling a lot better now that the flu has passed :)
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 195 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 18:43
  • msg #809

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Heya. Had a flurry of a weekend, and I was certain I had everything covered game-wise. Will try to post soon, but might postpone it for tomorrow if my brain refuses to cooperate.
U'lin
player, 79 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 19:11
  • msg #810

Re: OOC Chat - 001

A little less so.

Shipped out (with many tears) a close family member that has been staying with us for months.
We spent hours away from home also dealing with medical issues.
Not to be outdone, we also spent the weekend in children's hospital (well, wife spent in two before I arrived) for our 18month old, who had wicked allergic reactions to mosquito bites, and had her face swollen up unrecognizeably, and couldn't open her eye at all one day.
All while keeping tabs on our "grandpa" neighbour who fell from a tree trying to prune it after a freak snowstorm in middle of summer... the tree limb is off, at expense of dislocated shoulder, arm broken upper and lower, multiple broken ribs on both sides, cracked pelvis on both sides... sheesh.

~
Thankfully the plucky little one is nearly recovered, and maintained her spirits even when she couldn't see.
The father-in-law is at his house, dealing with the issues that he shelved while away with us.
And "grandpa" is home after surgery, starting his healing.

Did I mention that this was all coming to a head as I was away at court, trying to save an old "good Samaritan" farmer from an angry druggie's "revenge charging" when all this started?  Oi.

~
There are weeks... and there are weeks.
Thente
player, 326 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 22:40
  • msg #811

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 808):

Sorry, weekends are really hit or miss for me on here. My wife and two young ladies demand (and deserve) most of my attention and time on the weekends... doesn't help when I fall asleep on the couch at like 9:30 friday night and 10 saturday!
GM
GM, 477 posts
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 13:31
  • msg #812

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No worries, I understand some weeks are heavier than the others. I've pushed things forward a little, in a sense 'delaying' the decision on what to do/go/see otw to the temple.

Though I'm not sure you guys would agree with my approach :P
Thente
player, 327 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 16:09
  • msg #813

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ugh, this is going to get messy... :)

What where the prohibitions on magic in the city again?? OOC I just want to make sure I know so that when I break them IC I know what I'm getting into ;) :P
GM
GM, 478 posts
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 16:12
  • msg #814

Re: OOC Chat - 001

It basically comes down to: any crime down with magic is treated an order of magnitude more severally than if it was done without.

So if a theft would have you punished by lose a finger. Theft with magic would be the loss of a hand...etc.

I'll look at uploading more detailed Waterdeep lore tomorrow.
Thente
player, 328 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 16:31
  • msg #815

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Anyone here a physicist? My last class in physics was back in my 3rd year of secondary school...

It's 80' away, on a 30 degree slope, & weighs 400 lbs. I have no idea how much stopping force is required to actually stop something like that at a point 80', but what if it's closer?

My thought... Move, Dash, bonus action Enlarge to try and catch the cart after only 20' of acceleration, but I have no idea if that's feasible or if I'm just goin to get run over even after that shorter acceleration.

Thente when enlarged goes from 6'2", 185 lbs. to 12'4" and 1,480 lbs. So my wingspan and mass, might be enough to hold the cart in place... maybe? again I don't know.

Do you want us to hash this out OOC or just react IC? Cuz much to my and Moira's chagrin, I think that is Thente's gut reaction and what he'd go for unless stopped in some way.
U'lin
player, 80 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 17:31
  • msg #816

Re: OOC Chat - 001

a 30degree slope with minimal distance? No issues.

I've stopped a couple vehicles rolling down sloped roads, and I do not weigh 1400 lbs.

... There are some arguments that I should not step in front of moving vehicles :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 293 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 18:49
  • msg #817

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Depending on how things go, I was thinking of having Moira turn the cart sideways into the dung wagon's path to let it stop via collision.  She can dive away from the wreck just fine and then charge the city for destruction of Coster property.  :3. Albeit her primary concern is making sure the dung wagon doesn't run over any passersby.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 196 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 19:29
  • msg #818

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente, you should be fine if we're going with real-world physics. Now whether that translates into the 5ed just as well... Although 30 degree sounds a bit too steep for a road.

I considered going for the chime of opening to see if it can set a wheel loose, but that probably isn't a good idea as the cart will be thrown unpredictably.

That's what we get for not posting sooner :D
Thente
player, 329 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 19:59
  • msg #819

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 817):

My only problem with the cart idea is that it'd potentially smash Veradda's body either up completely or out of its box and cover it with dung... yuck. Not it on clean-up duty for that!

Ok, I'll be giving the enlarged option a try then and see what's what! I've probably smelled worse at some point.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 197 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 20:15
  • msg #820

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I almost posted. Doderic will try to cast mage armor on Thente before he rushes of. Do i need to beat initiative for that?
GM
GM, 479 posts
Tue 18 Jun 2019
at 02:47
  • msg #821

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The physics is uh, not what I expected when I mentioned distance and angle. Oops.

No need for initiative. Just assume it works out in order.

May have to skip an update tonight (will instead compensate with a post tomorrow, Wednesday), but that should give more time for the others to chip in :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 294 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 18 Jun 2019
at 06:17
  • msg #822

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I suppose it's more narrative intent than actual numbers that matters here.  I plugged the stats into a velocity calculator and it said the dung wagon would be trundling along at a leisurely 12 mph or so - easily avoided and stopped, regardless.  But if the narration is intended to be an out-of-control buggy careening wildly down the avenue, then that's what's more important.
GM
GM, 481 posts
Tue 18 Jun 2019
at 11:56
  • msg #823

Re: OOC Chat - 001

THE CART NOW WEIGHS 5000 POUNDS AND IS ON A 600FT 120 DEGREE SLOPE
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 199 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Tue 18 Jun 2019
at 13:38
  • msg #824

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So it's going away from us :3
Thank you ;)
GM
GM, 482 posts
Tue 18 Jun 2019
at 14:21
  • msg #825

Re: OOC Chat - 001

WRONG ITS ABOUT TO GO IN A TRAJECTORY

....INTO SPAAAACE*

*dm may or may not be really tired and thus not entirely coherent.
U'lin
player, 81 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Tue 18 Jun 2019
at 14:56
  • msg #826

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
WRONG ITS ABOUT TO GO IN A TRAJECTORY

....INTO SPAAAACE*

*dm may or may not be really tired and thus not entirely coherent.

*holding sides, laughing*
Thente
player, 331 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 18 Jun 2019
at 17:28
  • msg #827

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to U'lin (msg # 826):

same!
Thente
player, 334 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 14:56
  • msg #828

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Is everything ok on your end GM IRL?

Are we all waiting at cross-purposes for someone else to post?
GM
GM, 485 posts
Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 15:23
  • msg #829

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I was just getting around to updating!

Was wondering if U'lin or Moira wanted to chime in, but I recalled they were busy this week. Just pushing things forward to the temple now.

EDIT: I'm going to just skip to the front gates, rather than drag this out any longer. It seems no one really wants to do anything at this hour (as in, in character wise).

EDIT2: I've updated the original post with a skip ahead to the temple, since that seems to be the task thats 'blocking' everyone else from wanting to go explore.

As a sort of heads-up, so I can start planning a little- could each of you guys indicate where you might want to go after the temple? Far as I know:

Doderic - visit the Jade Pavilion to meet with the owner of the other Sending Stone
U'lin - attend the Parade of Wonders, visit the Temple of Gond
Moira - ? (Waukeen temple, shopping at the Merchant Ward?)
Claire - Check with the bank on her father's will
Thente - ?
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:40, Fri 21 June 2019.
U'lin
player, 84 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 16:06
  • msg #830

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I think we crossposted.
My posted was stretched out by a "poop" accident... ah parenthood.

It was setup for U'lin mending the harness.


~
Temple, parade, smiths re metal crafting, and enchanter/sage recommended by temple or smiths
GM
GM, 487 posts
Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 16:08
  • msg #831

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No worries, I've reordered the posts to include a response to yours.

Is the bit after the ~ what U'lins looking to do after the Nightstone incident has been resolved?
Thente
player, 335 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 16:12
  • msg #832

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ok! Glad nothing is wrong :)

Doderic thought he could do the Pavilion the next day if I remember correctly as he didn't want to go alone?

It was night when we arrived or at least dusk. I would think resting and doing banking and such the next day should probably be the plan generally.

For a general game plan I'd think morning, then:
  1. Morning: Individual tasks:
    • Claire going to the bank
    • U'lin visiting things
    • Moira shopping + more discussions with the Waukeenar(sp?)
  2. Midday: meet with Sgt. Cox again in the South Ward
  3. Evening: as a whole group go to the Pavilion?

What do people think about that?
U'lin
player, 85 posts
Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 16:13
  • [deleted]
  • msg #833

Re: OOC Chat - 001

This message was deleted by the player at 16:20, Fri 21 June 2019.
U'lin
player, 86 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 16:20
  • msg #834

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
No worries, I've reordered the posts to include a response to yours.
Tyk!


GM:
Is the bit after the ~ what U'lins looking to do after the Nightstone incident has been resolved?
Indeed, please.  They are none critical, but interest to him.
GM
GM, 488 posts
Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 16:24
  • msg #835

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sounds good. The nice thing about a pbp is that I can split the party up with multiple threads as needed. I'll set those up later...but first! Do post on how your character intends to approach the temple (there's a few acolytes outside doing door duty, its not that crowded does have a surprisingly number of visitors despite the hour)

I'll look at updating again tomorrow in ~24 hours, and hopefully Moira will be freed up after the weekend to post regularly again :)
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 201 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 18:11
  • msg #836

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic will join Moira or U'lin during the day (if either of them will have him), and greatly appreciate any company in the evening.
Moira Ruadh
player, 295 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 20:21
  • msg #837

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Finally free from my social obligations and now I'm in the clear to resume posting at will again~.  For the day's plans, those all look good to me.  Odds are the temple of Waukeen and the bank are very close to one another - if not occupying the same property - so it's likely Claire can stick with Moira and potentially Doderic if he comes along as well.
Thente
player, 336 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 20:34
  • msg #838

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Glad to have you back to full time Moira!

Thente’ll be with Claire as well for the Bank thing at the very least.

My point was more it’s night time so I don’ know what things are open at this point to do, etc. If we can do bank while we’re here at the temple great!
U'lin
player, 87 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Sat 22 Jun 2019
at 00:49
  • msg #839

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yes, I was thinking it was unlikely much was open late at night save taverns, possibly smiths working late.. but then they'd be trying to finish what was keeping them late, not wanting to chat :)


U'lin would likely stick with the party (to keep DM sanity, and threads moving together), but I certainly don't have a problem with ducking off with Dodi to check out the Gondish holy spots/recommended smithwork.
GM
GM, 489 posts
Sat 22 Jun 2019
at 04:47
  • msg #840

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Glad to have you back!

I'll look at updating in another 12, if anyone wants to initiate anything at the temple, do post :)
U'lin
player, 88 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Sat 22 Jun 2019
at 04:58
  • msg #841

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Has anyone explained to Ulin why we're going to this temple, btw?
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 202 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sat 22 Jun 2019
at 08:28
  • msg #842

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Id like to post IC, but my weekend is packed, so Doderic moves along and doesn't embarrass Moira (too much).
GM
GM, 491 posts
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 13:21
  • msg #843

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The poor door greeter continues to stare balefully at the people on the cart as they silently stare back.

Huh, tough crowd.


Gonna assume folks are swamped (I know I was today). Delaying my update to tomorrow!
Thente
player, 338 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 16:37
  • msg #844

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry, I figured it was Moira's lead to take at the gates to her temple with the door greeter and all!
Thente
player, 340 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 16:45
  • msg #845

Re: OOC Chat - 001

U'lin:
Has anyone explained to Ulin why we're going to this temple, btw?


Err, I don't remember someone doing that, and Thente probably wouldn't have since it's kind of secret? We don't what the Zhent's to know that we know that... that is to say that we're trying to undermine them!

Nothing against U'lin he's proven very trusty, but we just met him. He could be a secret Firbolg Zhent agent or something :P

At least that's Thente's view. Someone else may have told him on our journey

If we'd have arrived during the daylight it wouldn't have been an issue as we could have split up to our "day" tasks so U'lin wouldn't have had to come to the temple, but *shrug* we went to slow for that ;)
Moira Ruadh
player, 297 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 17:21
  • msg #846

Re: OOC Chat - 001

They could have at least told U'lin that they intended to go to the temple for personal matters while traveling earlier, as Moira is an obvious worshiper.  It may help that the deities Waukeen and Gond are friendly with one another, thus so are their churches.
U'lin
player, 90 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 17:42
  • msg #847

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That gives me some in character hook, thanks
Thente
player, 342 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 26 Jun 2019
at 00:12
  • msg #848

Re: OOC Chat - 001

OOF, sorry to hear about that Claire!! Prayers are with you and your friend!
Claire Larkspur
player, 186 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 06:17
  • msg #849

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thanks! Some OOC direction for Claire now: I think it's quite late and she'll be eager to get some rest, so spending the night at the temple works for her!
Moira Ruadh
player, 300 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 06:52
  • msg #850

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Seems easier than going out searching for an inn, that's for sure.  DM - would Moira be able to warrant any sort of discount for the party since she's a member of the faith?  It's like one of those bulk grocery stores, right?  :3

Before we settle down for the night, however, we should check in with the guard since Sergeant Cox is expecting us.  And they owe us a reward for dealing with the Oni.  If it's narratively suitable for everyone, Moira can either handle that herself (since she knows her way around the city) or escort any other members of the party who want to come along as well.
GM
GM, 494 posts
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 08:53
  • msg #851

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Members of the faith don't get a discount.

Pilgrims however, may reserve quarters set aside for them so they may rest and contemplate Waukeens wisdom at a reasonably low rate of 20% less than the usual cost of traders staying at the temple.

...you guys are pilgrims, right?
Thente
player, 343 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 15:41
  • msg #852

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente has long desired to find a holy place of worship where he can dedicate some time to deep meditation (sleep) on Waukeen's wisdom :)
U'lin
player, 92 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 21:48
  • msg #853

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
Members of the faith don't get a discount.
...you guys are pilgrims, right?
U'lin would not agree about calling himself a pilgrim to Waukeen.
It's a faith thing. :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 302 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 21:54
  • msg #854

Re: OOC Chat - 001

But he is a pilgrim of Gond, and the two faiths are friendly to one another, so that might count.  :3
Thente
player, 344 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 22:20
  • msg #855

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 854):

Moira - you're wanting to go visit Sgt. Cox before we bunk down for the night, is that right? Might as well keep the group together. I had forgotten about a reward for the Oni...
Moira Ruadh
player, 303 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 22:31
  • msg #856

Re: OOC Chat - 001

If we just wanted to handwave it along, yeah.  I don't want to drag people around on things they're not interested in doing if we're going to be dealing with a lot of different events around town, after all.  It's one thing if anyone in the party wants to speak with the officers or if the DM has plot-relevant situations that would require the party's presence.  But if it's just a case of someone picking up a paycheck, there's no need to have the whole group tagging along when it could be resolved more easily with just one or two.
Thente
player, 345 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 22:46
  • msg #857

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 856):

Yeah I agree from a PBP efficiency standpoint.

I'm more thinking that if Moira's going to be wandering around Waterdeep us "rubes" might want to see more of the city?

Maybe Thente's just being paranoid and wanting the group to stick together since the last time he went off by himself he was almost eaten by an Oni...

Hehe, now that I think about it, he'd only go with Moira if other people also came along... you know, just in case ;)
GM
GM, 495 posts
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 00:50
  • msg #858

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So for the night activities (cough) including visiting Cox will be largely hand waved. Once you lot have decided on where to stay, there's enough time to wander around and do 1 activity of your choice.

Would like to know who:
-is going to visit Cox
-wants to derp around Waterdeeps nightlife (perhaps looking/doing something)
-seek out other attractions at this hour?

Just post here what each of you might do, and I'll wrap up the night.
U'lin
player, 93 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 02:39
  • msg #859

Re: OOC Chat - 001

1) Whom is Cox?
2) U'lin will follow the group consensus on seeing the city.  He's ... well, less enamoured about bar scene, and would probably be distracted away if he saw smithing in action, but would otherwise stay with the group
GM
GM, 496 posts
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 02:45
  • msg #860

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sergeant Cox, she's the woman who helped Nimmy at the bar and requested you reported to the Watch later for your testimonials on the Oni attack.
Thente
player, 346 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 04:51
  • msg #861

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to GM (msg # 860):

If we need to provide testimonials shouldn't we all go see Cox?
GM
GM, 497 posts
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 09:49
  • msg #862

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That is entirely up to you.
U'lin
player, 94 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 14:52
  • msg #863

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
Sergeant Cox, she's the woman who helped Nimmy at the bar and requested you reported to the Watch later for your testimonials on the Oni attack.
Oh yes, yes.  Brain fart.  Ty.
GM
GM, 498 posts
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 16:38
  • msg #864

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I am pretty busy this weekend due to being involved in an event, updates will be somewhat delayed tonight/tomorrow.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 206 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sat 29 Jun 2019
at 13:42
  • msg #865

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm sorta back and fine with going to see Cox.
Thente
player, 349 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Wed 3 Jul 2019
at 16:55
  • msg #866

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Everything ok GM?
GM
GM, 502 posts
Thu 4 Jul 2019
at 04:52
  • msg #867

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I appear to be faffing about updating daily. This is my bad. My excuse is that this past week has been a lot heavier on my schedule than expected, but that's not proper.

Allow me to apologize >_<

I will continue the discussion with Cox and Barnabus for a bit, then have the party rest for the night so all the important meetings can take place.

In the meanwhile guys - lets try to keep up the once every day or two posting rate if possible? Don't worry about not doing anything major. Just a comment here or even a poke OOC please. Activity generates activity and all.

Of course, this applies to me as well :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 304 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 4 Jul 2019
at 05:00
  • msg #868

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry on the quiet from my side of things.  I've been wrapped up in my job search lately and it's kept me from having much posting motivation.  For the moment, at least, this is a good spot for Moira to sit back quietly and sip tea since there's not a lot she can really contribute to the conversation.  She knows precious little about magic and her only real input on the matter of the Oni could be that she stabbed it real good.  ^^;
GM
GM, 504 posts
Thu 4 Jul 2019
at 05:02
  • msg #869

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I feel you haha. I'm currently transitioning as well due to my move, and its making hard for me to keep track. I'm currently setting reminders to update this game xD
Moira Ruadh
player, 306 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 4 Jul 2019
at 05:11
  • msg #870

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Just got a post up at the same time you did, GM.  ^^;
Claire Larkspur
player, 187 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 4 Jul 2019
at 06:29
  • msg #871

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sorry for the unexpected absence. My schedule has been freed up a little for the time being, will try to get a post in soon!

Edit: Good call by Thente re: the rest stop. Shall I assume Claire has taken a break and settled into her lodging for now?
This message was last edited by the player at 06:35, Thu 04 July 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 307 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 5 Jul 2019
at 02:29
  • msg #872

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Can Moira offer the Help action for either of those rolls Doderic has to make?  She saw the Oni up close and could reasonably make observations to help in the drawing, and being a merchant she's naturally inclined with haggling.
GM
GM, 506 posts
Fri 5 Jul 2019
at 03:06
  • msg #873

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I would say yes for the persuasion check, no for the arcana - that one is less visual accuracy and more "did he understand the rune properly".
Moira Ruadh
player, 308 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 5 Jul 2019
at 03:22
  • msg #874

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Roger roger.  Roll with Advantage on that one, Doderic.  :3
GM
GM, 509 posts
Sun 7 Jul 2019
at 09:16
  • msg #875

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Huh. Moira's reaction is surprising. Is this because of her history with Hillsfar? :x

As a side note, please don't feel obligated to take every hook I throw your way.
Moira Ruadh
player, 310 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 7 Jul 2019
at 10:04
  • msg #876

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well, there's a significant difference between "becoming a freedom fighter to help the oppressed masses suffering under a brutal, Human-Supremecist tyrant" and "go tromping around city sewers to get rid of a gang of Kobolds because the local authorities don't want to deal with red tape".  :3c  Or did you mean her amusement at the prospect of Kobolds being around?

There is still the aforementioned schedule the party is on because of circumstances.  If they didn't have more pressing matters looming over their heads, Moira would be more accepting of the offer purely for money's sake.  Though even with that, she really doesn't see the party as being an "adventuring party" group since everyone's been brought together by circumstance rather than career.  The ties that bind the party are presently very tenuous at best.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:07, Sun 07 July 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 210 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Sun 7 Jul 2019
at 19:27
  • msg #877

Re: OOC Chat - 001

The weekend is a bit busy, no post from me until tomorrow.
Thente
player, 350 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 8 Jul 2019
at 07:22
  • msg #878

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente invited U'lin to travel with them on to Yartar here: link to a message in this game

Don't know specifically what we've told him or not at this point. He knows we're transporting a body though because it was held/stored in his and Thente's room the night of the Oni attack...
U'lin
player, 98 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Mon 8 Jul 2019
at 16:31
  • msg #879

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thanks Thente, I had missed that line.  That helps.

So offer to continue onwards after a few days has been extended, and would have likely been accepted, subject to his results of searching in town.  He knows the party is here to deliver the Stoor body, but not about the other elements of pressing/need.
Moira Ruadh
player, 311 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 8 Jul 2019
at 18:38
  • msg #880

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Regarding money at the moment: the party has the 100 GP reward split 5 ways.  But have we done anything with the contents of Stoor's haversack yet?  There was money in there as well.  According to her letter:

Upon delivery of body:
Rewards will be scaled on the following conditions:
o Body completely intact
o Box is unopened
o Number of personal items returned
o Number of personal items undamaged

All coins, unwarded items without my sigil and magical consumables on my person are free for you to do as you see fit. Use them well.


At the very least, there should be the following available for the party's use, unless I'm forgetting something?

On Stoor's Person:
x40 Gold Pieces
x90 Silver Pieces
x50 Copper Pieces


Inside Stoor's Haversack:
x5 Small red garnets worth 25gp each
x100 Gold Pieces
x50 Silver Pieces


We've been running kind of loose and easy regarding wealth and items since we haven't needed to pay much attention to it until now.  I'd like to do an inventory check to make sure we can consolidate down what we have, what we've sold, and what we've given to Nightstone prior.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:40, Mon 08 July 2019.
Thente
player, 352 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 8 Jul 2019
at 18:55
  • msg #881

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That was all divvied up between us and Nightstone a long time ago.

I thought we'd settled that. Let me dredge up the posts/info and I'll repost it here.

EDITED WITH INFORMATION:

OOC Post discussing the split: link to a message in this game

IC Post refreshing the info: link to a message in this game

tl;dr - we kept this, left the rest:

Wealth, Total Value 118.2-168.2 depending on line 1:
  • x12 Assorted Semi-precious stones worth 50gp total, potentially 100gp
  • x1 Beryl stone worth 10gp
  • x1 Silver ring worth 5gp
  • x1 Gold tooth worth 2gp
  • x1 Polished stone bracelet worth 1gp
  • x2 Heavy copper rings worth 1sp each
  • x50 Gold Pieces

Breakout:
  • 12.5 gp worth of "Assorted semi-precious stones" - 3 per PC. They might be worth 25 gp, also, GM gave a value range.
  • 2 of you got 17 gp in actual gold
  • 1 of you got 16 gp in gold and a "polished stone braclet" worth 1 gp
  • Thente took the Beryl Stone (10 gp), Silver Ring (5 gp that he gave to his niece), gold tooth (2 gp) for his 17 gp portion of the share.


So each of us got 29.5 - 42 gp worth of stuff depending on the value of those semi-precious stones of which we each got 3 and they are valued at 12.5 - 25 gp for the set of 3.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:08, Mon 08 July 2019.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 212 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 8 Jul 2019
at 19:06
  • msg #882

Re: OOC Chat - 001

We did talk about it, but Doderic never took any of that money, as he didn't need it. Now that he does, he asks for it. So it's not as bad as it might appear. It's about his share of all the coins we collected (without selling any other valuables)

Doderic has the following from Stoor:
Stoor's Ritual book, Component pouch, Pearl

I'm mostly treating the Loot and treasure as undivided stuff, although that might not be the way to do it.
Moira Ruadh
player, 312 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 8 Jul 2019
at 19:16
  • msg #883

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Back in March, which is no surprise I'd forgotten about it by this point then.  ^^;  Thanks for the legwork, Thente.

Okay, so with that all sorted, Moira is acting Party Treasurer then?  I'm perfectly fine with that since she's the one most suited to carrying money and valuables in the first place.
Thente
player, 353 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Mon 8 Jul 2019
at 19:17
  • msg #884

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I added the breakdown above.

Right now besides wealth, here is what is distributed based on OOC posts:
  • Doderic: Ritual Book, Component Pouch, Pearl for identify, Potion of Healing x1
  • Claire: Keogham's Ointment (2 doses), Healer's Kit, Chime of Opening (2 doses), Potion of Healing x2
  • Moira: Potion of Healing x1, Maps x3
  • Thente: Potion of Climbing x1, Potion of Healing x2;
    holding everything else of Stoor's in her Haversack which he's carrying, just stuffed his own pack inside the Haversack.


Thente at least is taking his own share of treasure and such. His dad taught him to get paid when he can. I'm sure he won't know what to do with the vast adventurer level wealth that awaits him if he survives, but for now he's carrying his own.

If you want to hold wealth for others, that's fine.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:19, Mon 08 July 2019.
GM
GM, 511 posts
Tue 9 Jul 2019
at 13:34
  • msg #885

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So I'm getting Thente and Claire to the Bank, then Doderic and U'lin shopping, while Moira secures the Nightstone meeting. That's three threads.

Since Nightstones situation heavily concerns Thente and Claire, I would suggest Moira follow them to perform the bank deposit first, then proceed with the meeting. Then, depending on events for Doderic and U'lin, the whole party can be there for the meeting with the Grand Trabbar.

How much interest is there is roleplaying the meeting out in full for the situation concerning Nightstone? I'm worried people are finding all this talking a bit draggy :x
Thente
player, 354 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 9 Jul 2019
at 14:53
  • msg #886

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira said that she'd accompany us in her OOC too, so she can come to the bank with us, then we can go meet Grand Trabbar.

If Doderic and U'lin don't care about that part, then we can have two threads going. I don't really know how much RP there is to be had at the bank portion. We might be able to semi-hand wave that part then meet Grand Trabbar

Then we can meet up with Doderic and U'lin at the Pavillion to meet the other side of Stoor's sending stone (maybe).
Claire Larkspur
player, 190 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 9 Jul 2019
at 23:35
  • msg #887

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
Since Nightstones situation heavily concerns Thente and Claire, I would suggest Moira follow them to perform the bank deposit first, then proceed with the meeting. Then, depending on events for Doderic and U'lin, the whole party can be there for the meeting with the Grand Trabbar.


I've created the IC hook for that!
U'lin
player, 100 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Mon 15 Jul 2019
at 04:27
  • msg #888

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Were we told that the Gondian temple or smithing quarter was in the grand market?
If no, U'lin's not looking for anything, just keeping company to Doddie.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 214 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 15 Jul 2019
at 05:12
  • msg #889

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doddie! HA :D

Scrolls are definitely secondary to the smithing. Perhaps we're just passing through the market to the Gond?

Either way, posting during the day
GM
GM, 515 posts
Tue 16 Jul 2019
at 17:04
  • msg #890

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Asking around is free! U'lin will quickly learn that the smith's guild is in the Trade Ward, while the Temple of Gond has two branches in Waterdeep - the main branch (House of Wonders) is located in the Sea Ward, with the other temples. The side branch, the House of Inspired Hands, is located here at the Trade Ward. They cater to different stratas of folk.
Thente
player, 356 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Tue 16 Jul 2019
at 21:36
  • msg #891

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@GM - is Claire doing ok? She hasn't posted since a week ago, and I think Moira and I are kind of waiting for her to lead this interaction since it's her Dad's money and all.
GM
GM, 516 posts
Wed 17 Jul 2019
at 18:23
  • msg #892

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'll try PMing her. Feel free to post some leading questions first? Hopefully things are still okay.
Claire Larkspur
player, 191 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 17 Jul 2019
at 23:32
  • msg #893

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So sorry! I fell behind while having guests at home and some other irl stuff. I'll post asap!
Moira Ruadh
player, 315 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 19 Jul 2019
at 08:45
  • msg #894

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Just a heads-up; please don't wait on me for general posting at the moment unless there's some specific inquiry for Moira.  There's been a loss in the family just a few days ago and we're dealing with the aftermath right now, so I'm going to be a little preoccupied.
Thente
player, 358 posts
HP: 23/23 - AC 11(16)
Con +4, Cha +5; PP/PI 14
Fri 19 Jul 2019
at 16:24
  • msg #895

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Moira Ruadh (msg # 894):

Sorry to hear that Moira, that's always tough.
GM
GM, 517 posts
Fri 19 Jul 2019
at 17:42
  • msg #896

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ah okay. Its late now, I'll update tomorrow morning then. Sorry for your loss Moira, thank you for informing us.
Thente
player, 363 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Mon 29 Jul 2019
at 18:06
  • msg #897

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I think a bit of mix up in the Coin thread.

I understood from Claire's post that Thente was carrying the box in and then giving Claire privacy, so she'd be the only Investigation check to start.

If she wants to invite us in to look I"m sure Moira and I would be happy to add checks to the mix.
GM
GM, 529 posts
Mon 29 Jul 2019
at 21:33
  • msg #898

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ah, my bad. Thanks for clarifying Thente I have edited the post to reflect this.

Since the information is public (ooc wise) already I'll just leave the thread there. Claire can choose to invite you guys in if she likes.

I'll be boarding my plane soon. Will update again after 24 hours :)
GM
GM, 530 posts
Wed 31 Jul 2019
at 14:23
  • msg #899

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Arizona for me!

(Try to keep the chatter in the OOC)

I've reached. Sleeping off the jetlag. Will update Doderic's post soon, then move events forward asap. Hoping to get you guys to the Temple meeting and later the one at the Teahouse by next week :)
Thente
player, 364 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Thu 1 Aug 2019
at 22:50
  • msg #900

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hmm, AZ sounds hot! have fun :)

Chicago... I've always wanted to go there just to eat Deep Dish Pizza. Enjoy Claire! Is it a long term move?
This message was last edited by the player at 22:51, Thu 01 Aug 2019.
Claire Larkspur
player, 201 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 13:51
  • msg #901

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yup! 2 years for graduate school. :)

Deep-dish pizza yisssssss
U'lin
player, 103 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 13:54
  • msg #902

Re: OOC Chat - 001

North of the 49th here, so Ice cream?  :)
Claire Larkspur
player, 203 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 14:13
  • msg #903

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to U'lin (msg # 902):

Isn't that really near UChicago? That's where I'll be haha.
U'lin
player, 105 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 14:47
  • msg #904

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Claire Larkspur:
In reply to U'lin (msg # 902):
Isn't that really near UChicago? That's where I'll be haha.
2500-2600 kmish trip one-way ... so, it's relative :)
Claire Larkspur
player, 204 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 14:52
  • msg #905

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Oh, I thought you meant 49th St XD
U'lin
player, 106 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 15:05
  • msg #906

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Chuckle.. nope, meant the 49th parallel :)
GM
GM, 531 posts
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 15:50
  • msg #907

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Claire with a 9 you don't really find anything beyond the initial list of items shown. The box is pretty nice though :>
Thente
player, 365 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 18:05
  • msg #908

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to U'lin (msg # 906):

LOL nice U'lin!

According to Google, I'm 2,100 miles from Chicago!

What are you studying Claire?
Claire Larkspur
player, 207 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sun 4 Aug 2019
at 13:58
  • msg #909

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@Thente

I'm doing a history masters!

Also, I'll wait for your post (and two cents on the very interesting ethical question) before posting again. :)
Thente
player, 367 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Mon 5 Aug 2019
at 21:38
  • msg #910

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In reply to Claire Larkspur (msg # 909):

Awesome. I love history, I wish I could go back to school but life takes money ;)

Sorry, Thente doesn't have a ton of wisdom to add to your ethical discussion!
GM
GM, 536 posts
Mon 5 Aug 2019
at 22:24
  • msg #911

Re: OOC Chat - 001

A brief investigation of the obsidian chunk shows that the runes have been etched into it quite purposefully. I will need an Arcana check from Thente if he is to identify it further
Thente
player, 368 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Mon 5 Aug 2019
at 22:40
  • msg #912

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Updated my post with my check. Whew, die roller was kind for two rolls in a row!
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 221 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Wed 7 Aug 2019
at 17:36
  • msg #913

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm fine with moving on.
Thente
player, 370 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Wed 7 Aug 2019
at 22:48
  • msg #914

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@GM - I need to know what my Arcana check yielded on the obsidian
GM
GM, 538 posts
Thu 8 Aug 2019
at 23:19
  • msg #915

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Apologies, I got roped into helping out with a major event. Updated are going to be heavily staggered until the 12th.

I'll put a proper announcement up in a bit. Will respond to Thente first.
U'lin
player, 109 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Fri 9 Aug 2019
at 03:41
  • msg #916

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic Cookingpot:
I'm fine with moving on.
"
GM
GM, 543 posts
Sun 11 Aug 2019
at 14:04
  • msg #917

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I will be running threads c and b simultaneously, since I doubt they will overlap. Thread a can probably be closed, but you guys are free to discuss the ethical issues (though I'm sensing that Claire has pretty much made up her mind)
GM
GM, 544 posts
Mon 12 Aug 2019
at 15:48
  • msg #918

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Ulin, Doderic- feel free to continue posting in both threads as like you.

I'm looking to update at about 13 hours from this post, if anyone has any response.

Now that I'm settled in, the update schedule should be more regular again :)
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 222 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Mon 12 Aug 2019
at 16:10
  • msg #919

Re: OOC Chat - 001

That's the plan. Just got ran over by work so it will be a few hours more before I get to it.
GM
GM, 547 posts
Wed 14 Aug 2019
at 00:52
  • msg #920

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Doderic? You wanna chime in on either thread before I move stuff forward? (Maybe about another 3-4 hours from this post)
GM
GM, 550 posts
Wed 14 Aug 2019
at 07:25
  • msg #921

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Out of character, I just want to be clear that mass revivals like what Moira is asking for, outside of specific miracles or similar efforts by past heroes, adventurers or Chosen, is practically unheard of. Death in Faerun is pretty permanent most of the time. Resurrection magic is mostly available only to the very rich and powerful - usually the mid-upper nobility, and usually carries with it political issues of its own. There are religious, social and economic reasons such magic isn't cast regularly (the biggest being the supply of single diamonds worth 500gp and up is limited and watched. Getting one or two now and then is fine. 14 at once would raise a lot of questions and inflate the price massively. More so for 1000gp and so on.)

Moira would be aware of this, and I want to be sure that her most recent post and threat was made with the knowledge that the vast majority of nobles would have the same reaction as Semiri (though perhaps with considerably more diplomacy).

In this game, I do intend for death to be, for most part, costly. Simply being able to fork up the gold, outside of major cities like Waterdeep, is not going to be enough. Perhaps for Raise Dead, if the party is near a major city. Resurrection and True Rez are going to be far trickier. Mostly because I do want to acknowledge the rez mechanic, with people in-world making use of it, but also want to avoid the 'revolving door of the afterlife'.

This is a good time to mention that if you guys do die, finding a diamond worth 500gp on the market is not going to be easy, especially outside a big city. And finding someone to cast the any spell higher than 5th is also not meant to be common. At least with your current power and influence.

I know with the raise dead scroll and Veradda's note, it might seem like raising is pretty common. Its not. There's a reason Veradda has you bring her body all the way to Yartar instead of just Waterdeep. And Claire's raise dead scroll + contract is not something given to just anyone with money. What this says about her dad, I'll leave it to your imaginations for now :P
Moira Ruadh
player, 326 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 14 Aug 2019
at 07:49
  • msg #922

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I didn't exactly intend to have Moira make her comment as a threat, mind you, which is why I didn't roll for Intimidate.  She's not saying that she'll go around bad-mouthing House Nandar for not helping - just that such a view among the population, nobility especially, would naturally develop if Moira manages to pull off the whole effort without their help.  It's a bad look even if Moira refused to comment on Lady Semiri's refusal at all.

But for the scope of it, yeah, this is The Big Thing™ and I've more or less set it as Moira's driving motivation for the campaign as far as she's concerned, hence her statements of being willing to dedicate the rest of her life and businesses to achieving it.  Go big or go home, as it was.  :3
This message was last edited by the player at 08:07, Wed 14 Aug 2019.
GM
GM, 551 posts
Wed 14 Aug 2019
at 08:01
  • msg #923

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I like it! It's a very measurable goal, and one that fits well with Moira's character. Reminds me of that Japanese guy who became a hunter and killed ten bears for each villager in his home town that was killed by one.
Moira Ruadh
player, 327 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 14 Aug 2019
at 08:06
  • msg #924

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Strictly speaking (and those who understand divine magic better than Moira would be able to hash it out) there's ways of reducing the overall cost at hand.  "Speak With Dead" is a much easier spell to manage for a lower-level NPC Cleric and can be used to confirm whether or not a given Nightstone villager even wants to be revived.  Some of the older folk or those who were unhappy with their lives might be keen on staying in the afterlife if it's a better outcome for them, after all.

Assuming cooperation with House Nandar is gained for funding, and depending on how quickly resources necessary can be scrambled, we could get away with casting the 5th level "Raise Dead" instead of "Resurrection" if things can be arranged to get done within the next six or seven days.  Beyond that we're outside "Raise Dead"'s 10-day limit and would have to rely on "Resurrection".  But "Raise Dead" would basically cut the cost in half to begin with (on top of any further discounts from villagers who don't want to come back to life) and be easier to swing in general given its lower casting requirements and more affordable diamond cost.

Working on that sort of limited time frame would probably be implausible though, barring some extremely good rolls or DM mercy.  At the very least, it would either require multiple NPC Clerics to cover the total amount of necessary spell slots assuming they can manage to pull double-duty by casting first thing in the morning, Long Resting through the middle of the day, and then casting again in the evening.  Or, as would be more likely, reviving as many as possible within the limited time span and then resorting to the more costly Resurrection for the rest who they couldn't fit in within time.  Either way, reduced costs in general.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:12, Wed 14 Aug 2019.
GM
GM, 552 posts
Wed 14 Aug 2019
at 08:17
  • msg #925

Re: OOC Chat - 001

This is definitely the sort of argument (perhaps accompanied by a religion check or similar) that might help your party's position with Serimi and Goskin if said IC *cough*

You guys are basically doing an investor/charity pitch. Lol.
Moira Ruadh
player, 328 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 14 Aug 2019
at 08:48
  • msg #926

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'm partly hoping Goskin himself could present some of that point since he'd have a better understanding of the church's personal resources and casting capacity.  Though whether he feels convinced enough to even bring it up is the real rub.
Thente
player, 375 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Wed 14 Aug 2019
at 17:11
  • msg #927

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I love this plan and idea... I also agree that the more time wasted the more costly. Speak with Deads could certainly decrease the costs, as well as getting things done quickly.

If Claire wanted to use the scroll/contract on her dad or mom, we'd only need 13 Speaks/Raises done by the Waukeenar and Nandars.

Not sure what Thente brings to the table in terms of skills for this skill challenge, but I'll do my best!



I hadn't thought about that scroll in light of high-level magic availability and resources, etc. That IS a big deal. What the heck was her dad doing in Nightstone?? :)

Claire... are you secretly a princess or something? :)
This message was last edited by the player at 17:34, Wed 14 Aug 2019.
GM
GM, 553 posts
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 03:11
  • msg #928

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Claire, U'lin, you guys wanna add your own rolls to the challenge?

I'll likely push things forward in a few hours. Maybe 12 hours from the time of this post.
Moira Ruadh
player, 329 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 03:14
  • msg #929

Re: OOC Chat - 001

If Doderic wasn't going to contribute a specific roll of his own to the conversation, could I roll my Persuasion at Advantage, basically taking his presence as moral support for the Help action?  :3
GM
GM, 555 posts
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 03:22
  • msg #930

Re: OOC Chat - 001

With entirely passive actions, I'm going to say no to that :<

Now if Doderic was a fwuffy mascot on the other hand...
Moira Ruadh
player, 330 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 03:58
  • msg #931

Re: OOC Chat - 001

There's actually two little known rules regarding Halflings.  First is that we're all each other's emotional support Hobbit and naturally grant Advantage via proximity, similar to a Kobold's "Pack Tactics" ability.  Second is that if the entire party consists of Halflings, we gain the ability to join together like Voltron.
Thente
player, 377 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 04:01
  • msg #932

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
Second is that if the entire party consists of Halflings, we gain the ability to join together like Voltron.


*shudder*
Claire Larkspur
player, 212 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 04:39
  • msg #933

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
I hadn't thought about that scroll in light of high-level magic availability and resources, etc. That IS a big deal. What the heck was her dad doing in Nightstone?? :)

Claire... are you secretly a princess or something? :)


Gosh, I sure wouldn't mind if I were. I could think of a couple of things I'd like to do with an army or something!
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 224 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 04:41
  • msg #934

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Halflings? ;)

And I know passivity isn't the way to go, but I'm completely spent, so Doderic is as well. (It took me a few days to even realize we're all at that meeting...)
GM
GM, 558 posts
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 21:51
  • msg #935

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No issue Doderic. Was worried you were refraining from joining in because you didn't see an opportunity. If you are busy, it can't be helped.

In the case of the skill challenge, I am tracking successes (persuasion checks mostly) with the DC being affected by other checks (insight, things said during the speech, knowledge checks to figure what they are talking about...etc).

Case in point, Moira's most recent post "unlocks" extra info she can use to adjust her case and dial-down the DC. I wasn't planning on something this elaborate, but given the degree of Moira's plan and the impact it would have, I feel it's only fair to represent the challenge (and reward) for it.
Moira Ruadh
player, 333 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 16 Aug 2019
at 02:06
  • msg #936

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Honestly, all of this is surprisingly nerve-wracking.  I love it.  :3c
U'lin
player, 113 posts
24/24HP AC19 PP15 Crafter
+3/0/2/1/5/1
Fri 16 Aug 2019
at 04:24
  • msg #937

Re: OOC Chat - 001

GM:
Claire, U'lin, you guys wanna add your own rolls to the challenge?
To what, sorry?
Oh!  I thought 1C was for the other characters only, so I wasn't reading it, to prevent inadvertent metagaming.

I thought that the Black Company/Waukeen meeting was not including U'lin.  Moira was keeping that close to the vest, and I also thought that thread was just her private atonement of breach of contract, and she was due her privacy :)  No?

Thente OOC:
Err, I don't remember someone doing that, and Thente probably wouldn't have since it's kind of secret? We don't what the Zhent's to know that we know that... that is to say that we're trying to undermine them!
Nothing against U'lin he's proven very trusty, but we just met him. He could be a secret Firbolg Zhent agent or something :P


Moira OOC:
They could have at least told U'lin that they intended to go to the temple for personal matters while traveling earlier, as Moira is an obvious worshiper.


IF he has been there, sorry for silence!  Let me know the preference, and I can join/speak up or stay out as preferred.
GM
GM, 559 posts
Fri 16 Aug 2019
at 04:31
  • msg #938

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Interesting point. Moira, what are your thoughts on this? I'm fine with assuming U'lin is not with the party as of yet. This has no bearing on the current skill challenge beyond reducing the impact each successful skill each has.

EDIT: also I'll advance U'lins thread in a bit :)
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:32, Fri 16 Aug 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 334 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 16 Aug 2019
at 04:34
  • msg #939

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira certainly would have kept any mention of the Zhents specifically to herself.  Though U'lin could have reasonably been informed about the point of the meeting with the Grand Trabbar and Lady Semiri (getting things squared away about Nightstone), even if he was spared the finer details.  That would be more out of consideration for him; he'd be welcome to attend if he cared to, but could just as easily do his own thing in the meantime if he didn't feel it was any of his business to get involved with.

So, that's up to you, U'lin.  Would your friendly Firbolg have cared to sit in on a housekeeping meeting, or would he have been more interested in pursuing his own affairs and meet up with the party afterward?
Thente
player, 378 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Fri 16 Aug 2019
at 17:17
  • msg #940

Re: OOC Chat - 001

OOC question on the 1C thread meeting for me... Has Moira disclosed the Zhent presence to the Grand Trabbar already in her note? I know that she is holding it close and hasn't said it explicitly to Lady Nandar, but just wondering if the Trabbar knows.

EDIT:

GM - you only want Moira to respond to the thread 1C right now, so let us know when we can kick in on it as well.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:32, Fri 16 Aug 2019.
GM
GM, 561 posts
Fri 16 Aug 2019
at 17:59
  • msg #941

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Oops. She already has, so the rest of you- please feel free to chip in. "Only Moira" meant only Moira gets to make the extra persuasion roll!

I believe she did disclose it to the Trabbar, seeing as she hopes to leverage the Temples influence and antipathy towards Zhent principles to drive Kella out.
Thente
player, 379 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Fri 16 Aug 2019
at 20:12
  • msg #942

Re: OOC Chat - 001

So if I add my own persuasion to this round it won't' do anything?
GM
GM, 562 posts
Fri 16 Aug 2019
at 20:14
  • msg #943

Re: OOC Chat - 001

No I meant that only Moira gets an extra persuasion roll, because the first one doesn't "count" to the successes since it just unlocked more info.

Just post friend :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 335 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 16 Aug 2019
at 20:20
  • msg #944

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira pretty explicitly trusts the Church's integrity and would have told the Grand Trabbar everything, on the basis that she assumes anyone of his higher rank within the clergy can't possibly be corrupt given the nature and practices of the faith.  She intended to lay all the cards out for House Nandar as well, but has only withheld information on the matter specifically because Goskin warned her otherwise.
Claire Larkspur
player, 215 posts
AC 15, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 19 Aug 2019
at 18:23
  • msg #945

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Hi all! I've arrived in the US and am settling in. I haven't got reliable wifi or any furniture yet, so it'll be a little more before I can resume regular posting. Hopefully this will happen soon!
Thente
player, 381 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Mon 19 Aug 2019
at 22:17
  • msg #946

Re: OOC Chat - 001

@GM - can we get a list of the 14 dead with occupations so we can talk about that OOC?

Side note: go Moira! What a great idea and plan! Glad we're helping to push it forward.
Moira Ruadh
player, 336 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 19 Aug 2019
at 22:31
  • msg #947

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Given that Moira only knew her immediate family and friend who lived in Nightstone, it'll definitely be up to Claire and Thente to help on the whole decision here.  Though Moira is going to make a case to them to have her nephew be one of the two revived - it's going to make her feel hella guilty and selfish for doing so, but her kin need him.

Since Lady Nandar isn't being rezzed and Claire is undecided about her father (though she also has her own method for rezzing him outside of this deal if she chooses), I'm out of suggestions myself.  Moira has her friend, but it would likely be better/easier on her conscience if someone else was rezzed by suggestion.  Though in the case of Claire's inherited scroll and rez service with the church - do keep in mind that spell has a 10-day time limit on it, so if she wanted to try and use it on her father, it'd have to be done in the same time frame as we're working on now.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:34, Mon 19 Aug 2019.
GM
GM, 566 posts
Mon 19 Aug 2019
at 22:52
  • msg #948

Re: OOC Chat - 001

If you guys want, I can type up a list of NPCs who died and their occupations, with some room for embellishment by Thente/Claire. Not RN though, I'm basically in the middle of furnishing my apartment :P

I'd say focus on what you guys wanna extort get out of the meeting for now - more aid? More rezs (hard)? Nandar discounts on future rezs?
Moira Ruadh
player, 337 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 19 Aug 2019
at 23:08
  • msg #949

Re: OOC Chat - 001

In that case, I'd probably say focus on getting more aid sent to Nightstone and ensuring that the Zhent threat is taken seriously.  That would be a much easier sell to work with and it'd really defeat the point of all this if we return to Nightstone later on to find the whole place is being shadowed by a criminal underbelly.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:09, Mon 19 Aug 2019.
GM
GM, 567 posts
Tue 20 Aug 2019
at 04:22
  • msg #950

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sure, I would say that's another persuasion check from Moira/Thente/Claire - each success will bump one of those points up a category. I'm intentionally not disclosing the DC here, but I would say its easier than the previous that Moira made :)
GM
GM, 569 posts
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 17:26
  • msg #951

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Since the checks -do- matter, I'll give another 12 hours or so for Claire and Thente to chime in. Claire -did- say she would be busy, so I'm willing to just roll a flat check for her without much dialogue (does anyone want to suggest something Claire might say at this juncture?) so we can move on soon :)
Thente
player, 382 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 19:48
  • msg #952

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I'll get something up today. Last night was my TBT group and today was 1st day of Kindergarten for my oldest.
GM
GM, 570 posts
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 20:14
  • msg #953

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Sounds good! Hope you guys are enjoying the scene. I'm worried it's dragging too much :<
Moira Ruadh
player, 339 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 20:21
  • msg #954

Re: OOC Chat - 001

We should return to the plot sooner or later, but it's better that something of this story-based importance gets its fair screen time.  Plus it helps establish future NPC interactions and plot goals, along with giving the party a very easy driving hook to get involved in future dangers.  This whole deal pretty much assures that Moira is going to be throwing herself at any upcoming quest that has the potential reward of a quality diamond from here on out, regardless of other motivating factors.

Whiiiiiii~ch is a good thing considering the scope of this module's overall events.  A previous game I played on this module fizzled early because the party very wisely pointed out that contending with Giants was wholly outside their wheelhouse and they lacked any sufficient reason to take such a risk.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:24, Wed 21 Aug 2019.
Thente
player, 383 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [1/3] Sor Pt
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 22:31
  • msg #955

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I know our overall pace has dipped somewhat from the early stages, but I'm fine with what we're exploring right now rather than hitting the main plot points.

Honestly, because we're doing things like what we're doing right now, it gives this game a greater feeling of verisimilitude to me. We're actively posting and following up on threads that in other games would be glossed over or handwaved, and I love it.

That said... part of the fun is leveling a character, and since that is mostly tied to plot, I DO want to get back to it sometime :)

@Moira - I love that your previous group just quit the adventure because "giants". That is very sensible :)

My TBT group last night were exploring a house that seemed haunted. DM expected us to find and fight a monster, but we bailed on that house... because it was creepy and seemed haunted and we didn't want to get lost in the weird labyrinth. So, unfortunately, the monster escaped the house and killed and fed on over half the village before we figured out what was up and stopped it... whoops! :(
Moira Ruadh
player, 340 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 23:08
  • msg #956

Re: OOC Chat - 001

One of the flaws of this module, which our DM has already mentioned identifying and working around, is that it doesn't really do much to make the player party actually want to get involved.  As written, it's sort of like "Well, here's our plucky group of adventurers.  Uh-oh, Goblins!  Some Orcs!" and then all a sudden it drops freakin' GIANTS on the party's plate at, like, Level 2 and just expects them to roll with it.  The entire scope of the story goes from "small town troubles" to "epic Lord of the Rings scale grand adventures" all at once and it's a lot to try and swallow.

That previous party all went "Uhhhh... this is outside our pay grade" and bounced off to do an entirely different module instead.  It's funny looking back on it, though it was a little annoying at the time.  ^^;  This is actually the longest-running SKT game I've been in purely because there's more concern being taken for making sure the characters are grounded into the story and personally invested into seeing events through.  To say nothing of the better pacing and characterization the DM's offered as well.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:09, Wed 21 Aug 2019.
GM
GM, 571 posts
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 00:17
  • msg #957

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Thente:
Honestly, because we're doing things like what we're doing right now, it gives this game a greater feeling of verisimilitude to me. We're actively posting and following up on threads that in other games would be glossed over or handwaved, and I love it.


Moira Ruadh:
This is actually the longest-running SKT game I've been in purely because there's more concern being taken for making sure the characters are grounded into the story and personally invested into seeing events through.  To say nothing of the better pacing and characterization the DM's offered as well.


I am crai. This is high praise >_< thanks guys

And yea the next meeting is intended (if it isn't obvious) to kick you guys back to the main plot again, what with following up on Stoor's death and other things maybe.

I'm not sure whats the exact pacing I want for this game, leveling wise, but I do want more opportunities for you guys to 'flex' at each level so to speak. We'll see how it goes :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 341 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 01:01
  • msg #958

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Whenever I do milestone leveling, I usually aim it to give my players a bump to next level at each major story beat regardless of what sort of physical action they've been up to.  That way the party always feels eager going into each new scenario since they've got something extra in their toolkit to play around with and it avoids people feeling like they're repeating what they've been doing for a given amount of time prior.

For example, once we leave Waterdeep (I don't recall whether we're going to return to Nightstone to check in on everything or just trust it's all going to be handled by House Nandar), that's usually where I would kick in a level up if I were the one DMing.  The idea being that we've basically completed the "Nightstone Phase" of the story and are moving into the next big part of the narrative with Stoor, so leveling there would be a capstone to chapter of the story.  It would also set us at Level 4, which would land us some Feats or general stat boosts, which would be extremely helpful in coming events.  But, again, that's just my personal take.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:02, Thu 22 Aug 2019.
GM
GM, 573 posts
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 01:21
  • msg #959

Re: OOC Chat - 001

If anyone has anything to add, now is the time. Else, just have your character respond/agree with the terms. IC-wise, the contract will not be signed until Lady Semiri Nandar has a chance to discuss the details with her patriarch, but for all intents and purposes you guys may assume the terms will be agreed to.

There will be a quick wrap-up scene, then I'll skip to the meeting with Stoor's mysterious employer.

Regarding leveling, I consider the 3rd level you guys just gained as the one that concluded the Nightstone arc. I would add that I don't intend to keep you guys in "Tier 1" for too long though, so don't worry about it :)

That said, for the sake of future planning - where are you guys planning to go after Waterdeep? Straight to Yartar via the land route to rez Stoor?
Moira Ruadh
player, 342 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 01:29
  • msg #960

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I believe that was the plan?  Take the Long Road north through Amphail, then head west at Triboar on to Yartar.  Moira originally wanted to stop by Triboar to give her friend the news of her ex's death, but with the resurrection plan in play, she's going to have doubts on whether it's the right thing to do.  I'd be willing to pass up on it to move directly onto Yartar in that case.

Regarding the current state of the rolls and negotiations: it looks good as far as I'm concerned.  Anything further seems like it'd be pushing our luck, unless Claire wanted to dial back some of her platinum to keep for herself.  The only point Moira would personally argue into the contract would be the reasonable reduction of cost for any souls who don't want to be revived.  Just detail work, but it'd be a contract for "the resurrection of 12 souls or fewer dependent on their wishes".
This message was last edited by the player at 01:37, Thu 22 Aug 2019.
Thente
player, 385 posts
HP: 23/23; AC 11(16)
pP/I 14; [3/3] Sor Pt
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 05:29
  • msg #961

Re: OOC Chat - 001

I think straight to Yartar is the plan, yes.

The only wrinkle I know of is that Claire wanted to look for her brother while in Waterdeep.

I'm content with how the negotiations ended up. Honestly with the enormity of what Moira requested, I'm surprised we got as much as we did...
Moira Ruadh
player, 343 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 05:43
  • msg #962

Re: OOC Chat - 001

To be completely honest, I actually expected to either be turned down entirely and have it be Moira's personal quest to see it done, or even accidentally making an enemy of House Nandar because of wanting to rez the Lady of Nightstone.  Interfering in House politics is always a bad idea.  ^^;

So what're we looking at now?  A brief aside for Claire to look for her brother, maybe a chat outside the temple for a collective "what the hell was that?" at Moira for dropping all this on their heads, and then a narrative jump straight to Yartar?  Or is there going to be potential on-the-road events like with the Oni and the Inn for us to contend with on the way?  Narratively speaking, we're staying in Nightstone until at least the coming morning, so there's time for Claire to get in touch with her family while we're still here.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:44, Thu 22 Aug 2019.
GM
GM, 574 posts
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 06:01
  • msg #963

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Things I can do now:

-scene skip to outside the temple for discussion
-give you guys maybe a day or two to chat it out then open the next thread

Things later:
-side thread for Claire to look for her brother (I might do this in a PM depending on how private this idk

Do tell me your thoughts on this, I'll update in 12 hours or so.

OOC:
-regarding the travel, I'll also like the groups opinion on this.

I would like to have some elements of traveling and town interactions. But that can get really draggy between here and Yartar if we do too much. So I would like to know which system you guys prefer:

1) Town focus, with occasional "traveling interruptions". The party will effectively stop at every town along the way, so we will spend some time at each. Not everything will be plot relevant, but there will be at least some hooks and a some info gathering the party can do before deciding if to press on. Decision points basically come from NPCs and the town.

2) Travel focus, with more details about on road encounters, more unusual side tracks in the open wilderness, more "off road" adventures. Towns will have less time and focus, though there will still be hooks and info there as well as serving as rest stops. Decision points are more "forks in the road" than specific NPCs.

3) Quest focus, we basically fast traveling between locations, while I interrupt with unusual events "along the way". More mission based pacing, a bit less organic than the other two, but might be "cleaner" from a meta pov.

This isn't set in stone and can shift as we go along as the story or group dynamics neccesitate
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:02, Thu 22 Aug 2019.
Moira Ruadh
player, 344 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 06:27
  • msg #964

Re: OOC Chat - 001

If nothing else, it'd be nice to give the party a little time to narratively explore Waterdeep outside of errands.  Finally get Claire the chance to see the ocean, yea?  :3  We can say the group discussed their plans on which two folk to rez first during that downtime before things move ahead.

Regarding stops - I'd personally prefer it if stops made in towns or other locations on the way were done so only if there's a purpose to them.  That is to say, that they offer something concrete for the party to gain or lose.  If we're just stopping in for a handful of posts at each location for no other reason than to be there, then it could readily grind the pace down to a crawl.  I think it'd be a good idea to ask the group at each location for a case by case decision, seeing if we all feel like we want to hang around and do some poking around, or if we'd rather just pass along.  Maybe give some impression of what we might find there?  At the risk of being too meta, a brief checklist of things to make it seem worth our while might help.  Something like "you heard rumor there's a Wizard who lives here who might be interested in buying and selling" or "this town recently had a big festival and it's full of tourists from all over who might have news and gossip".  Just something to give us an idea of what we might be able to seek out and a general direction to pursue.
GM
GM, 575 posts
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 06:59
  • msg #965

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Yea that is exactly what I'm thinking. Rumors, hearsays, reputations about the town from traders or from previous towns. When you guys enter I'll give the some basic info + some potential hooks with bonus for anyone with the right background/checks.

Note that just because there is a hook, doesn't mean you have to pursue it, like the case with the kobolds in the sewers. I can promise though, that none of the ones I offer are 'pointless' - they're events that are happening in the game, whether as part of the local 'ecosystem' or in relation to greater things happening.

Sounds like you prefer 1) Moira? With a greater focus on NPC interactions and townsfolk. 2) will be more exploration based so to speak.
Moira Ruadh
player, 345 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 07:16
  • msg #966

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Well, I am a core CHA and DEX Rogue character build, so interacting with people is sort of what I do.  ;3  But yeah, so long as it doesn't bog down things or make anyone feel like we're spending too much time chatting and not enough time progressing.

It may also work well if we sometimes just break down such events to a simple dice roll and quick narration.  For example, say we go somewhere and Doderic wants to peruse arcane stuff, but there's nothing especially relevant there for a non-magic sort like Moira.  In that case it might do to use a quick bit of Downtime rules for Moira nipping off to find some work or distraction she can do to get extra coin for the road based on a table of outcomes.  Something like that would allow us to simplify non-essential stops for the sake of speed if we started feeling like things were dragging.

Also, because I've forgotten how we discussed it prior - are we using Downtime rules regarding things like Moira teaching the other party members skills, such as her Giant Linguistics 101 course?  Is that just a thing we assume is going to take place while they're traveling and then make a roll for how well it takes whenever we stop to camp after a given period?
This message was last edited by the player at 07:20, Thu 22 Aug 2019.
GM
GM, 576 posts
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 07:32
  • msg #967

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Moira Ruadh:
Also, because I've forgotten how we discussed it prior - are we using Downtime rules regarding things like Moira teaching the other party members skills, such as her Giant Linguistics 101 course?  Is that just a thing we assume is going to take place while they're traveling and then make a roll for how well it takes whenever we stop to camp after a given period?


Pretty much yes, its going to be pretty loose - just like "oh we spent x days here, maybe some percentage of that can be spent towards teaching skills...etc". I would say you can't do multiple trainings at once, so giant linguistics is the main thing atm.

Once we hit specific thresholds, we'll roll for the degree of success. Does that sound good?
Moira Ruadh
player, 346 posts
AC 14 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 07:38
  • msg #968

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Works for me.  I believe the only other skill Moira noted to be teaching was showing Claire how to cook, but that can just be narrative fluff unless she actually wanted to try picking up Proficiency with Cook's Utensils or something from the effort.
Doderic Cookingpot
player, 227 posts
AC 13; PP 10; Saves:
-1; +3; +2; +4; +2; +1
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 13:47
  • msg #969

Re: OOC Chat - 001

Trying to wrap my head around everything happening/being discussed.
Doderic will follow Moira's lead (although he probably doesn't need to sign anything....)

We still have the Pavilion shenanigans to take care of. Depending on what we hear there we'll see if we can/want spend a few more days in Waterdeep.

Doderic will certainly make use of pauses in towns to scribe some scrolls.

RPoL:
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