Absolutely. You may use caster/manifester level in place of BAB when qualifying for these feats in this bubble region.

Is the fight over?

Yes.

I'll be away over Christmas (isn't everyone?). I'll have some internet access, but not much.

Expect a temporary slowdown over Christmas.

The Temple will need to be in Group 5, else I can only post as my Rashemi barbarian.

Would it be possible for me to use a tanglefoot bag to gum up the hole to slow everyone else's fall?

Not in time (you would need a move action to draw it)

Gnomes bounce, right? :)

Oh yeah. I wouldn't worry too much about 4 damage to any of your comrades - they're all at least a little tough.

Hehe. Well, if I had Mass Levitate, I'd use it on them... but running on walls is just so much cooler ;)

Hmm. Think I could bring the ceiling down on them before they realise I'm doing it? Problem is, Energy Ray is noisy. ><

I was thinking of using the magic paint brush to make some holes. :D

Each of the PC's has something that can help in this situation.
The paintbrush is one of my favorite magical items, and is definitely useful.

Remember that while the mind flayers are unaware of you, you should still be quiet in there.

Lets see... I could boil the scrying pool, maybe, or cut a throat... but apart from that, I don't know... I could distract them with a weasel or something, but they're already distracted. The same goes for my Hand of the Mage and the sword is just useful as a weapon... In the same way, I could run around them in circles all day, but I don't know if I could hit them before they hit me, and I am kind of fragile.

When fighting mind flayers, your hit point total is far less important than your grapple check...

And your will save more so than that... though I have to admit, I'm used to the uber-melee mind flayers from Neverwinter Nights. I remember that time my undead ranger (it was on a PW) got chased around for hours by an Alhoon being smacked down, getting back up, smacked down, getting up... because the damn thing did 40-50 damage with a punch.

Ok. As a metagame suggestion, you can basically do anything without alerting the mind flayers as long as you pay the slightest bit of care to stealth. If you aren't sure about an idea that will be quiet, try it.
Remember that if a fight starts, the mind flayers will have to avoid stunning each other - you may find you have a chance to escape or fight back.
Alternatively, you could try to get any remaining minotaurs and Deepwalker to come down with you - his flail can almost kill an illithid in one hit, and he has cleave.

Do I think painting out the walls and caving the roof in is a good idea in these circumstances? :D

As a last resort. A cave-in has a moderate chance of killing everyone inside.

Well, obviously we'd all be standing outside when I do it, I hope.

Well, that would certaintly be very unpleasant - you arent sure whether such a thing would kill the flayers outright, but they would certaintly be injured badly by it. The walls are about a foot thick, and made of stone - certaintly enough to crush most men to a pulp.

Guys, it looks as though I will be leaving ROA after this adventure ends. I am in the process of searching for a new GM, and hopefully (s)he can bring in some new PC's to join you, but in the meantime I will be running the game as normal.

In case you were wondering why everything has slowed down, I'm hoping to have Deepwalker join you in the brain chamber for the next few scenes.

So much for subtltey... And it's not even like Deepwalker has to draw his weapon and attack in the first round of combat lest he drop to last place in Initiative.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:26, Fri 12 Jan 2007.

Well, there was about a 95% chance of a fight breaking out. At least this way you have Deepwalker on your side - say what you will, his melee abilities are pretty impressive.