He smiles at your mentioning getting your fire fury.
"That good to hear that you got it. It's a good name."

After you tell him your plans. he replies with.
"Ok. Sound like you have everything covered. How can I help? Should I try to enchant the chip so that it moves on it's own so that you don't wear yourself out with Watercrafting?"

"If you feel you can reasonably safely do that, sure, but don't strain your magic on this account. It'll be tiring but it's doable with watercraft. And worst case, we drift on the days that I'm too tired to manage it. That plants will need to be harvested as well, if you wouldn't mind doing that after they grow. And otherwise just keeping an eye out for land, and making sure there are no leaks every so often. This will be more of a waiting game till we see land or something we really have to deal with. If you want to practice anything it's a good chance for that as well, which is part of why I'm doing so much with crafting, I'm trying to train my skills."

"Working slowly with blue mana should limit the side effects. SO we are not very likely to explode.
I'll work on those other things too.
Which way should we go? North,south,east or west?"

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Over the next few days you make your garden and Magnus helps harvest the food you grow.
You make your furniture over a few days.
You head in the direction you picked using your watercrafting. It's really tiring and you don't move all that fast. but you feel like you are getting better.

Magnus spends his time carving intricate runes and sigils all over the hull of the boat.

"Let's go north, it's as good as any other random choice." Said with a smile.

I plan to just keep trucking along at a slow pace, happy that I'm getting the chance to use watercrafting, I really do need to improve it. I'll continue this pattern until we see something of note or something goes wrong.

"Well we need to go that way, Unless this world rotates in the opposite direction then we're going south. Which doesn't matter too much."



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Your work with Watercrafting and Woodcrafting help improve your skills with them.

+0@2 Woodcrafting
+0@2 Watercrafting.

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After a week Magnus has carved runes and sigils into everything he can reach without going overboard.

You here him comment to himself "There. That should be enough to control the power."

"Sure is an intricate design, want to turn on the magic tomorrow morning then? Starting it well rested never hurt."

I'm just continuing on, waiting to find land or something else. I don't really have any plans until then. I am curious to observe how Magnus activates a rune structure this intricate, if it requires a central focus or what not.

"Well. It doesn't have any magic yet. You don't want to turn on the power when you have a circuit half formed. Anyway, I'm going to have to add the power slowly if I don't want to risk anything major. Charging it should take about 8 hours... I'll start in the morning. I don't want to keep you of with the glow of magic."

It's starting to get dark at this time so he goes below deck.
In the morning he goes to a spot in the front of the boat with a clear view of where you are going. He's carved a design there that is a weird combination of mystical symbolism and a something reminiscent of a technological control panel. He sit's down there and with his hands on the controls. The runes and lines around him start to glow a vivid blue light. The glow is spreading at a very slow rate.

I assume you go about your business as normal.

By the afternoon the glow has spread to everything he has carved. It flairs up to a blinding brightness for a second and then goes down to a faint glow.The ship starts to move on it's on without ant effort on your part.

He get's up and looks rather tired. He walks over to you.
"Are you curious about magic?"

I whistle in appreciation at the glow when it goes intense and fades. Looks like we're not blown up, which is cool.

"I am, I simply hadn't asked because I wasn't sure it was appropriate to ask questions about something that seems so dangerous currently. I'm assuming the runes around the ship are effectively conduit for the magic to pulse through?"

Edit: As a follow up it occured to me that since Magnus has opened the door to ask questions on magic, asking what I'm most interested in could help moving forward.

"So since you brought it up, I assume it's ok to ask some questions.  What's the major difference between psionics like my furycrafting and Magic? I've been trying to figure out a way with furycraft to accelerate how much rest I get while sleeping, is that possible with Magic and would it be easier or harder to do? I notice that magic seems to have a fair amount of build up time to be safe, so I imagine it's a little trickier to use in combat, but perhaps permanently enchanting a sword or clothing before hand would be helpful. I have a furycraft enhanced cloak that repels water. And are there dangers in melding magically enchanted swords and furycrafted psionic enhancements?"

"Oh, also if you desire I can show you what I know of furycraft. I'm no substitute for the teachers at the academy or a high lords son, but Im not weak in them either."
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"The reason my magic is more dangerous than other magic is because I injured my soul by containing too much power within myself. I'm giving you this information so you don't permanently hurt yourself from doing something ill advised. Anyway, let's sit down. This Will take a bit.

He sit's on the deck of the ship. He thinks for a bit to gather his thought's.

"Ok, I could go into detail about the differences. But that wont help you without a frame of reference. So here is an analogy to help you visualizes it.
Imagine an insanely powerful computer that runs a simulation that models a world in perfect detail. within that simulation are people like you and me. obviously they can't tell they are in a simulation because it is a perfect simulation. Acting within the simulation involves things like technology and using your body to achieve your aims. Magic is using forces outside of the simulation to achieve your objectives. The methods vary. From asking an Administrator to do something for you. To asking an outside hacker to do something for you.  To directly hacking the simulation itself. or gathering up spare bit's of processing power to run your own programs. It's all magic. Psionics are different from magic. Psionics are... Well They are like rules that are built into the simulation that souls or minds can tap into. They work with the simulation instead of punching it in the face to get it to do what you want.


As for your other questions. Generally there is no reason why an item can't be both a Magic item and a Psionic item. Unless you made the powers oppose each other for some reason.

I can't think of a way with just furycrafting besides just increasing your raw stamina with... Metal or earth if I had to guess. Anyway. There are meditative exercises that tap into psionic power that could help. or once you work up to it you might be able to cast a spell to make it like you rested.

As for the build up time until casting. It's dependent on how you envision magic.
Some mages do it like that. others can fire something off but have to recharge afterward. Some can separate the charging and firing stages.

Most versers would tell you figure out these things yourself. I hesitated myself, because what I tell you could limit your conceptual growth in magic."

When you mention teaching furycrafting to him he smirks. "You have already shown me most of it."
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I nod along, listening intently and very interested, trying to both file everything away and let my mind explore all of the possibilities. I've got some in mind already.

"Ok, I think I understand the difference between the two. And that makes sense based on my start in furycrafting,  I do things that I know the furies both have a tendency towards and also that could happen. I could make the wood furies produce arrows by rapidly growing and then shaping, or have them bend into a bow, but I couldn't for example have them turn into a metal sword. It's just not what they do. Magic however wouldn't care that it's not possible and just do it."

"Stretching out my endurance is possible with metalcrafting, including pushing off fatigue. I haven't had the need to do so yet though. Perhaps I'll try meditating as you mentioned, but instead of trying to tap into furycrafting for it I'll try to tap directly into my psionic stores instead. I think ill try that tonight."

"Those alternate time restrictions definitely seem more appropriate for some skills, although I like the idea of crafting magic taking prep work."

"Why would it limit my potential? As long as I keep an open mind that it isn't just the way you mention, but there are others out there, I imagine I'll be ok. But I assume you already came to that conclusion or you wouldn't have brought this up."

"Ah well yes, true."
(I had simply forgotten about that part, my bad. )

"So is there somewhere that I should start with magic? Anything to avoid? The short list of what I'd like to experiment with is:
enchanting clothing to allow it to facilitate furycrafting, say weaving fire essence into the fabric, or any of the fury elements, and boost their power with magic. Effectively making the clothing or a sword a conduit for my crafting.
Short range personal teleportation
Recharging electronics directly, I tried thinking of how to with crafting but the closest I came was electrocuting the device and hoping
Fixing my nearsightedness, I'd love to not have glasses, especially for a primitive world."

"I'm assuming some or all of that are un advisable to start with though. So advice?"

"I wouldn't be so sure of that. Psionics might be able to do that too. Not with Furies though. They definitely can't do that.

That might work, I'm not sure though. I'm not as familiar with psionics as I am with Magic.

Let me share one of the problems I had. Before I couldn't imagine using magic without channeling mana or chi or some other form of energy into the spell. It took being taught an entirely different style of magic for me to figure out that channeling energy into a spell isn't strictly necessary. This is an example of a rut in my thought process. Anyway just be careful with how you think.

Don't worry about it. I tend to do that on my own. I tend to reverse engineer anything interesting that I see. Although Being taught something instead of reverse engineering it on my own might be nice.

Making magic item now isn't a good idea for you now. I'd wait until your confidant in your magic. One I tried to make a item that was beyond my ability to make. It exploded in my face and sent me to my next world. You Might be able to help your crafting temporally with a blessing. Teleportation is possible but would be difficult for you now. I'd would work on something else first. Recharging electronics would require a great deal of fine control over magic. You could do it once you have a bit of experience with magic. Me... I'd probably fry the item on a good day. As for fixing you eyesight. That is doable now. But you might want to subcontract for this. Do you believe in any gods? or one God?"

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"I'll keep an open mind on psionics as well then, looking for areas where I should be applying a raw psionic method rather than through furycrafting. Or from a form I learn in the future."

"I see,  I'll try and keep an eye out for issues like that, although my natural tendency towards exploration and learning should help. I find it hard to pass up on learning another's way or technique, even if I think my way is better. More vantage points is always helpful."

"Well the offer stands, if you would like to be taught any of it as opposed to reverse engineering I'm happy to."

"I'm fairly agnostic actually, I've always thought I'd live a good life and be good to people. If there is a god or multiple gods, that should be enough. But what do you mean subcontract? As in trying to get a god to do it for me instead of doing it myself? If it's all the same I think I'd rather learn the direct approach. So it sounds like starting on my vision is the best idea, does magic word a specific way? I've read lots of fantasy books, some have concepts like the will and the word from the beglariad, where you form your will to what you want, gather power and release it using an appropriate word. Others like those from Elantris used drawing runic patterns in the air, which is fairly similar to the weaving from wheel of time I suppose. My point being there different types I've read about, and I've seen you use runic magic of some kind. Should I pattern it after what you did, or pick one from a book I've read or is there a correct way to do it? If possible, I'd like to follow the precepts of the Belgariad to start, it is one of the ways I'm most familiar with, and it does have a gods, I'd be most ready too follow Aldur, he was a good man in the books. And I realize I just started by saying I'd rather do this without help, but it occurs to me that if I could choose any god, even one from books, there are some I wouldn't mind being follower of. He does after all support learning."

"That would be nice. I'll teach you some basic psionics in exchange.

Sorry Subcontract is my idea of a joke. All holy magic is asking a god to do something for you. For some reason learning how to ask a god to do something for you helps you to learn to do it for yourself. Although it isn't strictly needed. Hmmmm... I need to do some more research into that...

Anyway. Be careful about which god you pick. The more aid they give the more they will expect  out of you. As for me personally. I'm technically a follower of Athena, Goddess of wisdom and Strategy. But I generally just talk to her when I really need advice. I don't call for much aid beyond that.  As for the other Greek gods. They don't like me very much.

I haven't heard of those books before. so I can't comment on their magic or gods. But there is probably a world based on the book... or the book is based on the world. It get's complicated.
anyway those magic systems are probably right somewhere. so there is no reason you can't use them. I actually would Like to hear about them to see if my current version of of the Grand Unifying Theory of Magic can handle explaining them. Which system makes the most sense to you and for what reason compared to the other systems you know about?"

"The will and the word from the Belgariad makes the most sense to me. As far as I remember the concept was one could affect the world around them by forming what they want in their mind, the will, and releasing it with an appropriate phrase, the word. Belgarath, one of the main wizards in the book once taught that an important concept of magic was that it took just as much work as the physical form, it just sometimes allowed you to be in a better position to apply the work. For example, one could push on a boulder and make it move with magic, but it would take a lot of energy, but if one were to exert their magical effort to try and roll the Boulder, it would take much less work. Actually after talking about it, that might be psionic from your explanation before, it does have a lot of similarities to my furycrafting. I think I'll avoid that as my starting place for magic, and perhaps try the magic from the wheel of time. It made sense, although there would have been some issues with a man using it.

See, in that book, there were two sources of power. Saidin and saidar, one was accessible by men and one by women. At some points in the wheel of time though, Saidin was tainted and would drive men who touched it insane. Each source had a different way to touch it, but the method for touching Saidin was to form a picture of a flame inside and focus only on that, pushing all emotion away and allowing for a trance like focused state. This was also used for swordsman to focus in combat. once one was embracing this technique, called the flame and the void, the would embrace Saidin, allowing it to flood them with power. Then a pattern is traced in the air and the power is released and given form. Perhaps I could try that? Although I'd like you to watch over me, I do fear if the taint is there when I touch saidin that it could have some rather strong effects such as causing me to convulse or wretch, depending on how strongly I connect."

"Hmmm... Gather Will and release with a word. It might be Magic or Psionics. If it's psionics then it's a rather strange brand like your Furycrafting. It's rather flexable for a magic system. Conservation of Effort if a rather interesting limitation. It's a good was to make sure the magic doesn't blow up in your face. Hmm... It's rather like Magecraft in the Nasuverse in that regard. Anyway it might be ok as your starting style, But I would think over your other options before you start. You said you are a avid fantasy reader. You should have other ones that you have read besides those two series. I'm not saying this one is bad. it's just that you have time to consider your options.

As for that other style... I wouldn't recommend it. The male side of that power is tainted and will eventually drive men who touch it insane.You described two techniques that can draw power from it relatively safely. But that is relatively safe in the sense that using the power of the Warp from Warhammer is relatively safe. You'll have to be constantly vigilant lest you become tainted by the power you wield. Your's seems milder than the Warp, since it only has some minor physical effects and possibly insanity. As opposed to all that and ripping temporary holes in reality and getting possessed by a Daemons... Again It's up to you if you decide to use it. Theoretically I could punch the insanity out of you. It'll be rather unpleasant and I will probably have to fight a spirit of insanity afterwards... Anyway I don't think it's good as a first style.

What other magic systems come to mind?"

"Hmmm, well a lot of the systems got rules out do to requirements or reliance on physical objects which I wouldn't have access to right now. Just thinking out loud to list them, but Alloymancy from the mistborn trilogy involves injesting and burning precise metal compounds, which each have different effects, from being able to push or pull on other metals to soothing or rioting emotions and so on. But I don't have those metals, and the limitations are fairly strict to what they can do. Ferochemy from the same series allows one to store ones attributes in those metals while wearing them and call on them later. That will be useful, especially being able to store weight or increase weight using my previously stored amonut, but I would need to find an iron bracelet or other piece of iron to use, my sword is steel which is used to store steel. But once again, very limited in applications, even if some are incredibly useful.

Past that there are a number that use incantations and spellbooks, often assisted with wands or staffs, from Dungeons and Dragons wizards to the wizards in the Dresden files to Harry Potter, but none of those sources really go into HOW things are done, just that they are. I suppose I may remember some key words from individual books, but not most that's for sure.

Then there's the stormlight archive, which I remember a lot about the magic system, it's actually based on following the ideals of your order. But I only know 3 of the ideals of one order. Not to mention it's based on absorbing stormlight, a phenomenon of Roshar that has tremendous storms of lightning and wind and also stormlight. The system is rather impossible to use outside of that. Perhaps that's one of the problems, I like books where the magic has a lot of limitations on it's use, it makes for a more interesting read. Perhaps video games are a better source for my first type of magic and then move on to these others at another time, or wait until I land in a world that has a similar type and learn from people who know it?

On the topic of video games, the system I know best would be Final Fantasy's materia system. The general concept is that magic is channeling the life essence of the world, which when concentrated highly enough forms beads of materia. It would probably be easiest if I had one of those beads, but I can probably try something small and slow without one. Perhaps just a basic wind spell to summon up a gust, just to see if I can get it working tapping into this worlds power."

"Wait...Alloymancy? I've been there! oh, I need to figure out how to get back to the Final Empire. Things need to change there. I need to punch the ruling power in the face. I've seen some of the magic there in use and was able to copy it. Haven't used it much because As you said it's hard to find the pure tin need to boost strength. or store it... Anyway, This would be useful to pick up but I wouldn't use it as your primary style.

I'm not that familiar with The Dresden Files or Harry Potter. but they seem fairly standard for fantasy magic. So it probably involves channeling you personal magic into a spell. As for the wand or staff, You can grow one from the boat and I could alter it to make it easier to channel magic though it. You could use it to channel magic without my alteration too.

It's up to you really. I'm a bit biased in this. My early views on magic where influenced by a variety of video games, anime and literature. So I had a fairly broad base to work with.

Ah Final Fantasy 7. That was one of the major influences my view of magic. Hmmm. Now that I think about it, the planet would sic the Weapons on me if I showed up there. Anyway, I've seen something like Materia in my travels. They are gems of pure magical energy that contain the knowledge of a spell or series of spells or a technique. Normally they form in area where the geomancy of the area concentrates the lifestream or other flavor of magic...
Ok here it a bit that will help you out in the long run.
Qi; Chi; Ki; Mana; Lifestream; Quintessence; Aether; Essence: All these are basically the same thing. But different flavors. Use what you got and what it is inclined to do.

Anyway. I could try to make one to help you out. it's rather dangerous for me to try. I might explode or something else unpleasant. or I could make what I call a Pseudomateria out of carbon. it's much weaker but it is easier to make. Up to you which one you want."

"As sad as it is, he really should stay alive. There's a much worse force he's fighting,had he lived just a little longer in the story I read he would have been able to fend off the god for another 1000 years and potentially set things right again. Immortality with a grave responsibility and a god of ruin pressing on his mind  at all times didn't do him any favors. If you do decide to take him out, stick around the well until it fills, it's power must be used up, not released. Ah, but I'm rambling a bit. It's just one of my favorites so I know it quite well, and The Lord rulers death was in some ways one of most catastrophic events in the series. But the world did make it through.

Let's try a little from a Harry potter/Dresden files blend and some pseudomateria. I'd much rather you don't hurt yourself. I think I'd rather have a wand, it's easier to hide even if it can't hide in plan sight as a walking stick."

And with that I go to the rail of the ship, close my eyes and form an image of a wand and urge the wood to grow into its shape and then cut it off.

I heft the stick in my hand, woodcrafting it a little more to make it form a comfortable handgrip and a consistent taper from its hilt to its tip. Then hand it to Magnus. "You said you could enhance it somehow? And what types of psuedomateria can you make? Healing is most important to me, as I struggle with it with furycrafting and until I overcome that I'd like to have a second path."

You grow a wand out of the wood of the ship.

"Huh? god of ruin? Was that the powerful source of energy that I felt at the palace?

Yes. I think I can make general better at channeling magic though it. I Know I can make it great at destruction. Or maybe make it be good to healing... Maybe.

Theoretically I can make a psudomateria for any spell I know. It'll probably explode when you use it if I put something like Ultima into it. Or if I try something too fancy. I got sent into my next world when I tried to make one that produced an energy Chainsword. But that was when I was starting out. I should be ok now. Now to gather the materials for a psudomateria."

He lumbers to his feet and walks over to the rail of the ship. He places his hand on the rail and closes his eyes. You feel the wood furies scream in agony as he uses raw will to force them to do what he wants. He doesn't quite get it right so he ends up just ripping a ball of wood out of the railing.

"Damn. Something's off. it didn't grow. Anyway to make a Psudomateria you need a source of nearly pure carbon. Charcoal work."

He releases the ball of wood and it floats in front of him.

"Destruction of nature, Gather in Flames! Fire!"
The ball bursts into flames. After a second a cold wind blows in and chills you to the bone and gutters out the flame. Leaving a piece of charcoal.
Magnus actually looks surprised at that.
"Huh? Never had that help me out. meh. Any question before I start?"

OOC: I'm sorry for being so slow with this. I've been exhausted from work. and I just have limited energy in general. I'm really Sorry.

"Yeah, the power of the Ruin coalesces ever 1000s years and must be taken up and used, else ruin can exert his influence more forcefully on the world. It's a shaky prison, but prisons for godlike entities are tricky."

"I'd prefer the wand be better at healing. As for the psuedomateria, would something that could create food or water be possible? It would let me practice while being useful and also contributing to our stores."

I cringe as I see his attempts at woodcrafting go wrong, and lay my hand on the wood, working to ease the wood furies pain and comfort them with my own crafting. "You will want to encourage wood furies in the direction you desire, allow them to grow that way. They can't just be forced, or well they can, but it's painful for them and gives you a rougher time. It's much better to open their path and let them grow into the new space."

"Never had what help you before? And no significant questions before we begin other than if I can do anything to help."

Ooc: no need for apologizes.  Real world comes first, and I'm simply grateful that your running the game in whatever spare time you have. If there is anything I can do to help make it easier or more enjoyable for you to run, let me know.

"I have an old injury in my soul that cause me to leak wild magic when I channel magic though myself. I've been trying to avoid aggravating the injury but it's hard to avoid using magic sometimes. Anyway that leaked wild magic causes the backlashes you saw before. Most of the time they don't do anything important or they hurt me. I was intending to cast another spell to put the fire out but the backlash put it out for me.

I'll keep that in mind about Ruin.

Hmmm... Food and water...I haven't tried to make them with magic before. On the one hand that's like a 1st lever DnD spell. On the othere hand, no one said DnD was multiversal in applicability and that would be effectively making matter from nothing. Which while doable is sort of hard. I'll do it after I make a healing pseudomateria. Since I'm not sure if I can make a healing wand.

Well this will take a bit. I'll need to concentrate.."

He sits down in a lotus position and holds the lump of charcoal in his hands. After about ten minutes he cracks the outer layer of charcoal and reveals a spherical gem that is about an inch in diameter.  It sparkles with a white light.

"Haaa... there is the first stage. It's ready to be imprinted with the spell."

"Heh, I thought it was just how you had decided to put out the fire. Has your souls wound been improving? Is there anything I can do to help?

Fair enough, it didn't occur to me that it's making it from nothing, it's just nice to be able to always have access to food and clean water. Healing is a fine place to start, and then with healing materia a destruction based wand would be great. Fills in the different gaps.


Impressive, will it have to be socketed into an item I'm wearing or wielding, or is being on my person enough. Perhaps held? I could work on crafting a wooden bracelet with sockets while you infuse it with a basic healing spell, whichever generic type of healing you feel would be best as a starting point. Either low level gradual generic healing or possibly healing exhaustion. Either of those would be excellent and I imagine a good starting point"

"No. The High energy magic I've been using aggravates it more. After I get you some basics I'm going to stop for a long while. I've been told that the healing will take a long time. Working with souls is a rather delicate process. One that I have a rather hard time doing do to my nature. I would recommend waiting for a bit before you try to work on souls.

It would. It's going to be something I will research now. Give me a few days for the spell.

You should be able to use it by holding it. A real Materia would require such an item but a Pseudomateria has looser requirements but is weaker overall. A socketed item would be useful for you to keep it on-hand without occupying your hands.

Your affinity with wind will help you cast the spell I'm going to put into it. It's a simple one line spell that heals a decent amount for a marginal amount of magical energy.I'll show you after I make the Pseudomateria.

He continues his concentration. Over the next hour the glow shifts from white to green. Once there is no more white glow, Magnus opens his eyes and speaks.
"Haa...There. It is finished."
He gets up.
"I will show you how to use it."
He takes out a Black Dagger and does a shallow cut in his left hand. He doesn't visibly react to this and holds his cut hand up.

"Life's Refreshing Breeze, Heal from the Sky! Cure!"
There is a bit of a light show with white and green light forming around his cut hand then
The cut closes before your eyes.

"So. Do you want to practice with a cut on your hand or do I need to cut my hand again?"

"No need to cut yourself again, I'll cut my hand." and with that I take out my sword and grasp its blade, cutting my hand, focusing on the goal of learning and blocking out the pain.

Once I do that I'll sheathe my sword and extend my hand asking for the psuedomateria, and follow the same incantation to use it "Life's Refreshing Breeze, Heal from the Sky! Cure!" And focus my attention and willpower towards the cut on my hand.

The cut hurts but not as much as it would if you didn't have a purpose behind your actions.
He hands you the cure pseudomateria.

You perform the chant and feel the pseudomateria draw energy out of you that you where not aware of before. It feels like it took nearly half of that type energy within you. On the plus side it completely healed your hand.

"Good job. That was a bit more draining for you than I expected. Your magical energy should recover with rest."

OOC you learned
1@2 Use 'Cure' PsuedoMateria M1@8 Heals RS/10 points of damage to a target within melee range;TF 6 seconds; Chant loudly "Life's Refreshing Breeze, Heal from the Sky! Cure!"; Green and white lightshow;Uses personal Magical energy; +0 SM

You are also aware of roughly how much magical energy you have within yourself.