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OOC Discussion 5.

Posted by GM ArkrimFor group 0
GM Arkrim
GM, 5501 posts
Game Master
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 02:23
  • msg #1

OOC Discussion 5

!!!===IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT===!!!

We have a new character creation thread and rules.

We have streamlined a lot of the process to make sheetwork and rewards easier and faster.

The update will use ONE reward: Battle Points.

You spend BP to buy items, buy levels, buy race points and even buy additional sourcebooks. All rewards and penalties will simply be an amount of BP.

NO MORE SHEETWORK WILL BE ALLOWED FOR ANYONE UNTIL THEY UPDATE TO THE NEW FORMAT (which you submit a sheetwork request to do so).

Everyone will be updated within the next 3 months or REMOVED FROM THE GAME (that's 90+ days, plenty of time).

PLEASE READ OVER THE CHARACTER CREATION THREAD AND LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW THIS WILL ALL WORK.

That is all.

THANK YOU FOR READING. STAY AWESOME!
Brakt
Gladiator, 85 posts
Gnome
Druid 5
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 02:24
  • msg #2

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thanks for the awesome update! :D
GM Arkrim
GM, 5502 posts
Game Master
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 02:29
  • msg #3

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt, feel free to reapply for that new character once you have your old one updated.
Latro Dectus
Gladiator, 739 posts
Human (Shadow's Caress)
Antipaladin 9
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 02:31
  • msg #4

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Woah... this BP stuff is intense. I'm not sure I understand it at the moment. it's going to take a bit of reading to completely grasp this.

Edit: So yeah, i'm lost. How exactly do we determine what our current BP is?
This message was last edited by the player at 03:11, Thu 23 July 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5503 posts
Game Master
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 03:30
  • msg #5

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You don't. The GMs will do all the calculations for you.

Once we have you updated, all you need to do is spend it like a shopping spree.

It will allow you to change out gear and change levels so much more easily. You can even UPGRADE your race if you want by buying alternate racial traits and tacking them on.

And you don't have to sacrifice feats for higher race points either.
Brakt
Gladiator, 87 posts
Gnome
Druid 5
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 03:31
  • msg #6

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Oh wow...

All that work I just did was worthless?  Makes things easier for you guys anyway :)
Van Drake
Gladiator, 190 posts
Human
Gunslinger/Alchemist 7
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 03:36
  • msg #7

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So given that you no longer gain hero points for winning fights or leveling up, I take it Monster Hunts and such are going to cost Battle Points now?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5504 posts
Game Master
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 03:39
  • msg #8

Re: OOC Discussion 5

No, Brakt, we're calculating your new BP based on your existing GP, items and XP. Everyone should start at 300+ since everyone has acquired at least some gp/xp since creation and many of you got at least half the bonus.

No, we'll still have hero points. It just wasn't added to character creation. Hero points are not scheduled to change as of right now.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:40, Thu 23 July 2015.
Latro Dectus
Gladiator, 741 posts
Human (Shadow's Caress)
Antipaladin 9
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 04:02
  • msg #9

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
You don't. The GMs will do all the calculations for you.

Once we have you updated, all you need to do is spend it like a shopping spree.

It will allow you to change out gear and change levels so much more easily. You can even UPGRADE your race if you want by buying alternate racial traits and tacking them on.

And you don't have to sacrifice feats for higher race points either.

Oh, thank goodness. I wasnt ready for another character sheet overhaul after the last one.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5505 posts
Game Master
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 04:40
  • msg #10

Re: OOC Discussion 5

We mostly just need you all to line up in an orderly fashion to receive the update. You don't have to do anything but request it and wait.

And while you're waiting, read up on how it works and learn how to use it.

Most of you will be pleasantly surprised that it not only makes the process easier, it gives you a bit more freedom to tweak your gold/xp/race points.
Ranuth
Gladiator, 123 posts
Vanara
Monk 6
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 04:43
  • msg #11

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Do I have to request a conversion in my pending sheetwork, or is it already on your radar since it's... well, sheetwork?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5506 posts
Game Master
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 04:47
  • msg #12

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If you have sheetwork pending we're going to convert you.

Krumm has already been converted and you're next.

But I'm tired and have a super busy weekend ahead of me so you'll all have to be patient. Learn the system in the meantime.
Ankou
Gladiator, 150 posts
Dwarf
Inquisitor 6
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 07:10
  • msg #13

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I have pending sheet work (mostly buying stuff) ; need I post a new request? Or scrap this one and post a request specifically for the battle point conversion ?
Josep Gavinho
Gladiator, 563 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 08:18
  • msg #14

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I've read through the new character creation thread. Good stuff! Looks like it's going to streamline a lot of things.
 I'm a bit worried about the multiclass stuff though (mostly because I don't have access to the book at the moment) --I have a feeling this is going to tune Josep down a little...
Josep Gavinho
Gladiator, 564 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 08:27
  • msg #15

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
3 guild masters enter.

Each competes to defeat the most monsters wave after wave and puts their very different skills to the test. That sounds awesome!


 While this does sound awesome, I'm not going an other wave-after-wave kind of fight any time soon. It is very time consuming...
Tuong Hsien
Gladiator, 20 posts
Human
Unchained Monk 5
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 08:42
  • msg #16

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Can we include purchase requests in the conversion?
Grunyar Fangblood
Gladiator, 64 posts
Skinwalker (Fanglord)
Summoner 5, Oracle 1
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 13:35
  • msg #17

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I don't think I like the multiclass new rules, thats gonna take some research to see if its worth giving up half my feats for a portion of the class abilities.

The formula
quote:
ADVANCEMENT AND LOOT (house rule)
Winner: (Opponent's BP * 30) / (Your BP) = BP earned (round down, minimum 1)
Draw/Runner Up: (Opponent's BP * 20) / (Your BP) = BP earned (round down, minimum 1)
Loser/Yield: (Opponent's BP * 10) / (Your BP) = BP earned (round down, minimum 1)


Opponent's BP and Your BP is that total earned, or what was spent on charracter (I.E. weapons, race, traits, ...), or how much you currently have?
Ugrim
Gladiator, 400 posts
Orc (Shadow's Caress)
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 14:14
  • msg #18

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Grunyar Fangblood:
I don't think I like the multiclass new rules, thats gonna take some research to see if its worth giving up half my feats for a portion of the class abilities.


I can see the possibilities and how powerful it has the potential to be - primarily with spell casters and those that want some spellcasting ability, but my beef with it is that sometimes you only want to take a dip into a certain class, not progress with it. Like with Ugrim, i took a 1 level dip into the fighter class to gain some extra feats so i wouldn't have to waste feat slots on getting horrible feats so i could get awesome feats. Now, from the looks of things, I would have to use the variant multiclassing system to go fighter and I wouldn't even get the bonus feats from doing so, so what's the point?

Not to mention - how do prestige classes work now? It doesnt seem theres room for things like Arcane Archer or Assassin when using the variant system.

Also also, to quote the character creation thread:
quote:
However, you can have only up to 2 base classes and 1 prestige

This bit of text suggests that normal multi classing rules can still be used from my perspective as this is unchanged from when normal multiclassing rules were in place. Sure using the variant multiclassing rules would cover the 2 base classes side of things but what about the prestige?

also also also - http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classe...ariant-Multiclassing


To summarize - I think variant multiclassing is a cool idea and one that would work pretty good... if it was actually any good. At the expense of half my feats though i think that it is a rarely good idea - especially when what i want from another class isn't even offered by the table presented on the SRD.

However, if the GMs can think of a fair way to let us use our BP to buy back the lost feat from using the variant multiclass system, then i might consider going down that rout with some of my other characters. not with ugrim though. Its a 1 lvl dip into fighter for the feats or bust for him.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:31, Thu 23 July 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5507 posts
Game Master
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 14:48
  • msg #19

Re: OOC Discussion 5

1) If you can't provide a solution, don't complain. Your feelings aren't useful here. Save that for your psychologist.

2) It's about reducing paperwork and making character sheets easier to track.

3) Hypothetically, the only other alternative we had was 1/2 and 1/2 where we follow the same multiclassing rules from 3.5 where if one class is more than 1 higher level than another you take penalties (or in this case, simply not allowed). That would force everyone who was Brawler 5, Barbarian 1 to become Brawler 3, Barbarian 3 and so on and so forth.

"Dipping" itself is the problem. It makes tracking near-impossible. If we had more GMs as dedicated to sheetwork as Sehly and me (at LEAST two more) we MIGHT be able to sustain the normal multiclass. As it is, we cannot. The arena has grown too big and it's STILL growing. That's a good thing, but it comes at a cost.

It's simply a matter of sustainability like it or not.




BP purchasing will allow a lot of new possibilities in the future. We're still exploring more and more as we go.

Oh yeah, and thanks for the link!
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:52, Thu 23 July 2015.
Josep Gavinho
Gladiator, 565 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 14:52
  • msg #20

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Interesting points you make Ugrim, and thanks for the link!

 Right now, it seems that the only way I could keep Josep's features would be to switch him to primary sorcerer and secondary wizard (the opposite of what he is now)

 However, if that's really how we're going to handle multiclass from now on... well I guess I'll get used to it.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5508 posts
Game Master
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 14:54
  • msg #21

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If you guys don't like the new multiclass, you're welcome to offer solutions that will be CONSIDERED, but don't offer complaints or "woe-is-mes".

As it is, no multiclassers have been updated yet.

But you're on a timer to find a solution you're happy with and offer it to us. :P
Ugrim
Gladiator, 401 posts
Orc (Shadow's Caress)
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 15:10
  • msg #22

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
Oh yeah, and thanks for the link!


Senpai noticed me in a good way!!!


But yeah, i see why thats whats up. If i didn't already have three characters I might offer to help with sheet work exclusively as an AGM or something.

Its just unfortunate that I cant take my 1 lvl dips anymore untill the arena is swarming with GMs.

would it be too much to consider using the variant system up to a point? For instance say I went variant system with Ugrim but only wanted the bravery class feature of the fighter class. I would sacrifice my 3rd lvl feat to gain access to that feature but would not need to sacrifice feats henceforth because all i wanted was bravery.

Also, once again, I put forth the possibility of buying back the lost feats as a BP expenditure. Something like lvl the feat was lost x 100 or something?
so a lvl 3 feat lost via the variant multiclass system would cost 300 BP to buy back while a lvl 15 feat lost via the system would cost 1500 bp to buy back. I dont know if thats over powered, underpowered or what cause i dont know whats going on inside those brilliant heads of yours but its a suggestion.

Also, maybe i can put out a call to arms for GMs on another dnd site I frequent and see what happens.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:12, Thu 23 July 2015.
Van Drake
Gladiator, 191 posts
Human
Gunslinger/Alchemist 7
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 15:20
  • msg #23

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey, when did Quick Draw get un-errata'd?
Ugrim
Gladiator, 402 posts
Orc (Shadow's Caress)
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 15:23
  • msg #24

Re: OOC Discussion 5

As it stands, i might have to go Primary fighter secondary barbarian to make any use of Ugrim with the new multi class system.

Also.... how do prestige classes work with the new variant system? Would they just overlay the secondary class when we wanted to start advancing in them, or would we stop progressing in our Primary class to progress in the Prestige class? What if we didn't have a secondary class but qualified for the prestige class and started progressing in it - i know thats a rare case but it happens.
Josep Gavinho
Gladiator, 566 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 15:36
  • msg #25

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I don't think any gladiator has a level in a prestige class.
 It might be easier to just ban them entirely...
 One of the mission paizo set for themselves was to make the base class as interesting and customizable as the prestige class from Dnd; and boy did they succeed. I don't know anyone who uses prestige classes in pathfinder... archetypes and alternate class features are just so versatile...

 GM Arkrim, I'm not sure I understand what makes multiclassing more work for the GM (I'm not saying it's not! just saying I don't see it, probably because I'm not a GM in an arena)

 All in all, I think we can all agree that the "one level dip" is just one interpretation shy of cheating, or at least heavily cheese-optimizing.
 For Josep it's basically saying: this bloodline is cool, I'm going to pretend I'm a sorcerer and then use the powers that go with it to cast my wizard spells. Kinda cheesy.
 Same thing goes with one-level dip in cleric for domain powers, and so forth. The main problem is that these powers do not scale with level --you get the full benefits at first level. If they did, no one would bother dipping one level for a lousy 1st level ability.

 I'm rambling.
Latro Dectus
Gladiator, 746 posts
Human (Shadow's Caress)
Antipaladin 9
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 15:42
  • msg #26

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
I don't think any gladiator has a level in a prestige class.

I was planing to at lvl 11 actually.
Ugrim
Gladiator, 403 posts
Orc (Shadow's Caress)
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 16:04
  • msg #27

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
Same thing goes with one-level dip in cleric for domain powers, and so forth. The main problem is that these powers do not scale with level --you get the full benefits at first level. If they did, no one would bother dipping one level for a lousy 1st level ability.

I think i've seen it stated that when a class refers to level, its actually talking about the levels in the class, not actual character level. But maybe i'm wrong.
Krumm
Gladiator, 190 posts
Human (437 BP)
Bloodrager 6
Thu 23 Jul 2015
at 16:11
  • msg #28

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I know I initially tried to build towards a prestige class with Krumm, but the introduction of the Bloodrager made the Dragon Disciple less favorable given what I was trying to accomplish. I can still see some value in the class - if I were to play a Draconic Sorcerer/Dragon Disciple(possibly with Barbarian thrown in as well), I would have many more spellcasting options. But in game like this where we're less focused on Roleplay, I think some of the draw of prestige classes is lost. Mechanically, many of them are either strictly inferior, or very difficult to balance versus newer classes/Archetypes. It also may that just nobody's figured out why they're awesome.
Ugrim
Gladiator, 404 posts
Orc (Shadow's Caress)
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 00:10
  • msg #29

Re: OOC Discussion 5

On a side note, I'm completely down with the BP system. Gotta say I love the idea that I can level any time I want if I have enough BP to do so or i can just keep racking up the BP for equipment and sourcebooks.
Grunyar Fangblood
Gladiator, 65 posts
Skinwalker (Fanglord)
Summoner 5, Oracle 1
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 00:53
  • msg #30

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
All in all, I think we can all agree that the "one level dip" is just one interpretation shy of cheating, or at least heavily cheese-optimizing.
 For Josep it's basically saying: this bloodline is cool, I'm going to pretend I'm a sorcerer and then use the powers that go with it to cast my wizard spells. Kinda cheesy.
 Same thing goes with one-level dip in cleric for domain powers, and so forth. The main problem is that these powers do not scale with level --you get the full benefits at first level. If they did, no one would bother dipping one level for a lousy 1st level ability.

 I'm rambling.



I may misunderstand you but it sounds like your saying bloodline and domain powers move with charracter lvl I don't think they do.  Only one I have come across is Oracle Curse that specifically states it moves with charracter lvl as well as class lvl (1 to 1 for class, 2 to 1 for charracter lvls not in class)

So if you dip 1 lvl into you only get full 1st level benefits.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5510 posts
Game Master
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 01:13
  • msg #31

Re: OOC Discussion 5

"Dipping" usually is only good for martial characters with some VERY RARE exceptions as Grunyar points out.



But, if EVERYONE hates the multiclassing variant we can do something else but it has to be something EASIER to track. ANYTHING.

We CAN'T keep doing what we've been doing. If someone can think up a better alternative that doesn't force us to track dips so haphazardly, I'm open to listening but I just can't justify tracking ONE level in another class and throwing off the whole format.

Half-and-half would give us a consistent format and so would the multiclassing variant. It's got to be ONE of those two options unless one of you geniuses manages to come up with something at the last minute. I'm open to suggestions.



Ban prestige classes and ONLY allow regular multiclassing? Hmm...well I suppose that is technically less paperwork. I'm not sure if everyone else is happy with that idea.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:14, Fri 24 July 2015.
Bruhli
Gladiator, 141 posts
Suli
Barbarian/Brawler 6
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 01:18
  • msg #32

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
You don't. The GMs will do all the calculations for you.

Once we have you updated, all you need to do is spend it like a shopping spree.

It will allow you to change out gear and change levels so much more easily. You can even UPGRADE your race if you want by buying alternate racial traits and tacking them on.

And you don't have to sacrifice feats for higher race points either.



Bruhli, the feat-starved barbarian, has tears of joy! I'll have to read more into this.
Latro Dectus
Gladiator, 749 posts
Human (SC)
Antipaladin 9
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 01:28
  • msg #33

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
But, if EVERYONE hates the multiclassing variant we can do something else but it has to be something EASIER to track. ANYTHING.

We CAN'T keep doing what we've been doing. If someone can think up a better alternative that doesn't force us to track dips so haphazardly, I'm open to listening but I just can't justify tracking ONE level in another class and throwing off the whole format.

Half-and-half would give us a consistent format and so would the multiclassing variant. It's got to be ONE of those two options unless one of you geniuses manages to come up with something at the last minute. I'm open to suggestions.


What exactly is it that makes tracking a 1 lvl dip difficult. I ask not facetiously but to pinpoint the problem and try and help find a way to resolve it without changing the multiclass system entirely.
Grunyar Fangblood
Gladiator, 66 posts
Skinwalker (Fanglord)
Summoner 5, Oracle 1
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 01:36
  • msg #34

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
3) Hypothetically, the only other alternative we had was 1/2 and 1/2 where we follow the same multiclassing rules from 3.5 where if one class is more than 1 higher level than another you take penalties (or in this case, simply not allowed). That would force everyone who was Brawler 5, Barbarian 1 to become Brawler 3, Barbarian 3 and so on and so forth.


I think there is nothing wrong with 3.5 rules, just means you have to plan your charracter out only issue is pathfinder changed favored class so you don't have class X that doesn't count for multiclassing.

Maybe open a thread "we" could help hash out a table of race to favored class
if that is a viable option.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5512 posts
Game Master
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 03:11
  • msg #35

Re: OOC Discussion 5

This is an open discussion thread.

The tracking difficulty is just that. Tracking different HD, base bonuses, etc. instead of one. Go ahead and build a multiclass character FROM SCRATCH. That is how long the AVERAGE sheetwork request takes.

Some of you CLEARLY haven't comprehended how big of a scale of tracking we're talking here. There are nearly 42 gladiators. If only 1/4 of you are active at a time, that's 10.5 powergamed characters we have to build from scratch each week.

Going back to picking a favored class for a race would not solve the issue as that has nothing to do with tracking reduction.

And we can't homebrew custom hybrid classes, feats, and spells for people using (lots of homebrewing and houseruling and thus doesn't solve tracking issues)




Multiclassing alternatives so far:

Half/Half: You can only multiclass by doing 50% each class.

Unchained Variant: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classe...ariant-Multiclassing

These are the only suggestions that exist for reducing tracking with multiclassing. No one has yet to come up with anything else.

The last thing I can possibly think of is to have a Multiclassing division where multiclassers simply have to sit at the back of the bus while non-multiclassers get VIP access to sheetwork. Which doesn't sound very fair or nice....unless you'd all be okay with that?
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:32, Fri 24 July 2015.
Latro Dectus
Gladiator, 750 posts
Human (SC)
Antipaladin 9
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 03:34
  • msg #36

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
Some of you CLEARLY haven't comprehended how big of a scale of tracking we're talking here. There are nearly 42 gladiators. If only 1/4 of you are active at a time, that's 10.5 powergamed characters we have to build from scratch each week.


Ohhh.... so you guys build us up from scratch every week just to make sure we're still in the right. Yeah, thats a bit of work, i'll admit.

Well, we can give this whole unchained variant system a try I guess. If I don't like it i can always spend BP to retrain myself.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:42, Fri 24 July 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5514 posts
Game Master
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 03:36
  • msg #37

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 36):

And some of you quote us faster than actually read what we just said...
Latro Dectus
Gladiator, 751 posts
Human (SC)
Antipaladin 9
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 03:55
  • msg #38

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Maybe i misinterpreted something? I dont know anymore. I've learned my brain does weird things every so often.

Maybe we should take this to a vote and call it a day cause i'm not smart enough to think of an alternative to the three options Akrim presented.

1) Unchained Variant
2) Half/Half 3.5 way
3) Original way - Non Multiclassers have priority VIP access over multiclassers in sheet work submissions.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:56, Fri 24 July 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5515 posts
Game Master
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 04:05
  • msg #39

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I think that spread is acceptable.

What do you think, Sehly?
GM Sehlysdre
GM, 939 posts
Arbiter
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 04:13
  • msg #40

Re: OOC Discussion 5

That sounds ok to me. As long as the people multiclassing are aware that they may have to wait longer I don't think it should be a problem.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5517 posts
Game Master
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 05:49
  • msg #41

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Okay, so unless anyone has objections, we can keep regular multiclassing you just have to be aware that your wait time for sheetwork is longer if you multiclass. And by longer, it's probably AT LEAST twice the normal wait. So you won't get to "repost" your request just because it's been a long time.




So, for those of you who might want to BRUTALLY EXPLOIT the battle points system, let's lay it all out for you guys:

Level vs. Gold
You can be a higher level with low gold or vice versa (to a point). Gold and levels become exponentially more powerful, so you can't lean one way or the other TOO much or someone will just exploit your weakness pretty easily. But leaning a little one way or the other gives you a lot more customization.

Race Points
No more sacrificing feats to play those cool races you guys want. Just spend a few battle points. And for those of you playing low-RP races, you get some extra BP in your pocket to put elsewhere.

Sheetwork
Because everything is liquidated to battle points, it's easy to track how much you gain and lose. Sheetwork is easier and faster.

Consumables/Ammo
Infinite. That's right, INFINITE. Because battle points assume a POWER LEVEL of a character, any consumable you have is assumed to be purchased over and over again. So you have it in every battle without having to constantly delete it from your character sheet and re-adding it. One quiver of 20 arrows will allow you to shoot 20 arrow every battle for the rest of your character's career. One potion of Bulls' Strength will allow the character to drink that potion over and over again once every battle forever. Careful though. You have an item limit, so even with infinite re-usability, you have only 20 items, regardless of your carrying capacity. You must choose carefully.

Who Got Nerfed?
We usually try to avoid intentionally nerfing people, but two types of players are nerfed just a bit by this update.

1) Book spammers: Yes, you're being charged BP to use Pathfinder sourcebooks. The more books you use, the more BP you have to spend to get access. We know the "most broken" abilities aren't broken at all. They're combined from different sourcebooks that were written separately, and we recognize the advantage this gives players who simply have more books and are willing to argue over "intent" more than other players. Because this puts more work and effort on everybody AND because it is a rules exploit, this is why it's costing BP. The LESS books you use, the cheaper this is (free if you only use core, DMG and/or bestiary 1).

2) Minion masters: We have a HD cap on minions. 4 x your level is the maximum HD worth of minions you can have a time. Where nobody has exploited this yet, not even our summoners, it was a loophole we didn't want anyone to hop through. Nor do we want someone spamming the diceroller any more than our summoners already have. 8 minions each with 1/2 your HD is enough for anybody.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:11, Fri 24 July 2015.
Josep Gavinho
Gladiator, 567 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 06:39
  • msg #42

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm totally fine with having to wait more for sheetwork if I'm multi classing. I think it's actually a nice reward for those who keep things simple.

I definitely agree with you, Arkrim, regarding things that are deemed broken. They're usually only broken because we break them by using them in conjunction with something else. I'm actually anxious about by BP bill for sourcebooks...
Brakt
Gladiator, 88 posts
Gnome
Druid 5
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 06:56
  • msg #43

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm not seriously optimized by any stretch of imagination, but I've got 7 source books not including core :\

I think I might rebuild after the update though, my druid isn't able to do what I wanted him to do yet, and won't for a very long time.  After I get level 9 spells... We'll see then :P


5300 BP to jump to level 18, that's actually not as bad as I expected it to be :)
GM Arkrim
GM, 5518 posts
Game Master
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 07:26
  • msg #44

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah, if you have 7 books and aren't in the top tier ranking here, you're definitely not "optimized".

Even the most powergamey of the powergamed here are only 7-9 books.

If your "BP bill" is too high, you can always give up a sourcebook. If you have, SOMEHOW, already "overspent", you'll be allowed to retain what you have but listed at a higher BP than you actually are as a result (and you can just buy back your overspending by dueling some more to catch up).
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:28, Fri 24 July 2015.
Josep Gavinho
Gladiator, 568 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 07:41
  • msg #45

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I just checked, I'm using 12 sourcebooks outside of core...

 Although quite a few of them are for spells that I never use (I definitely wouldn't have gotten those if I knew I'd have to pay extra for it ;)

 Once I know how much I ended up paying in BP for sourcebooks, I'll probably post a sheetwork to erase some spells or swicth some feats...

 This is definitely a game-changer, it's great! Keeps us evolving.
Ghavakus Hatestabber
Gladiator, 72 posts
Goblin (Shadow's Caress)
Magus 5
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 08:23
  • msg #46

Re: OOC Discussion 5

This is going to be painful, I don't even know how many source books I am using over all 3 characters.... Also if alternate class's are now archetypes I will need to rebuild Thumock....
Josep Gavinho
Gladiator, 570 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 08:33
  • msg #47

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Aren't there archetypes for alternate classes? Like Sword Saint for Samurai?
Thumock
Gladiator, 87 posts
Gnoll (Shadow's Caress)
Samurai 6
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 08:52
  • msg #48

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah and that is what Thumock is but...

quote:
Unchained and alternate classes are their own archetypes.

GM Arkrim
GM, 5520 posts
Game Master
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 16:32
  • msg #49

Re: OOC Discussion 5

That should read "have" their own archetypes. That's a typo.

Meaning that they are separate entities.

Samurai has ONE archetype built for SAMURAI: sword saint. That's fine.

However, Samurai couldn't take the Daring Champion or Beast Rider archetypes because those are for Cavaliers, not Samurai.

Even though ninja is CLOSE to rogue, samurai is CLOSE to cavalier, they are SEPARATE CLASSES.

Unchained are NEW classes that are CLOSE to their previous ones but NOT the same.

Some MAY be able to use each others archetypes and others may not. OFFICIAL supplements for doing so have not been released. Sehly and I can authorize the ones that make sense, but going through and looking at them takes time and we're busy with the BP update. So for those of you who want to combo them, you're just going to have to be patient and get over it. SOMEDAY but not today.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:35, Fri 24 July 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
Gladiator, 69 posts
Skinwalker (Fanglord)
Summoner 5, Oracle 1
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 18:47
  • msg #50

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Totally off topic

While we wait for upgrade anyone want to do a monster match Brakt and Lekol's match looks fun.

But let's go with only a certain type of monster say CR 7 total only outsiders or only magical beasts?

@ GM if we bet should we do it in BP and would max BP be 1* character lvl beings 1 BP = 100 gp/xp. Or 2* beings gp/xp are now wrapped into BP?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5525 posts
Game Master
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 19:26
  • msg #51

Re: OOC Discussion 5

No new matches for anyone who hasn't updated. Sorry guys.
GM Sehlysdre
GM, 944 posts
Arbiter
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 19:50
  • msg #52

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm planning on working on getting as many updates as I can done tonight after work. I'll primarily work on the multiclass people, as those take a bit longer to do.

One thing I could use is any suggestions on how to make the skills section easier for the multiclass characters.

At the moment I'm using something like this:

quote:
SKILLS
 + 8 Bluff                     = 6 ranks + 2 cha
 +10 Craft (Basketweaving)     = 6 ranks + 1 int + 3 class
 +10 Knowledge (Religion)      = 6 ranks + 1 int + 3 class
 + 7 Perform (Dance)           = 5 ranks + 2 cha
 +12 Perception                = 5 ranks + 4 wis + 3 class
 + 9 Swim                      = 5 ranks + 2 str + 3 class - 1 ACP
 Skills  : 6/3 = 4 ranger/2 cleric + 1 int + 1 favored
 Language: Common, Elven, Celestial


(Assuming that character is Rgr 5/Clr 1)

But I really need a better way to show the split of how many skills each class gets, in an easy to reference way, that doesn't take up a lot of space.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:06, Fri 24 July 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5526 posts
Game Master
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 21:17
  • msg #53

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah, I don't know. That's one of many reasons I DON'T like it.

I suppose you could use * to denote that the skill is only a skill for one class while non * are for both classes (or vice versa).

The higher level class would always be primary and the dip would always be secondary.
Latro Dectus
Gladiator, 752 posts
Human (SC)
Antipaladin 9
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 21:33
  • msg #54

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So with the new BP system, how should we go about donating to our guilds?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5527 posts
Game Master
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 21:57
  • msg #55

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I don't know if we can refund people but if not, I guess we'll split it evenly among the guild (with a bonus for the guildmaster who paid to build it).

We haven't fleshed out the details but we're going to make guild level based on TEAM victories instead. So for every X victories your guild has over another guild in a team match its goes up a level. But we haven't fleshed it out yet. That's just what's currently in the idea bank.

So yeah, guildies are about to get a BP boost once the update is done we'll start working on that.




BTW because we're charging for sourcebooks, some of you have "overspent" your BP by just a bit.

If you're overspent, your BP will be highlighted red on your character sheet.

You can still continue to play as normal, you just can't use your hero points until your BP total catches up with your BP spent.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:43, Sat 25 July 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5528 posts
Game Master
Fri 24 Jul 2015
at 22:39
  • msg #56

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Bruhli:
- 19:20, Today: Bruhli rolled 3 using 1d20+2 with rolls of 1. Bruhli attacks with Bruhli; Ranged Touch Attack v. Ario. (Includes -4 from Ario’s attack)
- 19:22, Today: Bruhli rolled 2 using 1d3 with rolls of 2. Random square that Bruhli falls in F3 = 1, G3 = 2, G4 = 3.
- 19:28, Today: Bruhli rolled 12 using 1d20+9 with rolls of 3. Acrobatics to reduce falling .
- 19:29, Today: Bruhli rolled 14 using 4d6 with rolls of 1,2,5,6. Falling dmg.


I'm literally crying tears of hilarity reading the Ario vs. Bruhli match. I mean...the dice gods are really pulling a fast one tonight...
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:48, Sat 25 July 2015.
Bruhli
Gladiator, 144 posts
Suli
Barbarian/Brawler 6
Sat 25 Jul 2015
at 01:22
  • msg #57

Re: OOC Discussion 5

At least someone feels my pain. I must have offended somebody.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:24, Sat 25 July 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5531 posts
Game Master
Sat 25 Jul 2015
at 01:54
  • msg #58

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Latro Dectus
995 Battle Points, 753 posts
Human (995 BP)
Antipaladin 9
Sat 25 Jul 2015
at 14:45
  • msg #59

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Now that all my characters are converted to battle points whos looking for a fight?!?!
Madam Opal
346 Battle Points, 451 posts
Ratfolk (346 BP)
Witch 6
Sat 25 Jul 2015
at 14:46
  • msg #60

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Also looking to go toe to toe with someone as well! (My BP is in the red so i kinda need fights now. :P)
This message was last edited by the player at 14:57, Sat 25 July 2015.
Haran Madar
550 Battle Points, 192 posts
Human (550 BP)
Sorcerer 6
Sat 25 Jul 2015
at 17:31
  • msg #61

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Madam Opal! I've been converted to the bp system as well. It's been awhile since our last fight. You and I aren't the level 5 pushovers we once were. How about a match between old friends?
Madam Opal
346 Battle Points, 452 posts
Ratfolk (346 BP)
Witch 6
Sat 25 Jul 2015
at 19:57
  • msg #62

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Haran Madar:
Madam Opal! I've been converted to the bp system as well. It's been awhile since our last fight. You and I aren't the level 5 pushovers we once were. How about a match between old friends?


Yeah! Now I'm a lvl 6 pushover!
Let's do it!
Madam Opal
346 Battle Points, 455 posts
Ratfolk (346 BP)
Witch 6
Sun 26 Jul 2015
at 02:32
  • msg #63

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Challenge is up
Hiro
1,375 Battle Points, 902 posts
Dwarf (1,375 BP)
Monk 11
Sun 26 Jul 2015
at 13:54
  • msg #64

Re: OOC Discussion 5

PM to GM
GM Arkrim
GM, 5534 posts
Game Master
Sun 26 Jul 2015
at 17:24
  • msg #65

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You can just send us actual PMs for THAT stuff Hiro. *eye roll*
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 903 posts
Dwarf (1,680 BP)
Monk 11
Sun 26 Jul 2015
at 17:57
  • msg #66

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sorry, I was up too late last night playing video games with a friend trying to recapture our lost youth.

Spoiler alert: It still got away. Result: Impaired brain function.
Thraxis
452 Battle Points, 97 posts
Half-orc (452 BP)
Summoner 6
Sun 26 Jul 2015
at 18:30
  • msg #67

Re: OOC Discussion 5

With the new system, this seems more worthwhile, and if it's fun we can try it again in a few levels.

Thraxis would challenge Hiro:


Map: Small Colosseum
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: Plains
Walls: Standard masonry
Extras: Neither gladiator may attack the other directly.  Hiro wins if all summons are dead and Thraxis is unable to summon anymore.  Thraxis wins if his summons take Hiro down.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5535 posts
Game Master
Sun 26 Jul 2015
at 18:58
  • msg #68

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yep, you stand to win a lot more when challenging higher level opponents. More reward for the risk (since statistically higher levels beat lower levels).

On the other hand, there's also less incentive to beat up lower levels, since you get so little reward but risk possibly taking a loss on the leaderboard.

So the competitive risk/reward decisions are much stronger. People need to think carefully before challenging or accepting a challenge.
Thraxis
452 Battle Points, 98 posts
Half-orc (452 BP)
Summoner 6
Sun 26 Jul 2015
at 19:11
  • msg #69

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Are our BP comparisons for earnings from a fight done by total amassed, or total spent.  For example, if Thraxis is a 300 spent of 450 earned BP, and Hiro is a 1000 spent of 1600 earned, are we looking at 300/1000 or 450/1600 ratios?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5536 posts
Game Master
Sun 26 Jul 2015
at 19:21
  • msg #70

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Total amassed. So simply NOT spending them is not efficient. Because you can swap out gold at NO trade loss now, it's not even efficient to save up for items. Even levels ups aren't useful to wait for. You can just sacrifice items to level up and then rebuy those items once you've accumulated a sufficient amount again. There's no excuse not to spend all your BP other than to intentionally handicap yourself for some personal sense of pride.

But a lot of people are going through a transition. You may have spare BP lying around due to your build. You'll want to wait a week and buy stuff before challenging people. Unless you like going into a fight half-cocked...
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:26, Sun 26 July 2015.
Thraxis
452 Battle Points, 99 posts
Half-orc (452 BP)
Summoner 6
Sun 26 Jul 2015
at 19:59
  • msg #71

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I may be willing to go into some fights half-cocked, but definitely not a fight with Hiro.  I'll hold off for my week and get Thraxis fixed up for the new system.  Would that update cost me 1% of total BP, or would it be considered part of the transition to the new system?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5537 posts
Game Master
Sun 26 Jul 2015
at 20:13
  • msg #72

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I know everyone's transitioning, but as long as you don't spam the sheetwork thread more than 1/week we'll hold off on the "one sheetwork per one duel" for your 1st sheetwork after conversion is done.

So one freebie for everyone but you have to wait patiently for it or we will actually charge the fee.
Grunyar Fangblood
Gladiator, 70 posts
Skinwalker (Fanglord)
Summoner 5, Oracle 1
Sun 26 Jul 2015
at 23:24
  • msg #73

Re: OOC Discussion 5

While patiently waiting upgrade I've been doing some looking around at diffrent builds I have seen more than once Barbarians with immune to fatigue so they can rage more than once in a battle.  Guess I always assumed that being immune to effect still gave you the condition just no ill effects of the condition and rage says you can not reenter while fatigued.  Also if you are able to jump in and out of rage like that the second drop out of rage would be exhausted true or false?


Any thoughts?
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 904 posts
Dwarf (1,680 BP)
Monk 11
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 02:55
  • msg #74

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Is that really an issue? Starting at level 5 you should have at least 12 rounds of rage, potentially more if you have a con modifier (which you should... y'know - barbarian :P)

How many arena matches last more than 12 rounds?
Ugrim
Gladiator, 405 posts
Orc [SC] (789 BP)
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 03:02
  • msg #75

Re: OOC Discussion 5

It's more the concept of Rage Cycling, jumping in and out of rage to use rage powers that can only be used once during a rage.

Personally, i think immunity is immunity, plain and simple. If your immune to it, it doesn't effect you and thereby is not attached to you unless otherwise specified. (Like some spells or class features that point out as such.)
Of corse, i'm the barbarian that's planing on performing Rage Cycling here sooner or later so i'm biased. :P
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 460 posts
Ratfolk (359 BP)
Witch 6
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 03:08
  • msg #76

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So I found this in the errata thread while trying to look over all the new rules and changes with the new BP system:

quote:
Racial Spells (class feature): Any spell normally designed specifically for a race can be used by other races but they take up a spell slot 1 level higher when utilized by other races.


Does this mean that they are learned at the same spell level but must be prepared as a level higher or that the must be learned at 1 level higher that normal?
Bruhli
Gladiator, 150 posts
Suli
Barbarian/Brawler 6
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 03:10
  • msg #77

Re: OOC Discussion 5

As an unbiased character, I agree with Ugrim. Immunity to fatigue means you can't become fatigued. Rage cycling is a legitimate strategy. That's part of the reason the unchained barbarian is as it is, to prevent rage cycling.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5539 posts
Game Master
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 03:27
  • msg #78

Re: OOC Discussion 5

1) Bloodrager/paladin who uses lay on hands with the (fatigue) mercy as a swift action to cure fatigue on themselves. Done.

2) No, Opal, why would you even think that? It works exactly as normal for spells. Cleric 4, Bard 3 spells mean the cleric gets it as a 4th level spell and the bard gets it as a 3rd level. Works the same way...who quotes the answer to their own question BEFORE they ask the question? *facepalm*
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:36, Mon 27 July 2015.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 96 posts
Gnome (361 BP)
Druid 5
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 03:31
  • msg #79

Re: OOC Discussion 5

This match is keeping me on the edge of my seat... I really don't know who's going to win.

Arkrim, I liked your answer before you edited it :(
This message was last edited by the player at 03:32, Mon 27 July 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5540 posts
Game Master
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 03:35
  • msg #80

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Brakt (msg # 79):

I like being cheeky and sarcastic, but I do know that I have to tone it down at least some.

I shouldn't call people names or assume everyone is that name.

I'm an angry person trying to be a nice one. It is difficult.
Grunyar Fangblood
Gladiator, 71 posts
Skinwalker (Fanglord)
Summoner 5, Oracle 1
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 03:39
  • msg #81

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lol I have yet to see that combo, will have to look at it.  When I read the rage cycling builds it just struck me as broken, figured I'd drop a line in here see as a few ragers around and see if arena had a ruling already in place or I just over looked an official ruling in the forums.  Thanks.
Lekol
Gladiator, 189 posts
Human
Ranger 5, Fighter 1
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 03:51
  • msg #82

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Dice roller dosen't start acting right I'll have to change tactics or your going to win Brakt.
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 461 posts
Ratfolk (359 BP)
Witch 6
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 03:52
  • msg #83

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
2) No, Opal, why would you even think that? It works exactly as normal for spells. Cleric 4, Bard 3 spells mean the cleric gets it as a 4th level spell and the bard gets it as a 3rd level. Works the same way...who quotes the answer to their own question BEFORE they ask the question? *facepalm*


It just seemed counter intuitive to take a spell you have to prepare 1 lvl higher at a lvl you don't have that spell slots of that lvl for yet. It made more sense in my mind to say that a spell caster of the non-qualifying race had to learn the spell 1 lvl higher than normal as opposed to the alternative of picking it up and waiting until your next spell level to start throwing it around or buy a scroll of it once you actually had the spell levels to cast it. It ultimately works the same way beyond having the DC increased by 1 and having to sacrifice a higher level spell to cast a lower level spell.

but thats just how my brain f**s stuff up when i'm sleep deprived. Poses things as questions even though the answer is already right there in my face. Some people consider it idiocy, i consider it coving my bases and preventing idiocy.

but i'm just rambling now and i honestly dont know if i'm making sense to myself anymore so I'll just leave it where this is.

actually... what would happen if a ratfolk decided to cast a goblin racial spell from a scroll and beyond the fact that its a racial spell, met all the prerequisites for casting the spell? Could she still cast that spell from the scroll as normal or would she actually have to have the spell slots 1 lvl higher than the spell on the scroll to cast the spell?
This is pretty relevant to me actually cause my one spell from a scroll I have lying around in my pockets is a racial spell. and currently meets the criteria described.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:56, Mon 27 July 2015.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 97 posts
Gnome (361 BP)
Druid 5
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 03:56
  • msg #84

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Oh, you're looking at like a Sorcerer casting it....

Just learn the spell when you have a spellslots to cast it? :\
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 462 posts
Ratfolk (359 BP)
Witch 6
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 04:13
  • msg #85

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Nah, more like a wizard or a witch. you know, those spell casters that have to choose what their spells are the moment they level and continue to only gain more [powerful spells leaving the option of using one of your new spells learned every level on a lower level spell almost silly.

Sorcerers and bards haveit easy becuase they get to pick up spells from all over the place as they level so its not too much of an issue for them.

Likewise for clerics and druids (and paladins and rangers). They always have access to every spell on their spell list forever. Its just a matter of which spell they want to prepare that day.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 99 posts
Gnome (361 BP)
Druid 5
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 04:15
  • msg #86

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Uhh...

You do know Wizard's and Witches can just buy new spells, yeah?
At least, I was always under the understanding the could as long as there was a wizard willing to teach them.  Everything else is for sale in this Arena, so why not spells as well?

Sorry... I talk a lot when I feel like people are paying attention, if you want me to shush I'll shush :P
This message was last edited by the player at 04:24, Mon 27 July 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5541 posts
Game Master
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 04:26
  • msg #87

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Madam Opal (msg # 83):

RAW states you can't cast it at all. I ruled you can at no penalty before, now I'm ruling the penalty is 1 spell level higher. Get over it.

And get some sleep. Sleep deprivation can cause permanent brain damage!


In reply to Brakt (msg # 86):

quote:
Spellcasting: You must list your spells known if you have a limited amount and you must list your spells prepared for the day if you prepare them. You'll prepare 1 default spell list on your character sheet. You must declare ALL prepared spells during your first post in a match or be forced to use the default list. You cannot truly learn spells from scrolls and other such items but you are treated as knowing them so long as you have at least one such item in your equipment. You lose the spell known if you lose the item. NO EXCEPTIONS!

This message was last edited by the GM at 04:26, Mon 27 July 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
Gladiator, 72 posts
Skinwalker (Fanglord)
Summoner 5, Oracle 1
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 04:42
  • msg #88

Re: OOC Discussion 5

With the new INFINITE consumables as long as you cast the spell before using scroll that should be a non issue right?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5542 posts
Game Master
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 05:00
  • msg #89

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 88):

CORRECT! You're essentially trading an item slot (we limit you to 20 now) for a new spell (and a battle point or two or twenty depending on how expensive that scroll/potion is).

So much easier to work with. No more buying staple potions and scrolls over and over.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:01, Mon 27 July 2015.
Josep Gavinho
Gladiator, 572 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 14:32
  • msg #90

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I have 2 questions regarding recent changes to the house rules:

Level-Variable Effects:
Level variable effects are dice rolls that increase or decrease based on level such as fireball damage. Non-dice rolls are not "level variable" for these purposes.

 I'm not sure what this means for spells such as Magic Missile, or Scorching Ray. They add more projectiles/rays based on level increase (not a straightforward dice/level). Does this mean that they are not affected by Spell Specialization?
 http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/...spell-specialization

Spells (class feature):
Any class feature that alters spells or spellcasting in any way, only affects spells from that class, unless exclusively noted otherwise (such as with mystic theurge). For example, a sorcerer's bloodline elemental bloodline that adds +1 to damage per damage die for elemental spells of their type would only apply to sorcerer spells and a bloodrager's bloodline would only apply to bloodrager spells.

 Well I guess it's not as much a question as a silent sobbing... I suppose it's part of the rules to prevent one-level-dip abuse, and it makes sense. Even if it's going to seriously cramp on Josep's style...
 Ah, I remember my question: does this apply to alternate multiclassing too?
 IE, if we get access to a class feature from a secondary class (through the expenditure of feats), and thus do not get access to the actual spells tied to that secondary class, can the class feature affect spellcasting from your primary class?

 Sorry if these questions mean more work for you... I don't need or expect an answer right now, take time to consider it.
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 463 posts
Ratfolk (359 BP)
Witch 6
Mon 27 Jul 2015
at 22:58
  • msg #91

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
In reply to Madam Opal (msg # 83):
Sleep deprivation can cause permanent brain damage!


Too late! :P
GM Arkrim
GM, 5543 posts
Game Master
Tue 28 Jul 2015
at 02:17
  • msg #92

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 90):

Except that those particular errata AREN'T recent updates...unless you consider 6-12 months ago recent.

Also, I got to be honest, I don't remember the level variable thing. I believe it was supposed to ensure you never cast ABOVE your caster level and that you could only adjust variable modifiers such as the dice rolls themselves, but never range/area/# of targets/duration/etc.

The other one I recently added the sorcerer and bloodrager examples, but it's actually been there a while. I just moved it up from general magic section to class feature section since it was specifically mentioning class features.

Your questions are vague and nonspecific. I can't help you unless you have a specific example. But you're better off asking during your next sheetwork request. I really can't help you in OOC.
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 905 posts
Dwarf (1,680 BP)
Monk 11
Tue 28 Jul 2015
at 14:43
  • msg #93

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Latro and Josep, are you two still interested in a monster hunt?
Josep Gavinho
Gladiator, 573 posts
Human (740 BP)
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Tue 28 Jul 2015
at 15:18
  • msg #94

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yep ! Though right now I'm one big fat cheat, I just realized. As soon as I can get my sheet work done though, I'm willing to fight an ancient wyrm.
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 906 posts
Dwarf (1,680 BP)
Monk 11
Tue 28 Jul 2015
at 15:23
  • msg #95

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Somehow I think fighting something with Timestop probably isn't a good idea :P
Latro Dectus
995 Battle Points, 754 posts
Human (995 BP)
Antipaladin 9
Wed 29 Jul 2015
at 02:11
  • msg #96

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
Somehow I think fighting something with Timestop probably isn't a good idea :P

dont worry, timestop is banned from the arena... i think.

but yes, let us face something as one
GM Arkrim
GM, 5544 posts
Game Master
Wed 29 Jul 2015
at 03:00
  • msg #97

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 96):

Time stop is not banned. But you also can't affect other creatures during a time stop. It's extremely limited. It's really only good for buff-casters or for escaping/getting around places where teleport doesn't work.
Latro Dectus
995 Battle Points, 755 posts
Human (995 BP)
Antipaladin 9
Wed 29 Jul 2015
at 04:05
  • msg #98

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 96):

Time stop is not banned. But you also can't affect other creatures during a time stop. It's extremely limited. It's really only good for buff-casters or for escaping/getting around places where teleport doesn't work.

Oh. I thought i saw it said somewhere time stop was banned. Well then, thats good to know. :P
Van Drake
629 Battle Points, 193 posts
Human (629 BP)
Gunslinger/Alchemist 7
Wed 29 Jul 2015
at 21:14
  • msg #99

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Just to make sure

Sheetwork thread post #1:
EACH sheetwork request allows you to do ONE of the following:
  • Level up
  • Purchase/craft up to 5 items*
  • Sell up to 5 items*
  • Join a guild
  • Build a new character
  • Retrain an existing character
  • Request up to 5 corrections**


Does this still hold true, given that you're now restricted to 1 sheetwork per match?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5548 posts
Game Master
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 01:14
  • msg #100

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yes and No.

Due to BP, all of those things will merge into ONE thing...except corrections, new characters and joining a guild which will have no time restrictions other than 1/week and the normal limits. (max 3 characters, guild joining costs, etc.)

Which is one of the MANY perks of the BP system as you will soon be able to tell.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5550 posts
Game Master
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 02:51
  • msg #101

Re: OOC Discussion 5

FYI, some new errata came out recently...

http://paizo.com/products/btpy...-Advanced-Race-Guide

Apparently this is a big deal for those of you who play Pathfinder with favored class bonuses other than HP and skill ranks.

They dramatically reduced a lot of the ratios.

Also increased the prices of some items from that book.

Just giving you guys a heads up.
Van Drake
629 Battle Points, 194 posts
Human (629 BP)
Gunslinger/Alchemist 7
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 06:00
  • msg #102

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Alright another question

When you remake a character, it says it works "just like your RTJ". Does that mean open sheet access?
Latro Dectus
986 Battle Points, 757 posts
Human (986 BP)
Antipaladin 9
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 06:03
  • msg #103

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If i'm selling items, does that mean that my overall BP is going to go down because i'm not getting the full amount spent back?

Example i spend 2 BP to get 200 gold and spend it on Potion X
I decide later on that having Potion X around isn't useful to me anymore and sell to get back 100 gp and thus, 1 BP, meaning my overall BP goes down by 1.

Is that correct thinking?
This message was last edited by the player at 06:38, Thu 30 July 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5552 posts
Game Master
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 06:20
  • msg #104

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Van Drake: Yes.

@Latro: No. You merely change WHAT you spend the BP on. You don't lose anything for selling items. You're just trading one BP worth of something for that same BP worth of another. It's that simple.

@Crafters: And if you craft the item, you get it for half price and have a * by it noting that it is listed at cost instead of price. Very useful, but not totally broken since you're limited to 20 items regardless of your carrying capacity or wealth. The only exception is ammo, which you can have as much as you want of any ONE type if you can carry it and afford it. Different types count as different item slots.
Latro Dectus
986 Battle Points, 758 posts
Human (986 BP)
Antipaladin 9
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 06:28
  • msg #105

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
@Latro: No. You merely change WHAT you spend the BP on. You don't lose anything for selling items. You're just trading one BP worth of something for that same BP worth of another. It's that simple.


Le gasp. Thats amazing. I love this new system. 10 out of 10 would platonically date.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:37, Thu 30 July 2015.
Panian
Gladiator, 78 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 09:20
  • msg #106

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Has anyone ever tried to make a character with NPC classes for supreme amounts of Fun™? The concept of playing with such a handicap like that would yield interesting results...
GM Arkrim
GM, 5553 posts
Game Master
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 13:18
  • msg #107

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Take the Leadership feat and get a cohort. They will have that handicap. :P
Josep Gavinho
740 Battle Points, 575 posts
Human (740 BP)
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 13:37
  • msg #108

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Then find someone to do the same and have them fight ;)
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 907 posts
Dwarf (1,680 BP)
Monk 11
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 13:47
  • msg #109

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 108):

Pathfinder does Pokemon?
Josep Gavinho
740 Battle Points, 577 posts
Human (740 BP)
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 13:51
  • msg #110

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I always thought of summoners and their eidolons as trainers and pokemon. I'm sure that was at least part of the inspiration behind it. They called it eidolon to sound posh, but they're really pokemon.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5554 posts
Game Master
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 14:14
  • msg #111

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho
740 Battle Points, 578 posts
Human (740 BP)
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 16:30
  • msg #112

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I just realized I cannot retrain until I've gone through a PvP.

 Who's up?

 Know that I will be a lot easier to beat with the changes to some of the houserules...
Ugrim
789 Battle Points, 406 posts
Orc [SC] (789 BP)
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 19:02
  • msg #113

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 112):

I'll take you on. Just as long as there's no flying involved. ;P
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 908 posts
Dwarf (1,680 BP)
Monk 11
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 19:17
  • msg #114

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You two want to go 2v1? Surely the two of you together can take out Hiro :)

How is 2v1 BP calculated? Are the BP's of the two characters added together before calculations?
Josep Gavinho
740 Battle Points, 579 posts
Human (740 BP)
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 21:52
  • msg #115

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 2v1 sounds good!
 Any condition?
Panian
Gladiator, 79 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 21:56
  • msg #116

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 115):

You guys should fight on ice. With ice skates. It'd be super fun to watch.
Ario
327 Battle Points, 74 posts
Human (327 BP)
Unchained Rogue 6
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 22:02
  • msg #117

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ario is up for a fight.
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 909 posts
Dwarf (1,680 BP)
Monk 11
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 22:34
  • msg #118

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 115):

Small Arena?
Josep Gavinho
740 Battle Points, 580 posts
Human (740 BP)
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 30 Jul 2015
at 22:46
  • msg #119

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Small colosseum, random everything, no extra.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5556 posts
Game Master
Fri 31 Jul 2015
at 04:15
  • msg #120

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
You two want to go 2v1? Surely the two of you together can take out Hiro :)

How is 2v1 BP calculated? Are the BP's of the two characters added together before calculations?

Total BP.

789 + 740 = 1529 vs. 1680

An almost even match. Small advantage to Hiro by 151 BP (about 9% higher power level).
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:18, Fri 31 July 2015.
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 910 posts
Dwarf (1,680 BP)
Monk 11
Fri 31 Jul 2015
at 04:42
  • msg #121

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 120):

Well, since Hiro is currently underbuilt by about 300 RP, they might actually have an advantage :)
GM Arkrim
GM, 5557 posts
Game Master
Fri 31 Jul 2015
at 04:55
  • msg #122

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Bah, that's your fault.

If you would all be patient, you'll all get a free rebuild once everyone is transferred over.

We JUST put those points in your account and less than a week later you're ready to spend it all and some of you are so impatient you're already spending them like they're going out of style. I mean, it's your choice, your points, but dang guys...

*sigh*

C'est la vie.

I still love this arena. Wouldn't trade you crazy fools for any others.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 80 posts
Human (381 BP)
Fighter 5
Fri 31 Jul 2015
at 05:19
  • msg #123

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I have a question. On my sheet it shows abilities costing 25bp, which resulted in a 25 point buy. If more BP is spent, could someone buy a larger point buy for character creation?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5558 posts
Game Master
Fri 31 Jul 2015
at 05:33
  • msg #124

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian:
I have a question. On my sheet it shows abilities costing 25bp, which resulted in a 25 point buy. If more BP is spent, could someone buy a larger point buy for character creation?

Pick one option:

Option 1: Pay 1% of your BP to get that question answered by a GM.

Option 2: Read the Character Creation thread. Then, following rudimentary logic, assume that if it says you can do that, you can do it and if it doesn't say you can do that, you can't do it.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 81 posts
Human (381 BP)
Fighter 5
Fri 31 Jul 2015
at 07:59
  • msg #125

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In that case, I will take option 2. Sorry for the dumb question
Josep Gavinho
740 Battle Points, 581 posts
Human (740 BP)
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Fri 31 Jul 2015
at 09:51
  • msg #126

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Ugrim, you ok with those terms?

 If it's any consolation, Josep is some 60BP underbuilt, and has a good share of BP in redundant equipment... not to mention illegal class features which I will not use during the game.
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 911 posts
Dwarf (1,680 BP)
Monk 11
Fri 31 Jul 2015
at 13:04
  • msg #127

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 126):

Lol. Terms work fine for me... I too have some redundant equipment I can't wait to drop!
Josep Gavinho
740 Battle Points, 582 posts
Human (740 BP)
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Fri 31 Jul 2015
at 13:47
  • msg #128

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 If it's the Belt you're talking about, I'd be happy to take it off you hands ;)
Ugrim
789 Battle Points, 407 posts
Orc [SC] (789 BP)
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Fri 31 Jul 2015
at 15:30
  • msg #129

Re: OOC Discussion 5

fun fact: Ugrim is Also underbuilt by a solid 100or so BP.

But yes, I think'm ok with those conditions.
2v1 Hiro vs Ugrim and Joseph.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5560 posts
Game Master
Sat 1 Aug 2015
at 01:03
  • msg #130

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Panian (msg # 125):

I'm sorry, that was rude of me. But I'm trying to make a point. It's going to be far more convenient for you to read it yourself, but if you absolutely don't want to or can't find it, you can PM a GM, pay 1% BP and we will advise you on something. Even character builds or new feats or whatever you need. Just try to reserve it. 1% won't break the bank but it adds up over time.



ANNOUNCEMENT
Since we updated to battle points, no one needs to declare anything at the end of a match except forer than alignment and hero points!

You buy your consumable once, and you have it in EVERY match until you swap out it's BP value for something else. SO FREAK'N EASY!

Yay!!!
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:10, Sat 01 Aug 2015.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 82 posts
Human (381 BP)
Fighter 5
Sat 1 Aug 2015
at 01:09
  • msg #131

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 130):

It's cool. I was curious about why there was a 25BP charge near my abilities and thought maybe BP could have been spent on stat buy but I should have figured that because it didn't explicitly say you could, you couldn't.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5561 posts
Game Master
Sat 1 Aug 2015
at 01:17
  • msg #132

Re: OOC Discussion 5

The 25 from the abilities is already calculated into everything.

The cap on BP for abilities is 25, but you COULD hypothetically spend LESS.

But to AVOID that complication, we just started everyone with 25 and left it at that. No reason to have people start with less. Inevitably they would've spent more on it anyway. Ability boosts are just too valuable to do otherwise.

Once you're at 300+ BP, are you really going to drop your ability scores 2-6 points just for another 1 or 2 thousand gold? Pssh no way! The +2 ability score items cost 4,000 a pop. It would be counter intuitive to do that. So why even bother with having that as an option?

Make sense?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5565 posts
Game Master
Sat 1 Aug 2015
at 02:20
  • msg #133

Re: OOC Discussion 5



ANNOUNCEMENT 1: DECLARATIONS
Since we updated to battle points, no one needs to declare anything at the end of a match except for alignment and hero points used (say 0 if you used 0)!

You don't need to declare consumables. You just buy your consumable once, and you have it in EVERY match until you swap out it's BP value for something else. SO FREAK'N EASY!

Yay!!!



ANNOUNCEMENT 2: BP DEBT
ALSO, for anyone whose BP is listed as RED on their character sheet, you have spent more BP than you have to spend. You are in BP debt.

You will not be allowed any sheetwork requests of any kind whatsoever until you duel enough battles to get your BP back into a positive state and pay off your BP debt OR you willingly lose items/levels/sourcebooks to get your BP back to where it should be.



ANNOUNCEMENT 3: CHARACTER DELETIONS
This is the end of the month. The remaining characters who have not updated to the BP system have 2 more months to get to the sheetwork thread and transfer over before they are deleted! If you know someone here who hasn't transferred yet and they aren't paying attention to the OOC, you might want to let them know. PM them, Rmail them, text them, e-mail them, ring their doorbell and borrow a cup of sugar; do what you need to to spread the word! THANKS EVERYONE!




That is all! BATTLE ON!
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:31, Sat 01 Aug 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
414 Battle Points, 78 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner/Oracle 6
Sat 1 Aug 2015
at 02:35
  • msg #134

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I like this new system, the infinite consumbles and if I understand it correctly I can cut a few unneeded potions plus unspent BP and lvl up twice.

Can you jump two lvl in one sheetwork request or only one at a time?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5566 posts
Game Master
Sat 1 Aug 2015
at 02:38
  • msg #135

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 134):

The only limit is your maximum battle points!

And yes, you can use the consumable over and over because it represents a small degree of power. Inevitably, with your item limit, you will want BETTER consumables instead of more, but it makes it super easy and convenient!

I like it too! It's SO much easier on us GMs and SO much more flexible for you guys, the players!
Van Drake
629 Battle Points, 195 posts
Human (629 BP)
Gunslinger/Alchemist 7
Sat 1 Aug 2015
at 05:00
  • msg #136

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So does requesting banned material require a proposal for alteration, or do you just ask for the GMs to make something?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5567 posts
Game Master
Sat 1 Aug 2015
at 08:21
  • msg #137

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Van Drake (msg # 136):

It requires a sheetwork request. But you'll be charged 1% BP for requesting it, even if your request is denied or requested after a match (and you cannot combine it with another request). However, if we feel the request was particularly sensible and fair and within the balance, spirit and intent of the game, we'll waive the fee and possibly even add it to your character sheet without the need for more sheetwork. But that's entirely up to GM discretion.

The fee is just to discourage outlandish requests, repetitive requests or multiple requests at once that would just waste our time.

For example, requesting that an effect ignore any of our house rules would be outlandish and contrary to the spirit of the game, no matter what the exception was. House rules exist to plug holes in an existing system (or add flavor for typical adventure games) and trying to get around them is completely contrary to the purpose in having that system at all. And thus, that would be a ridiculous request.
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:22, Sat 01 Aug 2015.
Ario
327 Battle Points, 75 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Sat 1 Aug 2015
at 21:46
  • msg #138

Re: OOC Discussion 5


quote:
   SUMMARY: Hiro moves toward Josep and summons a fire elemental


At first I thought I read the Hiro/Josep parts backward.
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 915 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Sat 1 Aug 2015
at 22:21
  • msg #139

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I've gotta keep people on their toes :P
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 472 posts
Ratfolk
Witch 6
Sat 1 Aug 2015
at 22:39
  • msg #140

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm correct in thinking that we can't post a sheetwork correction post in the sheetwork thread while in a match, right?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5568 posts
Game Master
Sat 1 Aug 2015
at 22:59
  • msg #141

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Magic items...the great equalizer.

Kinda sad when you think about it. The only way for non-casters to keep up with casters is to buy magic from other casters and use it against them...

Conceptually, this literally makes the game itself just admit to the fact that casters are powerful, it's just balanced by proxy of economics. LOL.




Opal. Correct. Unless you're patient and wait for your freebie rework, you'll be paying BP to do sheetwork other than corrections.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5569 posts
Game Master
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 00:02
  • msg #142

Re: OOC Discussion 5

22 Gladiators updated!

So, I think we have enough people transferred over to start passing out those free retrainings to anyone who wants them.

However, I still encourage everyone to encourage other gladiators to transfer as quickly as possible. We are now in August. Anyone not transferred by the end of September will be deleted. Don't let your fellow gladiators go down because they forgot! Especially if they're your guild members. We have a great update for guilds once everyone is transferred over (but we can't do it until EVERYONE is transferred).
Grunyar Fangblood
414 Battle Points, 81 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner/Oracle 6
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 01:19
  • msg #143

Re: OOC Discussion 5

is that free retrain as in no hero point, no 1% penalty or both?
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 759 posts
Human
Antipaladin 9
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 01:57
  • msg #144

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Can we still do that retrain if our BP is in the red? Cause i can fix up that red BP amount really quick with a retrain by pawing off a few duplicate items.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:59, Sun 02 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5570 posts
Game Master
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 02:29
  • msg #145

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 143):

FREE: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/free?s=t


In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 144):
GM Arkrim:
ANNOUNCEMENT 2: BP DEBT
ALSO, for anyone whose BP is listed as RED on their character sheet, you have spent more BP than you have to spend. You are in BP debt.

You will not be allowed any sheetwork requests of any kind whatsoever until you duel enough battles to get your BP back into a positive state and pay off your BP debt OR you willingly lose items/levels/sourcebooks to get your BP back to where it should be.

This message was last edited by the GM at 02:31, Sun 02 Aug 2015.
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 760 posts
Human
Antipaladin 9
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 02:55
  • msg #146

Re: OOC Discussion 5


GM Arkrim:
OR you willingly lose items/levels/sourcebooks to get your BP back to where it should be.


So should those of us in BP debt issue a standard Sheetwork request with the usual 1% bp fee if applicable to designate our items/levels/sourcebooks for purging?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5571 posts
Game Master
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 03:11
  • msg #147

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 146):

FREE: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/free?s=t
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 761 posts
Human
Antipaladin 9
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 03:19
  • msg #148

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 147):

Fair enough
Ario
427 Battle Points, 77 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 03:27
  • msg #149

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Who's got two thumbs and is spoiling for a fight?

(Hint: Not Bob Kelso.)
GM Arkrim
GM, 5572 posts
Game Master
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 04:08
  • msg #150

Re: OOC Discussion 5

It's ONE free retraining folks. Don't post in the sheetwork thread after your transfer to the battle point system unless you're ready to use it.
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 763 posts
Human
Antipaladin 9
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 05:01
  • msg #151

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ario:
Who's got two thumbs and is spoiling for a fight?

(Hint: Not Bob Kelso.)

FIGHT ME!!!

TUONG HSIEN - FIGHT ME!

BOTH OF YOU FIGHT ME AT THE SAME TIME!!! I need your delicious BP rewards!!!
This message was last edited by the player at 05:16, Sun 02 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5573 posts
Game Master
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 05:32
  • msg #152

Re: OOC Discussion 5

And for those who still haven't figured out how BP works:

retraining = sheetwork request

If you request a retraining but don't list what changes you want, you will WASTE IT. No one gets access to their sheet anymore. Asking for it is a waste of your BP.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:35, Sun 02 Aug 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
414 Battle Points, 83 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner/Oracle 6
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 05:36
  • msg #153

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Some of us (I) are slow or over thinkers thanks for not smacking a foul on for that.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5574 posts
Game Master
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 05:37
  • msg #154

Re: OOC Discussion 5

No, for now I'm just smacking talk.

I'm honorbound to be lenient when new rules are installed for at least a month. Grrrr. Cerberus does not like this leash...
Grunyar Fangblood
414 Battle Points, 84 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner/Oracle 6
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 05:40
  • msg #155

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lol, just saw "new" Hercules with the Dwayne Johnson, I like how they worked him in.

Guess should say how they worked Cerberus in.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:04, Sun 02 Aug 2015.
Tuong Hsien
353 Battle Points, 23 posts
Human
Unchained Monk 5
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 05:53
  • msg #156

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If Ario is up for it, I'll join him.
Ario
427 Battle Points, 78 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 05:57
  • msg #157

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Arkrim, When requesting a major (or full) character change, would providing the entire sheet in the request message (so you can just copy-paste the whole thing in one shot) be acceptable in lieu of listing every change individually?

How is:

Tuong and Ario vs Latro
 Map: Small Colliseum
 Lighting: Normal
 Terrain: Plains
 Walls: Normal
 Extras: Latro forfeits at the end of round 2 none

Would someone mind being an 'environment volunteer' for this match?
Van Drake
629 Battle Points, 197 posts
Human (629 BP)
Gunslinger/Alchemist 7
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 05:58
  • msg #158

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I had a thing typed out here, but Ario asked my question way more succinctly than I would have. Thanks for saving me time.
Grunyar Fangblood
414 Battle Points, 85 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner/Oracle 6
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 06:06
  • msg #159

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I can be your all seeing eye Ario if it is needed I'm always lurking around here some where :)
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 764 posts
Human
Antipaladin 9
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 06:49
  • msg #160

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ario:
Terrain: Plains

hmmm.... i'm watching you.....

but yeah, sure, lets go for it. I need BP. you need BP. We all need BP
GM Arkrim
GM, 5575 posts
Game Master
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 07:05
  • msg #161

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Ario (msg # 157):
quote:
Use CHARACTER DETAILS to fill out your character sheet, then let a GM know when you're ready to be approved (note rule #6). DO NOT alter the format and DO NOT ever message your sheet to anyone (use the Character Details section). You cannot compete until approved. Don't forget a character portrait and description for bonus points!


Just ask for the changes you need in as few words as possible. If it's a particularly complex change, leave a line that can be copy/pasted (usually this will only be needed for minions or for changing classes/skills).

It's not rocket science. Just don't be a total idiot or jerk and I promise it will work out.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 83 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 13:32
  • msg #162

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
The 25 from the abilities is already calculated into everything.

The cap on BP for abilities is 25, but you COULD hypothetically spend LESS.

But to AVOID that complication, we just started everyone with 25 and left it at that. No reason to have people start with less. Inevitably they would've spent more on it anyway. Ability boosts are just too valuable to do otherwise.

Once you're at 300+ BP, are you really going to drop your ability scores 2-6 points just for another 1 or 2 thousand gold? Pssh no way! The +2 ability score items cost 4,000 a pop. It would be counter intuitive to do that. So why even bother with having that as an option?

Make sense?


That makes sense. Is it unreasonable to suggest that perhaps (with maybe a cost of 2-5BP per point) spending BP for stat buy could be a thing?
Grunyar Fangblood
414 Battle Points, 87 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner/Oracle 6
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 14:40
  • msg #163

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Panian (msg # 162):

That would make + Ability score items worthless @ 2-5 BP (200gp - 500gp) a point.

Now a slightly better balance would be 15-20 BP per 1 point buy point so if your raising a dump stat from 9 to 13 it is slightly cheaper than an item however raising a main stat would cost you more but you are trading the extra cost for an item slot.

Not that I'm on board with it just offering a better balance in my opinion.
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 765 posts
Human
Antipaladin 9
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 15:39
  • msg #164

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Assuming you operated on the basic rules for point buy and you rose all your base stats to 18 before racial modifiers (Starting from base stat 10), you would need to spend 102 bpor 10,200 gp in equivalent gear. Which is comparatively nothing to what you need to spend to get items to raise those stats magically. A +6 Item of stat boosting is 180 bp, or 18,000 gp. Simply put, buying up your stats with BP is way overpowered. Not to mention i think thats why they put a hard limit on how many points players can use to buy stats with the point buy system in the first place. ;P
Panian
381 Battle Points, 84 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 15:41
  • msg #165

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 164):

What I intended was, say, 5BP per point for the point buy system. A simple bump from 17 to 18 (before racials) is 5 points in the calculator which would be roughly 25BP, equating to 2500gp. Doing that for other stats would raise the cost more, obviously. Perhaps a higher cost per point in the calculator, or just toss out the idea altogether. That'd probably be easiest.
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 767 posts
Human
Antipaladin 9
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 15:46
  • msg #166

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian:
or just toss out the idea altogether.

I like the way you think. ;P

In all seriousness though, if i could raise stats just by throwing BP at it, i would do it. But the concept is too over powered and would be too much work for the GMs to keep track of. I know i wouldn't want to keep track of how much BP i've spent on raising my base stats beyond the standard 25 point buy. Too much room for confusion.


We're just waiting on the Hiro doppleganger Tuong to post in the challenge thread at this point. lets get this match going so i can kill you and get my BP already!!! >:D
Panian
381 Battle Points, 85 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 16:04
  • msg #167

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 166):

A limitation like only being able to spend the BP for point buy during creation would be the easy answer to people just throwing BP at stats
Ranuth
374 Battle Points, 125 posts
Vanara
Monk 6
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 16:10
  • msg #168

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I am ready for a fight. Who wants to do this?
Bruhli
566 Battle Points, 152 posts
Suli
Barbarian/Brawler 6
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 17:55
  • msg #169

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'll fight you. Apparently Bruhli is very beatable :P
Panian
381 Battle Points, 86 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 17:58
  • msg #170

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You guys wanna make it a three way?
Bruhli
566 Battle Points, 153 posts
Suli
Barbarian/Brawler 6
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 18:02
  • msg #171

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'd be down for that.

How about Small Forest? Standard everything else?
This message was last edited by the player at 19:27, Sun 02 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5576 posts
Game Master
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 23:11
  • msg #172

Re: OOC Discussion 5

With the new updates, everyone will need to read over the rules MORE carefully.

I've already watched a handful of players throw away some of their battle points simply because they didn't pay attention to what they were doing.

I've tried minimizing the penalties, but I will not always be so lenient. New rules are only "new" for so long. Please be careful guys.

Normally you're limited to changing only 5 things at a time, but I'm forgoing that ONLY for these free rebuilds. After that, people are going to have to be more careful and methodical.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:15, Mon 03 Aug 2015.
Tinny Tina
629 Battle Points, 198 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 23:34
  • msg #173

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So who wants to have a fight?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5577 posts
Game Master
Sun 2 Aug 2015
at 23:46
  • msg #174

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Oh look, it's the Training Dummy's cousin.

Looks like someone is enjoying the new Battle Points for Race Points conversion rate. :P
Tinny Tina
629 Battle Points, 199 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Mon 3 Aug 2015
at 00:44
  • msg #175

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hell yeah, BP->RP owns. There are some seriously great races/racial traits out there, and it's doesn't cost you a whole lot to grab them. Like Drow is only 4 RP more than Elf, and unless you really need the Int bonus Drow will be better most of the time (just make sure to get a concession from your opponent if they want to fight in bright light).

Speaking of the Training Dummy, have you given any thought to new costs for sparring sessions?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5579 posts
Game Master
Mon 3 Aug 2015
at 01:10
  • msg #176

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Not yet. Still making lots of conversions. Although, I'm leaning towards 1% BP.

1% isn't much, but it can add up over time. If someone with 550 BP, did sheetwork 5 times, got 2 sparring matches and committed 3 minor violations, that'd add up to about 50 BP loss (assuming they didn't gain any in that time frame). That's easily an awesome magic item or possibly another level lost just from that. So it still encourages people to be careful about how often they adjust their sheets and how carefully they submit their sheetwork requests.



Also, for those who haven't noticed yet, all crafting rules have been thrown away (except prerequisites of course). You either CAN craft it taking 10 on the d20 or you can't. Crafting is 1/2 price. Period. No other alterations to these calculations will be allowed. Getting an item for 1/2 BP cost is great for those of you who tend to spend more on magic items than on character level. Don't do it too much though. At some point you do actually need base bonuses and hit points and higher level spells.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:21, Mon 03 Aug 2015.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 87 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 3 Aug 2015
at 02:13
  • msg #177

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Bruhli:
I'd be down for that.

How about Small Forest? Standard everything else?


Nah. I'm partial to standard everything. Or we could Bar Fight.
Bruhli
566 Battle Points, 154 posts
Suli
Barbarian/Brawler 6
Mon 3 Aug 2015
at 02:22
  • msg #178

Re: OOC Discussion 5

quote:
MONSTROUS BATTLE ROYAL (3-4 FFA PvPvE)
This functions as a normal Battle Royal, except the GM puts a monster in the center of the map to participate as well. The monster's CR is equal to the APL of the other players +1d6, to provide a challenge and an incentive to work together, at least until the monster is defeated.


Ah man!!! When was this added?! Ranuth? Panian? Do you guys want to have a fight to remember?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:25, Mon 03 Aug 2015.
Ranuth
374 Battle Points, 126 posts
Vanara
Monk 6
Mon 3 Aug 2015
at 02:25
  • msg #179

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Let's Do It!
Panian
381 Battle Points, 88 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 3 Aug 2015
at 02:25
  • msg #180

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Use up the Monk's Ki and the Barbarian's rage rounds? I don't see why not...
Bruhli
566 Battle Points, 155 posts
Suli
Barbarian/Brawler 6
Mon 3 Aug 2015
at 02:28
  • msg #181

Re: OOC Discussion 5

This is good! GM Arkrim and GM Sehlysdre, I know for regular monster matches we have to spend hero points. Is it the same for this? I don't see it in the text, but I wanted to check before I get too excited about this.


Actually, I tell you what guys, let's not do the PvPvE just yet. I see that another monster hunt is in the works; and having two at once could be a lot. I am fine with a regular battle royale or to fight one of you 1v1.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:24, Mon 03 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5580 posts
Game Master
Mon 3 Aug 2015
at 03:25
  • msg #182

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yes, and no. Its costs 1 hero point per player to do a monster hunt but you also get +1 hero point for battle royal so it cancels out. The winner just walks away with 1 hero point and the others don't.

So essentially, everyone's doing a battle royal but they're sacrificing their 1 hero point reward to add a monster to it instead (more battle point rewards instead of more hero points).

So it's fun, but also very difficult. Remember, that monster will focus fire whoever hits it most/first/closest. So, to win that match you want to be wary about how you play. If everyone is TOO cautious, they may actually lose to the monster and if everyone is TOO cooperative, the ranged/slow characters get an advantage for letting it hit the other guys more/first.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:37, Mon 03 Aug 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
410 Battle Points, 88 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner 7
Mon 3 Aug 2015
at 05:21
  • msg #183

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If you want another for battle Royal or I'll take on the one left out if you do 1v1 I'm free
Maelstrom
717 Battle Points, 233 posts
Human
Monk 8
Mon 3 Aug 2015
at 18:15
  • msg #184

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Wait a minute, it's one sheet work per PvP? Does this mean Maelstrom's gonna have to get out of his armchair and fight somebody?

I guess I can take on anyone who is level 8 or below. If you level 5 or so, I wouldn't mind taking on two of you guys. But be warned! t'll likely be a long fight because Maelstrom's dpr ain't that great.
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 917 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Mon 3 Aug 2015
at 20:20
  • msg #185

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Maelstrom:
But be warned! t'll likely be a long fight because Maelstrom's dpr ain't that great.

He's a GREAT disappointment to his teacher...

Back when Hiro was 8 he was already doing 85 damage/turn *shakes his cane*

I kid, I kid...

but one of these days I'm gonna whip you into shape :)
Maelstrom
717 Battle Points, 234 posts
Human
Monk 8
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 02:55
  • msg #186

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I won't let you down Master Hiro! I just need to find an opponent! Once I hit level 9, perhaps we can have a sparing match. And then I'll learn all your tricks, up close and personal (and likely another defeat)!
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 108 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 03:54
  • msg #187

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Once Lekol and I finish this Pokemon match, I'll be happy to fight anyone.  I need to see if I can actually fight yet :D
GM Arkrim
GM, 5585 posts
Game Master
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 12:02
  • msg #188

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So, monster hunters, you know it costs you hero points to choose stuff about the map you want, right?

Lighting, walls, terrain, map, etc.

You don't get to choose ANY of those things. They're ALL random/determined by monster environment unless you pony up the hero points to choose otherwise.

For all you know it might be PITCH DARK or BLINDINGLY BRIGHT or the walls might be made of EXPLOSIVE ANTI-HUMANOID PROJECTILES... unless you're willing to sacrifice more hero points to customize the map.

Which you'll need to declare before posting a challenge.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:09, Tue 04 Aug 2015.
Thraxis
452 Battle Points, 107 posts
Half-orc (452 BP)
Summoner 6
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 12:13
  • msg #189

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I knew the map cost us hero points, but did not realize the rest did as well.  Could you change the entire thing to random for us?
This message was last edited by the player at 12:50, Tue 04 Aug 2015.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 89 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 12:13
  • msg #190

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt:
Once Lekol and I finish this Pokemon match, I'll be happy to fight anyone.  I need to see if I can actually fight yet :D


You retrained as a fighter? I wouldn't mind seeing your build in action!
Grunyar Fangblood
410 Battle Points, 89 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner 7
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 12:17
  • msg #191

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Maelstrom, I will duel you if you would like.  I need somd BPs :)
Ankou
373 Battle Points, 179 posts
Dwarf
Inquisitor 6
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 12:33
  • msg #192

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I didn't realize the lighting/terrain was random as well, but I don't mind at all.
 We will resubmit if it makes things easier for you.
Thraxis
452 Battle Points, 108 posts
Half-orc (452 BP)
Summoner 6
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 12:49
  • msg #193

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Is this a change to the previous way things were run do to the BP system?

I had looked through all the other monster hunts in the current challenge thread before posting this one (as it's my first monster hunt and I wanted to get it right).  The rules thread just says 'map' and other than Hiro and Latro's first, they all just have the map randomized and everything else is defined by the players (Standard, Plains, Standard masonry for each of them), and one of them explicitly said that they were only paying 3 hero points for 3 players on a challengeing map, which should have apparently cost 6.
Maelstrom
717 Battle Points, 235 posts
Human
Monk 8
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 18:25
  • msg #194

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 191):

Okay Grunyar! Let's do this! Any map preferences?
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 771 posts
Human
Antipaladin 9
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 19:25
  • msg #195

Re: OOC Discussion 5

A note to all currently guildless players:
I invite you all to join my guild of evil and chaos - Shadow's Caress.

Apparently the GMs have some big plans for guilds in the future and I'll bet you don't want to miss out! All classes that are free to be chaotic, evil, or a combination thereof are all welcomed into Shadow's Caress at no fee until the end of September!
Take advantage of this most assuredly wicked offer and join the best guild in the arena! (Also the most underrepresented. I need friends...)

(Also when is a self righteous paladin going to found an opposing guild and call it Light's Embrace?)
This message was last edited by the player at 19:26, Tue 04 Aug 2015.
Josep Gavinho
740 Battle Points, 593 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 19:34
  • msg #196

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Not many good-aligned gladiators I fear!
Good spellcasters are welcome in the Thaumaturgical Alliance though.
As are chaotic, evil, lawful, and my personal favourite, the True Neutrals.
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 920 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 19:38
  • msg #197

Re: OOC Discussion 5

And for all of you Lawful and True Neutral characters who are martially inclined, the School of the Voiceless Dragon (The ONLY guild to boast an arena champion) is looking for some new pupils!

Hiro will be happy to give you tips and tricks that got him to where he is now! Join up!
Grunyar Fangblood
410 Battle Points, 91 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner 7
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 19:41
  • msg #198

Re: OOC Discussion 5

No map preferences Maelstrom, hows this?

Map: Random
Lighting: Random
Terrain: Random
Walls: Random
Extras: none

If you want can do spell combat.
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 772 posts
Human
Antipaladin 9
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 21:37
  • msg #199

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
The ONLY guild to boast an arena champion

 Not for long. ;)
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 921 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 23:13
  • msg #200

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 199):

I've heard that song and dance before... :)
Panian
381 Battle Points, 90 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 23:20
  • msg #201

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm going to be starting a guild for good fighters once I get veteran status. Anyone wanna help me get there?~ I'll take on literally everyone, even if it means I lose turn 1.
Bruhli
566 Battle Points, 156 posts
Suli
Barbarian/Brawler 6
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 23:37
  • msg #202

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Why not? I'll take you on.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 109 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Tue 4 Aug 2015
at 23:41
  • msg #203

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Let's say I got some inspiration from Hiro.

I screwed up though, I'm missing a feat because I wanted to use the Unchained Variant Multiclass system but couldn't.

Yes, I'm one of those people who actually liked the new MC system they tried to introduce before everyone complained lol
Maelstrom
717 Battle Points, 236 posts
Human
Monk 8
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 00:19
  • msg #204

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Grunyar Fangblood:
No map preferences Maelstrom, hows this?

Map: Random
Lighting: Random
Terrain: Random
Walls: Random
Extras: none

If you want can do spell combat.


Random everything? Yeah, I'm not going to leave those things up to our creative GMs. This will be my concession, I'll agree to random map, but standard everything else, plus maybe spellcombat 2 rounds.

Map: Random
Lighting: Random
Terrain: Random
Walls: Random
Extras: Spellcombat (2 prep rounds)
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 922 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 02:56
  • msg #205

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ugrim, I take comfort in knowing that you're technically dead too :)
Ugrim
775 Battle Points, 417 posts
Orc [SC] (789 BP)
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 02:59
  • msg #206

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
Ugrim, I take comfort in knowing that you're technically dead too :)

I'm only dead when my HP is -22. There's no technically about it. I'm very much alive. you on the otherhand are very much unconscious.
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 923 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 03:00
  • msg #207

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Ugrim (msg # 206):

Ahhh, but the second your rage ends you die, unless you heal up :)
Ugrim
775 Battle Points, 418 posts
Orc [SC] (789 BP)
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 03:09
  • msg #208

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Hiro (msg # 207):

Good thing I've got a solid minute and a half (aprox) left to live then! the clerics should not take that long to get into the arena to heal us up... then again ugrim has superstition which means he's making a save vs all magical effects while raging - even the beneficial ones. :P

so ok, yeah, you got me there for the most part. ;P
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 924 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 03:21
  • msg #209

Re: OOC Discussion 5

The take-away here is that cowardly flying bastards get to live through this crap :P
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 112 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 06:23
  • msg #210

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well... Getting someone down to 1HP just feels ripped off lol
Josep Gavinho
740 Battle Points, 595 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 08:13
  • msg #211

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt:
Let's say I got some inspiration from Hiro.

I screwed up though, I'm missing a feat because I wanted to use the Unchained Variant Multiclass system but couldn't.

Yes, I'm one of those people who actually liked the new MC system they tried to introduce before everyone complained lol


 I actually like it too, and plan on using it unless that's not an option any more.

 @Hiro: I promise, when I fight you for the belt, there won't be any flying involved;)
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 113 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 08:25
  • msg #212

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Josep

I tried on my latest sheetwork and got knocked back, so probably a no go.  Just so you know :(
Josep Gavinho
740 Battle Points, 596 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 09:27
  • msg #213

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Thanks for the head's up!
 That's too bad, I kinda liked the sorcerer/wizard combo.
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 926 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 14:17
  • msg #214

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt:
Well... Getting someone down to 1HP just feels ripped off lol


Eh, it's totally my own fault for going into the fight half-assed. I should have activated my Pummeling style round 1, but didn't because I knew I was going to lose going in :P Besides, he doesn't have 1 HP left, he has -21 hitpoints left :P

Although... do barbarians have to roll to stabilize when they're at negative HP, even though they can continue to act? Maybe he'll bleed out!!!
Josep Gavinho
740 Battle Points, 597 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 14:28
  • msg #215

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I think his combo automatically stabilizes.
 Your Elemental's misfortune did not help....
Ugrim
775 Battle Points, 420 posts
Orc [SC]
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 14:58
  • msg #216

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
I think his combo automatically stabilizes.


Correct. :)
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 477 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 14:59
  • msg #217

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm correct in assuming that i cant post sheetwork corrections mid match, right?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5586 posts
Game Master
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 23:25
  • msg #218

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You are INCORRECT. Submitting sheetwork during a match of any kind will get you a major violation really quick. Good thing you asked.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:55, Wed 05 Aug 2015.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 91 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Wed 5 Aug 2015
at 23:40
  • msg #219

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I forgot: who wanted to fight me?
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 114 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 00:53
  • msg #220

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I will once Lekol wraps this current match up. :)
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 928 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 01:07
  • msg #221

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ouch, the new system is definitely going to slow down Hiro's ability to keep advancing...

Would one of you bastards hurry up and catch up in levels so I have someone worth fighting???? :P
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 115 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 01:11
  • msg #222

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sure, lets see...

Current BP: 361
Required for level 11: 820

I'll just triple my BP and convert all my Items to levels :P

Btw Hiro - Does the Voiceless Dragon have a joining fee?
Hiro
1,680 Battle Points, 929 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 01:51
  • msg #223

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Brakt (msg # 222):

Arkrim will have to correct me on this one, but I believe guilds no longer have costs associated with them, but instead will earn BP for guild battles?

Assuming I have control over the cost, you're welcome to join for free!
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 116 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 02:28
  • msg #224

Re: OOC Discussion 5

After my next PVP match then :)

Hurry up and kill me die Lekol!
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 774 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 02:45
  • msg #225

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
Ouch, the new system is definitely going to slow down Hiro's ability to keep advancing...

Would one of you bastards hurry up and catch up in levels so I have someone worth fighting???? :P


throw a few fights and i'll see what i can do. ;)
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 478 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 02:47
  • msg #226

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
You are INCORRECT. Submitting sheetwork during a match of any kind will get you a major violation really quick. Good thing you asked.

Good thing indeed.

Next question, this one regarding the free retrainging we're being offered. If there are corrections to be made to a sheet but those corrections will end up not mattering at all after the redesign, should i bother putting sheet work corrections in my redesign post at all?

finally, if we're basically redesigning our whole sheet from the ground up, should we just go ahead and submit a whole sheet for you to copy/past over into our sheet?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:50, Thu 06 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5590 posts
Game Master
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 02:53
  • msg #227

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
Ouch, the new system is definitely going to slow down Hiro's ability to keep advancing...
Would one of you bastards hurry up and catch up in levels so I have someone worth fighting???? :P

Tell that to Ugrim and Josep. I'm sure they'll disagree when they look at their sheets after that fight (and consider the fact that the reward each of them got was HALF the reward for beating you).

It's only exponentially further balanced rewards. When you LOSE a fight against a foe with LESS BP than you, you get EXPONENTIALLY less rewards (and vice versa when you WIN a fight against a foe with MORE BP than you). So all it's done is make it harder to build a gap between you and the next highest gladiator. Hiro can keep advancing, but not much faster than the rest of the arena. So encouraging your fellow gladiators to fight more often helps you too. And if you TRULY want to be the best by a wide margin, you'll want to beef up your alternate characters and get them into 2nd and 3rd place (if they aren't already that is). :P

Hiro:
In reply to Brakt (msg # 222):

Arkrim will have to correct me on this one, but I believe guilds no longer have costs associated with them, but instead will earn BP for guild battles?

Assuming I have control over the cost, you're welcome to join for free!

Guildmasters control their costs and requirements. We're updating the existing treasuries but it will take a while. In the meantime you can charge hero points or require them to beat a lower level character in a duel or spar with you to get a sense of their combat style/character concept or dance like a monkey while barking like a dog with in a tub of mayonnaise or whatever. Just don't deal with BP for now.

Madam Opal:
If there are corrections to be made to a sheet but those corrections will end up not mattering at all after the redesign, should i bother putting sheet work corrections in my redesign post at all?

finally, if we're basically redesigning our whole sheet from the ground up, should we just go ahead and submit a whole sheet for you to copy/past over into our sheet?

No, don't bother correcting something if your redesign will already correct it. This ONE time for this ONE free retraining we will allow you to post the entire sheet as copy/paste. In the future, as always, never message your character sheet or a significant chunk of it to anyone, not even the GMs (other than what the combat posts require that is).
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:57, Thu 06 Aug 2015.
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 479 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 03:14
  • msg #228

Re: OOC Discussion 5

One last questions and i promise I'll leave you alone and get to work on my redesigns.


Where should we list added racial traits we buy with our BP on our character sheet when doing our free redesign?
Thraxis
452 Battle Points, 110 posts
Half-orc (452 BP)
Summoner 6
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 04:09
  • msg #229

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Anyone up for fighting 60% of a summoner?
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 480 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 04:21
  • msg #230

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Define 60%
Tinny Tina
629 Battle Points, 200 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 04:52
  • msg #231

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'll take you on, Thraxis. Want anything special, or is a completely standard match okay?

Also, anyone want to be our environment volunteer?

Also also, do matches from before my total makeover count for veteran status?
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 481 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 05:14
  • msg #232

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Tinny Tina:
Also also, do matches from before my total makeover count for veteran status?

Who did you used to be before your make over?
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 482 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 07:13
  • msg #233

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So a questions about this:

quote:
Spells (class feature): Any class feature that alters spells or spellcasting in any way, only affects spells from that class, unless exclusively noted otherwise (such as with mystic theurge). For example, a sorcerer's bloodline elemental bloodline that adds +1 to damage per damage die for elemental spells of their type would only apply to sorcerer spells and a bloodrager's bloodline would only apply to bloodrager spells.


Assuming Opal took a level in the wizard Variant Spellslinger, would that mean that she could only cast spells through her gun if they were wizard spells?

Or does the fact that the Arcane gun ability says that "A spellslinger can cast any ranged touch attack, cone, line, or ray spells through his arcane gun" mean that, regardless of what class its coming from, the spellslinger can cast the spell through his gun, period?
Josep Gavinho
774 Battle Points, 602 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 08:03
  • msg #234

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I'm afraid the former is true...

 I used to have a single level in sorcerer to gain the benefits of bloodlines and fuel my wizard spells with it, but sadly no more...
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 483 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 08:46
  • msg #235

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
I'm afraid the former is true...

Tis a shame. Would have been a sweet combination with a witch.
Josep Gavinho
774 Battle Points, 603 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 09:50
  • msg #236

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Reforge Madam Opal as a wizard et voila.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5591 posts
Game Master
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 11:55
  • msg #237

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Madam Opal (msg # 228):
No more freebies. You need advice? Pay up that BP or read the threads yourself for the answer. Or don't bother if the answer isn't worth anyone's time.


In reply to Tinny Tina (msg # 231):
They do not. You changed, name, race AND class, thus you lose your leaderboard stats entirely. TOTAL rebuilds wipe the slate clean. Which can be a good thing if you didn't like the character anymore and wanted something new and fresh.


In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 234):
What do you mean "used to"? It still says you have a level of sorcerer on your sheet. Looks like you need a rebuild.
Thraxis
452 Battle Points, 111 posts
Half-orc (452 BP)
Summoner 6
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 12:42
  • msg #238

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Normal sounds fine, Tinny.  I'll put up a challenge.
Josep Gavinho
774 Battle Points, 604 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 14:08
  • msg #239

Re: OOC Discussion 5

My rebuild is in the sheetwork thread indeed. Hopefully with everything legit and no typo...
Hiro
1,689 Battle Points, 930 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 15:40
  • msg #240

Re: OOC Discussion 5

For the free rebuilds, should we be posting the entire character sheet, or just what changed?
Josep Gavinho
774 Battle Points, 605 posts
Human
Wizard/Sorcerer 7
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 15:57
  • msg #241

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
This ONE time for this ONE free retraining we will allow you to post the entire sheet as copy/paste. In the future, as always, never message your character sheet or a significant chunk of it to anyone, not even the GMs (other than what the combat posts require that is).

Hiro
1,689 Battle Points, 931 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 16:21
  • msg #242

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thanks Josep, I bounced around a lot of threads but evidently missed that :)

Edit: And now that I went looking for it again, there it is :P I THINK ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!
This message was last edited by the player at 16:22, Thu 06 Aug 2015.
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 484 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 16:26
  • msg #243

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
In reply to Madam Opal (msg # 228):
No more freebies. You need advice? Pay up that BP or read the threads yourself for the answer. Or don't bother if the answer isn't worth anyone's time.


I shall look it up on my own then. Thanks for answering my questions up until now. I'm sure the community will benefit from these publicly available answers as well.
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 777 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 16:30
  • msg #244

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So heres a question regarding allowing banned material.

If something we want allowed has been previously allowed into the arena by way of GM ruling before the mass update, should we continue to follow those rulings and site the post where the GM's made such rulings so that they can be included, or do we still need to submit our feats/spells/class abilities/whatnot that have been previously ruled on for inclusion into the arena?
Tinny Tina
629 Battle Points, 202 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 16:32
  • msg #245

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Madam Opal:
Who did you used to be before your make over?

Well if you look at who's had sheetwork done recently, and look at who of them no longer exist, it should be rather easy to figure out.
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 485 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 16:38
  • msg #246

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Tinny Tina:
Madam Opal:
Who did you used to be before your make over?

Well if you look at who's had sheetwork done recently, and look at who of them no longer exist, it should be rather easy to figure out.

I see what you did there.jpg
Hiro
1,689 Battle Points, 932 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 16:40
  • msg #247

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Tina, you're still welcome to your old-you's spot in the guild!
Ranuth
374 Battle Points, 127 posts
Vanara
Monk 6
Thu 6 Aug 2015
at 17:44
  • msg #248

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So... are we doing that match?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5593 posts
Game Master
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 01:16
  • msg #249

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 244):

What stuff was previously allowed? Remind me and I can put it up on the exceptions list if it's still available.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 117 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 04:48
  • msg #250

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Tinny/Thraxis: I won't be on much at all over the next 2 days (Weekend), but I'll be here for another couple hours and back on monday morning so can keep track if you want.
Tinny Tina
629 Battle Points, 205 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 04:50
  • msg #251

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Alright, so long as Thraxis won't mind waiting over the weekend.
Thraxis
452 Battle Points, 118 posts
Half-orc (452 BP)
Summoner 6
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 04:55
  • msg #252

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm fine with a couple day pause, but I can't get my turn up until tomorrow.  (It's 1 am my time.)
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 118 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 05:28
  • msg #253

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Not really expecting you guys to actually need me, but I'll poke my head on over the weekend if I get a chance :)
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 781 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 12:30
  • msg #254

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 244):

What stuff was previously allowed? Remind me and I can put it up on the exceptions list if it's still available.

I'll send you a PM with all the stuff i remember if thats all right.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 92 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 12:50
  • msg #255

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I don't mind if I get charged BP for asking this; I just want to make damn sure I understand the new character creation rules. My first question is if the BP cost on the level table is cumulative, and the second is to ask if I'm right in thinking BP earned with a gladiator cannot be spent on a second gladiator the player makes during creation of the secnd gladiator.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:50, Fri 07 Aug 2015.
Ario
427 Battle Points, 90 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 13:05
  • msg #256

Re: OOC Discussion 5

My BP's just got saved by someone else, so I'll try to cover you here:

1- Yes, it's cumulative.

2- While that is a really neat idea (which Hiro would hate - people lowering their level to make another low level buddy), currently you can just choose to remake your current character or make a new one as with RTJ but in the sheetwork thread.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 93 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 13:12
  • msg #257

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Ario (msg # 256):

Thanks for the info~ I may consider a remake though I'm having fun with the sword and board beatdown
Ranuth
374 Battle Points, 128 posts
Vanara
Monk 6
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 18:25
  • msg #258

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian and/or Bruhli... are we still fighting?
Panian
381 Battle Points, 94 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 18:29
  • msg #259

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Until I'm actually in a fight, I forget who I'm supposed to be fighting. So, maybe.
Bruhli
566 Battle Points, 157 posts
Suli
Barbarian/Brawler 6
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 18:36
  • msg #260

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm ready when you guys are. Just post map and conditions. I'll likely accept
Panian
381 Battle Points, 95 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 18:47
  • msg #261

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm down with all standard everything on the big map
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 783 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 21:33
  • msg #262

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
What stuff was previously allowed? Remind me and I can put it up on the exceptions list if it's still available.


This is all the stuff i remember being allowed into the arena by way of GM ruling on the matter at one point or another. If there's more i can send you a PM or i can just post it OOC. Whatever you prefer.

The anti paladin auras were ruled to allow a saving throw of 10 + 1/2 character level + Cha mod to negate every time an enemy became subject to the aura. (Leaving the aura and reentering it for example.)

Glitterdust was ruled to allow a saving throw of reflex to half the effects of the penalty to stealth. Probably would also half the effects of making the effected character completely visible as well but thats a DM ruling on that one.

Blindness/Deafness was ruled to be allowed in at lasting 1hour/level, but 1minute/level seems more reasonable as i'm the one who originally requested its inclusion way back when
This message was last edited by the player at 21:39, Fri 07 Aug 2015.
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 784 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 21:52
  • msg #263

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Can I award Tina an extra 3 BP for the best reference in the history of ever?
Tinny Tina:
she holds her bow above her head and yells "This is my boomstick!"

Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 486 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 22:33
  • msg #264

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Guys... i can be lvl 7 but i have to sacrifice pretty much all my items..... what should i do?
Grunyar Fangblood
410 Battle Points, 102 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner 7
Fri 7 Aug 2015
at 23:19
  • msg #265

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Guess it depends on your build, are your items that important?  I stripped down to lvl so I could get 7th feat and ability to use summon IV, which in my opinion was more important than my items.
Hiro
1,689 Battle Points, 934 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Sat 8 Aug 2015
at 01:52
  • msg #266

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Madam Opal:
Guys... i can be lvl 7 but i have to sacrifice pretty much all my items..... what should i do?


Figure out which one gives you more power - the items or the level. Remember you can always build up items to make yourself powerful then drop them to get a couple levels at once... and being lower level gives you extra points in juggernaut matches.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5598 posts
Game Master
Sat 8 Aug 2015
at 02:01
  • msg #267

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 263):

Hmm, that gives me a great idea...
Grunyar Fangblood
410 Battle Points, 103 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner 7
Sat 8 Aug 2015
at 02:04
  • msg #268

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
Madam Opal:
Guys... i can be lvl 7 but i have to sacrifice pretty much all my items..... what should i do?


Figure out which one gives you more power - the items or the level. Remember you can always build up items to make yourself powerful then drop them to get a couple levels at once... and being lower level gives you extra points in juggernaut matches.



Your lvl has no bearing on rewards, being lower lvl I guess allows you to get into a juggernaut match.


quote:
Winner: (Opponent's BP * 30) / (Your BP) = BP earned (round down, minimum 1)
Draw/Runner Up: (Opponent's BP * 20) / (Your BP) = BP earned (round down, minimum 1)
Loser/Yield: (Opponent's BP * 10) / (Your BP) = BP earned (round down, minimum 1)
Forfeit/Disqualification: Lose 5% of all your BP + opponent gets no rewards from your defeat
Poll: Up to 10 BP per poll.
Hero Points: +1 for a win PvP, +1 for juggernaut, team match or battle royal (win or lose), +1 for duel vs. opposed alignment (win or lose)

GM Arkrim
GM, 5599 posts
Game Master
Sat 8 Aug 2015
at 02:06
  • msg #269

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 268):

Nope. We go by BP for power level now, not character level.
Grunyar Fangblood
410 Battle Points, 104 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner 7
Sat 8 Aug 2015
at 02:08
  • msg #270

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ok, was about to post a question about that, would a lvl 5 with all BPs in gear be equal to lvl charracter of his/her BP
GM Arkrim
GM, 5600 posts
Game Master
Sat 8 Aug 2015
at 02:14
  • msg #271

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Supposedly, yes.

However, the bigger gap you have between your AVERAGE WEALTH PER CHARACTER LEVEL and AVERAGE CHARACTER LEVEL the more your power level will fluctuate and the bigger of a gamble you place.

A low level with lots of crazy gear has low hit points and base bonuses and are trusting those items to compensate. If they can't accommodate ALL their defenses and attacks, an enemy can easily exploit the ones they don't.

And the reverse is true as well. A high level character with no gear is extremely vulnerable to "tricks" (usually they become weak against spellcasters and alchemical mongerers in particular). A brawler or monk may not be weakened martially by this, but they become easy pickings for spellcasters and alchemists still (they don't only target Reflex you know).

So essentially, you don't want TOO big of a gap. I recommend neither your level BP or your wealth BP be more than double the other. If you do leave a large gap, you're leaving yourself vulnerable to a LOT of dirty tricks that could take you out so easy, it's just embarrassing. I can already predict some really sad sad matches that would result in a high level character angrily stomping their feet...heh. I almost want to dare someone to do it...
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:16, Sat 08 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5603 posts
Game Master
Sat 8 Aug 2015
at 15:12
  • msg #272

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Man, that monster mash match is down to the wire. What an impressive fight.
Lekol
403 Battle Points, 201 posts
Human
Ranger/Fighter 6
Sat 8 Aug 2015
at 15:25
  • msg #273

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Like Brakt said last 2 breaths I just took dmg forgot reflex saves, either way very close dang cold dmg for hitting it is for the birds :)
Grunyar Fangblood
410 Battle Points, 108 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner 7
Sat 8 Aug 2015
at 21:54
  • msg #274

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Latro is bestow curse legal it is a duration of permanent?
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 786 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 02:33
  • msg #275

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Grunyar Fangblood:
Latro is bestow curse legal it is a duration of permanent?

At the moment not really. But I've implemented a duration of 1 round/per level as fair compensation until i can properly pay for the BP to included it legally. However if the GMs feel that the antipaladin's form of Bestow Curse via touch of corruption is fair and incredibly reasonable at fort negates, 1/round per antipaladin on failed save and decide not to charge me 1% of my BP, then i wont complain. I don't imagine most matches will last longer than 9 rounds at this point anyways.
Tinny Tina
629 Battle Points, 214 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 03:09
  • msg #276

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Technically, the Anti-Paladin's Bestow Curse is legal as-is. The ban on permanent effects only applies to spells, while Cruelty (the ability through which the curse is applied) is a Supernatural ability.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 122 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 05:03
  • msg #277

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Shoulda been done when Lekol hit 0, but either way, it's been fun :)
GM Arkrim
GM, 5605 posts
Game Master
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 07:14
  • msg #278

Re: OOC Discussion 5




BANNED MATERIALS

I reworded it for you guys. It was never meant to affect those types of abilities anyway. It's simply meant to keep people from using "I have permanent Bull's Strength" or "I cast Animate Dead before going to the arena" or some BS like that. All such effects have to be created DURING the battle and they do not last outside the battle.

quote:
Permanent spells, SLAs, SNAs, and other effects that last more than 24 hours (such as Permanency), including those that say "instantaneous" but create something permanent (such as Animate Dead) and items that utilize these effects do not function outside the arena, nor can their created effects be brought into the arena. All such effects must be cast or created during combat to be utilized.





ARENA COMPETITION RULES

Also, for future matches, PREP rounds will be optional extras and spellcombat has been altered. Default/standard matches will no longer have a prep round. However, you can still add it as an extra (though if a noncaster is fighting a caster, they will get spellcombat or offer/request something else in exchange for adding prep time).




SHEETWORK

Those of you requesting a retraining will need to update your posts before I get to them. There's been a BP update so your BP may have changed.
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:20, Sun 09 Aug 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
410 Battle Points, 110 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner 7
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 12:44
  • msg #279

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thanks GM Akrim for the update sorry to call you out on that Latro.  I had thrown that spell out as a possible debuff and was going to do a sheet work as well to get it unbanned.  I just figured you had already done it in the past and I could use same rules you got approved.

Again apologies for calling you and thank you GM.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 100 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 14:41
  • msg #280

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Now that the BP system is a thing, could Monk Vows be bought at character creation for monks?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5607 posts
Game Master
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 16:13
  • msg #281

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 279):

I don't know what you mean "calling me". You just pointed out the rule's wording was implying that it applied to spells they weren't meant to. Inquiring and point out these things helps to improve the arena.

It's only blatantly misinterpreting the rules or misreading the rules for one's own benefit that I dislike. The reverse doesn't bother me.

And again, I'm happy to answer questions. But if I feel that question is already answered on the threads, I charge BP. If it is honestly confusing, and I can see that it's genuinely unclear, I charge nothing and I fix it for you guys.

If you're easily confused, we may have some disagreements on that and that's just the nature of all of us being different. I can only make my best judgement calls given what we all know about the game and the English language.



EXCLUSIVELY BANNED STUFF
  • General Rules not Allowed: Called Shots, Massive Damage, Alternate Favored Class Bonuses, Alternate Racial Traits (for exceptions see Additional Traits), Monk vows, Paladin oaths, Hero point feats, hero point items and hero point spells, Story feats and similar roleplay-based trade-offs.
  • Customization: You cannot customize your own class features, archetypes, feats or spells (such as the methods from the ACG).
  • Gunslinger: DEX mod to damage does not stack with itself (see archetypes).
  • Gunslinger: "Daring acts" do not generate Grit.
  • Psionics: No psionics of any type.
  • Summoner: (Synthesist) archetype.
  • Dimensional pockets of all types (such as the mage's sanctum, rope trick or bags of holding).
  • Permanent spells, SLAs, SNAs, and other effects that last more than 24 hours (such as Permanency), including those that say "instantaneous" but create something permanent (such as Animate Dead) and items that utilize these effects do not function outside the arena, nor can their created effects be brought into the arena. All such effects must be cast or created during combat to be utilized.
  • Spells, SLAs and SNAs that mimic other spells (such as Wish, Miracle or Shadow Conjuration). Greater or lesser versions of other spells are allowed as they don't count as "mimicking" because they are very specific. Also, class features and racial traits granting abilities that emulate banned spells (such as a Shadowdancer's) are still allowed.
  • Automatic success effects such as Magic Missile which always hits or Waves of Fatigue which allows no save or Power Word spells. All unwilling effects that target creatures and attended objects must have an attack roll, combat maneuver check, opposed skill check or saving throw which negates or reduces their effect. All effects creating conditions for an ongoing duration must allow a saving throw to half the duration (even if they already have an attack, CMB or skill check). Otherwise, they are banned. As the keyword "duration" notes, this does not apply to effects that have no duration or effects that are sustained such as combat maneuvers, feint, Stealth and similar checks.
Allowing Banned Material: However, banned feats, spells and items may be altered to allow them into the game. Magic Missile, for example, can be altered to be a ranged touch attack and Waves of Fatigue can be altered to allow a Fortitude save to reduce the duration to 1 minute. Requesting banned material costs 1% of your total BP per request, even if it is rejected. A GM can waive this fee if they find the request particularly sensible and fair.

Previously Approved Exceptions: (durations of 1 round are halved to 0)
  • Auras: Auras are treated as having a duration of 1 round and affect a creature each round they are in the aura or move through it (willingly or not). They allow saving throws to negate every round (unless it deals damage, then its a saving throw for half). Anti-paladin auras, for example, affect a creature immediately upon them entering it (willingly or not) and allow a Will save DC10 + 1/2 antipaladin's level + antipaladin's Charisma modifier to negate the effect each round. A fail means they are affected for 1 round.
  • Debilitating Strike: Fortitude save to half the duration DC10 + 1/2 rogue's level + rogue's DEX modifier.
  • Frigid Touch: Fortitude save to negate Staggered (if not a crit) or reduce Staggered to 1 round (if crit).
  • Glitterdust: A Reflex save halves the Stealth penalty AND duration of the Stealth penalty. While affected, an invisible target is treated as partially visible gaining only 20% concealment instead of 50% from the invisibility. Their invisibility bonus still applies, but is countered by the glitterdust penalty.
  • Magic Missile: Ranged touch attack that ignores any concealment or cover less than total.
  • Stricken Heart: Fortitude save to negate Staggered (if not a crit) or reduce Staggered to 1 round (if crit).
  • Swarms: Allow a Reflex saving throw for half swarm damage (same DC as distraction).



This message was last edited by the GM at 16:19, Sun 09 Aug 2015.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 101 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 16:20
  • msg #282

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 281):

I should have made it more clear that my post was a request to reconsider banned material and understand that the request will cost me 1% BP
GM Arkrim
GM, 5609 posts
Game Master
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 16:30
  • msg #283

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Panian (msg # 282):

quote:
DOs and DON'Ts
Harassment will not be tolerated here. Harassment includes:
  • Doing anything that a GM or a notice thread here exclusively told you not to do.
  • Arguing over real world politics or religion for any reason.
  • Insulting other players, GMs or their ideas or suggestions.
  • Arguing with a GM for ANY reason.
  • Posting about a sheetwork request outside the sheetwork thread (NEVER PM a GM for sheetwork unless exclusively told to do so by that GM).
  • Posting in an arena match which you do not participate in.
  • Bothering a GM with d20 RAW questions outside of a match conflict (though you can still ask fellow players for advice if they do not mind).
  • Complaining about previous rulings or rules after you've been asked to stop.
  • Sending messages to someone or talking about them after you've been asked to stop.
  • Starting a new private message thread to someone you've already messaged (you should just hit reply to your existing PM thread).
If you disagree with a ruling, you may REQUEST that a GM reconsider ONCE by providing evidence that supports your case. A GM's ruling IS FINAL once they reject a request. Arguing will only get you disqualified, though you can always appeal to the head GM via PM. You get only one warning.


Do not submit sheetwork outside the sheetwork thread. Come on guys, this is not a new rule. I will have to start slapping major BP penalties at some point. Please don't make me do it.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:33, Sun 09 Aug 2015.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 102 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 16:50
  • msg #284

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ah. That's a sheetwork request type of deal. My mistake.
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 788 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 17:09
  • msg #285

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
[*] Auras: Auras are treated as having a duration of 1 round and affect a creature each round they are in the aura or move through it (willingly or not). They allow saving throws to negate every round (unless it deals damage, then its a saving throw for half). Anti-paladin auras, for example, affect a creature immediately upon them entering it (willingly or not) and allow a Will save DC10 + 1/2 antipaladin's level + antipaladin's Charisma modifier to negate the effect each round. A fail means they are affected for 1 round.


Well, thats a bit different isnt it.

It seems to me that Auras might function better as a whole if those who failed to save against the effects continue to be effected until they can make a save against it or completely remove themselves from the effect. Allowing a save every round to negate the effect is fine, but having the effects last for 1 round period i feel is sorta contrary to how auras worked in the first place.

Correct me if i'm wrong but this is how i see auras working right now:

Latro moves to attack Hiro
Hiro Passes his save vs Aura of Despair when he falls in range of it.
On Latro's next turn, Hiro is still inside Latro's Aura of Despair and fails his save against it. Hiro now takes a -2 penalty to all saves for 1 round. At the beginning of Latro's next turn, the effects end and Hiro must make a new save if he is still within the aura. He does not take penalties to this save because the original effects of the aura last only 1 round.


This is how i feel it should work:
Latro moves to attack Hiro.
Hiro Passes his save vs Aura of Despair when he falls in range of it.
On Latro's next turn, Hiro is still inside Latro's Aura of Despair and fails his save against it. Hiro now takes a -2 penalty to all saves. Every round following, Hiro may make a save to end the effects of Latro's Aura of Despair if he is still within the aura's range, however the Save takes a -2 penalty as the Aura's effects have not yet been negated. Hiro may remove himself from the Aura's range to end the effects of the aura automatically the next time he would need to save to end the effects of the aura.


If the auras absolutely positively have to have a duration associated with them, then maybe max duration of Caster Level or Class level would be better on a failed save - still allowing a save every round to negate the effects. I understand that Auras, by their nature, specifically the ones generated by Paladins and Antipaladins (and clerics i suppose), are banned because they are a continues permanent effect that can not be turned on and off as per the class feature. But limiting their effects to 1 round period seems a little harsh and contrary to the way auras originally worked - as something that just effects you when you step inside of it.

Once again, i'm perfectly fine with the save every round potion of this. I think thats totally fair. But i feel the effects of a failed save should carry over to the next save to negate the aura as opposed to the effects ending before the next save can be made. Thats pretty much my only beef.

If a failed save indeed does carry over to the next save to negate however and i'm just reading how it works wrong, then please ignore everything i've said and let me know i'm stupid.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:12, Sun 09 Aug 2015.
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 487 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 18:06
  • msg #286

Re: OOC Discussion 5

A question about wands: Seeing as all consumable items regenerate at the end of battle is it possible to buy/craft wands at reduced changes -  maybe in increments of 10 - so the least amount to can buy/craft is a wand with 10 charges? Or do wands not count as consumables for this purpose? I ask because buying/crafting a fully charged lvl 3 wand seems almost pointless when your charges just regenerate at the end of combat.
Grunyar Fangblood
410 Battle Points, 115 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner 7
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 18:45
  • msg #287

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Auras could act like stinking cloud while in it you need to make saves as you exit you are effected 1Dx rounds. Maybe 1 or 2 passed saves negates Aura as long as you stay in it upon exit and reentry saves start all over again

Just my two cents.
Ugrim
807 Battle Points, 422 posts
Orc [SC]
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 19:32
  • msg #288

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Just as a note Thraxis and Tina, ending a match before 5 rounds of combat have ensued is considered a forfeit and nets no rewards and awards penalties only.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5610 posts
Game Master
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 19:58
  • msg #289

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Your questions will not be answered by a GM here as they are already answered in the threads. You need to submit proper requests for them.

The next idiot trying to address the GM in the OOC with a sheetwork question will be docked BP for it and suspended (banned if they've already been suspended before).

And Ugrim is incorrect (as usual). The correct rules for forfeiting are listed in the Arena Competition thread.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:01, Sun 09 Aug 2015.
Thraxis
452 Battle Points, 130 posts
Half-orc (452 BP)
Summoner 6
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 20:10
  • msg #290

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thraxis was dead, and all his dudes (less 1 eagle) were incapacitated.  I had the right to force Tina to play out surviving three rounds of 1v1 combat against a cr 1/2 eagle and seven move-action-only buddies, but I'm waiving it.
Ugrim
807 Battle Points, 423 posts
Orc [SC]
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Sun 9 Aug 2015
at 20:19
  • msg #291

Re: OOC Discussion 5

My apologise
This message was last updated by the player at 20:20, Sun 09 Aug 2015.
Krumm
513 Battle Points, 225 posts
Human
Bloodrager 7
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 04:08
  • msg #292

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Krumm is ready for a match! WHo will face him?
Panian
381 Battle Points, 107 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 04:19
  • msg #293

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hopefully this Bruhli spanking is over quickly. Panian wants a rematch with Krumm, because we shouldn't have to fight among weirdo birds.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 124 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 04:21
  • msg #294

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Oi, who you calling a bird?

I'll be happy to fight as soon as this Monster Mash is closed off...  Taking forever lol
Ugrim
807 Battle Points, 424 posts
Orc [SC]
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 05:33
  • msg #295

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro, If your still lvl 11 after your free retraining, I'm challenging you for the title of champion. No extras, no bans. Large arena. Face me and we shall fight like kings! And i shall claim victory and become the new champion!
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 608 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 09:42
  • msg #296

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hmm, that is some big talk Ugrim! Go get him!

Tinny Tina... Are you up for a fight? I need to avenge my comrade Thraxis ;)
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 609 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 11:12
  • msg #297

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Just noticed Tina has sheetwork in progress.
Anyone else willing to fight?
I can take on two of you with total BP < 1,000
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 935 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 13:34
  • msg #298

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Ugrim (msg # 295):

It's your funeral, Orc :)
Ugrim
807 Battle Points, 425 posts
Orc [SC]
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 14:31
  • msg #299

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Hiro (msg # 298):

At the very least it'll be a heck of a lot of fun. :P
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 936 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 14:39
  • msg #300

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Ugrim (msg # 299):

True! I've always enjoyed beating you into a bloody pulp :)
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 610 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 15:02
  • msg #301

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 You know what you should do to make it more fun and remove partly the chance factor? Ask for this special: both gladiators have 10 times their normal hp. Damage stays the same and death occurs as normal. That way it won't be over after 2 rounds.
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 937 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 15:20
  • msg #302

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
You know what you should do to make it more fun and remove partly the chance factor? Ask for this special: both gladiators have 10 times their normal hp. Damage stays the same and death occurs as normal. That way it won't be over after 2 rounds.


A similar idea was bandied about some time back in which each time you die you get to respawn a set number of times. Could be fun to try, though I assume Ugrim doesn't want that for his championship match...
Ugrim
807 Battle Points, 426 posts
Orc [SC]
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 19:22
  • msg #303

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Never mind on the championship challenge this week Hiro. I fudged up ever so slightly on my retraining sheet so now I have to wait a week. I WILL however take you up on the x10 HP match for kicks and BP :P
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 612 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 22:41
  • msg #304

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So, anyone out there wants to fight?
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 938 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 22:50
  • msg #305

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
So, anyone out there wants to fight?


Oooh, someone hit level 10! Gratz :)
Ugrim
807 Battle Points, 427 posts
Orc [SC]
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Mon 10 Aug 2015
at 23:32
  • msg #306

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I would have been lvl 10....
Haran Madar
608 Battle Points, 208 posts
Human
Sorcerer 6
Tue 11 Aug 2015
at 00:26
  • msg #307

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 304):

Lvl 10 Sorcerer, really Josep... Looks like I'll have competition
This message was last edited by the player at 00:38, Tue 11 Aug 2015.
Panian
381 Battle Points, 110 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Tue 11 Aug 2015
at 03:49
  • msg #308

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt, Lekol, congrats on the draw ;P

Brakt, did you still wanna square off? Considering Bruhli's ability to melt people, I think this'll be over soon.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 126 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Tue 11 Aug 2015
at 03:51
  • msg #309

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Let me finish off my sheetwork and you got it.  I'll melt, but it will be fun!
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 613 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Tue 11 Aug 2015
at 08:12
  • msg #310

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Haran Madar (msg # 307):

 Ha! I was fine with wizard and a sorcerer dip, but apparently that's not going to fly anymore...
 We're growing more an more alike it seems.

 Guys, any two of you wanna try their luck against Josep?
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 489 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Tue 11 Aug 2015
at 21:37
  • msg #311

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I know in the past templates were banned and i imagine they still are. But now with the BP system in place, could it be possible that in future updates and revisions we might see a way to gain templates by expending BP?

Just seeing if you guys, the GMs, have any plans to implement such a thing in the future. If not that's fine, i'm just curious.
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 792 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Tue 11 Aug 2015
at 21:58
  • msg #312

Re: OOC Discussion 5

joseph, hiro, when are we going to go on that monster hunt. Now that Joseph is lvl 10 we can probably rock the socks off of something.

Also, I think Latro now holds the record for most damage dealt in one blow and Tuong holds the record for most damage taken in one blow at 102 total damage. This means he also ties with Ugrim for the most damage taken in one round. Message #38
link to a message in this game

Congratulations Tuong. You're making Arena history as we speak! :D
This message was last edited by the player at 22:06, Tue 11 Aug 2015.
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 939 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Tue 11 Aug 2015
at 22:12
  • msg #313

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Latro Dectus:
joseph, hiro, when are we going to go on that monster hunt. Now that Joseph is lvl 10 we can probably rock the socks off of something.

Also, I think Latro now holds the record for most damage dealt in one blow and Tuong holds the record for most damage taken in one blow at 102 total damage. This means he also ties with Ugrim for the most damage taken in one round. Message #38
link to a message in this game

Congratulations Tuong. You're making Arena history as we speak! :D


I'm just waiting on sheetwork approval, then I'll be good to go!
Bruhli
566 Battle Points, 175 posts
Suli
Barbarian/Brawler 6
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 02:58
  • msg #314

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian, I think you have to list your lvl and alignment at the end. I don't think it counts if it's earlier.
Tarmujin
Gladiator, 59 posts
Goblin
Cavalier/Fighter 5
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 03:40
  • msg #315

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm looking forward to coming back to this game, once I've been converted to the new system, and then re-configured the character to just one class... I home the GM's aren't PO'ed at me because I wasn't around a while.
Ugrim
807 Battle Points, 428 posts
Orc [SC]
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 03:48
  • msg #316

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
Ha! I was fine with wizard and a sorcerer dip, but apparently that's not going to fly anymore...


Yeah, the arena seem to be driving a big "F you" steak through the heart of multi classers. If you didn't catch it, the moment you multi class you instantly lose your extra skill point and HP point per level in your favored class and can never ever get it again because F you and your multiclassing shenanigans. You don't even get to keep the skill points and HP points you've garnered up until you multiclassed either.

1 class for 20 levels or bust it seems.

I understand the reasoning, but it seems kinda harsh. We're already being forced to wait for longer than normal on sheet work if we're multiclassed anyways so whats an extra HP and Skill point in our main class going to fudge up?
quote:
You get +1 hit point and skill rank if you are not multiclassed. You do not gain this benefit at all if you are multiclassed.


The future of characters above 20th level however seems promising! Can't wait to be a mythic barbarian! :D
This message was last edited by the player at 03:53, Wed 12 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5619 posts
Game Master
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 04:06
  • msg #317

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Tarmujin (msg # 315):

On the contrary, we're glad to have you back. Just a little backed up on sheetwork. Sehly is doing the multiclassers and I'm doing everything else. We're doing some major updates I think you guys are going to like.
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 798 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 04:07
  • msg #318

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
We're doing some major updates I think you guys are going to like.


Is there going to be cake? Is the cake going to be evil? ARE WE ALL GOING TO GET EVIL CAKE?!?!?! OH MY GOD ARKRIM YOU'RE GIVING US EVIL CAKE I LOVE YOU!!
This message was last edited by the player at 04:09, Wed 12 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5621 posts
Game Master
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 04:09
  • msg #319

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 318):

Yeah, that's exactly how excited you'll be when you find out what it is...but I'm not telling until it's done.

:P
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 127 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 04:10
  • msg #320

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I can't wait, new stuff is always exciting! :D

Arkrim - Are we ever going to be able to pick up the variant multiclassing if we want to give up half of our feats, or is that permanently out now?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5622 posts
Game Master
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 04:12
  • msg #321

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Brakt (msg # 320):

As of right now we're only doing traditional multiclassing. We had to choose ONE option and the people have spoken: they like traditional multiclassing.

However, at some point I can put up a poll for everyone if they want to change that, though considering an overwhelming majority whined about variant multiclassing, I'm assuming more people don't want it than do.
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 616 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 08:53
  • msg #322

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt, we can do some lobbying for the variant version!

@Latro, Hiro: I'm looking froward to the Guildmasters vs Mecha-Godzilla fight (I've seen the trailer, it's awesome) ; however I want to have a PvP match first. I don't want my first fight with the new Josep to be a PvE.

Talking about which, who will fight me?

I can take one big guy or two small ones. Three even if they're brandnew. Come on guys.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 128 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 09:03
  • msg #323

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Actually - I'm curious who is still multiclassing? In 9 times out of 10, I think the variant option is going to be much better for everyone.

Anyone who is multiclassing - Post why and let's see if we can convince you otherwise!
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 617 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 09:07
  • msg #324

Re: OOC Discussion 5

It's only better if you're not feat-starved (which often happens)
But yeah, in my case it would be better.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 129 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 09:15
  • msg #325

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I need more feats, even though I'm a fighter lol.

Most of the feats I need are BAB +6 requirement at least, so will have to wait.
I really could use some variant skills though.  Alchemist Mutagen + STR, or a Magus's Arcane Pool? Yes please.
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 618 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 09:18
  • msg #326

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Hey are you free for a fight? instead of ranting here ;)
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 130 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 09:27
  • msg #327

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Waiting for sheetwork :(

Otherwise sure, I always like Killing dying to casters.
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 940 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 13:25
  • msg #328

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
Brakt, we can do some lobbying for the variant version!

@Latro, Hiro: I'm looking froward to the Guildmasters vs Mecha-Godzilla fight (I've seen the trailer, it's awesome) ; however I want to have a PvP match first. I don't want my first fight with the new Josep to be a PvE.

Talking about which, who will fight me?

I can take one big guy or two small ones. Three even if they're brandnew. Come on guys.


Well you might as well fight me first then, as soon as my sheet clears :)
Tinny Tina
693 Battle Points, 219 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 13:36
  • msg #329

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Brakt (msg # 323):

Well back when I was Van Drake, I had taken two levels of Alchemist to grab the Vestigal Arm discovery, so I could hold two guns and still be able to reload. Also the mutagen was a good buff, and also extracts are useful. If I had done Variant Multiclassing (Alchemist) as a Gunslinger, I wouldn't have gotten the mutagen until level 11, and would never get Vestigal Arm or any extracts. If I had done Variant Multiclassing (Gunslinger) as an Alchemist, I wouldn't get any Gunslinger class features until level 15 (the level 3, 7 and 11 features are Exotic Weapon Proficiency (firearms), Gunsmithing, and Amateur Gunslinger, so I'd be sacrificing half my feats to get feats), and I wouldn't get Dex to gun damage at all, which is basically the reason to be a Gunslinger. So I guess I was the one time in ten.

Basically the reason people didn't like variant multiclassing in a lot of cases is that the class features people multiclass for either come way later than they'd like, or they never come at all, and they end up with class features they don't care about when they could have more feats that could actually be useful to them.
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 619 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 13:57
  • msg #330

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Sure Hiro, if no one agrees to  fight  me before your sheet work is done, I'm all yours.
Lekol
403 Battle Points, 204 posts
Human
Ranger/Fighter 6
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 14:05
  • msg #331

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I am with Tiny Tina (Van Drake), The features I want from multiclassing that I am not removing guess I'll just take the HP/Skill/time penalty for aren't even an option in the variant multiclass rules unless I over looked it.  I understand its a lot of working messing with all of our sheetwork week after week and I apreciate it.


THANK YOU AKRIM FOR THE REWARD, I was happy not loosing BP because I over looked a couple reflex saves possibly who knows what the dice gods had in store :).
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 799 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 14:08
  • msg #332

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt:
Anyone who is multiclassing - Post why and let's see if we can convince you otherwise!

At lvl 11 I start getting charisma to hp.
At lvl 12 I get charisma to AC.
both of those are two different classes and i have to take them in that order to optimize their effects.

In the variant system i get none of those except for Cha to HP and i only get that via a variant class progression for the anti paladin at lvl 20.

For me, standard multiclassing is the way to go, even if i have to sacrifice my extra skill point and hp point in my favored class to do it.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:27, Thu 13 Aug 2015.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 112 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 14:17
  • msg #333

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep, I had dibs on Brakt since before I got spanked by Bruhli! If you'd like to fight us both, though...
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 620 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 14:43
  • msg #334

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sure I will fight both of you, as soon as Brakt's sheetwork is done. Or Hiro, depending on who's ready first.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 113 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Wed 12 Aug 2015
at 14:46
  • msg #335

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I should do sheetwork too, because I could level up if I got a refund on some of my potions. Buuuuuut I'm not pressed about it. I need more matches than I need optimization, so I can wait.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 131 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 06:03
  • msg #336

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well.  I'm next in line for sheetwork, and as far as I know it's a relatively simple request, so after this finishes, up for a 1v1 panian?

I have this horrible feeling that Josep could take us both out in one round with those scorching rays of his :(
Panian
455 Battle Points, 114 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 06:27
  • msg #337

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Scorching Rays, huh? I can't get Ray Shield until lvl11. I think a 1v1 will fare better for us.
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 621 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 09:40
  • msg #338

Re: OOC Discussion 5

What if you brought a third?
Otherwise I'll wait for Hiro to free up...
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 622 posts
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 09:40
  • [deleted]
  • msg #339

Re: OOC Discussion 5

This message was deleted by the player at 09:55, Thu 13 Aug 2015.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 132 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 09:48
  • msg #340

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro's sheet work is done, I think.  I want to see this rematch... I wonder if he'll dodge all your images for 5 attacks in a row again :P
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 623 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 09:56
  • msg #341

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So, Hiro... What do you say? Ready to lose your belt?
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 941 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 13:23
  • msg #342

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 341):

Looks like I'm up and running! Surely you'll do me the courtesy of a normal match to try out my updated build before a championship match :)
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 624 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 15:46
  • msg #343

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Fair enough. Small colosseum, one prep round in exchange of no flying. That ok?
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 942 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 16:29
  • msg #344

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 343):

I assume you mean one EXTRA prep round, and yes, that works for me! Put up the challenge and I'll accept!
Krumm
513 Battle Points, 230 posts
Human
Bloodrager 7
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 16:36
  • msg #345

Re: OOC Discussion 5

NOpe, prep rounds aren't a thing anymore.
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 943 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 16:41
  • msg #346

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Krumm:
NOpe, prep rounds aren't a thing anymore.

Oooh, I missed that. Thanks!
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 802 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 16:46
  • msg #347

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Krumm:
NOpe, prep rounds aren't a thing anymore.

wait what? show me where it says that so that i may gawk in disbelief.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:47, Thu 13 Aug 2015.
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 944 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 16:47
  • msg #348

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 347):

I know, right?? They're listed as optional now!

This can only help the guy who fights with his bare hands :)
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 625 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 16:53
  • msg #349

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yep. They realized monks were under powered, so that's a little help for you ;)
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 945 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 16:54
  • msg #350

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 349):

It's about time... maybe I'll actually be able to beat someone now!!!
Ario
427 Battle Points, 105 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 17:05
  • msg #351

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
It's about time... maybe I'll actually be able to beat someone now!!!


... said the arena champion?
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 946 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 17:39
  • msg #352

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Ario (msg # 351):

Sorry, I forgot which switches set text to sarcasm :P
Latro Dectus
1,005 Battle Points, 803 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 02:00
  • msg #353

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So if we spend 1% of our BP to remake our character are we still restricted to only five lines of copy/past format or can we list our whole character sheet? cause the character creation thread suggests that we can but the sheetwork thread rules seem to contradict this.

From the Character Creation thread:
At the cost of 1% of your total BP, you can edit/remake an existing character just like your RTJ (but post in the sheetwork thread instead).


From the Sheet Work thread:
Any and all changes you want made to your character must be listed in a format that can be copy/pasted into your character sheet on a line by line basis (max 5 lines per request). If you're leveling up or changing a character, list only the 5 most complicated lines and write out the rest in a simple "+1 to this", "+1 to that format", "new spell this", "new feat that" type format.


GM feedback on this would be nice as I'm sure none of us want to waste 1% of our BP in an attempt to retrain our characters because there were seemingly conflicting rules for posting sheet work.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:02, Fri 14 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5629 posts
Game Master
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 03:37
  • msg #354

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I think you guys should wait another few days to a week before trying to submit any more sheetwork.

A major change is in the works that I know you'll all like, but you will certainly hate yourself if you submit something now, pay for it and then find out it wasn't good or you paid more than you had to later.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 134 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 03:42
  • msg #355

Re: OOC Discussion 5

All right, I'm all done and ready and roaring for a fight!  Panian, all random, or do you have anything specific you'd like?
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 490 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 03:51
  • msg #356

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Arkrim:
I think you guys should wait another few days to a week before trying to submit any more sheetwork.

A major change is in the works that I know you'll all like, but you will certainly hate yourself if you submit something now, pay for it and then find out it wasn't good or you paid more than you had to later.


Madam Opal will refrain for going through with her sheetwork then.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5630 posts
Game Master
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 03:53
  • msg #357

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sorry Ankou, we're going through an update. No monster hunts. Unless a gladiator from another guild wants to control the monster. We'd still have to roll randomly, so they won't even know what monster they're going to use. Not sure if anyone's up for it.

In reply to Madam Opal (msg # 356):
You can delete your sheetwork post if you want.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:53, Fri 14 Aug 2015.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 135 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 03:53
  • msg #358

Re: OOC Discussion 5

More monster mayhem? I'm always up for that! :D
GM Arkrim
GM, 5631 posts
Game Master
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 03:55
  • msg #359

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If Ankou and his gang are okay with you administering the monster Brakt, feel free to volunteer. You can all agree here in the OOC and just let me know when you're ready. If you guys would rather wait for a GM, I'm afraid you'll be waiting a while.
Nyssa Quess
438 Battle Points, 85 posts
Vanara
Inquisitor 6
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 03:56
  • msg #360

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt:
More monster mayhem? I'm always up for that! :D

Is that a volunteer to control the monster in out monster hunt I hear?
Panian
455 Battle Points, 115 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 03:56
  • msg #361

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Brakt (msg # 355):

I'd like to keep it at the standard empty arena
GM Arkrim
GM, 5632 posts
Game Master
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 03:58
  • msg #362

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Panian (msg # 361):

It's all random/in monster's favor (if their environment in stat block demands it) unless you pay extra hero points to decide things like "map", "lighting", "not entirely underwater", etc.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 136 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 03:59
  • msg #363

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hang on, I may be double extending myself here.

Let me have a quick match with Panian (I'll die quick, don't worry), then I'll volunteer for the Monster Hunt, if no one else wants to before hand?

I'll post challenge up now.
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 491 posts
Ratfolk [SC]
Witch 6
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 04:33
  • msg #364

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'll volunteer to be the monster. Seeing as i'm waiting to update my sheet until after the major update, I won't be in any matches until then so i'll have time to kill. Besides, it'll be fun completely destroying my fellow arena buddies! ;P
This message was last edited by the player at 05:09, Fri 14 Aug 2015.
Thraxis
493 Battle Points, 137 posts
Half-orc (493 BP)
Summoner 6
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 04:50
  • msg #365

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm fine with Opal running the monster.
Ankou
376 Battle Points, 189 posts
Dwarf
Inquisitor 6
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 05:21
  • msg #366

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Thanks for the message GM.
 Now that we are all ready, yeah it would be great if Madam Opal could control the monster.
 I'd like to have a GM in charge of randomly picking the monster though, if that's possible. Not that I don't trust you Madam! But we've been through the list and there are some monsters that would be really bad for us...
Vile Ann
692 Battle Points, 269 posts
Human (692 BP)
Fighter 7
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 13:02
  • msg #367

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I have also deleted my sheetwork request in anticipation if this great new thing :)
Lekol
403 Battle Points, 205 posts
Human
Ranger/Fighter 6
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 13:14
  • msg #368

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lol I still haven't made up my mind on what I wanna do with retraining, moving feats an selling off unnecessary gear.  Guess gonna wait just a little longer. Great new things sound worth the wait.


Anyone up for a match 1v1, ffa, heck even a jauggernaut. Seems like thats a popular type as of late, if some wants to team up.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5633 posts
Game Master
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 13:29
  • msg #369

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Okay, Opal will control the monster(s) and I'll randomize the map.

Just a note that you must calculate APL based on BP now. To do this, cut your BP in half and assume you spent all of it on character level. That is your CR. So you're all effectively level 7s with your BP meaning an epic challenge is actually CR10, not CR9.

Hope you guys are still up for it.
Thraxis
493 Battle Points, 138 posts
Half-orc (493 BP)
Summoner 6
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 13:38
  • msg #370

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Nyssa and Ankou both hit level 6 by halving (being under 470, Ankou just barely making it to level 6).  If we take out the 25 points that are stats (without even touching race), we all fall to level 6, except Krumm who still barely makes 7 and Ankou who falls to 5.  Also, most of us are still underbuilt in BP due to successive updates.  (For example in spent BP, even including race points and stat points, Thraxis would be a 5.)

With these considerations there any chance we can have the CR 9 as epic?
This message was last edited by the player at 13:45, Fri 14 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5635 posts
Game Master
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 14:05
  • msg #371

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I told you what the calculation was. I will not repeat myself unless I'm docking someone's BP for not listening the first time. Does everyone understand what "half" means? I'm happy to explain its definition to anyone willing to pay up the BP.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:52, Fri 14 Aug 2015.
Tinny Tina
693 Battle Points, 221 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 17:24
  • msg #372

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Lekol (msg # 368):

I'll take you on. We can even do a juggernaut if you get some buddies at 462 BP or less.
Lekol
403 Battle Points, 206 posts
Human
Ranger/Fighter 6
Fri 14 Aug 2015
at 23:45
  • msg #373

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sounds like fun Tinny Tina, anyone else 462 BP or less want to join me in a jauggernaut vs Tina
GM Arkrim
GM, 5640 posts
Game Master
Sat 15 Aug 2015
at 03:21
  • msg #374

Re: OOC Discussion 5

BTW it's mid August. Less than a month left to update to the battle point system. Anyone left behind will be removed.

The only reason anyone should be using the sheetwork thread right now is to get updated. If you know a fellow gladiator outside this arena or a guildmember hasn't updated yet, you may want to let them know that their time is running out.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 118 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Sat 15 Aug 2015
at 03:31
  • msg #375

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Is there a time limit on that free retraining?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5642 posts
Game Master
Sat 15 Aug 2015
at 04:49
  • msg #376

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Panian (msg # 375):

Same time limit as the update to BP. It will be 1 month countdown starting midnight tonight. But after tonight, no one will need it...mwahahahaha!
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:49, Sat 15 Aug 2015.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 119 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Sat 15 Aug 2015
at 04:50
  • msg #377

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 376):

While I'm not too hopeful about that evil laughter of yours, a month can be a long time to grind BP to work up to a higher level retraining... If that sort of thing is kosher.
Tinny Tina
693 Battle Points, 222 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Sat 15 Aug 2015
at 04:54
  • msg #378

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 376):

You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5643 posts
Game Master
Sat 15 Aug 2015
at 04:58
  • msg #379

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Oh you'll see. You'll all see...mehehehwhwhwwhahhahaamwahahaha!
Tarmujin
354 Battle Points, 60 posts
Goblin
Cavalier/Fighter 5
Sat 15 Aug 2015
at 20:04
  • msg #380

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well, I was about to ask how I go about retraining, but I suppose there's no point in that.
Tinny Tina
693 Battle Points, 223 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Sat 15 Aug 2015
at 20:08
  • msg #381

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So, any takers for that Juggernaut vs. me?
Edward Doyle Remington III
470 Battle Points, 215 posts
Half-orc
Investigator 6
Sat 15 Aug 2015
at 20:13
  • msg #382

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm just over the amount you stated, I'm afraid.
Tarmujin
354 Battle Points, 61 posts
Goblin
Cavalier/Fighter 5
Sat 15 Aug 2015
at 20:22
  • msg #383

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Lekol (msg # 373):

I suppose I could join in.
Tinny Tina
693 Battle Points, 224 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Sat 15 Aug 2015
at 23:55
  • msg #384

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep seems to have forgotten that, by definition, FFTAC doesn't include Dexterity.

Alright, Tarmujin and Lekol, I don't suppose either of you have any special requests?
Lekol
403 Battle Points, 207 posts
Human
Ranger/Fighter 6
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 00:27
  • msg #385

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Not really hows

Tarmujin and Lekol challenge Tinny Tina to a Juggernaut battle.
Map: Random
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: plains
Walls: Random
Extras: 1 prep round
Tarmujin
354 Battle Points, 62 posts
Goblin
Cavalier/Fighter 5
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 03:50
  • msg #386

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Fine by me.
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 631 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 07:40
  • msg #387

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Tinny Tina (msg # 384):

 I was afraid tricksy Hiro had one of those features that allowed him to retain his dexterity when flat footed. Like some sort of uncanny dogde or whatnot.
Tinny Tina
693 Battle Points, 227 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 08:21
  • msg #388

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Went and added Hidden on the Map to make things more manageable. Hope you two don't mind.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 121 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 14:11
  • msg #389

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey guys. Considering this is a thread for discussion of whatever (mostly?), what are your favorite classes to play?
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 633 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 14:41
  • msg #390

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Wizard! Secondarily, sorcerer, druid, cleric...
Panian
455 Battle Points, 122 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 14:42
  • msg #391

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I see someone's got an affinity for casters!
Tarmujin
354 Battle Points, 64 posts
Goblin
Cavalier/Fighter 5
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 17:43
  • msg #392

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I like versatile characters, like bards, gish types, and other in-between third tier kind of classes. I've got a pretty strong tendency to play clerics too.
Bruhli
686 Battle Points, 176 posts
Suli
Barbarian/Brawler 6
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 18:48
  • msg #393

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@ Josep and Hiro, I could be wrong, but from my reading of the hero point rules, you can't use a hero point to take an Extra Action during your turn. So I don't think you can take all those extra actions. Shrugs* I could be wrong, but that's my interpretation.

quote:
Extra Action: Take an extra standard, move or swift action outside of your turn. This does not change initiative nor count against your actions for the round but can interrupt someone else's action similar to the way a readied action works.

GM Arkrim
GM, 5652 posts
Game Master
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 18:55
  • msg #394

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yes and no. You can just as easily use it immediately before or immediately after your turn before the next combatant takes theirs. So, as long as you don't use it to INTERRUPT your own actions, it's all good.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:55, Sun 16 Aug 2015.
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 636 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 18:57
  • msg #395

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm not sure where you found that reference, I've found this however under "using hero points" in the game-mastering part of the pfsrd:

PFSRD:
Extra Action: You can spend a hero point on your turn to gain an additional standard or move action this turn.

Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 637 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 18:59
  • msg #396

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey about this interrupting thing... I believe we should rule that in order to interrupt someone, you need to say so before they post their turn (in a private line to a GM or such) ; otherwise it gets real messy.

Those are my two cents, for your consideration GMs ;)
Bruhli
686 Battle Points, 177 posts
Suli
Barbarian/Brawler 6
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 19:00
  • msg #397

Re: OOC Discussion 5

That make sense. Phew, I was hoping there was a way to get 'extra actions' during our turn. It's from the Character Creation thread. Carry on!
Ario
427 Battle Points, 106 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Sun 16 Aug 2015
at 19:07
  • msg #398

Re: OOC Discussion 5

On the hero points:

I think it's fine as is.  It's a good 'oh crap' button if you're willing to pay the price.


On the characters:

I usually like spellcasters or to take almost any single mechanic and go bonkers with it.

Ex:  Just how much mileage can I get out of shocking grasps? -> A magus throwing 16d6+36ish shocking grasps that crited 15-20 at level 11 or so.

Ex:  Just how good can a full caster be at melee? -> A sorcerer with +6 inherent str&con and animal companion that changed shape with w/ him when he threw transmutation spells.

Ex:  Just how much damage can I get a rogue to do with one swing/shot? ->   :-D

EDIT: Just noting that the sorcerer would not work here due to archetype restrictions and house rules re: wildblooded.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:08, Sun 16 Aug 2015.
Ario
462 Battle Points, 108 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 02:19
  • msg #399

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ario is looking for a fight.  He'd particularly like to shake Tuong down for his lunch money, but he'd be willing to fight someone else if they wanted.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 128 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 02:21
  • msg #400

Re: OOC Discussion 5

soon as my match closes out im in
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 149 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 02:26
  • msg #401

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You're a tricksy little rouge and I don't like you. Saying that, I'd be up for a match once mine gets closed out.
Ario
462 Battle Points, 109 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 02:47
  • msg #402

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Free for all then?  (once you're closed out)

How's:

Map: Random Small
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: Standard
Walls: Standard
Extras: Everyone can pick an extra 1 gp item to have.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 151 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 02:54
  • msg #403

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So your tricksy little rouge can get a free sap?

Sure, but only if you add no stealth/invis as well.

Map: Random Small
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: Standard
Walls: Standard
Extras: Everyone can pick an extra 1 gp item to have, no stealth or invisibility.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 129 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 03:00
  • msg #404

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Wait, guys... Please?

Map: Random Small
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: ICE
Walls: Standard
Extras: Everyone can pick an extra 1 gp item to have, no stealth or invisibility.
Ario
462 Battle Points, 110 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 03:18
  • msg #405

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I can't tell if you're both being serious or joking with me (the internet needs to come with tones).

Fighter v Fighter v Rogue, the no stealth/invis is only penalizing one of us, and unless something big is getting offered in return it's a total deal breaker.

How about:

Map: Random Small
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: Ice
Walls: Standard
Extras: Everyone can pick an extra 1 gp item to have, hidden on the map
Panian
455 Battle Points, 130 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 03:29
  • msg #406

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm being serious about Ice. My 1gp item would go to ice skates and then i can get the hockey fight i so desperately want.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 153 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 03:33
  • msg #407

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Actually... Yes.  I am okay with this.

As soon as our match gets closed up, I'm good to go.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 131 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 03:39
  • msg #408

Re: OOC Discussion 5

What does hidden on the map mean? I know it sounds obvious, but i havent seen that term before
Tinny Tina
693 Battle Points, 229 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 03:40
  • msg #409

Re: OOC Discussion 5

It sounds to me like you're admitting to not having read the Errata, FAQ & Rulings thread.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 132 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 03:41
  • msg #410

Re: OOC Discussion 5

It sounds to me like I don't remember every single thing I read.
Ario
462 Battle Points, 111 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 03:43
  • msg #411

Re: OOC Discussion 5

It's in the house rules, basically even if someone is hidden from other characters, they are revealed on the map and players get to know where they are and what they are doing.  The hidden character gets cover (in addition to concealment, if applicable) instead of keeping their actual location secret.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 133 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 03:45
  • msg #412

Re: OOC Discussion 5

This is starting to sound like too much Fun™ for me. Y'all can have fun with that match. I'm gonna crunch some numbers from the Creation thread and see if it's time for me to retrain or not
Ario
462 Battle Points, 112 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 03:59
  • msg #413

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well, after deleting Panian's Fun ICETM? how does this sound, Brakt?

Map: Random Small
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: Standard
Walls: Standard
Extras: Everyone can pick an extra 1 gp item to have, hidden on the map
Edward Doyle Remington III
470 Battle Points, 216 posts
Half-orc
Investigator 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 04:01
  • msg #414

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Regarding favorite character types, mine are generally self-buffers or characters with a really interesting trick of some sort.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 154 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 04:06
  • msg #415

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah, no.

I'm not giving you a Sap to pick on me without taking away your ability to balance.  I want the Ice left, though I still have my doubts about fighting you at all, after watching you pick on Latro.

Let me get a few more BP, and then I'll think about it.
Ario
462 Battle Points, 113 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 04:22
  • msg #416

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well, as usual vs Latro, I did some really awesome stuff... and lost.  (Can there be a special mention award for having intimidating losses?)  I've been performing too well for my own good, and losing too hard to at least get good BP's on those performances.

For the map, I didn't realize that the ice was something you wanted and weren't just conceding to Panian.  I'm completely fine with putting it back:

Map: Random Small
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: ICE
Walls: Standard
Extras: Everyone can pick an extra 1 gp item to have, hidden on the map
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 156 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 04:35
  • msg #417

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Ario - Lets wait till my match with Panian gets closed out.  I'll be happy to remove hidden on the map if you're happy to use ranged weapons only (Haha, I know)

Because I'm built for reach combat, fighting against someone who is going to bash me at close range while invisible means I have a 0 chance of winning.

Once I get some More BP though Ario, you're on!


My favourite class is something that relies on Dex increasing AC and damage at the same time.
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 805 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 04:52
  • msg #418

Re: OOC Discussion 5

My favorite class is something that give me opportunities to role play and in all honesty, thats the reason i'm an Antipaladin. I know Antipaladin's aren't exactly top tier classes like wizards or druids or anything because they're a hybrid class and by their nature, are more support classes than anything. (Aka, they're the class the fifth player in a party of four picks when they join the group because the four essential roles have been filled.)

Doesn't stop me from playing them though as i really like the support classes. when you're not the best at one thing in particular, you have to make up for it by role playing. :P

And then there's barbarians. ;)
Ario
462 Battle Points, 114 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 05:04
  • msg #419

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So, back to square one: anyone up for fighting Ario?
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 806 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 05:13
  • msg #420

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ario:
So, back to square one: anyone up for fighting Ario?


Hey buddy. ;)
Panian
455 Battle Points, 134 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 05:33
  • msg #421

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Latro, I'll fight you too once my match is closed. Maybe a 2v1 to even the odds?
This message was last edited by the player at 05:33, Mon 17 Aug 2015.
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 808 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 05:43
  • msg #422

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I can take you both on if you like or we can make things interesting and do a free for all. Should you two work together for some odd reason and take me down, then you get the wonderful task of trying to kill each other! :D

Seeing as we're in the middle of an update and posting in the sheet work thread is ill advised by GM arkrim himself, I guess my only choice is to attempt to rack up BP!
This message was last edited by the player at 06:00, Mon 17 Aug 2015.
Brakt
361 Battle Points, 158 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 05:52
  • msg #423

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'll look for a match after my current one gets closed out.  :D
Edward Doyle Remington III
470 Battle Points, 217 posts
Half-orc
Investigator 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 06:03
  • msg #424

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Latro Dectus:
I know Antipaladin's aren't exactly top tier classes like wizards or druids or anything because they're a hybrid class and by their nature, are more support classes than anything. (Aka, they're the class the fifth player in a party of four picks when they join the group because the four essential roles have been filled.)

Doesn't stop me from playing them though as i really like the support classes. when you're not the best at one thing in particular, you have to make up for it by role playing. :P

I would definitely dispute this . . . aside from there not really being 'four essential roles' in my opinion, paladins/antipaladins are generally pretty strong martial characters.  Though they lose a decent bit if they can't reliably use their smite, so in arena combat they may be weaker than normal.
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 809 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 06:07
  • msg #425

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Edward Doyle Remington III:
Though they lose a decent bit if they can't reliably use their smite, so in arena combat they may be weaker than normal.


considering no one ever plays good aligned characters in this, yeah, im at a pretty big deficit. If i could smite LAW however, I could actually do something.

I all honesty, i thing Me, opal, and maybe one or two other players actually have a moral component to our alignment. Everyone else is boring and neutral in their morality. Especially you darn spell caster. :P


As far as the four essential classes go i think you pretty much have to plan around the fact that the DM is going to throw a variety of things at you and if you don't have someone to fill a certain roll - say a rouge for instance - then your going to be falling prey to traps more often than not.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:12, Mon 17 Aug 2015.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 135 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 06:08
  • msg #426

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 425):

I play a good character~
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 810 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 06:09
  • msg #427

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian:
In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 425):

I play a good character~


:DDDDDDDDDDD

GET READY TO DIE SUCKER!!!!!!!!
Panian
455 Battle Points, 136 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 06:10
  • msg #428

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Good. Kill me quick with your big BP so I can at least earn more BP for my retraining~~
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 811 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 06:23
  • msg #429

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hmmm. If i 1v1 you i'll get 39 bp when i kill you. But if you bring a friend, i'll get even more bp. decisions, decisions. ;P


dude, i could just offer a service to low BP combatants.

"fight Latro - get your ass handed to you, still get a large amount of BP for dieing!"
This message was last edited by the player at 06:25, Mon 17 Aug 2015.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 137 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 06:31
  • msg #430

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well, unless my math is wrong, i get 65BP from losing to you.

EDIT: If by some dice roller miracle I win, that's 195 BP... The desire to fight you intensifies.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:32, Mon 17 Aug 2015.
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 812 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 06:49
  • msg #431

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian:
EDIT: If by some dice roller miracle I win, that's 195 BP... The desire to fight you intensifies.


I've got you at getting 206 BP if you win. unless your BP listed under your name is wrong.

Even if you brought someone like Ario with you, thats still 102 BP for both of you if you win where as for me its 78 BP if I win and a bit more manageable 26 BP if i lose as opposed to 13 BP if you beat me single handedly.

alas, its nearly 2 AM for me and i have to be at work at 9 AM so i bid you all a good evening.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 138 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 06:51
  • msg #432

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I factored in the 23BP I will probably get from Brakt, which will have me at 478BP after the match closes.
Nyssa Quess
438 Battle Points, 91 posts
Vanara
Inquisitor 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 06:54
  • msg #433

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Latro Dectus:
considering no one ever plays good aligned characters in this, yeah, im at a pretty big deficit. If i could smite LAW however, I could actually do something.

I all honesty, i thing Me, opal, and maybe one or two other players actually have a moral component to our alignment. Everyone else is boring and neutral in their morality. Especially you darn spell caster. :P

Hey, Nyssa has one!  (Given that I use the Friendship subdomain of the Good domain, I sort of have to.)

Latro Dectus:
As far as the four essential classes go i think you pretty much have to plan around the fact that the DM is going to throw a variety of things at you and if you don't have someone to fill a certain roll - say a rouge for instance - then your going to be falling prey to traps more often than not.

Eh, skillmonkey/trapfinder (and other non-combat roles) can easily be overlapped with combat roles -- Edward can trapfind and skillmonkey similar to a rouge (well, in theory), but is also a formidable melee combatant, and could also buff the party if I spent a talent on that instead of only combat stuff.

For combat, you should have someone focused on melee, and a spellcaster who focuses on buff/debuff or on battlefield control.  A ranged focused character might be nice, but as long as everyone has secondary ranged attacks, you're probably good.
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 642 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 10:27
  • msg #434

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey Latro, how about we do that epic monster hunt with Hiro before you smash some kids for no good reason?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5660 posts
Game Master
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 13:13
  • msg #435

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Alright guys, I've got a lot of working coming up. In the next few weeks, I may not be online as much as usual or at all but I'll keeping trying to check in when I can. Just a heads up that everything might slow down a bit more than usual.
Ario
462 Battle Points, 115 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 14:12
  • msg #436

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
Hey Latro, how about we do that epic monster hunt with Hiro before you smash some kids for no good reason?


Fun and profit are great reasons for him coming to smash us kids.

If another wants 1-2 want to join in on a Battle Royale with me and Latro, I'd be up for it... especially if they'd let me get a standard (non masterwork) sap as a condition (I've been waiting to put in sheetwork for a while as the new update isn't out yet, and I hate to waste the free rebuild just to spend 1 gp).
Thraxis
493 Battle Points, 143 posts
Half-orc (493 BP)
Summoner 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 14:12
  • msg #437

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I hope it's the fun/profit kind of extra work, and not just stress.
Panian
455 Battle Points, 139 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 14:39
  • msg #438

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Ario (msg # 436):

Brakt mentioned to me last night he wanted in on an FFA with you and Latro.
Ario
462 Battle Points, 116 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 14:48
  • msg #439

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Awesome!  Going with previous suggestions from most of the group, how's:

Ario vs Latro vs Panian vs Brakt
Map: Random
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: ICE
Walls: Standard
Extras: Everyone can pick an extra 1 gp item to have, hidden on the map

(I think we've all added something to it except Latro.)
Panian
455 Battle Points, 140 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 14:49
  • msg #440

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Ario (msg # 439):

Take off that Ice terrain; i wanna make this fight a quick one
Hiro
1,707 Battle Points, 961 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 15:20
  • msg #441

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
Hey Latro, how about we do that epic monster hunt with Hiro before you smash some kids for no good reason?

I second that motion - let's see what the biggest, baddest thing we can kill is :)
Panian
455 Battle Points, 141 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 15:25
  • msg #442

Re: OOC Discussion 5

C'mon now, give us no-good, rotten kids a chance to get slammed for some BP! We needs it!
Edward Doyle Remington III
470 Battle Points, 218 posts
Half-orc
Investigator 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 16:37
  • msg #443

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
Josep Gavinho:
Hey Latro, how about we do that epic monster hunt with Hiro before you smash some kids for no good reason?

I second that motion - let's see what the biggest, baddest thing we can kill is :)

If you need someone to control the monster due to lack of GMs, I'll volunteer.  Kill my guildmaster, heheh!
Maelstrom
717 Battle Points, 258 posts
Human
Monk 8
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 18:01
  • msg #444

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus

I am lawful good. Though most people have neutral something. You know we are more alike than we think, we both have conviction :P
Edward Doyle Remington III
470 Battle Points, 219 posts
Half-orc
Investigator 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 18:43
  • msg #445

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Don't worry Latro, I'm planning that if I ever leave my current guild (though it's a cool one, don't know that'll happen), I'm going to start a Good-aligned guild specifically to be a rival for your guild.
Edward Doyle Remington III
470 Battle Points, 220 posts
Half-orc
Investigator 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 18:46
  • msg #446

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Tinny Tina:
"Oh, would you like to fly too? Well I can help you! Simply think wonderful thoughts, and with some of my pixie dust, you can fly too!"


Love this quote.  Also the 'oops, wrong bag,' but this part especially.
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 813 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 19:06
  • msg #447

Re: OOC Discussion 5

id like to have a second go at a character rework before the monster hunt as I flubbed my first attempt. And I have no idea if the major update GM Arkrim was talking about has been completed yet. As such I'm worried about doing sheetwork so I'd like to just battle for BP amd Hero Points and get myself ready to do a monster hunt of that caliber. (Also I need to get ready to take Hiro's belt from him before Josep has the chance. Too many fools getting in Hiro and I's long standing rivalry)

@Doyle - in the words of Shia LeBouf: "DO IT! JUST DO IT! Yesterday, you said tomorrow, so JUST! DO IT!!!" (Also there better be a paladin in that guild of yours or I won't consider them a true antithesis to my guild. ;P
This message was last edited by the player at 19:23, Mon 17 Aug 2015.
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 643 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 20:23
  • msg #448

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Aww come on Latro! Don't be a killjoy.
Are you gonna say no to killing an Ancient White with friends rivals?
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 814 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 20:48
  • msg #449

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
Aww come on Latro! Don't be a killjoy.
Are you gonna say no to killing an Ancient White with friends rivals?

Is that an ancient white as in an ancient white dragon? If so, make it a good aligned dragon and I'll take you up on it. I can't do much of anything against a non-good dragon. At least with a good dragon I can smite it and get all those delicious bonuses I never have the chance to get.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:51, Mon 17 Aug 2015.
Josep Gavinho
842 Battle Points, 644 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 20:52
  • msg #450

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sure, a silver dracosire, why not! We don't get to chose though.
Actually we could chose, at the price of 1HP each... I could live with that.
Panian
478 Battle Points, 142 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 21:22
  • msg #451

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Latro @Brakt @Ario

The match is closed out! How about this:

Map: Large Coliseum
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: Standard
Walls: Standard masonry
Extras: Hidden on map

I figured I'd throw Ario his hidden on map bone but would have to make his own concealment ;)
Ario
462 Battle Points, 117 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 21:30
  • msg #452

Re: OOC Discussion 5

The hidden on map bone was for you and Brakt in exchange for letting me have my 1 gp item line in (which I would still like) - otherwise you'll have no clue where Ario is hiding.  I'm seriously getting screwed by the lack of a melee weapon, and I still don't want to burn my free rebuild to spend 1 gp before the foretold update actually happens.
Panian
478 Battle Points, 143 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 21:37
  • msg #453

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If you're having gear problems, I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but a sap ain't one.

Map: Large Coliseum
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: Standard
Walls: Standard masonry
Extras: None

We can get this over quick and be on our merry way once we have more BP from the match, but not having a melee weapon was a consideration you should have made at character creation.

@Latro how about the terms above?
Josep Gavinho
1,024 Battle Points, 646 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 21:46
  • msg #454

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'd like to apply to most damage in one round with 142 in my latest fight with Hiro !
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 815 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 21:59
  • msg #455

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@ joseph and hiro, would you guys mind if i beat up a few small fries, got some BP and a hero point or two and then joined you guys for the epic monster hunt? Having the extra Hero point for the epic battle after we spend a Hero Point to select our monster will be a huge boon to me. Especially if i cant get a full character sheet update before we go monster hunting.


As for the free for all, i would like a single prep round seeing as those no longer come standard. But that's pretty much it.

Map: Large Coliseum
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: Standard
Walls: Standard masonry
Extras: 1 prep round
This message was last edited by the player at 22:29, Mon 17 Aug 2015.
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 816 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 22:04
  • msg #456

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Seeing as we're applying for arena records as well right now:

Latro Dectus:
I think Latro now holds the record for most damage dealt in one blow and Tuong holds the record for most damage taken in one blow at 102 total damage. This means he also ties with Ugrim for the most damage taken in one round. Message #38
link to a message in this game

Congratulations Tuong. You're making Arena history as we speak! :D

Ario
462 Battle Points, 118 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 22:08
  • msg #457

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian:
words


1- I got gauntlets but did not realize that they don't make you count as armed without the Improved Unarmed Strike Feat until it was pointed out to me.  Since then I've been waiting on updates.

2- I'd really like to be in this fight (as I'm the one who made the original challenge), but forcing me to fight reach combat characters without a freaking 1 gp item is the suck.  (Especially after stripping out any kind potential kind of terrain for me to hid behind in this Fighter vs Fighter vs Antipaladin vs Rogue fight where I'm running with the lowest bp total.)

I'm willing to concede to Latro's 1 prep round addition and Panian's removal of all terrain if you're willing to retain the 1 gp item line.

Map: Large Coliseum
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: Standard
Walls: Standard masonry
Extras: 1 prep round, Everyone gets a 1 gp item
Tinny Tina
693 Battle Points, 233 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 22:09
  • msg #458

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 455):

It already shows you as having the record, but the link is malformed (but easily fixed, and points to the right post if fixed) and it has the wrong damage total for some reason.
Panian
478 Battle Points, 144 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 22:15
  • msg #459

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Map: Cliffhanger Large
Lighting: Standard
Terrain: Standard
Walls: Standard masonry
Extras: 1 prep round, Everyone gets a 1 gp item

Let's try this map out, then.

@Ario @Latro @Brakt
Ario
462 Battle Points, 119 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Mon 17 Aug 2015
at 22:17
  • msg #460

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sounds good.  I'll put it up.
Brakt
474 Battle Points, 160 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Tue 18 Aug 2015
at 01:10
  • msg #461

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I hate this waiting :(
Panian
478 Battle Points, 146 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Tue 18 Aug 2015
at 02:02
  • msg #462

Re: OOC Discussion 5

from Ario:
1- I got gauntlets but did not realize that they don't make you count as armed without the Improved Unarmed Strike Feat until it was pointed out to me.  Since then I've been waiting on updates.


Are they spiked gauntlets?
Ario
462 Battle Points, 121 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Tue 18 Aug 2015
at 02:21
  • msg #463

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Nope, or there wouldn't have been the problem.
Panian
478 Battle Points, 147 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Tue 18 Aug 2015
at 02:44
  • msg #464

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If you can squeeze 5gp out of equipment bought with your BP already, look into the cestus and see if that strikes your fancy
Ario
462 Battle Points, 122 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Tue 18 Aug 2015
at 03:07
  • msg #465

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Interesting idea, thanks.
Panian
478 Battle Points, 149 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Tue 18 Aug 2015
at 05:07
  • msg #466

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I've looked through the Arena Competition Rules and the Errata, FAQ, and Rulings thread but couldn't find a lick of rules regarding the hybridization funnel wondrous item that can combine two splash weapons. Granted, I didn't look in past OOC threads to see if it has come up before, but how would hybridized splash weapons work? They take about 10 minutes each pair to mix and that's obviously not going to happen in a fight. Would they be a special condition agreed upon? Something like "Special Conditions: Hybridized splash weapons"?
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 819 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Tue 18 Aug 2015
at 05:09
  • msg #467

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I imagine you might request that your opponent give you the ability to make hybridized splash weapons before the fight and give your opponent something of equal value in return.
Brakt
474 Battle Points, 162 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Tue 18 Aug 2015
at 05:12
  • msg #468

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Alchemy items just hurt my head... Trying to watch Tina's fights hurts it even worse lol
Josep Gavinho
1,024 Battle Points, 647 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Tue 18 Aug 2015
at 07:50
  • msg #469

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Well, seeing as Latro will take some time before we go on our monster hunt... Does anyone feel like trying their luck against Josep? Juggernaut, FFA ... Monster Battle Royale even.
Brakt
474 Battle Points, 165 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Tue 18 Aug 2015
at 07:55
  • msg #470

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Psh.  This won't take long.  3 Melee fighters on cliffhanger is going to end up a battle for control of the middle, and we'll drop like flies.

We were all online at the same time for about 20 minutes today I think, so if we can make that a bit earlier/later, it should be over and done with by tomorrow :P
Hiro
1,721 Battle Points, 963 posts
Dwarf
Monk 11
Tue 18 Aug 2015
at 20:11
  • msg #471

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Dammit, missed being post #25,000....
Josep Gavinho
1,024 Battle Points, 649 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Tue 18 Aug 2015
at 22:46
  • msg #472

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Maelstrom ! Will you fight me?
Brakt
474 Battle Points, 168 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Thu 20 Aug 2015
at 00:37
  • msg #473

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Wow.  You people are exciting :P
Maelstrom
759 Battle Points, 259 posts
Human
Monk 8
Thu 20 Aug 2015
at 00:49
  • msg #474

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
Maelstrom ! Will you fight me?


Er, me? I'd rather go back to my usual routine of not fighting and commenting on the fights of others. But...Well, I have some free retraining to take advantage of. If you're still itching for a fight, sure!
This message was last edited by the player at 00:53, Thu 20 Aug 2015.
Josep Gavinho
1,024 Battle Points, 650 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Thu 20 Aug 2015
at 07:43
  • msg #475

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Anyone else wants to have some fun with Josep?
Haran, you've been quite silent for a while...
Grunyar Fangblood
462 Battle Points, 132 posts
Skinwalker
Summoner 7
Thu 20 Aug 2015
at 22:59
  • msg #476

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Any one wanna duel, I'm up for most anything even Josep if he is alright with lower BP return on a fight or if some one else would join could do a jauggernaut
This message was last edited by the player at 23:27, Thu 20 Aug 2015.
Josep Gavinho
1,024 Battle Points, 651 posts
Human
Sorcerer 10
Thu 20 Aug 2015
at 23:01
  • msg #477

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Juggernaut sounds good. If we don't have anything set up by Friday night UTC I might post sheet work though.
Ario
462 Battle Points, 127 posts
Human
Unchained Rogue 6
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 01:40
  • msg #478

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Anyone willing to be an environment monitor in the Brakt/Panian/Latro/Me fight?
Ugrim
807 Battle Points, 429 posts
Orc [SC]
Barbarian/Fighter 8
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 01:43
  • msg #479

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ario:
Anyone willing to be an environment monitor in the Brakt/Panian/Latro/Me fight?

I'll do it!

(Don't let me do it. I'm one of Latro's other characters. ;P)
Brakt
474 Battle Points, 170 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 01:53
  • msg #480

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Holy crap, are we actually all online at the same time? :P

Ario - I'm happy to use Hidden or have an environment volunteer, doesn't bother me.  Please though, try and move or attack before you vanish.  I can't reach you, I swear! >_>

Panian, hurry up and post!
Edward Doyle Remington III
470 Battle Points, 221 posts
Half-orc
Investigator 6
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 02:03
  • msg #481

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ario:
Anyone willing to be an environment monitor in the Brakt/Panian/Latro/Me fight?

I can do it.
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 823 posts
Human [SC]
Antipaladin 9
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 03:33
  • msg #482

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt:
Holy crap, are we actually all online at the same time? :P

Ario - I'm happy to use Hidden or have an environment volunteer, doesn't bother me.  Please though, try and move or attack before you vanish.  I can't reach you, I swear! >_>

Panian, hurry up and post!


Doesn't seem Panian is on right now. He has his allotted time fram to post though so i'm not worried.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:41, Fri 21 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5669 posts
Game Master
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 04:23
  • msg #483

Re: OOC Discussion 5


ANNOUNCEMENT

The long awaited new sheetwork and challenge rules are here! Sehly and I have been working hard on these and finally we've gotten here. No more detailed sheetwork restrictions or charges or nitpicky rules for character alterations. Now, just a simple sweet and short section as listed below. We will be opening your sheets shortly. I encourage everyone to also read the new CHALLENGE rules when you can. Enjoy!



Character Creation:
CHANGING CHARACTERS

Gladiator Type: Upon character creation, each character is assigned one of three gladiator types: Adept, Expert or Warrior. Based on their type, they are restricted to what classes they may select.
    Adept: Must have at least 3/4 of all their levels in a class that has 9th level spells on spell list.

    Warrior: Must have at least 3/4 of all their levels in a class that has a full BAB progression.

    Expert: Must not meet the prerequisites of either Adept or Warrior.

So long as you stay within the restrictions of your gladiator type, you can edit/remake an existing character at any time (except during a match). Once you have entered a match, your character sheet will be closed. If your sheet does not match the challenge post TO THE LETTER, you will be disqualified from the match immediately, even if the error is just a typo or accident.

Altering Stats: You can reset a character completely, wiping the slate clean changing their name, description, gladiator type, portrait and resetting their leader board scores to 0. Doing this costs you 1% of your maximum BP and 1 of your hero points but it is the only way to reset/change your name, gladiator type and/or leader board scores.

Additional Characters: After your 1st character becomes a veteran (10 PvP battles or more), you can make a 2nd character at no cost. After your 2nd character becomes a veteran, you can make a 3rd character. Your characters cannot trade with or compete against each other and you cannot have more than 3 characters total.

This message was last edited by the GM at 04:29, Fri 21 Aug 2015.
Brakt
474 Battle Points, 172 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 04:25
  • msg #484

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Arkrim @Sehly

This is amazing, thank you!

I can't wait to try this out :)
Panian
478 Battle Points, 152 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 04:43
  • msg #485

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sorry, Battle Royale Crew, I got tied up in something and my meds are about to kick into overdrive and I'll crash hard.

@GMs, though, I like the idea of this new system as it allows more experienced players to help inexperienced players discover new combat builds and perhaps try out things they never have before. A question, however: Can folks who didn't use the free-retraining from the BP update use it for a complete character reset?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5670 posts
Game Master
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 05:30
  • msg #486

Re: OOC Discussion 5

The free retraining will no longer apply, as it is no longer necessary. The sheetwork thread itself will be discontinued.

We'll be assigning Gladiator Types based on your current builds and opening character sheets.
Latro Dectus
1,046 Battle Points, 824 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 06:20
  • msg #487

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I imagine that if a GM runs through our character sheet and finds something amiss then we'll get penalized for it as usual. But this is really awesome! Can't wait to mess around in it!
This message was last updated by the player at 06:51, Fri 21 Aug 2015.
Brakt
474 Battle Points, 174 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 06:40
  • msg #488

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Battle Royale Guys

I've got a 3 day weekend this week (Yay!) so won't be able to post till about 11AM AEST (1AM GMT) Monday morning. (Boo :( )

I would really appreciate it if you didn't call 48 hours on me during this time, but understand if you do.

I will try and get a post up if I can before hand off my phone though :)
This message was last edited by the player at 06:45, Fri 21 Aug 2015.
Panian
478 Battle Points, 153 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 06:40
  • msg #489

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Damn. I was hoping to get the chance to switch up pretty much everything about this character.
Madam Opal
359 Battle Points, 502 posts
Adept
Shadow's Caress
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 06:53
  • msg #490

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian:
Damn. I was hoping to get the chance to switch up pretty much everything about this character.

You still can, but you can do it for freeAT ANY POINT IN TIME!!!!!! (except during a match)


So for us crafters, seeing as all our crafting and items are happening in our sheet work now, should we list our links for crafting in the GM notes section or what?
Panian
478 Battle Points, 154 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 06:59
  • msg #491

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Id rather be in the Expert type bracket with Panian. Switch up the name and race too
Hiro
1,721 Battle Points, 964 posts
Warrior
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 13:38
  • msg #492

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian:
Id rather be in the Expert type bracket with Panian. Switch up the name and race too


Then that costs you 1% of your BP, but is still doable, as far as I can tell.
Tinny Tina
693 Battle Points, 252 posts
Wyrwood
Alchemist 8
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 13:53
  • msg #493

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah, but I'm sure he'd rather do it for free.

Since there's no more sheetwork thread, does that mean we need to contact the GMs directly if we want to unban material or join a guild?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5671 posts
Game Master
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 14:15
  • msg #494

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 487):
Only if we find a small error during a match is there a small penalty.

If we find a major error or lots of small errors, it's eventually a disqualification.

But the only "errors" are simply things that go against the RAW/errata or simply something you have not agreed to. Since everyone has to agree to their race/class/level/BP amount before each match, it will be obvious who has a matching sheet and who does not when a dispute pops up.

Note, you CAN agree to ignore Arena errata and/or Arena Immunities. This is essentially Hardcore mode. I don't recommend it, but it's available for anyone who can convince some poor sucker--erhm, I mean, brave soul to agree to it.


In reply to Panian (msg # 491):
I haven't assigned you a gladiator type. I'll assign you to Expert and you'll need to change him to something that is neither Warrior nor Adept. We'll call that your free retraining. If anyone else wants a new gladiator type as their retraining before they switch over, let me know.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:20, Fri 21 Aug 2015.
Panian
478 Battle Points, 155 posts
Human
Fighter 5
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 15:01
  • msg #495

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thank you kindly, Arkrim!
Vile Ann
692 Battle Points, 270 posts
Warrior
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 17:36
  • msg #496

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sehly, are you still up for doing my Endurance Challenge?
GM Sehlysdre
GM, 1012 posts
Arbiter
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 21:48
  • msg #497

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Madam Opal:
So for us crafters, seeing as all our crafting and items are happening in our sheet work now, should we list our links for crafting in the GM notes section or what?


We simplified crafting with the BP changeover. Just make sure your 'take 10' crafting checks are enough to make the item and then list it with an asterisk (*) at the start of the line and the halved GP value. At the bottom of the item list add: "*Half-price listed here due to crafting (normally costs double)" as a new line. I'm pretty sure everyone that has crafted items now already has things in this format on their sheets.

Vile Ann:
Sehly, are you still up for doing my Endurance Challenge?

If you want to I can get it started on Monday, since I probably won't be around much on the weekend.
Panian
478 Battle Points, 157 posts
Expert
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 21:57
  • msg #498

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hold on: Seeing as I was going to (and still will now that im having a type change) retrain to a drow alchemist, are crafted splash weapons and whatnot considered ammunition for the item slots on the sheet or would I count each individually?
Tinny Tina
693 Battle Points, 253 posts
Expert
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 22:17
  • msg #499

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm stacking my alchemical items and haven't been yelled at yet, so I assume treating them as ammo is alright.
Panian
478 Battle Points, 158 posts
Expert
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 22:33
  • msg #500

Re: OOC Discussion 5

After I retrain to the alchemist, I wanna have a bomb battle >:D
Vile Ann
692 Battle Points, 271 posts
Warrior
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 22:39
  • msg #501

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Sehlysdre:
Madam Opal:
So for us crafters, seeing as all our crafting and items are happening in our sheet work now, should we list our links for crafting in the GM notes section or what?


We simplified crafting with the BP changeover. Just make sure your 'take 10' crafting checks are enough to make the item and then list it with an asterisk (*) at the start of the line and the halved GP value. At the bottom of the item list add: "*Half-price listed here due to crafting (normally costs double)" as a new line. I'm pretty sure everyone that has crafted items now already has things in this format on their sheets.

Vile Ann:
Sehly, are you still up for doing my Endurance Challenge?

If you want to I can get it started on Monday, since I probably won't be around much on the weekend.

That works great!
Grunyar Fangblood
462 Battle Points, 135 posts
Expert
Fri 21 Aug 2015
at 22:54
  • msg #502

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Just asking to make sure I understand as long as I stay in expert, leave name, portrait, ... I can doing about any changes I want like I can change to an alchemist or Inquisitor without any cost?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5674 posts
Game Master
Sat 22 Aug 2015
at 02:16
  • msg #503

Re: OOC Discussion 5

That's a good question. It's too bad there aren't notice threads that clearly answer them in a plain English. If there were, people would be able to read them, comprehend their meaning and know the answer using only the most rudimentary literacy skills. If only you knew that you could "doing about any changes you want". I know I want to "can doing about any changes I want", that'd be great.


Grunyar Fangblood
462 Battle Points, 136 posts
Expert
Sat 22 Aug 2015
at 02:33
  • msg #504

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah my grammar sucks even though english is my first language.  Guess just seems like alot of freedom for us so I was just asking.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5675 posts
Game Master
Sat 22 Aug 2015
at 05:43
  • msg #505

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Everybody's grammar sucks on the internet. We're so eager to say and ask what we want, we don't bother to check if we actually did. I'm just poking fun at the need to even ask the question to begin with.
GM Sehlysdre
GM, 1021 posts
Arbiter
Sat 22 Aug 2015
at 07:13
  • msg #506

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Everyone that's been converted to BP should be updated to the newest sheet (very minor alterations from when we did conversion), and those not in matches should be able to edit to their heart's content now :-).

Don't forget to check out the new challenge format. With the openness of the sheets, we're going to be more strict with those being posted correctly.

Also, with great power (options) comes greater responsibility. You guys need to be sure to report potential cheating/errors (inadvertent or not), as we won't be reviewing every change people make unless it gets pointed out to us.

Finally, a friendly reminder that if you're not converted to BP yet, you still need to let us know to do that. Those not converted will end up being deleted.
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:15, Sat 22 Aug 2015.
Vile Ann
Warrior 692 BP, 272 posts
Warrior
Sat 22 Aug 2015
at 18:41
  • msg #507

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Vile Ann:
GM Sehlysdre:
Madam Opal:
So for us crafters, seeing as all our crafting and items are happening in our sheet work now, should we list our links for crafting in the GM notes section or what?


We simplified crafting with the BP changeover. Just make sure your 'take 10' crafting checks are enough to make the item and then list it with an asterisk (*) at the start of the line and the halved GP value. At the bottom of the item list add: "*Half-price listed here due to crafting (normally costs double)" as a new line. I'm pretty sure everyone that has crafted items now already has things in this format on their sheets.

Vile Ann:
Sehly, are you still up for doing my Endurance Challenge?

If you want to I can get it started on Monday, since I probably won't be around much on the weekend.

That works great!


Sehly, I just realized that my updated build is on my computer at work, so I can't update my character sheet until then, so if you'd hold off a bit on opening the thread on Monday that'd be great :)
GM Arkrim
GM, 5678 posts
Game Master
Sun 23 Aug 2015
at 03:12
  • msg #508

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Sehlysdre:
Finally, a friendly reminder that if you're not converted to BP yet, you still need to let us know to do that. Those not converted will end up being deleted.

Seriously guys. We're 3 weeks away from the deadline. Time is running out for those who haven't gotten off their lazy bums and converted. I can see that more than half of those who are not yet converted have logged in since we started making making these announcements. There are no excuses at this point.
Tinny Tina
Expert 693 BP, 259 posts
Expert
Sun 23 Aug 2015
at 03:27
  • msg #509

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I imagine a number of them haven't actually read anything, and are just clicking on the game to get rid of the red numbers.

Though it does make me wonder about that one person who made a single post back in November and never posted again. And then there's Ghavakus/Thumock, who actually made a post in this thread, but didn't bother to make the single post per character it takes to be converted.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 826 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sun 23 Aug 2015
at 03:31
  • msg #510

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Oh i've been pestering them. Even if they don't respond to me. If i lose them i'm back to just me and my other characters in my guild. Which sucks. Cause hiro and Joseph always take any other eligible candidates away from me.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:31, Sun 23 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5679 posts
Game Master
Sun 23 Aug 2015
at 03:45
  • msg #511

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well, now that we've dramatically reduced paperwork, it will be easier for more players to join. If you guys have other friends online or IRL who think they'd have fun competitively fighting in a d20 arena, feel free to invite them.

I know if I were not the GM and were competing in a game like this I'd be inviting all my friends who play d20 to join my guild and win the game of thrones---erhm, I mean the arena championship...
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 827 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sun 23 Aug 2015
at 16:01
  • msg #512

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well, unfortunately Ghavikus/Thumock is steeped heavily in Law assignments that are taking up all his time. He says he might re-apply to the Arena later though so maybe we'll see him again one day.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 139 posts
Expert
Sun 23 Aug 2015
at 16:17
  • msg #513

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So with the removal of sheet work thread do we just PM a GM if we want to create another gladiator?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5681 posts
Game Master
Sun 23 Aug 2015
at 16:46
  • msg #514

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 512):

He knows all he has to do is post in the sheetwork thread to update right? The GM does all the paperwork. It doesn't take that much effort just to post so we know that you intend to stay in the game. It's hard to imagine someone has enough time to tell you that but not enough time to say "update me" in a single post.


In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 513):

Correct. But there are also new prerequisites to making new characters (see Character Creation thread).
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:48, Sun 23 Aug 2015.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 828 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sun 23 Aug 2015
at 16:52
  • msg #515

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I let him know via PM so we'll see what happens.
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 430 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sun 23 Aug 2015
at 20:13
  • msg #516

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ugrim is accepting challenges! If you think you've got the stuff, fight me!
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 965 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 24 Aug 2015
at 04:33
  • msg #517

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ugrim:
Ugrim is accepting challenges! If you think you've got the stuff, fight me!


Hiro would merrily do battle against anyone who can't shoot frikkin lazer beams.
Vile Ann
Warrior 692 BP, 273 posts
Warrior
Mon 24 Aug 2015
at 13:21
  • msg #518

Re: OOC Discussion 5

OK, My sheet has been updated and I'm ready for my endurance challenge!
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 431 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Mon 24 Aug 2015
at 18:37
  • msg #519

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
Ugrim:
Ugrim is accepting challenges! If you think you've got the stuff, fight me!


Hiro would merrily do battle against anyone who can't shoot frikkin lazer beams.

Are you prepared to bet your belt on it? ;)
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 966 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 24 Aug 2015
at 18:41
  • msg #520

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Ugrim (msg # 519):

That's completely your call... If you beckon for the belt, I am honor bound to accept :)
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 652 posts
Adept
TA
Mon 24 Aug 2015
at 19:05
  • msg #521

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Geee just as I was making ready to claim it! ;)
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 432 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Mon 24 Aug 2015
at 21:06
  • msg #522

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
In reply to Ugrim (msg # 519):

That's completely your call... If you beckon for the belt, I am honor bound to accept :)

More like bellowing, but all the same. I'm ready to duke it out for the belt like never before.

I'd like to make an offer to you to spice things up a bit. We can each choose one 1st lvl spell to have active on us for the first 5 rounds of combat. Sound interesting? Obviously as an extra and we would need to put our chosen spell in a PM to the DM in our initiative posts just so the one who goes second can't counter the effect of the one who goes first.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:18, Mon 24 Aug 2015.
Ario
Expert 462 BP, 132 posts
Expert
Mon 24 Aug 2015
at 22:13
  • msg #523

Re: OOC Discussion 5

We (or I, on behalf of the Latro/Ario/Brakt/Panian brawl)  asked for an environment volunteer prior to the challenge system update, and Edward volunteered with no dissent.  I'm just looking for GM confirmation that he is okay to post if necessary in our thread (should it be necessary) as he was not included in the challenge (which would have been required according to the new policy) and I do not want him to inadvertently take a foul for helping out.
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 967 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Tue 25 Aug 2015
at 02:58
  • msg #524

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ugrim:
Hiro:
In reply to Ugrim (msg # 519):

That's completely your call... If you beckon for the belt, I am honor bound to accept :)

More like bellowing, but all the same. I'm ready to duke it out for the belt like never before.

I'd like to make an offer to you to spice things up a bit. We can each choose one 1st lvl spell to have active on us for the first 5 rounds of combat. Sound interesting? Obviously as an extra and we would need to put our chosen spell in a PM to the DM in our initiative posts just so the one who goes second can't counter the effect of the one who goes first.


Not on the Belt Match - those should always be straight fights :)

But if you want to try that on a for-fun match that could be interesting.
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 433 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Tue 25 Aug 2015
at 03:23
  • msg #525

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
Not on the Belt Match - those should always be straight fights :)

But if you want to try that on a for-fun match that could be interesting.

Fair enough. I'm guessing you're wearing the belt so i'm going to choose Cliffhanger, Large as the map.

This makes our terms as such:

quote:
Ugrim challenges Hiro.

   Match Type: 1v1 Championship
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit/No Limit
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Ugrim, Advanced Orc, Invulnerable Rager 9/Unbreakable Fighter 1
Participant 2: Hiro, Dwarf, Monk 11
          Map: Cliffhanger, Large
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: None
       Extras: Ugrim Pays 1 Hero Point to enter the Championship Match, Hiro will wear the Belt.

OOC: OOC Banter


If these terms are acceptable and everything seems to be in order, then I'll post it to the Challenge thread. If not, I'll happily take the belt from you for free. ;)
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 968 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Tue 25 Aug 2015
at 03:54
  • msg #526

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sounds good, though I'm an Unchained Monk 11 now, just so things are accurate.
Panian
Expert 478 BP, 160 posts
Expert
Tue 25 Aug 2015
at 04:23
  • msg #527

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Has anyone taken a look at the new Occult classes? Not a single one falls into Warrior class, the Psychic is the only Adept class; everything else is an Expert class in this game. The SRD entries for it are written terribly, though, and I think it needs an errata to clear things up.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 830 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Tue 25 Aug 2015
at 05:42
  • msg #528

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian:
Has anyone taken a look at the new Occult classes? Not a single one falls into Warrior class, the Psychic is the only Adept class; everything else is an Expert class in this game. The SRD entries for it are written terribly, though, and I think it needs an errata to clear things up.


I was unaware of such a thing. Think you could post a link to them so i can check them out.?

Hiro:
though I'm an Unchained Monk 11 now


Wasn't your whole point of playing a regular monk to prove that they were viable? I feel betrayed somehow. ;P
This message was last edited by the player at 05:44, Tue 25 Aug 2015.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 831 posts
Tue 25 Aug 2015
at 05:43
  • [deleted]
  • msg #529

Re: OOC Discussion 5

This message was deleted by the player at 05:44, Tue 25 Aug 2015.
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 179 posts
Warrior
Tue 25 Aug 2015
at 05:49
  • msg #530

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Latro

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/occult...tures/occult-classes


Though I'm not sure if they count as Psionic and are as such banned, or if said ban only applies to 3rd party psionic classes.
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 434 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Tue 25 Aug 2015
at 06:13
  • msg #531

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
Sounds good, though I'm an Unchained Monk 11 now, just so things are accurate.


I will post the challenge sometime tomorrow after work then. I need to make sure that every last thing with my character sheet is spot on and there are no errors in it anywhere. I did just get through revamping Ugrim after all so there are some minor errors here and there that catch my eye every time i go back and look at his sheet.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 653 posts
Adept
TA
Tue 25 Aug 2015
at 07:08
  • msg #532

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ugrim, I like your title!
"Invulnerable Rager, Unbreakable Fighter."
Does kinda sound like the thing you write on a tombstone though.
Maybe you should add "Devoted Husband" behind ;)
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 969 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Tue 25 Aug 2015
at 13:14
  • msg #533

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
though I'm an Unchained Monk 11 now


Wasn't your whole point of playing a regular monk to prove that they were viable? I feel betrayed somehow. ;P
</quote>

I think I proved that quite succinctly :) My next goal is to prove how broken Unchained Monk is :)
Panian
Expert 478 BP, 161 posts
Expert
Tue 25 Aug 2015
at 16:24
  • msg #534

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Brakt (msg # 530):

There is no longer anything in "Exclusively Banned Stuff" about Psionics being banned. It follows that as long as the BP cost is paid, the Occult Adventures book and the Occult Classes and rulesets are not currently banned, but it will likely need to go under GM review. Mostly because of this:

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/occult...-rules/psychic-duels
Krumm
Warrior 567 BP, 242 posts
Warrior
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 00:13
  • msg #535

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm free for matches now, I guess. I don't have any ideas for cool fights though. If Haran's willing to fight Krumm at Krumm's BP level, a rematch would be nice, I guess.

Otherwise... I guess the sky's the limit.
Haran Madar
Adept 608 BP, 209 posts
Adept
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 00:54
  • msg #536

Re: OOC Discussion 5

A rematch? Or do you mean a reconfirmation? Jk. Of course I'll fight you. Don't worry Josep, I saw your challenge. I think I need a few more fights before I challenge you. But don't get it wrong, we will have out rematch.


@Krumm It might be a day or two until I can post the challenge, but how about random everything, one prep round?



I think Tinny Tina is enjoying her fight a bit too much. Lol
This message was last edited by the player at 00:57, Thu 27 Aug 2015.
Thraxis
Expert 549 BP, 159 posts
Expert
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 01:15
  • msg #537

Re: OOC Discussion 5

It looks like my sheet getting unlocked didn't happen after the fight update.  Could I please have that fixed so I can get ready for more fighting?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5686 posts
Game Master
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 02:36
  • msg #538

Re: OOC Discussion 5

PSIONICS are still banned because they are 3rd party.

PSYCHIC MAGIC is not banned, as it is from the new OCCULT ADVENTURES by PAIZO. Yay! All you psionic lovers can get your game on once again. Wooooh!



So, even though you guys have access to your character sheets, ANY alteration of the format, even the slightest tiniest itsy bitsiest detail, will count as inaccurate IF anyone disputes your stats for any reason, founded or unfounded.

So just FYI, if you like WINNING BY MERIT instead of LOSING ON TECHNICALITY: don't alter the format. Change the character, keep the format.




20 days until deletion of everyone who is not on the BP system.

THE CLOCK IS TICKING!
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 654 posts
Adept
TA
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 07:09
  • msg #539

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Latro! Looks like my guys have it in for your guys...

 You and I have better things to do (as soon as Hiro is available anyway...) but what do you say we let them have at it?

 3v3, if the GM will allow it? say 2,000 BP limit to keep things balanced.
 With the help of a third party examiner, we can even keep the identity of the contestants secret until round 1 ;)
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 838 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 07:56
  • msg #540

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
Latro! Looks like my guys have it in for your guys...

 You and I have better things to do (as soon as Hiro is available anyway...) but what do you say we let them have at it?

 3v3, if the GM will allow it? say 2,000 BP limit to keep things balanced.
 With the help of a third party examiner, we can even keep the identity of the contestants secret until round 1 ;)


See sidelines post for answer. :P
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 970 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 13:25
  • msg #541

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 540):

Does this mean you guys are finally ready to go hunting big game???
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 660 posts
Adept
TA
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 13:37
  • msg #542

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 We are! Are you?
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 661 posts
Adept
TA
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 14:15
  • msg #543

Re: OOC Discussion 5


 I even spent my remaining BP on a few trinkets, to be extra-prepared.
 What's it going to be then? Nightcrawler? Winterwight?
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 839 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 14:51
  • msg #544

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Something good aligned for me preferably something that is an outsider, something cold for Joseph so he can nuke it, and something tripable for Hiro because I'm guessing that's still what you do. I'm not sure if such a thing exists in the monster manual but if it does, that's what we need to hunt and kill.

As for me, I need to finish up this FFA with Brakt and Ario, do a little work on my sheet, and then I'll be ready.
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 971 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 15:06
  • msg #545

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 544):

Trippable is just a bonus, but generally "hits things lots of times in very short order" is generally what I do :)
Tinny Tina
Expert 693 BP, 263 posts
Expert
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 15:15
  • msg #546

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If you want "Cold" and "Good", you're basically stuck with Silver Dragons. I mean, there's probably some good-aligned creatures with fire vulnerability not tied to their subtype, but the Monster Search on d20pfsrd simply isn't that robust.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 662 posts
Adept
TA
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 15:23
  • msg #547

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Silver Dragon sounds good.
 Or we can leave it to chance.
Krumm
Warrior 567 BP, 243 posts
Warrior
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 15:32
  • msg #548

Re: OOC Discussion 5

What size silver dragon?

The Thaumaturgical Alliance fought a young one. What will the guildmasters do?
Panian
Expert 478 BP, 164 posts
Expert
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 15:43
  • msg #549

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If the guildmasters are fighting a dragon, I'd love to control it >:D

That being said, can you control a monster in someone's monster hunt and be in a match of your own at the same time?
Tinny Tina
Expert 693 BP, 264 posts
Expert
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 15:48
  • msg #550

Re: OOC Discussion 5

They should fight an Ancient Silver Dragon, that'd be fun :P. 475 HP, 30 Spell Resistance, automatically forces DC 29 Will saves vs. Shaken, can breathe a cone of DC 29 Fort save vs. Paralyzed for 1d6+10 rounds (and they don't get arena immunities either, it's CR is 19), and and it's a 15th level sorcerer too.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 663 posts
Adept
TA
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 16:07
  • msg #551

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Yeah, CR19 might be a little too much... I was looking at CR17 actually.
 Still tough but probably accessible.
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 972 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 16:13
  • msg #552

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
Yeah, CR19 might be a little too much... I was looking at CR17 actually.
 Still tough but probably accessible.


Yea, 17 will be MORE than enough of a challenge :P The CR 19 auto-wins...
Ankou
Expert 450 BP, 205 posts
Expert
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 16:14
  • msg #553

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 664 posts
Adept
TA
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 16:28
  • msg #554

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Well then, what do you say fellow guild masters? Should we get this thing rolling?
 If I understand the rules, by giving a hero point each, we can pick the monster, the terrain and the arena. Sounds good to you?
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 184 posts
Warrior
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 23:43
  • msg #555

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm tryin to finish this up as quickly as possible... Stupid invisible rogues make it hard :(
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 145 posts
Expert
Thu 27 Aug 2015
at 23:58
  • msg #556

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Anyone up for a match, at least 1 prep round, no BP limit

The rest I am open for whatever.
Edward Doyle Remington III
Expert 470 BP, 224 posts
Expert
Fri 28 Aug 2015
at 01:13
  • msg #557

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Either Nyssa or Edward would be happy with that.  Just need to make a few tweak to their sheets, should be done tomorrow.
Haran Madar
Adept 608 BP, 210 posts
Adept
Fri 28 Aug 2015
at 04:06
  • msg #558

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@ Krumm: How does this look?


HARAN MADAR challenges KRUMM.

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Haran Madar, Human, 7
Participant 2: Krumm, Human, 7
Participant 3: {None} or {Name, Race, Class Level} or {Monster Info}
Participant 4: {None} or {Name, Race, Class Level} or {Monster Info}
          Map: Random
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: None

OOC: Friendly smack-talk and sportsmanship.
Krumm
Warrior 567 BP, 245 posts
Warrior
Fri 28 Aug 2015
at 04:30
  • msg #559

Re: OOC Discussion 5

OOC: Yep, friendly smack - talk!

Hrm... I don't need the prep round, and you've already got a nice little buffer in BP there. Can you think of anything to sweeten that pot a little?
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 665 posts
Adept
TA
Fri 28 Aug 2015
at 08:19
  • msg #560

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Also, remember to mention your class in there.

 Hey Guildmasters, where are we on that Dragon hunt?
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 186 posts
Warrior
Fri 28 Aug 2015
at 08:30
  • msg #561

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sorry Josep.  Ario and I are keeping Latro occupied, for at least a while longer.  Hopefully we'll finish this off soon though!
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 666 posts
Adept
TA
Fri 28 Aug 2015
at 09:31
  • msg #562

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hmff..

 Anyone up for a quick fight while we wait for Latro to kill the warrior and the rogue? Or the other way around.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 150 posts
Expert
Fri 28 Aug 2015
at 18:35
  • msg #563

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Any volunteers for referee for Nyssa and I?
Tinny Tina
Expert 693 BP, 267 posts
Expert
Fri 28 Aug 2015
at 19:17
  • msg #564

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ooh, ooh, pick me!
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 151 posts
Expert
Fri 28 Aug 2015
at 19:18
  • msg #565

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thank you
Krumm
Warrior 567 BP, 246 posts
Warrior
Fri 28 Aug 2015
at 20:35
  • msg #566

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Haran I also would like us to fight you as a Bloodrager, with you as a Sorcerer - whatever class (if not build) you were when we first fought.
Haran Madar
Adept 608 BP, 211 posts
Adept
Fri 28 Aug 2015
at 23:54
  • msg #567

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm am actually only spent to about 561, so we are roughly the same bp. I would be willing to remain this way if you grant the prep round. Additionally, I wouldn't mind staying the same class and archetype I was before. If this is all good with you, I'll post the challenge.

Aye, I should add the classes once I have Krumm's agreement.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:06, Sat 29 Aug 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 154 posts
Expert
Sat 29 Aug 2015
at 01:41
  • msg #568

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sooooo quiet tonight :)
Krumm
Warrior 567 BP, 247 posts
Warrior
Sat 29 Aug 2015
at 02:03
  • msg #569

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Alright! Let's do it!
GM Arkrim
GM, 5687 posts
Game Master
Sat 29 Aug 2015
at 02:11
  • msg #570

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Haran Madar (msg # 567):

Even if you artificially lower your BP, you are still counted as your full BP for calculation purposes.

So, matches are slightly less "profitable" if you artificially lower it.

Just FYI.
Haran Madar
Adept 608 BP, 212 posts
Adept
Sat 29 Aug 2015
at 02:52
  • msg #571

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Krumm, here is what I am going to post. As there is no 'standard' terrain or 'standard' walls, I filled those in as 'plains' and dungeon walls.

quote:
HARAN MADAR challenges KRUMM.

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Haran Madar, Human, sorcerer, 7
Participant 2: Krumm, Human, Bloodrager, 7
Participant 3: {None} or {Name, Race, Class Level} or {Monster Info}
Participant 4: {None} or {Name, Race, Class Level} or {Monster Info}
          Map: Random
     Lighting: Standard Light
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Dungeon Walls
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: None

<Orange>OOC: What do Krumm and goldfish have in common? Short-term memories.Orange>


@GMArkrim

Thanks for the heads up. Also I had a clarification about the challenge thread. Would Nyssa and Grunyar's match be considered 'challenge pending,' and thus prevent me from posting my challenge to Krumm?

quote:
You CANNOT...

    Post a challenge while someone else's challenge is pending.

GM Arkrim
GM, 5690 posts
Game Master
Sat 29 Aug 2015
at 03:02
  • msg #572

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Haran Madar (msg # 571):

Correct. Which is why we have a 48 hour window now. If EVERYONE doesn't agree to it in that time frame, it is denied and someone else and put up their challenge.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 155 posts
Expert
Sat 29 Aug 2015
at 03:07
  • msg #573

Re: OOC Discussion 5

The Everyone includes Tinny Tina on our challenge?

Never mind thank Arkrim.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:08, Sat 29 Aug 2015.
Krumm
Warrior 567 BP, 248 posts
Warrior
Sat 29 Aug 2015
at 03:13
  • msg #574

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey Haran!

Your challenge doesn't include your agreement to play at a lower BP level. Class level != Bp. Other than that is good.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5692 posts
Game Master
Sat 29 Aug 2015
at 07:14
  • msg #575

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I have a shameless plug for a tabletop roleplaying game that I'm designing. Trying to build up the game's following before we kickstart it.

If any of you are interested in checking it out, here is the link to the Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/CosmosRPG

I would appreciate any likes or other support you guys can offer, but it is absolutely not required. Just something interesting for you guys to know.

Also, if anyone wants to friend me on FB or join the last wave of the betatesting, feel free to send me a request (but let me know who you are in the message). I'm actually a lot friendlier and more laid back in real life than I am as a GM in the arena (something to do with the stress of trying to be "impartial" I guess).

Anyhoo, I encourage you guys to check it out. We've got a really talented team of artists. If nothing else, it's bound to provide some inspiration.

Here's the old test site: http://www.CosmosD20.com

The final game stats are not on the site but the lore and artwork is still good.
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:16, Sat 29 Aug 2015.
Tinny Tina
Expert 693 BP, 268 posts
Expert
Sat 29 Aug 2015
at 17:27
  • msg #576

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Could a GM close out our Juggernaut match?
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 233 posts
Warrior
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 00:44
  • msg #577

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thanks GM I'm open to edit and have BP added from match, should I wait for an official post in thread before doing anything?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5695 posts
Game Master
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 01:18
  • msg #578

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Official post?
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 234 posts
Warrior
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 01:24
  • msg #579

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM's Xyz wins match, and thread closed however at further inspection I see thread is closed sorry for not beeing clear and not paying attention to details.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5698 posts
Game Master
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 01:29
  • msg #580

Re: OOC Discussion 5

No worries. Win/lose declarations actually aren't necessary. We just do that to give people the feeling of someone "calling" the match.
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 235 posts
Warrior
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 01:38
  • msg #581

Re: OOC Discussion 5

LOL LOL I don't need a reminder, was looking at the art for your game looks interesting.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5699 posts
Game Master
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 01:50
  • msg #582

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I know right? I feel lucky to have met the artists I work with. They are seriously talented.

I'm also super excited that they're doing artwork for MY game. I'm making my own! I feel like a kid again I'm so excited.
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 236 posts
Warrior
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 02:01
  • msg #583

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Whats name of your feline race? Kzinti?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5700 posts
Game Master
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 02:18
  • msg #584

Re: OOC Discussion 5

No. It's not Known Space.

All the playable species names, except saurian, were created from actual myths and lore. Even the greylins are based off the "greys" from urban myths of little green aliens space probing people. :P
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:21, Sun 30 Aug 2015.
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 237 posts
Warrior
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 02:27
  • msg #585

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ah sounds fun, any teasers on system or lore out there didn't see any on FB or website (on a tablet all it is is a pic).
GM Arkrim
GM, 5701 posts
Game Master
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 04:23
  • msg #586

Re: OOC Discussion 5

We have a closed beta test going. If you're looking for lore, you can go to the older beta site but the game stats there are fairly old and haven't been updated:

http://www.Cosmosd20.com

The system is d20 using the old Open Gaming License but it's been altered quite significantly.

Skills are completely new, saving throws and AC have been merged and all special abilities follow a single universal format that's easy to use. If anyone is interested in the beta, give the FB page a like and send me a message. :D
Tinny Tina
Expert 693 BP, 269 posts
Expert
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 05:25
  • msg #587

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey!!!

Someone should fight me!!!!!!!!

or do a monster hunt with me idk

Also someone should update my tag to have the right BP total.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:27, Sun 30 Aug 2015.
Maelstrom
Warrior 759 BP, 264 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 18:27
  • msg #588

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I was also going to say, the artwork is amazing. It's been awhile since I've played a good space rpg. I'll take a look at it!
Bruhli
Warrior 686 BP, 178 posts
Warrior
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 21:23
  • msg #589

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'll fight you Tinny. Standard everything?
This message was last edited by the player at 21:27, Sun 30 Aug 2015.
Tinny Tina
Expert 791 BP, 270 posts
Expert
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 21:53
  • msg #590

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Standard everything sounds good.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:35, Sun 30 Aug 2015.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 845 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 22:32
  • msg #591

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So, like, can we get BP for awesome roleplaying. ;P
GM Arkrim
GM, 5702 posts
Game Master
Sun 30 Aug 2015
at 23:46
  • msg #592

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Awesome roleplay is its own reward.

Plus, it should attract some of the freelancers to consider joining your guilds!
Bruhli
Warrior 686 BP, 179 posts
Warrior
Mon 31 Aug 2015
at 00:34
  • msg #593

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I have no idea what your race and level are, so I'll leave them for you to fill out. I hope the rest looks good!


Bruhli challenges Tinny Tina.

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Bruhli, Suli, Barbarian 8
Participant 2: Tinny Tina,
          Map: Small Coliseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: None
       Extras: None

OOC:
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 846 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Mon 31 Aug 2015
at 05:43
  • msg #594

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Guys, the Role Playing though. Let's seriously keep that thread alive. I love roleplaying. (even more so than roll playing)
This message was last edited by the player at 13:17, Mon 31 Aug 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5704 posts
Game Master
Mon 31 Aug 2015
at 13:12
  • msg #595

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah, seriously, that's some awesome stuff guys!
Vile Ann
Warrior 692 BP, 274 posts
Warrior
Tue 1 Sep 2015
at 18:14
  • msg #596

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sehly, are you still available for my Endurance Challenge?
Krumm
Warrior 567 BP, 249 posts
Warrior
Tue 1 Sep 2015
at 18:16
  • msg #597

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Haran,

Things got busy, but I'll challenge you as soon as I can. (also, I realize I have to fix my sheet before you accept the challenge).
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 192 posts
Warrior
Wed 2 Sep 2015
at 03:14
  • msg #598

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Arkrim

That game sounds intriguing, and I want to know more information.  I don't actually use facebook though except for the sole purpose of contact family.  How can I learn more information?
Thraxis
Expert 549 BP, 160 posts
Expert
Wed 2 Sep 2015
at 03:46
  • msg #599

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro, up for your previously requested summoner match?

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Thraxis, half-orc, Summoner 8
Participant 2: Hiro, ?, Monk ?
          Map: Large Colliseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: none
       Extras: Thraxis cannot attack or cast spells at Hiro directly.  Hiro cannot attack Thraxis.  Hiro wins if he defeats all the summons on the map and Thraxis is unable to summon more.  Thraxis wins if his summons take out Hiro.
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 974 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Wed 2 Sep 2015
at 04:05
  • msg #600

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Thraxis (msg # 599):

I'm going to hold out for the guildmaster monster match...

perhaps later, though!
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 195 posts
Warrior
Wed 2 Sep 2015
at 05:32
  • msg #601

Re: OOC Discussion 5

All right Battle Royale guys, 4 day weekend again.  Which is awesome for me, but sucks cause I won't be online.

Feel free to beat on me and make me defend at 48 hours if you must.  I'd really appreciate it if you guys could be nice though.

Sorry for doing this, I've had this weekend planned for a while, but I never realised the fight would go on this long :(

Thanks.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 667 posts
Adept
TA
Wed 2 Sep 2015
at 05:36
  • msg #602

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro, you should battle Thraxis.
Latro is stole engaged with Brakt and Ario, and I was considering taking Maelstrom's challenge in the meantime.
Thraxis
Expert 549 BP, 162 posts
Expert
Wed 2 Sep 2015
at 22:42
  • msg #603

Re: OOC Discussion 5

(I did not pay Josep to say that.)

So, want to rack up a little extra bp murdering helpless creatures while you wait for the monster hunt?
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 975 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 00:44
  • msg #604

Re: OOC Discussion 5

a *LITTLE* extra BP is especially accurate - I stand to gain like 4 BP for fighting you :P

I'm still going to hold off... I might just do a monster match on my own if those two don't want to come!
Edward Doyle Remington III
Expert 470 BP, 233 posts
Expert
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 04:01
  • msg #605

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Shouldn't you be gaining slightly under 30BP for defeating him?  Plus a hero point and leaderboard standing.  Or am I misunderstanding something about the calculations?


Also, GMs: Bruhli and Tinny Tina's match has been posted, but there has not been a GM post to this effect in the challenges thread.  This is causing confusion over if the match still counts as a 'pending' one for the 'don't post a new challenge while there's another one pending in the thread' rule.
Tinny Tina
Expert 791 BP, 279 posts
Expert
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 04:07
  • msg #606

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You're missing the fact that he's exaggerating for effect.
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 976 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 04:26
  • msg #607

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Tinny Tina:
You're missing the fact that he's exaggerating for effect.


This :)

I'm leaning towards a monster match that could earn me some decent BP. Anyone want to volunteer to be a CR 11 monster?
Edward Doyle Remington III
Expert 470 BP, 234 posts
Expert
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 04:29
  • msg #608

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Not sure if I'm allowed to do that while fighting in a match or not, if so, sounds fun.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 849 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 06:18
  • msg #609

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hiro:
a *LITTLE* extra BP is especially accurate - I stand to gain like 4 BP for fighting you :P

I'm still going to hold off... I might just do a monster match on my own if those two don't want to come!


I'm trying my best, but SOMEONE wants to play hide and seek!
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 668 posts
Adept
TA
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 06:25
  • msg #610

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Hiro (msg # 607):
 Or we can take the ancient dragon on our own ;)
Haran Madar
Adept 608 BP, 215 posts
Adept
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 22:35
  • msg #611

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Krumm (msg # 597):

No worries. Take your time. If you don't get around to it, I can always post on Saturday. That's when my suspension ends.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 669 posts
Adept
TA
Fri 4 Sep 2015
at 12:31
  • msg #612

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I'm confused about something ; considering we cannot post a challenge as long as there is a challenge pending, aren't we going to be waiting for a long time before we can get a match started? Could we set up a waiting list somewhere, so that we don't lose our turn when a match starts?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5712 posts
Game Master
Fri 4 Sep 2015
at 16:14
  • msg #613

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Considering everyone has only 48 hours to respond, the waiting list would not be necessary.

If someone posts a challenge and it's been there 48 hours, you can post your own. If ALL their participants didn't post in time, they will be denied anyway.

Got to have all your ducks in a row.

And Haran, you weren't actually suspended. Just blocked from posting challenges because you disregarded a 48 hour wait. You could still let someone else challenge you (as long as they followed the posting format). It's like the tiniest slap on the wrist that's even possible aside from just straight criticism.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:16, Fri 04 Sept 2015.
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 197 posts
Warrior
Mon 7 Sep 2015
at 02:25
  • msg #614

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well... I'm back. And missed nothing except Latro and Ario arguing cause Latro wanted to run away from sneak attack.  Thanks for not calling 48 hours guys :)
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 238 posts
Warrior
Mon 7 Sep 2015
at 04:05
  • msg #615

Re: OOC Discussion 5

LOL I don't think they could you can't post till that is resolved anyway.


I did a revamp on character Brakt you wanna fight me after you wrap this one up.  I am a Barbarian lvl 7 I'd like to test build out against another melee gladiator.


I remember reading it but can't find it what was the % BP to have GM go over character sheet and give feedback (tell you where you made mistakes)?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5716 posts
Game Master
Mon 7 Sep 2015
at 06:02
  • msg #616

Re: OOC Discussion 5

1% per significant item in question.

If you ask multiple questions at once or use the word "and" or "or" in your statement, you will be charged per item.
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 198 posts
Warrior
Mon 7 Sep 2015
at 06:16
  • msg #617

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm starting to doubt this match is ever going to finish.  Remind me never to fight a rouge again :)

Afterwards, then yeah, I'll be happy to Obliterate fight you :)
Ankou
Expert 450 BP, 219 posts
Expert
Mon 7 Sep 2015
at 12:25
  • msg #618

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 GM, are we waiting on something to start the Ankou V Edward challenge?
 If so please let me know so that I can clarify. Or let others post challenges.
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 239 posts
Warrior
Mon 7 Sep 2015
at 14:49
  • msg #619

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Soooooo is character sheet one item? ;)

(I assume each bolded heading is an item?)
GM Arkrim
GM, 5717 posts
Game Master
Tue 8 Sep 2015
at 02:42
  • msg #620

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Lekol (msg # 619):

It'll be however items I damn well please + 99% for sass-talking.
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 240 posts
Warrior
Fri 11 Sep 2015
at 03:45
  • msg #621

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Nice tactic Brakt
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 202 posts
Warrior
Fri 11 Sep 2015
at 03:50
  • msg #622

Re: OOC Discussion 5

That's what I figured.  Nothing else I could think of doing, so I figured I'd make things harder for him :)
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 241 posts
Warrior
Fri 11 Sep 2015
at 04:08
  • msg #623

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Next you should pick up handfuls of dirt and throw it in random directions :)
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 190 posts
Expert
Sat 12 Sep 2015
at 21:10
  • msg #624

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM Bruhli has a good question I have one on the same subject, does your rounds unaffected because of arena immunity count against the total rounds of the effect?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5728 posts
Game Master
Sun 13 Sep 2015
at 01:00
  • msg #625

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Grunyar Fangblood:
GM Bruhli has a good question I have one on the same subject, does your rounds unaffected because of arena immunity count against the total rounds of the effect?

YES. Arena immunities do not change the effect. They change you, the gladiator being affected by it. The effects themselves still run on their normal timers.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:00, Sun 13 Sept 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5731 posts
Game Master
Mon 14 Sep 2015
at 04:04
  • msg #626

Re: OOC Discussion 5

!!! --- ONE DAY LEFT UNTIL DELETION OF ANYONE NOT ON THE BP SYSTEM --- !!!!

(well, one day and an hour or so)
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 196 posts
Expert
Wed 16 Sep 2015
at 22:43
  • msg #627

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Anyone want to duel, its been very quiet in here whats everyone working on?
Bruhli
Warrior 720 BP, 198 posts
Warrior
Wed 16 Sep 2015
at 23:08
  • msg #628

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'll fight you once my match gets closed out.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:12, Wed 16 Sept 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 197 posts
Expert
Wed 16 Sep 2015
at 23:33
  • msg #629

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ok mine needs to be closed out as well, What kind of variables you want?
This message was last edited by the player at 01:44, Thu 17 Sept 2015.
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 215 posts
Warrior
Thu 17 Sep 2015
at 00:58
  • msg #630

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm just waiting for Latro and Ario to die :/
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 242 posts
Warrior
Thu 17 Sep 2015
at 01:45
  • msg #631

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lol so am I, can't wait to slaughter duel Brakt :)
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 672 posts
Adept
TA
Thu 17 Sep 2015
at 07:47
  • msg #632

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Brakt (msg # 630):

 One of you guys is bound to die of old age before this is over!

 Panian is already long gone eaten by the maggots.
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 218 posts
Warrior
Thu 17 Sep 2015
at 07:52
  • msg #633

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm already dead of old age.  They just don't know it yet. :(
Bruhli
Warrior 720 BP, 199 posts
Warrior
Thu 17 Sep 2015
at 18:19
  • msg #634

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Maybe just large colosseum.
Nyssa Quess
Expert 501 BP, 151 posts
Expert
Thu 17 Sep 2015
at 18:37
  • msg #635

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'll probably be looking for a new match soon.  After the weekend, I think.
Ario
Expert 462 BP, 160 posts
Expert
Thu 17 Sep 2015
at 19:56
  • msg #636

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt, if you're certain that you're already dead, you can use one of your sleeves for the aforementioned blindfold.   It would make things faster ;)
Panian
Expert 478 BP, 166 posts
Expert
Thu 17 Sep 2015
at 20:51
  • msg #637

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Playfully: You guys fight like Elcor mate. It's given me plenty of time to think about what I wanna try out when the match finally ends, though.
Thraxis
Expert 549 BP, 163 posts
Expert
Thu 17 Sep 2015
at 21:25
  • msg #638

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thraxis is also looking for a fight. (Unless Hiro has changed his mind after two and a half weeks of loneliness?)
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 198 posts
Expert
Fri 18 Sep 2015
at 01:52
  • msg #639

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hows this Bruhli?

Grunyar Fangblood challenges Bruhli

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / 2 Hero Points
      Referee: ??
Participant 1: Grunyar Fangblood, Skinwalker, Summoner 9
Participant 2: Bruhli, ??, ??, ??
          Map: Large Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Random
        Walls: Random
         Prep: 3 Prep round
       Extras: None


OOC: something funny ;)

This message was last edited by the player at 15:07, Fri 18 Sept 2015.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 673 posts
Adept
TA
Fri 18 Sep 2015
at 14:25
  • msg #640

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Hiro, you still ready for our big monster hunt with Latro?
Bruhli
Warrior 720 BP, 200 posts
Warrior
Sat 19 Sep 2015
at 05:04
  • msg #641

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'll give you the 2 hero points.
I'm fine with the standard lighting.
I'm fine with the random terrain.
I'm fine with the random walls.
I'm lol'ing at the 3 prep rounds. I'll give you one prep round.


   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / 2 Hero Points
      Referee: ??
Participant 1: Grunyar Fangblood, Skinwalker, Summoner 9
Participant 2: Bruhli, Suli, Barbarian, (Haven't decided on level yet)
          Map: Large Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Random
        Walls: Random
         Prep: 1 Prep round
       Extras: None
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 199 posts
Expert
Sat 19 Sep 2015
at 11:02
  • msg #642

Re: OOC Discussion 5

The hero point thing was just on there from last match can be no limit if you like thats not a sticking point but prep rounds are how about meet you in the middle with 2?

Or can let fate decide and roll prep rounds.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:04, Sat 19 Sept 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5733 posts
Game Master
Sat 19 Sep 2015
at 16:55
  • msg #643

Re: OOC Discussion 5

1d4-1 prep rounds would be a dangerous gamble for both of you....jusssst saying....

*evil smile*
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:55, Sat 19 Sept 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 200 posts
Expert
Sat 19 Sep 2015
at 17:58
  • msg #644

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lol I was thinking 1d2 or 1d3 but I would be down for that.
Bruhli
Warrior 720 BP, 201 posts
Warrior
Sat 19 Sep 2015
at 18:17
  • msg #645

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'd be okay with the d2. Also, let's go for the Random map. I suppose I had a change of mind. Let's add Hidden on the Map to extras for both of us.
Thraxis
Expert 549 BP, 164 posts
Expert
Sat 19 Sep 2015
at 18:23
  • msg #646

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Grunyar, I'm trying to figure out how you are going to pull of being level 9 with 462 bp.

EDIT: also, I'm looking for a fight with anyone who's up for it.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:24, Sat 19 Sept 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 462 BP, 201 posts
Expert 559 BP
Sat 19 Sep 2015
at 19:33
  • msg #647

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thraxis I am 559 don't think I can edit that tag but added it where I could.


Guess I can go with those terms but I would rather give up the prep round for no hidden on map.
Bruhli
Warrior 720 BP, 202 posts
Warrior
Sat 19 Sep 2015
at 20:55
  • msg #648

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Okay, I am fine with either of these options, you can choose. I changed the Large Colosseum to small in option 1. Whenever we are able to post, just post it in the challenge thread. I should have my updates to my character sheet tonight.

quote:
Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / 2 Hero Points
      Referee: ??
Participant 1: Grunyar Fangblood, Skinwalker, Summoner 9
Participant 2: Bruhli, Suli, Barbarian 9
          Map: Small Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Random
        Walls: Random
         Prep: 1 Prep round
       Extras: None

OCC: Talk


OR

quote:
Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / 2 Hero Points
      Referee: ??
Participant 1: Grunyar Fangblood, Skinwalker, Summoner 9
Participant 2: Bruhli, Suli, Barbarian 9
          Map: Small Random
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Random
        Walls: Random
         Prep: d2 Prep round
       Extras: Hidden on the Map

OCC: Talk

This message was last edited by the player at 20:57, Sat 19 Sept 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5734 posts
Game Master
Sat 19 Sep 2015
at 21:04
  • msg #649

Re: OOC Discussion 5

The herd has been purged! The weak have been culled from the tribe and only the strong remain....
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:04, Sat 19 Sept 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 559 BP, 203 posts
Expert 559 BP
Sun 20 Sep 2015
at 11:54
  • msg #650

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sad to see them go, now there are only 8 undrafted and active gladiators.

Bruhli challenge is up
Bruhli
Warrior 720 BP, 203 posts
Warrior
Sun 20 Sep 2015
at 18:35
  • msg #651

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Grunyar, I received the bp from the points, but my match hasn't been closed. Is it okay to accept?
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 559 BP, 204 posts
Expert 559 BP
Sun 20 Sep 2015
at 18:46
  • msg #652

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah see lekol's posts on page 24 GM does not have to put a post on who wins just your match thread closed and BP assessed.
Bruhli
Warrior 720 BP, 204 posts
Warrior
Sun 20 Sep 2015
at 18:49
  • msg #653

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Excellent!
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 243 posts
Warrior
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 00:38
  • msg #654

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lol heck of a discussion on spitting hairs going on in the longest battle ever thought Grunyar and Nyssa's round one took forever but wow I hope extra BP is awarded to Panian for being sooo patient.


Its the duel that never ends
It goes on and on my friends
Four gladiators started swinging not knowing what it was
And they'll continue swinging till there is only one but
Its the duel that never ends ...
This message was last edited by the player at 00:39, Mon 21 Sept 2015.
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 220 posts
Warrior
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 00:48
  • msg #655

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm trying to finish this as quick as I can.  It's just not working very well :(
GM Arkrim
GM, 5742 posts
Game Master
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 04:12
  • msg #656

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey guys, don't be jackasses and delay your initiative rolls to see what the other guy rolled.

We're not allowing anyone to hero point initiative rolls anymore or even use hero points during prep rounds at all. They can only be used AFTER battle has started.

From now on, if the first post you put in your match is anything other than an initiative roll, it will be an instant 1st penalty. No ifs, ands or buts.

You're gladiators. ROLL FOR INITIATIVE.



Also, for those of you who want to mix Unchained with Archetypes or utilize material we've banned or nerfed in the past, we have finally gotten the BP system fully integrated, so we're ready to hear your presentations. Note, that we charge you 1% of your BP for any ideas we find stupid or ridiculous. Multiple requests or multiple items in the same request stack. Yes it's subjective. Get over it. You should be intelligent enough to figure out what's acceptable here and what's not. Good luck.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:23, Mon 21 Sept 2015.
Ankou
Expert 546 BP, 240 posts
Expert
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 10:35
  • msg #657

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Who's up for a fight?
 Something straightforward and simple, without freaking island!
Thraxis
Expert 549 BP, 165 posts
Expert
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 14:46
  • msg #658

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Arkrim, would you like us to continue poking you with PM's for banned or nerfed revisions, or would you like to put up a sticky thread for people to request in?  (That way you won't have to answer the same question - good or bad - more than once, and you'd also not have to keep updating the list of ban revisions, it'd all be there in one thread for people.)


Ankou, how's:

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / 2 Hero Points
      Referee: ??
Participant 1: Thraxis, Half-Orc, Summoner 8
Participant 2: Ankou, Goblin, Commoner 1 (or, you know, whatever your race and level are)
          Map: Small Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Standard Stone
         Prep: 1d3 Prep rounds
       Extras: None
Ankou
Expert 546 BP, 241 posts
Expert
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 15:04
  • msg #659

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Three prep rounds would let you fill every square in the arena with a nasty bugger under your command, Thraxis!

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / 2 Hero Points
      Referee: Grunyar/Edward/Krumm (if they're ok with it)
Participant 1: Thraxis, Half-Orc, Summoner 8
Participant 2: Ankou, Black Dragon, Wizard 21
          Map: Small Colosseum
     Lighting: Low-Light (for the mood)
      Terrain: Stone tiles
        Walls: of Fire (CL10)
         Prep: 0-1 Prep round
       Extras: no hero point interruption
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 559 BP, 210 posts
Expert 559 BP
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 15:09
  • msg #660

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You guys should do the 1d4-1 Arkrim suggested
Edward Doyle Remington III
Expert 498 BP, 258 posts
Expert
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 15:15
  • msg #661

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm fine with being ref.
Thraxis
Expert 549 BP, 166 posts
Expert
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 16:00
  • msg #662

Re: OOC Discussion 5

That's a fair point.  Here's a counter-offer:

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / 2 Hero Points
      Referee: Edward
Participant 1: Thraxis, Half-Orc, Summoner 8
Participant 2: Ankou, put your actual race/class/level here, silly commoner with dreams of grandeur
          Map: Small Colosseum
     Lighting: Low-Light (for the mood)
      Terrain: Random
        Walls: Paper - you're the one who wanted a simple map - you can light the paper on fire during the prep rounds if you want flaming walls for style points if you want, though
         Prep: 1d3 Prep rounds
       Extras: no summoning during any prep round but the last
Ankou
Expert 546 BP, 243 posts
Expert
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 16:29
  • msg #663

Re: OOC Discussion 5

All right, how about this:

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / 2 Hero Points
      Referee: Edward
Participant 1: Thraxis, Half-Orc, Summoner 8
Participant 2: Ankou, Dwarf, Inquisitor 7
          Map: Small Colosseum
     Lighting: Low-Light (for the mood)
      Terrain: Random
        Walls: Paper
         Prep: 1d3 Prep rounds
       Extras: no summoning during any prep round but the last; no hero point interruption.

 I have a strong issue with the hero point interruption abuse, I seriously plan on stating this extra in every challenge I issue or accept from now on.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 559 BP, 212 posts
Expert 559 BP
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 16:39
  • msg #664

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Whats considered interruption? The obvious counter spell/attack while casting, what about action like latro doing a retro action that moved him to cover making Ario's attack to him  miss?
Thraxis
Expert 549 BP, 168 posts
Expert
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 16:59
  • msg #665

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I understand him to mean no using hero points to interrupt another person's action.

EDIT: I'd better wait for him to clarify though so we're on the same page for the challenge.

EDIT2: Ankou, when you read this, go ahead and post the challenge being clear about whether you mean no interrupting another person's action or their turn at all.  I'm fine either way, I just want it to be clear.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:07, Mon 21 Sept 2015.
Ankou
Expert 546 BP, 245 posts
Expert
Tue 22 Sep 2015
at 07:48
  • msg #666

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 What I mean was, I find it incredibly unfair to wait for a person to describe their whole turn, roll dice, reveal their position and part of their strategy, and simply say "by the way, now that I know what you're up to, I spend a hero point to move out of reach/hide in a hole/cast a shield spell..."

 I'm absolutely fine with normal readied action, or immediate actions if they are mentioned as readied, and hero points spent to take a second standard action before the other gladiator takes their turn though.
Panian
Expert 478 BP, 167 posts
Expert
Tue 22 Sep 2015
at 08:20
  • msg #667

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm starting to become very heavily prejudiced against the use of hero points at all... That's just me, though.
Ankou
Expert 546 BP, 247 posts
Expert
Tue 22 Sep 2015
at 08:43
  • msg #668

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 GM, I don't think I was awarded my BP after my latest fight.
 No big deal, I was not planning on rebuilding before my next fight, but when you do get a chance... thanks.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5744 posts
Game Master
Tue 22 Sep 2015
at 13:34
  • msg #669

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Oh well if it's no big deal we'll just leave it as it is. :P
Ankou
Expert 546 BP, 248 posts
Expert
Tue 22 Sep 2015
at 13:43
  • msg #670

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Well, it's a little deal still ;)
GM Arkrim
GM, 5745 posts
Game Master
Tue 22 Sep 2015
at 14:24
  • msg #671

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Nope. Too late. :P
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 882 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Wed 23 Sep 2015
at 19:54
  • msg #672

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Good news Hiro and Joseph, I think my FFA is entering it's final rounds. So hopefully I'll be done soon and can rebuild Latro for the monster hunt.
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 977 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Thu 24 Sep 2015
at 02:47
  • msg #673

Re: OOC Discussion 5

*snort*
Huh, what?

Oh, I dozed off there...
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 678 posts
Adept
TA
Thu 24 Sep 2015
at 08:04
  • msg #674

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 *pats Hiro on the shoulder*
   Looks like they're done!
   Oh wait, Latro needs to change still...
  *yawn*
   I'm going back to sleep.
Tinny Tina
Expert 869 BP, 288 posts
Expert
Sat 26 Sep 2015
at 04:27
  • msg #675

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If it's any consolation Arkrim, I don't think you're a grump. It's hard work trying to herd cats, especially two dozen dice-rolling ones.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5761 posts
Game Master
Sat 26 Sep 2015
at 04:31
  • msg #676

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey guys, you've been stretching me thin lately. Sorry if I've been a bit grumpy or rude to any of you.

I'm TRYING to be nice, but my amount of rudeness is directly proportional to the number of players I'm juggling at once and ALL of you actives have called me in for disputes in the past week. Between these matches I'm juggling 7-8 of you. That's 7-8 times more rude than normal. Plus I have my IRL problems that aren't your business, but they take their toll before I even get here.

So for all YOUR sakes, show some common courtesy and compensate your manners and attention span for the person you're stressing out.

Don't be rude to the person preparing your food, even if they have a bad attitude...unless you want to get really really sick.

Same logic applies when a GM is reading 7 different power-gamed character sheets to settle 4 different disputes (two in the same damn match). There are 20+ players here to juggle. I'm allowed to be many times ruder than you are. So if you're even SLIGHTLY agitated or uppity, be prepared to get GM slapped.

I'm not trying to bully you guys. I'm just telling you that's how human psychology works. I'm just as susceptible to it as the rest of you. Keep that in mind.

That being said, I'm still sorry when I do GM slap somebody.

That is all.




Thanks Tinny. I tried making leashes but the damn cats keep chewing on them...
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:32, Sat 26 Sept 2015.
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 227 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Sat 26 Sep 2015
at 04:33
  • msg #677

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm sorry that our free for all is taking so long.  I think I'm going to stick to basic 1v1 from now :(

I appreciate what you do making this accessible to everyone though :)
GM Arkrim
GM, 5762 posts
Game Master
Sat 26 Sep 2015
at 04:39
  • msg #678

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I want the arena to be fair, efficient, fun and accessible for everyone.

However, given the workload, I've only been able to pick two of those things at a time.

Guess which two I've been focusing on... >_<

Sorry guys. It's the best I can manage with what I've got. We really need a 3rd GM but it's hard to find people as insane as me willing to do this to themselves so people can duke it out in the arena.

I'm seriously not trying to be a prick. I just have ZERO time for backtalk or nonsense here lately.
Maelstrom
Warrior 759 BP, 267 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Sat 26 Sep 2015
at 16:00
  • msg #679

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hahaha, I'm envisioning Panian lying on the ground and every once in a while lifting his head up and to say "Any time now guys."
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 685 posts
Adept
TA
Mon 28 Sep 2015
at 15:17
  • msg #680

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I wish I was a referee in the Latro et. al. match.
Ario
Expert 462 BP, 182 posts
Expert
Mon 28 Sep 2015
at 15:32
  • msg #681

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I wish I was a 1000 bp sorcerer in the Latro et al match.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5766 posts
Game Master
Mon 28 Sep 2015
at 23:04
  • msg #682

Re: OOC Discussion 5

The sooner you finish your match the more BP you'll have. :P
Panian
Expert 478 BP, 169 posts
Expert
Tue 29 Sep 2015
at 00:03
  • msg #683

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm just wondering why the other guys won't just let themselves get melted already
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 231 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Tue 29 Sep 2015
at 02:44
  • msg #684

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Latro won't melt.  Stupid Paladin :(
This message was last edited by the player at 04:51, Tue 29 Sept 2015.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 691 posts
Adept
TA
Fri 2 Oct 2015
at 08:30
  • msg #685

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Next FFA, I'm volunteering as referee on the condition that from the bench I can start blasting anyone who stalls ;)
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 240 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Fri 2 Oct 2015
at 08:38
  • msg #686

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I see it now Josep

In the Arena --

Turn 3, Someone makes a perception check.  ***Scorching Ray***

But it was a move perception check, not stalling! **More rays***

:P
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 909 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Fri 2 Oct 2015
at 21:42
  • msg #687

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt:
Stupid Paladin :(

Anti-Paladin. Theres a big difference. ;P
Brakt
Warrior 474 BP, 242 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Sat 3 Oct 2015
at 00:33
  • msg #688

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Oh, I'm sorry. You're a holy warrior fighting for the love and glory of your deity of choice. I don't care how evil you are, you're a paladin :P
Tinny Tina
Expert 869 BP, 289 posts
Expert
Sat 3 Oct 2015
at 01:22
  • msg #689

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 687):

So what, if I paint my armour black and start throwing ice bombs instead of fire bombs, does that make me an anti-alchemist? :P
This message was last edited by the player at 01:45, Sat 03 Oct 2015.
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 244 posts
Warrior
Sat 3 Oct 2015
at 03:05
  • msg #690

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey Brakt now that your FFA is over. Let me know when you are ready and what kind of terms.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,046 BP, 911 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sat 3 Oct 2015
at 03:29
  • msg #691

Re: OOC Discussion 5

No tina, theres a feat for that. you're still an alchemist.

I fight not for love and glory, but for the spread of pain and suffering. And i'm an UN-holy warrior. I spit on good and put my foot on the laws of men. Paladins fight for justice and righteousness. I do not.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5769 posts
Game Master
Sat 3 Oct 2015
at 03:52
  • msg #692

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt:
I see it now Josep

In the Arena --

Turn 3, Someone makes a perception check.  ***Scorching Ray***

But it was a move perception check, not stalling! **More rays***

:P

And rather than arresting Josep, the arena judicators offer him a job MIB style. :P
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 173 posts
Expert
Sat 3 Oct 2015
at 05:10
  • msg #693

Re: OOC Discussion 5

FREEEEEDDOOOOOOOOMMMMM! Now that I'm out of that grueling match, I get to put some of the new Occult classes through the ringer! Anyone have a suggestion as to what they'd like to see or fight first?
Brakt
Warrior 599 BP, 243 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Sat 3 Oct 2015
at 07:57
  • msg #694

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well, I'll need a day to spend my new BP.

On a side note, I went into that battle with about 350bp. Luck favors the patient I guess.

As for terms, small plain map work for you?
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 693 posts
Adept
TA
Sat 3 Oct 2015
at 08:28
  • msg #695

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Latro ! You ready to kick some dragon butt ?
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,059 BP, 912 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sat 3 Oct 2015
at 08:29
  • msg #696

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Oh, so we are going with a dragon then? Well then yes, just as soon as i spend my BP and what not. (and as soon as the GM opens my character sheet up to do it. :P)
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 694 posts
Adept
TA
Sat 3 Oct 2015
at 08:34
  • msg #697

Re: OOC Discussion 5

8 hero points spent in a match ! That's a new record I reckon.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,059 BP, 913 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 17:55
  • msg #698

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Hiro and Josep

I'm working really hard to revise my character so we can hurry up and kill ourselves a dragon/random monster/whatever. I think you'll be surprised at the new Latro you see though. ;)
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 202 posts
Expert
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 18:17
  • msg #699

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Real Paladin for great justice!
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,059 BP, 914 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 18:26
  • msg #700

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Not a chance in the nine hells. ;P
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 203 posts
Expert
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 18:41
  • msg #701

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You're just saying that now so that he'll be surprised later :-P

So, is everyone else's RTJ PM gone, or is it just mine?  I want to send in a PM about requesting a ban/nerf repeal, but I don't want to take a penalty for sending a new PM if it's an issue between my account and RPOL rather than a game-wide thing.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 559 BP, 253 posts
Expert 559 BP
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 18:43
  • msg #702

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Mine is gone to
Tinny Tina
Expert 869 BP, 290 posts
Expert
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 18:46
  • msg #703

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Mine's still there.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,059 BP, 915 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 18:48
  • msg #704

Re: OOC Discussion 5

SHHHH!!! Don't spoilt he secret Ario!!!

And on the subject of the RTJ threads, mine is still there as well.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5771 posts
Game Master
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 20:00
  • msg #705

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If one of your characters was deleted because they didn't get the BP update, then it was likely your RTJ thread was taken with them. Other than that, we have not deleted or purged any threads.

I have sent you a new PM.
Edward Doyle Remington III
Expert 498 BP, 267 posts
Expert
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 20:19
  • msg #706

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Mine appears to be gone as well, though I may be missing something.  None of my characters were purged.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 559 BP, 254 posts
Expert 559 BP
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 20:24
  • msg #707

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I am in same boat as edward none of my other personalities where purged and mine is gone must be a RPOL thing
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 204 posts
Expert
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 20:43
  • msg #708

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Huh.  I'm still not seeing it.
My only other character (the original)  was not purged either, though.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,059 BP, 916 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 21:14
  • msg #709

Re: OOC Discussion 5

More than likely an Rpol thing then. There was a time when some character profile pictures were coming up as red boxes recently.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:14, Sun 04 Oct 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5772 posts
Game Master
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 23:17
  • msg #710

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I don't know what to tell you guys. We only purged certain characters and none of you guys were it. Your PMs should not have been affected (unless an Admin doesn't like you or someone was fiddling with the RPOL code they shouldn't have).

I can't just send you or have you send me a new PM since it's format would fall under a new category and wouldn't appear in the same section of PMs we have organized for player responses.

However, there is a workaround for getting you a new PM that still looks like it's an original.

It involves me taking your characters away, requiring you to send a new RTJ and then just giving them back to you once you've submitted a new RTJ.

If you guys need to communicate with the GMs via PM, that's what we're going to have to do.

Who's first?
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:19, Sun 04 Oct 2015.
Brakt
Warrior 599 BP, 244 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 23:57
  • msg #711

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sorry, that may of been slightly my fault.

Not really, but.
I was trying to send a PM during the last match, and was getting a database error of some sort, so reported it to the RPOL administration. I'm guessing in fixing it, they lost some of the pm threads maybe?

jase:
Please try now, should be all sorted out for you.  A few PMs had dropped off the list but I (believe I) managed to recover them all.

Apologies for the inconvenience.


On the good side, we can actually send pms again :)
This message was last edited by the player at 00:16, Mon 05 Oct 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 559 BP, 255 posts
Expert 559 BP
Sun 4 Oct 2015
at 23:58
  • msg #712

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'd like to wait till match is over if it is ok
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 205 posts
Expert
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 00:26
  • msg #713

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm willing to be the guinea pig.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 559 BP, 256 posts
Expert 559 BP
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 00:33
  • msg #714

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I tried to send a pm and got that error to just thought it was something on my end.  Sent one in another game day or so later didn't think anything about it.
Brakt
Warrior 599 BP, 245 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 02:08
  • msg #715

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lekol - How does this sound?
quote:

   Match Type: {1v1}
BP/Hero Limit: {No Limit} BP / {0/???} Hero Points
      Referee: {None}
Participant 1: {Brakt, Human, Two-Handed Fighter 7}
Participant 2: {Lekol, Gnome, Commoner 1}
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Small Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard Sunlight
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Unbreakable
         Prep: Real Warriors don't need to prepare!
       Extras: No flying or climbing.

Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 245 posts
Warrior
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 02:22
  • msg #716

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hows this?

   Match Type: {1v1}
BP/Hero Limit: {No Limit} BP / {no limit or zero is fine by me} Hero Points
      Referee: {None}
Participant 1: {Brakt, Human, Two-Handed Fighter 7}
Participant 2: {Lekol, Android, Barbarian 7}
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Small Random
     Lighting: Standard Sunlight
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Unbreakable
         Prep: I like 1 prep round lets get lay of land before I get screwered by your spear ;)
       Extras: No flying or climbing.


Who would like to be ref?  We really shouldn't need one but just in case.
Brakt
Warrior 599 BP, 246 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 02:31
  • msg #717

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I don't think we'll need a ref at all, I'm not planning on hiding at any rate.

If it's a random map, then let's have wooden walls? So I can break my way to you just in-case I need to :P

If you're happy with that, go ahead and post the challenge?
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 246 posts
Warrior
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 02:37
  • msg #718

Re: OOC Discussion 5

What would you like on hero points?

   Match Type: {1v1}
BP/Hero Limit: {No Limit} BP / {no limit or zero is fine by me} Hero Points
      Referee: {None}
Participant 1: {Brakt, Human, Two-Handed Fighter 7}
Participant 2: {Lekol, Android, Barbarian 7}
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Small Random
     Lighting: Standard Sunlight
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: wood
         Prep: I like 1 prep round lets get lay of land before I get screwered by your spear ;)
       Extras: No flying or climbing.

Brakt
Warrior 599 BP, 248 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 02:48
  • msg #719

Re: OOC Discussion 5

No limit for you, I won't use any :D

Challenge is up :)
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 248 posts
Warrior
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 02:50
  • msg #720

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I figured with all the issues last match you would be anti hero point.
Brakt
Warrior 599 BP, 249 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 02:54
  • msg #721

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I trust you.

I'm not so sure on the wisdom of an Android Barbarian however :P
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 249 posts
Warrior
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 02:59
  • msg #722

Re: OOC Discussion 5

There is a method to my madness you will see
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 206 posts
Expert
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 03:03
  • msg #723

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Oh man, a barbarian that's immune to his own rage bonuses.  Score!
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 250 posts
Warrior
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 03:09
  • msg #724

Re: OOC Discussion 5

LOL
GM Arkrim
GM, 5773 posts
Game Master
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 06:04
  • msg #725

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hilarious. Androids strike me as poorly designed. I'm surprised nobody has made an undead character using a charisma-based class. That strikes me as pretty broken.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:05, Mon 05 Oct 2015.
Brakt
Warrior 599 BP, 250 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 06:09
  • msg #726

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Shh! Don't tell Latro that he can!

Last I heard, he was trying to save up and craft a Lich's Phylactory.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5774 posts
Game Master
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 06:21
  • msg #727

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hmm, technically no one can. We have a rule against custom races and you can't apply monster templates to PCs without some GM intervention to allow it...

I suppose I could allow some customization within reason. I'll think about it.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,059 BP, 917 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 15:10
  • msg #728

Re: OOC Discussion 5

i mean, if i'm willing to pay the copious amounts of BP to make a phylactery, that's basically like paying the bp to upgrade my race, isn't it? :P seriously though, a lich's phylactery costs us 1,200. (That's 120,000 gp gang.) if that's not a reasonable price to change your typing, i don't know what is.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:18, Mon 05 Oct 2015.
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 253 posts
Warrior
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 15:45
  • msg #729

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Wow thats like 2056BP minimum for a naked lich, I could agree thats a pretty hefty price to pay.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5777 posts
Game Master
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 17:25
  • msg #730

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah, definitely a high price. Plus, since this is an arena game, you'd have to have it on you too and I'm sure lot's of people would just snatch it and smash it if they could.

But I would never allow only one template. If one template is allowed, I'd need a rule system for allowing all or most of the other templates.

I wonder if there's a way to use that as a base for calculating the cost of other templates. Hmmmmm... *ponders*
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:26, Mon 05 Oct 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5780 posts
Game Master
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 21:39
  • msg #731

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey guys, I may or may not remember to close your character sheet for a match. If I forget, just make sure that you DO NOT change your character sheet any time during the match.

If a GM sees that you altered your character sheet any time between the challenge being made and the GM declaring the match over, you will be automatically disqualified. No excuses, no trial, no jury, no rebuttal, no 2nd or 3rd strike, no "oops, sorry, it was just a typo, won't do it again". INSTANT disqualification.

If you're the type of player to have an itchy trigger finger when it comes to typos, and just CAN'T resist the urge to change your character sheet, there is an alternative. You may also post your ENTIRE character sheet in a PM to the GM during your initiative roll post when you start a match and THAT will be your temporary character sheet. However, in order for that to work, you must also NOT edit that post EVER, otherwise it defeats the purpose.

Just thought I'd let you guys know.
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 174 posts
Expert
Tue 6 Oct 2015
at 01:50
  • msg #732

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Would it be considered Absolutely Terrible if we got into a CR 10 Monster Mash fight and use 30 kobolds rather than a couple other larger CR creatures?
Thraxis
Expert 638 BP, 198 posts
Expert
Tue 6 Oct 2015
at 02:08
  • msg #733

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Anyone up for getting into a Monster Match Battle Royal with me?  I'd even be willing to face down Panian's 30 kobolds if that's what it came to.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5784 posts
Game Master
Tue 6 Oct 2015
at 02:33
  • msg #734

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Max is 4, but if you'd been intelligent enough to read the Monster Match rules before asking, you'd have already known that. :/
Thraxis
Expert 638 BP, 199 posts
Expert
Tue 6 Oct 2015
at 03:45
  • msg #735

Re: OOC Discussion 5

OOOOOOOh.  I read "Monster Match Battle Royal" in the announcement thread and went to the "Monstrous Battle Royal (3-4 FFA PvPvE)" rules, rather than the "Monster Mash (PvP)" rules (which clearly mentions the 1-4 limit).

So, if I'm reading this correctly now, the intention is 3-4 player games following the Monster Mash rules?

Anyone up for one?  My lone CR 4 Outsider is spoiling for a fight.
Edward Doyle Remington III
Expert 498 BP, 269 posts
Expert
Tue 6 Oct 2015
at 03:53
  • msg #736

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Maybe?  I want to, but am sick at the moment, so let me see how I'm feeling tomorrow.
Madam Opal
Warrior 359 BP, 507 posts
Adept
Shadow's Caress
Tue 6 Oct 2015
at 05:47
  • msg #737

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So would you guys ever consider raising the limit of books from ten for the truly thirsty for knowledge or is 10 books the highest you'll ever consider allowing for any one character?
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 696 posts
Adept
TA
Tue 6 Oct 2015
at 07:38
  • msg #738

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I was doing 16 at some point, mainly because of a number of spells in my spellbook (which I never used, btw)
 Anyway the BP cost was just not worth the gain.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5785 posts
Game Master
Tue 6 Oct 2015
at 13:44
  • msg #739

Re: OOC Discussion 5

As Josep said, at some point the cost ceases to be worth the gain (somewhere around 6-7 books is where it starts).

But technically, we have no limit. We just stopped at 10 because we figured "nobody's ACTUALLY insane enough to go beyond this point". Boy, did some of you surprise us. But if you really want to go beyond that, there'd just be exponentially more BP to pay.

How many books were you looking at?
Madam Opal
Warrior 359 BP, 508 posts
Adept
Shadow's Caress
Tue 6 Oct 2015
at 21:15
  • msg #740

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Anywhere between 11-15 maybe. 15 would without question be my own personal hard limit as i'm certain at that point i'm just grabbing books for one random thing to tinker with. But really, I'm just curious what the BP costs for books upwards of 10 is now that i know we can in fact bypass the perceived 10 book limit and then i'll make the call for myself is having books in that amount is really and truly worth it or not.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:16, Tue 06 Oct 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5786 posts
Game Master
Wed 7 Oct 2015
at 05:21
  • msg #741

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I cranked it up to 15. It's pricey though.
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 208 posts
Expert
Wed 7 Oct 2015
at 05:39
  • msg #742

Re: OOC Discussion 5

That's right.  In this game the dial goes to 15.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5788 posts
Game Master
Wed 7 Oct 2015
at 06:04
  • msg #743

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah, and I'm awarding a boat load of BP to anyone who does a Pokemon battl--erhm, I mean a Monster Match.

I'm surprised none have appeared in the challenge thread yet.

Seriously, 300 BP to the winner guys.
Brakt
Warrior 599 BP, 254 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Wed 7 Oct 2015
at 06:41
  • msg #744

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm going to to, as soon as Lekol dies. :D
Lekol
Warrior 428 BP, 256 posts
Warrior
Wed 7 Oct 2015
at 07:06
  • msg #745

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lol rematch of our previous match with the no golem no dragon extra ;). Have to add someone to make it a battle royale

I was thinking of a 3/4 FFA with only creatures available are Vampire, ethereal being, android (Franky), and werewolf
Either roll a 1d4 to determine who gets what race or everyone rolls initiative and pick when you post prep round
Brakt
Warrior 599 BP, 256 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Wed 7 Oct 2015
at 07:15
  • msg #746

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Nah, just a straight out CR3 fight I think, make it quick and painlessish.

In the mean time, hurry up and die :)
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 209 posts
Expert
Wed 7 Oct 2015
at 12:52
  • msg #747

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'd be up a match with anyone.

   Match Type: Monster Match (Batle Royale)
BP/Hero Limit: CR 3-5 / No hero points
      Referee: Any Volunteers?
Participant 1: Ario
Participant 2:
Participant 3:
Participant 4:
          Map: Small Colloseum
     Lighting: Standard Lighting (From Torches - you're welcome, undeads)
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: None
       Extras: No Climbing, No Flying, No Invisibility, No Ethereal/Incorporeal (You may choose to play a monster with any of these abilities, but they are magically suppressed by the arena judges and cannot be used.)
Nyssa Quess
Expert 501 BP, 153 posts
Expert
Wed 7 Oct 2015
at 15:30
  • msg #748

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Nyssa will join in on that.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5789 posts
Game Master
Thu 8 Oct 2015
at 03:00
  • msg #749

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I realize a lot of us probably saw a movie/manga a long time ago called Battle Royale, but I just want to clarify: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_royal

The original roman terminology does not have an "e" at the end.
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 176 posts
Expert
Thu 8 Oct 2015
at 05:37
  • msg #751

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Ario: How about this? With the BP at stake, let's take it out of the Little Leagues.

Match Type: Monster Match (Batle Royale)
BP/Hero Limit: CR 5 - 7 / No hero points
      Referee: Any Volunteers?
Participant 1: Ario
Participant 2: Panian
Participant 3:
Participant 4:
          Map: Small Colloseum
     Lighting: Standard Lighting (From Torches - you're welcome, undeads)
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: One (1) round
       Extras: None
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 210 posts
Expert
Thu 8 Oct 2015
at 12:54
  • msg #752

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Counter-offered!

Match Type: Monster Match (Batle Royal)
BP/Hero Limit: CR 1d4+3 (I'll roll if you and nyssa agree to terms)/ No hero points
      Referee: Any Volunteers?
Participant 1: Ario
Participant 2: Panian
Participant 3: Nyssa
Participant 4:
          Map: Small Colloseum
     Lighting: Standard Lighting (From Torches - you're welcome, undeads)
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: none
       Extras: No ethereal/incorporeal, No using ranged attacks (even indirect or through summoning) while flying, Hidden on the map

On extras: the first two invalidate about half the list each for having any chance of winning, and the last saves us finding a referee and shortens the match
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 211 posts
Expert
Thu 8 Oct 2015
at 16:55
  • msg #753

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Nyssa, if you want to do a duel (as they've now been approved) with my original post's rules, I'm up for it.  Otherwise we can wait for negotiating w/ Panian - up to you.
Nyssa Quess
Expert 501 BP, 154 posts
Expert
Thu 8 Oct 2015
at 17:42
  • msg #754

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Would be interested in duel as per original terms, but if Panian wants in on this fight, will be happy with that, too.
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 212 posts
Expert
Thu 8 Oct 2015
at 17:54
  • msg #755

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well, it looks like we have a little while to hammer things out, as the TA has the challenge thread occupied for the moment.
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 177 posts
Expert
Fri 9 Oct 2015
at 03:19
  • msg #756

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Arkrim, you're a monster. All I have in mind now is a Graveyard Mode hydra fight. This is my shaking my fist at you for making such an idea possible.
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 435 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Fri 9 Oct 2015
at 03:51
  • msg #757

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So who wants to do a monster mash match with me? (so much alliteration!!!0
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 213 posts
Expert
Fri 9 Oct 2015
at 03:57
  • msg #758

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If you want to jump in on the rules I originally posted, I can get the challenge up for you me and Nyssa right now, Ugrim.  Panian, you'd still be welcome to join under the original rules so you can get a match in too.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5794 posts
Game Master
Fri 9 Oct 2015
at 04:18
  • msg #759

Re: OOC Discussion 5

The beauty of these monster mashes is that your character's BP doesn't matter. You're all using the same CR-worth of monsters.

It's an excellent chance for you lower BPs to catch up...or for you higher BPs to show off.

Let's see you guys' best monsters!

Also, don't be shy about going to CRs greater than 4. You guys can crank it up to 11 if you like. :P
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 436 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Fri 9 Oct 2015
at 04:22
  • msg #760

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I think we want the monster mashes to end before the 5th of November. :P

And i'll take any rules you want. Thats a free hero point at least in the end and some bp to boot. The more of these i can cram into October, the better. Hero points are hero points and as Latro and the others demonstrated, they tend to get burned through rather quickly. :P
This message was last edited by the player at 04:25, Fri 09 Oct 2015.
Nyssa Quess
Expert 501 BP, 155 posts
Expert
Fri 9 Oct 2015
at 04:59
  • msg #761

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I mean, high CR monsters can kill each other quick too, if they're not high CR because of insane amounts of immunities and defensive features or something.
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 437 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Fri 9 Oct 2015
at 05:02
  • msg #762

Re: OOC Discussion 5

ok guys, limit CR 1/2. type limited to animal and make them fight to the death pokémon style!
This message was last edited by the player at 05:03, Fri 09 Oct 2015.
Nyssa Quess
Expert 501 BP, 156 posts
Expert
Fri 9 Oct 2015
at 05:10
  • msg #763

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hah!

That might actually have a greater danger of taking longer due to low attack bonuses compared to ACs, not sure. . . .
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 178 posts
Expert
Fri 9 Oct 2015
at 12:16
  • msg #764

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Badger fights! Ario, I think I'll sit that challenge out. You, Nyssa, and Ugrim can have the minimum needed for a battle royale. With that being said, anyone want to have a baby league monster mash to get it done quickly? Something like CR2-3.
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 215 posts
Expert
Sun 11 Oct 2015
at 06:07
  • msg #765

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ugrim, Nyssa - our challenge is up.  I thought I had posted it a few days ago, but apparently not.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5795 posts
Game Master
Sun 11 Oct 2015
at 15:07
  • msg #766

Re: OOC Discussion 5

For future reference guys, you need to have ALL of the monsters' types, CRs and incorporeality/ethereality/immunities listed in the initial challenge. You cannot wait for people to fill it in as they go. I know that's what the first match did but that was incorrect and now they will pay for their mistakes at the hands of their own. *glares at the incompetent wizard guild*

Ario, please edit your challenge post before anyone responds to it.

And nobody respond to it until it's fixed.

These instructions must be followed under pain of BP loss.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:19, Sun 11 Oct 2015.
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 216 posts
Expert
Sun 11 Oct 2015
at 15:39
  • msg #767

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Alrighty, sorry.   Nyssa and Ugrim - can I get your Numbers, Cr's and monster types?  (I know that you aren't incorporeal/invis as it's against our special rules.)

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to fix it.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:40, Sun 11 Oct 2015.
Nyssa Quess
Expert 501 BP, 157 posts
Expert
Sun 11 Oct 2015
at 16:42
  • msg #768

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm going to go with 1 CR 3 Outsider, and 1 CR 3 Construct.
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 438 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sun 11 Oct 2015
at 20:10
  • msg #769

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ugrim will go with 1 CR 5 Magical Beast

Let us know in the OOC when you edit the challenge post.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:40, Sun 11 Oct 2015.
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 217 posts
Expert
Sun 11 Oct 2015
at 21:50
  • msg #770

Re: OOC Discussion 5

It is not modified.  The challenge rules have been changed so I now need to know all of each monster's immunities as well.

Mine is immune to crits, poison, stunning, bleed, sleep, paralysis, precision damage and flanking.
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 439 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sun 11 Oct 2015
at 22:09
  • msg #771

Re: OOC Discussion 5

My creatures is immune to drowning in water.... at thats it. :P
This message was last edited by the player at 22:31, Sun 11 Oct 2015.
Nyssa Quess
Expert 501 BP, 158 posts
Expert
Mon 12 Oct 2015
at 00:16
  • msg #772

Re: OOC Discussion 5

My outsider is immune to both poison and electricity.

My construct is immune to cold, magic, and has standard construct immunities.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5798 posts
Game Master
Mon 12 Oct 2015
at 01:07
  • msg #773

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well, you probably don't have to list immunities that already come as part of the creature type's package...as that's redundant.

But hey, better safe than sorry.

I'll update that.
Ario
Expert 548 BP, 218 posts
Expert
Mon 12 Oct 2015
at 01:09
  • msg #774

Re: OOC Discussion 5

The challenge is modified and ready for your guys' acceptance.
Maelstrom
Warrior 759 BP, 268 posts
Mon 12 Oct 2015
at 15:36
  • [deleted]
  • msg #775

Re: OOC Discussion 5

This message was deleted by the player at 21:40, Mon 12 Oct 2015.
Brakt
Warrior 599 BP, 269 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Thu 15 Oct 2015
at 02:15
  • msg #776

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Looking for 1 more as soon as my match with Lekol is closed out :)

Match Type: Monster Match (Batle Royale)
BP/Hero Limit: CR 7 / No hero points
      Referee: None Required
Participant 1: Brakt - Aquatic Animal
Participant 2: Panian - Aquatic Vermin
Participant 3: ??? - Aquatic ???
Participant 4:
          Map: Large Colloseum
     Lighting: Bright Lighting
      Terrain: Water
        Walls: Force Walls
         Prep: None
       Extras: None
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 270 posts
Warrior
Thu 15 Oct 2015
at 03:21
  • msg #777

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You probably seen enough of me but I will join you two if you like :)
Brakt
Warrior 620 BP, 270 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Thu 15 Oct 2015
at 03:24
  • msg #778

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I don't mind :) Just let me know what type of creature/creatures you're using and I'll post the challenge once the GM hunt is up.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 271 posts
Warrior
Thu 15 Oct 2015
at 05:12
  • msg #779

Re: OOC Discussion 5

What is the formula for multiple creatures when figuring CR?
Tinny Tina
Expert 869 BP, 291 posts
Expert
Thu 15 Oct 2015
at 05:12
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 703 posts
Adept
TA
Thu 15 Oct 2015
at 13:51
  • msg #781

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Hey Arkrim, have you heard from GM Sehlysdre recently? She ok?
Nyssa Quess
Expert 501 BP, 167 posts
Expert
Thu 15 Oct 2015
at 19:17
  • msg #782

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey, Arkim, we're currently waiting for a ruling from you in our monster mash.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 272 posts
Warrior
Fri 16 Oct 2015
at 00:48
  • msg #783

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Looks like we got beat to the challenge thread :(
GM Arkrim
GM, 5806 posts
Game Master
Fri 16 Oct 2015
at 01:39
  • msg #784

Re: OOC Discussion 5

quote:
MONSTER HUNT (PvE)
It costs 1 hero point per person to start a monster hunt with an average APL. You get a 1 hero point discount for every CR above your APL (minimum cost 1). This is a 1-4 player co-op battle where PCs take on a powerful monster (maximized HD just like PCs). Players may choose their match difficulty: easy (CR=APL-1), average (CR=APL), challenging (CR=APL+1), hard (CR=APL+2), epic (CR=APL+3), legendary (CR=APL+4), nightmare (CR=APL+5), insane (CR=APL+6), suicide (CR=APL+7 or more). The GM randomizes the monsters and controls them. All survivors win while those who died in the fight are runner ups (unless everyone dies, then you all lose). Choosing an exact monster or map or map extras costs an extra hero point each and negates the discount for high CRs.

Sorry guys, you miscalculated your CR. Normally a character's CR is their level -1, but here they are = to level. Level 11th, 11th, 10th = 32 / 4 = APL 8, +3 = CR11. Even though there are only 3 players, always divide by 4, as that is the expected number of players for a party. I was going to mention this but I accidentally deleted your challenge post while messing around on my phone so I switched to computer and went ahead and deleted the acceptance ones. My apologies, please post again.

New guy gets a pass as he is new guy and is struggling to catch up. The rest of you will have to repost correctly. Good luck and may the gods have mercy on your souls.
Brakt
Warrior 620 BP, 271 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Fri 16 Oct 2015
at 01:44
  • msg #785

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Are we good to post a challenge now, or do we need to wait for new guys challenge to be posted?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5809 posts
Game Master
Fri 16 Oct 2015
at 02:56
  • msg #786

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You better damn well post an accurate challenge post.

I've got an itchy trigger finger waiting for the next fool to post even the tiniest thing wrong in that thread.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5816 posts
Game Master
Sat 17 Oct 2015
at 03:59
  • msg #787

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Latro, Josep and Hiro, you're going to need to get a referee to control the monster.

I'm busy babysitting the new guy with the training wheels.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 674 BP, 299 posts
Expert
Sat 17 Oct 2015
at 04:08
  • msg #788

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm sure that person isn't allowed to be from any of the guilds,true?  If thats true that is a very small list of gladiators.

GM:
If it won't mess up my monster mash I need the PM reboot we all where talking about over a week ago. What would you like in RTJ pm?  (Hey its me give me back my gladiators please.) :)
GM Arkrim
GM, 5817 posts
Game Master
Sat 17 Oct 2015
at 04:21
  • msg #789

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Get back to me on that when not in the middle of something.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 674 BP, 300 posts
Expert
Sat 17 Oct 2015
at 04:23
  • msg #790

Re: OOC Discussion 5

No problem, I had forgotten about it and just remembered figured I would try and get it fixed.  I'm in no hurry thank you.
Tinny Tina
Expert 869 BP, 292 posts
Expert
Sat 17 Oct 2015
at 04:23
  • msg #791

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Training Dummy:
The writing spider-like monstrosity skitters into the shadows.

Watch out Hal, that spider-thing is literate!
GM Arkrim
GM, 5818 posts
Game Master
Sat 17 Oct 2015
at 05:03
  • msg #792

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Bwahaha! And ONE letter is all it takes to go from writhing to writing.

Thraxis
Expert 638 BP, 229 posts
Expert
Sat 17 Oct 2015
at 05:36
  • msg #793

Re: OOC Discussion 5

After playing Rise of the Runelords, anything with writhing writing is scary... or any other kind of writing.  Also anything that sounds like llamasu.  I can't even go to petting zoos anymore :-P
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 706 posts
Adept
TA
Sat 17 Oct 2015
at 07:30
  • msg #794

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Anyone up for controlling a CR 13 monster against the three guildmasters ?

That would have to be someone who is not in one of the guilds (preferably)

Tina perhaps ?
Thraxis
Expert 638 BP, 230 posts
Expert
Sat 17 Oct 2015
at 13:39
  • msg #795

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm willing to run it.  I know I'm in a guild, but I figure it was better to volunteer with my guild character than with my non-guild one :-P   I'm only volunteering because it looks like most of the non-guilded are: duplicates of Guilded toons, haven't logged on since August/early September, or are the new guy.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 707 posts
Adept
TA
Sun 18 Oct 2015
at 07:22
  • msg #796

Re: OOC Discussion 5

If hat works for everyone else, let's do it ! Thanks Thraxis.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:24, Sun 18 Oct 2015.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,059 BP, 921 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Sun 18 Oct 2015
at 11:59
  • msg #797

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I agree.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,059 BP, 922 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Mon 19 Oct 2015
at 00:52
  • msg #798

Re: OOC Discussion 5

While i'm here, i might as well throw a little shameless self promotion around. I'm writing a D&D themed christmas parody album just because i can. you can check out the first completed track here:
https://soundcloud.com/rlfhog3/im-a-lich
GM Arkrim
GM, 5819 posts
Game Master
Mon 19 Oct 2015
at 01:12
  • msg #799

Re: OOC Discussion 5

That's awesome dude. I shall shamelessly plug you into my social media.
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,059 BP, 923 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Mon 19 Oct 2015
at 03:05
  • msg #800

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yay!! :D
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 708 posts
Adept
TA
Mon 19 Oct 2015
at 09:59
  • msg #801

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 GM, would it be ok to open our monster hunt with Thraxis as a referee, or need we submit a new challenge? Technically, there's one pending at the moment...
GM Arkrim
GM, 5820 posts
Game Master
Mon 19 Oct 2015
at 14:19
  • msg #802

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You can only referee for someone in your guild if EVERYONE in the match is in your guild.

Sorry guys, 1 guild master from each guild is a cool idea, but it was ill-timed.

I haven't heard a response from the newbie. Maybe he vanished. I will get to it when I'm done with that either way or someone else will have to referee.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 709 posts
Adept
TA
Mon 19 Oct 2015
at 14:46
  • msg #803

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 What if I kick Thraxis out of the guild?  ;)
GM Arkrim
GM, 5822 posts
Game Master
Mon 19 Oct 2015
at 14:49
  • msg #804

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Guild hopping penalties if he rejoins...ever.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5823 posts
Game Master
Mon 19 Oct 2015
at 19:26
  • msg #805

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thraxis:
OOC: Unicorns are magical beasts, not magical fungi - they come male and female.  It's just that among humanoids they only like the females.  Also the plan is about to happen, so you should feel free to surrender now, Ankou. ;)

Edward Doyle Remington III:
I had always thought of unicorns as being male, mythologically. Well, that kind of unicorn, in any case.

"Common mythconceptions. Unicorns actually prefer that only virgins ride them. You see, the truth is that unicorns cherish innocence and they are often prude...thus their tendency to hang out with children and geeks.

The presumption that virgins had to be young beautiful females was made by the misogynistic humanoids who observed this phenomena. (since virgin males get ignored while virgin females are treated like treasure and art among most surface dwelling urban humanoids)

So the next time you see a fully grown adult humanoid riding a unicorn...you will know something interesting about their personal life.

Coincidentally, this is also why evil dragons demand virgin sacrifices...to specifically piss off the other mythological creatures that treasure chastity and torment parents into sacrificing their young. Virgins don't actually taste better. Dragons are just spiteful."

-Adam McWizard (High Fantasy equivalent to Adam Ruins Everything)
Edward Doyle Remington III
Expert 498 BP, 291 posts
Expert
Mon 19 Oct 2015
at 19:33
  • msg #806

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Now now, we all know that dragons eat virgins as a humanitarian move, it's part of a population management strategy, and they feel it would be cruel to eat those who might be mothers.

http://www.thebards.net/music/...Dragons_Retort.shtml
Ankou
Expert 576 BP, 301 posts
Expert
Mon 19 Oct 2015
at 19:36
  • msg #807

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Btw, note that some fungi do come as male and female, while some magical beasts don't (like flail snails).
GM Arkrim
GM, 5824 posts
Game Master
Mon 19 Oct 2015
at 21:22
  • msg #808

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Edward Doyle Remington III (msg # 806):

That's just more dragon propaganda used by the "left-wingers" to win over the non-dragon population. The truly humanoiditarian dragons don't even eat humanoids at all. They're just lulling people into a false sense of security with this practice.

Damn traitorous bards spreading this totalitarian propaganda.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 710 posts
Adept
TA
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 09:39
  • msg #809

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Anyone not in a guild willing to referee for the guildmaster monster hunt? Lekol, Brakt, Bruhli, Haran, Tina? Pretty please?
 I would offer something in return, but it will look suspiciously like a bribe...

 Also :
08:52, Today: Ugrim rolled 1,1,1 using 1d00,1d00,1d00 with rolls of 1,1,1.  3 20% miss chances bite, Ten, Ten.

 Ugrim, you deserve the trophy for unluckiest orc ever. Arkrim, please, please, create a new record category for this kind of colossal fumbling.
Brakt
Warrior 620 BP, 274 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 10:53
  • msg #810

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well... I would but... I'm in Hiros guild at the moment, though Latro waa trying to corrupt me. What are the guild hopping penalties anyway?
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 711 posts
Adept
TA
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 11:34
  • msg #811

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I don't think anyone had ever hopped. AFAIK, they're not worded.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 276 posts
Warrior
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 12:23
  • msg #812

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sorry Josep I control a Guilded toon as well.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 712 posts
Adept
TA
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 12:31
  • msg #813

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 GM Arkrim, the idea behind the rule that a referee has to be non-aligned is to keep things fair and balanced for all gladiators involved, right?
 What if the three gladiators mutually agree on a referee?

 I personnaly don't mind having a referee is from Hiro's guild.

 Or Lactro's... (he added reluctantly ;)
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 277 posts
Warrior
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 12:37
  • msg #814

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Or have Brakt, Thraxis, whoever from Latro's guild all three referee, and they amongst them selves choose one who will control the beast.


The Guild leaders have waited long enough for this thing to kick off.
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 181 posts
Expert
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 12:57
  • msg #815

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I volunteer as tribute?
Brakt
Warrior 620 BP, 275 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 13:02
  • msg #816

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Don't you have another monster to contro as well? :P
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 182 posts
Expert
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 13:06
  • msg #817

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yes, the crab is being crabby as we speak
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 713 posts
Adept
TA
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 13:13
  • msg #818

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Are you saying you're not in a guild and none of your alternate identity is?

 If that's the case, yay! We have a referee!
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 184 posts
Expert
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 13:17
  • msg #819

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I am not in a guild and have no other characters. I am in a Monster Mash match right now, if that disqualifies me.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 714 posts
Adept
TA
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 13:56
  • msg #820

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Let's hope it does not...
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 715 posts
Adept
TA
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 15:38
  • msg #821

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 What's going on Lekol? You don't want to play with the big crab and the even bigger shark?
Brakt
Warrior 620 BP, 277 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 15:39
  • msg #822

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Not a big shark at all, just a baby! :(
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 279 posts
Warrior
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 15:48
  • msg #823

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lol I was afraid I was going to be the appetizer now it looks like I may be the after dinner mint ;)
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 716 posts
Adept
TA
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 15:52
  • msg #824

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Interesting setup anyway!
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 280 posts
Warrior
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 16:15
  • msg #825

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Those two picked opposite each other nicely, all I saw was vermin for Panian then while looking up which CR7 to use I saw Rot Grub swarm and all I could think of is the situation you and Thraxis are in.
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 185 posts
Expert
Tue 20 Oct 2015
at 23:58
  • msg #826

Re: OOC Discussion 5

You brought a brine dragon to tangle with a shark and a SHARK. EATING. CRAAAAAAAB!

It's got to be by far the best monster I've found in any d20 game ever
Brakt
Warrior 620 BP, 278 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 00:27
  • msg #827

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah Lekol.

Don't you know better then to bring a Dragon to an All-Out Shark fight? :P
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 281 posts
Warrior
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 01:22
  • msg #828

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lol like I said I made my choice on the asumption that I was going to meet a swarm


Halungalom you should look back at some of Kazan's fight give you a good idea on how to work things as a swashbuckler it may help.
Brakt
Warrior 620 BP, 279 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 01:38
  • msg #829

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey guys.

Solve a question for us.  Arkrim, I'll pay 1% BP if you can give me an answer :)

The Grab ability says:

Grab:
If the creature does not constrict, each successful grapple check it makes during successive rounds automatically deals the damage indicated for the attack that established the hold.


Grapple says:

Grapple:
Once you are grappling an opponent, a successful check allows you to continue grappling the foe, and also allows you to perform one of the following actions (as part of the standard action spent to maintain the grapple).

Damage

You can inflict damage to your target equal to your unarmed strike, a natural attack, or an attack made with armor spikes or a light or one-handed weapon. This damage can be either lethal or nonlethal.




Question:

Is the automatic damage from Grab the same as the damage action while in a grapple, or will this give 2 attacks?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5825 posts
Game Master
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 02:13
  • msg #830

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ugrim:
01:52, Today: Ugrim rolled 1,1,1 using 1d00,1d00,1d00 with rolls of 1,1,1.  3 20% miss chances bite, Ten, Ten. (What the shit?)

Daaaaaaaaamn...

Ugrim's natural 1's are nothing beyond incredible. A statistician would be dumbfounded. That was LITERALLY one in a million chance of happening.



Brakt:
Solve a question for us.  Arkrim, I'll pay 1% BP if you can give me an answer :)

You guys want questions answered at the cost of 1% BP, PM me the question.

You want disputes settled, let me know in your match WHEN IT HAPPENS (not before).
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:14, Wed 21 Oct 2015.
Brakt
Warrior 620 BP, 281 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 02:16
  • msg #831

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well, it is happening now, but was talking to Panian about it privately.

PM being sent now.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:20, Wed 21 Oct 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5827 posts
Game Master
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 02:54
  • msg #832

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Brakt (msg # 831):

You know, if you'd just asked in the match and waited patiently, you wouldn't have had to pay that BP.

Let that be a lesson on the value of patience.
Brakt
Warrior 614 BP, 282 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 03:09
  • msg #833

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well... I thought about it.  But then I thought that since I had the question, it wasn't a dispute anyone else had raised, I should just suck up and pay the BP.


As long as I follow the system, everyone's happy, right?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5828 posts
Game Master
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 03:22
  • msg #834

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah pretty much. *shrugs*

But I'm content offering free morals to the story. :P
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 717 posts
Adept
TA
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 09:53
  • msg #835

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 GM Arkrim, would it be all right for Panian to referee our match even though he's currently puppeteering a gargantuan Shark? Pretty please with bacon on the side? And cheese on top? And a bottle of Bordeaux to rinse it all?
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 188 posts
Expert
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 12:00
  • msg #836

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 835):

That's a shark-eating crab I'm controlling, WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS TERRIBLE AT LIVING UP TO IT'S NAMESAKE. The match should be over real soon, though. I don't see much hope for Lekol's tiny little dragon against the ancient death machine.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 718 posts
Adept
TA
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 20:13
  • msg #837

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Good call Ario! Turns out Ugrim is not the unluckiest orc, just the worst at typing!
GM Arkrim
GM, 5830 posts
Game Master
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 20:57
  • msg #838

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 837):

Bwahahahaha!!!!
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 455 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Wed 21 Oct 2015
at 21:47
  • msg #839

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thank the gods too. I was really peeved.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 288 posts
Warrior
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 02:50
  • msg #840

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian, Brakt you guys wanna go again?

I was browsing through the paizo PFSRD there is only 3 CR 30 creatures in the beasteries index wanna do a CR30 match :)
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 190 posts
Expert
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 02:51
  • msg #841

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt and Lekol, our match went quickly but how do you think about this?

PANIAN challenges BRAKT and LEKOL!

   Match Type: Monster Mash
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Panian CR 3 ???
Participant 2: Brakt CR 3 ???
Participant 3: Lekol CR 3 ???
Participant 4: None
          Map: Small Colliseum
     Lighting: Normal Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: None
       Extras: None

OOC: Lower CR for possibly a more interesting match?
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 289 posts
Warrior
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 02:58
  • msg #842

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sounds good to me I was being funny suggesting the CR 30
Brakt
Warrior 614 BP, 288 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 03:07
  • msg #843

Re: OOC Discussion 5

CR30 wouldn't ever finish lol.

I'm happy with 3.

Participant 2: Brakt CR 3 Animal - No immunities.

Extra: Nothing that makes you harder to hit. (Flying/Invis/Ehtreal/Swarm etc)
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 191 posts
Expert
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 03:14
  • msg #844

Re: OOC Discussion 5

quote:
PANIAN challenges BRAKT and LEKOL!

   Match Type: Monster Mash
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Panian CR 3 Magical Beast
Participant 2: Brakt CR 3 Animal
Participant 3: Lekol CR 3 ???
Participant 4: None
          Map: Small Colliseum
     Lighting: Normal Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: None
       Extras: No Incorporeal, Ethereal, Flying, or Climbing

OOC: Lower CR for possibly a more interesting match?


Extras work out okay here?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5837 posts
Game Master
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 03:44
  • msg #845

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Updates:

  • After October, monster mashes still don't count towards leaderboard but they grant BP.
  • Monster mashes will award BP as follows regardless of CR: win 90, draw 60, lose 30.
  • Mythic ranks are now available (see Character Creation).
  • Source books cost twice as much now (be prepared to adjust costs for your next character match).

Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 290 posts
Warrior
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 03:48
  • msg #846

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian:
quote:
PANIAN challenges BRAKT and LEKOL!

   Match Type: Monster Mash
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Panian CR 3 Magical Beast
Participant 2: Brakt CR 3 Animal
Participant 3: Lekol CR 3 outsider  immune: electricity and poison
Participant 4: None
          Map: Small Colliseum
     Lighting: Normal Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: None
       Extras: No Incorporeal, Ethereal, Flying, or Climbing

OOC: Lower CR for possibly a more interesting match?

Panian
Expert 519 BP, 192 posts
Expert
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 03:56
  • msg #847

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lekol, Brakt, seems good. Now, to just wait for the challenge thread to be open.

In the meantime, the Playable Race section of the Character Creation thread is throwing me off a bit. The minimum level requirement for races made sense when we weren't able to change our level and whatnot before the second half of the BP Update, but now I'm confused on how exactly we're able to determine what we can play. Is it simply that we need enough BP to make a character of that level?
Brakt
Warrior 614 BP, 289 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 03:58
  • msg #848

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sounds good to me


You must have a minimum character level equal to at least 1/4th your race points -1
Ogres are 28 RP and 28/4=7-1=6, so, to play an ogre, you must be at least level 6.
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 193 posts
Expert
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 04:02
  • msg #849

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt, I've read that section and the thing is that now our characters simply have one of the three gladiator categories, rather than a set race/level/class, which is where my confusion comes in. Right now I could make a 9th level character or a 1st level if I so choose. Does this now mean that I simply need the BP to make a character of the minimum level needed for a race?
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 291 posts
Warrior
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 04:03
  • msg #850

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Challenge thread is open been more than 48 hours since last post I believe we can post up challenge as soon as our MM is locked by GM.

What Brakt said its your actual charracter lvl not how much BP you have (exvcept you need enough to buy race)
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 194 posts
Expert
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 04:06
  • msg #851

Re: OOC Discussion 5

So wait, if I'm parsing all this correctly, to make a race of certain RP, the character needs to be of a certain level to qualify for the race?
Tinny Tina
Expert 869 BP, 293 posts
Expert
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 04:07
  • msg #852

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yes
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 195 posts
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 04:13
  • [deleted]
  • msg #853

Re: OOC Discussion 5

This message was deleted by the player at 04:48, Fri 23 Oct 2015.
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 196 posts
Expert
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 04:50
  • msg #854

Re: OOC Discussion 5

@Brakt @Lekol

quote:
PANIAN challenges BRAKT and LEKOL!

   Match Type: Monster Mash
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Panian CR 3 Magical Beast
Participant 2: Brakt CR 3 ???
Participant 3: Lekol CR 3 ???
Participant 4: None
          Map: Small Colliseum
     Lighting: Normal Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: None
       Extras: No Incorporeal, Ethereal, Flying, or Climbing; No creatures with Summon ability.

OOC: Pokemon match!?


Changed it up to level the playing field a bit more
This message was last edited by the player at 04:51, Fri 23 Oct 2015.
Madam Opal
Warrior 359 BP, 509 posts
Adept
Shadow's Caress
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 07:01
  • msg #855

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian:
@Brakt @Lekol

quote:
PANIAN challenges BRAKT and LEKOL!

   Match Type: Monster Mash
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Panian CR 3 Magical Beast
Participant 2: Brakt CR 3 ???
Participant 3: Lekol CR 3 ???
Participant 4: None
          Map: Small Colliseum
     Lighting: Normal Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: None
       Extras: No Incorporeal, Ethereal, Flying, or Climbing; No creatures with Summon ability.

OOC: Pokemon match!?


Changed it up to level the playing field a bit more


You gentlemen mind if an old lady shares in your fun?
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 719 posts
Adept
TA
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 07:07
  • msg #856

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Panian, the guild masters were sort of hoping you would referee their match (and incidentally play the CR13 monster) -- are you still willing to do that ?
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 197 posts
Expert
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 11:51
  • msg #857

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Reading through competition rules, Josep, I have one question for you: Will being a referee gain me BP?
This message was last edited by the player at 11:56, Fri 23 Oct 2015.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 720 posts
Adept
TA
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 12:05
  • msg #858

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I'm in no position to rule on this, but I would gladly pay you 90BP to be the referee in this fight...
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 198 posts
Expert
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 12:28
  • msg #859

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep Gavinho:
I'm in no position to rule on this, but I would gladly pay you 90BP to be the referee in this fight...


My concern is not being able to participate in as many Monster Mash fights as I can before the end of the month. We've only got a week left, which could be two matches if we were super lucky and everyone posted expediently. I'd be lying if I said Arkrim's october event wasn't more appealing than the chance to lay the smackdown on the guild leaders, heh


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If I had any say in the picking of the monster, by the way, it'd probably be a thanadaemon.

Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 721 posts
Adept
TA
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 12:40
  • msg #860

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I understand your point and sympathize. If I had foreseen that we would be waiting for two months to get this started, I think I would have indulged in an October Madness Monster Mash myself.

 I can only regret that you cannot play the monster in out match whilst still doing your own.
 And weep.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:46, Fri 23 Oct 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5838 posts
Game Master
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 13:25
  • msg #861

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Why don't you fools just do a monster mash between the three of you and THEN do your guild monster hunt afterwards? There's still time.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:27, Fri 23 Oct 2015.
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 199 posts
Expert
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 14:24
  • msg #862

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Madam Opal (msg # 855):

I dont have a problem with it.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 292 posts
Warrior
Fri 23 Oct 2015
at 14:31
  • msg #863

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Nor I, the more the merrier
Brakt
Warrior 614 BP, 290 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Sat 24 Oct 2015
at 00:37
  • msg #864

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Doesn't bother me :)
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 293 posts
Warrior
Sat 24 Oct 2015
at 17:44
  • msg #865

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Madam opal please give us your info or add it to challenge and post it while challenge thread is open.
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 200 posts
Expert
Sat 24 Oct 2015
at 22:37
  • msg #866

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Well I'd like to get the challenge put up in full when I post it, so if y'all could copypasta that from before with relevant necessary info, that'd be fantastic.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 294 posts
Warrior
Sat 24 Oct 2015
at 23:21
  • msg #867

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lekol:
Panian:
quote:
PANIAN challenges BRAKT and LEKOL!

   Match Type: Monster Mash
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Panian CR 3 Magical Beast
Participant 2: Brakt CR 3 Animal
Participant 3: Lekol CR 3 outsider  immune: electricity and poison
Participant 4: None
          Map: Small Colliseum
     Lighting: Normal Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: None
       Extras: No Incorporeal, Ethereal, Flying, or Climbing

OOC: Lower CR for possibly a more interesting match?

This should be it minus madam opal
Panian
Expert 519 BP, 201 posts
Expert
Sat 24 Oct 2015
at 23:40
  • msg #868

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I added "No creatures with the summon ability" to the Extras.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 295 posts
Warrior
Sun 25 Oct 2015
at 00:01
  • msg #869

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lol well that means I need to change my pick if you are going to start changing rules

Also I want small random map if we are changing rules willy nilly
This message was last edited by the player at 01:13, Sun 25 Oct 2015.
Madam Opal
Warrior 359 BP, 510 posts
Adept
Shadow's Caress
Sun 25 Oct 2015
at 01:55
  • msg #870

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I choose a CR 3 Elemental - Standard Elemental Immunities


PANIAN challenges BRAKT LEKOL, and OPAL!

   Match Type: Monster Mash
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Panian CR 3 Magical Beast
Participant 2: Brakt CR 3 Animal
Participant 3: Lekol CR 3 outsider  immune: electricity and poison - ???
Participant 4: Opal CR 3 Elemental - Standard Elemental Immunities
          Map: Random??
     Lighting: Normal Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: None
       Extras: No Incorporeal, Ethereal, Flying, Climbing, or Summoning

OOC: Lower CR for possibly a more interesting match?

This message was last edited by the player at 01:55, Sun 25 Oct 2015.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 296 posts
Warrior
Sun 25 Oct 2015
at 05:10
  • msg #871

Re: OOC Discussion 5





PANIAN challenges BRAKT LEKOL, and OPAL!

   Match Type: Monster Mash
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Panian CR 3 Magical Beast
Participant 2: Brakt CR 3 Animal
Participant 3: Lekol CR 3 outsider - Standard Elemental Immunities
Participant 4: Opal CR 3 Elemental - Standard Elemental Immunities
          Map: Small Random
     Lighting: Normal Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: None
       Extras: No Incorporeal, Ethereal, Flying, Climbing, or Summoning

OOC: Lower CR for possibly a more interesting match?




Is this good with everyone?
Madam Opal
Warrior 359 BP, 511 posts
Adept
Shadow's Caress
Sun 25 Oct 2015
at 08:04
  • msg #872

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Just to make sure thats not a copy/past error, Is that outsider supposed to have elemental immunities?

Otherwise, I'm ready to go.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 297 posts
Warrior
Sun 25 Oct 2015
at 12:33
  • msg #873

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah elementals are outsiders
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 298 posts
Warrior
Sun 25 Oct 2015
at 18:08
  • msg #874

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM may we have our MM#4 closed out please when you get a moment we woud like to squeeze another in.
Madam Opal
Warrior 359 BP, 512 posts
Adept
Shadow's Caress
Sun 25 Oct 2015
at 18:47
  • msg #875

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ah, so they are. (looks at my own monster)

Well then, let me make a slight tweek and then my part of the post will be accurate


PANIAN challenges BRAKT LEKOL, and OPAL!

   Match Type: Monster Mash
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Panian CR 3 Magical Beast
Participant 2: Brakt CR 3 Animal
Participant 3: Lekol CR 3 outsider - Standard Elemental Immunities
Participant 4: Opal CR 3 outsider - Standard Elemental Immunities
          Map: Small Random
     Lighting: Normal Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: None
       Extras: No Incorporeal, Ethereal, Flying, Climbing, or Summoning

OOC: Lower CR for possibly a more interesting match?

Maelstrom
Warrior 759 BP, 269 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Sun 25 Oct 2015
at 20:09
  • msg #876

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Josep, how about you and I fight? I know we talked about this months ago, but held off thinking the monster hunt was about to happen. How does the below look? On a side note, I'm pretty sure what you guys are doing in the Monster Mashes is illegal in all 50 states. Mike Vick got in trouble for something like that. Anyway...

Maelstrom challenges Josep Gavinho to a 1v1 duel.

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: {No Limit} BP / {No Limit} Hero Points
      Referee: {None}
Participant 1: {Maelstrom, Human, Monk 8}
Participant 2: {Josep Gavinho, ????, ???? }
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Small Random
     Lighting: Standard light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: {1 Round}
       Extras: No Spider Climbing, Flying, levitating, or using hero points for extra actions.

OOC:
This message was last edited by the player at 20:11, Sun 25 Oct 2015.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 722 posts
Adept
TA
Sun 25 Oct 2015
at 20:19
  • msg #877

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 I was just thinking that from the outside, it must look like the winter hag came checking on her caged monsters and that they have grown out of control and are about to break out!

 We're currently considering a monster mash with Hiro and Latro (to make sure that when it is done, we're all free to start the monster hunt)

 You're welcome to join though ! CR12, no special rules.
Maelstrom
Warrior 759 BP, 270 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Sun 25 Oct 2015
at 20:59
  • msg #878

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thanks for the invite, I'll probably sit this one out. I haven't really done any research to find out what creature would be best. So I wouldn't want to delay you guys. Reading the monster mashes have been entertaining.

Additionally, 'Maelstrom' has moral qualms about it :P
Nyssa Quess
Expert 501 BP, 179 posts
Expert
Mon 26 Oct 2015
at 01:29
  • msg #879

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm happy to get in a Monster Mash if there's space in it.
Nyssa Quess
Expert 501 BP, 180 posts
Expert
Mon 26 Oct 2015
at 01:49
  • msg #880

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Assuming my current match finishes, that is, I had forgot it had not.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5850 posts
Game Master
Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 04:23
  • msg #881

Re: OOC Discussion 5

To everyone actually stupid enough to start a new match before your old one has been closed: You have forfeited ALL your rewards from your previous match.

You should have waited or bumped the finished fight and waited for it to close before moving on.

There are no excuses, the rules are very clear in the challenge thread. Anyone who hasn't figured it out by now is either reckless or idiotic and I'm not pulling punches anymore.

I do not want apologies and I do not want to point fingers or name names. I'm just telling you all how it is.

That is all.

/GM rant
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:39, Wed 28 Oct 2015.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 300 posts
Warrior
Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 07:08
  • msg #882

Re: OOC Discussion 5

quiet night.
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 234 posts
Expert
Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 15:42
  • msg #883

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Anyone up for a quick monster mash fight?

EDIT:

   Match Type: Monster Match (Batle Royale)
BP/Hero Limit: CR 5 / No hero points
      Referee:
Participant 1: Ario 1
Participant 2: Could be you
Participant 3: Could be you
Participant 4: n/a
          Map: Small Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard Lighting (From Torches - you're welcome, undeads)
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: None
       Extras: Can't fly more than 5' off the ground.

Choose from Skeletal Champion, Dire Bat, Wererat or Werewolf.  I'll choose between the last two remaining before posting in the challenge thread

This message was last edited by the player at 16:20, Wed 28 Oct 2015.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5855 posts
Game Master
Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 01:16
  • msg #884

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I just realized players can customize the monsters with templates after seeing one of these fights.

I wonder what OTHER horrors you little nightmares can unleash on each other...
Nyssa Quess
Expert 568 BP, 181 posts
Expert
Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 03:00
  • msg #885

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ario:
Anyone up for a quick monster mash fight?

EDIT:

   Match Type: Monster Match (Batle Royale)
BP/Hero Limit: CR 5 / No hero points
      Referee:
Participant 1: Ario 1
Participant 2: Could be you
Participant 3: Could be you
Participant 4: n/a
          Map: Small Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard Lighting (From Torches - you're welcome, undeads)
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: None
       Extras: Can't fly more than 5' off the ground.

Choose from Skeletal Champion, Dire Bat, Wererat or Werewolf.  I'll choose between the last two remaining before posting in the challenge thread

I'd be happy to.  I'll take Werewolf, though those are all CR 2 creatures, so I presume '5' is a typo?
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 235 posts
Expert
Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 03:14
  • msg #886

Re: OOC Discussion 5

It is a typo, I fixed it below.

   Match Type: Monster Match (Batle Royale)
BP/Hero Limit: CR 2 / No hero points
      Referee:
Participant 1: Ario
Participant 2: Nyssa Quess, Werewolf
Participant 3: Could be you
Participant 4: n/a
          Map: Small Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard Lighting (From Torches - you're welcome, undeads)
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: None
       Extras: Can't fly more than 5' off the ground.


Choose from Skeletal Champion, Dire Bat, Wererat or Werewolf.  I'll choose between the last two remaining before posting in the challenge thread.

Anyone want the remaining slot?  I'll plan to post the challenge tomorrow afternoon as a duel if no one takes us up on it, so we can get it finished by the end of the special event.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:14, Thu 29 Oct 2015.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 301 posts
Warrior
Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 12:18
  • msg #887

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Is there a limit to how many templates you can add to a creature?

Ario you need at least 3 to qualify for October event.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5856 posts
Game Master
Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 13:39
  • msg #888

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Not officially, but you can agree to limit it.
Nyssa Quess
Expert 568 BP, 182 posts
Expert
Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 16:59
  • msg #889

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lekol:
Ario you need at least 3 to qualify for October event.

I believe you simply get half rewards for it being a duel.
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 236 posts
Expert
Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 19:50
  • msg #890

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Nyssa, you want me to put the match up as a challenge or wait a while to see if we get a third?
Nyssa Quess
Expert 568 BP, 183 posts
Expert
Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 20:06
  • msg #891

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Mm, might as well wait a few hours if you'll be on later?  If someone wants to join in, say, the next six hours or so, great, otherwise we'll go just the two of us?
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 237 posts
Expert
Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 20:41
  • msg #892

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sounds good.

EDIT: Up for modifying the creature list?  I just realized that the werewolf is the only one actually capable of harming all of the others.  I saw no DR under human form, but shifting to hybrid, he's invulnerable to all the others, barring a lucky damage roll for 1-2 total.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:45, Thu 29 Oct 2015.
Nyssa Quess
Expert 568 BP, 184 posts
Expert
Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 23:06
  • msg #893

Re: OOC Discussion 5

*shiftyeyes* I might have noticed that and claimed the werewolf for that reason.

Changing creature list might be good.
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 238 posts
Expert
Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 23:39
  • msg #894

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I was so pleased with my themey list too :-\

How about we bump the CR to 3, and each (including anyone who opts in in the next couple of hours) control a pair of apocalypse zombies, which go on the same initiative?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestia...ie/zombie-apocalypse
Nyssa Quess
Expert 568 BP, 185 posts
Expert
Fri 30 Oct 2015
at 00:03
  • msg #895

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sure, sounds fine.
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 239 posts
Expert
Fri 30 Oct 2015
at 00:30
  • msg #896

Re: OOC Discussion 5


   Match Type: Monster Match (Batle Royale)
BP/Hero Limit: CR 3 / No hero points
      Referee:
Participant 1: Ario
Participant 2: Nyssa Quess
Participant 3: Could be you
Participant 4: n/a
          Map: Small Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard Lighting (From Torches - you're welcome, undeads)
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: None
       Extras: Everyone gets 2 apocalypse zombies http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestia...ie/zombie-apocalypse


Last call for a third.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 303 posts
Warrior
Sat 31 Oct 2015
at 23:05
  • msg #897

Re: OOC Discussion 5



                                                     /.
                                                 __ / |
                                                 \   " '-.
                            ..--'''-._            > `-'.'
                         ,-'      _.--'          /.-). |
                  _    _'       ,'              '   | `'
                  |  .'|     __/    _         __    |
                  |=)==|  .--||--.  |--. __   /     |
        .         |/|  |/    ||   \ |   \ \  /  _   |   _,.
       / \        | |  ||    ||   | |   |  \/ ,/ '.-'-./.--, /\
   .--' " '-.    :| |  | `--'||--'/\|--'   /   ,-(  oo )'.--'" `-.
    '. `-'_/   _ |  |      _ '|.-' "|-.. _/   / /'`'-'`'\ `.`-' .-'
      |/'.|    | '  /_  _  | \|'-.`-|.'   `   ` `.|      ` |.'. |
      '   |====| '.--|  |  | .--.|._)| _   _  _.' | _          `|
          |    |/ \| |  |  |/    \.||  | .' \'.'`\  |.--.
          |    ||  | |  |  ||    | ||--|'|---'|---' |   |
          |    | `--'|  |  | `--'  |/\ | \  _ \ /_  |   |
                   | '. |          '| '|  `-'  `-'  |   |
           .   ,_  |   `._          |        ,'
           /\___,\.'--./`--._       |    mx-' /`.._
        ..' "  / ( oo  )'`\, `'--...|.--'` -'' "  /
         `.`-' '/'`'-'`'`-,         |       `.`-' \
          |.-'.\`'                  |       /_.''-.\
          '     '               _   |   _  '`
                             _.'_\.-'-.' \,
                             ,/' (  oo ).'-,
                                /'`'-'`'\
                               `         `

GM Arkrim
GM, 5857 posts
Game Master
Sun 1 Nov 2015
at 03:55
  • msg #898

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Lekol (msg # 897):

I second the motion.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5859 posts
Game Master
Mon 2 Nov 2015
at 20:08
  • msg #899

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Do not PM questions to the GM unless you're offering to pay BP for an answer.

All questions in relation to your match must be public and specific (just as any dispute must be).
GM Arkrim
GM, 5860 posts
Game Master
Wed 4 Nov 2015
at 13:59
  • msg #900

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Tomorrow is the last day for Monster Mashes. Try to have yours wrapped up by then to get the October bonus. If not, you'll receive a regular BP reward instead. Good luck.
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 241 posts
Expert
Fri 6 Nov 2015
at 18:15
  • msg #901

Re: OOC Discussion 5

As we did not get to start before 11/1 could nyssa and I please have our pending monster mash cancelled?

Also, anyone up for a normal match?
Maelstrom
Warrior 759 BP, 271 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 9 Nov 2015
at 04:22
  • msg #902

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ario, I may take you up on that offer. How about standard everything. The only extra I'd ask for is that you can only use hero points for rerolls.
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 242 posts
Expert
Mon 9 Nov 2015
at 04:43
  • msg #903

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sounds good to me.  What is your class and level, and I'll get us posted.

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Ario, Human, Rogue 9
Participant 2: Maelstrom, Human, ???
          Map: Small Coliseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: -
       Extras: Hero points can only be used for re-rolls
Maelstrom
Warrior 759 BP, 272 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Tue 10 Nov 2015
at 04:50
  • msg #904

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Whoops, I actually just made one change with the map. If the map choice is alright, then go ahead and post. I'll accept.

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: None
Participant 1: Ario, Human, Rogue 9
Participant 2: Maelstrom, Human, Monk 8
          Map: Small Sniper Valley
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Plains
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: -
       Extras: Hero points can only be used for re-rolls
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 243 posts
Expert
Tue 10 Nov 2015
at 05:53
  • msg #905

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'd have no interest in being on that map, even if you weren't a monk.  Want to randomize or pick another?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5863 posts
Game Master
Tue 10 Nov 2015
at 06:29
  • msg #906

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Randomize always has had some interesting results with this large, huge and colossal creatures. I'm surprised anyone with huge+ monsters would ever randomize any of these maps. They're clearly designed for Large and smaller except for a handful of them.

Sadly, I have not enough space or time to design them bigger.
Brakt
Warrior 814 BP, 300 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Tue 10 Nov 2015
at 06:41
  • msg #907

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Most maps aren't even designed for Large characters.

... Something I'm going to have to keep track of.
Thraxis
Expert 838 BP, 294 posts
Expert
Tue 10 Nov 2015
at 12:59
  • msg #908

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Mistakes were made.  Fun was had*.  Big harmless** animals were murdered.


*This fight was conducted by professionsals, do not try to fight dinosaurs in your own home.
**To creatures cr 11+, as well as most medium size creatures in fog-filled houses.  Do not try to fill your home with fog, smoke, or any other gas.

This message was last edited by the player at 16:45, Tue 10 Nov 2015.
Ankou
Expert 776 BP, 359 posts
Expert
Tue 10 Nov 2015
at 13:43
  • msg #909

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Animals were harmed in the making of this video.
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 311 posts
Warrior
Tue 10 Nov 2015
at 14:45
  • msg #910

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM if you can I would like to do the whole new RTJ Private Message thing my game is on hold for probably another 24 hours or so atleast.
Maelstrom
Warrior 759 BP, 273 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Tue 10 Nov 2015
at 15:00
  • msg #911

Re: OOC Discussion 5

As a melee character, I wouldn't really benefit from the map as much as you think. I could move around a lot more easily in it, but just as easily as if on small coliseum. And once I get next to you, there wouldn't really be a point to continue moving around. Truth be told, it's actually a good map for ranged agile characters like you (hence the name). That said, random small works for me.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 774 BP, 363 posts
Expert
Tue 10 Nov 2015
at 15:03
  • msg #912

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I remmeber our duel unless you have changed your build you are just as deadly at range as up close and extremely hard to hit just saying :)
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 244 posts
Expert
Tue 10 Nov 2015
at 16:49
  • msg #913

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I also don't want to deal with abundant step and combat maneuvers on a map with a 6 square drop, and cover everywhere.  I'll post with random small shortly.
Maelstrom
Warrior 759 BP, 275 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Tue 10 Nov 2015
at 19:16
  • msg #914

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ah Grunyar, that map forced me to use range :P Speaking oh which, maybe you and I could do a 2v2 against some people later.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5864 posts
Game Master
Wed 11 Nov 2015
at 06:02
  • msg #915

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey guys, between developing the new Cosmos RPG and my day job, I'm spread so thin, I'm ready to vanish at any moment.

All matches will require an assigned 3rd-party referee from now on. No exceptions. ALL rules questions and disputes are handled by the referee.

If the referee can't figure it out or decide, they can take a vote in the OOC. DO NOT ARGUE IN THE OCC. Don't disagree, don't explain your reasoning, just vote for an option that's available or make a simple recommendation and only do so if the referee asks for it. NO REVOTES, NO ARGUING.

If a player is ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN the referee made a bad call, they can call for a vote instead, but if the other players vote against the player who called the vote, they get an automatic foul for calling the vote when the referee already made the call. The Tyrant Arkrim has fallen. This is now a democracy.

I, the last remaining active GM and dark foreboding presence laying deep within the catacombs of your new democratic castle, should only be contacted if a match needs to be opened/closed, a new player/character wants to join, or if there is an OOC dispute (flaming or harassment for example). All other reasons for contacting me will be ignored until...well, until a miracle happens.

My apologies for all the delays, every time I ever lost my temper or made a bad call. I tried, I really did. I'll try to check in every once in a while but I don't have much time for detailed stuff. It has been an honor serving you all and being the cranky grandpa who never wants to give you your snacks, but doing so anyway. Hopefully you guys can work it out this way until we get more time/GMs. Good luck!
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:11, Wed 11 Nov 2015.
Brakt
Warrior 814 BP, 301 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Wed 11 Nov 2015
at 06:39
  • msg #916

Re: OOC Discussion 5

We've loved everything you've done Arkim, thanks so much!
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 246 posts
Expert
Wed 11 Nov 2015
at 12:04
  • msg #917

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thanks for running this Arkrim, and for keeping the lights on for the interim, rather than giving us all the boot!


Is anyone willing to ref the match for Maelstrom and I?
Thraxis
Expert 938 BP, 296 posts
Expert
Wed 11 Nov 2015
at 14:19
  • msg #918

Re: OOC Discussion 5

For Josep/Latro/Hiro:

Web universal monster rule, after an alternate use of the ability, gives the hit points as the HD of the monster that created it, with DR 5/-.

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG...salMonsterRules.html
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 993 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Wed 11 Nov 2015
at 16:26
  • msg #919

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Thraxis (msg # 918):

Nice, thanks! That makes it MUCH less broken :)
Latro Dectus
Warrior 1,059 BP, 941 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Thu 12 Nov 2015
at 03:42
  • msg #920

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Only problem is, its not a "Web" ability. its an "Umbral Web" ability.

Web is an Ex ability while Umbral Web is an Su ability. They are in fact two entirely different things with incredibly different readings.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 1,074 BP, 368 posts
Expert
Thu 12 Nov 2015
at 14:21
  • msg #921

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Ario (msg # 917):

I'm not the most versed in rules but I will do best I can if you would like me to ref your match.
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 247 posts
Expert
Thu 12 Nov 2015
at 15:29
  • msg #922

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sounds good to me.  You in agreement with that, Maelstrom?
Maelstrom
Warrior 759 BP, 276 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Thu 12 Nov 2015
at 23:41
  • msg #923

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Yeah, we'd appreciate your being our ref Grunyar. Thanks! I'm fine with it. Hopefully we won't throw anything too complicated at you.

Also, Ario, should we repost the challenge with Grunyar as our ref? Or is this confirmation enough?
This message was last edited by the player at 23:43, Thu 12 Nov 2015.
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 248 posts
Expert
Fri 13 Nov 2015
at 01:10
  • msg #924

Re: OOC Discussion 5

It's been 48 and the last is invalid, so we should probably repost.  I'll have it up in a second.
Brakt
Warrior 814 BP, 306 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 16 Nov 2015
at 23:01
  • msg #925

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lekol.  After your sandman dies to Opals sandman, do you want to 1v1 a small Colosseum? :)
Lekol
Warrior 553 BP, 317 posts
Warrior
Mon 16 Nov 2015
at 23:49
  • msg #926

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Sure but I'd like to try and get with GM about my RTJ PM getting replaced I would like an official line to GM.  I really disagree with a call and would like a chance to make my case even if nothing changes at least I know my side was heard and I did not just roll over on a call I feel was bad that really hurt my character progression.
Maelstrom
Warrior 759 BP, 285 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Wed 18 Nov 2015
at 03:46
  • msg #927

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Lekol (msg # 926):

'Thems the breaks.'

Speaking of which, does anybody else want to fight once our match gets closed out? Or Ario we could have our rematch now or sometime in the future once we've progressed.
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 263 posts
Expert
Wed 18 Nov 2015
at 13:01
  • msg #928

Re: OOC Discussion 5

FAQ link for the guild master game:

http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9qe9

(The bludgeoning damage would be reduced by DR if the DR isn't explicitly bypassed by bludgeoning damage.)
This message was last edited by the player at 13:06, Wed 18 Nov 2015.
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 746 posts
Adept
TA
Wed 18 Nov 2015
at 13:26
  • msg #929

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 That certainly clarifies it.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 1,074 BP, 380 posts
Expert
Fri 20 Nov 2015
at 03:27
  • msg #930

Re: OOC Discussion 5

GM is there any way to help lighten your load but still be able to compete?


I was thinking (I know thats scary) would it help if I took over Challenge thread: by starting match threads, closing out finished matches, and start a new thread that has everyones BP (match numbers and math in a private line to GM) & hero points (in a private line to player) in a table I would maintane so that I am not looking at charracter sheets allow the players to edit that line on thier sheets but it must match the table no oops I fudged a number stiff penalty for "cheating" on purpose or not.

I was also wondering what your thoughts where on having a Guild "secretary" who would be responsible for doing the fact checking on ONLY fellow Guild members charracter sheets that way they are still able to compete against other Guilds it would require all alternate  personalities of that person to be in the Guild.  As for the unguilded one voluntier would do theirs.


Theese are just a couple thoughts I had to help spread some of the work but still allow people to compete which is why we are all here :-)
GM Arkrim
GM, 5869 posts
Game Master
Fri 20 Nov 2015
at 04:44
  • msg #931

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Only way to fact check is to see character sheets, which would never work for someone competing.

You may instead require combatants to PM character sheets to the REFEREE in the INITIATIVE POST and referee can copy and paste them somewhere to make sure they weren't tampered with during the match.

That and full GMship are the only possible ways to avoid bias (and even then, it's not really avoiding it as much as reducing it to acceptably low levels).
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 264 posts
Expert
Fri 20 Nov 2015
at 21:29
  • msg #932

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Actually, the PM of sheet to the ref would make sense, even without copy-paste.  If you edit the initiative post, you forfeit and take a 5% bp penalty.  This is also practical because what's on a character sheet under details doesn't matter with free rebuilds of everything but gladiator type - only the sheet that's in the initiative post matters.


That actually gives me an idea - Arkrim could open 5 new threads: A BP thread, and 4 arenas.  The BP thread only gets bp changes from matches, posted by the ref of the match.  The ref would also post in the challenge thread telling each group what arena thread to use.  The ref would be the first post (setting it up) and last post (letting everyone know that it's over and someone else can use the arena) in each fight.

That way, Arkrim only has to make bp mods as able, and just from that one thread with all the information put there for him already.  He'd only ever need to open or close threads when one of the arenas hits the max post count (or nears it).
This message was last edited by the player at 21:31, Fri 20 Nov 2015.
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 1,074 BP, 381 posts
Expert
Fri 20 Nov 2015
at 23:08
  • msg #933

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I agree with you a side thread with everyones BP so referees or a designated person could keep it up.

I do not like just having a couple threads with all the battles it makes it hard to find info that is in one.
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 265 posts
Expert
Fri 20 Nov 2015
at 23:36
  • msg #934

DEMO MATCH:  Ario vs his shadow

Good call... instead of thread titles for matches, we could have the ref change the subject each time a new match starts, to keep things searchable.  That way instead of going through pages of threads, you could just open the 4 match threads, tell it to display all posts, and use ctrl-f.

If we don't do a bypass on opening and closing threads, it doesn't save Arkrim much of anything.  :-\
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 1,074 BP, 382 posts
Expert
Sat 21 Nov 2015
at 01:16
  • msg #935

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Is the only person able to open or close threads GMs or are you able to give that permission without the ability to see charracter sheets? (I've never ran a game know nothing about the permission options available)
GM Arkrim
GM, 5871 posts
Game Master
Thu 26 Nov 2015
at 19:20
  • msg #936

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!


This message was last edited by the GM at 19:21, Thu 26 Nov 2015.
Tinny Tina
Expert 869 BP, 294 posts
Expert
Thu 26 Nov 2015
at 19:23
  • msg #937

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 936):

you're over a month late tho
GM Arkrim
GM, 5872 posts
Game Master
Thu 26 Nov 2015
at 19:25
  • msg #938

Re: OOC Discussion 5

No, today is Thanksgiving in the United States.
Tinny Tina
Expert 869 BP, 295 posts
Expert
Thu 26 Nov 2015
at 19:36
  • msg #939

Re: OOC Discussion 5

you 'muricans with your wacky holiday dates
Tinny Tina
Expert 869 BP, 296 posts
Expert
Thu 26 Nov 2015
at 19:43
  • msg #940

Re: OOC Discussion 5

holidates
Josep Gavinho
Adept 1,024 BP, 749 posts
Adept
TA
Thu 26 Nov 2015
at 22:40
  • msg #941

Re: OOC Discussion 5

We don't celebrate thanksgiving over here, but I roasted a Turgooducken for my birthday last Saturday, and it was delicious. Still working on the leftovers, though...
GM Arkrim
GM, 5874 posts
Game Master
Thu 26 Nov 2015
at 23:40
  • msg #942

Re: OOC Discussion 5

'Murica.
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 462 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Fri 27 Nov 2015
at 05:29
  • msg #943

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Hey, Brakt and I are about to beat each others face's in and per Arkrim's post on the previous page of the OOC, we need a third party ref to watch over us as we destroy one another. Any volunteers?
Brakt
Warrior 844 BP, 309 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 30 Nov 2015
at 02:19
  • msg #944

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Anyone? :)
Tinny Tina
Expert 869 BP, 297 posts
Expert
Mon 30 Nov 2015
at 02:36
  • msg #945

Re: OOC Discussion 5

w/e ill do it
Brakt
Warrior 844 BP, 311 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 30 Nov 2015
at 02:55
  • msg #946

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thanks Tina :)

We're in the same guild though, I don't know if that's a problem or not :(
Tinny Tina
Expert 869 BP, 298 posts
Expert
Mon 30 Nov 2015
at 02:57
  • msg #947

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Oh right, whoops. You're not allowed to referee for guildmates.
Lekol
Warrior 613 BP, 322 posts
Warrior
Mon 30 Nov 2015
at 03:37
  • msg #948

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Been inactive for the holiday, I'll referee you guys if you like, I have no guild allegiance yet.
Brakt
Warrior 844 BP, 313 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 30 Nov 2015
at 04:00
  • msg #949

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Thanks Lekol :)

Challenge posted.  I don't know if you need to accept it or not :(
Brakt
Warrior 844 BP, 315 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Wed 2 Dec 2015
at 05:50
  • msg #950

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ugrim, that challenge has been up 48 hours :(

Just repost when you're ready and I'll accept.
Lekol
Warrior 613 BP, 324 posts
Warrior
Wed 2 Dec 2015
at 06:45
  • msg #951

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Where has everyone gone? It has been sooooo quite I guess we did have a holiday with more to come shortly but looks like this arena is slowing to an inevitable halt.  Lets get some matches going breath a little life in to this place.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5875 posts
Game Master
Wed 2 Dec 2015
at 20:17
  • msg #952

Re: OOC Discussion 5

In reply to Lekol (msg # 951):

Holiday lulls are normal. Happens every year. Should pick back up in january.
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 463 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Wed 2 Dec 2015
at 22:56
  • msg #953

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Brakt:
Ugrim, that challenge has been up 48 hours :(

Just repost when you're ready and I'll accept.

sorry dude, i started working the graveyard shift at an Amazon fulfilment center so its work/sleep/repeat for me sunday-thursday. i'll go ahead and repost it though.
Brakt
Warrior 844 BP, 317 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Wed 2 Dec 2015
at 23:04
  • msg #954

Re: OOC Discussion 5

New jobs are exciting :)

Don't stress, once we're in I won't call 48 hours on you.
Ugrim
Warrior 872 BP, 465 posts
Warrior
Shadow's Caress
Wed 2 Dec 2015
at 23:15
  • msg #955

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Lol, well working from 6:30 pm to 5:00 a.m. sure takes it toll. :P
Hiro
Warrior 1,721 BP, 1001 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Thu 3 Dec 2015
at 16:16
  • msg #956

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ugrim:
Brakt:
Ugrim, that challenge has been up 48 hours :(

Just repost when you're ready and I'll accept.

sorry dude, i started working the graveyard shift at an Amazon fulfilment center so its work/sleep/repeat for me sunday-thursday. i'll go ahead and repost it though.


I order from Amazon pretty much constantly... that means there's a small (but non-zero!) probability you're gonna ship me something! Neat!
Wehawk Deblue
Warrior 175 BP, 1 post
Tiefling
Fighter
Sun 6 Dec 2015
at 06:10
  • msg #957

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Hello, I will be joining up shortly, I just want to get this character sheet as right as I can before posting it.
Brakt
Warrior 844 BP, 320 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Sun 6 Dec 2015
at 23:33
  • msg #958

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Welcome to the Arena!
Wehawk Deblue
Warrior 175 BP, 2 posts
Tiefling
Fighter
Sun 6 Dec 2015
at 23:51
  • msg #959

Re: OOC Discussion 5

 Maybe you can answer some questions for me that will help me in some decision-making.

 1. Do they count taking a prestige class as "multi-classing". Probably, I just want to be sure.

 2. It says in Character creation in the Equipment section that we cannot customize items unless we can craft it. Does this mean I would be unable to have any items that are magical or made of a special material or even masterworked because I'd lack the ability to make it myself?
This message was last edited by the player at 23:54, Sun 06 Dec 2015.
Brakt
Warrior 844 BP, 321 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Sun 6 Dec 2015
at 23:56
  • msg #960

Re: OOC Discussion 5

1.) Yup, Prestige Class is multi-classing, you got it.

2.) Customizing an item is using the crafting rules to create a custom magical item.  Having a weapon or armor crafted from a different material or applying magical enhancements isn't any issue at all.
Wehawk Deblue
Warrior 175 BP, 3 posts
Tiefling
Fighter
Mon 7 Dec 2015
at 00:44
  • msg #961

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ok good, pure fighter all the way and having neat Items made for me works fine by me.
Brakt
Warrior 844 BP, 322 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Mon 7 Dec 2015
at 00:49
  • msg #962

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Nothing wrong with being a pure fighter :D
Wehawk Deblue
Warrior 175 BP, 4 posts
Tiefling
Fighter
Mon 7 Dec 2015
at 16:41
  • msg #963

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Ok do I have to use all of my BP (or lose it) or can I save some of it for later?
Lekol
Warrior 613 BP, 326 posts
Warrior
Mon 7 Dec 2015
at 16:56
  • msg #964

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Its a running total so whatever you don't use just sits there, you only loose it if you spend it on questions, changing charracter type, trying to get things unbanned, ...
Ario
Expert 848 BP, 267 posts
Expert
Tue 8 Dec 2015
at 17:28
  • msg #965

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Could Maelstrom and I have our round closed out?
GM Arkrim
GM, 5880 posts
Game Master
Thu 10 Dec 2015
at 02:27
  • msg #966

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Only if I get to call you Oreo.

Oh yeah, also: I'm BaaAAAaaaaAAACK!

The super stressful part of my work is over. Now to spend the next couple of months preparing for the kickstarter and I can hold off the biggest stresses until March.
Brakt
Warrior 844 BP, 326 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Thu 10 Dec 2015
at 02:33
  • msg #967

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Welcome back boss! :D
Brakt
Warrior 844 BP, 328 posts
Warrior
SotVD
Thu 10 Dec 2015
at 22:45
  • msg #968

Re: OOC Discussion 5

C-C-C-C-CRITICAL HIIIIIITTTTTTT!

That's a new record for most damage done in one round when you ignore DR, yeah? :)
Ario
Expert 928 BP, 268 posts
Expert
Oreo
Thu 10 Dec 2015
at 22:53
  • msg #969

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Welcome back, Arkrim.  Down with democracy!  Up with Oreos!
Grunyar Fangblood
Expert 1,074 BP, 383 posts
Expert
Fri 11 Dec 2015
at 03:44
  • msg #970

Re: OOC Discussion 5

WELCOME BACK ARKRIM!!!!!!!!
Lekol
Warrior 613 BP, 327 posts
Warrior
Fri 11 Dec 2015
at 05:45
  • msg #971

Re: OOC Discussion 5

Welcome back Arkrim

I'm gonna bug you again, can you do the remove my character and I send new RTJ thing so I can get my RTJ PM back.  I'd like to PM you about changing my name to one that fits a Barbarian better.
GM Arkrim
GM, 5881 posts
Game Master
Fri 11 Dec 2015
at 05:55
  • msg #972

Re: OOC Discussion 5

I'm not going to remove your characters. I'm going to take them for my own. Send me a new RTJ and I'll give them back. That should be easier than the other things we tried. Fingers crossed.
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