You mean a 1st-level fighter.  I've let new players come in with the same XP as those who left, because that only seems fair.  But if your character dies and you make a new one, the newcomer shows up fresh at level 1.  Losing a character who has made it past level 1 or 2 should not be a trivial matter.



Near as I can tell, parrying lasts for the current round, and that's all.  As for charging, I don't see a penalty associated with that, apart from the AC penalty against the "opportunity attack" the opponent gets if wielding a longer weapon.



I need a page number because I completely missed this.



It looked to be a single cave with around 2 dozen adult inhabitants.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:21, Sun 02 Jan 2022.

So is Munwin really most sincerely dead at this point, or is there any hope of reviving him?

If the party wants to go back up for him, he could, in theory, be saved.  In practice, given the injuries sustained so far, I don't think that's likely to happen.

Is there any cover where we're at at the bottom of the cliff?
Do the cave people look like they're planning to follow us?
Could Walker now have some decent target practice on those gathered at the cave mouth?

We don't know which round Munwin will bleed out, but if Walker could pincushion a bunch of them without them coming down to give chase, then perhaps we could drive them back long enough to get Munwin down... I'm assuming as well that Walker would get some sort of bonus to attack if they're climbing down?

Honestly though, I think we may have dodged a bullet on a TPK if they don't follow or toss rocks down at us, though I feel badly for saving Silk and leaving Munwin behind!

DM, Page 14 for the fighter multiple attack rule. Or 26 if you're using the top left PDF page finder.

I ... don't know why I thought charging generated a -2 AC penalty.

Why was a d6 rolled for Ati's save vs. breath weapons?


Granted. How about the new character retaining 1/2 exp to account for play by post? That's more then a moderate penalty in my opinion.

Munwin, we can't save you but we can avenge you. You can avenge you!

Walker, I've been thinking you're the perfect guy to come up with a murder plan, something with fire and smoke. I have this delightful image of cavemen leaping to their death. Happily, invisibility can figure prominently in this plan.


This message was last edited by the player at 03:32, Sun 02 Jan 2022.

Well, once the party returns to base, presumably you can pick up one of Munwin's kin who can join you to avenge him.

Probably because I wasn't paying sufficient attention.  New roll is posted using the correct d20.



I'll consider it and get back to you.  Soon, given that it's likely to be important in short order.

In reply to Tybalt 'Walker' Aldiron (msg # 883):

If it's any consolation, Sil'qian is happy that you saved his ass! Or he will be if he regains consciousness.

This whole thing could have gone much better for the party if we did not try to parley and if the Sleep spell went off.

Lesson learned: kill everything encountered!

Given their numbers, Sleep would have been of minimal help.

That's a hoot. How very Canadian. But really elves should know about the evil humanoids of the world -- especially the ones who have shunned all society to practice their barbaric dwarf-eating rituals.

Munwin, barring another crisis, we should be back in town in short order. May as well roll them dice.

Okay… so I fell off the cliff and survived, but have taken thirteen damage.  (This leaves me with 1 point left.)  Presumably, this leaves me well out of reach of any combatants.

Do I have it right, or am I missing something?

By the end of the century, assuming we still haven’t blown the world up, technology is going to be INSANE.  I think these issues will be completely irrelevant by then.

In reply to Ati (msg # 890):

Ya have it right. We can hoof it back.


Some issues, for sure. But I don't think sentient AI worker bots will ever be contributing their share of wages to social security.

In reply to Lenny (msg # 889):

Does the DM want me to go ahead and create a new character?  Is it acceptable for it to be another dwarven cleric?

Let's see what the DM says about the situation from below the cave in the questions I asked above. Walker still wants to figure out a way to save Munwin!

Some trees and rocks.  Not a huge amount.



Yes.  They seem quite furious, and taking down two of you clearly has them emboldened.



You could manage a round of attacks, maybe two, depending on whether they jump down or climb.

Clearly, Lenny has some wishful thinking in his last post. He'll either get to use it now or later or never.

DM, could we have had Vale yank the rope free upon his landing? It would only have taken a quick jerk of his hand. It was on my mind but I neglected to ask about it.

DM, since none of the cavemen is engaged, wouldn't they all just take the rope -- if it's still there for them to take? I can't imagine why anyone one of them would have to leap unless they're mad with rage at their three dead brothers.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:57, Mon 03 Jan 2022.

Mm, I don't see why not.



Well, if you want to chase ofter someone but you're being peppered with arrows, expedience might be preferable.

Gotcha. I think we have a plan for the next round:

Walker and Vale move away and fire at the pursuing cavemen. If the men take the leap, I do believe that would draw bonus attacks at +4 from Walker and Vale as OSRIC makes no distinction between melee/ranged for that rule.

Ati and Lenny move behind Walker and Vale, moving Sil further to a safe spot.

Maybe there is still some room for some daring do.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:01, Mon 03 Jan 2022.

You are mistaken: "If a character is in melee combat and runs away..." (p.121)

Sigh, yes, Munwin's not in a very threatening position, is he?

I can see how the Neanderthals would leap one after another to chase their prey. It's the crazy, macho thing to do and anything less might shame them in the eyes of the clan.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:11, Mon 03 Jan 2022.

I'm starting to think that Sil'qian is a jinx...this is the second time he has survived at the cost of another PC.

But, this is 1E and death at low levels is to be expected.

RIP Hrothgar

OSRIC seems kind of quiet on the subject of non-magical fire damage. From the 1st edition AD&D DMG: "Walking through or standing in flaming oil will cause the creature to take 1-6 hps of damage per melee round. Garments of cloth must save versus FIRE, NORMAL on the ITEM SAVING THROW MATRIX."

BASIC allowed for 1-8 dmg for the same.

It's certainly quiet on smoke inhalation. Might the timber light up? It's been a dry season.

Anybody else who can should toss a flask of oil against the cliff. Lenny did not have the foresight to pack any.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:02, Tue 04 Jan 2022.

Death happens.  Don’t beat yourself up about it.

Okay, so I've given it some thought and this seems fair.  New characters will come in with half the XP of those they're replacing.