Very cunningly the Elf became a councillor in his own right supporting his own cause, voila 8.  :o)

That makes sense :-)

Welcome all Newbies

OOC - hhmm DM miscouonted  dang I hate when that happens.  :)

Just wanted to make sure that everyone knows the story I relayed about my conception/birth is second hand.....

Given there was nothing else to go on at the time, I thought it might be an interesting role play conversation to be had in regards to Solomon's origin.  It wasn't/isn't an important detail, but surely he would have wondered himself when he had siblings without wings.  The details don't matter, we're off now anyway.

Oh we can get there, SS knows that story is untrue

I am trying not to post too swiftly in ye olde game thread......

Personally I have no issue with posting speed things can always be back posted if required.  I think we are just waiting on the contents of the note from DM at this stage, so I see anything that is posted as fill in to keep us all entertained.

I added the description of the map to my scratchpad.   I often use it for stuff that is important, but not necessary to put on my character sheet.

There are lots of things we can prep that will get us ahead in the long run.

A lot of my character comes out of the ranger handbook, the half elves guide, things like that.

I do not know if either of you have explored the Cantrips in the ring or not, several of them can be useful.

I have always used wrap to make homemade flour bombs, (also good for making white gravy) for invisible stuff, get them powdered like an evil donut and then fairies fire them for long term viewing.....

Flour dust is explosive in a confined space as well, though its use to uncover invisible creatures is a great idea.  I've got the details of the wrap cantrip from Unearthed Arcana, do you know if it is different in 2nd ed?

There's no specifics for the length of time the item is wrapped, and the cantrip does say the item can be opened by command.

That leaves me to believe a 1 pound bag of flour could be thrown into a room, and whilst it is in the air the command to open could be given by the caster, causing the contents fall down in a cloud.  Someone else can then throw in some fire and kaBOOM!!  Flourbomb, or instantanteous fire cloud.

If that's how it's gonna work, there's no reason why we shouldn't stock up on a few more than a few.  I'd imagine damage might be in the same range as a flask of oil 1-6hp, and flour should be a lot cheaper.

In reply to 'Lenota of the Light (msg # 566):

Duration is mentioned in the Cantrip spell. Flour bombs are great, I've used them for 30yrs on and off. Cantrip wraps the stuff, then it's done, you'd need something to wrap the flour in or when the cantrip spell ends (1hr/level I think), then the flour may fall apart.

I'm not the GM, but the spell is quite clear as a final, less so as an explanation.
Cast Cantrip and do your housework by using snip, tie, clean, stack, push, pull as much as needed within the duration, it's why the individual Cantrips only gave description.

Thanks for the feedback Yardly

So is there an unwrap cantrip, or can wrap be reversed?  I've never played in a game with cantrips (and I'm not playing a spellcaster in this game) so I know nothing about them, just asking for a friend.  :o). If so, unwrap seems better than wrap.  The 'flour bomb' could be manually wrapped by the caster, and unwrap voiced as the bomb is thrown, with another throwing in the fire.  Its a better option really as there would be no time constraint on unwrap.

There is a Tie/Untie, so I see no reason for the to not be a Wrap/Unwrap Cantrip, after all, you'd need material to do the wrapping and then something to tie it with to stop it opening again, so the Tie/Untie would be appropriate here.

There is a Non-Weapon Proficiency that Spellcasters can learn, which allowed 4+1/level Cantrips (individual ones) and at 4th level (I'd assume since getting it), you have Unlimited Cantrips. I use this in all 2nd Ed campaigns I run/ran.

Yeah as you say tie/untie would be better suited, but now I think there probably also needs to be another cantrip to puff the flour out into a cloud.  I suppose there's probably a gust cantrip isn't there?  (Too lazy to look right now)  It's starting to sound a little less workable in my minds eye.  Now we really need 2 casters and someone to throw the flame.  I can't see the Paladin doing that, so we're also going to need a 4th party member. lol

Flour bombs often get quickly replaced....
eggshell grenades

Eventually at low/mid level it gets replaced with Glitterdust......

In reply to Solomon Silverstream (msg # 571):

Throwing a bag that is untied would have the contents 'fluffing out'. Wouldn't be far away anyway, throw at the ceiling and watch the flour cover the whole room lol

Yes the ceiling is the best place to throw them!!


Also makes it super easy to get a sandwich to go.

Flour bombs - interesting.  Well as some in other groups have learned.  Do your action an the DM makes the call.  Flour boms ...  lol

On another note, obviously you all probably post quicker then the DM can but keep up the chatter in all groups its great.

We will try to keep up the chatter...

 for  the  sudden problems here. Skald  has put this up in the  forums...

We monitor everything using techniques patented by Santa himself !  And I'm glad someone can make sense of the traceroute - I just know that timeouts are bad.   :>

All I can tell you is that we've sent the details of the problem on to jase and we're waiting for him to check, advise, contact the hosting service etc etc.  When there's more news either he or we will let you know OR it'll have all been fixed up first, and 502/504 will just be a bad memory to scare first level PCs with ("you call that a Slow spell ?!!).

Almost a week, and still not fixed. :-(

Seems to be less frequent on my end.

looks  like everything is better  now, Jase  made a comment on what the problem was... we can get back to it now!

Thanks, I noticed this morning it was working again.

OOC - Sorry All I've been away helping look for homes and have used all my computer time researching homes instead of posting but I will try to get you all updated posts -vhang in there I will be hime mid week to get activer again.

Flour bombs, hhmm