Okay, change of plans.

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!!GUILD MASTERS!!!

Please discuss the next championship among your guild members.

Each guild will need to select ONE arena veteran among its members to compete in the championship (no hero point cost). The guild master may choose themselves to compete (this includes Latro and Josep as options).

In addition, freelancers will be offered the opportunity to join (first come first serve).

However, we need a freelancer veteran to volunteer to referee this match so we need two freelancers to step forward.

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Please post your selection here when you are ready. You have until 01/01/2018 to make your selection or we will open the slots to more freelancers to take your guild's spot.

First two freelancers to post here get to compete or be referee (1st one to post chooses).
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:14, Thu 21 Dec 2017.

Latro nominates himself to represent Shadow's Caress.

I Boadicea volunteer as Freelance Referee

Josep will represent the Thaumaturgical Alliance, and retake what was his.

Just to be clear, no one is wearing the belt, correct ?
Do we know the arena, conditions, etc?

To answer your question in the most ego-shattering way possible...



/stokes the flame for Josep's vengeful rage because I want to see the arena get torn apart by angry wizard

LOL, just messing with you, Josep. Yes, no belt this time. Go buy yourself some Vast Intellect.

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Map will be lowest BP participant's choice.

No special conditions unless somebody wants to negotiate them while we wait for the SCHOOL OF THE VOICELESS DRAGON and another FREELANCER.

I personally vote no extras and no conditions.
Bring your very best and destroy everyone with it or be destroyed in the process.

Works for me !

@SCHOOL OF THE VOICELESS DRAGON
If Hiro does not respond in the next 48 hours, feel free to volunteer on his behalf. If none of you respond we'll have to find more freelancers.

@VETERAN FREELANCERS
Anybody home?
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:12, Sat 23 Dec 2017.

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 8):

So you guys need a freelancer? I don't mind the no conditions so long as we get 1 prep round. Mind waiting until the extra bp kicks in? That will at least give me a fighting chance lol.

In the absence of Hiro, I will put my name forward for the championship.

Done.

Championship battle royal
Referee: Boadicea
Combatants: Josep, Latro, Haran, Brakt

Map: Haran's call.

Extras: 1 prep round.

Awaiting Haran's decision of map and/or someone to veto the prep round.

I think I'm ok with 1 prep round.

Time to re-format my character for the championship. :P

Prep round, really? Well... if I have to, is suppose there’s one or two things I could do in a prep round. Fine then.

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 13):

Will have my map selection up today.

I'm fine with 1 prep round.

Let's do this!

Map: Large Boxed in
Lighting: Standard Light
Terrain: Plains
Walls: Standard Masonry
Prep: 1 round
Extras: None

OOC: You all know what to do. Let the championship commence!

18:19, Today: Brakt rolled 24 using 1d20+10 with rolls of 14.  Championship 15 Init.

Brakt would like to start at A20:B19 assuming no one else has any issues with that and rolls higher

07:47, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 19 using 1d20+12 with rolls of 7.  Championship #15 Initiative.

Latro will begin at T1 or T3 if beginning on an elevated surface is not allowed

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 19):
This message was last edited by the player at 23:10, Fri 29 Dec 2017.

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 20):

I see nothing.
That is, I can't see the private message you supposedly sent to me
This message was last edited by the player at 22:58, Fri 29 Dec 2017.

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 21):

Fixed sorry about that forgot Dectus on PM
This message was last updated by the player at 23:34, Fri 29 Dec 2017.

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 22):

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 23):

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 24):

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 25):

17:46, Today: Haran Madar rolled 18 using 1d20+5 with rolls of 13.  Initiative, Championship.

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 26):


An issue with Latro's charracter sheet has arose a very large one in BP terms beings initiative has been rolled which means he has started in the match but no combat has occurred so no secrets have been revealed.

I ask the other participants should he be allowed to rework his sheet to remove and reuse the poorly allocated BP(option A) or (option B) he just removes the improperly used BP from his sheet and fights with what is left.
Brakt, Haran, Josep please drop a post on whichever you would like to have happen.  Either way Latro that will be strike 1 (Championship match is no place to try something out)

I guess I'll be the bad guy - option B


Also, I would like to start at A1 or A3 if allowed
This message was last edited by the player at 14:44, Sat 30 Dec 2017.

I’m not going to be the good guy here - option B it is.

Initiative is 36, and I’ll take the starting position in bottom right hand side.

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 30):

can you please post your dice roll in another post

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 31):
Sure, sorry.

Dice Roll:
00:33, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 36 using 1d20+24 with rolls of 12.  Battle for the Belt - Initiative .

I'm voting for Option A, only because it will hopefully give me a bit more time before the match starts.

That being said, Haran and Josep have already voted for B, so not sure if it makes a difference.

So Initiative order is Josep, Brakt, Latro Haran?

Latro please remove the template from your sheet and repost it

I will repost the map and initiative order once Latro has reposted sheet.  Also Latro pick a new starting location as Josep has chosen the same corner you did.

Question for Josep

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 34):

I think we all did choose different locations?

Josep - bottom right
Latro - top right
Brakt - bottom left
Haran - top left

In reply to Haran Madar (msg # 35):

you are correct, my bad I had read Latro's as bottom right as well thank you

Reposting the sheet.

Edit: Latro's initiative should be treated as 1 lower because of this abrupt change.

07:47, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 19 using 1d20+12 with rolls of 7.  Championship #15 Initiative.

Latro will begin at T1 or T3 if beginning on an elevated surface is not allowed


This message was last edited by the player at 15:58, Sun 31 Dec 2017.

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 34):

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 38):

I’ll need to repost my sheet, but I won’t be able to do that before tonight.

Also, Happy New Year!

Here we go.
I must say, I hate it when rules change and the only reference to the new rule is a conversation in OOC.
But then again, I should have read that I suppose.

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 41):

The class/race rule has changed a few times and yes it would be nice to have a definite black and white on rules page but the one thing that never changed was needing to notify GM just the way to do it has changed (PM to declare in challenge now back to PM)

Small corrections to my sheet because i can't math correctly

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 44):
 Sorry, are we all good to go?

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 45):

yeah probably shouldn't have wrote in the quote you are good to go

Reposting Sheet due to Race corrections and math.

Working on my turn now.
I hope everyone is happy with the maths on their sheet.
Sorry this is taking a bit longer than expected.

I’m now posting from a 4” phone in a crowed airport terminal, please bear with my typos and probably ill-formatted map.
I won’t edit but will post corrections if I spot them. Looks like my flight is severely delayed anyway, so battery allowing I might get to do a couple of previews before I hit send.

I may add some flavour text later, for now I’m struggling for time just to get my technical stuff in.




ROUND: Prep (Initiative: 36)
 POSITION: T20 (S19-T20 at end of prep round)
 ACTIONS:
- free: Prescience main round d20 Roll (9)
- move: draw Scroll of Time Stop
- standard: cast Time Stop from scroll (use Prescience Roll for Caster Level check, result 25 vs DC18)

Time Stop 1
- swift: cast Quickened See Invisibility
- move: draw scroll of SMIX
- standard: cast Greater Arcane Sight

Time Stop 2
- free: prescience roll: 18
- Full-round: cast Summon Monster IX ( 3 greater Air Elementals — use Prescience Roll for Caster Level check, result 34 vs DC18)

Time Stop 3
- move: draw rod
- Free: drop rod
- Standard: cast Elemental Body III (Earth)
- Swift: cast Quickened Mirror image

Time Stop 4
- Move: pick up rod
- Swift: cast Quickened Vanish (through Rod)
- Standard: cast XXX

End of normal time prep round.

 HP: 168/168 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 25; FFAC: 21; Touch: 14
CMD: 25; FFCMD: 19; FFTAC: 09

EFFECTS: - Greater Arcane Sight 4/140, See Invisibility 4/140, Summon Monster 3/14, Elemental Body 2/140, Mirror Image 2/140 (6 figments), Vanish 1/14, Walk Through Space 1/14
   GEAR: - Backpack, belt pouch, dagger, sling, component pouch, spellbook, Ioun Stone, Headband, Boots, Bracers, Cloak, Rod, Scroll x4, Hourglass 1h, Belt (ACP 0, Light Load)

   USES: - Prescience 2/11 ; Foretell 0/14 ; Spells: 7th 2/x, 6th 3/x, 5th 0/x, 4th 0/x, 3rd 0/x, 2nd 0/x, 1st 1/x ; Rod 1/3 ; Scrolls 2/4

DICE ROLLS:

   SUMMARY: Josep draws a scroll and casts Time Stop.
 His Time Stop Rounds are :
 Round 1: cast Quick See Invisibility, draw scroll of Summon Monster IX, cast Greater Arcane Sight
 Round 2: cast Summon Monster IX
 Round 3: draw and drop rod, cast Elemental Body, cast Quick Mirror Image
 Round 4: pick up rod, cast Quick Vanish, cast ???
 End of prep round normal time.

DICE ROLLS:
20:26, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 6 using 1d4+4 with rolls of 2.  Mirror Image.
19:52, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 3 using 1d4+1 with rolls of 2.  Summon Monster IX (greater Air Elementals).
19:50, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 18 using 1d20 with rolls of 18.  Prescience roll Time Stop 2.
11:17, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 4 using 1d4+1 with rolls of 3.  Time stop Rounds Count.
11:16, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 9 using 1d20 with rolls of 9.  Prep Round prescience Roll.

I forgot to add te characteristics for the Greater Air Elementals and for my Dodo Familiar.
All of them are standard as seen on d20pfsrd (not augmented, no templates)

I will add a stat blocks for them when I can, but feel free or carry on with your prep rounds in the meantime.

Standing on the stone cube in his corner of the arena, Josep perused his three opponents with a brooding look. Clearly he had not come to play and wanted the belt to be his again.

He owned up to his reputation of fastest caster in the arena, unrolling scrolls, summoning monsters, creating illusions, enhancing his senses and polymorphing, finally disappearing plain and simple, all in the blink of an eye and before the other gladiators had even unsheathed their weapons or uttered a single incantation.

 The newly installed screen had shown Elementals appearing, and Josep turning to a large stone creature before vanishing.

“Glad to have you back, Haran!” an earthy voice shouted across the arena.

Greater Air Elemental (x3)

 HP: 123/123 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 25; FFAC: 19; Touch: 14
CMD: 43; FFCMD: 33; FFTAC: 08

Positions:
e1 at O18-Q20, +2
e2 at O15-Q17, +3
e3 at R15-T17, +2

Do the Dodo
 HP: 77/77 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 18; FFAC: 18; Touch: 10
CMD: 7; FFCMD: 7; FFTAC: 10

Position : T18

I believe Brakt is up.
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 07:51, Fri 05 Jan 2018.

Brakt looked across the arena and shuddered.  He hadn't expected to be here. This was Hiro's place, not a gangly uncoordinated Ogre's.  He had studied the leaderboard before the match, and outside of Hiro, these were the top 3 fighters in the Arena.  And the Ogre who had only 1 point to his name.

Still. He was here, and he was going to make life hell for at least one of the competitors.  Taking a deep breath, he clicked his heels together, then jumped from the raised ground, and hit the ground running. He sidestepped the pedestal along the bottom wall of the arena. The elemental's hadn't even fully formed at this point, so could do nothing as Brakt slipped past and taking a deep breath, dived into the ground beneath Josep.  Taking a page from the Wizard's book, he pulled a rod out from his sheathe, closed his eyes and waited.


S19:T20



ROUND: Prep (Initiative: 24)
 POSITION: S19-T20+0
 ACTIONS: Activate Boots(Free),Double Move(Full Round), Martial Flexibility(Swift), Draw Rod(Free), Close Eyes(Free)

 HP: 196/196 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 21; FFAC: 15; Touch: 15
CMD: 28; FFCMD: 27; FFTAC: 09

EFFECTS: - Hold Breath 1/16, Boots 1/1
   GEAR: - Amulet, Belt, Hammer, Rod, Cloak, Robes, Armor, Boots, Free Gear(ACP 0, Light Load)

   USES: - Boots 1/10, Amulet 0/1

DICE ROLLS:

   SUMMARY: Brakt activates his boots and dives into the ground below Josep, closes his eyes and waits.

OOC: Sorry for the delay

Correction to previous post. AC and TAC is +1 dodge from effect

Brakt, are you inside the stone of the pedestal somehow?
Also how do you draw a rod as a free action? (I’m very interested for my next fight!)

I couldn't find any map information on the corners, if they were pedestals or simply raised ground, so I was treating it as soil for burrowing purposes.  If this is stone instead, well, that changes things slightly.

As for drawing the rod, I'm simply drawing it as a weapon thanks to Quick Draw.

Hmm, interesting point. I thought the map features (cross shaped walls and raised corners) were stone blocks or masonry. Maybe we need to clarify that.

I don’t think you can draw anything but an actual weapon with quick draw, or is that an arena special rule that I’ve missed somehow?

Quick draw specifies being unable to draw scrolls/wands/other magic items, but doesn't mention Rods.  As well, Rods does mention that many rods are able to be used as clubs/light maces.

In any case, I could use a rod as an improvised weapon, which would let me draw it as well.

As for masonry, I get the walls in the middle are masonry, but I wasn't sure about the corners.  Happy to take a foul if I'm wrong, and change my movement/get stuck in Q19:R20 if needed.

A note on the air elementals and conjuration effects:



I get that they fly so e1 and e3 might be ok where they are, i'll leave it to the ref to decide that one, but e2 was noted as being called into being at +3 hight, which is floating in an empty space, which is not allowed for summoning a creature into being.

I'll be making my turn while all these various things get sorted out so i'll be waiting for boadicea to give her rulings before making a post of my own.

In reply to Brakt (msg # 59):
 I don’t think you need a foul for that, it was an honest assumption.
 Let’s wait and see what Boa thinks about the construction of the arena corner.
 I’m fine with your reading of Quick Draw and rods, if I can then use it myself ;)

In reply to Latro (msg # 60):
  My understanding of the rule on conjuring creatures “floating in an empty space” is that you can’t summon something so that it then falls. Air Elementals with their perfect manoeuvrability can be supported by thin air, they’re not floating. Would you argue that you cannot summon an orca in water, because it needs to be supported on a flat surface?
This message was last edited by the player at 10:51, Fri 05 Jan 2018.

While we're waiting for Boa's rulings, did Latro and Haran want to go ahead with Prep if their on? These rulings won't have any difference to prep at the very least.

...and if they did, I would have no problem with a revision of your prep rounds.

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 56):

Corner pedestals (any + area not specified as being dirt) are made of stone as are the walls



I am not on board with Brakt's rational completely, but he is right on using quick draw for a rod is legal, I subscribe to the idea that if it was meant to not be drawn with the feat it would be in the list of items not able to be drawn which is a very specific list because not all rods are maces.

 

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 64):
 Brakt, I suppose that means you’re standing in Q19-R20 then?
 Or did you want to burrow somewhere else?

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 60):

just a reminder that the +X of a location means that standing upon it puts you at +(X+1). I was just marking your starting locations but guess I can fault myself for not marking you all at +3.

Josep's Elemental 2 is legal it's made of air... (if you disagree at +3 the wall could support it even if it was not able to fly it could balance there), as for the other two going to have to say thier locations are not valid as they both have a block of wall in the area they are summoned in and are not brought into existence.


(Just how I feel on the rule
I agree that when summoned the creature must be on a "solid" surface and handled creature by creature air elemental in my opinion would be legal in mid air (only because it is made of air not because of it's fly manuever ability), aquatic creature in the water, ...  The RAI in my opinion is they don't want you summoning things so they fall on people's head (unless it is a spell meant to do such a thing) or putting a creature in risk of taking damage just my 2 cents. )

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 65):

yes he is in Q19:R20

After thumping his head on your pedestal trying to burrow into it (funny image) dumb Ogre.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:37, Fri 05 Jan 2018.

I may have missed something in your reasoning for the elementals, why are e1 and e3 illegally positioned ?
They’re both at +2 ie 10ft in the air, so they shouldn’t share their space with the wall.
My understanding is that the +X we note as our position is the bottom of our feet, isn’t that the case?

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 68):

quote:

Wall or Raised floor
+---+
|+# |  # squares high
+---+

You are right I was way over thinking it and confused myself I was treating the wall the same as the creature.

Wall can be +10 but creature can only fly to +9 (edited forgot about the cube being centered on +0)

So disregard that all 3 are legal in my opinion.

This message was last edited by the player at 01:31, Sun 07 Jan 2018.

Latro needed defences, and quickly. Summoning three daggers of force into existence, the magical weapons float around him.
He steps off the platform, floating daintily to the ground before finding cover and disappearing into the maze-like structure of the arena.


1st Josep (36)
2nd Brakt (24)
3rd Latro (18)(+11)
4th Haran (18)(+5)


   ROUND: Prep 1 (Initiative: 22)
POSITION: T1+2 to ???
 ACTIONS: Cast Hedging Weapons (Standard), Move to ??? and draw potion  (Move + free), Use SLA Feather Fall (Immediate)

 HP: 120/120 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 27; FFAC: 22; Touch: 18
CMD: 35; FFCMD: 30; FFTAC: 13

EFFECTS:
Aura of Evil
Aura of Despair (Out to 10 feet: -2 to all saving throws. Does not stack with saving throw reduction of Aura of Cowardice)
Aura of Cowardice (Out to 10 feet: Lose immunity to fear effects or -4 to saving throw vs fear effects if not immune)
DC 24 Will save to negate each aura, starting with Aura of Despair
Hedging Weapons (1/110)

   GEAR: Backpack, Belt, Belt Pouch, Cloak, Shirt, O-Yori with no gauntlets, Dagger, Headband, Ioun Stone, Falcata, MW Tool , Unholy Symbol Tatoo, Sling, Spell Component Pouch, Potions x3  (ACP -3, Load: Medium)
   USES: Touch of Corruption 0/14, Smite Good 0/2, Fiendish Boon 0/2, spells lvl 1(anti) 1/4, spells lvl 2(anti) 0/4, spells lvl 3(anti) 0/3, Drow Noble Spells 0/3,


DICE ROLLS:
14:08, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 18 using 1d20-2 with rolls of 20.  Stealth.

   SUMMARY: Latro goes defensive.

OOC: What a wonderful use of a natural 20. :D

“Josep, my old ‘friend.’ ” Haran grinned at the soon-to-be-dead wizard. “How are you today?”

“Why didn’t he say ‘Hi’ to me Haran?” “Shut up.”

Haran surveyed the field and began to weave a spell. His only defeat occurred at the hands of Josep and one of his cronies. What was her name again? Aahh, that’s right Vile Ann… Josep was the biggest threat. That said, Haran didn’t care for the Orgre or that pretender Dectus.

“What to do? What to do?”

“I know.” Haran slammed his hands together, finishing the spell. A blackness spread over his corner of the arena. The darkness was beyond that of even deeper darkness, even darkvision was obscured. “Darkness will consume you all.”




ROUND: Prep Round (18)
POSITION: A1+2 to ???
     ACTIONS: Cast spell 1 (Standard),

HP: 130/130 (0 nonlethal)
AC: 19; FFAC: 14; Touch: 15
CMD: 23; FFCMD 18; FFTAC: 10

EFFECTS: - 1/13 Spell 1, 1/130 Spell 2, 1/13 Spell 3
GEAR: - Headband, belt, rod, shirt, cloak, slippers, potion, potion, elixir, elixir, scroll, scroll, scroll, statue (mini), statue (mini), backpack, belt pouch, dagger, sling, component pouch, spellbook

USES: - 0/? spell lvl 1, 0/? spell lvl 2, 1/? spell lvl 3, 0/? spell lvl 4, 0/? spell lvl 5, 2/? spell lvl 6. .

Minions: Position ?? To ?? , HP 13/13, [AC 14, FFAC 14, TAC 14, CMD 15, FFCMD 13, FFTAC 10, Fort +5, Refl +5, Will +1]

Actions:
Effects: -
DICE ROLLS: - 19:50, Today: Haran Madar rolled 34 using 1d20+18 with rolls of 16.  Stealth, championship .

SUMMARY: - Haran Casts a spell and then some more. Haran Stealths. DC 34 +distance and other modifiers to see Haran.


OOC: Good luck all!

Haran, even if we don’t see you, you should let us know what actions you took (free, swift, move, etc.)
Could you clarify that before I take my turn? It’s unlikley to concern you anyway, I have a big ogre on my doorstep.

Round : 1 (Initiative: 36)
 POSITION: S19-T20
 ACTIONS:
- free: Prescience round 1 d20 Roll (16)
- free: Perception check
(Rest of the round to follow)

DICE ROLLS:
11:00, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 32 using 1d20+14 with rolls of 18.  Dodo Perception Check.
11:00, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 32 using 1d20+16 with rolls of 16.  Free Perception Check.
10:59, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 16 using 1d20 with rolls of 16.  Round1 Prescience Roll.

Latro, I’d like to pinpoint your location.
Haran, I wish I could say the same but I don’t think the circumstantial modifiers play in my favour here..:
Boa, do the dodo and elementals also get a free perception check?

Both Josep and the Dodo pinpoint Latro at

Just a question to Haran, did you account in your stealth roll the fact that you're taking a -20 to your roll due to spell casting and talking and the like?

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 73):


Latro's location in private.
Watch your wording

quote:

Intentionally searching for stimulus is a move action.

I would say yes minions get the free at the beginning of the turn except animal companions in the process of performing a trick.

I know it's hard not to meta game but if you do not speak summons language info may not be relayed to you easily.

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 75):
Air Elemental Free Perception Checks:
Josep Gavinho rolled 20,36,17 using D20+16,d20+16,d20+16 with rolls of 4,20,1.  e1, e2, e3 free perception check if allowed .

Does the natural 20 pinpoint Haran ?
(I promise I won’t metagame with this information, but I may have a chat with the Elementals !)

@Latro: I believe the -20 for casting and +20 for being virtually invisible cancel each other out, don’t they?

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 76):

Technically speaking, nothing gives you that +20 to stealth for being virtually invisible except for invisibility itself (which is the standard +20, +40 if completely immobile and no sound is made.). So unless Haran cast some quickened invisibility, which is completely possible, that bonus to stealth should be right round mine currently.

That is a good point. Boa?

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 78):

one second, stealth isn't only issue looking at something else give me a moment please

No worries !

While you’re there, could you also check whether Haran actually cast 3 spells in one round?
His effects like suggests that, which has me very intrigued/interested.

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 78):
Haran Location DC is 14 + distance
No issue should effect your turn you can continue

disregard the stealth was only issue and I learned something new, lol

  The Air Elementals do what they do best: unleash a flurry of windy slams on an unsuspecting target... the ogre is badly beaten but still standing.

 Josep turns his attention to the others... but they’re either too coward or too smart to face him.

 He instead  focused on the ogre at the foot of his pedestal... and releases a quick succession of rays and missiles, all striking true and ruining the ogre for good.


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ROUND: 1 (Initiative: 36)
 POSITION: S19-T20+2 to S19-T20,-1
 ACTIONS:
- free: perception check
- free: Prescience round d20 Roll (16)
- Swift: cast Quickened Admonishing Ray at Brakt (47 damage)
- Standard: cast Magic Missile at Brakt, use prescience roll (19 damage)
- move: earth glide vertically to S19-T20,-1

 HP: 168/168 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 25; FFAC: 21; Touch: 14
CMD: 25; FFCMD: 19; FFTAC: 09

EFFECTS: - Greater Arcane Sight 5/140, See Invisibility 5/140, Summon Monster 4/14, Elemental Body 3/140, Mirror Image 3/140 (6 figments), XXX 2/14, total cover
   GEAR: - Backpack, belt pouch, dagger, sling, component pouch, spellbook, Ioun Stone, Headband, Boots, Bracers, Cloak, Rod, Scroll x4, Hourglass 1h, Belt (ACP 0, Light Load)

MINIONS:
Greater Air Elemental (x3)

 HP: 123/123 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 25; FFAC: 19; Touch: 14
CMD: 43; FFCMD: 33; FFTAC: 08

Positions:
e1 at O18-Q20, +2 to same +3
e2 at O15-Q17, +3 to same +4
e3 at R15-T17, +2 to same +3

Actions (all):
Free - perception
Full-Round - full attack Brakt
Free - 5ft step upward

Do the Dodo
 HP: 77/77 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 18; FFAC: 18; Touch: 10
CMD: 7; FFCMD: 7; FFTAC: 10

Position : T18
Actions : none

   USES: - Prescience 3/11 ; Foretell 0/14 ; Spells: 7th 2/x, 6th 4/x, 5th 0/x, 4th 0/x, 3rd 0/x, 2nd 0/x, 1st 2/x ; Rod 1/3 ; Scrolls 2/4

DICE ROLLS:
16:10, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 19 using 5d4+5 with rolls of 4,2,2,3,3.  Magic Missile damage vs Brakt.
16:05, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 16,11,20 using 4d6,4d6,4d6 with rolls of 4,1,5,6,3,1,4,3,2,6,6,6.  QAR damage.
16:05, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 24,20,21 using D20+13,d20+13,d20+13 with rolls of 11,7,8.  Quick Admonishing Ray vs Brakt.
14:50, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 24,26 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 7,6,5.  Attack e3 vs Brakt (power attack).
14:50, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 23,17 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 6,1,1.  Attack e3 vs Brakt (power attack).
14:49, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 28,30 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 11,7,8.  Attack e2 vs Brakt (power attack).
14:49, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 27,26 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 10,7,4.  Attack e2 vs Brakt (power attack).
14:49, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 21,20 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 4,1,4.  Attack e1 vs Brakt (power attack).
14:48, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 19,27 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 2,4,8.  Attack e1 vs Brakt (power attack).
12:16, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 20,36,17 using D20+16,d20+16,d20+16 with rolls of 4,20,1.  e1, e2, e3 free perception check if allowed .

   SUMMARY:
The elementals all strike Brakt for 146 Bludgeon damage
Josep casts a Quick Admonishing Ray for 47 Force non lethal damage
Then adds an old school Magic Missile for 19 Force damage
Total 212 damage. Josep moves out of sight.

ooc: nothing personal Brakt, but you’re the only one brave enough to face me!!

On behalf of Brakt, id like to call a foul and point out that magic missile needs a touch attack roll for each missile for it to be a legal spell.

I request that the spell fizzle with no effect and the spell wasted, resulting in 19 less damage received for Brakt.

I have no clue what Brakt's plan is, but having someone that close to josep is an opportunity i can't afford to go to waste.

Aww, you and your fouls... it won’t get you out of fighting this time though.



This says a ranged attack, not one ranged attack per missile.
If however the latter was the intention of the rule (which I doubt, but why not) I’ll happily roll for the four other missiles.
Boa?

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 84):

I have to agree with Josep it only says one roll which could go either way plus spell only does a max 25 dmg (I hit for more than that with my fist :P)

I do say a revision would be nice so it acts like a ray spell each getting it's own attack roll but GM has it written that way for a reason.


As for Fouls I do not hand them out lightly, If I had ruled the other way I would have simply said all other missles besides first miss.  A foul is for something blatantly breaking rules or trying to create a gray area where there is none

Brakt was waiting for the assault, and to the astonishment of the crowd, easily sidestepped the first 2 attacks sent from the elementals. Even more astonishing was that as Josep chanted the words to cast his spells, there was no effect, as if nothing had happened.

Waiting until the Wizard had sunk completely below the ground, Brakt drew forth his hammer and proceeded to launch a blistering attack at the wizard.  Fighting with his eyes closed wasn't easy, but he still managed to land a devastating critical.  Satisfied that the Wizard has fallen, he slips into the ground below him, moving towards the other magic user.


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ROUND: 1 (Initiative: 24)
 POSITION:
 ACTIONS: Martial Flex(Immediate on end of Latro's Turn), Full Attack(Full-Round Action). 5-ft Step(Free to Q19:R20-1), Move(Hero Point Standard), Martial Flex(Free), Open Eyes(Free)
Move down to Q19:R20-2.  Trigger AoO from any elemental which can reach me at ground level.  Then once underground move to (M15:N16-2)


 HP: 77/196 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 22; FFAC: 15; Touch: 16
CMD: 28; FFCMD: 27; FFTAC: 09

EFFECTS: - Hold Breath 1/16, Boots 2/2
   GEAR: - Amulet, Belt, Hammer, Rod, Cloak, Robes, Armor, Boots, Free Gear(ACP 0, Light Load)

   USES: - Boots 2/10, Amulet 0/1, Martial Flex 5/10

DICE ROLLS:
16:58, Today: Brakt rolled 47,60,28,46,41,4,30,39,23,49,23,13 using 1d20+27,1d100,1d20+27,1d100,1d20+27,1d100,1d20+22,1d100,1d20+22,1d100,1d20+17,1d100 ((20,60,1,46,14,4,8,39,1,49,6,13)). (Crit, Reroll)
17:00, Today: Brakt rolled 239 using 5d100 with rolls of 55,52,67,2,63.  Blind-Fight Reroll .
17:01, Today: Brakt rolled 37 using 1d20+27 with rolls of 10.  Crit confirm.
17:05, Today: Brakt rolled 29,36,20 using 8d8,8d8+8,4d8 with rolls of 5,5,4,4,2,1,1,7,3,2,4,3,7,5,3,1,8,4,7,1.  Vicious, Bane, Vicious to self.
17:04, Today: Brakt rolled 50,29,29,28 using 8d8+24,4d8+12,4d8+12,4d8+12 with rolls of 8,4,1,2,6,1,1,3,8,4,4,1,6,1,5,5,8,2,5,1.  Damage from attack, 1 crit, 3 hits.

Summary: Brakt dodges E1s attacks, and Josep's spells do nothing. Josep takes 201 damage barring shenanigans. Brakt takes 20 damage, then uses a Hero point to run away.

ooc: Nothing personal Josep, but I can see you :D
Rolled full attack, hit 1 naturally, rolled blindsight for all remaining attacks, then after confirming hit/miss compared vs AC

Didn't want to edit my last post, but it's come to my attention that I can't 5"step and move in the same turn.

I'll cancel the 5" step, and then move 5" less to N16:O17

I’m not quite clear on the order of your actions, do you move first and full-attack after? Or do you attack through the stone? Also when in that do you open your eyes? As far as I can tell, Josep has total cover from Brakt (cover, not concealment) throughout the round, so I don’t think any of your attacks are legal.

Also, can you confirm that you actually took zero Force damage from magic missile and admonishing ray?

As far as I'm aware, you're at S20-1:R19+0, of which S20-1 is in normal dirt.  Since I have a burrow speed, I can attack through dirt with no penalty.

Since the rules for large creatures are slightly different, I'll attack from Q20+0 towards S20-1, using ranged cover rules, and picking the lowest possible corner. I can then draw a straight line to any corner of S20-1, so you have no cover.

As for your spells. It's not that I take no damage, but simply that the spells have no effect.

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 89):

I can say nothing on the attack yet need to study, but yes all the force damage was stopped/negated/cancelled/absorbed/resisted/reflected choose your term.

Edit:forgot reflected
This message was last edited by the player at 08:41, Wed 10 Jan 2018.

Does Josep understand what happened to his spells?
He has Greater Arcane Sight active. Also he’s very clever.

 I don’t understand Brakt’s turn — how many move actions did you take?
 I personally didn’t find any reference to burrowing allowing to attack through dirt, but then maybe I’m biased ;)

I will let you know due to Sight that:




As for Actions:
End of Latro's Turn: Immediate

My Turn:
Full Attack (Full Round)
Move (Hero Point Standard as Move)
Free x2

In regards to burrowing. My take on the matter is that if you can move 20" or more per round(That's a dwarf's move speed through air), you should be able to attack as if attacking through air. For reference, I've currently got a 40" burrow speed.

In addition, my burrow speed does require me to hold my breath, which I wouldn't think would be required if I was underground digging tunnels or something to move.

Obviously I'm biased as well, though I do think there needs to be some give in cover rules, otherwise we could sit right next to each other at -2 and not be able to do anything at all.

Additional to last post:

Due to unclarity of rules, and not to fault of anyone, I do ask that should my attack be declared illegal, that the rules on attacking creatures while burrow are established, and I'm able to change my Hero point to before my attack, and as such move to a location where I can reach Josep.

If it turns out the rules are different from what you thought they were, I have no issues with your taking your turn again. I do reserve the right to make you use the same rolls though.

As I see it though, unless you’re earthgliding yourself, you cannot attack an Earth Elemental who is earthgliding.
Same with incorporeal creatures in a solid thing.

I need to pause this match while I do more research at the moment I am leaning towards (just a generalization) if your burrow speed is of a magical origin then yes you can melee/touch attack creatures within reach if it is from mundane origin I.E. race then no you may not attack other creatures underground.  If you are able to attack then similar rules as water apply.  Like I said this is my current thoughts but with tonight being a work night I (fell asleep at PC :() was unable to put in the proper time to give a ruling.
 I just wanted to update you so you can be thinking of how to continue, thank you for your patience.

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 96):

Let's go with GM's rule in OOC, for the most part I agree with him, the only part I have issue with is has no bearing on Brakt's actions.  Go ahead and adjust your rolls Brakt

Pm

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 98):

Sorry, just to confirm.

I can attack Josep as stated, though he has total concealment, is that correct?

Josep has already stated that He reserves the right to make me use the same rolls.  Since I was blind anyway, the additional concealment from being underground would have no bearing on the attack.

As such, I believe the Elementals who can reach Q19+1 or R19+1 get a free AoO as I move away, but Josep still takes ~200 damage as described?

In reply to Brakt (msg # 100):



The bolded section is all you need to worry about, the rest is for attacking creatures above ground.  If I understand it correctly...:)

Okay, so I think I've got this now.


Turn as follows:

Hero Point Move: Move to Q19-1:R20-2. Trigger AoO from Elementals, but use Acrobatics to not trigger an AoO from Josep.
Full-Round: Full Attack at Josep using rolls as before.
Free: Open Eyes


17:01, Today: Brakt rolled 28 using 1d20+19 with rolls of 9.  Acrobatics to Move Through Josep's Threatened Squares DC25.



I can then attack Josep as normal, though he has Total Concealment, which makes no difference since I was blinded anyway.

As per rules for Aquatic Combat, Josep takes 1/2 Bludgeoning Damage, which means he'll take 133 damage.

Then I'll Open my eyes and end turn.

No Martial Flex this time, so uses are 4/10

 At first I thought all three Elemental threatened at least of your squares, and rolled accordingly, but looking back it appears that only e1 and e3 can take that aoo. And luckyly for you, e2 was the one who would score a critical hit.

Anyways, e1 and e3 both take their aoo.

DICE ROLLS:
08:46, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 21,23 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 4,5,3.  e3 aoo vs Brakt.
08:43, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 34 using 1d20+17 with rolls of 17.  e2 confirm critical hit .
08:43, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 37,22 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 20,3,4.  e2 aoo vs Brakt.
08:41, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 21,25 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 4,3,7.  e1 aoo vs Brakt.

That’s 48 bludgeoning damage.

Brakt first attack hits, though he can tell that it didn’t hit as much as he thought it would.

The subsequent attacks seem to have left Josep unscathed (not that anyone can see that). An immediate action was taken.

Some maths to sort out with Brakt, but I think Latro can go ahead and take his turn.
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 13:05, Fri 12 Jan 2018.

Brakt groans as the elementals slam into him again, and again, but breaths a sigh of relief when he slips into the ground out of range.

Brakt falls to 43HP.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:02, Sat 13 Jan 2018.

In reply to Brakt (msg # 104):
Pm


Sorry I just realised I missed a comma in my previous pm to you. I’m editing my message now.
This message was lightly edited by the player at 13:05, Fri 12 Jan 2018.

Also, you may have noticed a free perception check in the dice roller for Josep, it’s actually for Anjou and using his mod.
I’ll use it here though if someone insists on it (3 on d20...)

So, just for my own knowledge, from which post are we starting the 48 hour timer for my turn on?

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 107):

MSG #103

PM

FYI and so we’re all on the same page, Josep used an immediate action (he’s literally 6 feet under so no one really knows what happened there) and is now down to 136/168 hp.


Latro is up.

So the first thing i'd like to do is identify Haran's darkness-like thing if at all possible as it's being cast.

06:54, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 22 using 1d20+19 with rolls of 3.  Spellcraft check vs Haran's darkness thing.

I'll be working on my turn while we learn if i know what it is or not. Knowing what it is won't effect my turn so i'll be posting my turn here shortly.

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 111):

Thanks Bo.

Just as a final note, so i can make this map correctly, what is everyone's position, assuming i'm allowed to know it.
A lot happened between Josep and Brakt so i want to make sure i get everything right for Haran

Also, speaking of Haran

07:34, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 33 using 1d20+15 with rolls of 18.  Free Perception vs Haran's stealth.

why don't you tell me where you are, buddy? >;)
(Or Bo, doesn't really matter)

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 113):

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 114):

PM to BOA

Latro - To identify my spell, you have to see me cast it. If you can see me cast it, then you haven't broken line of sight (necessary to use stealth with invisibility or invisibility-like-effects), and I should know where you are.

Was the spell you made that produced the darkness not visible to me when all our initiatives were taken simultaneously?

Latro's long time in the arena made him wary of many tricks and maneuvers. Fortunantly for him, Haran had decided the best arena to compete in was one with natural cover. Not only could he continue to move undetected by the other gladiators, but Josep's magic could not see through walls... at least not yet anyway so he was safe from him for the time being as well.

Fortunantly, Brakt had taken it upon himself to distract the Wizard giving Latro ample time to create his defense against whomever emerged victorious from that bout and the shadow mage across the way. This was time Latro would make sure not to waste. He would need every advantage he could muster to triumph with his power diminished so.


1st Josep (36)
2nd Brakt (24)
3rd Latro (18)(+11)
4th Haran (18)(+5)


   ROUND: 1 (Initiative: 18)
POSITION: ???
 ACTIONS: Actions Unknown

 HP: 120/120 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 28; FFAC: 22; Touch: 19
CMD: 36; FFCMD: 30; FFTAC: 13

EFFECTS:
Aura of Evil
Aura of Despair (Out to 10 feet: -2 to all saving throws. Does not stack with saving throw reduction of Aura of Cowardice)
Aura of Cowardice (Out to 10 feet: Lose immunity to fear effects or -4 to saving throw vs fear effects if not immune)
DC 24 Will save to negate each aura, starting with Aura of Despair
Hedging Weapons (2/110)
??? (1/5)
??? (1/110)

   GEAR: Backpack, Belt, Belt Pouch, Cloak, Shirt, O-Yori with no gauntlets, Dagger, Headband, Ioun Stone, Falcata, MW Tool , Unholy Symbol Tatoo, Sling, Spell Component Pouch, Potions x2
 (ACP -3, Load: Medium)
   USES: Touch of Corruption 0/14, Smite Good 0/2, Fiendish Boon 0/2, spells lvl 1(anti) 1/4, spells lvl 2(anti) 1/4, spells lvl 3(anti) 0/3, Drow Noble Spells 0/3, Hero Points 1/?


DICE ROLLS:
06:54, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 22 using 1d20+19 with rolls of 3.  Spellcraft check vs Haran's darkness thing.
07:34, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 33 using 1d20+15 with rolls of 18.  Free Perception vs Haran's stealth.

07:58, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 44 using 1d20+38 with rolls of 6.  Stealthy stealth.

   SUMMARY: Latro remains in the labyrinthian structure of the arena. DC 44+ distance to know location without magical assistance.

OOC: Happy weekend everybody. Amazon has finally released me from overtime so i can keep my eyes on this more frequently now.

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 117):

I have a general question, are we not doing that thing where we note what kind of action (swift, move, standard) was taken even if no one knows what those actions are?

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 119):

I do not believe that it is stated that it is required to as long as you post it to me but I do ask if it is something that makes noise attack/spell cast with somatic component you do list it as the others would hear it.

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 118):


Per Bo's last post i will list some sounds others can hear latro doing.

Latro drops a glass of something or another.
Latro casts a spell of some kind using his voice

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 121):

UGH...I am putting this out for all invisibility does not give a penalty for movement that has been gone over to many times.


Bolded text does not say penalty just says you get less of a bonus so when attacking or casting with somatic component you are at +0 plus whatever your stealth modifier is.

If you can find a GM statement/official Pazio post that says different I will change how I see it otherwise this is how it is