I think we are taking melee, in any case. Nothing ranged.

Nothing in what you described would grant total cover anyway, but I agree that there is something to argue about low obstacles, cover or partial cover.

In the section you drew however, square A1 can attack square E3 without any obstacle.

May I remind you of that exact same conversation in round 1, when Josep was half (upper half) in a solid block of masonry? Your argument was that he should get no cover whatsoever from that situation.

Bear in mind also that with 15ft reach, the Elemental “limbs” can reach far beyond the wall to attack, thus negating the benefit of a low obstacle.

Let’s see what Boa thinks of all that anyway.

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 195):

need clarification on Elementals positions looking at map and thier stated positions I question if E2 any ability to attack Brakt at all and E3 with 15' reach you only get 2 cubes on the angle not 3 so in Brakt's drawing if I understand position the bottom of E3 is actually A1 true?

That is a very good point.

E3 can attack around the wall (on the right side of the map) but it looks like e2 is beyond reach anyway. Darn.

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 197):

That's why I asked for clarification on position the map looked like it's on ground level but stated position says it's at +2 on the bottom which is same height as the wall

Yes the actual position for the Elementals is +2.
At first I didn't notice Brakt was at -2, which is why I placed the Elementals there.
Then I thought never mind, I can actually still hit from there.
Turns out I cannot with e2.
Tough luck for me I suppose...

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 199):

Brakt does not have cover to E3 only states any square not just squares within your range when determining cover for reach melee attacks

So in conclusion, it sounds like Brakt takes only 27 damage.

And Brakt is up.

Brakt grunted in pain as the Elemental hammered into him, and murmured something about Wizards and Monsters under his breath.

Deciding that if he was going to die first, the least he could do is take out on of these elementals, the Ogre poked his head around the wall and let his hammer fly at the Elemental, mixed in with a few punches.  Once the being had fallen, he turned his attention towards the Dodo, and muttered a quick apology under his breath as he sank beneath the ground once more.



ROUND: 3 (Initiative: 24)

POSITION: P16-1:R18-3

ACTIONS: Full Attack(Full-Round Action), Activate Amulet(Swift), 5-ft Step Down(Free)

 HP: 5/196 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 21; FFAC: 15; Touch: 14
CMD: 35; FFCMD: 33; FFTAC: 08

EFFECTS: - Cloak 2/10, Boots 4/4, Hold Breath 1/16
   GEAR: - Amulet, Belt, Hammer, Rod, Cloak, Robes, Armor, Boots, Free Gear(ACP 0, Light Load)

   USES: - Boots 4/10, Amulet 1/1, Cloak 1/2, Martial Flex 5/10

DICE ROLLS:

16:50, Today: Brakt rolled 35,6,6 using 6d6+15,2d6,1d6 with rolls of 6,1,1,5,1,6,5,1,6.    Bludgeoning, Vicious to Do, Vicious to self, Swift.
16:50, Today: Brakt rolled 35 using 1d20+27 with rolls of 8.  Swift Melee Hammer attack vs Do.
16:24, Today: Brakt rolled 40,8,5 using 6d6+15,2d6,1d6 with rolls of 4,3,3,6,5,4,2,6,5.  Bludgeoning, Vicious to Do, Vicious to self, A6.
16:24, Today: Brakt rolled 36 using 1d20+19 with rolls of 17.  Melee Hammer A6 v Do AC18.
16:22, Today: Brakt rolled 18 using 3d8+7 with rolls of 7,3,1.  Unarmed Damage A5.
16:22, Today: Brakt rolled 34 32 using 1d20+2018 with rolls of 16.  Unarmed A5 vs E3 AC25.
16:19, Today: Brakt rolled 34 using 6d6+15 with rolls of 3,1,4,4,3,4.  Hammer Damage A4.
16:18, Today: Brakt rolled 32 using 1d20+15 with rolls of 17.  FA Thrown Hammer A4 vs E3 AC25.
16:18, Today: Brakt rolled 23 using 1d20+20 with rolls of 3.  FA Thrown Hammer A3 vs E3 AC25.
16:17, Today: Brakt rolled 31 using 6d6+15 with rolls of 6,1,3,2,2,2.  Hammer Damage A2.
16:16, Today: Brakt rolled 37 using 1d20+20 with rolls of 17.  FA Thrown Hammer Haste Attack vs E3 AC25.
16:15, Today: Brakt rolled 24 using 1d20+20 with rolls of 4.  FA Thrown Hammer Attack 1 vs E3 AC25.

Summary: E3 takes 83 damage from Brakt's attacks. Do takes 89, and Brakt takes 11. Brakt slips down under the ground again.

OOC: No Vicious damage on thrown hammer attacks as not melee.  Forgot to remove weapon focus from unarmed attack roll, but have corrected above.

Sorry Do, but... You were the only thing I could reach.

A couple of questions:
- do you actually have 8 attacks? 6 “normal” ones, a haste one, and a swift one ?
- when throwing hammers, don’t you provoke aoo?
- is your thrown hammer actually dealing 6d6 damage? How big is it?

5 Normal, 1 Haste, 1 Swift.  I mistakenly labeled Haste attack as A2 and just went from there.

Due to trickery, yes my hammer does 6d6.

As for thrown weapons... I forgot about that, so looks like you get a couple free hits.  Unless you want to let me use a free action first >_>

I'll pass on the free action, but thanks for the offer ;)

Seeing an opportunity as the enlarged Ogre tried to strike him from a distance, the Air Elemental slapped him with a gust of his wind-like limb; with each new attack the giant prepared, the Elemental was there to hit... maybe in a desperate hope to avoid being smashed to bits of air by the Hammer.

DICE ROLLS:
 Josep Gavinho rolled 28,25 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 11,2,8.  aoo vs Brakt throwing Hammer A4.
 Josep Gavinho rolled 27,20 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 10,1,4.  aoo vs Brakt throwing Hammer A3.
 Josep Gavinho rolled 30,29 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 13,7,7.  aoo vs Brakt throwing Hammer A2.
 Josep Gavinho rolled 21,27 using D20+17,2d8+15 with rolls of 4,8,4.  aoo vs Brakt throwing Hammer A1.

SUMMARY:
 Brakt takes a hit for 27 damage before attack A1 (which misses), then 29 damage before his hasted attack (which would hit), then 20 damage before attack A3 (which misses), then finally 25 damage before attack A4 (which would hit).
 If Brakt is rendered unconscious during that process, his remaining attacks don't happen. E3 and Do count on it!

Brakt falls unconscious before any of his attacks connect.

Latro was both relived and worried as he heard the breath leave Brakt's body. One less contender to deal with but one less target to distract the wizard from himself. Something had to be done but Latro didn't have the means to do it. Why did he leave Tiaca at the guild hall? no mater. There was still something that could be done. all Latro had to do was reveal his other competitor to Josep's elementals and they would take care of the rest.



   ROUND: 3 (Initiative: 18)
POSITION: ???
 ACTIONS: Actions Unknown

 HP: 120/120 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 28; FFAC: 22; Touch: 19
CMD: 36; FFCMD: 30; FFTAC: 13

EFFECTS:
Aura of Evil
Aura of Despair (Out to 10 feet: -2 to all saving throws. Does not stack with saving throw reduction of Aura of Cowardice)
Aura of Cowardice (Out to 10 feet: Lose immunity to fear effects or -4 to saving throw vs fear effects if not immune)
DC 24 Will save to negate each aura, starting with Aura of Despair

Spell Effects:
Hedging Weapons (4/110)
??? (3/5)
??? (3/110)
??? (2/50)

   GEAR: Backpack, Belt, Belt Pouch, Cloak, Shirt, O-Yori with no gauntlets, Dagger, Headband, Ioun Stone, Falcata, MW Tool , Unholy Symbol Tatoo, Sling, Spell Component Pouch, Potions x1
 (ACP -3, Load: Medium)
   USES: Touch of Corruption 0/14, Smite Good 0/2, Fiendish Boon 0/2, spells lvl 1(anti) 1/4, spells lvl 2(anti) 1/4, spells lvl 3(anti) 0/3, Drow Noble Spells 1/3, Hero Points 1/?


DICE ROLLS:
03:35, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 29 using 1d20+12 with rolls of 17.  Dispel Magic Vs Haran's Blacklight spell.
03:44, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 36 using 1d20+33 with rolls of 3.  Half speed Stealth, no loud noise.

   SUMMARY: Latro attempts to reveal Haran to his elemental foes. If Haran's blacklight spell is CL 19 or higher, Latro does not succeed in dispelling the effect. Latro also continues to hide himself.

OOC: I swear, this dice roller...

I like how you think!

The darkness waned, waxed, and resisted but ultimately shattered beneath the antipaladin’s touch. “Pity.” Haran thought. “Ah the sweet smell of betrayal! Did you feel it Haran? Made all the sweeter by his success.” “Who’s side are you on?” Haran thought. “Why yours of course! But I can appreciate the trouble you have on the way.”

Haran shook his head. He was relying on the darkness to hide his actions but apparently that could no longer be the case. “Remind me to cast blacklight on Latro’s grave once he joins Brakt.” Haran thought. No one will be able to see it, except for me, his fiercest enemy.




Josep (36)
2nd Brakt (24)
3rd Latro (18)(+11)
4th Haran (18)(+5)

ROUND: Round 3 (18)
POSITION: ??? to ???
     ACTIONS:   Cast Spell (Standard Action), (Move Action), (Swift), (free)

HP: 130/130 (0 nonlethal)
AC: 19; FFAC: 14; Touch: 15
CMD: 23; FFCMD 18; FFTAC: 10

EFFECTS: - 4/130 Spell 2; 1/13 Spell 3, 1/5 Spell 4

GEAR: - Headband, belt, rod, shirt, cloak, slippers, potion, potion, elixir, elixir, scroll, scroll, scroll, statue (mini), statue (mini), backpack, belt pouch, dagger, sling, component pouch, spellbook

USES: - spell lvl 1 0/?, spell lvl 2 0/?, spell lvl 3 1/?, spell lvl 4 2/?, spell lvl 5 3/?, spell lvl 6 3/?. .

DICE ROLLS: -

SUMMARY: - Haran casts a few spells


OOC: The darkness has been dispelled. The reason I kept the “*” is for range purposes of a separate effect. If anyone comes within that area, please let me know.

Is this effect something we can visually see?

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 210):

It is invisible

Let’s start with this.
Those are some terrible terrible rolls:  6d20, all under 10. Well done.

13:19, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 24 using 1d20+16 with rolls of 8.  E1 perception .
13:19, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 25 using 1d20+16 with rolls of 9.  E2 perception .
13:18, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 17 using 1d20+16 with rolls of 1.  E3 perception .
13:18, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 21 using 1d20+14 with rolls of 7.  Do perception.
13:18, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 19 using 1d20+16 with rolls of 3.  Josep perception .
13:17, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 6 using 1d20 with rolls of 6.  Round 4 prescience .

Still, does anyone see/hear/feel anyone?

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 212):

The arena is empty...

Elemental 3 finds itself desperately missing the Elemental Plane of Air. Why, oh why, did these mortal ground treading magicians always summon them from their lofty heights to do battle when the were in the middle of a flying through the endless expanses?

I'm currently posting my round.

First, actions for E1 will be this:

Greater Air Elemental (x3)
e1:  C1, +2
 HP: 96/123 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 25; FFAC: 19; Touch: 14
 CMD: 43; FFCMD: 33; FFTAC: 08
 Actions:  Free perception, move to C1, +2, perception (standard)

DICE ROLL:
Josep Gavinho rolled 33 using 1d20+16 with rolls of 17.  E1 Perception (std).

Is he able to pinpoint someone from there?
 Josep's actions are not affected by this, but the other elementals' will be

The Elementals are intrigued by the sudden disappearance of the area of Darkness. They move to investigate, the first one there perusing the area in search of a target. The huge being of air will point his companions to the right direction so that they can strike.

Do the Dodo decides to go on a hunt for Latro, adamant that he can take on the antipaladin by himself.

Josep meanwhile glides underground



Josep (36)
2nd Brakt (24)
3rd Latro (18)(+11)
4th Haran (18)(+5)

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ROUND: 4  (Initiative: 36)
 POSITION: ???   
 ACTIONS:
- free: perception check
- free: Prescience d20 Roll (6)

 HP: 134/168 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 25; FFAC: 21; Touch: 14
CMD: 25; FFCMD: 19; FFTAC: 09

EFFECTS: - Greater Arcane Sight 8/140, See Invisibility 8/140, Summon Monster 7/14, Elemental Body 7/140, Mirror Image 6/140 (6 figments), XXX 5/14, total cover
   GEAR: - Backpack, belt pouch, dagger, sling, component pouch, spellbook, Ioun Stone, Headband, Boots, Bracers, Cloak, Rod, Scroll x4, Hourglass 1h, Belt (ACP 0, Light Load)

MINIONS:

Greater Air Elemental (x3)
e1:  C1, +2
 HP: 96/123 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 25; FFAC: 19; Touch: 14
 CMD: 43; FFCMD: 33; FFTAC: 08
 Actions:  Free perception, move, perception (std)

e2:  C5,+2
 HP: 123/123 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 25; FFAC: 19; Touch: 14
 CMD: 43; FFCMD: 33; FFTAC: 08
 Actions: move and strike target if available (and shown by E1)

e3:  G1,+2
 HP: 68/123 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 25; FFAC: 19; Touch: 14
 CMD: 43; FFCMD: 33; FFTAC: 08
 Actions: move and strike target if available (and shown by E1)

Do the Dodo
 HP: 77/77 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 18; FFAC: 18; Touch: 10
CMD: 7; FFCMD: 7; FFTAC: 10

Position : S12
Actions : move to S12

   USES: - Prescience 6/11 ; Spells: 7th 2/x, 6th 4/x, 5th 0/x, 4th 0/x, 3rd 0/x, 2nd 0/x, 1st 2/x ; Rod 1/3 ; Scrolls 2/4

DICE ROLLS:
Josep Gavinho rolled 33 using 1d20+16 with rolls of 17.  E1 Perception (std).
Josep Gavinho rolled 24 using 1d20+16 with rolls of 8.  E1 perception .
Josep Gavinho rolled 25 using 1d20+16 with rolls of 9.  E2 perception .
Josep Gavinho rolled 17 using 1d20+16 with rolls of 1.  E3 perception .
Josep Gavinho rolled 21 using 1d20+14 with rolls of 7.  Do perception.
Josep Gavinho rolled 19 using 1d20+16 with rolls of 3.  Josep perception .
Josep Gavinho rolled 6 using 1d20 with rolls of 6.  Round 4 prescience .
Josep Gavinho rolled 37 using 1d20+21 with rolls of 16.  stealth.
(more rolls to follow if elementals find targets)

   SUMMARY:
Elementals fly to the now lit corner, try to find a target.
As much as anyone can tell, Josep does something subterranean, while Do goes on the hunt for Latro.


ooc: all the positions indicated are lower-top-right corner of each creature.
 I will roll for attacks if it so happens that the elementals know where to strike...

Each of the elementals need to make a DC23 will. If they pass, they can move as normally. If they fail, they stop right outside the edge of the range

Interesting...

DICE ROLLS:
 Josep Gavinho rolled 21,8,10 using d20+6,d20+6,d20+6 with rolls of 15,2,4.  e1, e2, e3 Will save DC23.

POSITIONS AT END OF JOSEP'S TURN:

E1: I6, +2
E2: D8, +2
E3: K2, +2


UPDATED MAP:

Based on this position, does E1 pinpoint anyone with his perception check?
Boa, given the Elementals' action was interrupted, can I have them take an other standard action (instead of the attack)?

Haha, so uh, based on E2's position, i'm going to have to ask that it make 2 DC24 will saves vs my anti paladin auras, starting with Despair

Once again, failure vs despair results in a -2 penalty to all saves.
Failure vs cowardice results in a loss of fear immunity, or a -4 penalty vs fear effects if not immune.
These penalties last until the start of your next round.

Do with this information what you will as there are quite a number of spaces to pick from that are 10 feet at most from this particular elemental.

also, technically, these saves happen before the elemental tries to enter Haran's anti-whater aura so i will ask that, should it fail the save vs Despair, it re-roll the save vs Haran's thing in the hopes it rolls high enough to bypass it. :P
This message was last edited by the player at 12:30, Sat 27 Jan 2018.