Duel #218: Ankou vs. Lyn.   Posted by GM Arkrim.Group: 0
Lyn
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Fri 23 Feb 2018
at 12:51
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
Lyn shook her head as the beast seemed to have no trouble locating her, even through her invisibility.  She watched as her blade tore into the giant's side, but the ice and lightning coating her blade had no effect!

"I can dance like this all day. The question is, can you?"

Deciding it was time for a change of tactic, the Magus made a few gestures, and a few bolts of pure fire ripped into the giant's side, before those who could see the invisible creature noticed her dashing towards the beast, a bright flame shimmer along her blade.

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L - Lyn
o - Odod
A - Ankou
   ROUND: Round 2 (Initiative: 35)
POSITION: D7
 ACTIONS: Cast Scorching Ray(Standard),  Move to D7(Move), Arcane Weapon(Swift)
 HP: 104/104 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 29; FFAC: 14; Touch: 29 (+1 Dodge from Haste, +4 Cover unless pass Perception DC52)
CMD: 28; FFCMD: 10; FFTAC: 14

EFFECTS: Hasted Assault 3/4, Arcane Weapon 1/10, Invisible 2/13

   GEAR: Curved Blade, Cloak, Belt, Headband, Ioun Stone, Free Gear
   USES: Arcane Pool 9/12, Arcana 0/1
   SPELLS: 5th: 1/1 4th: 0/3, 3rd: 0/4, 2nd: 2/6, 1st: 0/6

MINIONS:

Odod the Dodo
POSITION: F5
 ACTIONS: Withdraw to F5(Full)
 HP: 52/52 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 22; FFAC: 18; Touch: 15
CMD: 7; FFCMD: 7; FFTAC: 10


DICE ROLLS:

23:41, Today: Lyn rolled 52 using 1d20+41 with rolls of 11.  Correct Stealthy invisible move, as rolled incorrecly.
23:40, Today: Lyn rolled 20,26 using 1d20+17,1d20+17 with rolls of 3,9.  Stealthy invisible move.
23:39, Today: Lyn rolled 35,24 using 1d20+17,1d20+17 with rolls of 18,7.  Ray 2 and 3 Attack rolls.
23:39, Today: Lyn rolled 37 using 12d6 with rolls of 1,6,1,6,4,6,2,3,3,3,1,1.  Fire damage from Scorching Ray 3 rays.
23:38, Today: Lyn rolled 24 using 1d20+17 with rolls of 7.  Ray Attack vs Ankou TAC7.

   SUMMARY: Lyn casts a Scorching Ray at the giant for 37 Fire damage, then moves closer. Odod withdraws to back her up.
Ankou
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Fri 23 Feb 2018
at 13:02
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
Is Lyn still invisible after her aoo and spell ?
Ankou
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Fri 23 Feb 2018
at 21:49
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
I'm going to assume you have greater invisibility.
 Just to be clear, your stealth check is 32, right? 52 before -20 penalty for loud noise/casting/attacking.


 The Ankou was wounded, but nothing he couldn't handle.
  "RAAH!! Stop following me!"  he uttered, as he walked away, this time far enough to get into a good striking position. His giant weapon was raised high in the sky, almost touching the arena magic ceiling, and suddenly lowered to hit Lyn, she almost managed to dodge the blow... but not quite.

 As the tree-size fauchard drew blood, and lots of it, he asked:
  "Are you all right!? Want to dance some more?"

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2  AAA     2
3  AAA     3
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L - Lyn
o - Odod
A - Ankou

   ROUND: Round 2 (Initiative: 17)
POSITION: C1-E3
 ACTIONS:
Move 30ft North (move)
Strike Lyn (Standard)

HP 201/266
AC 24 / TAC 07 / FFAC 23
CMD 33 / FFCMD 33 / FFTAC 06

EFFECTS: Haste, Wild Shape, Protection, Rage, Ironskin

   GEAR:  Fauchard, Wood armor, Boots, Cloak, Belt, Helmet
          Backpack, belt pouch, dagger, sling, spell component pouch

   USES: wild shape 1/6, spell level 7 1/?, spell level 6 1/?

DICE ROLLS:
21:32, Today: Ankou rolled 40,10,3,4 using 3d8+31,2d6,D6,D6 with rolls of 3,1,5,5,5,3,4.  damage (slashing, bane, shock, frost).
21:31, Today: Ankou rolled 27 using 1d20+22 with rolls of 5.  Standard Fauchard Attack (with PA).
21:31, Today: Ankou rolled 34 using 1d20+20 with rolls of 14.  free perception.


  SUMMARY: Ankou moves away and strikes ! Lyn takes 50 slashing damage, 3 electric, and 4 cold. Total 57.

ooc: I believe you are entitled to an aoo again.
Lyn
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Sat 24 Feb 2018
at 06:26
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
I attacked first, then moved with Stealth afterwards, so I don't think the -20 penalty applies? I havent been completely still so I only get +20 from Invisibility, but that was already included. And yeah, spell is Greater Invis.

Mael? Your call.

I'll roll my AoO when I have a chance
Ankou
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Sat 24 Feb 2018
at 08:33
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
The reason Iím asking is that if I fail my perception check (which is the case if your DC is 52) I need to spend a swift action to use my Auspicious Mark otherwise my attack misses. So Iíll do that.
Ankou
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Sat 24 Feb 2018
at 08:42
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
Sorry for the double post, I didnít want to edit.
Boadicea and Arkrim went over this in Battle for the Belt (check that thread)
If youíre moving, invisibility gives only +20 to stealth.
If youíre also casting/attacking, you take a -20 penalty to your stealth, for a total of +0.
Maelstrom
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Sat 24 Feb 2018
at 09:43
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Ankou (msg # 24):

@Lyn - Ankou is correct regarding stealth. I'll list some of the conversation below.

A stationary invisible creature (that does not attack) has a +40 bonus on its Stealth checks. This bonus is reduced to +20 if the creature is moving.

Additionally, the arena's "house rule" is that you take a -20 penalty to Stealth for taking certain actions rather than "automatically failing" as per normal interpretations of the Stealth skill. An attack would result in a -20 penalty to your stealth.

@Ankou - You didn't quite answer my question. PM


Also, the match can continue. My PM to Ankou does not affect the progress.

This message was last edited by the player at 10:18, Sat 24 Feb 2018.

Ankou
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Sat 24 Feb 2018
at 11:59
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
@Maelstrom:
I cannot find the rules for Hidden on the Map on the new rules site.

My understanding was that one can choose to strike at a square even if they donít know whatís in there.

However if you rule that to attack, one needs to first beat the stealth DC with a perception check, I will do that.
Lyn
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Sat 24 Feb 2018
at 12:33
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
Okay, that makes more sense, thanks.

Perception DC is 32, so you're good. You do still need to roll 50% concealment though I think?

Lyn crits on her AoO for 52 slashing and 11 fire.

Possible immediate action pending answer from Mael


17:35, Today: Lyn rolled 29,23 using 1d10+20,1d10+20 with rolls of 9,3.  Critical p.strike aoo damage.

17:34, Today: Lyn rolled 30 using 1d20+28 with rolls of 2.  Crit confirm vs tac23.

17:31, Today: Lyn rolled 38 using 1d20+22 with rolls of 16.  Flank p.strike aoo vs TAC23.

23:13, Today: Lyn rolled 2,9 using 1d6,1d10 with rolls of 2,9.  Flame, flaming burst damage from aoo.
Ankou
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Sat 24 Feb 2018
at 12:50
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
The Ankou needs not roll for concealment as long as Lyn has a heartbeat, which I assume she has.

Upon receiving Lynís strike, he dismisses his ironskin spell (free action) to negate the critical hit.

He still takes 29 slashing and 2 flaming damage.

Current HP is 172/266
Maelstrom
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Sat 24 Feb 2018
at 16:38
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
FYI, Ankou, the reason I was using a PM was to protect the confidential nature of what you're using. But if you don't care, we can have this discussion out loud.

You can absolutely choose what square to attack in. But I would rule your character has to have some in-game reason for choosing that 1 square out of the over 40 squares that are available for you. A good reason would be - that's where they last saw their opponent. Granted, in this case itís irrelevant because Lyn didn't move (sufficient reason) and your attack missed (moot point), but I just wanted there to be clarification.


PM
Maelstrom
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Sat 24 Feb 2018
at 16:41
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Maelstrom (msg # 38):

Thanks Grunyar for posting in OOC: I'll repost here

quote:
Hidden But Still On the Map (Optional Rule): Hiding characters still reveal their position on the map during PvP. However, if an attacker fails to pinpoint their location through means other than the map, then they improve their current cover benefits against that foe by two steps to a max of total cover (no cover -> partial cover -> cover -> improved cover -> total cover). This is in addition to concealment miss chances that remain in place should their foe find them until the start of their next turn. If underwater (or suffering a similar revealing condition, see above) they increase it by only 1 step. Because of this rule, spread effects can't negate your cover. So fireballing an invisible character at point blank if the caster didn't know where the target was would be as follows: 50% miss chance for an autosuccessful save, normal Reflex saving throw if miss chance hits with +4 cover bonus, treated as having Evasion. So you'd have to be unlucky on the miss chance AND saving throw to get damaged by such an attack while invisible. However, if the cast succeeded on a Perception check, the target would not get the cover benefits

Lyn
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Sun 25 Feb 2018
at 05:52
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
Sorry for short post, on phone. Hopefully it makes sense

Lyn's eyes glow as her blade bites into the giant once again, and with barely a pause as the blade dug deep into her arm, she began the words of a spell, even as odod rushed forward into a flanking position.

A blink, and she was on him, her blade dug deep, and as her sword swing down again, a burst of flames plunged forth from both sides! As the flames cleared, it was clear the giant had taken a beating, while a bright electric shock ran over the beast.

Odod: move to F2

Lyn: Spell combat, dimension door to D4, full attack, on crit use critical perfection free action to increase multiplier. Use swift action for critical strike. Cast scorching ray. Use stored maximised shocking grasp as free action for good measure.

Ankou takes 138 slashing and 61 fire damage and 60 shock damage.

16:43, Today: Lyn rolled 38,14,9 using 12d6,3d6,1d10 with rolls of 5,1,1,3,6,1,5,6,2,2,2,4,3,5,6,9.  Flame damage, scorching ray, flaming X3 attacks, flaming hurst.

16:42, Today: Lyn rolled 24,29,29,30,26 using 1d10+20,1d10+20,1d10+20,1d10+20,1d10+20 with rolls of 4,9,9,10,6.  Slashing damage, critx2 + 2 attacks.

16:41, Today: Lyn rolled 32 using 1d20+17 with rolls of 15.  Critical Strike arcana cast scorching ray tac7.

16:40, Today: Lyn rolled 43 using 1d20+26 with rolls of 17.  Crit confirm attack 1, +2 arcane points for x3 multiplier ffac19.

16:39, Today: Lyn rolled 38,28,25 using 1d20+20,1d20+20,1d20+15 with rolls of 18,8,10.  Spell combat (defensive autoaucceed) full attack haste pstrike 3 attacks.
Ankou
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Sun 25 Feb 2018
at 11:46
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
 I'm not sure I understand everything, but then magi are expert at action economy so that shouldn't surprise me.
 Could you break down what is what action? Especially how do you dimension door and full-attack afterwards?

 - Ankou has a magic item that will cancel that critical and take normal damage instead.
 - The electricity damage is negated.
 - I don't think Scorching Ray is a valid candidate for Critical Strike (we'll have to ask Maelstrom) as it doesn't have a range of "touch". Actually that may be moot as there is no Critical to begin with.
 - I will take that aoo against Odod for moving out of a threatened square (not with the Fauchard, but with a natural attack)

 So, assuming everything else is legit (which I don't doubt it is), Ankou takes:
 24 slashing (-2 DR = 22) and 3 fire from attack 1
 30 slashing (-2 DR = 28) and 5 fire from attack 2
 26 slashing (-2 DR = 24) and 6 fire from attack 3

For a total 74 slashing and 14 fire.
Ankou
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Sun 25 Feb 2018
at 11:53
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
For clarity (and because I know what it's like to try and update a map from a phone!)

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L - Lyn (D4)
o - Odod (F2)
A - Ankou (B1-D3)
Lyn
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Sun 25 Feb 2018
at 22:40
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
Well, that changes things.

Just to clear things up, actions are as follows.
Spell Combat(Full)
Cast dimension door(Free as part of spell combat. Dimensional agility feat lets me continue to act)
Full attack(free as spell combat)

Critical didn't happen, so no swift action happens, though you are right that scorching Ray isn't a valid target, so sorry about that, thanks.

As Ankou isn't dead yet, I'd like to take a stealthy 5ft step after my attack to E4. I'll also use a Swift action to refresh my Haste.

This means Lyn is left with 47hp left.

09:34, Today: Lyn rolled 33 using 1d20+21 with rolls of 12.  Stealth! (Correct modifiers applied).

Odod just moved normally so feel free to take that AoO.
Maelstrom
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Sun 25 Feb 2018
at 22:49
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Ankou (msg # 42):

Yes, Scorching Ray wouldn't be a valid target for critical strike as it has a Range of 'close' and critical strike specifically limits its effect to spells with a range of touch.

Also, a PM for Lyn!
Lyn
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Mon 26 Feb 2018
at 02:50
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
Okay, so.

Spell-Combat allows a magus to cast a spell and full-attack in the same round.

Spell Combat:
At 1st level, a magus learns to cast spells and wield his weapons at the same time. This functions much like two-weapon fighting, but the off-hand weapon is a spell that is being cast. To use this ability, the magus must have one hand free (even if the spell being cast does not have somatic components), while wielding a light or one-handed melee weapon in the other hand. As a full-round action, he can make all of his attacks with his melee weapon at a Ė2 penalty and can also cast any spell from the magus spell list with a casting time of 1 standard action (any attack roll made as part of this spell also takes this penalty). If he casts this spell defensively, he can decide to take an additional penalty on his attack rolls, up to his Intelligence bonus, and add the same amount as a circumstance bonus on his concentration check. If the check fails, the spell is wasted, but the attacks still take the penalty. A magus can choose to cast the spell first or make the weapon attacks first, but if he has more than one attack, he cannot cast the spell between weapon attacks.


As such, as part of spell combat, I can cast dimensional door, then take advantage of dimensional agility to attack.

I love how you guys just went with this when I did it vs Vry, but now have an issue with it :P
Maelstrom
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Mon 26 Feb 2018
at 03:44
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Lyn (msg # 45):

When we were up against Vry, I just assumed you had all the required feats.

Now that I can actually see your feats...

Ankou
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Mon 26 Feb 2018
at 09:29
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
Iím fine with the explanation, unless thereís something Iím missing.

Am I go to go with my turn ?
Lyn
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Mon 26 Feb 2018
at 12:10
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
Yeah, go for it. :)
Ankou
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Mon 26 Feb 2018
at 20:48
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
 As the bird approached, Ankou slapped it properly.

 The Ankou started showing signs of weakness... he moved away to get back in striking position. He moaned about his choice of weapon...
  "Grrrr!! That thing is just too huge for close-quarter fighting!"  he uttered as he walked away

 He hit again, and his fauchard proved efficient after all, as the steel struck true and cut the magus open from shoulder to hip.
  "WRAAAAAAH!! "  the giant bellowed.


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L - Lyn
o - Odod
A - Ankou

   ROUND: Round 3 (Initiative: 17)
POSITION: D8-F10
 ACTIONS: (take one hand off the Fauchard to take aoo in round 2)
Free Perception (Free) - use Auspicious Mark (swift)
Move 40ft South (move) - provokes aoo
Bring a hand back to fauchard (free) & Strike Lyn (Standard)

HP 84/266
AC 18 / TAC 07 / FFAC 17
CMD 33 / FFCMD 33 / FFTAC 06

EFFECTS: Haste, Wild Shape, Protection, Rage


   GEAR:  Fauchard, Wood armor, Boots, Cloak, Belt, Helmet
          Backpack, belt pouch, dagger, sling, spell component pouch

   USES: wild shape 1/6, spell level 7 1/?, spell level 6 1/?, Auspicious Mark

DICE ROLLS:
20:17, Today: Ankou rolled 32,25 using d20+19,2D6+19 with rolls of 13,5,1.  rnd2 aoo vs odod.
20:06, Today: Ankou rolled 29 using 1d20+20 with rolls of 9.  free perception.
20:11, Today: Ankou rolled 5 using 1d6 with rolls of 5.  auspicious mark bonus on perception.
20:25, Today: Ankou rolled 40 using 1d20+22 with rolls of 18.  Standard Fauchard Attack (with PA).
20:25, Today: Ankou rolled 33 using 1d20+22 with rolls of 11.  confirm critical.
20:28, Today: Ankou rolled 49,45,6,1,2 using 3d8+31,3d8+31,2d6,D6,D6 with rolls of 7,7,4,5,2,7,1,5,1,2.  Damage, Crit, Bane, Shock, Frost.


  SUMMARY: the Ankou takes his aoo against Odod, the bird takes 25 damage.  The Ankou moves away (Lyn can take an aoo)
 He then strikes and scores a critical hit ; Lyn takes 94 slashing damage, 1 electric, and 2 cold. Total 97.

If Lyn somehow survives that attack, Ankou uses a hero point to strike again.
Lyn
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Mon 26 Feb 2018
at 22:43
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
Lyn doesn't have any tricks to dodge criticals like that... Oh well.

AoO does 25 slashing and 5 Fire

Time to learn how to change elements. That would of made a difference I think without that resist energy :O

Lyn has 1615bp and used 0 Hero Points.
Ankou
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Tue 27 Feb 2018
at 00:54
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
Phew ! I was bleeding badly. Yes, that protection was a lifesaver.
Now I can go find a weapon that actually allows me to strike in melee, not just people all the way across the arena !
Meanwhile you can find a way to get admixture and we can have a rematch!

Ankou has 1,748 bp and used no hero point.
Maelstrom
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Tue 27 Feb 2018
at 02:50
Re: Duel # 218: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to a Great Match:


ANKOU IS THE VICTOR!

Ankou gets: 1615/3 = 538 bp; +1 hero point

Lyn get: 1748/6 = 291 bp; +0 hero points

Maelstrom gets: (1748+1615)/8 = 420 bp