Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn.   Posted by GM Arkrim.Group: 0
GM Arkrim
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 01:54
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Jayce the Tamer:
Lyn:
Ankou:
The Ankou challenges Lyn (again!)

  Match Type: PvP
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit
      Referee: Jayce
Participant 1: Ankou, Oread, Druid (14)
Participant 2: Lyn, Elf, Magus (14)
          Map: Large COLOSSEUM
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 prep round
       Extras: Hidden on the Map; No Burrowing.

We've gone full circle ó†but we've seen each other's sheet since ;)
 No burrowing means nothing can go below ground level. Not even one's feet, or summoned minions or whatnot.   
Lyn accepts once more, determined to bring glory to The Order.

OOC: I have to win one of these times, right?

Jyce accepts Ref duty.



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Jayce the Tamer
 Summoner 2,543, 380 posts
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 01:57
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Init and sheets, I'll review them shortly after posting. Highest Init picks starting square, lower init gets the one across. Clean fight please. I'll only intervene when asked for a ref ruling or something LOOKS suspect. Thank you and good luck both of you!
Lyn
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 06:03
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Lyn will start in A1
Jayce the Tamer
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 06:51
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Didn't even bother doing an init eh?
Pm for Lyn.

This message was last edited by the player at 07:31, Sun 11 Mar 2018.

Lyn
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 07:44
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
I did, just forgot to post it, oops!

16:30, Today: Lyn rolled 35 using 1d20+23 with rolls of 12.  Init Duel 221.
Jayce the Tamer
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 07:50
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Lyn (msg # 5):

PM for Lyn.
Lyn
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 08:02
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
PM
Jayce the Tamer
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 08:14
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Lyn (msg # 7):

Lyn is done. Waiting on Ankou.
Lyn
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 08:20
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Correction:
Ankou
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 09:13
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Today: Ankou rolled 20 using 1d20+02 with rolls of 18.  Initiative: or how Iíve learnt to stop trying and accept I would go second. .

The Ankou walks into the arena with his usual black shroud covering his features, a long sword, and a large tyrannosaur in tow.

This message was last edited by the player at 09:29, Sun 11 Mar 2018.

Jayce the Tamer
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 09:20
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Ankou (msg # 10):

Can't see sheet.
Ankou
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 09:30
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 11):
 How about now?
 Sorry I originally made the PM to just ďJayceĒ
Jayce the Tamer
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 09:47
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Ankou (msg # 12):

ok lets go!
Ankou
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 09:54
Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Iíll be in T20 with Titus in S18-T19
Lyn
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 10:15
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Lyn stepped into the area once again, patting her Dodo on the head as he trembled in her bag.  Things were going to be different this time though, they had to be.

It was a moment as she drew forth a sparkling diamond from her components pouch, and crushed it in between her fingers. A word, a puff of air, and to anyone looking at her, the Elf was looking more like a cat.

It was a simple matter to tap her heels together as she stepped across the arena lithely, drawing her blade as she moved.  A few more words, another spell cast, and Lyn stood waiting in the shadow of the giant beast which had followed the druid into the arena.


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Legend:
Y = Lyna
T = Titus
A = Ankou



   ROUND: Prep (35)
POSITION: G7
ACTIONS: Cast Spell(Swift), Activate Boots(Free), Move and Draw Weapon(Move), Cast Spell(Standard)


HP: 154/154 (0 nonlethal)
AC: 34; FFAC : 15; Touch: 29
CMD: 32; FFCMD: 20; FFTAC: 10


   EFFECTS: Spell1: 1/140, Haste 1/1
   GEAR: - elven curved blade, robe, belt, headband, stone, boots, gem(Used), gem, spellbook, free gear.
   USES: -  Boots 1/10, Gem 1/2, Spellbook 0/3, Lv1 Spells 1/6, lv2 0/6, lv3 1/5, lv4 0/4 lv5 0/2



Odod the Dodo:
Odod has chosen to hide in his master's pack and as such will not be represented on the map or taking actions.



Dice Rolls:



Summary: Lyna casts 2 spells, and stares down the monster and his master.

Spellcraft DC Spell1: 34; Spell2: 28




OOC: Let's do this!


Jayce the Tamer
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 10:17
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Lyn, I can't see your spell cast.
Lyn
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 10:36
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
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Better?
Jayce the Tamer
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 10:41
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
better
Ankou
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 11:47
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
when you say looks more like a cat, did you actually polymorph into a feline quadruped?

The Ankou had changed his ways, abandoning his inner Rage thanks to his bond with a scaly friend... Titus was still a juvenile Dinosaur, but the force in his impressive jaws was already a match or the Ankou's... the tall dinosaur roared to signal his pleasure at being in the arena for the first time.

 Shrouded in his travelling cloak, the Ankou let his companion lead the way towards Lyn. He transformed into something huge, a champion of giantkind, wielding a sword very similar to Lyn's ó†albeit a much larger version of it.

 "Glad to see you again, Lyn! I'm looking forward to opening you in half!! Muahaha!!"

His laugh reverberates in the arena, as the giant moves in place and points his huge blade towards the small cat-like elf.



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Legend:
Y = Lyna
T = Titus
A = Ankou

<tt>
   ROUND: Prep (20)
POSITION: L12-N14
ACTIONS: Cast Spell(Swift), Activate Boots(Free), Wild Shape(Standard), Move and Draw Weapon(Move)

HP: 252/252 (0 nonlethal)
AC: 21; FFAC : 19; Touch: 10
CMD: 35; FFCMD: 34; FFTAC: 10

   EFFECTS: Protection from Energy: 1/140, Haste 1/10
   GEAR: -Ring, Amulet, Headband, Wood armor, Boots, Elven Curved Blade, Belt, Blindfold, Bracelet, Free Gear.
   USES: -  Boots 1/10, ,Spells: 7th level 1/x, 6th level 0/x, 5th level 0/x, 4th level 0/x, 3rd level 0/x, 2nd level 0/x, 1st level 0/x


Titus the T-Rex: Position: K10-L11, HP 132/132
AC 26, FFAC 24, TAC 11, CMD 34, FFCMD 32, FFTAC 0
Actions:  Roar (free), Move (move), Move (standard)
Gear: Belt of Giant Strength, Amulet of Might Fists
Effects: none

Dice Rolls:
11:08, Today: Ankou rolled 22 using 1d20+17 with rolls of 5.  Spellcraft identify spell 2.
11:07, Today: Ankou rolled 19 using 1d20+17 with rolls of 2.  Spellcraft identify spell 1.
11:43, Today: Ankou rolled 37 using 1d20+20 with rolls of 17.  free perception.

Summary: Ankou tries to identify the spells cast, but fails. He focuses on his Primal strength and grows to huge proportions.
 He casts Protection From Energy, moves towards Lyn and draws a weapon, Titus precedes his master.


ooc: Know Nature to identify the Ankou's shape.
Lyn
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 12:13
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
23:05, Today: Lyn rolled 31 using 1d20+24 with rolls of 7.  Knowledge Nature!

As part of Ankou casting the spell, Lyn will use Knowledge Arcana to identify what element was selected for protection, at DC25;

Identify a spell effect that is in place Arcana 20 + spell level
+1/10ft for Distance

23:10, Today: Lyn rolled 37 using 1d20+24 with rolls of 13.  Knowledge Arcana to Identify protected energy.

Are you a frost giant again?

No, I'm not polymorphing, just enhancing my defenses. :D

Ankou
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 12:19
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Ocean Giant actually!
And to save you a trip to pfsrd, it gives resist Cold 30 and Electricity 30, no vulnerability ;)

When identifying the spell, does it actually tell you which element I chose?
Lyn
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 12:29
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Spellcraft doesn't, but as far as I'm aware, Knowledge Arcana will let me identify an ongoing effect? In this case, identify that you have protection from X element?

Regardless, I don't think it will effect my turn, which will be up in a few minutes.

I'll post everything as full damage and let you figure out the resistances.

Lyn
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 12:56
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
A smile crossed the elf's lips as he spoke. "Somehow I don't think I'll be the one split in half today."

A few words, a gesture, and a familiar door opened before the elf, and as she stepped through, her blade flashed through the air.  Even as her blade ripped into the giant, she was voicing the words for another spell, and as his very life force was sapped away, Lyn looked stronger then ever!

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Legend:
Y = Lyna
T = Titus
A = Ankou


<tt>
   ROUND: 1 (35)
POSITION: K15
ACTIONS: Spell-Combat(Dimension Door)(Full Attack Piranha Strike), Emp Int Shocking Grasp from Weapon(Free) Maximised Empowered Vampiric Touch(Critical Strike Free)


HP: 210/154 (0 nonlethal)
AC: 34; FFAC : 15; Touch: 29
CMD: 32; FFCMD: 20; FFTAC: 10


   EFFECTS: Spell1: 1/140, Haste 2/2
   GEAR: - elven curved blade, robe, belt, headband, stone, boots, gem(Used), gem, spellbook, free gear.
   USES: -  Boots 2/10, Gem 1/2, Spellbook 0/3, Lv1 Spells 1/6, lv2 0/6, lv3 1/5, lv4 1/4 lv5 1/2



Odod the Dodo:
Odod has chosen to hide in his master's pack and as such will not be represented on the map or taking actions.



Dice Rolls:
23:45, Today: Lyn rolled 10 using 2d6 with rolls of 4,6.  Bane Damage Spellstrike.
23:45, Today: Lyn rolled 37 using 1d20+28 with rolls of 9.  Spellstrike Damage.
23:44, Today: Lyn rolled 26 using 1d20+20 with rolls of 6.  Critical Strike Spellstrike.
23:43, Today: Lyn rolled 14 using 3d6 with rolls of 2,6,6.  Empowered Maximised Vampiric Touch.
23:41, Today: Lyn rolled 1 using 1d4 with rolls of 1.  Non-Lethal Damage from Spellbook.
23:40, Today: Lyn rolled 48 using 15d6 with rolls of 6,5,4,1,1,1,5,3,2,3,3,4,1,3,6.  Emp Int Shocking Grasp.
23:39, Today: Lyn rolled 38,32,32,33,14 using 1d10+28,1d10+28,1d10+28,1d10+28,3d6 with rolls of 10,4,4,5,2,6,6.  Slashing Damage, Crit, Bane.
23:36, Today: Lyn rolled 30 using 1d20+15 with rolls of 15.  Crit Confirmation FFAC19.
23:35, Today: Lyn rolled 28,29,32 using 1d20+20,1d20+20,1d20+15 with rolls of 8,9,17.  Full Attack vs Ankou FFAC19.
23:10, Today: Lyn rolled 37 using 1d20+24 with rolls of 13.  Knowledge Arcana to Identify protected energy.
23:05, Today: Lyn rolled 31 using 1d20+24 with rolls of 7.  Knowledge Nature!


Summary: Lyn deals the hurt.

Total Damage: 300
172 Slashing
24 Bane
48 Shocking
56 Untyped Damage



OOC: Oww... I think your out, even with your resistance and shield.

Assuming you dodge the crit somehow? Since you didn't bring your hat into the Arena, remove 33 damage.


Lyn
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 12:59
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Correction. Lyn took 1 Non-Lethal Damage before the Vampiric Touch, so is effectively at 209hp
Spellbook uses are 1/3
Ankou
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 14:15
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn

Man this is getting complicated, I'll try and break it down.

Lyn rolled 10 using 2d6 with rolls of 4,6.  Bane Damage Spellstrike.
Lyn rolled 37 using 1d20+28 with rolls of 9.  Spellstrike Damage.
Lyn rolled 26 using 1d20+20 with rolls of 6.  Critical Strike Spellstrike.

Lyn rolled 14 using 3d6 with rolls of 2,6,6.  Empowered Maximised Vampiric Touch
Lyn rolled 48 using 15d6 with rolls of 6,5,4,1,1,1,5,3,2,3,3,4,1,3,6.  Emp Int Shocking Grasp.
Lyn rolled 38,32,32,33,14 using 1d10+28,1d10+28,1d10+28,1d10+28,3d6 with rolls of 10,4,4,5,2,6,6.  Slashing Damage, Crit, Bane.
Lyn rolled 28,29,32 using 1d20+20,1d20+20,1d20+15 with rolls of 8,9,17.  Full Attack vs Ankou FFAC19.

So, 3 attacks hit, crit is (as you suspected) canceled through shenanigans.

So slashing damage is 38+32+32+14 (inc bane) -2 per attack through DR, total 110 damage.
Shocking grasp deals 48 -30 (resist), total 18 damage
Vampiric touch deals 56 damage
No critical therefore no Critical Strike (I reckon)

Total 184 damage, the Ankou is still standing - at 68/252
Let me know if I missed something.

Note you've rolled d20+28 for your Critical Strike Spellstrike damage, but that is irrelevant now.

Question, did you provoke an AOO at any point? Cause I will take it ;)


The Ankou keeps being surprised at how much damage that tiny elf can dish out, whether through slashing fury or magic...

 "Arrrgnh!" he moans, but doesn't fall yet."My turn..."

 First, the Dinosaur moves into position and tries a big bite but fails to hit the elf.

 The Ankou then raises his blade and hits, and hits again, and again, and again...  he hits three times and does a lot of damage, but the elf's unnatural health allows her to stay up, or so it seems.


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Legend:
Y = Lyna
T = Titus
A = Ankou

   ROUND: Prep (20)
POSITION: L13-N15
ACTIONS: Full-attack (full-round action)

HP: 252/252 (0 nonlethal)
AC: 21; FFAC : 19; Touch: 10
CMD: 35; FFCMD: 34; FFTAC: 10

   EFFECTS: Protection from Energy: 1/140, Haste 1/10
   GEAR: -Ring, Amulet, Headband, Wood armor, Boots, Elven Curved Blade, Belt, Blindfold, Bracelet, Free Gear.
   USES: -  Boots 1/10, ,Spells: 7th level 1/x, 6th level 0/x, 5th level 0/x, 4th level 0/x, 3rd level 0/x, 2nd level 0/x, 1st level 0/x

Titus the T-Rex: Position: I14-J15, HP 132/132
AC 26, FFAC 24, TAC 11, CMD 34, FFCMD 32, FFTAC 0
Actions:  Move around Lyn to not provoke AOO (move), Attack with vital strike (standard)
Gear: Belt of Giant Strength, Amulet of Might Fists
Effects: none

Dice Rolls:
13:57, Today: Ankou rolled 91,11 using 6d8+64,2d6 with rolls of 5,2,3,8,4,5,5,6.  Critical damage, Bane.
13:57, Today: Ankou rolled 48,5 using 3d8+32,2d6 with rolls of 7,6,3,3,2.  Damage Attack 1, Bane .
13:56, Today: Ankou rolled 40 using 1d20+23 with rolls of 17.  confirm critical .
13:55, Today: Ankou rolled 33,43,28 using D20+23,D20+23,d20+18 with rolls of 10,20,10.  Ankou: Full-attack Lyn (Power Attack, Flanking).
14:00, Today: Ankou rolled 44,3 using 3d8+32,2d6 with rolls of 8,2,2,1,2.  additional attack damage .
14:00, Today: Ankou rolled 33 using 1d20+23 with rolls of 10.  Hero point additional attack (PA, flank).

13:52, Today: Ankou rolled 31 using 1d20+21 with rolls of 10.  Titus: Vital Strike no PA vs Lyn (flanking) .

Summary:
Titus moves in flanking position, Ankou 5ft-steps into flanking position
Titus attacks but fails to hit the elf.
Ankou full-attacks:
 thanks to flanking his first attack hits for 53 damage
 his second attack is a critical for 102 damage
 he taps into his hero potential and attacks again for 47 damage

 Total 202 slashing damage (the blade is adamantine btw, if it makes a difference)

ooc: All that is assuming your AC is indeed 34, with +2 for flanking ó†let me know if there's something else there.
 I got close but not quite there... is there such thing as massive damage threshold she you deal over 50 damage in one blow?
 I suppose you'll have no problem finishing me off now...

 I just realised I messed up my rolls with Titus, he should hit +2 over what I rolled, which would make his first attack a hit *facepalm* I don't suppose you would let me reroll, would you??

Ankou
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 15:10
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Hold on actually, I just realised I need to roll my damage twice and take the better result, let me edit that real quick.
Ankou
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 15:16
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Dice rolls:
: Ankou rolled 46 using 3d8+32 with rolls of 1,7,6.  Hero point Attack  reroll (locate weakness).
 Ankou rolled 97 using 6d8+64 with rolls of 7,7,7,1,3,8.  Critical reroll (locate weakness).
: Ankou rolled 48 using 3d8+32 with rolls of 5,5,6.  Attack 1 reroll (locate weakness).

Thatís 6 additional damage on the critical, and 2 additional on the Hero point attack.
 So altogether 210 damage - though I suppose you still have some shenanigans up your sleeve...
Ankou
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 17:31
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Also, question, are you using this:
quote:
Harmful Surge (Su) You can maximize a spell, but doing so damages you. Spend this boon effect as a free action when you cast a wizard evocation spell. When you do, you can treat that spell as if it were cast with the Maximize Spell metamagic feat, but you take 1d4 points of damage ◊ the level of the spell that you are maximizing. The damage you take cannot be reduced in any way.


Because this says wizard evocation spell, and as a magus I donít think you can cast a wizard spell.
Sure, Shocking Grasp is a wizard spell as well, but youíre not casting it as a wizard.

Jayce, your thoughts?
Jayce the Tamer
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Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 18:27
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
No, he is not.

Edit, actually let me check. LYN did not post sources on this one.

This message was last edited by the player at 20:51, Sun 11 Mar 2018.

Lyn
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 05:35
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Okay, let's try and clear things up.

Full-Round: Dimension Door and Full Attack

On Critical Hit: Critical Strike, cast Empowered Vampiric Touch as Swift Action. Can't use Book of Harms regardless since it's not an evocation spell, which I just realised.

I will ask Jayce for a ruling whether your Bracelet stops me from using my critical strike arcana or if it just stops the critical damage.  If I can't use the critical strike, then I'd like to use my swift action instead to cast a quickened Empowered Vampiric Touch.

Ankou takes 42 damage instead of 56, and I'm on 195 HP before Ankou's turn. Ankou still takes the Spellstrike and Bane damage as well.

16:27, Today: Lyn rolled 42 using 10d6 with rolls of 4,3,3,6,6,5,1,6,3,5.  Empowered Vampiric Touch damage roll.


My turn to lawyer now :)  With my AC of 34, and your rolls, I can see that you've only hit me with your critical attack? Both your first attack, and your hero point came in at 33. Your blindfold lets you reroll the critical damage, but not the other attacks?

This message was last edited by the player at 06:10, Mon 12 Mar 2018.

Ankou
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 07:59
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Re my roll, I didnít include the flanking bonus as I didnít know whether it applied.
So if you have a way to avoid flanking, your reading is correct.
Otherwise these two rolls hit AC35.

The Blindfold creates a constant Locate Weakness spell, which affects all melee attacks.

On a side note re the Preconstructed Spellbooks, I donít doubt that you can use them as a magus, but that particular one spells out that it applies only to wizard evocation spells.
Lyn
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 08:06
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Forgive me for being pedantic, but you did include flanking in the dice roller while rolling, which makes it look like this +23 was including your flanking bonus, so I'd like to wait for Jayce to confirm where we go from here.
Ankou
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 08:30
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
I can see how that looks sketchy from your point of view !

I can break down the maths if you want.

Or reroll with flanking included.

This message was last edited by the player at 08:35, Mon 12 Mar 2018.

Lyn
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 09:39
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Go ahead and reroll all of your own attacks for the round which were mislabeled, including the critical please.  I'm happy with Titus' rolls as I have no reason to question them.
Ankou
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 09:55
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Well, that didnít go as planned.


09:53, Today: Ankou rolled 88,96,6 using 6d8+64,6d8+64,2d6 with rolls of 1,7,4,3,3,6,4,8,4,5,6,5,2,4.  Crit, reroll, bane.
09:52, Today: Ankou rolled 49,4 using 3d8+32,2d6 with rolls of 7,4,6,2,2.  Attack 1 damage.
09:51, Today: Ankou rolled 41 using 1d20+25 with rolls of 16.  Confirm crit .
09:50, Today: Ankou rolled 41 using 1d20+25 with rolls of 16.  Hero Point Attack.
09:50, Today: Ankou rolled 29 using 1d20+25 with rolls of 4.  Hasten Attack.
09:49, Today: Ankou rolled 27 using 1d20+18 with rolls of 9.  Full attack 2.
09:48, Today: Ankou rolled 35 using 1d20+25 with rolls of 10.  Full attack 1 (pa-3, flank+2).


Somehow I managed to get my second full-attack wrong again, but I doubt youíll ask me to reroll ;)

Total 155 damage.
Lyn
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 10:43
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
So, just to confirm.

Lyn takes 155 damage, is left on 40HP and it's her turn now?

Can you also please confirm your current HP as well? By my calculations, you've taken 246 damage, and have 6hp left.

This message was last edited by the player at 10:53, Mon 12 Mar 2018.

Ankou
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 11:07
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
I had counted 184, down to 68/252, but that was before we realised something was not supposed to be maximised.

For transparency, Ankou has resist cold and electricity 30, and DR2/-

Also Iím not super keen on you casting something different from what you originally did in round 1.

Note that all of that doesnít really matter, if I didnít finish you in round 1 youíll definitely finish me in round 2, wonít you?
Lyn
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 11:34
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Ankou:
<orange>
Lyn rolled 10 using 2d6 with rolls of 4,6.  Bane Damage Spellstrike.
Lyn rolled 37 using 1d20+28 with rolls of 9.  Spellstrike Damage.
Lyn rolled 26 using 1d20+20 with rolls of 6.  Critical Strike Spellstrike.</Red>
Lyn rolled 14 using 3d6 with rolls of 2,6,6.  Empowered Maximised Vampiric Touch
Lyn rolled 48 using 15d6 with rolls of 6,5,4,1,1,1,5,3,2,3,3,4,1,3,6.  Emp Int Shocking Grasp.
Lyn rolled 38,32,32,33,14 using 1d10+28,1d10+28,1d10+28,1d10+28,3d6 with rolls of 10,4,4,5,2,6,6.  Slashing Damage, Crit, Bane.
Lyn rolled 28,29,32 using 1d20+20,1d20+20,1d20+15 with rolls of 8,9,17.  Full Attack vs Ankou FFAC19.

So, 3 attacks hit, crit is (as you suspected) canceled through shenanigans.

So slashing damage is 38+32+32+14 (inc bane) -2 per attack through DR, total 110 damage.
Shocking grasp deals 48 -30 (resist), total 18 damage
Vampiric touch deals 56 damage
No critical therefore no Critical Strike (I reckon)

Total 184 damage, the Ankou is still standing - at 68/252
Let me know if I missed something.


After this, I cast Emp Vampiric Touch using Quicking Diamond instead of spell strike to keep the same actions and spells.

16:27, Today: Lyn rolled 42 using 10d6 with rolls of 4,3,3,6,6,5,1,6,3,5.  Empowered Vampiric Touch damage roll.


36+32+32+35 Slashing after DR = 131
14+10 Bane = 24
18 Shocking after Resist
42 Vampiric Touch
Total 215.  37 HP Remaining.

I already rolled based on you having 6hp left, though I can see I mis-calculated.  If you'd like, I'm happy to keep the same rolls, just swap the targets of the vampiric strike and normal attack, which is how I would of attacked assuming you had more then 6hp worth stealing.

This message was last updated by the player at 11:34, Mon 12 Mar 2018.

Lyn
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 11:40
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
The elf groaned as the giant's blade bit into her, but she wasn't going to let that stop her. A final slash, and the giant was left fallen on the floor, his strength flowing in her veins. Turning her attention towards the dinosaur behind her, his tough skin proved much harder to penetrate, though 1 hit was strong enough to penetrate his defense.

 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRST 
1                    1
2                    2
3                    3
4                    4
5                    5
6                    6
7                    7
8                    8
9                    9
10                    10
11                    11
12                    12
13           AAA      13
14        TT AAA      14
15        TTYAAA      15
16                    16
17                    17
18                    18
19                    19
20                    20
 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRST 

Legend:
Y = Lyna
T = Titus
A = Ankou


<tt>
   ROUND: 2 (35)
POSITION: K15
ACTIONS: Spell-Combat(Empowered Vampiric Touch)(Full Attack Piranha Strike)


HP: 85/154 (0 nonlethal)
AC: 34; FFAC : 15; Touch: 29
CMD: 32; FFCMD: 20; FFTAC: 10


   EFFECTS: Spell1: 2/140, Haste 3/3
   GEAR: - elven curved blade, robe, belt, headband, stone, boots, gem(Used), gem(Used), spellbook, free gear.
   USES: -  Boots 3/10, Gem 2/2, Spellbook 0/3, Lv1 Spells 1/6, lv2 0/6, lv3 1/5, lv4 1/4 lv5 2/2



Odod the Dodo:
Odod has chosen to hide in his master's pack and as such will not be represented on the map or taking actions.



Dice Rolls:
22:08, Today: Lyn rolled 29 using 1d20+25 with rolls of 4.  Concentration Check DC25.
22:07, Today: Lyn rolled 24,45 using 1d10+19,10d6 with rolls of 5,4,5,5,6,6,1,6,4,3,5.  Spellstrike Damage, Emp V T damage.
22:06, Today: Lyn rolled 20 using 1d20+18 with rolls of 2.  Spellcombat crit confir vs AC26.
22:05, Today: Lyn rolled 37 using 1d20+18 with rolls of 19.  Spellcombat Empowered Vampiric Touch vs Titus Ankou.
22:04, Today: Lyn rolled 20,17 using 1d20+18,1d20+13 with rolls of 2,4.  A2, A3 vs Titus AC26.
22:02, Today: Lyn rolled 30 using 1d10+21 with rolls of 9.  A1 Damage vs Ankou Titus.
22:01, Today: Lyn rolled 38 using 1d20+20 with rolls of 18.  Full Attack PStrike vs Ankou Titus AC21.


Summary:
Ankou takes 45 Magic damage from Vampiric touch, and 22 Slashing damage after DR for good measure.

Titus takes 30 Slashing Damage.

Lyn gains 37 + Ankou's con mod up to 45 temporary hitpoints.



OOC: I think that wraps you up? Now I just have to kill the t-rex :\

Ankou
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 12:02
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Bloody Magus and their ridiculously complicated action economy mechanics!
I still only half understand whatís going on, but I doubt it makes a difference overall, and I trust your maths.

Now Titus will try and grab a draw and run with it ;)
Lyn
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 12:07
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
The sad thing is... I rolled a magus thinking it would be more complicated then my martial, but not as confusing as a full caster LOL
Jayce the Tamer
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 15:10
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
So much happened while I was asleep!

Critical strike will stop if a critical hit gets stopped(critical strike is only possible when you score a critical hit. Ability drops it to a normal before damage is rolled so a crit never happened), none of that bane damage takes effect. None of it. Lyn, didn't you take 155 damage from Ankou? I see your life at 85 instead of -1 Your post shows a max of 154 hp.


as you made Ankou reroll mislabeled rolls, up to him on whether you must reroll. I'm okay with merely dropping the 2d6+2 damage.

This message was last edited by the player at 19:45, Mon 12 Mar 2018.

Ankou
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 15:24
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Iím getting more and more confused.

I would love to understand which attacks hit me (or Titus) and how much damage of each type I got from each...
Jayce the Tamer
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 15:53
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Ankou (msg # 43):

Vampiric touch temp hp doesn't stack. So 154 plus 42 is 196 - 155 (temp gone) 41 hp 41 plus 45 is 86. So good there.

But bane damage doesn't go through and if plus two was calculated into to hit and damage, that lowers as well.

I'm seeing about 34 less damage from first post alone.

Lastly, you can't switch targets. Your roller is what we go by. And AC matches intended victims. Therefore, AC 21 remains ankou, others remain titus.

This message was last edited by the player at 16:16, Mon 12 Mar 2018.

Ankou
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 19:14
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Since weíre here chatting, are you using Piranha Strike with the Elven Curve Blade?
Because the feat text says ďWhen wielding a light weaponĒ and the Elven curve blade specifically mentions it isnít light. I should know, Iím using one ;) unless of course youíre using a special kind that is lighter than the regular one.
Ankou
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 19:25
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Also, am I good to go?
And if so, am I still alive and how many hp does everybody have?

(on the bane thing, Iím fine with removing the 2d6 rolls and -2 from all damage, no need to reroll - I think all attacks still hit)

Do any of your spellcasting provoke aoo btw?
Jayce the Tamer
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 19:35
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Lyn does not have parinha strike nor is she using a light weapon.

Because maximised 56 vampiric didn't go though but rolled 42 damage vampiric did. The 68 life would be 82. The 82 in lieu of bane not working, 116. I'm seeing 30 more damage to Ankou in round two. Dropping him to  86. And the rest to Titus because striking a name through doesn't change die roller labeling.

If we aren't sure if an opponent is still up, ask and confirm with opponent after figuring out declared damage vs dealt damage before making the next round actions.

Before anyone moves, wait for Lyn to chime in, Lyn deserves a response to her actions. Otherwise retcon will happen and this should have been an easy two round fight.

This message was last edited by the player at 19:50, Mon 12 Mar 2018.

Ankou
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 19:41
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
 Maybe that was a typo then.
quote:
   ROUND: 1 (35)
POSITION: K15
ACTIONS: Spell-Combat(Dimension Door)(Full Attack Piranha Strike) [...]


 I thought that was how she got to such a high bonus to damage without strength or power attack.
Jayce the Tamer
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 19:58
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Ankou (msg # 48):

Round 2, you do get an aoo as casting defensively was not declared but rolled. and happens before Lyn's actions. Concentration roll is there but doesn't say casting defensively, nor does her action line say casting defensively. Lyn AC is 31 for this round as she also doesn't list fighting defensively. In action lines or rolls or mention penalties to hit anywhere. Lyn....

This message was last edited by the player at 20:02, Mon 12 Mar 2018.

Ankou
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 20:12
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Iíll wait for Lyn to confirm and comment before anything else.
Jayce the Tamer
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Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 20:14
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Ankou (msg # 50):

Thank you.
Lyn
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Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 03:01
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Things are getting more C by the minute...

Turn 1, critical strike was stopped by bracelet. To keep the same actions and rolls, I substituted a quickening diamond instead of the critical strike.

If you guys aren't happy with that, then the vampiric touch was never cast, and I died in Ankou's first round.

Secondly, rolls were made before Ankou and I determined more information. If we determine that round 1 damage was incorrect, I request a retcon to start of turn 2 so I can decide options appropriately.
Lyn
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Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 03:06
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
I always though P Strike could be used with any finessable weapon, so that's my mistake. On 4 attacks that's 32 damage less from turn 1

As for AC, it's naturally 34, unless Ankou has reduced my AC somehow. No need to right defensively.
Jayce the Tamer
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Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 03:21
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Lyn (msg # 53):
Jayce the Tamer
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Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 03:44
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Lyn:
Things are getting more C by the minute...

Turn 1, critical strike was stopped by bracelet. To keep the same actions and rolls, I substituted a quickening diamond instead of the critical strike.

If you guys aren't happy with that, then the vampiric touch was never cast, and I died in Ankou's first round.

Secondly, rolls were made before Ankou and I determined more information. If we determine that round 1 damage was incorrect, I request a retcon to start of turn 2 so I can decide options appropriately.

I'm totally ok with the substitution. That is the way it would work at a table. Your turn isn't done, you learn you can't do something because x, you do something else instead. Finish turn.


So you did sub swift spell vamp touch. It did do 42 damage. However, bane did not go through, I know 24 from damage dice comes off. Do any flat 2s also come off?

Secondly why are both of you taking an extra turn before confirming previous turn results with the other player?

The next mislabel, misroll, change die roller target, etc will be foul 1.

If Ankou is okay with you changing actions for round two, that is fine.

What I need now is breakdown of AC as a pm and damage dealt to ankou knowing his resistance and DR and that bane does not apply. Round 1 will not change.
Lyn
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Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 05:35
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn



I've been taking my turn after confirming what I thought was right to save time and try and wrap this up sooner, but I'll slow down from here to make sure things are right..

Damage:

Attack 1:
38 Slashing - 2DR - 8 PStrike = 28

Attack 2:
32 Slashing - 2DR - 8 PStrike = 22

Attack 3:
32 Slashing - 2DR - 8 PStrike = 22
48 Shocking - 30Res = 18

Bane from 3 attacks: 14. Rolled incorrectly at 1d6 per, but that's my fault.

Attack 4: Spellstrike from Quickened Vamp Touch
42 Vamp Touch damage
37 Slashing - 2DR - 8 PStrike = 27
10 Bane

Total 28+22+22+18+14+42+27+10 = 183 damage.

Bane will apply since I used a spellstrike with my weapon to deliver my Vampiric Touch?

If you guys are happy from here, I'll take turn 2?
Jayce the Tamer
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Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 05:51
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Lyn (msg # 56):


No the bane you brought in on your weapon won't go through in this fight. Your AC is 32. You did 161 in round 1. Ankou has 91 hp start of your round 2.

It's up to ankou if you get to redo round 2.

I'm glad you're trying to make things quick and easy, but as you are using things you don't have, it's slowing things down. And since you took your next turn without resolving your first turn, you're wanting to redo your next turn. Which is also slowing things down.


From now on please include your actions, in their order with a breakdown as a pm to me to prevent this in the future. Thanks in advance.
Lyn
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Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 06:17
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
PM
Jayce the Tamer
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Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 06:33
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Lyn (msg # 58):

This message was last edited by the player at 06:50, Tue 13 Mar 2018.

Lyn
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at 06:50
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
PM


Your call Ankou, are you happy with the corrected information? And am I good to take round 2 again based on the different information?
Ankou
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Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 08:11
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Sorry did you say AC32?

Because the whole reason I rerolled my R1 attack was that you said they didnít hit at AC33, and instead of adding +2 for flanking I rerolled; but if weíre there and my original attacks actually hit, I see no reason why I should use my new rolls.

My original rolls sent 202 damage - is Lyn still up after that?

Either way, Iím fine with your taking an entirely new round 2. Ankou has 91hp
Ankou
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Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 12:35
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
This is going to seem pernickety (and maybe moot as I donít know whether youíre still doing that in our alternate reality multiverse thread !) but did you ever draw that Quickening Diamond?
Iím sorry, Iím noticing all these things late as Iím doing my research to improve Josep for his next fight :)
Or is it that, as a costly material component for a spell, one doesnít need to first ďdrawĒ it, and itís considered part of grabbing components from the pouch as one normally would?
Iím actually hoping the latter.
Jayce the Tamer
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Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 17:09
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
In reply to Ankou (msg # 62):

I dont see why you cant place an expensive material component in your material component pouch, as long as you paid for it. Just like an actual 250 gp ruby or 1,000 gp bracelet.

196-202 would have been -6.
But also, you did add info into the roller that would not need to be there. Typing flanking, not adding the +2 then mentioning etc. I feel like we added a step we didn't need.


If you ever think someone is cheating, something suspect etc, contact a GM or ref. We will address it and move forward. The problem here is both parties moved forward(before resolving their round 1 you took your round 1) and now want take backs.


However, I have to side with the one who hit target AC and forced a reroll.

Lyn, do you have any tricks to stay afloat -6 hp?
Ankou
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Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 17:18
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Jayce:
I dont see why you cant place an expensive material component in your material component pouch, as long as you paid for it. Just like an actual 250 gp ruby or 1,000 gp bracelet.

 I like that ruling, and my guild master even more so.

 Cheating is such a strong word! I would go with overlooking some aspects of the rules (which may happen to anyone and in good faith).
 But yeah I agree that I rushed into my own round without fully understanding what happened to Ankou during Lynís turn.
Lyn
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Wed 14 Mar 2018
at 06:52
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
I feel like I came into this fight not quite ready, and I've made things worse for everyone. I don't have any tricks and am unconscious.

Lyn has 2612bp, used 0 hero points and lost
Ankou
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Wed 14 Mar 2018
at 07:45
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Titus will take a bite for good measure then.

Donít beat yourself up, most fights end up in a mess where one learns more about their build than they wanted to...

The Ankou has 2,965 BP and used 1 hero point.
Jayce the Tamer
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Wed 14 Mar 2018
at 14:54
Re: Duel #221: Ankou vs. Lyn
Winner Ankou used 1 hero point, gained 1 hero point and 871 BP.

Loser Lyn, no hero points used, no hero points gained. Gained 494 BP.


Jayce gains 697 BP as ref.