Posting would be simpler if we had to state what is in what hand at all times.
Now if Boa rules that my rod goes back to being wielded when I resume my human shape, I will have dropped it at the start of my move.

As for AMF, if I understand correctly, now that your spell has permanently dispelled all of my high level spells (which by RAW it couldn’t) you want to go back to RAW in which it blocks my low-level spells (which the errata version doesn’t). That sounds like a great deal for me, where do I sign?

As i said before, i'm perfectly fine staying with Antimagic field the way it was before it went back to RAW. You can still hit me with your low level spells if you're close enough, you can still stall the match with wall of force and pray you run out Source Severance.
That rule as well as many others were what we both walked into the match expecting to adhere to.

Boa's the one that wants to use the RAW antimagic. I'm personally against it. But she made her ruling on it. If you want to argue against it, be my guest. I'll be in your corner.
Changing things like that mid match has too much of an effect. I mean, you do realize that if we go back to full RAW Source Severance is going to last a full 10 minutes per caster level right? That's 110 minutes. We're only, what, 15 rounds in or something right now? I don't think even you can stall out that much time. At least pre full RAW you might stand a chance against it. You'd be shooting yourself in the foot going back to full RAW at this point.

I'm not in a full RAW mindset for this match. That's not what i agreed to. I can be, though it's not something i'm particularly keen on doing. But if the ref says that's what we're doing then i guess that's what we're doing. There aren't any rules in the arena for how a match is to proceed when the arena rules change during the middle of it so unless a higher power wants to step in of their own accord and lay down the word of god i guess i'll just begrudgingly accept it cause i'm not going to be the one to summon them again.

Let’s just keep the rules as they were when we walked in.
To be honest I’ve always found it incredibly unfair when rules are added during a match.

Boadicea, would you give a ruling on the rod/climbing issue before Latro’s 48h tick?

Rod would be in hand, best I can hand the item returns to it's original spot and would stop your ability to climb due to not having both hands free

 So do I drop it, or lose my turn?

You loose the action, your first move action and may continue from there

All right, Josep will drop the rod as a free action after his wasted move, and resume climbing.
He finishes his turn in M6,+2

Latro holds up two fingers. And readies himself for when the wall falls.



LP = Latro and Phantom Mount
T = Tiaca
a = Avi
J = Josep
" " = Black Tentacles (SR doesn't apply, difficult terrain)
b = Wall of Bone (Rises to +1, 10 feet tall)
~ = Obscuring Mist

   ROUND: 15 (Initiative: 19)
POSITION: O3/P4 (Mounted)
 ACTIONS: Readied ac5ion (Standard)

 HP: 131/225 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 28; FFAC: 21; Touch: 15
CMD: 35; FFCMD: 28; FFTAC: 10
DR 10/Magic, SR 26
Fortitude: 36; Reflex: 32; Will: 38
Immunities: Electricity, Cold, Fire, Disease, Undead Stuff

AC Boosts:  AC and CMD cap at 46
SKILL DCS: Perception DC36, Spellcraft DC31, Ride DC25

EFFECTS:
Aura of Evil
Aura of Despair (Out to 10 feet: -2 to all saving throws. Does not stack with saving throw reduction of Aura of Cowardice)
Aura of Cowardice (Out to 10 feet: Lose immunity to fear effects or -4 to saving throw vs fear effects if not immune)
DC 26 Will save to negate each aura, starting with Aura of Despair.
Choker Aura 1 (out to 120 feet: -2 to perception checks if good aligned.)
Choker Aura 2 (out to 30 feet: Shaken while within 30 feet if good aligned.)
DC 18 will to negate Choker auras. Aura 1 happens each round. Aura two happens once every 24 hours. (You know, in the event one match lasts for 14,400 rounds)
Boots of Haste (8/10) (Inactive)
Source Severance (16/33)
Wall of Bone (14/24 rounds)
Unfettered Shirt (10 minutes)
Fiendish Boon (8/13)
Obscuring Mist (8/9) -
Divine Favor (1/10) -


   GEAR: Falcata, O-Yori, Headband, Cloak, Choker, Shirt, Belt, Boots, Ioun Stone, Tattoo, Potion #1 x1, Potion #2 x1, Tools x3, Free Gear (ACP: 0, Load: Light)

   USES:
 - Spells: 1st 0/X, 2nd 0/X, 3rd 0/X, 4th 1/X,
 - SLAs: Drow 1/X, Fiendish Boon 1/X
 - SUs: Smite Good 0/X, ToC 4/X, Devastating Blast 1/X, Phantom Mount 1/X, Mythic Power 1/X
 - Other: Scroll #1, Scroll #2

 MINIONS:
 Tiaca, Latro’s Handmaiden
 Position: E5
HP: 29/63
AC 16 - TAC 16 - FFAC 10
CMD 19 - FFCMD 13 - FFTAC 10
FORT 6 - REF 6 - WILL 11
 Effect: None
 Gear: Cloak, Headband, Belt, Unholy Symbol, Scroll #3 x1, free gear (ACP 0, Load: Light)
 Actions: Total Defense (Standard), Draw Scroll #3 (Move)
USES:
 - Spells: 1st 1/X, 2nd 0/X, 3rd 2/X
 - Other: Scroll #4 1/1

 Avi, Tiaca’s Familiar
 Position: Where Tiaca is
HP: 23/31
AC 23 - TAC 21 - FFAC 14
CMD 14 - FFCMD 8 - FFTAC 12
FORT 2 - REF 5 - WILL 7
 Effect: None
 Gear: None (ACP 0, Load: Light)
 Actions: Be inside Tiaca’s backpack (free), Total Defense (Standard)


Phantom Mount - As Phantom Steed at CL13
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic...ells/p/phantom-steed

Actions: Readied Action


DICE ROLLS:



SUMMARY: Latro readies himself to strike.


OOC: -

  Josep balances precariously on the wall. He waives to Latro:
  "Are you waiting for something?"

 The wizard jumps on the other side. He lands softly some ten feet down and walks towards the mist.

 He then casts a spell, aimed at the cowering Tiaca.

  "Aaaww... missed you...." he shouts.
 


LP = Latro and Phantom Mount
T = Tiaca
a = Avi
J = Josep
" " = Black Tentacles (SR doesn't apply, difficult terrain)
b = Wall of Bone (Rises to +1, 10 feet tall)
~ = Obscuring Mist

<tt>
ROUND: 16 (37)
POSITION: I9
 ACTIONS:
 - Prescience (2)
 - Jump down and walk (move)
 - Cast Snowball (standard)

 HP: 199/221 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 33; FFAC: 19; Touch: 19
CMD: 35; FFCMD: 26; FFTAC: 11
Fort: 33; Reflex: 33; Will: 35

EFFECTS: - BT 15/17, AS 14/34, WoF 3/17

   GEAR: - Ring, Stone, Rod, Cloak, Headband, Helmet, 4 Diamonds, Ioun Stone, Bracer, Buckler, Tattoo, Scroll, Champion Belt, Free Gear,  (ACP - 0, Load - Light),
   USES: -  Spells 1st 1/X, 2nd 0/X, 3rd 2/X, 4th 5/X, 5th 3/X, 6th 0/X, 7th 3/X, 8th 3/X, 9th 0/X, scroll 1/1; diamond 4/4, Prescience 6/X, Foretell 2/17

MINIONS:
none

DICE ROLLS:
13:49, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 2 using 1d20 with rolls of 2.  prescience roll.
13:50, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 31 using 1d20+29 with rolls of 2.  free perception.

13:50, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 31 using 1d20+25 with rolls of 6.  acrobatics DC15 to land softly .

14:00, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 20 using 1d20+15 with rolls of 5.  Snowball vs Tiaca.
14:00, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 38 using 1d100 with rolls of 38.  miss chance .

SUMMARY:
Josep jumps down, goes into the mist, and throws a snowball at Tiaca. He unfortunately misses.

ooc: SO I couldn't help but notice that you haven't attacked me or anyone else in 4 rounds. Are you aiming for a foul or are we just over stalling rules?

</quote>

Well, as it just so happens, through no fault of my own, i am incapable of attacking you. For some reason, someone keep putting walls in front of me to try and stop me. not my fault i cant break through said walls. I've done what i can to prepare to attack you once we wall is down, via readied actions and what not but seeing as you want to play coward, that leaves me in the predicament i'm in.
But, i do believe me summing my steed to move me into a position to anti-magic your spells away, put me in a position to threaten you, and make it to where you had to roll a concentration check to avoid taking an AoO from me counts as an attack.
If not, certainly a readied action to do the same when the wall goes away does.

Thanks for posting that Latro, unfortunately for you Josep is correct you are in deed in volation of the rule, I was remembering it wrong and was counting the steed Summoning as your round count reset however the rule is specific and the steed is unable to attack so does not fit the criteria

so that move action perception i took against the wall and the readied action i made don't count as attempted attacks? cause i'm pretty sure a readied action to try and attack counts as an attempted attack. anyways, i'll get my next post up. just remember that josep spent 7 rounds not attacking me and i let him off the hook. i would expect the same courtesy from the one who's actively trying to make it to where i am unable to even perform an attack against a foe at all.

I will also add that i had begun rolling an attack as a swift action in the turn i summoned my steed but remembered i was unable to actually perform that attack because my turn was done by that point. but the rolls do exist. they were just an action Latro was unable to perform due to how the arena works with summoned creatures.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:28, Sat 21 July 2018.

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 301):

Just do a move action perception to find him, why try and get fancy just follow the rule.

well, namely because the rules say at least a move action. And a readied action is a standard action. considerably more than a move action. I don't think i'm in violation of the rules on this one. It's not about being fancy. It's the fact that i already know where josep is on the map so a perception check to find him is no good. Perception against a hidden foe like a wall of force however, should count. and a readied action to get close to josep so i can attack him should also count.

Latro casts farie fire upon the wall again so he knows for certain when the wall has fallen.

Tiaca moves towards Josep until she's within 10 feet of him then blast him with burning hands.
Avi pops out of her master's backpack and gives Josep a good spraying with her skunk powers.



LP = Latro and Phantom Mount
T = Tiaca
a = Avi
J = Josep
" " = Black Tentacles (SR doesn't apply, difficult terrain)
b = Wall of Bone (Rises to +1, 10 feet tall)
~ = Obscuring Mist

   ROUND: 16 (Initiative: 19)
POSITION: O3/P4 (Mounted)
 ACTIONS: Use Faerie Fire SLA on Wall of Force (Standard)

 HP: 131/225 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 28; FFAC: 21; Touch: 15
CMD: 35; FFCMD: 28; FFTAC: 10
DR 10/Magic, SR 26
Fortitude: 36; Reflex: 32; Will: 38
Immunities: Electricity, Cold, Fire, Disease, Undead Stuff

AC Boosts:  AC and CMD cap at 46
SKILL DCS: Perception DC36, Spellcraft DC31, Ride DC25

EFFECTS:
Aura of Evil
Aura of Despair (Out to 10 feet: -2 to all saving throws. Does not stack with saving throw reduction of Aura of Cowardice)
Aura of Cowardice (Out to 10 feet: Lose immunity to fear effects or -4 to saving throw vs fear effects if not immune)
DC 26 Will save to negate each aura, starting with Aura of Despair.
Choker Aura 1 (out to 120 feet: -2 to perception checks if good aligned.)
Choker Aura 2 (out to 30 feet: Shaken while within 30 feet if good aligned.)
DC 18 will to negate Choker auras. Aura 1 happens each round. Aura two happens once every 24 hours. (You know, in the event one match lasts for 14,400 rounds)
Boots of Haste (8/10) (Inactive)
Source Severance (17/33)
Wall of Bone (15/24 rounds)
Unfettered Shirt (10 minutes)
Fiendish Boon (9/13)
Obscuring Mist (9/9) - disappears at the start of my next turn
Divine Favor (2/10) -


   GEAR: Falcata, O-Yori, Headband, Cloak, Choker, Shirt, Belt, Boots, Ioun Stone, Tattoo, Potion #1 x1, Potion #2 x1, Tools x3, Free Gear (ACP: 0, Load: Light)

   USES:
 - Spells: 1st 0/X, 2nd 0/X, 3rd 0/X, 4th 1/X,
 - SLAs: Drow 1/X, Fiendish Boon 1/X
 - SUs: Smite Good 0/X, ToC 4/X, Devastating Blast 1/X, Phantom Mount 1/X, Mythic Power 1/X
 - Other: Scroll #1, Scroll #2

 MINIONS:
 Tiaca, Latro’s Handmaiden
 Position: E5 to G8
HP: 29/63
AC 12 - TAC 12 - FFAC 10
CMD 15 - FFCMD 13 - FFTAC 10
FORT 6 - REF 6 - WILL 11
 Effect: None
 Gear: Cloak, Headband, Belt, Unholy Symbol, Scroll #3 x1, free gear (ACP 0, Load: Light)
 Actions: Move to G8 (Move), Cast Burning Hands (Standard)
USES:
 - Spells: 1st 2/X, 2nd 0/X, 3rd 2/X
 - Other: Scroll #4 1/1

 Avi, Tiaca’s Familiar
 Position: Where Tiaca is
HP: 23/31
AC 19 - TAC 17 - FFAC 14
CMD 10 - FFCMD 8 - FFTAC 12
FORT 2 - REF 5 - WILL 7
 Effect: None
 Gear: None (ACP 0, Load: Light)
 Actions: Remove self from Tiaca's Backpack (Move), Spray Josep with Musk ability (Standard)


Phantom Mount - As Phantom Steed at CL13
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic...ells/p/phantom-steed

Actions: Be a horse thing (Free)


DICE ROLLS:

07:56, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 13 using 1d20+9 with rolls of 4.  Avi Musk ranged touch vs Josep TAC19.

07:55, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 9 using 1d20+5 with rolls of 4.  Burning hands vs Reflex DC33.

07:54, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 6 using 5d4 with rolls of 2,1,1,1,1.  Tiaca burning hands.


SUMMARY: Makes the wall visible, Tiaca blast Josep with lighting, Avi blasts josep with skunk spray. Josep takes 3 fire damage and avoids Avi's skunk spray.


OOC: As a side note, i am very hung over as i'm writing this so there may be some typos or the like in this post.

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 303):

As you refuse to listen I am giving you a foul will have to look up if you have had one already, I do not have time right now.  Your ready action had nothing about attacking Josep so it does not count either and the wall is not a foe it is neutral

Cool. So then we've acknowledge that josep has put me into a position where i have no choice but to accrue fouls. Wonderful.

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 305):

Just because you can see him on the map, which is required by hidden on map rules, does not mean you can see him.
He is in Tiaca's mist on the other side of your wall of bones.  No where does it say you have to be able to not see them to use the move action to fullfil the obligation.  So no you do it to yourself.

You could start digging ;)

Or you could just stop summing Walls of Force. That would be cool too.

a side note i forgot to mention in my post, every space that burning hands passed through that was covered in obscuring mist is no longer coved in obscuring mist because it has been burned away. Both Tiaca and Ave are no longer concealed. Nor would they be at the start of Latro's next turn when the mist expires.

Question for the ref, what kind of walls are the walls in the arena made of this time around, what's their hardness, and whats their HP. I honestly think i may have a better time cutting through those at this point than a wall of force.

Finally...
Standard is standard masonry 450 HP hardness of 8

  Josep sees Tiaca appearing in the mist, as she has burnt a good part of it away:
  "You are a bold one, aren't you? If you tire of the corpse, come see us at the Alliance... I may have something for you."

 The wizard turns his back on Tiaca and takes a few step.
 He turns around and casts a minor cantrip. Tiaca receives a jolt of electricity. Nothing big, just a tease.




LP = Latro and Phantom Mount
T = Tiaca
a = Avi
J = Josep
" " = Black Tentacles (SR doesn't apply, difficult terrain)
b = Wall of Bone (Rises to +1, 10 feet tall)
~ = Obscuring Mist

<tt>
ROUND: 17 (37)
POSITION: K9
 ACTIONS:
 - move to K9 (move)
 - Cast Jolt on Tiaca (Standard)

 HP: 196/221 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 33; FFAC: 19; Touch: 19
CMD: 35; FFCMD: 26; FFTAC: 11
Fort: 33; Reflex: 33; Will: 35

EFFECTS: - BT 16/17, AS 15/34, WoF 4/17

   GEAR: - Ring, Stone, Cloak, Headband, Helmet, 4 Diamonds, Ioun Stone, Bracer, Buckler, Tattoo, Scroll, Champion Belt, Free Gear,  (ACP - 0, Load - Light),
   USES: -  Spells 1st 1/X, 2nd 0/X, 3rd 2/X, 4th 5/X, 5th 3/X, 6th 0/X, 7th 3/X, 8th 3/X, 9th 0/X, scroll 1/1; diamond 4/4, Prescience 6/X, Foretell 2/17

MINIONS:
none

DICE ROLLS:
11:56, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 1 using 1d3 with rolls of 1.  jolt damage.
11:56, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 17 using 1d20+15 with rolls of 2.  Jolt vs Tiaca.

SUMMARY:
 Josep steps back and casts a minor cantrip. Tiaca takes 1 point of electricity damage.

ooc: come on, we're halfway there!

Bless, 450 hp? Nah, let's kill the wall of force instead

"I've had quite enough of this."Latro growls, gripping his weapon in both hands and begins slashing at the part of the Wall of Force that's coated in Faerie Fire. Though the wall has more hardness than a vast majority of things he's encountered, his weapon give him a greater advantage in destroying it, cutting past a majority of the Wall's hardness. Within a matter of seconds, the wall has been obliterated. Latro kicks his steed and it flies off, moving next to Josep once more. "Hello, again. Have you another wall for me or shall we finally end this farce?"

Tiaca, emboldened by her master's presence, ignores Josep's offer. "The fact that you refuse to fight my master head on is proof enough that i serve the correct guild leader." Moving forward, she drops her slingshot and pulls a knife, intent on doing at least something.

Avi, riding on her shoulders, attempts to spray Josep once more with it's skunk powers





LP = Latro and Phantom Mount
T = Tiaca
a = Avi
J = Josep
" " = Black Tentacles (SR doesn't apply, difficult terrain)
b = Wall of Bone (Rises to +1, 10 feet tall)
~ = Obscuring Mist

   ROUND: 17 (Initiative: 19)
POSITION: O3/P4 (Mounted) to
 ACTIONS: Guide horse with knees (Non-action), Reactivate Haste boots (Swift), Full Power attack on Faerie Fire-ed part of the Wall of Force (Full)

 HP: 131/225 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 29; FFAC: 21; Touch: 16
CMD: 36; FFCMD: 28; FFTAC: 10
DR 10/Magic, SR 26
Fortitude: 36; Reflex: 33; Will: 38
Immunities: Electricity, Cold, Fire, Disease, Undead Stuff

AC Boosts: Haste: +1 Dodge AC, +1 Dodge Reflex.  AC and CMD cap at 46
SKILL DCS: Perception DC36, Spellcraft DC31, Ride DC25

EFFECTS:
Aura of Evil
Aura of Despair (Out to 10 feet: -2 to all saving throws. Does not stack with saving throw reduction of Aura of Cowardice)
Aura of Cowardice (Out to 10 feet: Lose immunity to fear effects or -4 to saving throw vs fear effects if not immune)
DC 26 Will save to negate each aura, starting with Aura of Despair.
Choker Aura 1 (out to 120 feet: -2 to perception checks if good aligned.)
Choker Aura 2 (out to 30 feet: Shaken while within 30 feet if good aligned.)
DC 18 will to negate Choker auras. Aura 1 happens each round. Aura two happens once every 24 hours. (You know, in the event one match lasts for 14,400 rounds)
Boots of Haste (9/10)
Source Severance (18/33)
Wall of Bone (16/24 rounds)
Unfettered Shirt (10 minutes)
Fiendish Boon (10/13)
Divine Favor (3/10) -


   GEAR: Falcata, O-Yori, Headband, Cloak, Choker, Shirt, Belt, Boots, Ioun Stone, Tattoo, Potion #1 x1, Potion #2 x1, Tools x3, Free Gear (ACP: 0, Load: Light)

   USES:
 - Spells: 1st 0/X, 2nd 0/X, 3rd 0/X, 4th 1/X,
 - SLAs: Drow 2/X, Fiendish Boon 1/X
 - SUs: Smite Good 0/X, ToC 6/X, Devastating Blast 1/X, Phantom Mount 1/X, Mythic Power 1/X
 - Other: Scroll #1, Scroll #2

 MINIONS:

Phantom Mount - As Phantom Steed at CL13
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic...ells/p/phantom-steed

Actions: Air walk to I8/J9 (Move), Total Defence (Standard)

 Tiaca, Latro’s Handmaiden
 Position: G8 to K8
HP: 28/63
AC 12 - TAC 12 - FFAC 10
CMD 15 - FFCMD 13 - FFTAC 10
FORT 6 - REF 6 - WILL 11
 Effect: None
 Gear: Cloak, Headband, Belt, Unholy Symbol, Scroll #3 x1, free gear (ACP 0, Load: Light)
 Actions: Drop slingshot (Free), Move to K8 and Draw Dagger (Move), Attack Josep with Dagger (Standard)
USES:
 - Spells: 1st 2/X, 2nd 0/X, 3rd 2/X
 - Other: Scroll #4 1/1

 Avi, Tiaca’s Familiar
 Position: Where Tiaca is to J8
HP: 23/31
AC 19 - TAC 17 - FFAC 14
CMD 10 - FFCMD 8 - FFTAC 12
FORT 2 - REF 5 - WILL 7
 Effect: None
 Gear: None (ACP 0, Load: Light)
 Actions: Spray Josep with Musk ability (Standard)



DICE ROLLS:

07:31, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 17 using 1d20+15 with rolls of 2.  ride check to guide horse with knees DC5(non-action).

07:13, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 36,34,26,37 using 1d20+28,1d20+28,1d20+23,1d20+18 with rolls of 8,6,3,19.  Full power attack vs Faerie fire part of wall of force AC0 or less.
07:17, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 37,10,33 using 1d8+32,3d6,6d8 with rolls of 5,4,4,2,5,8,7,5,5,3.  First hit damage + Channel ToC on hit. Physical, fire, negative.
07:18, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 33,8 using 1d8+32,3d6 with rolls of 1,3,4,1.  second hit damage - Physical, fire.
07:18, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 38,7 using 1d8+32,3d6 with rolls of 6,3,1,3.  third hit - Physical, fire.
07:19, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 33,13 using 1d8+32,3d6 with rolls of 1,1,6,6.  fourth hit - physical, fire.


08:02, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 19 using 1d20+3 with rolls of 16.  Tiaca dagger attack vs Josep. nat 20 or bust.
08:03, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 23 using 1d20+9 with rolls of 14.  Avi Musk ranged touch vs Josep TAC19.
08:05, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 4 using 1d20+1 with rolls of 3.  Musk fort save vs Josep, nat 20 or bust.
08:06, Today: Latro Dectus rolled 2 using 1d4 with rolls of 2.  rounds of sickening.


SUMMARY: Latro deals a grand total of 172 damage to the wall of force after hardness, destroying it. He then spurs his steed and finds himself next to Josep once more. Latro's Source severance prematurely ends the Black Tentacle effect in the spaces his horse lands in and around.

Tiaca, moves in on josep, provoking an AoO from him and swings at him with her dagger, missing completly.
Avi jumps off Tiaca, moves to her own space, and shoots josep with her Musk ability. Josep is able to resist the brunt of it but is still sickened for 2 rounds.

OOC: It should be noted that the only reason Latro was able to get through the wall of force is because we're still operating under the previous rules for how adamantine weapons ignore hardness and not the RAW version.

I only count 104 damage to the wall.
Touch of Corruption doesn't damage objects.
Most of the fire damage is negated by hardness (the fire damage is not adamantine fire)

 Boadicea, could you double check my maths and Latro's ?

As previously stated, force effects takes full damage from elemental attacks.



As for touch of corruption

Nowhere in the touch of corruption ability does it say that my damage must be directed at a living creature. It just says i can cause damage.

- Force Effects take full damage from elemental sources (not half), but hardness still applies.

- Touch of Corruption reads "causing terrible wounds to open on those he touches". It doesn't say it needs to be directed at a living creature, but it implies it needs to be directed at a creature.
 I agree it is not a straightforward answer, which is why I'm asking Boadicea for a ruling.

EDIT:
there's a FAQ here: http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9usb
 which clarifies (only a little) how negative damage works.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:13, Sun 22 July 2018.