Sorry I thought that was my 48h clock ticking. All good then. I’ll wait.

That is 48 hrs, Latro is standing in J10, total defense as his standard action.
 Tiaca's spell will hit the Force wall which is only at a CL 12 strength at the moment

Hold on i need to dispute the ref a second.

about the wall:
Yeah, looks like i messed up a bit there. However,
Considering the wall of force has its caster level reduced appropriately, would the length of the wall not also be reduced? Possibly even enough to allow latro through? IDK how long or tall this wall is so thats an important question right now. If i had the choice it would be to reduce its length on latro's side so that maybe latro would be able to get through.

about tiaca:
The wall of fire should not fail and Tiaca should not need a UMD check to cast it. Explanation in a private line below.
Tiaca's lighting bolt was highly dependent on Latro removing the wall of force. If he ended up face planting, then Tiaca just wouldn't have cast that spell.

On 48 hours:
I'll accept my 48 hour hit, but having Tiaca and her familiar take Full defense is what should be done seeing as my entier turn was reset back to Latro's move action and tiaca's actions only happen after latro takes his.
I will say however that the new God of War game is to blame for my absence and it is by far the best God of War to date.

The wall was under dimensioned for its caster level (thank the gods).
In any case, only the portion of wall that is within the anti magic field would be reduced.
And that portion is much smaller than what a CL12 wall of force can be.

Latro is correct I missed the Wall of Fire when I glanced at Adept's spell list so Tiaca's wall is good.

In reply to Boadicn ea (msg # 69):
All good then, shall I carry on ?

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 70):

Yes, you are good to continue

Pm

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 72):

your summons are ended as the CL dropped below the actual needed to cast the spell (summon monster gives no SR so at 1/2 CL drop still below CL needed) or by the reading of the Antimagic Field summons entering get no save if the spell is cast and a summons is within AoE then it gets a save.

But they didn’t enter. We went through that with the brandersnatch.
If the field is brought to them, their SR applies.

Again, I wont press the issue, but I thought the rules as written were quite clear.

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 74):



I don't know whats not clear, it even states once the field goes away.  I only remember Jayce trying to summon a creature into field not any summon creature move into it.

I was referring to this part:


 I think this should apply if the caster of the antimagic field moves the field into an area occupied by a summoned creature with SR. I don’t think it matters whether you cast I straight on their face, or cast it first and then move to them.

 But you think it shouldn’t. Fair enough, you’re the ref.

  Josep casually answers Latro's rhetorical question:
  "Why yes, evidently..." he smirks like never before, and gets on with his casting.

 First he moves and casts a summoning spell again.
 Then he conjures black tentacles to fill the other side of the wall.
 He tells the Erinyes to shoot Latro.

 They do, but his armour is thick... he still takes a few arrows to the knees.

 Pedro catches up.

  "This is not going to be quick..."

 

L = Latro
T = Tiaca
a = Ave
J = Josep
P = Pedro
Je5-7 = Erinyes
" " = Black Tentacles (SR doesn't apply, difficult terrain)

ROUND: 1 (37)
POSITION: L17 to N12
 ACTIONS:
 - prescience roll: 14 (free)
 - move to N12 (move)
 - cast Black Tentacles on bottom left of L8 (standard)
 - cast quickened Summon Monster 7 with quickening diamond (swift)
 - talk the furies (free)

 HP: 212/221 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 32; FFAC: 19; Touch: 18
CMD: 34; FFCMD: 26; FFTAC: 11
Fort: 31; Reflex: 30; Will: 33

EFFECTS: - Summon Monster 7: 1/17, WoF 2 2/17, Black Tentacles 1/17

   GEAR: - Ring, Stone, Rod, Cloak, Headband, Helmet, 4 Diamonds, Ioun Stone, Bracer, Buckler, Tattoo, Scroll, Champion Belt, Free Gear,  (ACP - 0, Load - Light),
   USES: -  Spells 1st 0/X, 2nd 0/X, 3rd 0/X, 4th 1/X, 5th 1/X, 6th 0/X, 7th 2/X, 8th 1/X, 9th 0/X, scroll 1/1; diamond 2/4, Prescience 2/X

MINIONS:
Pedro the improved familiar
 Position: L14 to M12-1
hp 110/110
AC 26 - TAC 10 - FFAC 26
CMD 20 - FFCMD20 - FFTAC 10
FORT 17 - REF 15 - WILL 21 - SR22
 Effect: None
 Actions: Double Move (burrow)

The Furies (Erinyes)
Je5 summoned in M5
Je6 summoned in N6
Je7 summoned in N4

 HP: 112/112
 AC: 23; FFAC: 17; Touch: 16
CMD: 33; FFCMD: 27; FFTAC: 10
Fort: 24; Reflex: 23; Will: 18; SR19
Effect: Augment Summoning, True Seeing
Actions: Full Attack Latro

Minion HD cap: (3x9) +17 = 44/68

DICE ROLLS:
20:50, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 14 using 1d20 with rolls of 14.  Prescience Roll.
20:58, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 3 using 1d3 with rolls of 3.  Summon 1d3 Erinyes (SMVII)

21:00, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 33,17,14 using D20+14,D20+14,d20+9 with rolls of 19,3,5.  Je7 full-attack Latro.
21:00, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 25,33,28 using D20+14,D20+14,d20+9 with rolls of 11,19,19.  Je6 full-attack Latro.
20:59, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 27,33,10 using D20+14,D20+14,d20+9 with rolls of 13,19,1.  Je5 full-attack Latro.

21:02, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 13 using 1d8+6 with rolls of 7.  Je7 damage.
21:02, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 8 using 1d8+6 with rolls of 2.  Je6 damage.
21:02, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 9 using 1d8+6 with rolls of 3.  Je5 damage.
 - Total 30 damage from Erinyes arrows
 (I didn't roll the fire damage as your immune...)

21:27, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 29 using 1d20+22 with rolls of 7.  Black Tentacles Grapple Check.
21:28, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 8 using 1d6+4 with rolls of 4.  BT damage.
 - Tiaca is grappled and takes 8 damage ; Familiar is grappled and takes 8 damage ;  Latro isn't.

SUMMARY:
 Josep moves, summons Erinyes to the other side of the wall through some trickery.
 He also conjures Black Tentacles to the other side of the wall, using the same trickery.
 Tiaca and Ave are grappled and take 8 damage ; Latro is not affected.
 The Erinyes fire their arrows, they deal 30 damage to Latro.
 Pedro follows his master, burrowing like bugs bunny.

 
 ooc: is the duration of your antimagic field correct? I would have thought it be 33 rounds total. I'm wondering how low at most this may last...

You are correct it is 33 rounds, Latro please fix in next post.

Josep can you PM me how you have line of effect on JE6&7.

 pm

Pm
This message was lightly edited by the player at 23:15, Tue 12 June 2018.

The spell he is using is not Antimagic Field just acts similar to, also unless you have something to back up your assumption 6&7 are not in your LoE there is a wall between you

Can’t I draw a line from the bottom left corner of my square to the bottom left corner of these squares ?
The squares have cover, but they’re not untargetable.

I think I didn’t realise that they edge of the wall blocks line of effect.
And the description says I need line of efffect to each square.

Can I change the summoning squares to M3 & M4 and have them 5ft step into current position ?

Doesn’t make a difference to anything in my turn.

Sorry no your turn has been posted no new information has been brought forth due to an oversight/error by your opponent that would effect them

Fair enough. Does that mean only 1 Erinyes appears, or that the whole spell fizzles?

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 85):

The one still appears

Well then, that’s only 9 damage to Latro instead of the 30.

Remind me how josep has line of effect through a wall of force in the first place when wall of force blocks line of effect.


This message was last edited by the player at 10:58, Wed 13 June 2018.

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 88):

He does have Line of Effect to JE5 and Black Tentacles