Second Out of Character Thread.   Posted by OOC.Group: 0
Jennor Elan
 player, 249 posts
 I am a Flame in the Void!
 Pursuing the Heron Mark!
Wed 24 Mar 2010
at 23:14
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Well the easiest way to boost a Trolloc would be to give it levels in Armsman or at least Warrior (NPC class).

The same could be true for Fades, though I seem to recall that the Fade is fairly strong in the book.

Remember that a Fade is deadly to non-channelers who have to fight it in melee.  But a Channeler is supposed to be much more than a match for any Fade (Fades are wary of Aes Sedai for this reason).

The thing is, once higher level channelers get together (especially linked) they can really pulverize a battlefield and neutralize any serious individual opposition.  Basically it takes enemy channelers to really level the battlefield.

But mundanes like Jennor, Xander, Rai'el, Ahlandra etc. they still tend to take down enemies 1 foe at a time.  They don't have "battlefield clearing" damage dealing abilities (even a Blademaster's Whirlwind Attack isn't going to bring down that many foes in one go).
Thayna Dabei
 player, 155 posts
 Domani Seductress
 White Tower Accepted
Wed 24 Mar 2010
at 23:15
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Oh rhanks, you for that bit of news  The enemies will get more powerful. However, it is true that Trollocs took many Two Rivers arrow hits to kill them and Myrddral were Very Very difficult to kill with their Special abilities.
Darek Halchov
 player, 1169 posts
 Tairen Wanderer
 Try the fish
Wed 24 Mar 2010
at 23:15
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
I think the Trollocs are a good base race, but need classes added.

The bonuses are totalled together and added to channeler levels when one channeler compares the strength of another. It isn't used as any sort of bonus for channeling, like overchanneling would be.
Xander Bakura
 player, 595 posts
 Golden Eyes
 Warder
Wed 24 Mar 2010
at 23:25
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Boosting the Fades's stats and the Trollocs would work as well. Give the Trollocs a Rage ability. Perhaps a Channeling Fade. Fades are nasty anyways.

Course you take say my char at level 20:
Woodsman 2/Wolfbrother 10/Warder 8.

It would take quite a bit of damage to take me down, especially with the Bond.

So of course most warriors take 1-2 enemies down in a round maybe, but channelers who get taxed or run out of weaves are pretty screwed....just before that happens everything is usually dead anyways and with what...5 channelers in the group...the warriors can stand there and do nothing. A lot of fun there :P
Gamemaster
 GM, 474 posts
Wed 24 Mar 2010
at 23:39
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
 Given the circumstaqnce of this last encounter, you had time to prepare, but without the time to prepare, things could be entirely different.
Darek Halchov
 player, 1170 posts
 Tairen Wanderer
 Try the fish
Wed 24 Mar 2010
at 23:43
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Very quickly different. They ran into a trap with no escape. Even without Immolating the Fade, the fireballs would have taken care of them
Jennor Elan
 player, 251 posts
 I am a Flame in the Void!
 Pursuing the Heron Mark!
Wed 24 Mar 2010
at 23:46
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Gamemaster:
Given the circumstaqnce of this last encounter, you had time to prepare, but without the time to prepare, things could be entirely different.

That is very true and we have the advantage of terrain.

A Channeler's best advantage is to strike from a distance.  If Trollocs or worse Fades manage to close the distance to get within easy melee range (and surround/flank everyone) then things take a turn for the worse.  One can't risk an area effect weave when the point of impact is "ground zero" for the PCs.
Jennor Elan
 player, 252 posts
 I am a Flame in the Void!
 Pursuing the Heron Mark!
Wed 24 Mar 2010
at 23:48
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Just how old is Xander by the way?  I was thinking that everyone was in their early 20s or perhaps mid 20s at the most but perhaps I've been misled by the portraits.

Are there PCs much older than say 25 (and perhaps look it)?
Xander Bakura
 player, 598 posts
 Golden Eyes
 Warder
Wed 24 Mar 2010
at 23:59
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Never thought about it really. Probably late twenties/early thirties. I have him down as 'Unknown'. With all his scars, mannerisms and being dirty/bloody half the time someone may have a hard time knowing...
Rai'el
 player, 719 posts
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 00:00
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Melina does not look old, Raiel does not look that old but she us deeply tanned hard muscles, and her faces seems abit older o,r more mature.
Azara
 GM, 916 posts
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 00:12
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Azara just turned 18
Thayna Dabei
 player, 156 posts
 Domani Seductress
 White Tower Accepted
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 00:20
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Thayna looks to in early twentoes but her aging had already been slowed.
Melina
 player, 587 posts
 Wise One Apprentice
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 04:07
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
I remember when  Rand first travel using skimming when he left the Aiel lands to intercept Couladin. He didn'7't know where he was going and whe Avienda gated to Seanchan lands not know where it was only knowing where she is.

Any thoughts about that?
Cayl
 player, 57 posts
 son of Paryn son of Leyn
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 12:05
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Well that was the major difference in their usage.  Skim you have to know where you want to go very well, gate where you currently are OR only be going a short distance.  And you can gain knowledge of where you are, by having just come in from a gateway, which was a fun caveat.  They say that since you're perception was so much better due to holding the one power.


And Cayl is over a century, being Ogier, Dalir is up there too I'm sure.
Darek Halchov
 player, 1173 posts
 Tairen Wanderer
 Try the fish
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 12:51
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
They've always said in the books that for gating directly from place to place, you need to know where you are, but not where you are going, such as Aviendha gating half way across the world.

It was a very short time if the One Power was held, or gated into. Longer, a couple hours I think, if just known mundanely.

Checked the weave description and they have it the same way. You must have some sense of the destinatoin and know the starting point well.

In Aviendha's case, I imagine it was something like, as far away from here (only thinking of the one planet or world) which was the other side of the world.

The skimming weave seems for low powered channelers who can open a gateway, but not connect two points directly. It could also be used to quickly get away from some place you haven't had time to study, I suppose.

This message was last edited by the player at 13:01, Thu 25 Mar 2010.

Nerissa din Nelyn
 player, 277 posts
 Atha'an Miere Accepted
 Nice porcelain jewelry!
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 17:19
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Gamemaster:
Everyone gets:

3 Stat Points to use where you want at 1 for 1
10 Skill points to use in character related skills.
Spot and Listen are everyman skill for all classes.

Sorry to be behind.

Are Stat points the same as Ability points? So Nerissa can go from 17 to 20 in INT?
Xander Bakura
 player, 602 posts
 Golden Eyes
 Warder
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 17:23
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Nerissa din Nelyn:
Gamemaster:
Everyone gets:

3 Stat Points to use where you want at 1 for 1
10 Skill points to use in character related skills.
Spot and Listen are everyman skill for all classes.

Sorry to be behind.

Are Stat points the same as Ability points? So Nerissa can go from 17 to 20 in INT?


3 Stat points is yes, 3 extra ability points.
The skill points are bonus SP.

Though Id on't like the fact that Listen/Spot are everyman skills. In some ways, makes sense but for some classes-they should have more of a edge (like Woodsman, Algai, perhaps Armsman)
Darek Halchov
 player, 1176 posts
 Tairen Wanderer
 Try the fish
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 17:41
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
I agree with the Listen and Spot being everyman skills. Think those classes should get bonuses, especially woodsman.
Xander Bakura
 player, 603 posts
 Golden Eyes
 Warder
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 17:44
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Well I'm also at +14 Listen/+16 Spot.
Blooded (+2 Spot), Alertness (+2 Spot/Listen) for some bumps.

I'm not complaing. Crap, +14 L/+16 Spot is probably highest in the party lol.
Hide 13/MS 13. I could sneak up on myself...
Darek Halchov
 player, 1177 posts
 Tairen Wanderer
 Try the fish
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 17:53
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
LOL yeah. I put 5 each into Spot and Listen, making them +10
Xander Bakura
 player, 604 posts
 Golden Eyes
 Warder
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 18:06
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
I only get +2 from my wisdom. 10 Ranks. Always maxing Hide/MS/Spot/Listen.

Hey who else will make Rai look bad? :)
Gamemaster
 GM, 475 posts
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 19:16
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Working on special skills and feats for classes.  I feel 1 feat every 3 is fairly slow considering how slow Level raises are, and how many feats one has to take when you need 4 others before you can take the one you want.

On another note  Character need to respond to Xander in answere to his spots and sense motives done before him leaving and then after his returning.

As for success if his Sense motive on your PC if his roll is less than 15 then he does not sense your emotions, which mainly will be after he comes back.

Send you posts here to the new OOC III thread

Before leaving

Azara: Spot 29, Sense Motive 12 Plus bomus for bond so you make it.
Ahlandra si Bashan Kellan: Spot 25, Sense Motive 26
Cayl: Spot 23, Sense Motive 13
Dalir: Spot 17, Sense Motive 8
Darek Halchov: Spot 19, Sense Motive 13
Jennor Elan: Spot 28, Sense Motive 22
Melina: Spot 23, Sense Motive 12
Nerissa din Nelyn:Spot 21, Sense Motive 27
Rai'el: Spot 31, Sense Motive 19
Thayna Dabei: Spot 31, Sense Motive 17

Sense Emotions when I enter:

Cayl: Spot 21/Sense Motive 25
Dalir: Spot 21/Sense Motive 27
Darek: Spot 26/Sense Motive 18
Jennor: Spot 30/Sense Motive 23
Melina: Spot 25/Sense Motive 24
Nerissa: Spot 20/Sense Motive 15
Rai: Spot 33/Sense Motive 29
Thayna: Spot 35/Sense Motive 27

This message was last edited by the GM at 19:19, Thu 25 Mar 2010.

Nerissa din Nelyn
 player, 278 posts
 Atha'an Miere Accepted
 Nice porcelain jewelry!
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 23:51
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Gamemaster:
On another note  Character need to respond to Xander in answere to his spots and sense motives done before him leaving and then after his returning.

As for success if his Sense motive on your PC if his roll is less than 15 then he does not sense your emotions, which mainly will be after he comes back.

Before leaving

Azara: Spot 29, Sense Motive 12 Plus bomus for bond so you make it.
Ahlandra si Bashan Kellan: Spot 25, Sense Motive 26
Cayl: Spot 23, Sense Motive 13
Dalir: Spot 17, Sense Motive 8
Darek Halchov: Spot 19, Sense Motive 13
Jennor Elan: Spot 28, Sense Motive 22
Melina: Spot 23, Sense Motive 12
Nerissa din Nelyn:Spot 21, Sense Motive 27
Rai'el: Spot 31, Sense Motive 19
Thayna Dabei: Spot 31, Sense Motive 17

Sense Emotions when I enter:

Cayl: Spot 21/Sense Motive 25
Dalir: Spot 21/Sense Motive 27
Darek: Spot 26/Sense Motive 18
Jennor: Spot 30/Sense Motive 23
Melina: Spot 25/Sense Motive 24
Nerissa: Spot 20/Sense Motive 15
Rai: Spot 33/Sense Motive 29
Thayna: Spot 35/Sense Motive 27

Sorry. I do not understand this.
Game Master
 GM, 83 posts
Sat 24 Jul 2010
at 03:30
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Nerissa din Nelyn:
Sorry. I do not understand this.

Basically Xander has been using his Wolfbrother ability to "sniff emotions" using Sense Motive I believe.

It seems the TN is 15.  So Xander made the TN both times with regards to Nerissa.

Xander sniffed twice, once before he left and then again when he came back.

So Xander would be able to get an impression of the emotions Nerissa was feeling at both those times.

Example: Derek reveals he's a channeler.  Nerissa feels a mix of apprehension and revulsion at this revelation.  When Xander came back into the room he would pick up on these two emotions (and perhaps note the change since Nerissa may have been feeling relief initially before the revelation).

This message was last edited by the GM at 03:30, Sat 24 July 2010.

Gamemaster
 GM, 479 posts
Thu 25 Mar 2010
at 23:57
Re: Second Out of Character Thread
Nerissa:  before Xander left the tavern he did a spot and sense motive to diecers your emotions  He succeeded

When he returned he did the same. On you he succeeded in the spot and not in the sense motives.

So you need to post here or PM him as to how you looked and felt before he left and just how you looked when he returned.

BTW please use the new OOC III for OOC in.  :)  I will be closing this one

This message was last edited by the GM at 00:01, Fri 26 Mar 2010.