katrionea
 member, 11 posts
Wed 19 Aug 2020
at 09:12
Artists vs. Writers
An attitude I used to see a lot among my fellow artists online is, "Writers take us/our skills for granted. YOU'RE the expendable ones, not us. EVERYONE has ideas, lol, you're not special."

Now that I'm trying to temper my numerous, scattered ideas into something good and create a comic? I see how essential writers - actual writers - really are. Of course everyone has ideas... but it takes a certain something to turn those ideas into an engaging and complete story, and I don't think I have it.

Sadly, I wouldn't know the first place to go looking for a writer to vibe and collaborate with, since I'm a social media hermit-in-the-woods.
ShadoPrism
 member, 1329 posts
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Wed 19 Aug 2020
at 12:25
Artists vs. Writers
In reply to katrionea (msg # 1612):

Your in the 'write' place to find people like that. There are lots of ameture and possibly not so ameture writers around here. Just need to create a new forum thread and look for them.
katrionea
 member, 12 posts
Fri 21 Aug 2020
at 02:41
Artists vs. Writers
In reply to ShadoPrism (msg # 1613):

That's a really good point! Somehow I didn't even consider putting out feelers for a collaborator around here. Maybe once I beef up my portfolio a bit, I'll do just that.
rastashana
 member, 5 posts
Fri 21 Aug 2020
at 04:12
Artists vs. Writers
In reply to katrionea (msg # 1614):

Me and a few friends created a sorta forum for that for 1on1 story writing, its pretty much invite only because we are kinda already disturbed by the number of people that do one liners and expect you to distill what they said into something you can post to. :(
ittybittybat
 member, 8 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 05:23
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
A person who i know has been complaining because he can not collect the extra 600 dollar covid unemployment benefit.

This person has never worked a day in their life, went to collage on a hardship scholarship then dropped out just before getting a degree. They live in church subsidized housing, make more on welfare and food stamps than I earn in a month and don't have to pay any utilities. The amount of free and clear money they have each month is almost double mine and yet they always want to borrow money.

Now they think they should get that extra money.

I want to beat them with a clue by four.
ShadoPrism
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Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 06:21
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
In reply to ittybittybat (msg # 1616):

yeah ones like that give the rest of us a bad name. Want to help clue people like that in to the real world, one bat to the perverbial head at a time.
I have never had a job that paid much over minimum wage and even with food stamps its been hard to meet my bills (rent, utilities, gas for my car, etc). My only blessing from this covid thing is my food stamps now actually cover my food for the month. Prior to this I got $50 dollars a month for food. But I don't go begging for more money.



Some people need to learn how to budget and live with in their means.
I got a friend who works part time and complains that it is to much... won't do Anything but play on their computer on days they have to work, yet has animals she needs to take care of, just Won't do it on days she has to work. Drives me and her other friends nuts.
Then she spends most of her paycheck on stupid things- like she bought a bunch *6* chickens so she could get 'free eggs'. The feed and cages and all cost more than getting the Organic eggs in the grocery. Can't tell her that though, goes in one ear and out the other. Cause they lay 'free eggs'. This is just one of the dumb things she does that annoys the rest of us around her.
rastashana
 member, 6 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 12:22
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
In reply to ShadoPrism (msg # 1617):

The amount of entitlement man... its astounding.
ittybittybat
 member, 9 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 15:23
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
What makes me so mad about it is they are completly convinced that the world owes this to them. They should not have to work. All of their Doctor visits should be free (for them). They also believe no one except the rich should have to pay taxes. When I try to pin them down on what qualifies as rich it is anyone who makes more money than they do.
RosstoFalstaff
 member, 193 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 15:36
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
I mean . . . I get where you guys are coming from and people like that can be frustrating but perhaps it would do you all well to consider WHY it is that working an honest day's work is so insufficient to provide for your needs?

Like sure lazy people gonna laze but maybe a better use of all this would to identify who's actually taking the money out of your pocket effectively. I assume for instance ittybittybat that you (unlike your friend) have a degree and work a job? If not, why not, to both? And there's a hundred acceptable answers, with respect to you, and you DON'T need to justify yourself to me in this way. I'm simply asking because there's something very wrong here in terms of your friend.

If they are abusing the system, lying in order to collect more money, that's one thing. But if they're collecting this money legitimately, even if they're lazy or wasteful, I'm sorry but your fight should be aimed upward at correcting the injustice to you, not down at another person struggling at the bottom.

But no, if they haven't worked, they don't get unemployment payment, that's kind of how this works for the covid payment stuff

Shadoprism: your friend sounds like they may be in fact foolish as their major sin. Let the chicken raising take its course, and gently remind them of the cost disparity again when they complain about how much it costs. If they don't complain, don't bother. This person may in fact not have the energy to work more than a part-time job and hopefully they can then live within part-time means, while also working to improve their situation.

But I'd say that (especially as we all are posting on a completely non-work related, non-productive website) we should begrudge people their extravagances, until they complain of not having enough to get by. And even then, perhaps we should look at WHY so many of us don't have enough to get by?

Edit: also it's wrong to kill human leeches because usually they're friends with a politician. Since you asked.

This message was last edited by the user at 15:37, Mon 24 Aug.

ShadoPrism
 member, 1334 posts
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Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 15:53
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
The ones who get me upset are the ones who Can work but insist on getting welfare / disability that they really don't need.
Me I have several health issues, including 3 documented TIA strokes (that for those who don't know, is where a blood vessle / vien in the brain Kinks up, cutting off blood flow. Has many of the same side effects of a bleeding stroke, but less likely to kill the person.) Mine is caused by a birth defect and has lead me to be disabled. Though I fought that for a long time, working when and where I could till I got to the point I can't get a job because I am considered a high risk type - so I can't work.
Still do stuff, helping others when I can, just not paid for that.
I am on disability now, don't like it, but have no choice as I can't hold a normal job due to my declining health.

But I know a few people who get on disability / wellfare that don't really NEED to be on it cause if they got off their lazy butts they can work.
Those are the sorts that make it hard on us who really need this service.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 314 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 16:08
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
What I love are the friends of mine who applied for (and received) food stamps, and then revel in it because it enables them to use all of the money they would normally spend on food (they were not in any way, shape, or form going hungry, but they do live on disability/VA benefits) on booze. And they drink a lot, so they're legit spending a month's worth of what could be buying normal-but-not-high dollar food on booze.

Good job, guys. Good job. So glad you have that extraneous cash to buy liquor.
RosstoFalstaff
 member, 194 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 16:17
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
In reply to ShadoPrism (msg # 1621):

It's good that you're on disability if that's what you need. I honestly wish it didn't have to be that way and I appreciate that you'd rather be getting the satisfaction of working.

I think you and I and a number of people can agree that abuse of the system is a problem in this regard. But though these people are a problem I personally see them as a distraction from the major issue, that there is enough to help everyone who needs help if there is the will to do it, but there are people with a vested interest in setting people who don't have enough against other people who also don't have enough but are seen to be offending some sensibility or another.
ittybittybat
 member, 10 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 16:20
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
I am well aware the system needs to change. I think Welfare should be a short term, get you back on your feet type thing for when life kicks you in the teeth. There may be some cases that warrant long term coverage but those should be verified. I also think that if you are collecting Welfare then you should be required to work for the state in some fashion while on it even if it is just sweeping the streets or tending the children of others on welfare so they can sweep the streets.

The person I am talking about is third gen. Welfare and a walking baby factory (there, I gave away their gender) She has 8 children from 6 different fathers and has not been married to a single one of them. For her each child is just an added dollar sign on her welfare check and food stamps.  She could work if she was so inclined but she refuses and she has found Doctors that are willing to sign off on her being disabled. She has BRAGGED about this fact while drunk.

I got my first job when I was 8 years old working for a farmer and I have worked ever since. I served in the Air Force, learned two good trades and never asked for a handout.
Shannara
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Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 16:38
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
A gentle reminder that this is the place to vent, not discuss political topics and related opinions.  Please don't nudge it further in that direction.
kitty05w
 member, 1 post
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 19:18
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
Hey, since this is a venting thread I'd like to vent my experiences if that's ok. I am a woman with autism and several physical disability that I rather not say.  I am on disability and work long hours at a part time job and I can barely make ends meet and an constantly stressed over whether I will be able to pay rent on time. It's not even like I want to be on disability but the way it works would actually take away money if I decided to get a second job. It already takes 50% of every dollar. I get crap from all sides and then I get people calling me a human leech.
ShadoPrism
 member, 1335 posts
 OCGD-Obsessive-Compulsive
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Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 20:32
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
In reply to kitty05w (msg # 1626):

I need a Like button for your post.
rastashana
 member, 7 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 22:10
Why is it wrong to kill human leaches
In reply to kitty05w (msg # 1626):

The difference between you and the leaches is that you do try and work what you can do. Majority rather get free things than to lift one finger.
Isida KepTukari
 member, 359 posts
 Elegant! Arrogant! Smart!
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 01:10
Am I tired or depressed?
As the pandemic wears on, I'm finding it harder to keep motivated.  While I love the games I run and participate on here, I just couldn't get up the motivation to update them during a recent vacation.  I didn't go anywhere, as is the norm nowadays, though I had an isolated family member come into town to visit. Unfortunately we could only meet outside at opposite ends of a porch, or inside while being masked, so that wasn't nearly as much contact as we used to have.  We've pretty much decided that no one is getting together for Thanksgiving or Christmas, as we'd be stuck all being masked and well-separated, and eating together at once table is far too dangerous for a family meal (there are at least four members of my family who are in various danger zones for the virus).  We're basically going to be doing Zoom holidays.  It is not what we wanted, but it's going to have to happen.

But also this week of vacation should have been the time that I was able to finish more writing projects. Yet, I really couldn't. Hubby has been furloughed/unemployed since March, so he was always wanting to watch TV/movies or go out for a car ride or a walk or something of the sort.  I really have difficulty trying to carve out writing time when he's wandering into my office to distract himself every twenty minutes, calling me over to look at this or that, bringing the cat in, or any other distraction.  I few times I finally co-opted our one TV so I could at least see some of my own shows, but then he just stayed in the room reading or playing video games.  It seems petty, but that's kind of distracting to me.

The one thing I really crave is time alone in my own house.  The only alone time I get nowadays during my drives to and from work.  I am on a nocturnal schedule, but Hubby doesn't go to bed until after midnight, so my brain is usually not really up for writing at 2am.  I would prefer to write during the early evening, a little bit after I get up (assuming I don't work that day), but Hubby usually wants to go "do stuff".

After some discussion with my sister, who's in a similar situation, I'm going to ask Hubby to just leave for 3-4 hours at least one day a week.  I need quiet time that I know will not be interrupted.  I want to be able to write without being even benevolently bugged. I want to be able to go get/make food from places I know he doesn't like and eat them without compromise, pouts, or judgment. I just... want some time to myself...
rastashana
 member, 8 posts
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 14:01
Am I tired or depressed?
In reply to Isida KepTukari (msg # 1629):

Introverts unite! Or in this case, separate!

You don't require as much social interaction as he does, you enjoy the alone time and quiet, not being distracted. Question is does he really understand this? Asking him to go out one day a week without you... sounds ok but maybe you should be upfront. Its not depressed, its tired and weary because you dont want or like as much social interaction as he does. And forgive me for not understanding but he's not working, you are so you are paying the bills and going for a drive and wasting gas sounds like wasting money.
Isida KepTukari
 member, 360 posts
 Elegant! Arrogant! Smart!
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 14:56
Am I tired or depressed?
Hubby has been getting unemployment or his place of work has been paying him through a grant (depending on the week), so we aren't losing money, at least.

It's just right now there's a mismatch in our level of activities because I'm going out (to work) and he isn't, so he's seizing on every opportunity for something to do together to vary his routine when he gets bored.  So yes, we need to establish some new pandemic routines before I tie him to his armchair and boot him down the block.
ShadoPrism
 member, 1337 posts
 OCGD-Obsessive-Compulsive
 Gamer-Disorder
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 15:59
Re: Am I tired or depressed?
Isida KepTukari:
  So yes, we need to establish some new pandemic routines before I tie him to his armchair and boot him down the block.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Still giggling over that line.
Yaztromo
 supporter, 380 posts
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 19:09
Am I tired or depressed?
In reply to Isida KepTukari (msg # 1629):

I'm on a similar situation (with work from home on top of it) and I hoped I could progress many projects during these months in isolation, but actually my progress is slower than ever. A bit like your sister, I asked to have some quiet time, for example on one day during the week end, but it didn't work much. I simply can't focus.
Well... less progress on hobby projects and more hugging!

This message was last edited by the user at 19:10, Fri 28 Aug.

rastashana
 member, 9 posts
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 03:39
Re: Am I tired or depressed?
Isida KepTukari:
So yes, we need to establish some new pandemic routines before I tie him to his armchair and boot him down the block.


I giggled at that. But its good he's still getting some form of pay. Yea he might not even realize he's doing it.
Isida KepTukari
 member, 361 posts
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Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 03:27
Poor planning on your part...
For the most part my place of work has kept the rate of infections down quite low (though they should have implemented a stronger mask policy months earlier).  However, there have been some infections or confirmed cases of exposure, and when that happens it can wipe out half a work group because everyone that person is in contact with has to be quarantined as well.

That recently happened on one of the more important, busier machines in my department. So now the supervisor for that area keeps trying to (temporarily) yank people out of my group to fill in over there if they are even marginally qualified.  Even if it's only to move supplies around with trucks (which still takes being current on the truck, and knowing where things are and where they go).

I only have one guy in my group who is currently certified over there, and he no longer works over there for a reason (hates it). He does not want to be retrained on jobs over there, because that means they'll keep yanking him back there more and more when people call off.  (This machine had quite a few call-offs before the pandemic, and now it's just gotten worse, not even counting the quarantined folks.)  Now this supervisor wants to get my people cross-trained on using the truck or working in other positions over there so he can pull them from my line at need to fill in his gaps.

The thing is, this is a union shop, so there are procedures for that kind of thing. You have to get people in order of seniority (or in this case, reverse order), you can't just yank them from my group because it's convenient. And we used to have everyone under the same umbrella, so that cross-training was normal.  The company changed that some 8-9 years ago and stuck us in these isolated groups for "efficiency" or "focus" or something. So now no one's cross-trained except if they recently moved groups, and this supervisor (who has been here long enough that this is still "new") is whining about it.

Sorry, not sorry, dude. You told us to stop cross-training.  We did.  No takesie-backsies.
OceanLake
 supporter, 1127 posts
Wed 16 Sep 2020
at 07:06
Poor planning on your part...
Call in Dibert's manager to the rescue.