Piestar
 member, 926 posts
 once upon a time...
 ...there was a little pie
Fri 6 Aug 2021
at 03:47
Things are not the same
Yes, I seem to be a peeve machine, but this is (I think) a new one. Games in which almost everything my character does or says is ignored, not only by all the players, but by the GM's as well.

It is like I am the only one who sees my posts sometimes.

Am I being unrealistic to think the least you should be able to expect from a game master is that they read your posts, and reply in such a way as to show they have read your posts? Not saying everything you do has to work, but it should be noticed, no?
silentmouse
 member, 40 posts
Fri 6 Aug 2021
at 03:54
Things are not the same
I don't know that I'm in any games with you, so this might be wildly inaccurate to your circumstance, but the instances I've come across that happening, the player gave so little information that it was either hard to figure out where they where/what they were doing, or the character was literally just sitting/standing there.

Now, like I said, I don't know if this is the case, but when it does happen, it's frustrating as a GM because I try to include everyone in the thread into whatever is going on. I've had information that I, as the GM, gave to players go entirely ignored as well, so I can fully appreciate your frustration when you've put something there to interact with, and it falls by the wayside.

I think all I can suggest on the matter is double checking your posts to make sure that isn't the case, and pming the GM if its a recurring problem to ask why/what they need from you for your posts to not be ignored.
Piestar
 member, 927 posts
 once upon a time...
 ...there was a little pie
Fri 6 Aug 2021
at 04:04
Things are not the same
I could understand that being a problem, but I go out of way to connect my comments to other people, and leave them hooks. In one instance I offered a serious opinion about a situation we were in and all parties simply ignored my thoughts, then got offended when I walked away!

In a game I recently quit out of, the GM simply teleported my away from where I very intentionally placed myself without a word of dialogue explaining it.
GreenTongue
 member, 996 posts
 Game Archaeologist
Fri 6 Aug 2021
at 10:45
Is this thing on? tap, tap
Not so different from "Real Life" when you try to strike up some friendly banter between characters and get ignored. Seems only DM to character talk is worth engaging in?
Piestar
 member, 928 posts
 once upon a time...
 ...there was a little pie
Fri 6 Aug 2021
at 20:52
Is this thing on? tap, tap
In reply to GreenTongue (msg # 1899):

Does feel that was sometimes, though even as the DM I feel ignored some of the time.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 400 posts
Fri 6 Aug 2021
at 20:58
Old friends
In reply to GreenTongue (msg # 1899):

This drives me insane.

Group game. Group play. Inevitably, there's always that One Player who thinks the only person worth interacting with is the DM, and really, it's just a solo game for them and the rest of the group is just scene garnish.

Balanced, of course, by the individuals that think NPCs are see-through, there just to be ignored entirely...

Some people.
Piestar
 member, 929 posts
 once upon a time...
 ...there was a little pie
Fri 6 Aug 2021
at 22:06
Old friends
In reply to SunRuanEr (msg # 1901):

I know, it is frustrating. Often NPC's get more attention than the fellow PCs!
ShadoPrism
 member, 1384 posts
 OCGD-Obsessive-Compulsive
 Gamer-Disorder
Fri 6 Aug 2021
at 22:32
Old friends
In reply to Piestar (msg # 1902):

Reminds me of a player I had years ago. INSISTED he be treated with Respect and got P.O.ed cause an NPC called him Dude, which was in line for the nature of the NPC (Suffer Dude). He went nuts and quit the game over that.
Piestar
 member, 930 posts
 once upon a time...
 ...there was a little pie
Fri 6 Aug 2021
at 22:43
Old friends
In reply to ShadoPrism (msg # 1903):

Seems like he was paying too much attention! hehehe... But I am talking about games where people simply ignore stuff, sometimes things other players do, and often things the DM says.

I've had players tell me they were attacking a foe that I had already labelled as dead, or go in directions that the map clearly shows doesn't exist.

I actually had to quit a game once when the DM got upset that I kept pointing out them ignoring things I said and did, the very least I expect to be able to do is remind them.
Yaztromo
 supporter, 442 posts
Fri 6 Aug 2021
at 22:44
Serfdom
A work meeting ahead of a proposed three years industrial project: "Can you guarantee that your team will stay the same until the end of the project and people will not leave?"

Which kind of question is this?!? There is no more serfdom! If you want people to stay with a specific job for three years there is only one thing you can do: pay them significantly more than their market value!
Are you prepared to fund an overpriced project for next three years? No? So you have the answer to your question, you fool!
By the way, can you guarantee that you will be still there for the next three years?
Piestar
 member, 931 posts
 once upon a time...
 ...there was a little pie
Fri 6 Aug 2021
at 23:20
Serfdom
In reply to Yaztromo (msg # 1905):

Sounds like something I would read in a Dilbert cartoon, companies have gone insane. Too many people in charge who went to school for business (read as: maximize profit to the detriment of workers, customers and everyone else) and no longer actually get in to management because they know how to do the job.

So glad I am retired, I sadly witnessed the decline of the American business model, and the last few years were much like your example. Disgusting.
Yaztromo
 supporter, 443 posts
Sat 7 Aug 2021
at 17:06
Serfdom
In reply to Piestar (msg # 1906):

Not all the companies are like that, of course, but some of them for sure... They think that paying (little) money allows them to ask for anything.
ladysharlyne
 subscriber, 3162 posts
 Member before Oct 2005
 THE GLASS IS HALF FULL
Sat 7 Aug 2021
at 17:41
Vent from a GM
So why is it that when you have to tell players where their characters are and what they are doing there.  You try to keep threads down so you have two cave chambers in one cave thread, you are leaving PMs for players to get them to post and tell them again there exactly what their character is needed and where and what thread that it is YOUR fault they can't post, don't know where their character is, are gone for over a week or more sometimes and its your fault they don't know where to come back to.... All the negativity just hits at one time and that brings me down, totally, and I am a long standing GM but it does not keep hateful PMs from hurting when you are doing your best and other players and their characters are spot on!

Off my soap box now, I just am blown away, these were long standing friends.  Was there a full moon that I missed or something for all this to hit at once....

Sorry, just down and frustrated from trying so hard to please everyone.
GreenTongue
 member, 997 posts
 Game Archaeologist
Sat 7 Aug 2021
at 18:04
Vent from a GM
In reply to ladysharlyne (msg # 1908):

Can't please everyone.
It is just as far from them to you as it is from you to them.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 401 posts
Sat 7 Aug 2021
at 18:39
Vent from a GM
In reply to ladysharlyne (msg # 1908):

*hugs*

If people can't keep track of their characters, that's their own fault. Often, it's usually their fault if they can't keep track of anything else, too, because most GMs either A) lay details out clearly to begin with, or B) are perfectly willing to answer a clarification question.

If it's written (or in a picture), pay attention to it. Heck, it's RPoL! You can scroll back and check what's there at any time!
If you don't know, ASK.

You wouldn't think that would be so difficult, but it is.
ladysharlyne
 subscriber, 3163 posts
 Member before Oct 2005
 THE GLASS IS HALF FULL
Sat 7 Aug 2021
at 20:44
Things are not the same
Thanks guys.  Yeah ask, mainly scroll back to the last time you posted.  But yeah just ask, in a nice way. but when it is laid out all over the place. Oh well, I have been at this a long long time, its just that these were two trusted and loved players so it rocked me.  After over 16 years, I usually roll with the punches and then keep going.  But thanks again guys for your input. It helps xx
donsr
 member, 2339 posts
Sat 7 Aug 2021
at 21:22
Things are not the same
Bottom Line   Lady S..you'er the DM/GM..you lay things out for them, you can't hand hold their hands, or  you may as well  write  a solo story?

 You've been around long enough that your games have a following..use  OOC to  give a run down, and the rest is up to the player.

Bottom line players have to take responsibilities as well?
Yaztromo
 supporter, 444 posts
Sat 7 Aug 2021
at 21:48
Re: Vent from a GM
ladysharlyne:
Sorry, just down and frustrated from trying so hard to please everyone.

Trying to please everyone.... but yourself.
In a game, everybody have to have fun. Including the GM.
Of course.
Piestar
 member, 933 posts
 once upon a time...
 ...there was a little pie
Sun 8 Aug 2021
at 01:41
Vent from a GM
In reply to ladysharlyne (msg # 1908):

It is extra work, but I go the extra mile to not only have separate threads, but to hide the threads from characters shouldn't know about, It is frustrating, but some people simply need the extra effort. Even with that I have characters who don't even notice major events they do see, like a player character dying, or the locations of the monsters clearly shown on the map.

Very frustrating.
Greymist
 member, 17 posts
Sun 8 Aug 2021
at 20:45
I despise the dice roller!
It has always felt like it rolls low - but I am in a new game and I am now tracking my d20 rolls:

To date: 39 rolls, 14 are 11 or higher, average of all rolls is 8.8 perhaps it will move to the mean of 10.5, over time, but I'm not expecting it.

And, of course, the one 20 rolled was for an ability check, not an attack!
donsr
 member, 2340 posts
Sun 8 Aug 2021
at 22:12
I despise the dice roller!
 in my own system i use, the mods  can be added to, or subtracted from, what you need tyo  roll, and  a randomize whether the rolls need to be high or low.


 :;chuckles:: sadly..i have  had  people  roll a '1' or '100' when it was the worst time to do so!
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 402 posts
Mon 9 Aug 2021
at 02:22
I despise the dice roller!
I am consciously aware that the dieroller probably really does roll across the spread in an even fashion, and most of the time it seems to just be indifferent towards my characters - as I'd like a non-sentient bit of programming to be!

...except for my poor 3.5 fighter. The dieroller /hates/ him. In six or so years of play, I don't think he's successfully landed an attack more times than I could count on one hand. It's not because his bonus is bad, or even because the enemies are /that/ hard to hit (I cannot even reliably hit when all I need to roll is a 5 or 6), and everyone else in the party will be merrily tearing through them without effort while my poor fighter stands around being a useless meatshield.

Stupid dieroller. =(

This message was last updated by the user at 02:22, Mon 09 Aug 2021.

NowhereMan
 member, 446 posts
Mon 9 Aug 2021
at 02:29
I despise the dice roller!
I ran a solo game a little while ago where the player ran an entire party of adventurers, and the die roller hated them. I think I could count the number of successful skill rolls over the course of the multiple-adventure life of the game without having to take off my shoes.
ShadoPrism
 member, 1385 posts
 OCGD-Obsessive-Compulsive
 Gamer-Disorder
Mon 9 Aug 2021
at 02:39
I despise the dice roller!
Got to remember, all automated dice rollers are run by demons and gremlins. Its why its impossible to get good rolls.
Piestar
 member, 960 posts
 once upon a time...
 ...there was a little pie
Tue 24 Aug 2021
at 23:59
I despise the dice roller!
It really is hard not to feel persecuted by the dice roller when it can be so darn specific. In one game, I was a thief character, and the roller seemed on the negative side, but I never, EVER successfully backstabbed anything. Dozens of attempts over six or seven levels.

I am in a game now when the GM occasionally gives me a chance to roll a skill bump, and it scroodly doodles me every time there too, like it knows. Not bad rolls most of the time, but when it's something really beneficial, nope, do not pass go, do not collect $200.00.

This message was last edited by the user at 12:26, Sun 19 Sept 2021.