See, that's what makes when it happens in this format so infuriating! It's all literally right there for re-reading!

I understand forgetting what was said or done two weeks ago at a tabletop game where practically no one actually takes notes (someone always says they will, and inevitably doesn't), but it really feels like less of an actual excuse and more of an 'I was too lazy to bother' admission, on RPoL. If you don't remember, re-read and check!

That could entail wading through thousands of posts. Assuming you even remember it came up after a couple months of real time.

I've tried, with mixed success, but I understand why some things go forgotten. Not why last weeks posts do, but certainly why last year's posts do, even if it's only last week, game time.

Just one reason I never watched soap operas.

In reply to Hunter (msg # 2076):



Blindness your shield, well mine, against Alexa. Its not screen-reader friendly. This is fine by me. Discord   being screen-reader unfriendly makes me sad at times, but that's another matter.

"Dude, everyone is using it why not you?"

Takes friend to Discord, turns off screen, and makes him try and tab through it.  The frustration builds, power level grows, some planet is destroyed an hour later.  Now you know some level of my hell. There are many.

It's only a slight exaggeration to say that RPoL is specifically designed for old game posts to be forgotten.  For all the really genuinely fantastic design choices that went into this site, the absence of a search function is just crippling.  I was jawdropped the first time I was like "how did that one bit of dialogue go again?" and went to click the "Search" button that was obviously there, because all grown-up websites have one, only to discover in horror that it had been left out somehow.

In reply to Dream Sequence (msg # 2083):


 Let me tell you how I do it.  If it works for me, I suspect, it'll launch the divide and work for those with  actual eyes.

1. Go to the first thread, and click on the option that says"Display all." At least that's what I hear, what you see might be a little different.
   
2. I then select all of it.
   
3. I then open Notepad.
   
4. I paste the whole thread, or sometimes multiple threads into it.
   
5. I use the Notepad's built in "Find" feature to find that conversation, where things were in that room three months back, the dance I had withso and so, where I carried on a conversation with lots of subtext.

Try it some time, let me know if you find this also works for you.

And then repeat the process for all of the two dozen threads the years-old snip of dialogue I'm looking for might have been in?  Yes, that technically works.

Usually you can skip the whole "Notepad" stage.  Most browsers have a function that lets you search a page for specific text.

So open up the whole thread, and search for the text in your browser.

Of course, you have to remember the exact word/phrase your looking for... but that's true, even with those fancy "grown up" websites.  :)

Display all and then ctrl-f... If you can remember about which thread it happened in, that helps.

I get frustrated as both a player and DM when people can't bother to scroll back at least to their last post and refamiliarize themselves just a bit to avoid awkward posting which slows the flow when we all have to sort it out. I'll admit to doing it myself from time to time however, so I'm not throwing any stones. Just words. Some players and GMs are notoriously bad though. Can make for some hilarious scenes though when players spend consecutive rounds trying to flank an enemy as they orbit each other without reading prior posts!

So what you are saying is that RPoL pulled a total dad move and is delegating to its children like a total boss? That is indeed grown up and added value in not wasting resources to provide a function that is already built into your browser.

Searching multiple threads is not built into my browser.  Or yours, or anyone's.

A couple extra button clicks. Easy Peasy.

In reply to Sightless314 (msg # 2084):

It's not just the sorting through multiple threads for information that easily could be a year old.  There's also the issue of the time it takes to read through it.   On longer threads, that could be an hour or more.

The same can be said if you don't remember what it is you are actually looking for. If I type a phrase in a full thread it takes me right to every instance of that phrase, or even if I only remember part of it, it takes me right to it.

In reply to Durgion (msg # 2090):

A couple extra button clicks, for each additional thread you want to search.  It gets annoying after ten threads, and too frustrating to bother with before you hit twenty, though obviously other peoples' tolerance for that sort of thing may vary.

In reply to Hunter (msg # 2091):



No argument from me on that.  I've spent... wasted... the time.  I can't compare speed listening to speed reading, so I can't say with any certainty if I can listen faster, when listening for something specific, than you can look for it.

In reply to Sightless314 (msg # 2094):

I'd expect listening takes longer since your eyes can skip ahead as you read, but your ears can't.

In reply to Brianna (msg # 2095):

I worked with a 100% blind colleague when developing an in-house software application, and when he used JAWS at his normal speed he was crazy fast in navigating Windows and the multitude of in-house apps we used.

This is why I rage to the heavens when Jeopardy! has the video clues...

In reply to Brianna (msg # 2095):

I used to type (back before Carpel TunneL) around a hundred words a minute.   Which meant that I tended to type faster than I could talk...and found having to use voice chat annoying.

In reply to Brianna (msg # 2095):


Well, this is where things get tricky. The average play for most audio devices is around 150-165 words per minute.     I can go up to three-hundred words per minute, and if its a text I've listened to prior and am searching for something specific can go up to 370 per minute.

The thing is some people can skim and scroll faster than that, since they can automatically skip over the image tags, and the links and their associated numbers and the like.    So, *does the see-saw motion with open palms*. It depends.   I've been known to sometimes speed listen for info while on hold, as its one of the easier times in which to do it in.

 The following is a public service rant.

If you are part of an organization that sends out regular E-Mail messages, you might want to think twice before you do an image background. Depending on the system it might make that text you put in as part of the image, in which case all your blind employees/ customers will get absolutely nothing. Oh, some of your sighted folks might have trouble too, depending on contrast, or lack  there of.

I was a customer, I sent it to three friends, all of whom also had trouble.   So I printed the sucker  out, scanned it in via OCR, and finally got the information.

Thank you, end of public service rant.

In reply to Sightless314 (msg # 2100):

Things tend to be done for "typical people", which involved certain assumptions much like those you're referring to.   This tends to end up leaving non-typical (usually people with mental and/or physical challenges) out of the loop.

Even though it's certainly a less annoying example: because of my autism, song lyrics often don't make sense.   Which means I have to look for them, also time consuming because music publishers don't like "free" distribution of proprietary material.

Or...updates on social media.   Not everyone uses social media.
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Dear Amazon: The middle of the driveway, directly behind my car where I can't even SEE them, is *NOT* where you leave my packages. I don't care how big the box is, there's a sidewalk AND a porch AND a whole section of the driveway that's at least visible from the house that you could have used instead. This is twice. TWICE. /shakes fist

In reply to SunRuanEr (msg # 2102):

That is right up there with my last delivery from them. Sign by my front door says place packages on Bench NOT Ground, so where did they put it, under the bench, where I could not see it, on the ground.
I am physically disabled, a visiting nurse found it there by pure chance, marveling over it cause the sign is SO Obvious.

In reply to ShadoPrism (msg # 2103):

I can top that, unfortunately.  I was supposed to be getting a replacement monitor yesterday; and just fyi, my apartment door opens to the sidewalk.   Driver pulls up, idles for like 15 seconds, then drives off.