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Vents with allowed responses - 3.

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Hunter
member, 1952 posts
Captain Oblivious!
Lurker
Mon 3 Jul 2023
at 07:33
  • msg #2205

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to V_V (msg # 2204):

It's one of those sad truths to life that people come and go.   The good ones never stay long enough and the bad ones never seem to go away.

I must say that it's a good thing that you're recognizing that time and making an effort to transition as smoothly as possible.   So kudos to you and I'll try to remember to send some positive energy your way.
Hunter
member, 1954 posts
Captain Oblivious!
Lurker
Sat 8 Jul 2023
at 01:16
  • msg #2206

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

I'm officially moving to a lurker status on RPOL next week.   I'm not a player in any games and the last game that I'm GMing is closing early next week.

Hunter is a sad neko-guy.  :(
WhiteComic
member, 457 posts
In omnia Paratus
Unus Annus
Sat 8 Jul 2023
at 01:28
  • msg #2207

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to Hunter (msg # 2206):

No plans to run any more games or just continue and build off the one you currently have???
Hunter
member, 1955 posts
Captain Oblivious!
Lurker
Sat 8 Jul 2023
at 01:38
  • msg #2208

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to WhiteComic (msg # 2207):

No plans to run any more games.
WhiteComic
member, 458 posts
In omnia Paratus
Unus Annus
Sat 8 Jul 2023
at 01:51
  • msg #2209

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

That's very unfortunate. I'm sure your talents will be missed with all the games you have GMed.  Good luck to your future endeavors!
Hunter
member, 1956 posts
Captain Oblivious!
Lurker
Sat 8 Jul 2023
at 03:05
  • msg #2210

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

I can't seem to get a game to last more than a few months...and I'm pretty much out of new ideas at this point.   So yeah, lurker it seems to be meow.
V_V
member, 1079 posts
Event: Departure
Horizon: March 3rd, 2033
Sat 8 Jul 2023
at 03:11
  • msg #2211

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to Hunter (msg # 2206):

Considering your many posts of dissatisfaction over the past eight months, have you thought about gaming through another medium? Also, will being a lurker and/or posting on public forum threads aggravate that desire to play or run something you already know, by trial and error, never works?

I ask these questions, for you to answer (or not ask) yourself to yourself because it's what I had to confront. I've had zero in game posts for a over a year. I take that back, two in game posts. Both introduction dialogue. Otherwise I've just workshopped. It was a great relief to just work on my games for 15 months, and still have player input. I have some really dedicated players that have been waiting for around three years for the start of my game, and show no signs of giving up on the project. I happened to have July 7th set over a month in advance for my return to "business" and having that day come, today, helps validate the time spent working and resting.

I hope you find an outlet. Be it writing stories, gaming in instant messages, using another play by message system, or another medium of "gaming" all together. That last part energized me so much. Playing RPGs through cards and video games, which demand visual representation, gave me back the creative energy I needed.

I know what it's like to hang up the cape or gloves, and be wistful of the things that could have been that never came. Some will say "they will" but they might not. A break sounds like it will do you some good.
WhiteComic
member, 459 posts
In omnia Paratus
Unus Annus
Sat 8 Jul 2023
at 03:27
  • msg #2212

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to Hunter (msg # 2210):

Out of curiosity, any reason why you'll be ending your current Pathfinder game? Is it nearing its end or is it simply just not lasting due to players? Perhaps look into maybe expanding that game further. I have seen many of your posts regarding in massive amounts of ideas in the IC thread. You can definitely apply all those ideas into your current game, so it doesn't have to end. Of course, things would have to get changed around, but your game could thrive.

From the sounds of it, you just seem sad and rather disappointed that it is ending, and it doesn't have to be the end. The game could take a small hiatus as you work behind the scenes to expand the universe you have going on, of course if the same players are willing to stick around.

From experience, games tend to die out quickly because of lack of content from the initial startup. Games need lots of time and effort to have lots of content, so games don't fizzle out after only a few short months. I've personally have taken hiatus on my own games and dedicate a solid month or two in coming up with new story arcs and what not.

My current game had a whole year of development and planning and while not many like to dedicate that much time into something like that, but it helps drive games to last much longer. Usually having a Co-GM does help as well as you both can work together with coming up with ideas if one GM runs out, the other usually can compensate for that.
Hunter
member, 1957 posts
Captain Oblivious!
Lurker
Sat 8 Jul 2023
at 04:49
  • msg #2213

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to V_V (msg # 2211):

Truthfully, a lot of my dissatisfaction the past year or so has to do with my living situation more than anything else.   I'd love to get back to face to face gaming, but lack both transportation and financial means to move around very much.

As for my last pathfinder game, it's been one where at least one player was having issues posting at any given time.   And it's been that way not long since after the game started; the reason I hung onto it for so long was because my feeling was it would be my last GM game on RPOL.

Just because I'm not actively playing or GMing, I'm still planning on sticking around.
Hunter
member, 1969 posts
Captain Oblivious!
Lurker
Fri 21 Jul 2023
at 17:42
  • msg #2214

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

Just when I'm finally starting to put a dent in my credit card debt....something else pops up.

Good thing: My SR5 Pixie is finally done.  Just gotta go over to deviantart for a picture.   ^_^
OBorg
member, 14 posts
Tue 1 Aug 2023
at 21:56
  • msg #2215

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

I'm really not having much luck with games here. The last two games I pitched a character for, one I came up with a concept I really liked but after getting further setting info from the GM I decided they wouldnt fit very well and the game was full before I could come up with something different, and the other came back with "Um, I accidently sent the RTJ acceptance to someone else by mistake..."

At this rate I might have to learn D&D.
WhiteComic
member, 474 posts
In omnia Paratus
Unus Annus
Wed 2 Aug 2023
at 02:56
  • msg #2216

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to OBorg (msg # 2215):

I don't think that's completely fair in either scenario. The first GM should have allowed you time to present something that fit their game.

As for the second GM, a mistake was made which they should have corrected or at least granted you into the game. One more player usually doesn't hurt a game too much. They could at least have offered you a reserved spot in case someone flakes out in the beginning.
1492
member, 130 posts
I like monkeys
Wed 2 Aug 2023
at 03:46
  • msg #2217

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to WhiteComic (msg # 2216):

Agree. Plenty of bad GM's out there. Seems like he bumped into a couple. The good thing is, there are plenty of good GM's out there too. Don't lose hope @OBorg! Keep on truckin'!
Hunter
member, 1978 posts
Captain Oblivious!
Lurker
Wed 2 Aug 2023
at 08:24
  • msg #2218

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

OBorg:
the other came back with "Um, I accidently sent the RTJ acceptance to someone else by mistake..."

That's really, really hard to do; given the way RPOL does adding players to a game.  To me, that sounds more like an excuse not to add you; perhaps in favor of someone else who'd already been promised a spot but didn't put in an RTJ until the very last minute.
WhiteComic
member, 475 posts
In omnia Paratus
Unus Annus
Wed 2 Aug 2023
at 08:33
  • msg #2219

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to Hunter (msg # 2218):

See, I thought the same thing. It sounded suspicious to me because I was like:
How on Earth do you 'mistakenly' accept someone else?

The GM would have had to read the RTJ request and the character concept that was presented with it before they could get to the bottom of the page and clicked 'add player.'

If the GM liked that concept, they wouldn't have had a problem adding them from the jump.

It sounds like Hunter may be right: a spot might've been promised to someone who most likely didn't send in anything at all, and the GM waited until the player finally showed up. Who knows how many other RTJs they said no to for simply waiting for said specific player to show up.

I am terribly sorry that this happened to you because I am sure you likely have really good concepts submitted. There are bad GMs on here unfortunately, but there is many, many good ones out there too. You'll find a game, I'm sure of it!
OBorg
member, 15 posts
Wed 2 Aug 2023
at 12:09
  • msg #2220

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

WhiteComic:
In reply to OBorg (msg # 2215):
The first GM should have allowed you time to present something that fit their game.

Personally I never expect anyone to hold up a game on my behalf, especially at startup.
In this case I'm blaming my lack of familiarity with the system; I just couldnt tweak my original concept to work in the setting, or come up with something new that I liked and (crucially) didnt duplicate key skills with the other characters, before the game started. If I knew the system better I might have found a way in time, or at least left the other players doubling up on *my* characters skills rather than the other way around :)
locojedi
member, 227 posts
Wed 2 Aug 2023
at 12:16
  • msg #2221

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

Ask to be on the "waiting list"... There is always a lot of turn over, especially right after startup.
AmbertheGirlGamer
member, 4 posts
Wed 2 Aug 2023
at 13:28
  • msg #2222

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

I think that happened to me too. Tried signing up for [a] 5e game on here and the dm was like "you sent the RTJ application to this other game" and I was like "No, I signed up for the horror dnd game."

So with that, and having to leave one game on Tavern keeper cuz the dm wouldn't allow me to play an owlin or anything furry or feathered or whatever cuz it is"Too cartoonish",  I bailed.

Then on discord a dm reached out to me saying "Hey! Heard you were looking for a dnd game to play in. I stream my games on YouTube,  come check them out. " which I did only for him to tell me at the end "You gotta pay to play." And I only do free to play dnd 5e games on roll20 and discord for voice chat.  I would never charge my players for something I play for fun and free as a hobby. I mean, cool world,  dude but you should have told me it wasn't free to play instead of roping me along. Dang!

Like I have autism and bad social anxiety so I have a hard time talking to people and am tired of these bad dms who think they can take advantage of me. Already dealt with 2 bad dms who in the end were unreliable and flaky.  One of them even told me that it was my fault for not having fun and that he cared more about the game than the players having fun. And mixing a dnd 5e game with 3.5 is a disaster waiting to happen so that's why I left that 1 game I was in for a year and a half because the dm refused to work with me on having fun, never gave me a party or gave me a party with weak npcs and forced me to do combat by myself when I didn't want to.  Also was tired of him gaslighting and railroading me and stuff and that was my only streamed dnd 5e game that was played on roll20 and discord for voice chat.  That was also my only living world dnd game I was in too. After having 3 of my characters get killed off in that game by the dm without any way of resurrection or reincarnation and not wanting my 4th character to die because that game made me scared of combat by myself in dnd, I decided to retire my way of mercy Tiefling monk and leave the game before Singles appreciation day on February 15 of this year.

I still try my best every time I play dnd though and try my best to have fun but no dnd is better than bad dnd.
This message was last edited by a moderator, as it was against the forum rules, at 14:05, Wed 02 Aug 2023.
Hunter
member, 1979 posts
Captain Oblivious!
Lurker
Wed 2 Aug 2023
at 14:40
  • msg #2223

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

In reply to AmbertheGirlGamer (msg # 2222):

As someone who also has autism....yeah, that sucks: both streaming and asking for money are red flags.   For every good GM, you're going to find some bad ones.   It'll take you a while to get a feel for which is which, but it'll come.

Personally, I just stay here.    Play by post has a number of advantages over chat.
V_V
member, 1084 posts
Event: Departure
Horizon: March 3rd, 2033
Thu 3 Aug 2023
at 11:07
  • msg #2224

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

AmbertheGirlGamer:
..."You gotta pay to play." And I only do free to play dnd 5e games on roll20 and discord for voice chat.  I would never charge my players for something I play for fun and free as a hobby. I mean, cool world,  dude but you should have told me it wasn't free to play instead of roping me along. Dang!


That's BS! Not what you said, but the audacity of that GM. I don't want to derail so I'll be quick.  I was incredibly fortunate to GM for cash as a 20 something, prior to realizing I hadn't severe limitations. I GMed WAAAAY more for free than if I got paid a dime and hour I would have made 100 times what I made when I was paid. That's scummy, but I guess also more normalized with youtube and other platforms. I've never met someone, and gamed with them, that GMed for money. For me it wasn't worth it, it was like any job, beyond my capacity to deliver consistently, and...it wasn't fun. Just wanted to put that in there since I was approached by friends of my gaming group to GM for, and when I said no, they offered to pay. So for what it's worth, I...that's just ridiculous. That makes me mad that you had that bait and switch, and probably gave him some views. Ugggh. Sorry, that's all I'll say though.
quote:
That was also my only living world dnd game I was in too. After having 3 of my characters get killed off in that game by the dm without any way of resurrection or reincarnation and not wanting my 4th character to die because that game made me scared of combat by myself in dnd, I decided to retire my way of mercy Tiefling monk and leave the game before Singles appreciation day on February 15 of this year.


OMG...that makes my heart sink. I can't speak to 5e D&D, but I played Living Greyhawk in 3.5. I saw some awful GMs that ruined people's ability to appreciate the format. I'm so sorry, not to apologize, but genuinely that's heartbreaking. Not like your beloved pet dying, heartbreaking, but dang, that still hurts to even read.

I was going to reply more on topic, your post just struck me with he first part and gutpunched me with the next. Sorry to go off topic! So much just resonated. I haven't even read further posts yet.

As for "accidentally" adding. I've done that, but that was because John (swapped in name) was in my first game, and I advertised for a second game. John said he'd RTJ. I get a RTJ that is incomplete but same type, same "Class" (caste in Exalted) as John and so I added the user, as I only new John (best) by his character in the first game. It ended up the player I added stayed, on my watch, but left on his own. Meanwhile John was never in jeopardy of being left out. I had them both queued to just agree to allow each other to "do their own thing" and any crossover that occurred was fine, and needed to be fine for the group to work. Like, I had no problem having Not-John in the game, his concept was good enough even if incomplete. I just probably would have been more careful if John hadn't coincidentally cued me to expect that "concept". Anyway, that was one time in 19 years on RPoL, and very specific to a niche style.

I'm glad you, OBorg, realize sometime GMs are ina hurry in the first case, as I sort of agree with you. I've been that player too. Made a paladin and found out we'd be "doing to evil what it deserves" and didn't have the time to get in my second submission. I had typed it up and sent it, but during my writing it, the GM already had his pick.

The second case is likely suspect as mentioned "seatwarmer aka inside invite" or a BS excuse. MY citing me doing it doesn't in any way discredit that statement. To be fair, I did seatwarm for John, and  it only took that once to remember to check user names. Never needed to consult that rule since, but still do, since it happened at all.

Sorry you had bad luck though.

Anyway, I got so caught up in the "allowed replies" I forgot where I was. heh...So if you don't mind I'll double post...eh hem.
V_V
member, 1085 posts
Thu 3 Aug 2023
at 11:18
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Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

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GreenTongue
member, 1152 posts
Game Archaeologist
Sun 27 Aug 2023
at 01:34
  • msg #2226

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

Have a 5 month old Whirlpool washer that I stuck a hand full of wet towels in to wash.
It stopped with the error that it wasn't drained.
To get service I need the serial number of the washer which is behind the door. However, the door is locked and will not unlock because it is full of water.
So, no serial number, no service. No service, can't access serial number.
Frustrating.

While I was looking for the filter using my phone camera, I notice the pump overflow tube is kinked. So short it is at a 90 degree angle and so kinked. Even if I had found the filter, it wouldn't help.
V_V
member, 1100 posts
Wed 30 Aug 2023
at 08:05
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Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

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SunRuanEr
subscriber, 520 posts
Fri 1 Sep 2023
at 17:10
  • msg #2228

Re: Vents with allowed responses - 3

I swear, television-series-making-people, the words "takes some departures from the novels" is practically never a good thing. It's especially a bad thing when trying to watch a series based on books with someone who's not /read/ the books, and is constantly asking for explanations about what's happening/who someone is/whatever.

/watched the WoT season 2 sneak peek and realized that time would be better spent just re-reading the books.

Grr.

Guess I just reclaimed a lot of free time for this month.
redkommie
member, 78 posts
Unclassifible Creature
Level 7 Moron
Fri 1 Sep 2023
at 18:19
  • msg #2229

Chester's Moment

BeenIn reply to SunRuanEr (msg # 2228):

been debating watching that, but hearing it is a large departure from the novels doesn't make it vibe good with me
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