phoenix9lives
 member, 1044 posts
 GENE POLICE!  YOU!
 GET OUTTA THE POOL!
Mon 16 Nov 2020
at 20:57
In case of the next global emergency
Homemade Toilet paper:

You can use newspaper, general paper and even magazines as long as they do not have a shiny gloss. You will also want to add ingredients such as baby oil, lotions or aloe in order to keep the paper from hardening.

1. The first step would be to remove as much ink as possible from the paper, by soaking it in a tub or a bucket. Afterwards take the paper and place it in a pot with leaves and grass which will help the fibers remain together. The pot should be filled with water so that it completely covers the paper and then left to simmer.

2. After an hour of simmering comes about half an hour of boiling at high temperatures. Itís ok to add more water if necessary. You will also need to remove the foam which begins to rise to the top, as this is mostly ink, glue and other materials you donít want.

3. Eventually, the paper turns into a pulp. At this time you will have to remove the water but without disturbing the pulp. Try to remove as much as possible and then simply wait for it to cool before removing the rest of the water. The pulp also needs to be taken out in order to remove the water, but it should not be done so that the pulp becomes completely dry. Once this is done the pulp is put back in the pot and it is mixed with the softening oils.

4. Once this step is complete, it is time to scoop out the pulp. Do it in chunks and place them on a towel or a cloth on a flat surface. Afterwards you will use a rolling pin in order to spread out the pulp in a thin layer. Try to make it as thin as possible. A mallet can be used to gently deal with any lumps that might appear.

5. Now another towel or cloth should be placed on top of the layer as to create a sandwich. On top of this place something flat and rigid and then something heavy. You can even walk on it if you want. The goal here is to remove all the excess water.

6. If this is done you can remove the items placed on top. Be careful with the second towel as you do not want it to stick to the pulp. In order to remove the towel on the bottom, you will have to flip it all upside down. Do not try to remove the pulp off the towel.
praguepride
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 - Warhammer Fluffy-K
Mon 16 Nov 2020
at 21:07
In case of the next global emergency
I use nature's bathroom: My nextdoor neighbor's lawn
 ψ(`∇ī)ψ

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ladysharlyne
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 You get out of a game the
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Mon 16 Nov 2020
at 21:10
In case of the next global emergency
So I am like a bear.... does a bear go in the woods???? Thanks for this phoenix9lives
phoenix9lives
 member, 1045 posts
 GENE POLICE!  YOU!
 GET OUTTA THE POOL!
Mon 16 Nov 2020
at 22:58
In case of the next global emergency
Silly me, I have had this strong feeling the feces is going to hit the fan for a couple decades, and have been trying to prepare bit by bit.  Not stocking up on gobs of food and ammo, but by learning various hacks to supplement my skills so that I am better able to improvise as needed.  With the recent issues getting TP at the beginning of the pandemic in the US, and the link to this just popped up in my Facebook memories, I thought it would be a good idea to share it. LOL
spectre
 member, 881 posts
 Myriad paths fell
 away from that moment....
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 07:13
In case of the next global emergency
I think it's a good to have a chunk of knowledge to put on standby, always nice to have a bit of common wisdom mostly lost in modern times.
Winter51
 member, 162 posts
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 13:33
In case of the next global emergency
https://www.foxfire.org/

There are some places that preserve the traditional ways of our ancestors prior to the advent of electricity. These books are must haves if one is convinced we won't be able to afford gas, diesel and electric power in the near future.
tmagann
 member, 668 posts
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 17:04
In case of the next global emergency
Motorhomes. The perfect emergency survival kit. And it's portable.
praguepride
 member, 1724 posts
 "Hugs for the Hugs God!"
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Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 17:40
In case of the next global emergency
There was a reality tv series in 2009 that took a bunch of randos and made them survive in an apocalypse setting, complete with bandit raids and everything.

Obviously reality tv is very manipulated but it was interesting to watch how they tackled the problem of gathering fresh water, processing food, and building amenities using essentially scrap.

Season 1 was in a warehouse in downtown LA. This one had heavy interactions with "bandits" that would shove their way in and steal food/supplies and just mess things up. My favorite was a pair that came in late and claimed they owned the warehouse and basically talked their way into the group but they were really production moles sent to cause as much problem as possible (i.e. one of them used up ALL their stored water by taking a stupid long shower, the other one would constantly eat food above their rations etc.) Interesting in this one is that they had to build a bus for their extraction and they built a vehicle that ran on wood gas. They primarily used solar power augmented by wood gas for their power supply.


Season 2 was in a part of Louisiana that was ravaged and abandoned after Katrina. This one was about a pandemic situation so participants would have to occasionally quarantine themselves. Interesting of note is they built a giant windmill and hooked it up to transformers as a power generator. They had to build a boat to escape. Not as much fun as season 1 but much more rural so had hunting & gathering options available.

Season 3 was rumored to have halted mid-production when a "bandit" raider was accidentally killed but again, that is just rumors.

https://go.discovery.com/tv-shows/the-colony/


edit: The conclusion I drew from this show is that it would be really hard to go back to a Mad Max style civilization. There is just so much basic knowledge that we have stored in a million different sources and once you get access to electricity and fabrication it almost impossible to hold back an industrial revolution.

They would be all primitive and survivor-esque up until they got solar/wind/gas running and then suddenly they were manufacturing weapons and armor and even making working engines using scrap. While there are HUGE efficiency losses in these make shift crude constructions the key take away is just knowledge alone is such a huge step up. Even without modern supplies and manufacturing just our current understanding of things like medicine, physics, agriculture etc. that we take for granted is game changing to primitive societies and unless we REALLY bomb ourselves into extinction it would be almost impossible for society not to spring back without a complete disruption of knowledge between generations.

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GreenTongue
 member, 933 posts
 Game Archaeologist
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 18:26
In case of the next global emergency
Having the critical basics in non-virtual medium is important. All the links in the world are useless with not internet.

I personally think that there current "3rd World" countries are a better example as after the initial military imposed stability, the daily struggle will be basically the same. Bastions of splendor in the wilderness of poverty.

Great gaming fodder except people don't think it is "Fun", for more than a One Shot.
praguepride
 member, 1725 posts
 "Hugs for the Hugs God!"
 - Warhammer Fluffy-K
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 19:18
In case of the next global emergency
While the internet is amazing there are still volumes of printed material still in play. People on this site are biased as they tend to have more internet access then not but just in the US it is estimated that about 20-33 million people (6-10% of the population) don't have broadband/high speed access.

I know this is biased towards america but there are still parts of America that are on part with undeveloped nations. 2 million americans without access to basic sanitation and clean water, Mississippi's child mortality rate is triple the US norm and on part with central asian ex-soviet states like Georgia/Kazakhstan, 12% of Americans are estimated as being "food insecure"

Our averages are really high because urban lifestyle is sooo developed but once you get to the real rural parts of the Appalachians or look at the neglected Indian Reservations you get into some real bad parts.

Brief ancedote, I grew up near the Appalachian mountains and a local boyscout troop was going hiking and accidentally stumbled across a moonshine still. It was a man with a bunch of 12yr old kids and the moonshiners just up and shot him for trespassing. Kids had to make it back to the main road and get help all on their own after seeing their adult chaperone get gunned down in front of them.

No arrests were made, the moonshiners had packed up and moved on by the time the police could go out there. Hell I don't even remember if they found the body or not...
Jordan Task
 member, 5033 posts
 All glory to the
 Hypnotoad!
Mon 30 Nov 2020
at 03:20
Re: In case of the next global emergency
tmagann:
Motorhomes. The perfect emergency survival kit. And it's portable.


Ehhhhh..... not so much, no. The problem with *motorhomes* is the *motor* part. Most motorhomes are pretty shoddily manufactured. The engines have a tendency to be excessively prone to mechanical issues.

What you want to get is something like an Airstream trailer:

https://www.airstream.com/travel-trailers/

Itís more or less what you want, a portable house, but it *also* has the added benefit that the ďmotorĒ section can be swapped out for a new one whenever you find that it doesnít work anymore.

For extra credit you can add some solar panels to the roof and an inverter and battery and you will have a little power wherever you go.

All that being said, you *still* want primitive survival skills in shelter building and fire making. In a crisis situation, opportunistic types are going to try to take what you have, so you need a backup in case they succeed.

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tmagann
 member, 674 posts
Mon 30 Nov 2020
at 04:02
Re: In case of the next global emergency
Mine's 12 years old, and still seems to be going ok, although I had the generator worked on 5 years back.
ShadoPrism
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Mon 30 Nov 2020
at 13:11
Re: In case of the next global emergency
we just took an old potty chair, put it in the bushes and dug a hole under it. as for 'toilet paper' we used old wash clothes, just have to wash them after each use.
praguepride
 member, 1727 posts
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 - Warhammer Fluffy-K
Mon 30 Nov 2020
at 14:47
Re: In case of the next global emergency
I love the stupid modifications they do for Top Gear and the one where they tricked out a truck to drive to the north pole was amazing:

(Warning...possibly NSFW? Its a guy going to the bathroom but camera angles hide any naughty bits)

https://youtu.be/0dPnPJ7aYRg?t=43
facemaker329
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 Gaming for over 30
 years, and counting!
Mon 30 Nov 2020
at 18:59
Re: In case of the next global emergency
In reply to ShadoPrism (msg # 13):

People did that, or some approximation of that, for ages.  It's only been a relatively recent thing that toilet paper has become a 'necessity'.
praguepride
 member, 1728 posts
 "Hugs for the Hugs God!"
 - Warhammer Fluffy-K
Mon 30 Nov 2020
at 19:55
Re: In case of the next global emergency
According to a History channel article about it, modern toilet paper was invented (or became widely available on the market) around 1857. Before then different cultures did different things depending on what was available. Before that some tools used were seashells (Demolition man anyone?), animal furs, spare scraps of fabric, a sponge on a stick called a tersorium was used in roman times. There is even a story of a gladiator going to the bath and killing himself by choking on the sponge stick. Greeks used broken pieces of ceramic, in China they cut bamboo or wooden sticks into spoon/spatula shapes.

In America farmers would use old pages from their Farmer's Almanac. It became so common to nail it up next to the latrine that Almanac began pre-drilling the hole.

China manufactured a form of toilet paper as early as the 14th century but it wasnt' really brought to western markets until 400 years later. Other fun milestones is that perforated toilet paper was manufactured in 1890 and by 1930 it was manufactured as "Splinter Free!"
tmagann
 member, 676 posts
Mon 30 Nov 2020
at 20:04
Re: In case of the next global emergency
You forgot dried corn cobs.

And the newsprint version of the Old Farmer's Almanac still comes predrilled, although that have trade paperbacks and hard covers, as well.
praguepride
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Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 00:01
Re: In case of the next global emergency
Better hope you dont have to poop more than once a day re: almanac
NowhereMan
 member, 399 posts
Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 00:21
Re: In case of the next global emergency
quote:
Better hope you dont have to poop more than once a day re: almanac


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