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Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn.

Posted by Master ServiousFor group 0
Master Servious
GM, 2209 posts
The ultimate power
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Wed 9 May 2018
at 10:40
  • msg #14

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

OOC: To clarify everyone, Devon and Aderek's players have both decided to take a hiatus of indeterminate length.  As such it is necessary to restructure the Talons and rethink your plans.
Fiarr Melan'nel
player, 481 posts
Bothan Female
Talon 6
Wed 9 May 2018
at 22:48
  • msg #15

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Fiarr wasn't overly surprised with Devon's 'redeployment'.  She'd seen how much he hated command, how the obligation weighed on him.  It didn't surprise her he'd jumped at a chance to do something else, steal ships probably.

"I think we might need to answer the question of our plans before leadership or at least accept they're intertwined.  If we stay with the Rebellion we are going to need a more 'military' face.  Kyvarr, Dohr and Arcas have military training which makes them logical choices, at least with dealing with the brass."

"However if we're going back to our wicked, more independant ways then we'll need a leader who can think more. . .fluidly.  Cor has certainly showered her ability to do that.  Sometimes I wonder how much of Devon's plans were really our friendly neighbourhood Umbaran pulling the strings."
  She raised an eyebrow at Cor.
Kyvarr 'Hammer' Dulvan
player, 459 posts
Cathar Female
Talon 5
Wed 9 May 2018
at 23:18
  • msg #16

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Kyvarr was surprised by Devon's 'side mission' especially at such a time in their planning.  Being so rigidly military, she didn't see the problem with the command stucture.  The though of 'voting' for your command chain was still foreign to her.

She looked directly at Cor.  "Chain of command seems clear to me ma'am.  If Devon is stepping down then you are the new Commanding Officer.  I guess that pushes Fiarr and myself to joint XO but we work well together.  She handles space and covert ops, I handle ground and strategy.  I'm also happy to continue serving as our contact person with the Rebellion."
This message was last edited by the player at 23:50, Wed 09 May 2018.
Kira
player, 190 posts
Human Female
Talon 2
Fri 11 May 2018
at 23:42
  • msg #17

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Kira listens to Cor, pleased to put a face to the voice she had heard a few times before. With Devon now on a seperate mission, the leadership and structure may have been up in the air, but Kira was used to such chaos....her last few years she had worked freelance.

She sat there, musing on something going over in her mind. Her skill set had been fixed for many years now, but now had some other skills.

....other opertunities

She snapped herself out of her thoughts to answer the group.

"I think that Fiarr is right....if we are to choose our path, then that path will determine who to choose. My choice would be Kyvarr if we are more military, and otherwise, i suggest Fiarr"

From what Kira knew of Fiarr, she knew that she wouldn't like that type of role, but Kira thought she would be good at it.
Cor Lambar
player, 810 posts
Talon Eleven
ID: 'Sola Numen'
Sat 12 May 2018
at 04:21
  • msg #18

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Cor blinks in surprise at Fiarr's words, but as Kyvarr speaks up the Umbaran doesn't pursue the matter.  Interrupting the flow of conversation isn't her goal right now.  She makes a couple of notes on her datapad and nods her thanks to Fiarr, then to Kyvarr, smiling a little at the gruff sergeant's input.

When Kira speaks Cor tilts her head from side to side thoughtfully, as if mulling the point over, but she nods and makes a note of the human's choices of leader, tossing a glance at Kyvarr and Fiarr to see their reactions, if any.
Heigren
player, 578 posts
Zeltron Male
Talon 4
Sun 13 May 2018
at 02:11
  • msg #19

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Heigren had sat quietly through the main talk as he wasn't technically on the team anymore.  Then again, if the Talon didn't go down the military path. . .just maybe.

"I'm actually wondering who wants the job.  I'm pretty sure Kyvarr and Fiarr could do it.  I know Cor has been doing it.  Who actually wants to stick their hand up?  I don't want it.  I've got my own business to run and that's hard enough!"

"I suggest people actually say if they want to be boss before we elect someone."


He looked around, wondering where Lin was.  He'd warned her about this meeting in advance.  Not wanting to interrupt anything, he knew how a poorly timed comm call could break a deal or a seduction, he left her a message instead.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:15, Sun 13 May 2018.
Lin Daochi
player, 66 posts
Sun 13 May 2018
at 06:15
  • msg #20

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Lin arrived in a hurry, clad in her spacer clothes and hauling a bag full of gear. ”Sorry for the late arrival”, she said looking somewhat pleased. ”But the gentlemen I was playing Sabacc with desperately wanted a chance to win their credits back.” By the sound of it, the game would probably have turned in to a firefight, had she left before it was truly over.

”So, what is going on?”
Cor Lambar
player, 811 posts
Talon Eleven
ID: 'Sola Numen'
Sun 13 May 2018
at 06:26
  • msg #21

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Cor watches Lin rush in and take a seat around the expansive table, her expression impassive, before recapping briefly.

"Devon and Mr Blaque have been called away.  As a result, the Talons are in the position of needing to vote for a new leader and to determine whether we intend to remain independent or join the Alliance.  Several people have suggested that we should address the second issue first, as it may affect who is chosen as leader.  I, personally, feel that it works both ways: just as the choice of whether to remain independent or join the Alliance may inform us of the best leader, so too would a choice of leader inform us of whether to join."

She gives a small shrug.  "Whichever way it is decided upon, I am unconcerned.  However, Heigrenn brings up an important point: many of the Talons do not want the responsibility that comes with leadership, or do not feel they are so suited.  Perhaps that, then, is where we should begin."
Heigren
player, 579 posts
Zeltron Male
Talon 4
Mon 14 May 2018
at 04:53
  • msg #22

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

"I most certainly do not want leadership of this team.  Happy to advise in my areas of expertise, but that's expected of all of us.  Happy to leave being boss to those good at it."
Cor Lambar
player, 812 posts
Talon Eleven
ID: 'Sola Numen'
Mon 14 May 2018
at 06:33
  • msg #23

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Cor doesn't make a note of that.  Apparently she doesn't need to.  She smiles Heigren's way, nodding her head slightly, a simple but genuine gesture of appreciation.  It's nonetheless touched with a little wistfulness, perhaps even sadness, but the expression passes quickly and she looks about at the Talons gathered.

"I am willing to take on the task.  As has been pointed out, I was already assisting Devon in that responsibility, to a certain degree."
B0-B1
player, 7 posts
Mon 14 May 2018
at 13:30
  • msg #24

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

B0-B1 listens to CC9s explanation of the custom of food and beverage consumption and nods, gently returning the glass to the table. He listens around the round as each person states their case as to whom should take up leadership of the group. It seemed to be a group of people unable to settle on a decision for their own person but relied on the greater decisions as a whole. He wondered how they would react if something untoward were to happen during a mission and there wasn't someone in a leadership position to give instruction.

Time would tell. It always did. I am too recent of an addition to beleive my vote holds weight, so at this stage I shall defer to the greater groups decision regarding our leadership. he states with a distinct finality.
Fiarr Melan'nel
player, 482 posts
Bothan Female
Talon 6
Mon 14 May 2018
at 21:14
  • msg #25

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Fiarr spoke up quickly.  "That's not how we work B0-B1.  At least that's not how we should work.  If you're a member of this team then you have a say in it's operation wether you've been here a day or ten years."

She looked around.  "I consider myself more a field agent than an administrator.  I guess I could lead if people want me, but I think there are people more qualified."
Kyvarr 'Hammer' Dulvan
player, 460 posts
Cathar Female
Talon 5
Tue 15 May 2018
at 01:28
  • msg #26

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

I am happy to serve at whatever level of the command chain that is required of me.  I'm not sure it's appropriate that I have seniority over people whom have served as officers, but I will take command if that is expected of me."
Mika Trake
player, 912 posts
Talon 10
Shore leave Kimy Stell
Wed 16 May 2018
at 03:48
  • msg #27

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Mika looks around the room.  The news that Devon was out for the time being was a bit of a blow to her.  She felt quite the kinship with him, and he had been one of the senior Talons.  Thinking about that, it left Mika, and Cor, as the more senior members of the team.  She'd always found it a little funny, him ending up in command.  He'd done a damn fine job, much as he liked to claim he wasn't cut out for it.

"It's a tough one.  The rebellion doesn't take well to us non-military types.  I think if we're sticking with them, then one of you military types should take the job.  I don't care much for how they do things, but I had my reasons for signing on and those are still there."

Mika looks around to see if that surprises anyone.  After all, Mika hadn't really embraced the military life.
Cor Lambar
player, 813 posts
Talon Eleven
ID: 'Sola Numen'
Wed 16 May 2018
at 07:06
  • msg #28

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Cor makes a note on her datapad, nodding at Mika's words.

"Very well.  I do think that it is best if Sergeant Dulvan remains our liaison with the Alliance whether or not we join with them, and whether or not she takes command.  Are you willing to take command if elected to do so, Ms Trake?" she asks, reminding the mechanic of the other half of the equation.
Lin Daochi
player, 67 posts
Wed 16 May 2018
at 08:03
  • msg #29

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Lin seemed to think for a moment. ”There are a few issues to resolve, really. First of all, we need to figure out, what our primary purpose is. Are we a military outfit and if we are, what sort of an outfit we are. If not, are we an intelligence team. Those questions are essential pertaining the choice of leadership. I am a new member for the team, so I am not a likely choice for a leader and even less so, if we end up being a military unit. However, if you end up deciding that I would be a good choice for a leader, I will adhere to your wishes and do my best to lead you with efficiency. One alternative, however, would be choosing the leadership for each mission, if not from all of us, then a pool of those willing and capable with the emphasis on applicable skill and knowledge concerning the mission.”
Cor Lambar
player, 814 posts
Talon Eleven
ID: 'Sola Numen'
Wed 16 May 2018
at 08:49
  • msg #30

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Cor makes a series of notes, flicking to a new screen as she does so, nodding to Lin briefly.

"Thank you, Ms Daochi.  Your input is valued.  Putting aside the team's function and future, however, we are currently attempting to discern who would accept leadership if it were thrust upon them, as that will determine much, including what type of team we may be suited to becoming.  Your willingness to lead has been noted."  She looks down at her datapad briefly.

"Currently, of those who have voiced a preference, only Heigren has indicated a distinct lack of willingness to assume leadership.  B0-B1 has somewhat defaulted to a 'no' by indicating an intention to abstain from the process entirely, which is entirely their right, as long as it is understood this is a conscious choice and not an obligation due to how new they are to the team.

"We have yet to hear the willingness of Ms Trake, Dr Veen, Ms Kira and Mr Endeel.  Ms Trake?"
she asks again, turning her gaze back to Mika.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:01, Wed 16 May 2018.
Dohr Veen
player, 522 posts
Kel-Dor Male
Talon 8
Wed 16 May 2018
at 09:10
  • msg #31

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Dohr nods at Fiarr's comment about military types, opens his mouth to say something, but then closes it again as Lin storms in. Polite as he always prefers to be, the Kel Dorian waits for another opportunity to open up. As Cor announces her willingness to take the job, Dohr nods again, this time at the Umbaran.

Once Bobi has spoken too, the Doc raises his hand to indicate he wants to say something. "I support Kyvarr's suggestion. You are the obvious choice, Cor. You are a long-standing member of the Talons and have a great deal of experience in working with Devon, Zyra and Mark."

Sensing others want to put in a word, the Doc pauses for a moment allowing them to speak before continuing: "Then again, should a leader with a military background be needed, I am willing to step up, but it is not my ambition to be a leader. As you all know I am... I was an officer in my previous life and as one have had troops under my command before. I have done extensive studies in military tactics and strategies. Whether such knowledge is required of our team depends heavily on the decision concerning our future.

However my forte lies in medicine and diplomacy. Therefore should Kyvarr assume the lead of our group, I can offer myself as the liaison between Black Talon and the rebel organisation too.


Most Talons have probably already learned that Dohr Veen doesn't wish to make a big number of himself and hates bringing up his strengths or weaknesses in any kind of discussion, even amongst friends. He is more of a quiet observer, but one with a very sharp mind. The Kel Dor isn't however afraid to act or voice his opinion when needed.
Heigren
player, 580 posts
Zeltron Male
Talon 4
Thu 17 May 2018
at 01:28
  • msg #32

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Heigren addressed Lin.  "You are partly right Lin about the sharing of leadership.  The philosophy of the Talons has always been that they're a group of independant specialists, not a group of drones.  You are all expected to step forward if the current challenge falls in your personal area of expertise.  If it's a sneak problem, talk to Fiarr.  Problem with medicine, Dohr's your guy."

"Having said that though, the team still needs a clear leader.  Someone who can facilitate all of you into a cohesive unit.  Just because one has expertise in a chosen field does not make one a leader.  Someone has to make the final call, just like Devon did."
  Heigren looks over at Cor as he says the last sentence, clearly endorsing his choice for the role.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:29, Thu 17 May 2018.
Cor Lambar
player, 815 posts
Talon Eleven
ID: 'Sola Numen'
Sat 19 May 2018
at 03:57
  • msg #33

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

(( Pushing forward at GM request. ))

Cor smiles at Dohr and puts a hand over her heart in a gesture of thanks, repeating the motion to Heigren.  Then she watches the Talons fall silent for a few moments.

"All right, if this will stimulate a decision more quickly..."

Up on the Talons' datapads pings a link to a poll, titled 'Black Talon Direction' and marked 'confidential.'  https://doodle.com/poll/s4a7wwqypuypqkdr

"Please enter your votes as to whether the Talons should remain independent or join the Alliance formally.  Your answers will remain confidential from one another and you can leave comments or not as you wish.  Once the results are in, we can then vote on a leader."  She then leans back slightly, letting the others do what they're going to do.

(( Feel free to use the above link, or PM Master Servious, or whatever.  All results will get copied to the poll eventually anyway.  And yes, if you're curious, I recently found Doodle thanks to a friend and I've been mucking about with it.  :P ))
This message was last edited by the player at 04:07, Sat 19 May 2018.
Heigren
player, 581 posts
Zeltron Male
Talon 4
Sat 19 May 2018
at 04:42
  • msg #34

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Heigren pulled up his datapad and quickly typed in his responses to Cor's poll.  Then he put his pad own and returned to his whisky drinking.
Kyvarr 'Hammer' Dulvan
player, 461 posts
Cathar Female
Talon 5
Sat 19 May 2018
at 11:30
  • msg #35

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Kyvarr picked up her pad and was going to quickly enter her data when she stopped.  She put it down and looked to the others.

"It's strange.  I know I would prefer to join the military.  It's what I'm best at.  But I've come to realise it's not what this group is best at.  Many of you are not soldiers and putting you in that kind of institution would probably counteract your various skills.  As I said I'm a perfect fit for the military but I think the Black Talons are not."

She picked up her datapad once more and made her choices.
Dohr Veen
player, 523 posts
Kel-Dor Male
Talon 8
Sat 19 May 2018
at 21:11
  • msg #36

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Cor's way of handling the situation came as a total surprise to Dohr, but as he gave it a few seconds, he realised it probably shouldn't have. It wasn't the first time things had seemed to be standing still and Cor was the one who'd gotten the wheels rolling again. The method might have been unorthodox coming from anyone else, but from Cor, the idea was just a brilliant ad-hoc way of kicking people into action.

Dohr had earlier been fairly divided in his thoughts concerning the future of the Black Talon group. On one hand, independence was something that had allowed them to stay under the imperial radar. Now, with the Rebellion, there would be none of that. The chain of command and the strategic minds of the Rebellion would tell them what to do. They wouldn't have to worry about much anything else either personally... Going solo, they would of course still have to try and avoid the evil imperial eye as much as possible, but  the Emperor's agents definitely either already had a file about them or at least of a nameless rebel cell that was wreaking havoc on his operations. Lying low might actually be a good idea for a while.

On the other hand, the Rebellion provided much needed equipment, money, weapons, information and protection. Should they go solo again, there would be very little or even no rebel resources available. That would of course mean that there would be more, a lot more freedom for the Talons to decide what they wanted to do next.

Both options were good and both were bad. And yet, Dohr knew what his decision would be. Cor had already gotten his vote and he valued independence over military might. All those years ago, even the huge Dorinian army had been no match for the far greater power Lord Vader had had under his command... Perhaps a smaller strike force would have had better chances of relieving the world from the imperial control.
Mika Trake
player, 913 posts
Talon 10
Shore leave Kimy Stell
Sun 20 May 2018
at 00:57
  • msg #37

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

Mika laughs out loud at Cor's repeated question.  She hadn't taken the first time as a serious question, but the repeating of it draws Mika's attention.

"If you guys are looking to have a former swoop punk and current spanner jockey in the drivers seat, then sure I'd be willing to give it a go."  She stops to consider a bit more and looks to the others.  "I don't think anyone here is all that interested in my taking the leadership role, but if it were to go that route, one of you military types would very quickly assigned the task to be the Rebellion liaison."

She looks on in amusement as Cor sets up a poll for the choices.  "Well, put me down for sticking with the Rebellion and for the leadership role, I'll support Cor.  She's done more of that with the Talons than any of the rest of us and she's been with the team as long as any of us about."
B0-B1
player, 8 posts
Mon 21 May 2018
at 11:45
  • msg #38

Act: 8.0.2 - Prologue: A new, new, dawn

B0-B1 listens quietly to the arguements back and forth, both about leadership and each individuals percieved role within the talon outfit. He has largely remained quiet owing to his unfamiliarity with the group as a whole, only really having these proceedings to understand what the members are like. Once Cor sends out a vote request he quickly reviews the options and casts his vote, stepping forward after he does so to address the group.

”I had initially abstained from voting based on my recent inclusion to the black talon outfit. It has been made clear that time does not generate my value to the team, merely the inclusion itself, and whilst this concept is somewhat foreign to me, I can appreciate its significance. I am new, so I am coming to understand my role within the outfit, and I am not wishing to step on any toes, but this group seems to be most willing to defer to other people’s opinions rather than risk making the wrong choice for the group. Leadership is a difficult task to undertake, and any leader will make choices that are, as such, ‘wrong’, but it becomes our duty to work together to make the best of any situation.

To me, Cor has shown the most administrative element of leadership. This is not to suggest that she is not a decisive person, merely that she does not wish to create demands in such a delicate time for the group. However, I am willing to predict that she is capable of making those difficult calls in a moments notice when required, as is needed from leadership. Even if she were to maintain orbital distance during missions it would not diminish her overall leadership ability, this is where a mission leader would come into play, with greater command still being in her hands. Cor has my vote for the position of greater leadership of the talons.

Secondly, our position within the alliance is a difficult one to decide. The talons are already flagged by the Empire, so choosing to remain independent may remain more lucrative but there is no “playing both sides”. Do not take this as a betrayal element, merely the ability to talk our way out of capture with the imperial forces. The rebel alliance will employ our services as independents and welcome us as allies. We have to make a decision about this to which we all feel most comfortable; freedom to do more or less as we please independently or fall into another chain of command within the alliance, with further people to defer to, but more reliability to find work. I would personally like to see the alliance show us everything they can do for us before we sign ties with them; we do not need to take the carrot offerered without negotiating our position first. If a vote MUST be made, I vote independent operation for now provided the rebel alliance will continue to table the offer to join. Allow the carrot to get bigger before we bite it.”


He steps back and allows the room time to process. He had not yet been this forward and knew that it was a lot of information that could be taken in many ways.

OOC: so that everyone is aware, I’m currently vacationing, so the time I have to jump on here is relatively limited, but I will try to keep as up to date as possible
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