Jhael
 GM, 8 posts
Fri 27 Sep 2002
at 08:40
Re: Questions, Comments, Concerns & Etc.
I just worry that we're losing sight of the end game in the details.

There are more important things to worry about. Like me getting more players in my game. Through threat of violence if necessary ;)
Shannara
 GM, 12 posts
 Treasurer
 
Fri 27 Sep 2002
at 11:40
Re: Questions, Comments, Concerns & Etc.
Board member sounds good to me.

And, personally, IF there are any votes to be cast, I'll be considering what others have to say about it and not just my own opinion.  (assuming that I'm voting).  I also think that anyone here should be able to voice his/her concerns about any FRPOL issue however they want.

I don't think we need to worry too much about all this - let's not complicate things and stir up the buncha hoopla that 'elections' *shudder* seem to create.  If there's an issue, get it out there and talk about it.  Compromise, to me, is better than voting any old day.  And, quite frankly, I don't expect to be voting on a lot.

If things come up that cause me to resign (or be 'removed') as treasurer/collection rep (whatever), I have the responsibility mindset that will make sure I give enough notice that a smooth and easy transition can be made with whoever picks up it up.

Now ... I vote with Jhael.  Let's not complicate things any more than is ABSOLUTELY necessary. :P
dollsteak
 GM, 32 posts
Fri 27 Sep 2002
at 11:58
Re: Questions, Comments, Concerns & Etc.
I'm not complicating a thing.  I was seeking to clarify the position.  Now it doesn't matter.  Problem solved.
Shannara
 GM, 14 posts
 Treasurer
 
Fri 27 Sep 2002
at 12:57
Re: Questions, Comments, Concerns & Etc.
Dollsy ... *sigh* .... No, leaving annoyed feelings, which is definitely what I'm 'hearing' in your post, isn't problem solved.

Guess that I'll just go back to my collecting and holding funds til woof gives me a yell as to what to do with them.
dollsteak
 GM, 34 posts
Fri 27 Sep 2002
at 13:18
Re: Questions, Comments, Concerns & Etc.
I'm annoyed at a number of things... and I don't intend on being a part of an Inner Circle.  It would make me a hypocrit.  IMHO, John needs to change the structure to allow the public in and permission to vote.

This message was last edited by the GM at 13:18, Fri 27 Sept 2002.

JohnB
 GM, 20 posts
Fri 27 Sep 2002
at 19:08
Re: Questions, Comments, Concerns & Etc.
In the UK a Rep is a travelling salesman - they represent the organisation they come from.  Simple as that.

More over -  we have not started a democratic organisation -  we  have  started a group of  people to  help RPoL  in what ever  ways they can.  The current position is that there are four Friends of RPOL -  me , Doll, Shan, and BBR.  No one  else  was at the meeting that formed the society.  According to the rules  we accepted between us  only those  four  people have a vote (ATM), although we deliberately  made it possible  to add more people as we went along.

Nor is FoRPoL  set up as a user community  for getting information between users and the RPoL Admin - they manage they successfully on their own.

FoRPol  is there, as a formal organisation, soley to  collect funds - and at the moment it  does that on the back of Shannara (in the US) and me (in the UK) - we are using our credit cards to guarantee and back the paypay accounts, and bank accounts  opened on the strength of Shan's IRS  number and my  credit record.

So I am lost as to  why we  should make it  more democratic or  how it  could be  seen as part of an inner circle.

As to the 'Country' role -  I  don't  care  what  we call it -  it is  there primarily so that people can open bank accounts in the Friends of RPoL  name, in their own country, if  we want them to.  Its  always  good to have two reps  so that  there is  someone local to  keep an eye on what is happening  with any local accounts.
bigbadron
 GM, 8 posts
 He's big, he's bad, but
 most of all, he's Ron...
Fri 27 Sep 2002
at 19:43
Re: Questions, Comments, Concerns & Etc.
That's what I thought, that I was here to keep an eye on Johnb and make sure he stayed honest ;o)

Seriously, I think it's a good idea to have two representatives/grand-high executioners/supreme pooh-bahs, whatever you want to call them, in each country.  That way if more than one signature is needed for a bank account or whatever, then there is somebody already set up to help out.
Same goes for if the main rep suddenly went senile (well Johnb is getting on a bit), or (heaven forbid) died, you need a second named person to step in and sort out the bank account.
The title doesn't matter, somebody is needed to organise bank details, and it's better if the people doing it are familiar with the local system of banking.

So, you can call it "A guy who knows a bit about Country X banks and financial stuff", or you can call it "Country X rep".  Does it really matter, so long as the money gets through the system to where it's needed?
Razewun
 member, 2 posts
Fri 27 Sep 2002
at 20:13
Minutes of the meeting
Hi guys,

Is there a place where the minutes of the meeting, or at least an outline of discussion and decisions made/tabled, are posted?

I can see a need for care, since we are separated by a common language, of how we interperet certain words.  Being an Enlishman relocated to Arizona I know some of the problems - particualrly when I asked a lady colleague here if she had a "rubber" I could borrow.

I have to agree I see this less as a democracy or republic. It is a place somone has taken the time to set up, and asked for assistance to keep it going, quite fair.  As a donating player, I have no particular "rights" to anything - I am just helping to keep something I am enjoying going.  If it stops being fun, then the donations stop, so as a dynamic it will affect the decisions of the owner(s).

The best we can expect is a forum and, because of the potential volume for "input", it would be proper to have an organised conduit system to keep it under control.  It may be that each coutry does need a representative, and eventually a regional reps - may this break down to state/county/big city reps - who knows?

Just as an aside, a representative in UK could be a salesman representing his company, it is also what a Member of Parliment is supposed to be doing for his constituents.  In the US it is also a saleman term, but applies to the person chosen to represent the contituents of a State in Government.  Same thing in many ways, just a different use of nomenclature.

As Yoda might say "Common language, separated by, are we"

Anyway, let me know how I can help.

Peace,

Raymond : )

This message was last edited by the player at 20:13, Fri 27 Sept 2002.

dollsteak
 GM, 40 posts
Fri 27 Sep 2002
at 21:33
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Well, if you need two people for financial reasons from each country, you're missing quite a few countries.  And I cannot do anything financial, so someone else is needed.  Voila.  That's pretty much what I said from the beginning.

Razewun, the notes of the meeting are on the web site.
JohnB
 GM, 22 posts
Fri 27 Sep 2002
at 22:28
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Doll -   you are one ofthe best scrutineers in the whole of the obline gaming community -  and you can do that within the comitment level you  set out originally -  and I  hope you continue to  do that.

I  think our biggest  country is the US - and  it is an especially responsible position  making sure that shan does her job properly (not the I  doubt her in the least) .  But I  can't think of anyone who is better at  tying us  down to  proper behaviour  :)
lou
 member, 1 post
Sat 12 Oct 2002
at 03:57
Re: Minutes of the meeting
I could help with the banking in Australia.

I am a banker in  Perth, Western Australia, Woofs home town.

I can get the group a fee- free account for donation purposes in Australia (which is a big deal given that Australia is the second most expensive country in the World for banking).

Let me know what I can do.
woof
 GM, 12 posts
Sun 13 Oct 2002
at 05:54
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Sounds bloody good t' me, lou!
alphapred
 member, 1 post
Sat 19 Oct 2002
at 11:27
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Sorry, I must be a real dummy but could some one explain the practicalities of making a donation, I imagine that somewhere on the net is a form I can fill in with my card details and such, where should I look?
alphapred
 member, 2 posts
Sat 19 Oct 2002
at 11:32
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Nevermind, found it, perhaps there should be a note of the FoRPoL web page on the 'how to donate' thread.
JohnB
 GM, 44 posts
Sat 19 Oct 2002
at 16:49
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Alphapred -  done

Lou -  will be a short  while before  we  can deal  with your offer :)  BUT  that  doesn't  mean  we have forgotten you  :)
alphapred
 member, 3 posts
Sat 19 Oct 2002
at 17:01
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Thank you kindly sir.
dollsteak
 member, 14 posts
Sun 22 Dec 2002
at 11:10
Re: Minutes of the meeting
So ... for the "Friends of Role-Play Online" group, you sure are a rather unfriendly lot.  There should be more socializing going on... more reminders about the Paypal stuff... more thoughts on raising money and seeking volunteers.

I know Shannara's got a busy RL situation.  But what about you, John and you BBR?  Too busy as well?  Who's minding the shop?
bigbadron
 GM, 25 posts
 He's big, he's bad, but
 most of all, he's Ron...
Sun 22 Dec 2002
at 11:37
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Currently holding the meeting in a board on this site.  Because of RL difficulties (not just for Shan) we decided to do it this way instead of by chat this time (it was just too difficult to get a time when people could all be present).
As for the rest of it... some of it is already being dealt with.  Wait and see.
dollsteak
 member, 15 posts
Sun 22 Dec 2002
at 11:41
Re: Minutes of the meeting
*sigh of relief*

Glad to know you're still alert.
cartman
 member, 1 post
Sun 22 Dec 2002
at 14:52
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Being alert is good. Just don't through spagetie at me.
Namshaske
 member, 5 posts
Sun 22 Dec 2002
at 22:58
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Still working on both a set of FAQs, and on a set of possible graphics for Woofy to use as he sees fit. Not sure if Spike sent the last batch (Never did get feedback from Woof on them, *grin*), but I'm working on a new player's FAQ at the moment, and wondering if I should bother cleaning up the GM's FAQ that's no doubt at the bottom of Beginners by now.
cartman
 member, 2 posts
Mon 23 Dec 2002
at 01:02
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Well do people still even look at those? I do I just try to act wierd. But I mean that the epople that just now get in rpol do they notice them? When I first started I didn't even see it.
Namshaske
 member, 6 posts
Mon 23 Dec 2002
at 01:10
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Cartman:

Hopefully that will be resolved, and the FAQs be a mandatory read before people make new accounts, *grin*. That, would solve nine tenths of any troubles we have right then and there.
cartman
 member, 3 posts
Mon 23 Dec 2002
at 01:13
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Oh I would like to qout that games that will couse should be in adult. Because there is a digimon game that does this. Im just cocerned that if a child gets on sees the word then uses it at home the parents may do something. Or then again it could just be a semi problem.
woof
 GM, 13 posts
Mon 23 Dec 2002
at 05:56
Re: Minutes of the meeting
Sorry I didn't get back to you Nams!

I thought they were all good, with the possible exception of the red ones being too dark.

Touching up/finding a replacement for the thread icons would be a good area to target.  At the moment they're transparent gifs with fairly well defined image borders so they work on all the colour schemes (well, they work well enough...)

Forcing people to read the FAQs would be a good idea, however it'd spoil one of the nicer things about RPoL... how easy it is to join.  Well, IMHO.