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Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters.

Posted by DM SoloFor group 0
DM Solo
GM, 167 posts
Wed 13 Mar 2013
at 11:36
  • msg #1

Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters


  * Points of Interest The arena boundaries are the outer walls, 30' above ground level, and 10' below ground level.
    * There is a transparent wall of force ceiling 30' above ground level.
    * One combatant starts at position A, the other at B.
    * The ground consists of rough marble (hardness 10, hp 10 per cubic foot (or 20 hp per inch over a 5 ft by 5 ft square) with a 6 inch deep layer of sand on top. The sand increases the hardness of the stone by +5, but you can scoop all of the sand out of a 5 ft by 5 ft area with a full round action (which prompts an AOO).
    * The sand is fine-grained and white, and does not impede movement. Walking on it grants a +4 circumstance bonus to Move Silently checks. The sand is too fine and light to be used as a weapon.
    * The walls are made of rough marble, and are 30 ft high. Climbing the side of a wall is DC 20.
    * The pillars are also made of rough marble. They are approximately 5 ft in diameter, and a 5 ft tall section of a pillar is 100 cubic feet. However, you can bring a pillar down by narrowing your focus a bit. The minimum damage you need to deal to bring a pillar down is 25 cubic feet, or 250 damage.
    * Breaking a pillar with sudden force is a STR check (Hardness 10, Hit Points 1000, stone, one piece: DC 30.
    * Climbing the side of a pillar is DC 20. When you can reach the top edge of a pillar, it is DC 10.
    * The top of the pillars are flat-topped and rough, and make good standing platforms.
    * Diagonal movement between the central pillars offers enough space for Large creatures to move unimpeded, and Huge and Gargantuan creates to move while squeezed.

Elias in A, Adamar in B. Begin!
Adamar Venali
player, 100 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Wed 13 Mar 2013
at 11:58
  • msg #2

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Adamar once again strode into the arena. Once in the elf began to prepare, drawing two daggers in the blink of an eye. Once his daggers were out the Beguiler began to spell cast, the first increasing his speed and the second causing 3 doppelgangers of himself appear around him. The elf and his images look over one another and the four of them smile and nod in approval.

Prep Round 1:
  [Move]
  [Free] Quick Draw: Draw Daggers
  [Standard] Cast Expeditious Retreat

Prep Round 2:
  [Move]
  [Free]
  [Standard] Cast Mirror Image

Status:
  Initiative: 11
  AC (Touch AC): 18(14)

  Damage Taken:
  Damage Dealt:

Effects:

 *Expeditious Retreat: +30' to movement, Duration: 4 minutes

 *Mirror Image: 3 extra images, Duration: 4 minutes

Final Position: O08
Elias St Clair
player, 7 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Wed 13 Mar 2013
at 17:08
  • msg #3

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Elias stepped into the arena and conjured up a beast of burden from Waukeen's marketplace before casting a protective spell over himself.

Prep Round 1:
  [Move]
  [Free]
  [Standard]
  [Full] Summon Monster III

Prep Round 2:
  [Move]
  [Free] Celestial Bison appears
  [Standard] Cast shield of faith

Status:
  Initiative: 1
  AC (Touch AC): 21(13)

  Damage Taken:
  Damage Dealt:

Effects:

 *Celestial Bison (B/C-8/9) AC 13 (touch 9) DR 5/magic, SR 10

 *Shield of Faith (+3 deflection)

 *Deity's Favor (3 temp HP)

Start Position: A-8
Final Position: A-8

Equipped: (L)Rod, (R)Nunchaku, (L)buckler, chainmail
Adamar Venali
player, 101 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Thu 14 Mar 2013
at 10:42
  • msg #4

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

OOC: Ok, I've read the description of this arena several times now and can NOT find how high the pillars are. I know I've fought here before but I just can't remember how high they are.
DM Solo
GM, 171 posts
Thu 14 Mar 2013
at 12:03
  • msg #5

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

20' high.
Adamar Venali
player, 102 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Thu 14 Mar 2013
at 17:55
  • msg #6

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

As the gong sounded Adamar and his three images took off, his hands sliding the daggers back into their sheaths on his harness. As the elf hit the center pillar he began to climb, reaching about half way up the pillar and then activating the anklet he wore teleporting him the rest of the way. Once on the top he quickly drew his bow and fired an arrow, his aim off.
"Well, well, looks like it's two against one." the elf says down to the cleric and his holy beast.

Round 1:
  [Free] Sheath daggers
  [Move] Move 30' to center pillar, Climb 10': 23
  [Swift] Activate Anklet of Translocation: Teleport 10' to top of the pillar
  [Free] Quick Draw: Draw Bow
  [Standard] Fire arrow at Eli: 18 (MISS!)

Status:
  Initiative: 11
  AC (Touch AC): 18(14)

  Damage Taken:
  Damage Dealt:

Effects:

 *Expeditious Retreat: +30' to movement, Duration: 4 minutes

 *Mirror Image: 3 extra images, Duration: 4 minutes

Final Position: H08, 20' up
Elias St Clair
player, 11 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Fri 15 Mar 2013
at 12:29
  • msg #7

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Elias stayed back, content with the defense his bison provided. With power borrowed from his scepter, Eli evoked Waukeen's cloud of coins to strike his friend, landing a solid blow.

Round 1:
  [Move]
  [Free]
  [Standard]
  [Full] Extended Spiritual Weapon - hits with crit - no confirm - 6 damage

Status:
  Initiative: 1
  AC (Touch AC): 21(13) + 4 cover

  Damage Taken:  0
  Damage Dealt: 6

Effects:

 *Celestial Bison (B/C-8/9) AC 13 (touch 9) DR 5/magic, SR 10, 2r - ready move action for Adamar leaving pillar

 *Shield of Faith (+3 deflection) 2r

 *Deity's Favor (3 temp HP) 2r

 *Extended Spiritual Weapon 1r

Start Position: A-8
Final Position: A-8

Equipped: (L)Rod, (R)Nunchaku, (L)buckler, chainmail
13:11, Yesterday: Elias St Clair rolled 1 using 1d4. mirror images, 1 is adamar.
13:09, Yesterday: Elias St Clair rolled 6,9 using d20+3,d8+2. crit confirm damage sw adamar.
13:09, Yesterday: Elias St Clair rolled 23,6 using d20+3,d8+2. sw attack adamar.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:30, Fri 15 Mar 2013.
DM Solo
GM, 179 posts
Fri 15 Mar 2013
at 12:53
  • msg #8

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

OOC: Minor comment is that the spiritual weapon strikes using your BAB Elias, which is now +4.
Adamar Venali
player, 105 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Fri 15 Mar 2013
at 14:51
  • msg #9

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

OOC: so as far as spells goes, how does cover effect that? And is Eli behind total cover?
Elias St Clair
player, 12 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Fri 15 Mar 2013
at 20:25
  • msg #10

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

In reply to Adamar Venali (msg # 9):

Rules say in a 5ft square of a wall between us you need a foot to establish line of effect. I don't think I should have total cover from this though.

I am 35 feet away on the horizontal plane and 20ft away vertically. The actual diagonal is 40 but D&D has funny diagonal rules. So D-8 is 30ft away and I am 45 ft.

I checked because of that power word pain of yours :)
Adamar Venali
player, 106 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Fri 15 Mar 2013
at 23:25
  • msg #11

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Adamar had witnessed the cloud of coins do it's work many times and did not want to be taken out by it so easily. The elf channeled a portion of his magical energy into his gloves and fired off two magical bolts of energy into the celestial bison. Before the bolts hit the elf leapt off backwards from the pillar and landed on the ground next to the pillar, his images once again shuffling as he moved, the fall causing his ankles to buckle just enough to cause a bit of pain.

Round 2:
  [Standard] Activate Gloves of the Starry Sky: Cast Magic Missile: 2 missiles damage: 7
  [Move] Jump from pillar, Tumble Check: 30, Falling damage: 6

Status:
  Initiative: 11
  AC (Touch AC): 18(14)

  Damage Taken: 12
  Damage Dealt: 7Bison

Effects:

 *Expeditious Retreat: +30' to movement, Duration: 4 minutes

 *Mirror Image: 3 extra images, Duration: 4 minutes

Final Position: I08
This message was last edited by the player at 20:09, Tue 19 Mar 2013.
Elias St Clair
player, 13 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Mon 18 Mar 2013
at 20:23
  • msg #12

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Expeditious retreat gives you a +12 to your jump check. You're long jumping 15 feet from a standing position so the DC is 30. I think that gives you only a 28 unless your speed is greater than 60.

Dc 15 reflex save to grab the other pillar at the end of your movement, if you did fail your jump check by 2 as it seems.
DC 15 climb check to pull yourself up (part of a new move action).
Adamar Venali
player, 107 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Mon 18 Mar 2013
at 20:48
  • msg #13

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

In reply to Elias St Clair (msg # 12):

How do you figure the jump is 15'? There's only a 5' square in betwee. So shouldn't that only be 10'?
Elias St Clair
player, 14 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Mon 18 Mar 2013
at 21:01
  • msg #14

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Diagonals alternate between 5ft and 10ft. It costs 15ft of movement to move two squares diagonally. It's the official 3.5 movement rules. I used to think actual geometry was involved and that one diagonal was 7ft of movement, but someone pointed me to the real rules in the SRD. Makes diagonals slightly more costly than they should be if you go an even number or slightly cheaper for odd.
Zar'Da
player, 241 posts
7th lvl Dragon Shaman
2wins/6 losses
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 01:46
  • msg #15

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

OOC: *sigh* I feel that this is going to be another over before it begins battles where my character is beaten to death by a summoned creature, crappy rolls and rules that make little sense to me. But, I'm willing to let it play out. Would you be opposed to me revising my previous turn because I would not even bother trying to jump if the DC were so high.
Elias St Clair
player, 15 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 02:22
  • msg #16

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

No problem with you redoing it. You did have almost a good enough roll though. Nice +12 from your extra 30ft of movement. ALMOST makes up for the lack of a running start.

And I'll avoid summoning a horde of monsters if that makes things any better.
DM Solo
GM, 184 posts
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 08:39
  • msg #17

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

OOC: Actually, climbing on top of the pillar is a DC10 check as per the rules of this map.
Elias St Clair
player, 16 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 08:48
  • msg #18

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Oops. Missed that. I assumed it was different in this situation for failing a jump and just barely catching the edge just because the jump skill says it does, but these pillars are nicer than the skill :)
DM Solo
GM, 185 posts
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 08:49
  • msg #19

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

They are, maybe there are etched grooves along the edge or something :-)
Adamar Venali
player, 108 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 17:35
  • msg #20

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

OOC: I edited my post.
DM Solo
GM, 190 posts
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 18:51
  • msg #21

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Adamar, did you make a jump check jumping down? It's rather trivial (DC 15) to reduce the falling distance by 10', and your tumble check ought to do the rest.
Adamar Venali
player, 109 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 18:57
  • msg #22

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

I did. I rolled 1d6 for damage and of course rolled max.
DM Solo
GM, 191 posts
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 19:09
  • msg #23

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

But if you pass the jump check and the tumble check there is no falling distance left to take damage from?
Adamar Venali
player, 110 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 19:59
  • msg #24

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

OOC: Oh, I didn't know you could roll both. Does a 23 jump help?
DM Solo
GM, 192 posts
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 20:04
  • msg #25

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Of course you can, it's separate skills. Yes, that would handily beat the DC and you avoid taking damage.
Adamar Venali
player, 111 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 20:09
  • msg #26

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Sweet, I will edit once again.
Adamar Venali
player, 112 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 20:10
  • msg #27

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Adamar had witnessed the cloud of coins do it's work many times and did not want to be taken out by it so easily. The elf channeled a portion of his magical energy into his gloves and fired off two magical bolts of energy into the celestial bison. Before the bolts hit the elf leapt off backwards from the pillar and landed on the ground next to the pillar easily.

Edited Round 2:
  [Standard] Activate Gloves of the Starry Sky: Cast Magic Missile: 2 missiles damage: 7
  [Move] Jump from pillar, Tumble Check: 30, Jump Check: 23, No falling damage

Status:
  Initiative: 11
  AC (Touch AC): 18(14)

  Damage Taken: 6
  Damage Dealt: 7Bison

Effects:

 *Expeditious Retreat: +30' to movement, Duration: 4 minutes

 *Mirror Image: 3 extra images, Duration: 4 minutes

Final Position: I08
This message was last edited by the player at 20:47, Tue 19 Mar 2013.
Elias St Clair
player, 17 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 21:44
  • msg #28

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Check for sr 10?
Adamar Venali
player, 113 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 22:47
  • msg #29

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Oh yeah, what is that roll again?
Elias St Clair
player, 18 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Wed 20 Mar 2013
at 03:12
  • msg #30

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Adamar Venali:
Oh yeah, what is that roll again?

Caster level check. Essentially an attack roll.

D20+ your caster level. Must hit or beat the SR value (10).

Unless you have practiced spellcaster (beguiler) or the glove uses a caster level of its own, your caster level is 4. So d20+4.
Adamar Venali
player, 114 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Wed 20 Mar 2013
at 10:42
  • msg #31

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Spell Resistance: 16 (PASS!)
Elias St Clair
player, 19 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Wed 20 Mar 2013
at 14:44
  • msg #32

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Once Adamar left the pillar, the Bison chased after him, having readied itself for just that occasion. The Bison moved around the north (H/I-6/7) after Adamar landed on the ground.

Eli moved south, straining to get into position to see Adamar. Once he had the beguiler in his sights, he directed the cloud of coins to attack the elf again, hitting his image with great success.

The Bison grunted and gored Adamar with its mighty horns, dealing a significant blow of damage... to an image!

Eli laughed in mild frustration, "I almost believed I had you with that last attack!"

Round 2:
  [Move] retarget SW on Adamar - hits AC 23 for 8 damage - destroys image
  [Free]
  [Standard] Move to D-13
  [Full]

Status:
  Initiative: 1
  AC (Touch AC): 21(13)

  Damage Taken:  0 (Bison: 7)
  Damage Dealt: 6 (2 images destroyed)

Effects:

 *Celestial Bison (H/I-6/7) AC 13 (touch 9) DR 5/magic, SR 10, 3r - Gore Adamar - hit AC 29 for 20 damage - destroys image

 *Shield of Faith (+3 deflection) 3r

 *Deity's Favor (3 temp HP) 3r

 *Extended Spiritual Weapon 2r

Start Position: A-8
Final Position: D-13

Equipped: (L)Rod, (R)Nunchaku, (L)buckler, chainmail

09:41, Today: Elias St Clair rolled 3 using 1d3. mirror images, 1 is adamar, bison attack.
09:41, Today: Elias St Clair rolled 2 using 1d4. mirror images, 1 is adamar, SW attack.
09:36, Today: Elias St Clair rolled 29,20 using d20+10,d8+12. Bison gore Adamar.
09:30, Today: Elias St Clair rolled 23,8 using d20+4,d8+2. SW attack adamar.
Adamar Venali
player, 115 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Fri 22 Mar 2013
at 10:52
  • msg #33

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Adamar tried to tumble away from the bison but failed opening himself up for an attack, thankfully his images reshuffled so there was a chance to escape once again unscathed. Once away from the bison Adamar ran to the edge of the arena and fired a blast of color at Elias and disappeared while doing so.

Round 3:
  [Move] Tumble 10': 12(FAIL), provoke AoO, continue move to J13
  [Standard] Cast Blinding Color Surge: WILL save vs DC 14 or be blinded for 1 round, Adamar invisible.

Status:
  Initiative: 11
  AC (Touch AC): 18(14)

  Damage Taken: 6
  Damage Dealt: 7Bison

Effects:

 *Expeditious Retreat: +30' to movement, Duration: 4 minutes

 *Mirror Image: 1 extra images, Duration: 4 minutes

Final Position: J13
Elias St Clair
player, 21 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Sat 23 Mar 2013
at 04:10
  • msg #34

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

The Bison gored Adamar as he fled and then chased after the beguiler, stabbing into the space he disappeared from, possibly with great success.

Eli followed the Bison, shrugging off Adamar's spell easily. Eli swiped into the empty seeming space but he failed to strike anything.

Round 3:
  [Move] Move to J-14 from D-13
  [Free]
  [Standard] attack into J-13 - miss even if Adamar there.
  [Full]

Status:
  Initiative: 1
  AC (Touch AC): 21(13)

  Damage Taken:  0 (Bison: 7)
  Damage Dealt: 22 (2 images destroyed) or 39 if Adamar in J13

Effects:

 *Celestial Bison (H/I-11/12) AC 13 (touch 9) DR 5/magic, SR 10, 4r - AOO v Adamar - hit AC 29 for 16 damage - hits Adamar - moves to H/I-11/12 - attack into J13 - hit ac 22 for 17 damage if Adamar is in square (50% miss chance, but I hit)

 *Shield of Faith (+3 deflection) 4r

 *Deity's Favor (3 temp HP) 4r

 *Extended Spiritual Weapon 3r

Start Position: D-13
Final Position: J-14

Equipped: (L)Rod, (R)Nunchaku, (L)buckler, chainmail


23:03, Today: Elias St Clair rolled 10,8,1 using d20+7,d6+3,d2. Eli attack into J13 hit on 2 if there.
22:59, Today: Elias St Clair rolled 22,17,2 using d20+10,d8+12,d2. Bison attack into J13 hit on 2 if there.
22:48, Today: Elias St Clair rolled 29,16,1 using d20+10,d8+12,d2. bison gore adamar aoo hit on 1.
22:48, Today: Elias St Clair rolled 23 using 1d20+5. save v blind.

Adamar Venali
player, 116 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Sun 24 Mar 2013
at 14:47
  • msg #35

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Adamar knew this was about over. While invisible the elf moved and healed a little.

Round 4:
  [Move] Move to ???
  {Standard] Activate Healing belt:6

Status:
  Initiative: 11
  AC (Touch AC): 18(14)

  Damage Taken: 33 (39-6healed)
  Damage Dealt: 7Bison

Effects:

 *Expeditious Retreat: +30' to movement, Duration: 4 minutes

 *Invisibility: 4rounds

Final Position: ???
Elias St Clair
player, 22 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Mon 25 Mar 2013
at 19:24
  • msg #36

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

"Take your time!" Eli shouted. He waited.

The bison moved around, sniffing for Adamar. (If within 30 ft of I/J-7/8, let me know which direction the bison will face or pinpoint Adamar if within 5ft)


Round 4:
  [Move]
  [Free]
  [Standard] ready action to redirect spiritual weapon on Adamar
  [Full]

Status:
  Initiative: 1
  AC (Touch AC): 21(13)

  Damage Taken:  0 (Bison: 7)
  Damage Dealt: 39

Effects:

 *Celestial Bison (I/J-7/8) AC 13 (touch 9) DR 5/magic, SR 10, 5r - move to I/J 7/8 and use Scent ability to detect Adamar direction if within 30ft

 *Shield of Faith (+3 deflection) 4r

 *Deity's Favor (3 temp HP) 4r

 *Extended Spiritual Weapon 3r

Start Position: D-13
Final Position: J-14

Equipped: (L)Rod, (R)Nunchaku, (L)buckler, chainmail


23:03, Today: Elias St Clair rolled 10,8,1 using d20+7,d6+3,d2. Eli attack into J13 hit on 2 if there.
22:59, Today: Elias St Clair rolled 22,17,2 using d20+10,d8+12,d2. Bison attack into J13 hit on 2 if there.
22:48, Today: Elias St Clair rolled 29,16,1 using d20+10,d8+12,d2. bison gore adamar aoo hit on 1.
22:48, Today: Elias St Clair rolled 23 using 1d20+5. save v blind.

</quote>
Adamar Venali
player, 117 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Mon 25 Mar 2013
at 19:36
  • msg #37

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

OOC: I just realized you moved right up next to Adamar last round. Now, wouldn't that have caused an AoO??
Elias St Clair
player, 23 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Mon 25 Mar 2013
at 20:21
  • msg #38

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

There's only an AOO where you move through a square that is threatened. So, if I moved around Adamar in a circle or something like that, I would provoke... But there is no AoO for moving INTO a threatened square.

I believe both the Bison and Elias only moved into threatened squares, but not through, unless you have 10ft reach.

You don't provoke any AOO's from your movement as you are invisible.
Adamar Venali
player, 118 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Mon 25 Mar 2013
at 20:25
  • msg #39

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

You know what, at this point I'm going to concede. I'm so close to death anyways, and once i become visible the bison will just gore the crap out of poor Adamar. So, congrats!
Elias St Clair
player, 24 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Mon 25 Mar 2013
at 20:28
  • msg #40

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Bison lasts one more round. I'm only level 6 and I can't extend a full round action spell :(

Still, if you didn't show up soon I was going to just create a few more spiritual weapons and amass a beatdown crew while I waited.

Still fairly certain I'm going to win.
Adamar Venali
player, 119 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Mon 25 Mar 2013
at 22:42
  • msg #41

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

In reply to Elias St Clair (msg # 40):

I didn't know you could use more than one spiritual weapon at a time. Either way I know when I'm beat. I really should start opening with Power Word Pain.
Levis Luna
player, 146 posts
Human Shadowcaster - 6
W- 3/L- 1/D-1
Mon 25 Mar 2013
at 23:06
  • msg #42

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Levis screams "HACHAA!"

Surprise Round:
[Swift] Flicker out of nowhere.
[Full round] Cast Maximized killing shadows on both of you for 48 damage.

Initiative: ∞
AC: ∞(∞)

Damage taken:
Damage dealt: 48

Effects: Flicker (∞ rounds left).

Final position: Everywhere...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Seriously though. Good fight. Those summoned critters really make a fight tough. Good job both of you.
Adamar Venali
player, 120 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Tue 26 Mar 2013
at 00:09
  • msg #43

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Personally I hate, no DETEST fighting someone who summons a creatue. It's like going to fight someone and they invited their buddy to come kick your ass too. In my opinion, if you are fighting someone who is of your level you should not be able to use a summoned creature. It becomes too much. That said, I don't fault someone for using all in their power to win the fight as long as it's in the rules to do so, and until someone makes a rule that if you are fighting someone your level or lower there is a ban on summoned creature then by all means keep bringing in those little balance tippers :)

Just my 2 copper.
Elias St Clair
player, 25 posts
Favored Soul of Waukeen 6
Human
Tue 26 Mar 2013
at 01:33
  • msg #44

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Next level Eli will become a Malconvoker. So. Summoning is what he does. I have all of three level three spells, the only offensive one being summon monster.

Power Word: Pain would have been tough, but with fast healing and temp Hp I should have been fine.

Spiritual Weapon is like its own summoned thing. Self sustaining attack monkey until a target dies or vanishes. You just need to maintain line of sight with the weapon itself, not necessarily the target. No limit on how many you can have. Still requires a standard action to cast and a move action to redirect it.

Eli is a favored soul so he's pretty gimped. Eli only has good charisma and an okay strength, con, and int. So I can't really use any spells with DC's because those are based off of wisdom while casting is based off of Charisma. FS get very little love from the books. So glad for the Deity's Favor alternate class feature :)

But I love this guy :)

Good match. Even though I'm specifically built as a summoner, we could do a no-summons match... Mirror image is a headache but I'll manage (close your eyes or have blindsight and the images are useless!)
Adamar Venali
player, 121 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Tue 26 Mar 2013
at 01:54
  • msg #45

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

In reply to Elias St Clair (msg # 44):

Nah, I'm in two other matches right now and I think I'm going to give Adamar a rest. Well done though. And don't take my rant personally, I just seem to get my butt handed to me by people's "pets" in matches and it just grates on me.
DM Solo
GM, 213 posts
Tue 26 Mar 2013
at 08:41
  • msg #46

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Good game, both of you! Summoners are a pain to fight, I totally agree (like monstrous scorpions...). Unfortunately the arenas we have right now don't suit skillfull characters like Adamar very well, and those classes have a harder time anyway surviving arena matches. Still, these fights do serve a purpose in training for the "real deal" in the campaigns.
Adamar Venali
player, 122 posts
4 beguiler/3 fighter
1win/2loses/1draw
Tue 26 Mar 2013
at 15:47
  • msg #47

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

I get it, my rant sounds a bit silly because I used the scorpion in my Kail/Ossian match but I stand by what I say, and Kail will not be using the scorpion unless he fights someone of a higher level.
DM Solo
GM, 218 posts
Tue 26 Mar 2013
at 18:17
  • msg #48

Re: Elias vs Adamar in Close Quarters

Hey I'm guilty as charged, too! Just wanted to show that summons do typically tip the advantage heavily in one direction.
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