OOC.   Posted by Kaze no Kage.Group: 0
Tsuruchi Sumi
 player, 25 posts
 Butei academy actress
 Meek and very beautiful
Mon 20 Jul 2009
at 01:41
Re: OOC
Hey, have a great time!
Tsuruchi Sumi
 player, 26 posts
 Butei academy actress
 Meek and very beautiful
Mon 27 Jul 2009
at 04:06
Re: OOC
Damn! I forgot I hadn't posted here yet. I'll a post up tonight or in the morning.
Tsuruchi Sumi
 player, 28 posts
 Butei academy actress
 Meek and very beautiful
Wed 29 Jul 2009
at 00:48
Re: OOC
Sorry again. My memory is shot these days. I got distracted again and never did post.
Kaze no Kage
 GM, 554 posts
Thu 30 Jul 2009
at 07:21
Re: OOC
okay, maybe I'm blind, but does anyone know what the normal benefit to wielding two weapons is?  I mean for anyone who's not a Mirumoto bushi
Tsuruchi Sumi
 player, 29 posts
 Butei academy actress
 Meek and very beautiful
Thu 30 Jul 2009
at 07:43
Re: OOC
I have asbolutely no idea. Although, I know enough game systems to confidently say that it would not surprise me at all if there were no benefit to it. It could likely be that the Mirumoto bushi are the only ones who gain a benefit and for everyone else its either a hindrance or just does nothing.

The structure of the game as it is, being focused on each clan and family's particular tricks and specialties makes me expect that it might be that way.
Daidoji Sakura
 player, 424 posts
 Crane Clan Shugenja
 Beautiful and Seductive
Thu 30 Jul 2009
at 12:59
Re: OOC
In 3E "standard", it depends on the weapon, but for most of them there is a penalty with no benefit. A few of them there is no penalty, but no benefit either. For a select few (I'm thinking of the War Fan, actually), there is a benefit ... but you still might take a hit on your "main" weapon (see Ambidexterity). A couple skills (or is it just Knives?) call something out as well. Warfan, Knives, Wakizashi, certain staves, and a few peasant weapons would be the "different ones" IIRC.

In 3E Revised, there is a slight benefit -- if you are wielding two weapons and call raises for an added attack, you can use your second weapon on any target in range (3E mandates all attacks must be against the same target). Considering how worthless added attacks are in 3e (for all but a few select schools, most notably the Tsuruchi Archers), that's an improvement.
Kaze no Kage
 GM, 574 posts
Tue 18 Aug 2009
at 03:06
Re: OOC
Daidoji Sakura:
In 3E Revised, there is a slight benefit -- if you are wielding two weapons and call raises for an added attack, you can use your second weapon on any target in range (3E mandates all attacks must be against the same target). Considering how worthless added attacks are in 3e (for all but a few select schools, most notably the Tsuruchi Archers), that's an improvement.

I'm thinking about adding an additional benefit to duel wielding:  1 free raise that can only be applied to a combat maneuver (i.e. feint, disarm, extra attack, but not to added damage), 2 free raises if you have ambidexterity

I'm kind of afraid that this will make Kedo totally unstoppable in combat ^_^ but also that it will make the Jujutsu skill a bit broken

thoughts?  questions?  comments?
Kedo
 player, 282 posts
 Would you stand
 upon the mountain?
Tue 18 Aug 2009
at 03:11
Re: OOC

 I'm inclined to say that, from my personal RL experience, there should be an advantage only to trained dual wielding - otherwise you just get in your own way.

 I'd imagine the ability to use a second weapon as distinct from ambidexterity (the ability to use either hand equally well), but of similar value in points, bought as a trained advantage.

 The ability should be similar to, but less powerful than, the level one Miromoto ability which improves attack and defence. They're the acknowledged masters of using two weapons after all.

 At this point however, my vision gets cloudy - and Kedo don't need no more help chopping on things, gah. Though he remains horribly vulnerable to a good shot that does get through. ^_^
Daidoji Sakura
 player, 427 posts
 Crane Clan Shugenja
 Beautiful and Seductive
Tue 18 Aug 2009
at 12:56
Re: OOC
Honestly, that sounds a bit much to me. If you use the 3ER rule -- if you call the raises for two attacks, you can attack a second target -- that, and the rules currently in place, should be sufficient.

IRL, things are not so clear. As Kedo says, and speaking from personal experience, having two weapons is not enough to create an advantage.

The advantage lies within the Warrior, not within the tools he or she chooses to use.
Tsuruchi Sumi
 player, 36 posts
 Butei academy actress
 Meek and very beautiful
Fri 28 Aug 2009
at 23:25
Re: OOC
My apologies to all, my life has taken a turn for the worse, and I don't know when or even if I'll be back on line. The most I can guarantee is that I will return when able. Sorry for the inconvenience this causes.
Kaze no Kage
 GM, 580 posts
Sat 29 Aug 2009
at 02:54
Re: OOC
no worries, RL takes precedence
Daidoji Sakura
 player, 431 posts
 Crane Clan Shugenja
 Beautiful and Seductive
Mon 14 Sep 2009
at 02:06
Re: OOC
*breaks out a deck of cards*

Anyone up for a game?

;p
Kedo
 player, 285 posts
 Would you stand
 upon the mountain?
Mon 14 Sep 2009
at 08:47
Re: OOC

 As ever, Kedo doesn't gamble... but he's watching you. ^_-
Kaze no Kage
 GM, 583 posts
Tue 15 Sep 2009
at 14:08
Re: OOC
still here guys, but in a rough patch at work.  I'll be cutting out some of my other RPoL games, but not this one.  Thanks for your patience ^_^
Daidoji Sakura
 player, 432 posts
 Crane Clan Shugenja
 Beautiful and Seductive
Tue 15 Sep 2009
at 15:01
Re: OOC
Now who said anything about gambling? I was thinking about the game called Bull S&^% ... ;p

Don't worry, boss -- long as you're still here. I've had more than one game where the GM just disappeared ...
Kedo
 player, 286 posts
 Would you stand
 upon the mountain?
Wed 16 Sep 2009
at 20:47
Re: OOC

 We'll wait boss, don't you worry... and thanks for sticking with us.
Kedo
 player, 287 posts
 Would you stand
 upon the mountain?
Sun 27 Sep 2009
at 19:38
Re: OOC

 Woooo, the man is back ladies and gentlemen!
Kaze no Kage
 GM, 592 posts
Mon 5 Oct 2009
at 14:07
Re: OOC
Hey guys, I've been roped into going to 5th grade camp as a counselor, and I won't have internet access from Tuesday until Friday.
Miya Momoko
 player, 1 post
Sat 10 Oct 2009
at 13:32
Re: OOC
Okay, howdy folks - one Miya family, crane-trained duelist here... looking for an opening into the game, so if you can think of a good place to get me into the story, i'd love to know :)
Kedo
 player, 291 posts
 Would you stand
 upon the mountain?
Sun 11 Oct 2009
at 20:59
Re: OOC

 Hey there Miya... Kedo's got a bit of a past with the Crane, but through a swordsmith family rather than a duellist one. Good luck though, and welcome aboard!
Miya Momoko
 player, 2 posts
 Crane Hostage
 Kakita Trained...
Sun 11 Oct 2009
at 21:01
Re: OOC
thanks Kedo ... im looking forward to joining in :)
Bayushi Kenshin
 player, 68 posts
 Scorpion Junshin
 Kakita Bushi Academy
Mon 12 Oct 2009
at 02:17
Re: OOC
Hello, Miya-Sama! This Crane-Trained Bayushi Duelist would like to know if there is a reason you're using a Scorpion picture for your portrait?

(P.S I'm required by law to mention that I am Junshin ... ;D )
Miya Momoko
 player, 3 posts
 Crane Hostage
 Kakita Trained...
Mon 12 Oct 2009
at 06:50
Re: OOC
no reason what so ever, just liked the pic... and it was the nearest fit :)
Bayushi Kenshin
 player, 69 posts
 Scorpion Junshin
 Kakita Bushi Academy
Mon 12 Oct 2009
at 13:31
Re: OOC
Kenshin has pretty much spent his life at the Kakita Dueling academy, from Coup to the recent reinstatement of the Scorpion. (He was one of the children "fostered" to the Crane). There's probably a good chance that we've met.
Miya Momoko
 player, 4 posts
 Crane Hostage
 Kakita Trained...
Mon 12 Oct 2009
at 16:15
Re: OOC
Miya has been living in or near the kakita academy all her life... she is more crane than Miya really, and would recogise her own father.  So other Imperial families might have have trouble recognising her, while she would know of most of the key Crane political leaders and such

and thier fostered children... :)