The Mess (General OOC)   Posted by Cap'n Rae.Group: 0
Cap'n Rae
 GM, 3014 posts
 Tour Director
 Narrator
Wed 17 Jun 2015
at 17:59
Re: Kudos

Let's hold off on a turn post until tomorrow. We're still waiting on a couple of players to post IC, and I'd like an idea of how you're going to approach the city.

To clarify, Norbert's intel suggests that Grudziaz is under Red Army control but open to travelers and merchant traffic, and that as long as you're not in uniform or advertising that there are current/former NATO troops aboard the tug, you should be able to move pretty freely about the city. In other words, it's time for a little urban adventure.

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This message was last edited by the GM at 18:01, Wed 17 June 2015.

Jan Cerny
 player, 1721 posts
 Sergent Chef, FFL
 Mahatatain
Fri 19 Jun 2015
at 13:19
Re: Kudos
Rae, when you have time please can you add Thijs' Intel to the map?

Thanks,

Andy
Anders Mattson
 player, 135 posts
 Kapteeniluutnantti
 mediiic
Fri 19 Jun 2015
at 17:56
Re: Kudos
Happy Midsummer, gentlemen!

As the resident Finn, I must educate you on the subject. The Midsummer Eve has been celebrated for centuries and the original idea was to sacrifice ale and liquor to the old gods, so they'd provide a good harvest the coming autumn. The more drunk you got, the better the blessing. Midsummer Eve also includes sauna, drunken debauchery (and as no surprise, a reasonable baby boom nine months later) and occasionally drowning with one's fly open in one of the numerous lakes, rivers or the murky waters of the Baltic preceded by a drunken attempt to pee in to the water from a rowboat while standing.
Cap'n Rae
 GM, 3017 posts
 Tour Director
 Narrator
Fri 19 Jun 2015
at 20:12
Re: Kudos

Interesting. Thanks, Mediiic.

@All: I'd like to write and post the next turn tomorrow afternoon. I need to know how y'all intend to approach the city. Here are a few options:

1. Steam right to the city pier in the tug.

2. Send a recon team in the Princess to the city pier.

3. Land a recon team outside the city and walk there.

Of course, you don't have to order from this menu. These are just some suggestions to get the ball rolling.

Thanks.

Rae

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Griet Niewiadomska
 player, 852 posts
 CPO, Polish Navy
 mark101
Fri 19 Jun 2015
at 20:43
Re: Kudos
OK, I suggest that we head in under what's left of our own steam.

Any attempt at scouting is pretty much going to blow our cover as merchants.

Everyone get into civvie or some of the Soviet gear we have taken over the months, there should be enough of a mix to make us blend in without looking like a bunch of PACT deserters.

I'd like two groups: one to focus on the parts we need and any ammo we can scrounge up and one to buy food and if we can trade gold for some sort of cargo, if we're merchants we need to be buying stuff as part of our cover and if we are travelling north it'll be better if we can convert some of the gold we have into goods that are easier to trade anyway.

I'd have liked to have planned some more and consulted people in more detail but we're pretty much out of time.

If anyone has any changes they'd like to suggest I'm saying we go with something like this:

American group:
Lizzie and her crew can go ashore and do anything they need

Parts Group:
Bayer takes half of our active original PCs to see if they can trade for parts and essentials

Food Group:
Jan leads and Mariusz accompanies along with any other active original PCs to by food and see if they can scare up a cargo.

If any of Lizzie's group would rather accompany another team that's fine, Griet wouldn't suggest it yet though as it would look like she was trying to break up the group and leave them isolated.

I'll assign trade goods to each team once I've checked the stores in another post.

As an aside, Griet will be asking Josef to make the best steam we can risk getting into port. If they see we're limping in any parts we try to buy will be at a premium. If it looks like we can take of leave them we might not be as horrible fleeced as we otherwise would. If Josef says we can't, we'll just have to grin and bear it.
Griet Niewiadomska
 player, 854 posts
 CPO, Polish Navy
 mark101
Fri 19 Jun 2015
at 20:48
Re: Kudos
Looks like the American team and food team are merging which is totally cool.
Griet Niewiadomska
 player, 855 posts
 CPO, Polish Navy
 mark101
Fri 19 Jun 2015
at 20:56
Re: Kudos
I'm suggesting the following distribution of trade goods and gold.

Food Group:
6 AK-74 and 12 empty mags (we keep the ammo)
50 gold bullets (if values are more than this, it'll be a down payment)
Priorities
Food: we need 16 man days of rations every day.
A week's supplies would be good so 120 days would be ideal (bulk is OK for a third but at least 80 days worth will need to be domestic rather than "wild" ideally)
More food as cargo (bulk would be fine)
Up to 1 tonne of wood (more if cheap)
Any cargo up to 4 tonnes that is likely to sell for a profit

Parts Group:
RPD (no ammo)
Sig 550 2 mags (no ammo)
Wz 91/98/26 (8 rds)
6 AK-74 and 13 empty mags (ditto with ammo)
50 gold bullets (likewise with down payments)
Priority Buys:
Parts we need (still not specified)
Any other parts on spec
5.56mmN (we can say we need to trade it further north)
7.62mmR belted
7.62mmS
12 gauge
23mm, any
30mm grenades
Minor wishes:
40mm grenades (Western ideally but PACT too)
Medical gear:
First aid kit equivalents could be good. If there is an abundance we could stock up as part of our trade goods

Any other bargains will be OK if we have enough gold.

Try to trade gold first over goods but don't lose a purchase just to try and keep the guns.

Again, anyone want to refine this, please do, but I'm trying to give Rae something to go on without constantly rewriting IC posts to suit.

As it is, given the time differences, once I go to bed in about 30 minutes I probably won't be on again until after Rae has posted.

I'm assuming that we've been picking up clothes and webbing etc but that most has been used as disguises. If we have anything of value that I've missed, chime in.

Unfinished...

This message was last edited by the player at 21:07, Fri 19 June 2015.

Mark Scully
 player, 16 posts
 E7, USN SEALs
 Dave Ross
Fri 19 Jun 2015
at 21:26
Re: Kudos
Just to be clear, Scully is volunteering to stay aboard.
Eric Phillips
 player, 17 posts
 18 Bravo, 10th SFG
 Spartan-117
Sat 20 Jun 2015
at 00:04
Re: Kudos
Anders Mattson:
Happy Midsummer, gentlemen!

As the resident Finn, I must educate you on the subject. The Midsummer Eve has been celebrated for centuries and the original idea was to sacrifice ale and liquor to the old gods, so they'd provide a good harvest the coming autumn. The more drunk you got, the better the blessing. Midsummer Eve also includes sauna, drunken debauchery (and as no surprise, a reasonable baby boom nine months later) and occasionally drowning with one's fly open in one of the numerous lakes, rivers or the murky waters of the Baltic preceded by a drunken attempt to pee in to the water from a rowboat while standing.


Today's high was what, 59 degrees there?  Summer... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk  lol
Craig Sutherland
 player, 715 posts
 Lt., 42 Cdo, RMC
 Cymon
Sat 20 Jun 2015
at 00:14
Re: Kudos
In reply to Griet Niewiadomska (msg # 94):

Some 7.62mmN would probably be useful as well, if we can get it for a good price. I think there are still a few on board using it.
Robert 'Tuck' Tucker
 player, 1653 posts
 P Sgt., 10th MD
 Corkman
Sat 20 Jun 2015
at 01:44
Re: Kudos
Let me know where you need Tucker to go.  I have to go to a third job this evening...
Anders Mattson
 player, 136 posts
 Kapteeniluutnantti
 mediiic
Sat 20 Jun 2015
at 04:36
Re: Kudos
In reply to Eric Phillips (msg # 96):

The joke is, in bible it rained for fourty days and nights and they called it a catastrophy. We call it a summer in Finland. ;)
Griet Niewiadomska
 player, 856 posts
 CPO, Polish Navy
 mark101
Sat 20 Jun 2015
at 07:00
Re: Kudos
In Wales we call that a crippling drought.
Jelena Tamm
 player, 14 posts
 Red Army Deserter
 Silent Hunter
Sat 20 Jun 2015
at 09:43
Re: Kudos
Anders Mattson:
Happy Midsummer, gentlemen!

As the resident Finn, I must educate you on the subject. The Midsummer Eve has been celebrated for centuries and the original idea was to sacrifice ale and liquor to the old gods, so they'd provide a good harvest the coming autumn. The more drunk you got, the better the blessing. Midsummer Eve also includes sauna, drunken debauchery (and as no surprise, a reasonable baby boom nine months later) and occasionally drowning with one's fly open in one of the numerous lakes, rivers or the murky waters of the Baltic preceded by a drunken attempt to pee in to the water from a rowboat while standing.


Not just a Finnish thing of course; the other Nordic nations do it as well. The British just seem to get drunk all the time.
Jan Cerny
 player, 1725 posts
 Sergent Chef, FFL
 Mahatatain
Sat 20 Jun 2015
at 12:20
Re: Kudos
In reply to Jelena Tamm (msg # 101):

Harsh but true. :)



Rae, is it cold enough that we need thermal fatigues?

Ta,

Andy
Jan Cerny
 player, 1726 posts
 Sergent Chef, FFL
 Mahatatain
Sat 20 Jun 2015
at 21:38
Re: Kudos
Mark Scully:
Scully turns towards the guy in mostly Brit uniform that talked wierd. He remembered Konrad had indicated that this guy and Tucker were his sub team commanders, but couldn't remember the dude's name.

Even if the SEAL stayed aboard the tug there was a possibility it might be boarded for whatever reason while it was tied up alongside. And whilst the guy's logic could be applied in reverse to mean that just because Scully was wearing U.S. BDU's that didn't automatically make him American, if the guy was offering it wouldn't do any harm to look like he was from somewhere else, although he can't help but chuckle wryly at the comment about looking like a mercenary.

So after a second or so he nods. The guy looked to be around the same size as him, maybe an inch or so shorter, close enough that it shouldn't make any difference. "Ok, that would work." The tall American nods. "Thanks." Then, after a noticeable pause, he extends his right hand. "I'm Scully." No first name, no rank, just Scully.

Dave - just to say that when I can next post IC I'll include a response to this (even though the scene has moved on) where Jan introduces himself to Scully.

Thanks,

Andy.
Cap'n Rae
 GM, 3019 posts
 Tour Director
 Narrator
Sat 20 Jun 2015
at 23:17
Welcome to Grudziaz!

Yes, it's cold enough for winter wear. I don't have any personal experience with thermal fatigues, though, so I can't tell you if they would be overdoing it or not.

@All:

Turn is up. It's a long one. If you want to engage with the harbormaster, that's fine. Just separate retro actions from current actions in your IC post (use the hr command code to split your post).

I need to know who wants to go ashore. If you're planning on missing turns this week, it would make more sense for your PC to remain on board the tug.

There might be some action soon, but there'll definitely be a lot more talking. If that latter doesn't float your boat, once again, it's probably better that your PC remains aboard the tug.

I put a little joke in the turn post. It's pretty esoteric but if you're a British hipster or hipster Anglophile, you might just get it. It's a long shot, but I'll give +1 XP to the first person who calls it.

As always, let me know if you have any questions.

Rae

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This message was last edited by the GM at 23:32, Sat 20 June 2015.

Craig Sutherland
 player, 716 posts
 Lt., 42 Cdo, RMC
 Cymon
Sat 20 Jun 2015
at 23:51
Re: Welcome to Grudziaz!
Craig wants to go ashore.


Cymon.

This message was last edited by the player at 07:51, Sun 21 June 2015.

Griet Niewiadomska
 player, 859 posts
 CPO, Polish Navy
 mark101
Sun 21 Jun 2015
at 07:34
The Queen's armament.
I've been thinking about the Z00-2. It's a heavy old gun and we have one burst of ammunition for it. Would it make sense to see if we could trade it off for something lighter but maybe with more ammo.

I was thinking about asking around here to see if we could trade the Zoo-2 for something like a ZPU-2 or even 1 if the additional goods were worthwhile.

I have a feeling that if we could get something like a KPV rig with more ammo rather than the 23mm we could fire it more often and retire one of the DsHKs in order to conserve 12.7mmB ammo.

In my opinion, more ammo for the weapons we have is a better deal than having the heavier weapon with cripplingly limited ammo. Ideally we'd be able to trade for some 30mmHE, any 82mm mortar rounds thy can scrape up and still get a lighter weapon to replace the auto-cannons. In addition it might keep the Russian garrison sweet and make us look more like merchants.

I'm not totally wedded to the idea though, I'm just floating it for discussion.

What does everyone think?
Craig Sutherland
 player, 717 posts
 Lt., 42 Cdo, RMC
 Cymon
Sun 21 Jun 2015
at 20:36
Re: The Queen's armament.
In reply to Griet Niewiadomska (msg # 106):

I agree. It is also a death trap for anyone that tries to use it and takes return fire. Other than the low bath tub defense it is mounted in there is no protection for the gunner. Single KPV in some sort of naval mount would be a good alternative, of course comes down to what is available.

This message was last edited by the player at 00:27, Mon 22 June 2015.

Elizabeth 'Lizzie' Kane
 player, 13 posts
 Lt. Cmdr., USN
 keys138
Sun 21 Jun 2015
at 22:47
Re: The Queen's armament.
Crazy busy Father's Day, I will get a post up in the morning.

(And Happy Father's Day to those so inclined!)

This message was last edited by the player at 22:48, Sun 21 June 2015.

Robert 'Tuck' Tucker
 player, 1655 posts
 P Sgt., 10th MD
 Corkman
Mon 22 Jun 2015
at 00:11
Re: The Queen's armament.
In reply to Griet Niewiadomska (msg # 106):

Agreed.  Not a bad idea, the DShK's are the ships back bone any how.

This message was last edited by the player at 00:14, Mon 22 June 2015.

Robert 'Tuck' Tucker
 player, 1657 posts
 P Sgt., 10th MD
 Corkman
Mon 22 Jun 2015
at 00:28
Re: The Queen's armament.
Also, I'm having surgery this week, Thursday (nothing major), so I will be off line for a couple of days and depending on the wi-fi at the hospital.  That being said, if you think that keep Robert on the side lines for this jaunt into town, that's cool with me.
Jan Cerny
 player, 1727 posts
 Sergent Chef, FFL
 Mahatatain
Tue 23 Jun 2015
at 07:21
Re: The Queen's armament.
Sorry, had some RL stuff to sort out and missed some posts.  Is Jan with the shore party please?
Jan Cerny
 player, 1729 posts
 Sergent Chef, FFL
 Mahatatain
Tue 23 Jun 2015
at 22:26
Re: The Queen's armament.
Apologies for the delays but I've now posted IC.



Dave (and others) - I don't know what clothing you want to borrow (Scully has mentioned Russian combat trousers which is unfortunately one thing that Jan doesn't have) but Jan has the following that people can borrow:

 - Black winter Polish tanker's jacket with fur lining
 - Czech Woodland vz.95 pattern fatigues
 - Swiss TAZ 90 Woodland pattern fatigues
 - US BDUs Woodland pattern (probably not wanted)

Jan will be wearing Polish Army combat trousers (Puma camo pattern) and a Red Army winter field jacket, fur-lined in Soviet leaf-pattern camouflage with a black hooded sweatshirt underneath.

Sorry for being a detail freak.....

Andy.