The Mess (General OOC)   Posted by Cap'n Rae.Group: 0
Jelena Tamm
 player, 29 posts
 Red Army Deserter
 Silent Hunter
Tue 7 Jul 2015
at 13:42
Re: Deal or No Deal?
Indeed. Very sorry to hear about that.
Jan Cerny
 player, 1738 posts
 Sergent Chef, FFL
 Mahatatain
Tue 7 Jul 2015
at 22:17
Re: Deal or No Deal?
In reply to Anders Mattson (msg # 135):

Sorry for your loss.  Hope you and your family are ok.



Sorry I haven't posted myself.  I've had a lot of work on suddenly but I'm planning to post IC tomorrow morning UK time on my way into work.

Apologies for the delay.

Andy
Cap'n Rae
 GM, 3040 posts
 Tour Director
 Narrator
Wed 8 Jul 2015
at 17:24
Re: Deal or No Deal?

Can I assume that you are going to accept the job? Is there anything else you want to ask for in payment for taking the general and a few of his men to Malbork? A couple of you have mentioned ammo and weapons. Griet mentioned (OOC, IIRC) trying to get a ZPU-4 with ammo in trade for the ZU-23-2 and its 22 rounds of 23mm API. Is there anything else that you'd like to ask for specifically?

I'd really like to wrap this up and get y'all back on the river. I don't know if y'all are busy or bored or both. It'd be great if the leadership cadre, Konrad, Griet, and Lizzie, could get in a decisive IC post today. As it is, I don't feel comfortable moving things past the negotiation phase- if I do, you're only getting what little you've already been offered/asked for IC.

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This message was last edited by the GM at 17:31, Wed 08 July 2015.

Robert 'Tuck' Tucker
 player, 1676 posts
 P Sgt., 10th MD
 Corkman
Wed 8 Jul 2015
at 17:44
Re: Deal or No Deal?
How about food and rounds for the DShK?  What about gun shields and armor?
Cap'n Rae
 GM, 3041 posts
 Tour Director
 Narrator
Wed 8 Jul 2015
at 17:47
Re: Deal or No Deal?
Robert 'Tuck' Tucker:
How about food and rounds for the DShK?  What about gun shields and armor?


Food's already part of the deal. Dishka rounds have not been asked for IC (unless I missed it, which is entirely possible). Every HMG already has a gun shield. Armor for what? The bridge already has armored shutters for all of its windows (too much will make the tug dangerously top-heavy, though), and the Vasilek has its armored barbette.

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Griet Niewiadomska
 player, 874 posts
 CPO, Polish Navy
 mark101
Wed 8 Jul 2015
at 18:08
Re: Deal or No Deal?
f the General just wans a lift we'll settle for food and fixing the engine. If that's the case we'll need a quick meeting with the ORMO guy to try and switch the Z00-2 for the following:
ZPU-2 with 500 rounds per gun
1,000 rounds of 12.7mmB
The other guns will be traded for 100 rounds of ammo we need.
That's the starting bid anyway.

If he wants to go for the attack option we will suggest:
As many rounds of 23mm as he can spare we will fire what we need to in the battle and return any unused ammo apart from 100 rounds we keep as payment.
The same for the 82mm but we only keep 10 rounds of our choice as payment.
(If they have 81mm 0r 60mm ammo we can knock up sabots if they don't already have them)
Ditto Dushka Ammo but we keep 500 rounds as payment.

We still trade the small arms for ammo with the ORMO.

How does this sound?
Mark Scully
 player, 34 posts
 E7, USN SEALs
 Dave Ross
Wed 8 Jul 2015
at 18:38
Re: Deal or No Deal?
In reply to Griet Niewiadomska (msg # 143):

I haven't had an opportunity to be involved in any of this IC, but I'm not sure I actually follow what you're suggesting?

Rearm the tug and embark a detachment of Soviet troops (the best General Zolnerowich has available)?

Get a message (somehow) to General Chilikov that Zolnerowich is en route (I presume you mean to tell Chilikov that Zolnerowich is travelling aboard the tug)?

Have Zolnerowich's troops look for anyone sneaking out of Grudziaz with the nuclear demolition charge. If they do intercept them and then the tug turns around?

If they don't you get another message to Chilikov telling him that you've taken Zolnerowich prisoner and you want to arrange a meeting with Chilikov to hand Zolnerowich over?

Hope that Chilikov turns up and kill him? Or if he doesn't turn up hope he sends his spetsnaz and kill them?

Have I got that right?

If so I may be missing something, but isn't that likely to attract a lot of attention to the tug? And if he has got a suitcase nuke and is prepared to use it Chilikov doesn't need to do anything except plant it somewhere up river and detonate it as the tug passes.
Griet Niewiadomska
 player, 875 posts
 CPO, Polish Navy
 mark101
Wed 8 Jul 2015
at 18:42
Re: Deal or No Deal?
Yes to all of that.

I am aware it's a wild pan and I'm happy for others to suggest other things. It is at least a start for planning to work from even if all the ideas are totally rejected. I'm not going to bitch if holes are picked in it but we need to start the discussion somewhere even if it's "Hell no we ain't doing that."

This message was last edited by the player at 18:46, Wed 08 July 2015.

Mark Scully
 player, 35 posts
 E7, USN SEALs
 Dave Ross
Wed 8 Jul 2015
at 18:46
Re: Deal or No Deal?
In reply to Griet Niewiadomska (msg # 145):

Wouldn't it be simpler to sneak Zolnerowich aboard the tug and try to deliver him to Malbork without attracting that level of attention? Possibly in conjunction with a diversionary column going overland so Chilikov thinks Zolnerowich is en route by road instead.
Griet Niewiadomska
 player, 876 posts
 CPO, Polish Navy
 mark101
Wed 8 Jul 2015
at 18:59
Re: Deal or No Deal?
It might well be, although the tug may have been lit up on the KGB's radar now. Well worth discussing though and far simpler.
Elizabeth 'Lizzie' Kane
 player, 24 posts
 Lt. Cmdr., USN
 keys138
Wed 8 Jul 2015
at 19:31
Re: Deal or No Deal?
I will have a full post up this evening, but we have to draw the nuke out.  It's the only way to level the playing field so our adversary doesn't hold the trump card.
Jan Cerny
 player, 1740 posts
 Sergent Chef, FFL
 Mahatatain
Wed 8 Jul 2015
at 21:45
Re: Deal or No Deal?
In reply to Griet Niewiadomska (msg # 143):

I think that we should also take the opportunity to try to obtain any of the following that the General or other merchants in the city can supply.  In addition to what has already been discussed I think that we should try to obtain:

 - shells for the mortar

 - 30mm ammo for the AGS-17

 - belted ammo for the PKMs

 - 40mmN grenades for those with NATO GLs

 - shotgun shells

 - small arms ammo in general

 - winter clothing for everyone

 - batteries

 - electronics such as radios and NVGs

 - medical supplies

Now some of this can be bargained for in return for transporting the General but we also have a number of spare weapons and a load of gold to trade.  We haven't found anywhere before where we could even attempt to trade the gold so I think that we should grab the opportunity here.

Does that make sense?

If you want me to do so I can put together a list of gear we have that we're looking to trade.

Ta,

Andy.
Elizabeth 'Lizzie' Kane
 player, 26 posts
 Lt. Cmdr., USN
 keys138
Wed 8 Jul 2015
at 22:01
Re: Deal or No Deal?
Is this where I say, under no circumstances do I think Corkman is a bad person?
Robert 'Tuck' Tucker
 player, 1679 posts
 P Sgt., 10th MD
 Corkman
Thu 9 Jul 2015
at 01:15
Re: Deal or No Deal?
Elizabeth 'Lizzie' Kane:
Is this where I say, under no circumstances do I think Corkman is a bad person?

It's a game, nothing person if I read you right?
Elizabeth 'Lizzie' Kane
 player, 27 posts
 Lt. Cmdr., USN
 keys138
Thu 9 Jul 2015
at 02:03
Re: Deal or No Deal?
Correct sir, nothing personal.  I just try to be careful when my character gets opinionated.
Cap'n Rae
 GM, 3043 posts
 Tour Director
 Narrator
Thu 9 Jul 2015
at 18:14
Moving On

Turn is up and its another long one. I had a lot to cover since the last turn post; if I missed something, please don't take it personally. Kindly let me know and I will edit as needed. As before, if you have stuff you wanted to do before the tug leaves Grudziadz, you can still post it.

Ken Takanori is an NPC medic intended to replace some of the medical skills lost with Anneka's death and Larue's departure.

For post-departure posts, I need you to include your PCs station/location on board the tug.

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This message was last edited by the GM at 20:07, Thu 09 July 2015.

Minh Quyen
 player, 721 posts
 SP4, U.S. Army MP
 JinnySong2
Thu 9 Jul 2015
at 19:58
Re: Moving On
Nowe? I'm getting deja vu.
Robert 'Tuck' Tucker
 player, 1682 posts
 P Sgt., 10th MD
 Corkman
Thu 9 Jul 2015
at 20:20
Re: Deal or No Deal?
Elizabeth 'Lizzie' Kane:
Correct sir, nothing personal.  I just try to be careful when my character gets opinionated.

No offense taken.
Griet Niewiadomska
 player, 878 posts
 CPO, Polish Navy
 mark101
Thu 9 Jul 2015
at 21:43
Re: Deal or No Deal?
Did the harbour master get a chance to set up a meet with the ORMO? We were hoping to try and trade the excess weapons for small arms ammo. Things were probably very busy  though.
Jelena Tamm
 player, 32 posts
 Red Army Deserter
 Silent Hunter
Fri 10 Jul 2015
at 14:51
Re: Moving On
Cap'n Rae:
To replace some of the medical skills lost with Anneka's death and Larue's departure.

For post-departure posts, I need you to include your PCs station/location on board the tug.

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Is my one OK? Jelena won't be too visible until we've parted company with these Russians... unless we get attacked.
Anders Mattson
 player, 146 posts
 Kapteeniluutnantti
 mediiic
Fri 10 Jul 2015
at 15:52
Re: Moving On
On my post, I shall now comment here as well. Being a native Finnish-speaker and knowing enough Estonian to order beer and tell someone to piss off as well as a few select other things even without studying the language, in my opinion the two languages are very close to one another. I suggest, basic things spoken in Finnish or Estonian should be possible to understand with either an easy check or no check. More complex concepts might probably require a check of increased difficulty. Just for realism, that is...
Cap'n Rae
 GM, 3044 posts
 Tour Director
 Narrator
Fri 10 Jul 2015
at 16:48
Re: Deal or No Deal?
Griet Niewiadomska:
Did the harbour master get a chance to set up a meet with the ORMO? We were hoping to try and trade the excess weapons for small arms ammo. Things were probably very busy  though.


Thanks for the reminder. Let me make some dice rolls and let you know what deal/s the ORMO are willing to make.

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Griet Niewiadomska
 player, 880 posts
 CPO, Polish Navy
 mark101
Fri 10 Jul 2015
at 18:33
Re: Deal or No Deal?
The AGS-19 has been a great weapon but if we can't get any ammo for it would it be an idea to trade it for any 40mm they might have as well as more small arms ammo? What we have left won't buy much, I'll try to offer gold too but I can't see the ORMO trading guns for geld.
Griet Niewiadomska
 player, 881 posts
 CPO, Polish Navy
 mark101
Fri 10 Jul 2015
at 18:48
Re: Deal or No Deal?
How about this for a priority list?

Buy
30mm ammo for the AGS-17 1

 - belted ammo for the PKMs  3

 - 40mmN grenades for those with NATO GLs 2

 - shotgun shells 9

 

 - winter clothing for everyone 9

 - batteries 6

 - electronics such as radios and NVGs 4

 - medical supplies 5

7.62mm Belt or loose 7
5.56mmN 8

Sell:
12 AK-74s and the empty mags 1
RPD  4
Converted Moisin Nagant 3
2/3 G3s 5
G11 2
Up to 10 40mm BG-1 grenades (only for NATO Grenades) 6
Cap'n Rae
 GM, 3045 posts
 Tour Director
 Narrator
Fri 10 Jul 2015
at 21:08
Re: Deal or No Deal?

Since you want 30mm ammo for your AGS-17, I'll allow Griet to retroactively ask the General for it. I rolled a d100 and it came up 100, so your Plamya ammo worries are officially over.

I did the same for your two PKMs and came up with a total of 101 rounds.

And for winter clothing. The Soviet quartermaster can provide winter clothing for everyone who needs it. It's a benefit of being near a Red Army cantonment supply dump. Who needs Red Army winter coats and pants? Your choice of brown or camo.

Batteries, radios, and NVGs are all no-goes. Neither the Soviets or the ORMO are willing to part with any electronics.

Same goes for med supplies. However, Ken pocketed some when he dipped from the hospital so you're still coming out ahead there.

The ORMO will trade you 19 40mmN HE grenades, 170 rounds of 7.62mmN, and 50 rounds 5.56mmN for all of the weapons and ammo that you've offered, except the G3s and the G11, which they don't want. It's a take it or leave it deal. Let me know.

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This message was last edited by the GM at 21:18, Fri 10 July 2015.