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Out of Character 2.

Posted by helbent4For group 0
helbent4
GM, 1506 posts
aka Tony
Thu 15 Sep 2011
at 08:52
  • msg #381

Re: Out of Character 2

Lee,

That's great! What vintage are these?

Quality is fine, but can you reduce the size so they fit better?

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 778 posts
3/RSR - DRI
Master Corporal
Thu 15 Sep 2011
at 18:35
  • msg #382

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to helbent4 (msg #381):

Done!

Halved them.

The vintage varies of the patches.  I have been collecting them since I was first in the military, so some of the newer vintage stuff has stories.  Some of those are patches I wore, or patches from folks I served with.  Mixed in with those is a GOOD healthy selection of WWII vintage patches, like the two I just added.

My WWII vintage patches are (mostly) 5th ID, 6th ID, 9th ID, 13th ABN, 22nd ID (phantom), 28th ID, 65th ID, 71st ID, 87th ID, 100th ID, 11th Armored (thunderbolt), XXIII Corps, TRADOC, Patton's 7th Army (the Tower of Power), 8th Army,9th Army, 10th Army, Austrian Occupation, Berlin Brigade, Tank Breakers, 1st Army Air Corps, 2nd AAC, 3rd AAC, 5th AAC, 11th AAC, 15th AAC, Army Air Corps Training.  Um... there are more than that, but those I know off the top of my head, that are WWII patches.  I also have an vintage (vietnam, it didn't exist before then really) 23rd ID Americal patch, and a BDU (green/black) 23rd that was given to me by my first sergeant in germany off an old uniform of his, when he heard I collected patches!  A lot of my patches have stories, such as the slew of 4th ID patches I got from a former teammate Brad Bearfield, or why I don't have a class A patch for my first regular duty unit (6th ADA BDE).

My unit patches were 6th ADA BDE/AntiAircraft School Ft Bliss, 41st FA BDE, 181st FA, and 28th ID.  My personal 28th D Class A is still on my class A's.
helbent4
GM, 1508 posts
aka Tony
Thu 15 Sep 2011
at 21:25
  • msg #383

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg #382):

Lee,

Thanks for resizing! Sounds interesting, so why don't you have your 6th ADA Class A?

As a historical note for the Canadian military, the designations "RCAF", "Royal Canadian Navy" and "Canadian Army" were officially abolished in 1968 in a massive reorganisation that saw the military branches combined into the Canadian Forces (along the lines of the IDF and JADF). Recently the government decided to reinstate the old names: RCAF, RCN and Canadian Army (the reason the army is not "royal" is that tradition is that it's made of local militias and not under direct command of the Crown).

Also, sorry for any confusion but to clarify it's not actually a new turn. (As Bravo is in direct combat we're still in "rounds"). Kel is engaged in giving 1st Aid until the end of the turn (26) and won't move until next turn (27). Giving aid to the BTR crew will take place after (28+).

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 780 posts
3/RSR - DRI
Master Corporal
Thu 15 Sep 2011
at 22:04
  • msg #384

Re: Out of Character 2

helbent4:
In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg #382):

Lee,

Thanks for resizing! Sounds interesting, so why don't you have your 6th ADA Class A?


Tony, I burned it.  When I got to Germany I took it off my shoulder, and I burned it.  I really hated that unit.  Always, always, always try to get into a combat unit, or a line unit, or best.. a combat line unit that is poised for deployment at all times.  REMF units suck.  A lot.

Cool on the Canadian forces, I honestly don't know much about them, and probably know too much about a lot of the American stuff.  For instance the 28th ID dates back to 1747 and Franklin's Associators in a direct line, and my old unit the 109th Regiment is still allowed (per Congress) to refer to itself as the Pennsylvania 13th Regiment, as it was called in the Civil war.  This goes for the 10th, 11th, and 12th PA as well.  The 10th is the direct descendant of the Associators, and is recognized as the oldest unit in the United States armed forces (the Old Guard's claim to fame is that the unit was never deactivated, but the PA-NG is not 'active duty' to begin with, and has never been disbanded.)

Anyway, I can tell you histories like that about a lot of units.  I know a lot about the 28th because I was in it and it is proud of it's history.

Cool that I can share such with ya'll.  Few of my friends appreciate it.

Oh, by the way, I love my Army Air Force patches, those were only used in WWII, and in 1947 the whole AAC was spun off into a new service branch called the US Air Force!  The Us Army Air Force USAAF existed from 1941-1947.


Eh you have my post for the next turn, then, unless there is something she has to react to, that is what she will be doing.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:38, Fri 16 Sept 2011.
helbent4
GM, 1511 posts
aka Tony
Mon 19 Sep 2011
at 08:25
  • msg #385

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg #384):

Moves for the upcoming turn are in from Kel and Taras, so when Andy posts we are good to go for the next!

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 781 posts
3/RSR - DRI
Master Corporal
Mon 19 Sep 2011
at 12:05
  • msg #386

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to helbent4 (msg #385):

I am assuming I do not need to post?
helbent4
GM, 1512 posts
aka Tony
Mon 19 Sep 2011
at 12:20
  • msg #387

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg #386):

You don't need to, but I don't mind. You could post Kel going to the BTR. (Basically, recapitulating your last post in more detail.)

Tony
Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko
player, 705 posts
Fmr. 62nd MRD
Senior Lieutenant
Sat 24 Sep 2011
at 06:31
  • msg #388

Re: Out of Character 2

It's me jumping the gun again and probably getting ahead a bit. I'll be going to Europe in one week and I'll be unable to post for an undetermined amount of time, hopefully less than three weeks and therefore the rush...
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 785 posts
3/RSR - DRI
Master Corporal
Sat 24 Sep 2011
at 07:06
  • msg #389

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko (msg #388):

I don't mind jumping up
helbent4
GM, 1515 posts
aka Tony
Sat 24 Sep 2011
at 07:12
  • msg #390

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg #389):

Javier,

Dang, hostage rescues are always tricky!

It's funny, Javier is missing out on a casting call for Spanish-speakers, specifically males 30-65, to play in a training RP exercise for Canadian Forces Peacekeepers (2 weeks, all expenses paid, transportation, etc.) in Edmonton at that time.

I will try to move things up, too. We can go at Javier's pace in terms of turns, that is, calibrate your posts to his (so if he takes a couple actions, you may as well).

Too bad you can't keep connected overseas, I was able to find free or cheap Internet all over the 3rd world and keep gaming to a degree. But then, I have a very generous, tolerant and beautiful wife, and no kids.

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 787 posts
3/RSR - DRI
Master Corporal
Sat 24 Sep 2011
at 07:29
  • msg #391

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to helbent4 (msg #390):

Agreed.

I just did a multi post that should be able to pull things ahead.  Kelsey is a bit leery of throwing their only working armor into the area where a TOW might be operating, though.
helbent4
GM, 1516 posts
aka Tony
Sat 24 Sep 2011
at 07:40
  • msg #392

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg #391):

Ah, good to see you haven't forgotten about the TOW! It hasn't forgotten about you. I guess the best course would be to push out your foot recce, locate it before it strikes!

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 788 posts
3/RSR - DRI
Master Corporal
Sat 24 Sep 2011
at 07:47
  • msg #393

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to helbent4 (msg #392):

If the BTR is operational it can secure the flank, and she can send the lima detachment out to retcon that damn TOW!
helbent4
GM, 1517 posts
aka Tony
Sat 24 Sep 2011
at 07:49
  • msg #394

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg #393):

Which flank?

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 789 posts
3/RSR - DRI
Master Corporal
Sat 24 Sep 2011
at 07:55
  • msg #395

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to helbent4 (msg #394):

that incursion in the woods to the north
Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko
player, 707 posts
Fmr. 62nd MRD
Senior Lieutenant
Sat 24 Sep 2011
at 22:34
  • msg #396

Re: Out of Character 2



In this picture and the next it can be noticed the concrete protections for the ambushing team at each side of the barrier. Also visible is the end of the train convoy. The approach route of the Bravo team from their landing site and previous firefight with the enemy SAW gunner.

Looking north we can see the store targeted by the Carl Gustav fireteam. Also the trees used for Taras in his next move to meet the runaway hostage. Our GM is right there checking out the scene!



Finally, here is a picture of the "Groceteria" store where the hostages are taken:


This message was last edited by the GM at 09:07, Sun 25 Sept 2011.
helbent4
GM, 1518 posts
aka Tony
Sun 25 Sep 2011
at 09:13
  • msg #397

Re: Out of Character 2

Team,

Sorry for no real posting this weekend, I'm visiting relatives. I volunteered to run a sit-down RPG for my relatives and it went well, but took up a lot of time and energy. I'll have a few hours to think on the way, home, try to wrap things up ASAP.

Either that or we could put the game on hold for a few weeks when Javier goes away. Not the best solution but it would work.

As for the pictures, looks great! The last one is of the "Grocerateria", the store where the hostages are being held. This is facing east to west, so the rocket impacted on the left (south) side of the building from your perspective, on the second floor (the brown trimmed area). The HEMMT is parked by the Stop sign to the left of the building.

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 790 posts
3/RSR - DRI
Master Corporal
Sun 25 Sep 2011
at 10:12
  • msg #398

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to helbent4 (msg #397):

Sorry if Kel is being confusing, it's the short turns!

She wants to see if she can get the BTR operational before she concretes plans, What SGT Fox suggests is exactly what she wants to do, with the BTR covering the back door and/or the rest of the element.  If she can't get it operational, she will want to go to foot herself, or join the LAV crew.
helbent4
GM, 1520 posts
aka Tony
Mon 26 Sep 2011
at 08:40
  • msg #399

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg #398):

1) The BTR seems to be minimally operational.

2) To my understanding, Taras and the boy haven't moved. From where they are, they can't directly observe the store.

3) Did Sheeler accompany the Bravo main element or is he with Taras?

As a note, 1st Aid takes 1 turn per body part, while actually stabilising someone who's critically injured takes a minute and has to be done within 10 minutes. Putsep is stabilised, the gunner has had 1st Aid but is not stabilised.

Tony
Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko
player, 709 posts
Fmr. 62nd MRD
Senior Lieutenant
Mon 26 Sep 2011
at 09:16
  • msg #400

Re: Out of Character 2

Tony,

Taras just sent the boy packing with the rest of the team now occupying that structure indicated to be 70 meters East from the original ambush point. From under the tree the store is visible in its South and Western sides. The original entrance to the "Groceteria" is covered by the Bravo team recently installed in their new position.

Private Sheeler was covering Taras movement to the tree and therefore remained with the team and now is supposed to be with the rest in that utility building.

Taras idea behind moving the team was to provide them with a closer and somehow safer place to deal with the "Groceteria" situation. The decision of the ukrainian to move under the tree is twofold: First, he wanted to meet the boy and obtain first hand intel before "securing" the hostage. Second: he wanted to be able to keep an eye on the Western side of the building.

The position even though is a bit exposed considering what a tree trunk can offer is also has the advantage to offer the possibility to establish contact with the reinforcements coming from the West or if not, simply, command an assault from there.
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 792 posts
3/RSR - DRI
Master Corporal
Mon 26 Sep 2011
at 15:47
  • msg #401

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko (msg #400):

With Kelsey knowing she at least has a shooting platform to cover the back door, she is sending everyone else in the other direction, they'll follow as they can.

Sorry for confusing directions, I figure Kelsey didn't want to 'count her chickens before the eggs hatched', she knew what she wanted, but wasn't sure she had it.

She honestly thinks this is a trap, and it probably is.

Sorry to reverse my decision so fast!
helbent4
GM, 1521 posts
aka Tony
Mon 26 Sep 2011
at 21:17
  • msg #402

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg #401):

Lee,

It's a good idea to push out your foot recce in front of the vehicles.

My apologies, I could and should have given you more information from the store area. Taras and Bravo can pretty much see down both major roads to the north (4th Ave.) and east (Ioco Rd) and much of the open area and abandoned buildings around the store. Not 100% but most of the likely areas a Humvee could wait in ambush without extensive preparation.

There is no sign of the Humvee in the store area. As this is a "hasty ambush" the most likely locations would be to the north on 4th Ave., firing south towards Taras, but Taras can see that 4th Ave. is clear. The other would be to wait on Ioco Rd and nail the LAV as it comes out of the refinery but Bravo can confirm that area is clear, too. There are other areas of concealment around the store where the Humvee could wait but those are either visually cleared by Taras/Bravo or would entail a very close engagement range, something suicidal for a Humvee.

The refinery is another matter, but you have foot dismounts clearing the area and my understanding the LAV is not heading in that direction at this time.


Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:54, Mon 26 Sept 2011.
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 793 posts
3/RSR - DRI
Master Corporal
Tue 27 Sep 2011
at 03:13
  • msg #403

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to helbent4 (msg #402):

That's why I was looking to push the LAV to the right, and come up south of Bravo.

Of course, I was figuring Taras would tell the LAV where he wanted it, ya know?  No worries, she can't micromanage in a combat, and shouldn't try.


And is it just me that finds the pics on the most excellent map rather large (enough to make it impossible to read the captions?)?
This message was last edited by the player at 03:44, Wed 28 Sept 2011.
helbent4
GM, 1525 posts
aka Tony
Thu 29 Sep 2011
at 02:46
  • msg #404

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg #403):

Lee,

Only the TOW is really big but the caption is on the top and you should be able to read it.

Someone should give some kind of orders on the left. I would assume McRae is waiting for instructions of some kind? Kel can't see the Humvee. It deliberately parked where the slope of the hill concealed it until someone driving up the road would run into a TOW coming the other way.

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 796 posts
3/RSR - DRI
Master Corporal
Thu 29 Sep 2011
at 10:58
  • msg #405

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to helbent4 (msg #404):

Huh, so she doesn't know they blew it?

(I know the BTR was using hand held IR, not the sites, I thought it was passive!).


As far as pictures and captions, on my computer, I can't read the top, it goes off the screen.

I am going to post quick to keep the game moving, sorry... your first post was after bedtime for me, and I have to get out the door for work, this afternoon I will long post!
This message was last edited by the player at 11:08, Thu 29 Sept 2011.
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