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Out of Character 2.

Posted by helbent4For group 0
helbent4
GM, 1204 posts
aka Tony
Thu 2 Sep 2010
at 00:09
  • msg #31

Re: Out of Character 2

Kelsey Sarah Champlain:
In reply to Robert A. Conklin (msg #29):

That's.. ahh.. well.. should just be "Romeo One"
"Romeo Actual" is either the 'actual' CO, but since he has a regular callsign, should not be needed.
There should be no Romeo One Alpha.. I think.

I think Kelsey is just bumping along in the back of the jeep.. do I need to post?


Romeo One Alpha is Rob's call sign. Romeo Actual is Taras, although he does have his own call sign.

I think you should post even if Kelsey's not doing anything specific, why not? At least you should include a tac-block so I know what's she's using, what ammunition she has, etc. See Rob's post.

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 644 posts
3/RSR - DRI
Master Corporal
Thu 2 Sep 2010
at 04:44
  • msg #32

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to helbent4 (msg #31):

OK.. I will update the post

I think the "Alpha" at the end was a mispost or typo though.
helbent4
GM, 1205 posts
aka Tony
Thu 2 Sep 2010
at 07:25
  • msg #33

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg #32):

Groovy about the post!

As long as everyone knows "Romeo One Alpha" refers to Rob, we are all on the correct page. I'm aware it's not US radio protocol to have letter-number-letter... go figure!  =)

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:49, Thu 02 Sept 2010.
helbent4
GM, 1207 posts
aka Tony
Sun 5 Sep 2010
at 21:10
  • msg #34

Re: Out of Character 2

Team,

To a degree I'm just waiting for Rob to post his next move, although I understand he works all weekend and may not post until tonight or later.

Wasn't Kelsey going to post something? It would be cool to hear from her about what she's doing. Everyone else has more or less posted what their posture and current actions are so that's okay for the moment.

Tony
Robert A. Conklin
player, 91 posts
3rd Recon, 3/3
GySGT
Tue 7 Sep 2010
at 00:14
  • msg #35

Re: Out of Character 2

oops sorry, I  thought we were waiting for others to post. I will post now.
Seth Joseph Delaney
player, 116 posts
Sergeant
PPCLI & RMR
Tue 7 Sep 2010
at 22:45
  • msg #36

Re: Out of Character 2

Tony,

Sorry to be a pain but please can you give us an updated tactical map of the current situation.  I'm guessing that it's best for Seth to dismount by the Shell station but I'm unsure regarding the range to the enemy targets and whether we should be engaging of whether we should be looking to move closer.

Alternatively if a map gives us too much information and you'd rather things stay chaotic then that's fine - please can you just clarify how far away the nearest group of hostiles that Seth could engage are from the Shell station?

Thanks,

Andy.
helbent4
GM, 1210 posts
aka Tony
Tue 7 Sep 2010
at 23:31
  • msg #37

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Seth Joseph Delaney (msg #36):

Andy

There's no harm in asking! I'm heading out and can't get a map together at the moment.

For now, scroll up in this thread. Look at Rick's map. You are coming from the bottom along the green line (your nominal path).

The Shell Card-Lock station is to the left of the green arrowhead. You turned left onto Kent Ave, immediately across the railroad tracks. Facing north, across Boundary to your right is an overgrown open area (which is under Rob's field of fire).

At the Shell station, all that remains is about 80% of the paved area. Trees are encroaching from most sides, while grass and saplings are also growing from cracks and potholes throughout. Moss is covering most of what's left. The surrounding landscaping is now completely overgrown by saplings and bushes, obscuring vision in and out of the lot.

Let me know if that's not clear enough!

Tony
Seth Joseph Delaney
player, 118 posts
Sergeant
PPCLI & RMR
Wed 8 Sep 2010
at 15:55
  • msg #38

Re: Out of Character 2

Tony - that helped massively and the only thing I'm not sure on is the actual range from where Seth is to the enemy positions.  I've assumed that it's short enough to engage with an RPK however and that's the important thing! <G>

One minor thing, I haven't stated it anywhere but hopefully you'll allow Seth to have put his helmet on prior to us starting this engagement?

Thanks,

Andy.
helbent4
GM, 1211 posts
aka Tony
Wed 8 Sep 2010
at 21:50
  • msg #39

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Seth Joseph Delaney (msg #38):

Andy,

1) No problem, you had plenty of time and you're playing an experienced soldier. I will always give you the benefit of the doubt, if reasonable.

2) It's about 130m from Kent Ave. E. to the intersection of Marine way and Boundary Road. For future reference, go to "maps.google.com" and type in "Marine Way and Boundary Vancouver" to find the map quickly.

3) Andy is the detachment commander for Lima, just to clarify the chain-of-command.

Tony
Seth Joseph Delaney
player, 119 posts
Sergeant
PPCLI & RMR
Wed 8 Sep 2010
at 21:57
  • msg #40

Re: Out of Character 2

helbent4:
1) No problem, you had plenty of time and you're playing an experienced soldier. I will always give you the benefit of the doubt, if reasonable.


Thanks.

helbent4:
2) It's about 130m from Kent Ave. E. to the intersection of Marine way and Boundary Road. For future reference, go to "maps.google.com" and type in "Marine Way and Boundary Vancouver" to find the map quickly.


Thanks - I'll remember that one.

helbent4:
3) Andy is the detachment commander for Lima, just to clarify the chain-of-command.


I know.  Andy seemed to leave it open for suggestions in the way he phrased his scouting question and Seth is being pushy! <G>
helbent4
GM, 1212 posts
aka Tony
Wed 8 Sep 2010
at 22:03
  • msg #41

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Seth Joseph Delaney (msg #40):

Andy,

D'oh... you're playing Seth, not Andy! OK, I screwed that one up. Ignore my last comment, it was misdirected.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:14, Wed 08 Sept 2010.
Seth Joseph Delaney
player, 120 posts
Sergeant
PPCLI & RMR
Wed 8 Sep 2010
at 22:12
  • msg #42

Re: Out of Character 2

helbent4:
In reply to Seth Joseph Delaney (msg #40):

Andy,

D'oh... you're playing Seth, not Andy! OK, I screwed that one up. Ignore my last comment, it's redundant.

Tony


There are too many Andy's in this game! <G>
helbent4
GM, 1213 posts
aka Tony
Wed 8 Sep 2010
at 22:15
  • msg #43

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Seth Joseph Delaney (msg #42):

Andy,

Too right!

Nevertheless, the point being that Andy doesn't need to ask permission, it's his call if he wants to scout and so on.

I think Seth's idea is a good one, although tactically speaking your base of fire is already the LAV and the sniper.

Standard Canadian infantry practice would be to move up on-line as 2x 2-person fire teams leapfrogging each other, alternating in providing covering fire for the other as they advance upon the objective. When the fire teams get close enough, the section/detachment leader can order individual attacks, where each individual in a pair leapfrogs the other.

This is part of the "Canadian Infantry Section Attack" battle drill, of which Andy, Seth and Kelsey would be familiar (although after years of war other tactics may have been adopted or improvised).

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:27, Wed 08 Sept 2010.
Seth Joseph Delaney
player, 124 posts
Sergeant
PPCLI & RMR
Tue 14 Sep 2010
at 22:27
  • msg #44

Re: Out of Character 2

Tony,

Just to confirm are any of our vehicles still firing on the tactical and/or the recoilless rifle?

Or has it all gone quiet now?

Thanks,

Andy.
helbent4
GM, 1218 posts
aka Tony
Wed 15 Sep 2010
at 01:49
  • msg #45

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Seth Joseph Delaney (msg #44):

Andy,

Good question, sorry for not specifying.

We'll say that Chris is still raking the target zone with 7.62mm co-ax fire. You'll need to call Hotel to have them cease fire.

Tony
helbent4
GM, 1220 posts
aka Tony
Sat 18 Sep 2010
at 09:10
  • msg #46

Re: Out of Character 2

Team,

Video of CF in a firefight in Afghanistan. I'm unsure if this is an ambush or assault. It's probably a lot like your current engagement.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fd2_1189347233

Ambush of Canadians in Kandahar:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e56_1188665855

Tony
Keith Michael Tremblay
player, 64 posts
Former USMC Infantry
'Hotel Five'
Sat 18 Sep 2010
at 13:10
  • msg #47

Re: Out of Character 2

helbent4:
Team,

Video of CF in a firefight in Afghanistan. I'm unsure if this is an ambush or assault. It's probably a lot like your current engagement.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fd2_1189347233

Ambush of Canadians in Kandahar:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e56_1188665855

Tony

Very good videos
helbent4
GM, 1221 posts
aka Tony
Sat 18 Sep 2010
at 13:35
  • msg #48

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Keith Michael Tremblay (msg #47):

Nice bit of combined arms action there. You can hear the 25mm cannon banging away in both clips, I think!

I had Rachel suggest Kelsey guard the prisoner, because Kel is AWOL at the moment. Seems like a convenient thing to take advantage of!

Tony
helbent4
GM, 1222 posts
aka Tony
Sun 19 Sep 2010
at 23:49
  • msg #49

Re: Out of Character 2

Group,

My apologies, I misread Rick's intentions for his character. I'll do a bit of a Retcon (re-write), which shouldn't be a problem as he's acting independently any ways.

So, he can also see the guy with the LAW lining up to take a shot.

Tony
helbent4
GM, 1224 posts
aka Tony
Tue 21 Sep 2010
at 23:44
  • msg #50

Re: Out of Character 2

Team,

Combat map is posted! The map is relatively accurate, although the enemy unit symbols should really be diamonds to differentiate them from the friendlies. Arrows are the NATO symbol for rifles, Arrow with a line in the middle is an LMG/SAW.

New turn begins now, please post actions.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:53, Tue 21 Sept 2010.
Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko
player, 510 posts
Fmr. 62nd MRD
Senior Lieutenant
Mon 11 Oct 2010
at 09:34
  • msg #51

Re: Out of Character 2

Hello folks,

I'm back after a long european holiday. I'm having an interesting exchange with our GM about rifle grenades in general.

I was trying to find without any success information regarding the use of this munitions in the Canadian Military without any success.

There are certain references to their use in WW1 and it could be taken for granted in WW2 with the Enfields. I'm not so sure after that. British troops were using ENERGA and it seems that a dedicated (barreled) version of the FN FAL made in Canada was identified as "C 1 grenade" but I cannot find any clue regarding the ammunition. I was wondering if any current member of the CF, enthusiast, etc. would be able to provide more information about it.
helbent4
GM, 1231 posts
aka Tony
Mon 11 Oct 2010
at 10:53
  • msg #52

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko (msg #51):

Javier,

Here is a nice site, still no information on a rifle grenade.

It's likely that the CF would just licence the "generic" 22m Bullet Trap rifle grenade.

Also: you can make your own sketches using zwibbler.com, try it, it's fun!

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:38, Mon 11 Oct 2010.
Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko
player, 511 posts
Fmr. 62nd MRD
Senior Lieutenant
Mon 11 Oct 2010
at 21:14
  • msg #53

Re: Out of Character 2

Tony,

it took me quite a bit but I found out that the Canadian Forces used an adapter to launch regular hand grenades (M61 and smoke) from the FN FAL.
helbent4
GM, 1233 posts
aka Tony
Mon 11 Oct 2010
at 22:25
  • msg #54

Re: Out of Character 2

In reply to Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko (msg #53):

Javier,

Interesting. I was able to find out that the FN (and C7/C8) will also fire standard NATO 22mm rifle grenades.

At any rate you'll probably see a few of these, especially as local- or home-made weapons, and while your unit has access to 40mm grenades you could also request these as well.

Tony
Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko
player, 512 posts
Fmr. 62nd MRD
Senior Lieutenant
Tue 12 Oct 2010
at 18:36
  • msg #55

Re: Out of Character 2

Thanks,

A possibility that may look like below. A surplus ENERGA from the Enfield times on a C 1 grenade rifle. (Canadian version of FAL barreled for rifle grenade launcher:


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