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OOC 3.

Posted by helbent4For group 0
helbent4
GM, 2007 posts
aka Tony
Fri 19 Apr 2013
at 20:47
  • msg #719

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg # 717):

To be all roleplay-y, that's why!

Or to mark your route, check, RPs and RV points.

Tony
helbent4
GM, 2008 posts
aka Tony
Sun 21 Apr 2013
at 10:33
  • msg #720

Re: OOC 3

Lee,

So I get the advance detachment will go down the Trans-Canada.

Where will the support element go? Taras suggested some kind of flanking action, instead of waiting at the fort. So following but on a parallel track? North or South of the freeway?

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 1243 posts
3/CSR - DRI
CF Sergeant
Sun 21 Apr 2013
at 15:34
  • msg #721

Re: OOC 3

In reply to helbent4 (msg # 720):

Or just following.  The snipers will be looking for a good overwatch.
helbent4
GM, 2009 posts
aka Tony
Sun 21 Apr 2013
at 23:48
  • msg #722

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg # 721):

If that's your suggestion, I'll follow it! (I don't necessarily want to micro-manage Taras as an NPC, so it's better if you call the shots.)

Not being very proficient in tactics (and not a soldier) I would think the Cougar and Iltis would perform a kind of "rolling overwatch". That is, the Humvee proceeds, slowly. The other vehicles follow, moving from firing position to firing position where they cover the road ahead (but never passing the forward element). It's important that the forward unit doesn't get too far ahead!

Tony
Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko
player, 1003 posts
RCMP UBC Detachment
Staff Sergeant
Mon 22 Apr 2013
at 10:55
  • msg #723

Re: OOC 3

Hello folks!

It´s been very busy for me the last few days and I don´t think I would be able to keep tab with you guys and I don´t want to kidnap the postings. NPCíng Taras is the right thing to do. I appreciate that.

As per the tactics I´m going along with Tony´s sayings. Is better to run a parallel route as it follows soviet doctrine and facilitates flanking maneuvers more so in a¨linear scenario like a highway that can be very restrictive in terms of maneuver. The idea then is to move faster than the humvee in a parallel route in the North. Establish a series of checkpoints for reference (ie January, February, March,...) and if something happens a long the way the vehicles can have more freedom of movement to make an envelopment and even make an sniper ambush if the humvee wants to make a feint moving back, etc.

If our GM is moving along this line it would be up to Lee to make use of the support team from pre-planned positions; Direct fire support, setting road-blocks, pincer movements, etc, etc.

Upon operational control of the support team by the humvee team the snipers can have the tactical freedom of decision regarding emplacement, target seleccion, etc.

I hope it helps and everybody will have fun. I will be checking out rarely as I have plenty of travelling and other duties but I promise I´ll keep an eye. Cheers!
helbent4
GM, 2010 posts
aka Tony
Mon 22 Apr 2013
at 11:02
  • msg #724

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko (msg # 723):

Javier,

Great to hear from you, thanks for checking in!

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 1244 posts
3/CSR - DRI
CF Sergeant
Tue 23 Apr 2013
at 04:38
  • msg #725

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko (msg # 723):

It looks like there is a road and then a grid of streets to the north.  The Cougar could be moving on those as the HMMWV advances at a more sedate pace.  I think having the sniper team following and hunting a good elevated position to be able to follow with might be good, an overlook.  Then we all slow down and approach town.  let the HMMWV sidle through town as the two outer elements gaurd each other like chesspieces, ready to pop into action.


Thoughts?
helbent4
GM, 2011 posts
aka Tony
Tue 23 Apr 2013
at 09:43
  • msg #726

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg # 725):

How the Iltis manoeuvres is up to Andy/Mac. If the accompany the Cougar they would be in the lead of that detachment, trying to clear the route. Then if an ambush on the main highway is discovered, they can attack from the rear.

If they accompany the Humvee then they'll be doing a kind of rolling overwatch, stopping to cover potential ambush locations ahead, conducting surveillance.

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 1245 posts
3/CSR - DRI
CF Sergeant
Wed 24 Apr 2013
at 01:27
  • msg #727

Re: OOC 3

In reply to helbent4 (msg # 726):

Lone Wolf, choose your path!
Thomas Matthew Andrews
player, 11 posts
Fleet Protection Group RM
Wed 24 Apr 2013
at 06:24
  • msg #728

Re: OOC 3

In reply to helbent4 (msg # 726):

I think conducting surveillance in conjunction with the Humvee would probably be the best bet, especially with its limited armour and offensive abilities.

Cymon
helbent4
GM, 2012 posts
aka Tony
Wed 24 Apr 2013
at 06:37
  • msg #729

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg # 727):

I assume you are keeping a radio watch, scanning known freqs and also using the digital radios to frequency hop and cover the spectrum searching for traffic. So please designate a signaller to do the job for your detachment. (Darek will do that in the Cougar.)

Also, cool link for CF ammo! Great find.

I've been posting to the Phoenix Command list for, ah... some reason. They should be pleased to have this information!

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:38, Wed 24 Apr 2013.
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 1248 posts
3/CSR - DRI
CF Sergeant
Wed 24 Apr 2013
at 13:04
  • msg #730

Re: OOC 3

In reply to helbent4 (msg # 729):

Again, if anyone has good skill with spotting/support weapons, Kelsey IS the signaler normally (She's also a killer marksman on that C8!).  If someone has good skill with radios/electronics please step up?
helbent4
GM, 2013 posts
aka Tony
Wed 24 Apr 2013
at 20:46
  • msg #731

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg # 730):

Abbot is good with support weapons, so is Tremblay. Treblay is competant with signals, too.

Interesting trivia, this was from a post by a US Marine about Canadian soldiers:

quote:
You may be interested to know that one Marine I knew had been a former
Canadian Forces infantryman.  He was Native American, and so being
technically ov a soverign nation that extended across the US/Canada border,
had been given permission to leave the CF and join the Marines so that he
could go to Iraq, and had been in a Scout Sniper platoon (which is
basically a unit of apprentice Scout Snipers training and hoping to be good
enough to be such).  He had found the Marines much less demanding than
service in a CF infantry battalion.  Partially it was for practical
military reasons: For example, he had been expected to know how to operate
every weapon in his company proficiently, as well as the radio, in Canada.


 In the US things are more specialised.  Only radio operators usually touch
radios, and only some people will learn all the support weapons.
Partially it was for impractical ones: He found the CF far more strict
about keeping your uniforms pressed, and he'd had to keep his boots
polished.  We had tan, rough finished boots, and so didn't polish them.  He
said keeping his uniforms neat up north had taken a couple of hours every
day.  He preferred the US Marines (he'd hated polishing his boots!) but
seemed to regards the CF as a bit more professional, if, paradoxically, a
bit more concerned with trivia.


I'd heard this as well, but it's hard to know how to integrate this without lavishing additional CPs on Canadian soldiers. But we can say for RP purposes that the CF personnel (that is, everyone but Tremblay, Williams and Andrews) can use the radio, at least, if not as technically proficiently as a trained signaller.

Tony
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 1250 posts
3/CSR - DRI
CF Sergeant
Thu 25 Apr 2013
at 01:08
  • msg #732

Re: OOC 3

In reply to helbent4 (msg # 731):

Tremblay is an NPC, so I would rather a player get an opportunity to play a larger role.  Kelsey will take comms and Abbott the Turret, if he thinks he is up to it?
Christopher Little Hawk MacDonald
player, 256 posts
1/RMR - DRI
Rifleman
Thu 25 Apr 2013
at 07:37
  • msg #733

Re: OOC 3

According to my character sheet, I have Novice rating in Support Weapons: I'd take that to mean that I know how to operate them but it isn't something that I do on a regular basis. There's no mention of radio use at all, but perhaps I was off learning field medicine when that training block came around!

In the British Army, that would be pretty much the case: everyone is taught how to operate squad support weapons, but those with an aptitude for them would get more training. Anyone could be handed one and expected to use it, though.

Radio was a bit different. Everyone learns the basics of sending/receiving. Then the next level is 'regular radio user' which is an infantryman who can use one reasonably competently and might be the squad signaller. Then there are the specialists who can do anything - set up masts, service radios, etc., as well as use them. They'd mostly be posted in from the Royal Signals.

(I got to regular radio user, by the way. In the Cheshires, corporals and below got to wear a white lanyard to show that status... but I was a sergeant. Think they just expected you to know such stuff by that rank!)
helbent4
GM, 2013 posts
aka Tony
Thu 25 Apr 2013
at 20:59
  • msg #734

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Christopher Little Hawk MacDonald (msg # 733):

There is no "Communications" skill, although there certainly should be! I've been using Electronics.

I'll bump Chris up to at least Novice with radio operations (Electronics).

Tony
This message was last updated by the GM at 20:59, Thu 25 Apr 2013.
Stanley Alistair Abbot
player, 19 posts
1/RMRR
Infanteer
Thu 25 Apr 2013
at 16:38
  • msg #735

Re: OOC 3

I'm on it.  Let's rock and roll.
Kelsey Sarah Champlain
player, 1251 posts
3/CSR - DRI
CF Sergeant
Fri 26 Apr 2013
at 00:40
  • msg #736

Re: OOC 3

Stanley Alistair Abbot:
I'm on it.  Let's rock and roll.



There's my pro in support weapons!


Here we gooooooo!
Stanley Alistair Abbot
player, 21 posts
1/RMRR
Infanteer
Fri 26 Apr 2013
at 14:43
  • msg #737

Re: OOC 3

Actually, the SAW falls under Longarm, but he's not far behind on Support Weaps.
helbent4
GM, 2014 posts
aka Tony
Fri 26 Apr 2013
at 20:30
  • msg #738

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Stanley Alistair Abbot (msg # 737):

By golly, it does!

Tony
helbent4
GM, 2015 posts
aka Tony
Sat 27 Apr 2013
at 02:17
  • msg #739

Re: OOC 3

In reply to helbent4 (msg # 738):

How much ammunition is Andrews taking for the Carlie G? (Stored with him in the Humvee, but the back.)

For the Itlis, Andy is driving while Mac acts as co-driver and operates the radio.

Kel is VC/gunner on the Humvee. Tremblay (NPC) can drive, or someone else take the wheel? In other words, where are:

- Hawke
- Abbot
- Andrews
- Tremblay (NPC)

Is there an ambush or bailout drill? I'm mainly thinking of who grabs the ammo for the CG. Andrfews will take the launcher, of course, but if no one grabs rounds...

Tony
William Hawke
player, 149 posts
Royal Marine CSAR
Corporal
Sat 27 Apr 2013
at 02:24
  • msg #740

Re: OOC 3

In reply to helbent4 (msg # 739):

I'm already behind the wheel of the Hummer.

--Hawke
helbent4
GM, 2017 posts
aka Tony
Sat 27 Apr 2013
at 02:34
  • msg #741

Re: OOC 3

In reply to William Hawke (msg # 740):

Excellent.

As Tremblay is also an experienced HW specialist (he can handle various support weapons), he will assist Andrews with the CG and wrangle ammunition. He's also switched to a C7A1/ELCAN as it's more accurate than the M16A2 or FNC. I'd put Tremblay and Andres in the back where they can grab the CG and ammo if you need to bail in a hurry?

When I get a chance to look at a map (I'm on break in a Tim Hortons at the moment) I'll post a rough timetable for where the different detachments should be at what time. That is, Taras will. He assumes everyone is travelling at an average speed of 30km/h.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:41, Sat 27 Apr 2013.
William Hawke
player, 150 posts
Royal Marine CSAR
Corporal
Sat 27 Apr 2013
at 02:51
  • msg #742

Re: OOC 3

In reply to helbent4 (msg # 741):

I have to cut cars apart tomorrow for a demo.  I'll be posting later in the day.

--Hawk, Hawke's player.
Thomas Matthew Andrews
player, 12 posts
Fleet Protection Group RM
Sat 27 Apr 2013
at 02:58
  • msg #743

Re: OOC 3

Andrews is happy to go wherever there is space. As for the ammo for the CG he will have two rounds on him and the rest stowed.

Cymon
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