Hi,

Congrats on the job!

As well, Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

Tony

In reply to helbent4 (msg # 869):

Happy belated Canadian Thanksgiving to you too!

Thanks! Michelle and I went to my folks yesterday and our friends tonight. So much turkey!

As well, tonight we were able to get a session in of "Sandman: Map of Haalal". It's basically one of the first really surreal RPGs, a hard-to-find classic released by Pacesetter in 1985. It's a very strange game, but we've completed 3 of the 4 adventures.

Question: how far back is the Iltis following the Cougar?

Tony
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In reply to helbent4 (msg # 871):

Heres dice

"Cougar" and Iltis:


This message was last edited by the GM at 12:11, Sat 19 Oct 2013.

Team,

I corrected Darek's dialogue to reflect the correct range (1000m) and the direction.

Note in both photos the old style OD Green uniforms, with newer Kevlar helmets and ELCAN optical sights. I'd say mid-late 90's.



Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:24, Sat 19 Oct 2013.

Yes tony, that's Bosnia. according to Wikipedia: "SFOR was established in Security Council Resolution 1088 on December 12, 1996. It succeed the much larger Implementation Force IFOR which was deployed to Bosnia and Herzegovina on 20 December 1995 with a one year mandate."

In reply to Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko (msg # 875):

The top picture looks a little more like a LAV-25/LAV III Kodiak/LAV-Recce Coyote than a Cougar? Narrower gun, plus the hull side doesn't come to a relatively sharp edge and slope inward.

(LAV-25s were supposed to go to the USMC and were not official CF issue, but I heard that some were deployed as a stop-gap as recce vehicles prior to the LAV-Recce Coyote.)

Tony

Good eye!

Slightly different turret but same hull for comparison with the jeep.

In reply to Taras Vladimirovich Shevchenko (msg # 877):
Ok HMMWV crew!

I was going to leave one person behind to man the MG to cover, and they can always move the vehicle.  I'd prefer to make it an NPC, unless a PC wants to do that inglorious task

Meantime, infantry do what ifantry do.  In this case we will advance on foot to see what is going on by moving across overgrown lawns it appears.

Do we have an NPC with us that can man the gun? I'd like to dismount and go play with the other kids if possible. If not, I understand.

In reply to Stanley Alistair Abbot (msg # 879):

I can ammend my post to all infantry on foot too!

Team,

Tremblay is an NPC. He's proficient with the GPMG, in fact, this used to be his Humvee. He can take over the gun.

As a point of fact, Belanger and company is about 1000 metres away. Advancing on foot, you may find their bodies, if the bad guys decide to leave them behind once their done.

Tony

In reply to helbent4 (msg # 881):

I went for cover to give us more time to learn something.

I accept that it's likely that the tank is full of bad guys.  But who are they attacking?  How can we find out?  did i miss a post where we identified the parties involved?

I'm willing to drive the hummer, because a hummer that moves, stops, shoots, and then the driver has to get in the seat to move again, is about to become an ex-hummer.  the biggest, and probably only advantage that the hummer has is it's mobility.  As it is, I'll probably be rolling up a new character, because tanks are tanks.

--Hawk, not Hawke.

In reply to William Hawke (msg # 882):

Sure then, drive the hummer!  You are in charge of it, Kel can lead a foot investigation patrol

In reply to William Hawke (msg # 882):

Bear in mind, the tank can't see you due to a cloud of white phosphor smoke. Belanger's element is putting up a fight but they won't last the 15-20 minutes it will take to advance on foot. Sometimes there are no good options...

Tony

The Cougar crew is taking advantage of the smoke to move forward and try a shot at the tank as soon as the WP grenade effect dissipates. For a Vietnam era M15 that should be around 60 secs. of burning time.

Tony, let me know if you need any roll, etc.

Just so I'm clear on this, would white phosphorus be properly referred to as "Willie Pete" (as I have heard before), or as "Whiskey Papa" (using the modern phonetic alphabet), especially over the radio?

In reply to Tyler Gabriel Hope (msg # 886):

The nickname for White Phosphor in the US/Canada is "Willie Pete", even if the NATO phonetics are different.

Commonly used to quickly create a smoke screen, as well has serious anti-personnel effects in the blast radius due to the burning phosphor particles that cannot be put out by water. It's not officially intended as a weapon (due to its gruesome effects) but all's fair...

Tony

In reply to helbent4 (msg # 887):

We called it Willie Pete in the US Army too.  Don't ask me why.  Probably dates back to it's original deployment, the phonetic alphabet was different in WW2.

Us Brits refer to Willie Pete too.

Whoa.. since when does it take 15-20 minutes to go a klick?  When I was in the Army we got 15 minutes to cover two miles


So, I guess we retcon, everyone back in the HMMWV, and get closer?

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg # 890):

1) Doing some reading, I see the US Army requires that recruits run 2 miles in 15 minutes... in training. I feel that 6 km/h is a reasonable rate considering you are not in track gear but in full battle-rattle. So call it 5-10 minutes to hump 1km. Enough time for that T-54 to run out of 100mm HE ammo as it pumps round after round point blank into whoever is firing at it.

2) You don't need to retcon, you have a minute or two of breathing space to figure things out and get something going.

3) There are farms and fields around you, plus side streets with residential housing. the Humvee and Iltis have good off-road capability. To the south of you are fields, and a stream. This might be a fairly straight shot if you don't run into a ditch. To the north is a subdivision, you could go around to the north using side streets. Or head straight west down the main road.

Off the top of my head, Mac definitely has 2x LAW rockets, and you have the Carl Gustav with 3x HE and 2x HEAT rounds. The Carl G was literally designed to take out the T-54/55 series, although a side or track shot is still preferred to front-on. Hawke probably has a few 40mm HEDP (useful for the technicals).

Following is a government of Canada topo map of the area in 15000:1 scale (which I think is reasonable). I don't know why the map is canted to clockwise, the main road going through the middle is East-West in Google maps!

You are 2 blocks east of the main intersection of 56 Ave and 248 St. on the south side of the road. The Hotel element is at the SE corner of the main intersection to your west. Gunny Conklin said he was at the NW corner, near where the tank was located.



Tony

In reply to helbent4 (msg # 891):

Tony, the training for THAT never ever stopped.  You did it in training, you did it in AIT, you did it perm party, you did it on drill weekends, you did it every weekday at 06:00, rain or shine.  Seriously.  And that was Artillery, in the Infantry that make you do it geared up!

And yeah, HMMWVs are great off road, that WP helps a lot.. and a T54 while a good tank, can't hold up to modern anti-tank!

In reply to Kelsey Sarah Champlain (msg # 892):

Hi Lee,

"I am not overly fast, but I can handle a ruck pretty well. My normal slow running speed of eight to ten minutes per mile doesn’t drop off much when I’m fully laden,” said Arnold. Typical weekly training involves light weight lifting, daily runs consisting of eight or more miles one of which involves wearing the [50 lb] rucksack..."

http://salinaradio.todayinkans...nd-honor-the-fallen/

True, the above is an Airman, not an infanryman. But nothing I've read (including many posts from US military personnel) suggests that 2 miles in 15 minutes is run in full gear by anyone on a regular basis, usually it's run in gym clothing and the advice is calibrated to that end. However, I'll look at it further!

I will give you that you are probably in good shape; a while back it was posted that exercise and PT was part of your routine and I don't see why that would change.

Anyways, you are making use of mechanisation!

Tony
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