chromatophoria
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Thu 19 Sep 2019
at 12:18
Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
Keen to learn the core elements of this gameplay. Not so much focus on character creation, happy to run with pregens. I'm more interested in seeing how the core role playing elements translate to Rpol.
DrFondue
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Thu 19 Sep 2019
at 17:32
Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
Ditto that.
Alyse
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Thu 19 Sep 2019
at 22:43
Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
    "All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first
    they must catch you; digger, listener, runner, Prince with the swift warning. Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people
    will never be destroyed."
    Frith, Watership Down

The Warren is a game about intelligent rabbits trying to make the best of a world filled with hazards, predators and, worst of all, other rabbits. While the rabbits in your games will solve some of their problems and discover things they never thought to try before, they are still bound by their basic physiology and nature. The Warren is primarily a game about survival and community. There are many creatures, humans included, that are bigger, stronger, meaner, or more numerous than rabbits. The seasons and the elements do not care that rabbits are only little things.

Rabbits cannot hope to meet these threats head on. Only through speed, wits, and keeping a cool head can rabbits hope to bypass the dangers of the outside world. Warrens themselves face dangers as well. Inequity, scarcity, and contempt seed dissent within rabbit society, just as they do human society, and ideological difference can destroy a warren as surely as any human machine. The rabbits in your game must decide for themselves what it means to be a rabbit and how to repair and sustain their warren so that it can thrive.

In The Warren, animals are self-aware, capable of rational thought, and enjoy rich emotional and intellectual lives. Animals also speak to one another as humans do. Like many groups of humans, animals in this world are primarily concerned with the members of their own species and do not go out of their way to converse with members of other species. Finally, animals in The Warren are considerably less constrained than their real world counterparts with regard to their social organization, falling into many of the same ideological traps that human groups do. Rabbits in The Warren need not adhere to the strict social hierarchies that emerge among real-world rabbit warrens they are free to live and love as they see fit.



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shapeshade
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Fri 20 Sep 2019
at 21:06
Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game

Are y'all still looking for a Tutorial PbtA game...?
chromatophoria
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Fri 20 Sep 2019
at 21:08
Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
In reply to shapeshade (msg # 4):

Indeed. What is your offering?
shapeshade
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Sat 21 Sep 2019
at 01:50
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
chromatophoria:
In reply to shapeshade (msg # 4):

Indeed. What is your offering?


I don't particularly want to buy The Warren, but I've been interested in running this:

https://www.casket-land.com

I've got a game already all set up and waiting for THAT.

Then there's Edwin Moriarty's PbtA game BRONZE CIRCLE https://drive.google.com/file/...c0ZrM29vUFVGVTQ/view

I'd love to run that... OR play in it...

Or, I could just run y'all through a Dungeon World...

Or something else... you could propose a setting to me, see what I think...
chromatophoria
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Sat 21 Sep 2019
at 04:17
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
To be honest, I'm not too fussed on setting. That said, Legacy 2e is the game that I'm interested in, and the Worlds of Legacy hacks, like Generation Ship and Worldfall (the scifi ones).

The key thing I'm looking for is actually a demo/tutorial of how this system would work in a forum/rpol context.

The core of Apocalypse is very... broad strokes... and players tend to drive narrative as much as the GM. It's a bit of a different mindset than your regular D6 or D20 based games.
Alyse
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Sat 21 Sep 2019
at 10:33
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
In reply to shapeshade (msg # 6):

You'd not need to buy The Warren, I cover things pretty thoroughly.

Casket Land and Bronze Circle both look interesting. I'd play them...

This message was last edited by the user at 10:41, Sat 21 Sept.

shapeshade
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Sat 21 Sep 2019
at 14:45
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
quote:
Legacy 2e is the game that I'm interested in, and the Worlds of Legacy hacks, like Generation Ship and Worldfall (the scifi ones).


This is the first I've heard of them. I don't own any of those...

quote:
The key thing I'm looking for is actually a demo/tutorial of how this system would work in a forum/rpol context.


If all you wanted was a demonstration of that working on RPol, I could point out a few PbtA games on here for you to look at...


quote:
and players tend to drive narrative as much as the GM. It's a bit of a different mindset than your regular D6 or D20 based games.


Yes, I'm aware.


Alyse:
In reply to shapeshade (msg # 6):

You'd not need to buy The Warren, I cover things pretty thoroughly.


...Are there playbooks after one joins your game...?


Alyse:
Casket Land and Bronze Circle both look interesting. I'd play them...


Got a preference? Mine is Bronze Circle...

This message was last edited by the user at 18:40, Sat 21 Sept.

Alyse
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Sat 21 Sep 2019
at 18:49
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
shapeshade:
...Are there playbooks after one joins your game...?


The Warren doesn't use playbooks, per se. There is a common pool of Character Moves which allow you to individualize your rabbits. Also, I have five pregens from which you could choose.

quote:
Got a preference? Mine is Bronze Circle...


At first glance Casket Land tickled my fancy more, but I'm good with either.
Alyse
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Sat 21 Sep 2019
at 18:51
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
chromatophoria:
Legacy 2e is the game that I'm interested in, and the Worlds of Legacy hacks, like Generation Ship and Worldfall (the scifi ones).


I backed the kickstarter and have all the various books. I would have to read the rules again before I could run it.
shapeshade
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Sun 22 Sep 2019
at 11:20
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
Alyse:
shapeshade:
...Are there playbooks after one joins your game...?


The Warren doesn't use playbooks, per se. There is a common pool of Character Moves which allow you to individualize your rabbits. Also, I have five pregens from which you could choose.



Although I was curious to learn more about your particular game, from what I know of The Warren (I read a review one time), it's a little darker than I feel like playing...

(Dude, you think a game about bunnies might be darker than Casket Land and Bronze Circle? Yeah, dude, that's my understanding.)


Alyse:
quote:
Got a preference? Mine is Bronze Circle...


At first glance Casket Land tickled my fancy more, but I'm good with either.



Well here's my adaptation of Casket Land...

link to another game

I'd be pushing harder for Bronze Circle, but I might be doing a storytelling-based experience with someone else on RPol set in the Bronze Circle soon (she wants to use the setting but not the game as such), so that might satisfy my need for Bronze Circleness somewhat if you're interested in Casket Land.

(P.S. it was around this point that I figured out you're Harry in a certain other game I run, Alyse. I knew your screenname was familiar to me somehow...)


Alyse:
chromatophoria:
Legacy 2e is the game that I'm interested in, and the Worlds of Legacy hacks, like Generation Ship and Worldfall (the scifi ones).


I backed the kickstarter and have all the various books. I would have to read the rules again before I could run it.


Understood...

This message was last edited by the user at 11:44, Sun 22 Sept.

chromatophoria
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Mon 23 Sep 2019
at 07:41
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
In reply to Alyse (msg # 11):

If you are up for running it, I'm open to a slow pace. Just chopping away at it over time. I'm still not sure exactly how the gm/player dynamic would unfold in rpol
shapeshade
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Mon 23 Sep 2019
at 11:44
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
chromatophoria:
In reply to Alyse (msg # 11):

If you are up for running it, I'm open to a slow pace. Just chopping away at it over time. I'm still not sure exactly how the gm/player dynamic would unfold in rpol


I would also like to participate in that-- if you feel you have the time and the wish to run it, Alyse
Alyse
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Mon 23 Sep 2019
at 19:07
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
In reply to shapeshade (msg # 12):

The Warren is about as dark as Watership Down, its chief inspiration. As games powered by the Apocalypse go, it is fairly hardcore. Rabbits only have a life expectancy of a year in the wild, after all. A big draw of The Warren is the potential for multi-generational play like Pendragon, wherein you might have four of five generations of PCs as you play through the Great Pendragon Campaign.

 ~ https://mephitjamesblog.wordpr...7/the-warren-review/
 ~ http://roleoverplaydead.com/news-reviews-the-warren/
Alyse
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Mon 23 Sep 2019
at 19:19
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
In reply to chromatophoria (msg # 13):

It's not really a matter of pacing, it's the learning curve involved and the time required to set up a game. I could just run one of the two quickstarts, however.
chromatophoria
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Tue 24 Sep 2019
at 12:03
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
In reply to Alyse (msg # 16):

No dramas. I hear ya.
Not sure Legacy 2e is a good starting point... considering I've got nil experience with Apocalypse at all.
Alyse
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Wed 25 Sep 2019
at 01:48
Re: Tutorial Apocalypse World or PbtA game
In reply to chromatophoria (msg # 17):

I still think The Warren is the best introductory option. Bedlam Hall would be my next choice, though it probably works better with at least three players. Transit might be amusing and should work with two.