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OOC Thread 5.

Posted by FusilierFor group 0
Oskar Friedmann
player, 742 posts
Lead MOUT Consultant
McCarthy's Mad Dogs
Thu 16 Sep 2010
at 17:13
  • msg #958

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

What happened to the LAW-80?
Robert Mitchell
player, 664 posts
Corporal
British Infantry
Thu 16 Sep 2010
at 17:48
  • msg #959

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Oskar Friedmann:
What happened to the LAW-80?


Didn't someone fire it?
Fusilier
GM, 1721 posts
Your Guide
Thu 16 Sep 2010
at 18:29
  • msg #960

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Oskar Friedmann:
What happened to the LAW-80?


It's in your inventory.
Oskar Friedmann
player, 743 posts
Lead MOUT Consultant
McCarthy's Mad Dogs
Thu 16 Sep 2010
at 18:57
  • msg #961

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Just checking.  We can move that to general stores.

DONE
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:26, Thu 16 Sept 2010.
Mike Catchings
player, 232 posts
HM3
Navy FMF Corpsman (US)
Thu 16 Sep 2010
at 19:39
  • msg #962

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

While we're addressing the supply issue, some people still haven't let me know if they've got any extra field dressings.  If you all don't want to share what you have, that's fine.  Just let me know.

So far,
Mitch/Rooke have 1 each
Caleb has 2 that he's keeping
JJ has 10.  I'll probably distribute those, or put them with the doctor's kit and the rest of the medical supplies.
Between party stores and Mike's kits, I've got 25-30 or so extra dressings.  I'd like to have 2 dressings per person.  I'm not going to bother giving them to the militia, mostly because I suspect they don't have a lot of medical training.
Fusilier
GM, 1723 posts
Your Guide
Thu 16 Sep 2010
at 20:48
  • msg #963

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Where are the 12 claymores going to Rooke and the Militia coming from? There were only 6 listed in stores which are now on militia #4.

No manpacks issued? Just checking?

Lots of guys don't have webbing. Do you want to address this? I Issued out the last 2 spare sets that were in the UAZ.

I didn't add the M240 to Oskar yet as I am not sure how much ammo he is being issued with?

See the updated Cast thread, msg #26, for details on the platoon auxiliaries.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:34, Thu 16 Sept 2010.
Andrew Rooke
NPC, 247 posts
Corporal
British Infantry
Thu 16 Sep 2010
at 21:12
  • msg #964

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Fusilier:
Where are the 12 claymores going to Rooke and the Militia coming from? There were only 6 listed in stores which are now on militia #4.


There were 12 originally and we've already moved 6 to be accounted for on Rooke's character sheet - see message #910.

GM - Ok, good.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:19, Thu 16 Sept 2010.
Fusilier
GM, 1724 posts
Your Guide
Thu 16 Sep 2010
at 21:17
  • msg #965

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Mike Catchings:
While we're addressing the supply issue, some people still haven't let me know if they've got any extra field dressings.  If you all don't want to share what you have, that's fine.  Just let me know.


Just to speed things up, here are the amounts that the PCs have. I'll leave it to the actual players to announce if they want to hold onto them though. I listed the ones in the rucksacks separate, since I assume they are not being carried into battle.

Pearce - 2
Rooke - 1
Anna - 0
Fox - 1
Caleb - 1 (I only see one but you say 2?)
Felix - 0
Frank - 1 (+1 Ruck)
Meyer - 2
Jed - 5
JJM - 10 (not sure where these are carried)
Young - 0
Kurt - 2 (+2 Ruck)
Marc - 1
Oskar - 1
Mitch - 1
Varis - 1
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:20, Thu 16 Sept 2010.
Fusilier
GM, 1725 posts
Your Guide
Thu 16 Sep 2010
at 21:30
  • msg #966

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Caleb Mulcahy:
Can the definitive version of this list be posted somewhere in an Intel thread so it doesn't get lost. Thanks


If you mean to refer to what the militia have, it's listed near the bottom of the "Cast" thread.
Francis 'Frank' Benucci
player, 380 posts
Sergeant /U.S. Rangers
Call Sign 'Found Four'
Thu 16 Sep 2010
at 22:32
  • msg #967

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

 In reply to Mike Catchings (msg #962):

I forgot dude.  Sending it now
This message was last edited by the player at 10:06, Fri 17 Sept 2010.
Jed Black
player, 92 posts
Major
Spec Forces (US)
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 05:54
  • msg #968

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Fusilier:
I didn't add the M240 to Oskar yet as I am not sure how much ammo he is being issued with?

All one thousand rounds. He has a dedicated ammo carrier and can split the rest up amongst Group 3.
It's an automatic weapon. Take it from me (four years carrying an M60), a thousand rounds might seem like a lot, but it can disappear in just a few short minutes of high intensity combat.

Re webbing, well we don't exactly have a lot of options. Backpacks (civilian daypack types) would be the second preference but we seem a little short on them too. Pockets and sandbags might well be the best we can do.
Those with AK's and other mag fed weapons could tape a couple together (we have a roll of duct tape in stores), but reloading for most is likely to take time unless the mags are laid out on the ground in front of them ready to go.
Belts can be draped over the shoulder (not comfortable though no matter what you see in the movies) or sandbagged and tied to the belt with some of the 59 metres of cord.

Was any webbing recovered from the sewers? Anything else of use? (I wasn't paying a lot of attention to that side of events).
Fusilier
GM, 1726 posts
Your Guide
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 07:15
  • msg #969

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Jed Black:
All one thousand rounds. He has a dedicated ammo carrier and can split the rest up amongst Group 3.
It's an automatic weapon. Take it from me (four years carrying an M60), a thousand rounds might seem like a lot, but it can disappear in just a few short minutes of high intensity combat.


I am quite aware that it is both an automatic weapon and capable of a high rate of fire Leg. I just needed to know how much for the record keeping.
Caleb Mulcahy
player, 51 posts
Spec4
Infantry (US)
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 07:26
  • msg #970

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Fusilier:
Caleb - 1 (I only see one but you say 2?)


Apologies - I only have one medkit.
Caleb Mulcahy
player, 52 posts
Spec4
Infantry (US)
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 07:31
  • msg #971

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Fusilier:
Caleb Mulcahy:
Can the definitive version of this list be posted somewhere in an Intel thread so it doesn't get lost. Thanks


If you mean to refer to what the militia have, it's listed near the bottom of the "Cast" thread.


I meant the individual squads that have been designated. It might be useful to name them as well, rather than just being "Jed's team" or "those with the Bradley".

We could go for Team Alpha, Team Bravo, etc, or someone can be creative if they want....
Jed Black
player, 93 posts
Major
Spec Forces (US)
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 07:41
  • msg #972

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

In reply to Fusilier (msg #969):

Sorry if that came across a little harsh. It was only intended to remind everyone if it's used to it's best advantage, we're going to chew through the ammo.

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg #971):

Group 1, 2 and 3 have worked pretty well so far I think. With everything else we have to worry about, the simple approach is probably best.
Francis 'Frank' Benucci
player, 381 posts
Sergeant /U.S. Rangers
Call Sign 'Found Four'
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 10:09
  • msg #973

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Mitch, master of the stores, how many 40mm rounds are available for Frank?
Robert Mitchell
player, 665 posts
Corporal
British Infantry
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 10:50
  • msg #974

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Francis 'Frank' Benucci:
Mitch, master of the stores, how many 40mm rounds are available for Frank?


Frank - the most important thing is that there isn't a M203 spare in the stores as was first believed.  The one Frank returned to the stores was probably destroyed in the BMP wreck (see messages #930 and #937) and is NOT an admin error by Fuse as has been suggested.  Certain bits of equipment have been lost in the BMP wreck and the M203 appears to be one of them.

Therefore if Frank is going to have an M203 I think that the best option is for Mike to pass his one along.  From Mike's previous comments then I think that he will be happy to do this.  If this has already happened then my apologies for missing it.

Therefore assuming that Frank takes Mike's M203 he will also take the ammo for it that Mike has.  In addition to the ammo Mike has there are 12 40mmN HEDP rounds in the stores but there is no bandoleer or similar to carry them in.

Jed Black:
Fusilier:
I didn't add the M240 to Oskar yet as I am not sure how much ammo he is being issued with?

All one thousand rounds. He has a dedicated ammo carrier and can split the rest up amongst Group 3.


This makes the assumption that Oskar is sticking with Group 3 and not going on a bit of a roving role as he's suggested IC.  It might be best to assume that Oskar's ammo carrier will accompany Oskar in his roving role and to possibly dump a belt on Rooke as well (if Rooke is also joining Oskar as suggested IC).
Jed Black
player, 94 posts
Major
Spec Forces (US)
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 11:28
  • msg #975

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Robert Mitchell:
Therefore if Frank is going to have an M203 I think that the best option is for Mike to pass his one along.  From Mike's previous comments then I think that he will be happy to do this.

I think that is a very good idea. We need weapons in the hands of those best suited to use them.
quote:
This makes the assumption that Oskar is sticking with Group 3 and not going on a bit of a roving role as he's suggested IC.

Yes, it does. The M240, although brought initially by Oskar into the game, is really a unit weapon. It's best kept where it can best be used - as a support weapon for Group 3. Regardless of who's actually pulling the trigger, all the available ammo is best taken. It may not actually be used, but best to have it on hand than wish it was.

It's also a very bad idea to split up further than we already are. I'm sure we all remember the line "divide and conquer".
Oskar Friedmann
player, 744 posts
Lead MOUT Consultant
McCarthy's Mad Dogs
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 11:48
  • msg #976

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Yeah, if Oskar went roving he wouldn't take the machinegun or the ammo carrier.
Fusilier
GM, 1728 posts
Your Guide
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 18:58
  • msg #977

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

I'll be updating the map and creating another platoon diagram (what Mike was talking about).

In this turn, the platoon is to step off (or be late for the timing).

This is the largest attack we've done, so please by detailed with the things like, platoon formation (JJM's call), squad formations (each leader's call), destinations, routes, etc.
Oskar Friedmann
player, 745 posts
Lead MOUT Consultant
McCarthy's Mad Dogs
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 19:31
  • msg #978

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Is Kurt's player around?  I haven't seen him post in a while and his last logon was 9/1.  Do we still want him leading a squad?
Fusilier
GM, 1729 posts
Your Guide
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 19:35
  • msg #979

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

In reply to Oskar Friedmann (msg #978):

He's still busy with work. I was considering that last night.

I don't really want to NPC him because of his position. I'll also be pretty busy gaming out the turns as it is. Suggestions?

How about put him in the FOO part with Fox (sniper/spotter or 2 snipers), and promote another PC in his place.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:37, Fri 17 Sept 2010.
Francis 'Frank' Benucci
player, 382 posts
Sergeant /U.S. Rangers
Call Sign 'Found Four'
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 21:02
  • msg #980

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Catching, you want the 203 or you want me to carry it?  It's no biggie for me, just asking!

Thanks Mitch
Robert Mitchell
player, 666 posts
Corporal
British Infantry
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 22:07
  • msg #981

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Fusilier:
In reply to Oskar Friedmann (msg #978):

He's still busy with work. I was considering that last night.

I don't really want to NPC him because of his position. I'll also be pretty busy gaming out the turns as it is. Suggestions?

How about put him in the FOO part with Fox (sniper/spotter or 2 snipers), and promote another PC in his place.


I think that the obvious solution is to do as you've said Fuse and move Kurt to join Fox.  As a replacement squad leader the obvious answer is Oskar (unless JJM has an issue IC with Oskar being a squad leader, which I don't believe is the case).  That will give us the following:

Group 1
Frank            M4/M203
Mitchell         M249
Rooke            L85
Catchings        M16A2
Zajac            M249  (translator)
#5               M16A1
#8               M16A1
#18              AK-74
#19              AK-74

Group 2
Jed              Bren/HK CAW - FO
Meyer            G3A3/RPG-16
Mulcahy          AK-74/BG-15/Armbrust*  (translator)
#9               AKSU (ammo carrier for Bren)
#10              MP-5A2 w/light + 3xRPG-16 rockets
#20              MP-5 fixed stock
#21              PPSH-41
#22              PPSH-41 + carrying Armbrust for Mulcahy

Group 3
Oskar            M240
Varis            AK-74/BG-15/M72A4* (translator)
Aleksandar       M3 SMG   (translator)
#7               RPK-74
#4               AK-74
#11              AK-74 + 7.62mmN belts
#12              AK-74 + M72A4 for Varis
#14              AK-74

Mortar/softskin group
Young            FN FAL/M79
Low Blow         Pump shotgun   (translator)
#6               SKS   (assistant mortarman)
#13              9mmP local SMG
#15              PPSH-41

Bradley
McCarthy         M16  (commander)
St Gil           M249/M177  (gunner)
Felix Steinhoff  M4 carbine (driver)
Lt Pearce        M231 (liason/M231 gunner)
Anna             AK-74 (M231 gunner)
#17              PPSH-41 (runner)

Sniper/FO group
Weiss            M21/AT-4 (some Polish) - FO
Fox              L42  (sniper/FO)
#16              PPSH-41

(Note - I've also assumed that the M203 transfers from Mike to Frank)

EDIT - equipment amended to incorporate JJM's IC orders about leaving mines in the Bradley.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:28, Fri 17 Sept 2010.
Helmut Meyer
player, 596 posts
Unteroffizier
PanzerPionier (Germany)
Fri 17 Sep 2010
at 22:27
  • msg #982

Re: Do we REALLY need to arm them all?

Sounds good.
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