Alright so how do you guys want to handle this? It's probably best to skim over bartering and handle that OOC, but JJM has a list of other things the group should be doing over the next couple of days. I'm going to use that as a guide but I'd like to have some other players' imput and involvement - even if we are going skim over that a bit as well.



- Find Wiktor Tenza. He has a truck you need and he owes you.
No skills required

- Scavenge for barrels and potential trade goods.
Scrounge

- Modify vehicles (incomplete).
Mechanic / Machinist

- Reinforce defenses (incomplete).
Combat Engineer / Civil Engineer / Excavation

- Visit F.League with bid on KPV offer/trade
No skills required

- Trade with smugglers (now or later???)
Persuasion (barter)

- Improve living quarters for winter (on hold?)
Civil Engineer / Mechanic / Machinist

- Construct a still (need items first via F.League deal)
Multiple


(I listed a few skills that will probably be relevant)
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:32, Thu 27 Nov 2014.

Billy is happy to continue with reinforcing the defences as long as the 40mm is at least look for.

Alan is probably suited to helping with negotiations of some sort. So he would be happy to help with the FL deal, with the truck, construct the still (Don't know if his skills would help) or scavenge for barrels.

Would the island be best for the barrels ?

Sorry. - have been out drinking for the afternoon/evening so will catch up fully tomorrow.

Ta,

Andy

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 1):

Are you including scavenging the sites close to our base in this?

Frank is good with working with Billy and the defenses (hence his slight bump in CBE skill and trying to expand his field of knowledge).  He can also be brought along on anything else people may want him to go on or think they need him.

Also, this is silly but, did we actually get anything out of bringing the BM back?

Please point out the thread if I missed it please...
This message was last edited by the player at 00:46, Fri 28 Nov 2014.

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 7):

Kind of... but no. You might have gotten more but Wright got shot up during the BM's handover and has since disappeared (died/gone home/recovering in safety). The Mad Dogs got an 81mm mortar out it as well as information about Operation Omega - and a promise of help in reaching the evacuation ports in Germany.

The mortar you have, but the part about going home was been declined by the Mad Dogs. It took longer than expected to return to Gdansk and with the evacuation date nearing, it was felt that an attempt to reach Germany in time would be futile and just get everyone killed.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:04, Fri 28 Nov 2014.

Billy is going to spend the following xp.

Autogun 4
Thrown Weapons 3
Scrounging 1+2 = 3

Alan is going to put his 1 XP into scrounging.

Also I was going to deal with this in character, but this is probably quicker. Alan will take from stores the following:

5.56mmN, 30rnd Mag x2
5.56mmN            x165

Gas Mask (UK) w/carrier  x1               -          -          -
Gas Mask (UK) Filters    x2
Binoculars               x1
Rain Poncho (Civ Black)  x1               -          -          -
Wool Hat (Black)         x1


and he will give the following to store:

5.45mmB x30

Thanks.

Cymon.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:05, Fri 28 Nov 2014.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 9):
In reply to Alan Little (msg # 10):

Thanks. Adjust your sheets if you haven't.

Fuse,

Just to clarify please can we see if the smugglers are interested in any of the following for trade and the prices they'll give us.

AK-47 (Poor Condition) x3
Kbk Tantal (No Stock) x1
Radom Hunter SA Rifle x1
PM-63 RAK Submachinegun x1 & 25rnd mag x1
M231 Port Gun x1
M9 Pistol x1 & 15rnd mag x1
K-Bar x1
Bayonet (AK) x1
Combat knife w/sheath x1

I suspect that the answer is no as this stuff is poorer quality to what they're trying to sell to us.  If that's the case then we'll try to sell these to other merchants in Krakow.  Do you just want to narrate that or role play through it?

Ta,

Andy.

They won't be interested in those things.

Narrate through is fine, but I don't have any idea of that yet. I know a couple guys are digging and Ferro offered to go look for Tenza, but that's it.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 13):

Does Kaminski know anyone who might be interested in buying them?

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 14):

He'd tell you to go to the markets.

If nobody else volunteers I'll take Morgan and Caleb (he's NPC'd right?) with me. The zodiac is no good for it so we'll have to take the Humvee.

Should put this in IC or is there more to the current activities?

In reply to Ferro (msg # 16):

Caleb is NPC'd yes, and correct on the zodiac being useless for where you want to search for Tenza.

Yes, I need PC actions for "tomorrow" so that's fine. We're done with what's happening in the present.

Ferro,

I suggest that we do a 2 part trip the next day and the group that goes is Ortega, Ferro, Aleksander and Morgan in the Hummer.

We go firstly to the markets to try to trade the left over weapons and to buy some 40mmN grenades (if we can) and we then go to look for Tenza.  How does that sound?

Ta,

Andy.

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 18):

That is okay with me.

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 18):

We should price and check for availability on the ammunition we intend to buy from the smugglers in case we can get a better deal at one of the city markets.

Re: the gunshield for the Humvee's .50cal
1) What armor value do you want it to be? Armor plate needs .5cm for each AV point.
2) Did you only want coverage from one direction? Or multiple?

I am using this link before to determine the weight...
http://www.portlandbolt.com/to...e-weight-calculator/

Re: work on the BMP Ambulance
1) Did you come to a decision on what weaponry do you want to mount on the deck?
2) Was there a plan for added armor to the BMP too?


Map for the Mad Dogs who are building the defenses and are now in need of materials. Note that the descriptions I gave for each location is based on a previous visit and you haven't gone of any of these places this turn. You're still in the compound.


This message was last edited by the GM at 04:23, Sat 29 Nov 2014.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 21):

I think we had decided the Bunker/Pedestrian Tunnel was going to be a priority. Maybe this order by location;

1. Shipping Facility
2. Bunker/Pedestrian Tunnel
3. Scrap Yard
4. Recycling Depot
5. Building Supplies Warehouse
6. Burned Lot
7. School

Alright, IC though please.

For the party scrounging, you may want to consider the time it takes to search, the number of characters in your party, and the number of potential areas to search.

You have 7 areas to of potential search area and 6 PCs (Pows aren't scrounging I assume). You also probably don't want anyone to be alone, so that means pairing up and going as one or more groups.

Using the 2013 rules, to scrounge it takes 1/2 hour for a hectare of rural or wilderness land, two hours for a block of suburban houses or businesses, or fifteen minutes for one floor of a multi-story apartment or office building. In your case the nature of what you need means you may need to start ripping up and dismantling buildings for materials - so the estimated times will have to reflect that.
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:09, Sat 29 Nov 2014.

I was thinking that we just work through the list, not necessarily doing it all in one day. Spread it over several days and stay together as a group. Do our individual scrounging score become accumulative or is it based on the character with the highest ?

I'm not sure about the gun-shield but the way I envisaged the BMP going is this:

1) Convert the Z00-Two mount to take the two KPVs (We'll need to use some of the KPV ammo we have to sight the new targeting system in)
2) Bolt/weld/bracket the mount to the top of the BMP, this has been done a lot with MTLBs but we'll need to remove the wheels and do some serious bracing so it doesn't fall off. I envisage lowering the stabalising screws on the four legs and cutting holes in the deck to accommodate them. Then we bracket these to the interior sides so that the base is as flush to the deck as it can be. Once that's done we weld or bolt the mount to the deck, if we can and then put brackets over the four legs to hold it down. Once that's done there'll need to be blocks at the end of each mount leg to help absorb recoil.
3) Armouring the mount: Again, from what I've seen, a tubular frame is welded to the rotating part of the mount and then plates about six inches wide and four foot long are welded to the frame on the left, right and rear of the mount. The front is too filled with gun and mechanics to do much with. The gunner seems to climb in from the top and in winter it looks like a very unpleasant place to be. I'm guessing that Varis is going to end up as gunner...

Some of the jobs can be doubled up: the armour can be put on as the stabalisers are being braced etc but it's still a longish job.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 25):

It's averaged out... while the time it takes for a search is divided by each man.

You dont have to do it all in one day, but without materials work remains halted on improving the defenses.

Thanks for thr details on the BMP weaponry Mark.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:02, Sat 29 Nov 2014.

Work assignments for the moment:

Construction:
McCarthy
Lines
O'Brien
Benucci
Kolstrup
Hollister
POW x2

Trading:
Ortega
Ferro
Aleksandar
Morgan

Scavenging:
Little
Fox
Krupp
Anna
Majchrzak
Varis
Mulcahy
Wilson

Vehicles:
Marshall
Cooper (as gofer)

Ta,

Andy

Kolstrupp, Hollister and the POWs will roof. Everyone else will gather materials.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 29):

Fuse,

Just to be clear one of Per and Owen will be a sentry while the POWs work.

Ta,

Andy

Totally.

Also, we need to be taking off rations for them. The POWs eat what we eat and have the same breaks.

Whatever Kamineski says...

Just a quick question.
The barbed wire on the fences is it concertinaed or just strung along the top ?

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 33):

Strung on the top - barbed like a cattle fence.

The link below is to a new map I've just started working on. I've posted the link at the very top of the "Intel, Maps & Comms" thread as well. There were a couple other Google Maps that we've used before, but ignore all of them from here on.

There's a lot more to add so I'll be updating this one periodically. If you want new places plotted let me know.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/...73qCrNs.kEZ1sNcvVVak
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:06, Sun 30 Nov 2014.

Results of Ortega/Ferro visit at the Solidarity Market. Please handle any trade for this in the OOC. Everything else should be done IC.

Two (of the three) items that they were looking for were found:
6x 40mmN HE (all reloads) were available at 6$ value each
3x 100rnd Belt of 14.5mm Link were available at 40$ value each
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:47, Sat 29 Nov 2014.

Ortega isn't present when JJM and Krupp are talking so I can't say this IC but please can I remind you of the political situation in Gdansk.  If we were to try to build up a military force including armour, in particular tanks, then the IB would either try to force us to merge with them, force us to give them our vehicles or view us as a threat to them.  At present I suspect that the BMP rearmed with a couple of KPVs is likely to prompt this reaction anyway.

That's regardless of working out where we would source those vehicles and the supplies required to maintain them.

We'd like to buy all of these for a total value of $156.

We'd also like to sell the items below.  What can we get for them?

AK-47 (Poor Condition) x3
Kbk Tantal (No Stock) x1
Radom Hunter SA Rifle x1
PM-63 RAK Submachinegun x1 & 25rnd mag x1
M231 Port Gun x1
M9 Pistol x1 & 15rnd mag x1
K-Bar x1
Bayonet (AK) x1
Combat knife w/sheath x1

I don't know what we can get as a "currency" but we'd obviously like something that we can either use (food, ammo, fuel, medical supplies, batteries, etc) or something small and valuable (gold, silver, medical supplies again, batteries again, etc).  Something we can trade on to the smugglers is also desirable.

What's possible/available?

Ta,

Andy

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 38):

One thing I forgot to ask in character was see to if any 7.62mmN AP ammunition was available. Last ditch attack on light armour sort of thing. Also what type are the 14.5mm we have been able to source ? We still probably have a need for .50 AP if we are able to find any cheaper then the smugglers.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 39):

I know that there's no .50 cal at all as that was something that Ortega was looking for specifically.

What is 7.62mmN AP ammo?  I didn't know that that existed in this timeline?

Ta,

Andy

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 40):

I was thinking of the M61 or the M993 armour piercing cartridge that was envisioned to make the M60, M240 and M14 more effective against structures and lightly armoured vehicles.

M61 Type classification: 31 JUL 1968

Armour Penetration:
300 meters: 0.28 in (7 mm)
500 meters: 0.2 in (5 mm)

M993 Type classification: 16 FEB 1996

Armour Penetration
500 meters: 0.28 in (7 mm)

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 41):

Ok, way more knowledge than I have! <G>. Very good knowledge though!

I have no idea - I assume that all 7.62mmN ammo we have currently is standard ammo not AP.

I have several thousand pulled bullets and have in the past loaded up some. Fun stuff makes short work of 5mm plate and the masonry blocks holding it up.

I suppose it is to late to say we looked for it IC at the markets. Is there a list of the various markets in the city ?

Thank you for that map. It makes things MUCH clearer.

One thing.  Please can someone interrogate the two POWs IC.  We aren't certain what unit they're from and even whether they are Polish or Russian or from one of the Soviet republics.  It could turn out that they're interested in joining up with us, particularly after we've fed them!

Fuse,

As part of selling this gear I'm assuming that Ortega has a couple of bottles of beer to drink with Tenza.  I hope that that's ok?

Ta,

Andy.

AK-47 (Poor Condition) x3 - $100
Kbk Tantal (No Stock) x1 - 100$
Radom Hunter SA Rifle x1 - 150$
PM-63 RAK Submachinegun x1 & 25rnd mag x1 - $175
M231 Port Gun x1 - $50
M9 Pistol x1 & 15rnd mag x1 - $50
K-Bar x1 - $10
Bayonet (AK) x1 $ - $3
Combat knife w/sheath x1 $ - $10



I'm not sure what you mean, aren't you trading for the 40mmHE and 14.5mm rounds?

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 47):

I think that we have a misunderstanding here.  Our intention is to trade the lot away for items that we can either use ourselves or trade with the smugglers so that we can hopefully give them less food, coal and mortar bombs in return for the weapons and ammo they have.  The total value of those items is $848 and we've already found items worth $156 (the 40mmN HE reloads and 14.5mm rounds).  That means that we're also looking for other items to the value of $692.  Does that make sense?

Some obvious things that we'd be looking for are:
 - fuel
 - food, particularly preserved food
 - ammo, 5.56mmN, 5.45mmB, 7.62mmN, 7.62mmS, .45 ACP and shotgun shells/slugs - if we can find any 7.62mmN AP rounds that Cymon was talking about then those will be of particular interest
 - grenades, in particular 40mmS grenades and RPG-7 rockets
 - medical supplies, particularly personal med kits
 - batteries
 - gold
 - silver
 - anything else that is small and valuable

As we're handling this OOC I suggest that you just tell us what we get rather than give us options.  Does that help?

Owen and/or Per,

Could one or both of you do this?  That's assuming that your character speaks some Polish.

Ta,

Andy

That's why I was asking what you were looking for in addition to 40mm. Here's what you can grab for trading in the rest of the items...

2x   1L Bottle (Beer)
2x   6h Candles
20x  Tobacco
2x   Field Dressings (Postwar)
24x  12ga. Shotgun (Reloads - but good quality)
100x 5.45mmB
150x 7.62mmS
8x   500g Bottles (w/Preserved Venison)
40kg Potatoes/Carrots/Turnip Mix
10kg Corn/Maize
1x   20L Jerry (Ethanol)
2x   D Cell Batteries
6x   AA Cell Batteries
5x   10$ Silver Coins
1x   1L Motor Oil (Used)
1x   Hygiene Set (Toothpaste/Razor/Soap)
2x   Disposable Lighters

This message was last edited by the GM at 23:03, Mon 01 Dec 2014.

Sorry - I misunderstood what you meant.  My fault.  Apologies and thanks for sorting this out.

From this list there are a number of items where I've commented in purple that we might trade to the smugglers.  Do you want to short cut things and give us the value that the smugglers will give us for them?

2x   1L Bottle (Beer) - As Tenza isn't interested in these they'll get shared out when the trading team gets back - just a small glass each but a boost to morale.
2x   6h Candles - Are the smugglers interested in these at all and if so at what value?
20x  Tobacco - 5 of these can go to Marshall as he's the only dedicated smoker in the unit (I believe) - The other 15 can be traded with the smugglers - what value will they put on them?
2x   Field Dressings (Postwar) - these will go into the stores unless someone wants to claim them now?
24x  12ga. Shotgun (Reloads - but good quality) - Ferro - do you want these?
100x 5.45mmB - these will go into stores
150x 7.62mmS - these will go into stores
8x   500g Bottles (w/Preserved Venison) - is this particularly valuable food?  Would the smugglers give us a good price for some or all of it?
40kg Potatoes/Carrots/Turnip Mix - this will go into food stores for the moment
10kg Corn/Maize - this will go into food stores for the moment
1x   20L Jerry (Ethanol) - I'm a little unclear whether we can/should mix methanol and ethanol in an engine - please can you advise?
2x   D Cell Batteries - these will go into stores
6x   AA Cell Batteries - these will go into stores
5x   10$ Silver Coins - these will go into stores
1x   1L Motor Oil (Used) - these will go into stores
1x   Hygiene Set (Toothpaste/Razor/Soap) - are the smugglers interested in this and what value would they put on it?
2x   Disposable Lighters - are the smugglers interested in these and what value would they put on them?

You wouldn't know what value the smugglers would place for these items unless you bought them first.

- Candles are consumables, so the smugglers would take them. Same with lighters and food.
- The deer meat is valuable food yes. It's bottled and will last a long time too. Meat isn't easy to come by.
- The hygiene set is probably the only thing the smugglers wouldn't want.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:51, Mon 01 Dec 2014.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 52):

OK - thanks.

It's not necessary to mix. You have jerry cans to keep fuels separated and 20L can give the Humvee about 25km of road travel.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:25, Tue 02 Dec 2014.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 54):

Thanks.

Any volunteers for a bit of interaction?

If no-one wants to do it, I'll interrogate them but JJ already has A LOT OF FACE TIME.

I'm in

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 58):

Superb.  Let's hope you don't get shot in the meantime! <G>

Fuse,

Do we have maps that cover the route to Elblag?  Or do we need to get some?

Ta,

Andy

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 60):

Only partial. The map Ortega has... "Local Gdansk Area" is a proper 1:50,000 scale topographic map, but it ends at Nowy Dwor Gdanski. It's only 50km x 50km with Gdansk at the top center.

JJM's map is a large scale map of northern Poland that shows more coverage, including Elblag, but much less detail (1:250,000 scale) which is more like a roadmap than anything else.

I'm not aware of any other maps.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 61):

Thanks.

Is Tosh anywhere near the person shooting at Frank?

In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 63):

I'm not going to place where everyone is. I'll leave it to the players to decide how much involvement they want.

If you are in the school you're on the ground floor. Frank is two floors up. There's a stairwell at the north and south ends of the building.

If you are in the compound then you can hear the gunfire and that's it.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 64):

Thanks.  Tosh volunteered to dig holes so I'm guessing that he's still with the construction team.

I'm sorry folks. I've lost track of where Varis and Per are IG ATM. Per was watching the prisoners earlier. Varis was with Ortega but I see his name mentioned as being with the salvage team. I'm a little confused. I haven't been reading posts as closely as I should have. If you would forgive this lapse, and indulge me a bit by giving me a location for my PCs, I'll get back to posting IC.

-

The prisoners are being guarded in the compound where JJM was questioning them, so Kolstrup is in the compound as well. He can hear gunfire coming from the schoolhouse.

Varis was on scavenging detail and posted to that effect so he's in the schoolhouse on the ground floor, ripping apart the place or whatever. He can hear gunfire coming from two floors up. Billy is there with him at least - and others may be as well but that's to be determined with player input. Until that happens only Frank, Billy and Varis are in the school for certain. Think of it like people are coming and going, carrying materials back to the compound. If nobody else posts that they are in the school, then at this specific time only you three are there.

There is a stairwell leading to the upper floors at the north and south ends of the building.

---

Note to all, I have a lot of IC, OOC and PM work on my plate at the moment. If I'm slow to get back to messages directed at me, I'm not ignoring you, just getting something else done first. Thanks for patience.

I'm going to delay putting up a turn for the schoolhouse tonight to give some people a extra time.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:50, Thu 04 Dec 2014.

For anyone interested, here are the rules I'll be using for cold weather effects on movement, survival (clothing requirements), and vehicle maintenance. It doesn't really apply quite yet, but it will soon.

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In reply to Fusilier (msg # 68):

Is there a list of the different markets ?

Are the people in the compound able to hear the shots?

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 70):

Yes.

Great, thankyou.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 69):

In the intel thread there is a list of various places in the city, but it's incomplete. The map also shows a couple, but that too isn't complete either.

Solidarity Market is the largest, located at the Monument to the Fallen Shipyard Workers of 1970, in the middle of the city. It's open air, but there is an indoor section. The market is controlled by the Merchant cartels. Quantities and quality of goods are usually decent, but prices a bit higher.

Thieves Night Market is a smaller bazaar that runs in the evening. It's name is rooted in recent local history when people did what they had to to survive, but these days it's (mostly) legit. The traders are unaffiliated with the Merchant Union. The quality and quantity of goods here is usually poor, but prices often better than the Solidarity Market, and you can get things that society usually frowns upon as well.

Hala Trargowa is a large (prewar) indoor market. Damaged by an accidental fire prior to the Mad Dogs' arrival, it's been closed for a while, but recently opened again. It's big, but not as large as the Solidarity Market and a lot of the trade revolves around bulk grains, seeds, wheat, and other staples. There are no weapons sold here.

Waterfront Docks (the fish market) is not a really a market, but caught fish and trade goods intended for import/export can be bartered for (usually in bulk only).

Market Street has no actual market, but is where laborers are hired and the handful of boarding houses and vice dens fuel a small economy. Minor trade can be found here.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:52, Thu 04 Dec 2014.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 73):

Thanks very helpful.

Not sure Frank would have his radio with him or even on.  I'll leave that final call to Fuse but, I don't see Frank having it on if he has it...

JJM, Frank is already in the school

That's fine. It made sense for Per to try.

-

Sorry, the assignments had him with the construction team. I'll amend when I can.

Note there are two stairwells. If you aren't specific, I'll roll on it and it's a fifty fifty chance for each. Same goes with front and rear entrances to the school. Thanks.

Most of the roof of the school is missing or caved in.

- Kolstrup / Lines / Wilson... check the picture of the school and the metal fence. You'll have to decide to try to stop and climb over it or keep going and enter through the gate seen on the map. You're approaching from the left side of the image btw. You can then either enter through the front or back of the school.

- JJM / Marshall... I'm not sure if this is where you intended to be. If it is, you have the same problem with the fence. Range is 100m to the windows you're covering, but the angle isn't the best for the north face.




This message was last edited by the GM at 19:23, Fri 05 Dec 2014.

Also, be aware that nobody knows where Caleb is right now. People have been coming and going from the school to the compound and it's been hard to keep track of where everyone is at every moment. The last most of you know is that he sliced open his hand and went to get it bandaged, but that was a while ago.

Turn is up.

Please post your actions in a Private Message in the IC section that can be viewed only by the people currently with your PC. An exception to this is any radio dialogue. Thanks.

If you don't know where you are (or who you are with for that matter) please ask me in a PM.

And what the heck happened to my map??? Who is that?
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:52, Tue 09 Dec 2014.

Added in some rough sketches of the layout to help explain things a little.

Fuse, how thick are the internal walls?

In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 82):

Very thick.

Sorry, guys.  I'm still out of sorts and not feeling up to posting.  My gastroenterologist is not going to be talking to me about the results of my colonoscopy and upper endoscopy until the 31^st, though he told my wife after the procedure that there did not seem to be any obvious cause for my tummy problems.  More news later.  Fuse, please continue NPC'ing Owen (if you've been doing so).  Thanks.

In reply to Owen Hollister (msg # 84):

Nasty - hope you get better soon!

Andy

In reply to Owen Hollister (msg # 84):

Thanks for the update. Get well and take care. I'll hold Owen until you're better.

I had the same procedures done the December before last. Same result. The abdominal pain that I'd been experiencing almost daily for the preceding several months completely went away after the procedure. For a little bit, it had be questioning my sanity. I hope this all ends well for you. I certainly empathize with the discomfort and uncertainty that goes along with not knowing what's ailing you.

-

Good luck with everything, I hope you return to health soon.

From here on, all posts can be public (no PM hidden parts).
I'm also revealing all previous PM sections as well.

Note there was a radio transmission from Frank above that is only now visible, so that's heard by all with a working radio.


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This message was last edited by the GM at 03:13, Fri 12 Dec 2014.

Feel better soon buddy!

Turn is up.

This will be the last turn before I skip over the next day entirely. I already rolled for future encounters and there won't be anything that needs to be played out for the next 24 hours. Unless you have other plans, the next turn will cover:

(A) finishing the scheduled work
(B) getting the results of the F.League bid
(C) making the trade with smugglers
(D) carrying on with anything posted IC this turn (with the prisoners for example)

I can handle 'A-C' without any further input, so IC posts should just focus on 'D'.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:38, Sat 13 Dec 2014.

My router has died and my posting will be erratic until my new one arrives.  That might be as much as until Friday but I'm hoping for earlier.  Please NPC as necessary.

Sorry about this.

Andy

You guys dont have a battery charger.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 94):

That will make things difficult. He will work on the radio and wind turbine and if possible make something to charge the batteries off that.

Hi guys, sorry for my extended absence. RL has been busy and I just haven't been able to keep up. I hope to do better in 2015!

I'm not fully up to speed on all of what has been happening, but if anyone has any instructions for me then please go for it!

Note - my radio battery is still dead (as far as I know).

Turn is up. There is a bit of information there, some needing attention before we move on, but I shot things ahead so we can get back to adventuring style gameplay again.

I found this on making a battery charger, and rolled vs. Little's skill. He can build it if you get the parts... which isn't hard (scrounging)... just that because the parts are item specific it'll take more hours than usual scrounging attempts to find them. Also note that the inclusion of proper tools will help with the actual construction.

http://www.otherpower.com/othe...riments_charger.html

Also, Little didn't fix the broken radio, but at least now you know what's wrong with it. Again, proper tools will needed to attempt a repair.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:06, Tue 16 Dec 2014.

The scavenger we killed - when he gets buried he's being stripped of any clothing and boots that are we can either use or trade.  Clothing may be ruined from his wounds but boots and socks are worth keeping.

Also is it possible for Tosh to get any wire or cord that can be used to make snares?

Is this the broken radio Ortega has on his character sheet or another one?

I believe that's the radio, yes.

Snares for cat or rat? That's about all that is around here.

I have a new router and will hopefully post IC tomorrow evening.

Thanks,

Andy

Also, when Frank has a chance, he wants to checks the function-ability of his Para-Ordnance.

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 102):

Sorry, I knew you intended on Frank doing that but I forgot to include it in the turn. I've edited it and it's in there now.

Ferro raised a valid point that affects a couple PCs but there hasn't been response from anyone. It would be helpful if this was resolved, thanks.

Sorry, I'd missed it, done now.

Tosh will make snares for rats and will set a load around our base, in particular our food stores.  There are bound to be rats trying to eat our food and keeping them down seems like a good idea.

Does anyone fancy rat though?  Are we that hungry?

If we don't eat rat then what can we do with the bodies?

I think that we actually have two broken radios.

In the stores there is: R-159 Manpack (Broken)

Separate to that Ortega has the following in his pack: SEM 52 S Radio (0.95kg) - crack in casting - not currently working

That second radio hasn't yet been shown to Alan but I'll sort that out IC.  It was Ortega's original radio and I think that it was damaged by a bullet in Silesia.

Ok, there are two radios. I forgot about the one on stores and was just rolling for one.

I never thought about trapping rats to prevent food spoil. I consider the containers for food spoilage... but I think I'll modify for pest control as well.

Dead rat can serve as bait. Trapping fishing without bait is one level more difficult.

Apparently I overlooked that there was some fuel in the jerry cans so I just put the amount into the Humvee, giving you some mobility again. Plus there was 20L that Ortega traded for.

So, you're good for local motorized travel... except for the BMP. That fuel tank is bone dry.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:01, Thu 18 Dec 2014.

Fuse,

Just to be clear which radio has Alan been working on already?  Ortega's spare or the manpack in the stores?

Also do you want me to specify what batteries are being used where?

Ta,

Andy

Oretaga's.

All of the batteries are in the inventory. I'll need to know what device they are being use for.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 111):

OK - the batteries we have in the stores are as follows: AAx12 Dx4 9vtx3

I'm assuming that we can replace some of the batteries in a radio or NVGs to improve the current charge and maximum charge a bit.  Is that correct?

Assuming that it is the twelve AA batteries will be issued as follows:

*** Night Vision Devices ***

Aleksandar  -                                 -
Anna        -                                 -
Babicevs    > Kalinka Pn-14K Gen2 (1AA)      2/12 - 1xAA issued
Barnett     -                                 -
Benucci     -                                 -
Cooper      -                                 -
Ferro       > Kalinka Pn-14K Gen2 (1AA)      1/12 - 1xAA issued
Fox         > AN/PVS-4 Scope Gen2 (2AA)      3/8 - 1xAA issued
Hollister   > Simrad KN200 Sight (2AA)      19/30
Kolstrup    -                                 -
Krupp       -                                 -
Lines       -                                 -
Majchrzak   -                                 -
Marshall    -                                 -
McCarthy    > AN/PVS-7 Gen3 (2AA)            6/12
Meyer       -                                 -
Morgan      -                                 -
Mulcahy     -                                 -
O'Brien     > NVS-7 Gen3 (2AA)               1/12 - 1xAA issued
Ortega      > AN/PVS-7 Gen3 (2AA)            2/14 - 1xAA issued
Wilson      -                                 -


*** Radios ***							

Aleksandar  -                                 -
Anna        -                                 -
Babicevs    -                                 -
Barnett     -                                 -
Benucci     > AN/PRC-127 (9AA)               8/14
Cooper      -                                 -
Ferro       > AN/PRC-139 (8AA)               6/12
Fox         > Cougarnet PRC6515 (PACK)       0/6
Hollister   > AN/PRC-139 (8AA)               7/14
Kolstrup    - AN/PRC-139 (8AA)               5/12 - 1xAA issued
Krupp       -                                 -
Lines       -                                 -
Majchrzak   -                                 -
Marshall    -                                 -
McCarthy    > AN/PRC-127 (9AA)               3/10 - 3xAA issued
Meyer       -                                 -
Morgan      -                                 -
Mulcahy     > Cougarnet PRC6515 (PACK)       0/6
O'Brien     > SEM-52S (PACK / 8AA)           3/10 - 3xAA issued
Ortega      > SEM-52S (PACK)                 0/0 [BROKEN]
Ortega      > SEM-52S (PACK)                14/22
Wilson      -                                 -

That uses up all of the 12 AA batteries.  Can the D and 9vt batteries be used in any of the radios that have Pack batteries?  Or are they solid state ones that need to be recharged?

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I also think that we need to consider taking AA batteries out of those flashlights that use them.

In the stores we have two "Angle-neck Flashlights" that use D batteries as well as four D batteries.  Does anyone with a flashlight that uses AA batteries want to volunteer to swap?  Those with AA battery flashlights are:

• Benucci     > Flashlight-AKM (2AA) - is this attached to the AKM though?
• Ferro       > Flashlight (2AA)
• Hollister   > Flashlight (2AA)
• Wilson      - Flashlight (AA)

Any volunteers?

Ta,

Andy.

Hey fellas,

I won't be able to get the turn up tonight as I planned, and I'll be away for the weekend, so I won't able move things on until Sunday. Sorry about that.




Pack is solid state / model specific batteries.

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 112):

Flashlight on AKM

Wilson will swap his one quite happily.

Turn is up. I think everything you wanted to do is accomplished as much as possible so we can probably get back into some trigger time.

Update on the unit personnel:

Character    Status    Morale  Blood    Notes
McCarthy     OK        High    A+       -
Ortega       OK        High    AB+      -
Hollister    OK        High    O+       -
Benucci      OK        High    O+       -
O'Brien      OK        High    O+       -
Little       Bruised   Good    A+       Blunt trauma to chest
Mulcahy      Scratched Good    O+       Lacerated hand
Ferro        OK        High    O+       -
Varis        OK        High    O+       -
Fox          Sick      Fair    O+       Abdominal pains/diarrhea
Kolstrup     OK        High    AB+      -
Wilson       OK        High    B-       -
Lines        OK        High    A-       -
Meyer        OK        Good    O+       -
Marshall     OK        High    O+       -
Morgan       OK        Good    AB+      -
Aleksandar   OK        Good    A-       -
Krupp        OK        High    A+       -
Cooper       Injured   Fair    B+       Fractured left arm (in splint) - Recovery Expected on Nov.1/Nov.15
Kaczka       OK        Good    ???      Ex-prisoner
Anna         Sick      Fair    ???      Abdominal pains/diarrhea
Majchrzak    OK        Good    ???      -

This message was last edited by the GM at 02:38, Wed 24 Dec 2014.

Time to really get ready for the next trip.

I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions about how we should proceed.

General Plan is:
1) Wiktor provides heavy lift capacity for 20% of fuel.
2) We head off along the coast and then work our way to Elbag using about seven bridges.
3) We load up and come back.

Problems include:
1) Enemy positions that block our route (one very close to Gdansk)
2) Getting the fuel for the journey
3) Pumping the fuel when we get there

I have some ideas that might make it easier to get to the fuel cache but would involve more logistics back here:
1) Talk to the IB and hand over our prisoner and INTEL. Offer them the mortar and ammo for fuel and help attacking the blocking position. We would attack with fire support and the IB taking the position so the way back would be open for us.
2) It is possible that if we travel along the coast to the Wistula Lagoon, we could use the water to bypass many of the bridges. We could travel to within 2 kilometres of the cache by water. The problem is we'd need to pump the fuel and transport the barrels. What I need is ideas on:
A) How do we pump the fuel?
B) Can we get the ILTIS on a boat or raft to get it to the cache and ferry oil drums to the boat?
C) We have one zodiac? What other boats could we look for and hat sources can we look in/at?
D) Any ideas on taking out the blocking position without the IB? I have no intel on it as yet, hopefully when Walter and I have a conversation we'll know more.
E)Any other ideas that people have.

If we get these in as soon as possible I'll cobble a plan together so we can get to shooting people and buying cool stuff with black gold.

Aargh!

For #2 I don't think we have to worry about that.

"Wiktor can have enough fuel available to cover 100km of road travel for each of your vehicles. The ethanol is not free but you won't be required to pay Tenza's supplier until you return - at the usual cost per liter."

For #3 we have a portable generator in the stores. Can that power a pump? I'm guessing manual pumps might be in demand these days but would a powered pump be hard to find?



I thought it would be easy with Wiktor but now maybe hiring a boat would be better. We took that big one during the attack on Hel. Then again how do you get into the lagoon? Is Baltiysk the only place? That's in Russian territory... that could be a problem... but then again nothing we choose is going to be without problems.

Absolutley the only place. I was thinking of something we could transport on Viktor's truck. It would need to be capable of carrying a light vehicle though because the cache is 2.6km from the shore and we might be hauling up to forty barrels.

As you say, every option will have problems, I'd just like everyone to have some fun considering the problem rather than lumbering you all with my solution.

Good idea on the pump, we'll see if there are any that haven]t been broken up for parts.

"I can get you the pump."

Merry Christmas to you all.  Sorry for my absence - Christmas preparations rather overtook everything!  I'm not back to work until 5th Jan so will catch up over the next couple of days.

Thanks,

Andy

Merry Christmas, cyberfriends!

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Likewise to you all!

I hope everyone had a safe and Merry Christmas (or whatever you may celebrate)...

It looks some options require reconnaissance.  Are we going to give ourselves those options or are we on a tighter schedule?

I hope everyone here had a good holiday. Can I get a roll call to see who's here and ready to go again?

Yes still here.

Aqui...

How did Alan go with the battery charger ? I did'nt see it mentioned in the post.

Ok it looks like only 2 players are around right now so I'll hold off things for a little while longer.

I'll review the battery charger bit and put something up for it later tonight.

In reply to Alan Little (msg # 129):

There are some outstanding issues that need resolving first... namely whether or not Alan get's his hands on some electric repair tools. The inclusion of the tools will affect the difficulty of the rolls (for both building a battery charger and fixing the radio).

- Alan has half of a set picked up here and there (recent scavenging).
- The other half of the set can be traded for at the market.
- The vendor's price for the second half is 250$ equivalent value with any item(s).

I need to know if the Mad Dogs are going to get this set and what items are they willing to part with to get it.

Second, time will have to be allocated for a search for Alan to get the parts needed to build a charger. Right now he doesn't have any parts (or tools).
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:40, Mon 29 Dec 2014.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 132):

Thanks for the update. Alan only has the packet of cigarettes he found on the island but will offer them up. I will do an IC post for the battery charger part search.

The pack of smokes to the vender selling the tools is valued at 50$.


I added in a little narrative that covered something JJM was working on. It out of place in the order of things (it happened the day before) but I wanted to let anyone else who is interested know what's going on. Basically, JJM wants to hit the eastern outpost with IB help, so you don't get shot to pieces as soon as you drive out of the city on the way to the fuel dump.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:14, Mon 29 Dec 2014.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 126):

I am here and ready to go.

For Alan's trade needs Ferro can offer a NBCW suit (used)... I still have mine from Silesia). Apart from that I suggest some things from the unit inventory... since he is trying to help the unit's needs. How about one the double barrel shotguns or one of the Uzis?

GM Edit -
the NBC suit is valued at 75$
the shotgun is valued at 200$
the Uzi is valued at at 350$ (which is far more than what the tools are worth)
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:43, Mon 29 Dec 2014.

If there are no complainants, then the cigarettes and the shotgun and we make the trade.

GM - Done
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:47, Mon 29 Dec 2014.

I added a map to JJM's last post to highlight the route and obstacles along the way.

I put up a few ideas... but I don't know how realistic they are.

Also Ferro will return the NBCW suit to the stores.
GM - done, adjust your sheet please.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:45, Mon 29 Dec 2014.

XP added for what happened in the school. It was brief, but the PC's involved will still get it.

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The pontoon raft idea is feasible.

You can build it from the materials you already have and the zodiac can act as tug.

The downsides are it'll be very slow and vs. a roll for craftsmanship - failure resulting in the raft breaking up en route or something. It also might take a couple trips with the cargo of fuel.

I'm not exactly sure what ferry you're talking about, but the pics of the ones I found seem to be either too large to fit the back of the truck... or too heavy to lift up onto the truck. So, if you don't want to drive there, I think the only other alternative is the raft across the lagoon idea.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:27, Mon 29 Dec 2014.

Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to all!!!

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Re Caleb's radio battery. Did we manage to charge it or find a replacement battery? If not then I will remove it from my kit and return it to stores. It weighs 2 kilos so I don't fancy lugging it around unless it actually works.

Also, are there any 40mm grenades hanging around spare?
This message was last edited by the player at 08:06, Wed 31 Dec 2014.

Sorry for my absence everyone.  Am catching up.

Andy.

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Alan has built a battery charger and we're charging as much electronics as possible, starting with radio's like Caleb's.


I assume that you mean 40mmS grenades.  How short is Caleb?  There are none in the stores and the only other user I believe is Varis.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:27, Tue 06 Jan 2015.

Ok, some devices had their batteries charged. Four devices can be charge per four hour period, so in the night (8 hours) following Alan's construction of the charger Ortega selected the following to be recharged...

Ortega's spare SEM-52S
Mulcahy's Cougarnet PRC6515
Fox's Cougarnet PRC6515
McCarthy's AN/PRC-127
Kolstrup's AN/PRC-139
Ferro's AN/PRC-139
O'Brien's SEM-52S
Hollister's AN/PRC-139

Note, every time a device is charged, it loses 1 point from it's base charge. For example, if you have a 2/10 for a radio and it gets fully charged, it changes to a 9/9... full charge minus a base point.

Battery info can be found in the main inventory thread.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:39, Tue 06 Jan 2015.

I'm keen on getting things moving again. It would be great if someone in the patrol could explain to me where you plan on going. Your orders are to put the Przejazdowo outpost under observation and I'd rather not play patrol commander/navigator when a PC should do it.

Here's the game map. https://www.google.com/maps/d/...73qCrNs.kEZ1sNcvVVak

Przejazdowo is a little village (marked) southeast of Gdansk and south of a refinery with the skull/crossbones icon. There's a lot of open ground, but the NODLR is designed for long range observation... it can pick out details a few KM away.

What is a NODLR exactly? I know we got it from KRupp and it is for observation but nothing else.

It stands for Night Observation Device Long Range

It's a tripod mounted Infrared device. You can pick out heat signatures up to about 4000m (depending on what they are), day or night, regardless of weather... which is far better than anything else you currently have.

It has a built in range finder and compass - giving a good bonus to FO skill checks.

It's a bit large and heavy, and makes a little bit of noise (it sounds like a low hum). It's powered, so it needs the large battery pack made for it or to be plugged into a vehicle (but it isn't practical for use while moving).

Essentially it allows you to setup an OP and observe without risking yourself by needing to get close. It's also good to have in a static defensive position.

It comes in a case (like a hard suitcase), to make transportation easy and protect it from damage.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:12, Tue 06 Jan 2015.

Thanks.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:35, Tue 06 Jan 2015.

How portable is the battery charger?

OK, please can I double check how many people we are taking and who is going on the scouting patrol:

Not Going:
Cooper
Kaczka
Majchrzak

Awaiting Medical Assessment by Dean:
Fox
Anna

Going:
McCarthy
Ortega
Hollister
Benucci
O'Brien
Little
Mulcahy
Ferro
Varis
Kolstrup
Wilson
Lines
Meyer
Marshall
Morgan
Aleksandar
Krupp

Assuming that we have those 17 people going then 7 or 8 can go in the Humvee and the Iltis.  From the IC thread that is currently:

O'Brien
Benucci
Mulcahy
Kolstrup
Ferro

Does anyone else want to go?  Ortega would like to so that leaves 1 or 2 slots, probably 1 as we'll want to put some cargo in the Iltis.  If no one else wants to go then Ortega will take Morgan.

Are the ruins of the refinery toxic? Maybe the patrol could take a small boat there, stash it, traverse the ruins, and then head through the fields (preferably at night) to a hide site overlooking the village.

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In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 149):

They are, and going through at night might be dangerous, but that plan isn't out of the question.

Tomorrow I'll post a slightly revised plan IC.

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Correct. I have 4x 40mmS HE grenades left, plus one smoke and one illum.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:41, Wed 07 Jan 2015.

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg # 152):

That's about as many as the people with 40mmN GL's have.  We'll have to try to trade for some more at some point.

Fuse - Tosh is taking the following from the stores:

AKMS-74
5.45mmB, 45rnd mag x1
5.45mmB, 30rnd mag x6
5.45mmB rounds x225

GM - Done
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:15, Thu 08 Jan 2015.

Fuse, please can we get an answer to this question?  I'm trying to figure out whether we should be bringing it with us or not.

Ta,

Andy.

I used the below example of a home made charger. It's 25kg... so it's heavy.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 156):

Thanks for the info.

Does anyone thing that we should bring this?  I don't now.

OK, what gear from the stores are we taking with us?  I suggest the following:

PTRS-41 Anti-armor Rifle
14.5mm rounds x20

M2 Carl Gustav
84mm FFV-551 HEAT Rocket x6
84mm FFV-502 HEDP Rocket x3

RPG-7 Launcher
RPG-7 HEAT Rocket x3

Heavy Demolition Charge x1
Demo charge (burn fuse) x2

Excavating Tools x2
Tracked Vehicle Tools
Axe
Hacksaw
Hand Pump for 55g drum
Garden hose (siphoning)

AN/PRC-77 Manpack
Chinese Short Range Set
IR NODLR System

Rope, 11mm/meter x25
Grapple
Prybar
Tarp/Ground Sheet
Cookware & kettle
Animal trap x2
Silver Coins (10$ Equiv) x5
Tobacco (unit) x15

Jerry can 20L (Water) x3
Rations x119 man days (based on 17 people for 7 days – will adjust if Fox or Anna is coming along)

Anyone any opinions on the above?  Either things that we shouldn’t bother taking or other things that we should add?

Ta,

Andy.

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 158):

1.5 Kilowatt generator

One thing to consider fellas, is that it's early morning. Keep that in mind for your patrol, if you're planning on it being a night OP.

I'll advance the game time to whenever you'd like, once we get a plan.

I'll have something else for those not participating in the patrol... which I believe is JJM and a couple others?

Any chance of getting some 9mm subsonic for suppressed weapons, even if it is the D.I.Y. stuff we had before?  And, will Frank's Para-Ordnance be fixed by the time we kick the mission off.

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 161):

For subsonic ammo, it depends on the Mad Dogs schedule. If you're leaving shortly, then no, but if it's not until nightfall then there's time.

No - on the sidearm. He put it in for repairs on the 14th and was told it will take three days. It's currently the 16th, so not until tomorrow some time.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:31, Thu 08 Jan 2015.

Very good, thanks Fuse!

Ortega is taking several things from the stores and issuing most of them to NPCs:

 - Steel Helmet (Pol) for Ortega

 - Meyer is being issued 3 full mags for his AK to give him 9.

 - Aleksander is being issued 3 full mags for his AK to give him 9.

 - Morgan is being issued 3 full mags for his AK to give him 9, Pack (USSR), Fatigues (Polish) x1 and Sleeping Bag (Civ).

A question regarding this.  What do we need to power?

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 145):

How heavy is the NODLR please?

Does everyone have body armour?  There is a set of Kevlar in the stores.

There isn't enough ammo to issue Morgan, Meyer, and Aleksandar all 3 full mags. Do you want to adjust?

The generator is needed to power the pump. You can't hand crank out 8000L... well, you can, but do you want to. Kaminski will provide you with the pump.

The NODLR weighs 25kg (everything included).

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 168):

Thanks, I'll add the generator and extension cables to the gear list.

With ammo for the NPCs there are currently 309 5.45mmB rounds in the stores (there were about 700 before Tosh took 225 and when I worked out the numbers above there were about 480) and 3 x 30 round mags each for the 3 of them is 270 rnds (3 x 30 x 3 = 270).  Have I missed something?

Yes, Czeslaw Kaczka (the turncoat) drew 180 rounds for the Romanian AK he was just issued.

He also took some personal gear, but I was going to mention that in a turn post.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:16, Thu 08 Jan 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 170):

That should be fine.  I was going to have Tosh do that.

After he's taken his 180 though we still have 309 left so there should be the 270 for the 9 mags being issued leaving 39 in the stores.

Or has my maths gone wrong?

Disregard what I said. I must have been thinking of other numbers or something...

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 172):

No worries.

We need 6 NBCW suits for the patrol and there are 3 in the stores.  Who still has one on their character sheet?

Fuse, does Fox still have his?

Billy still has one.

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 174):

No, he doesn't.

Thanks - that gives us 4 - we need 2 more.  Anyone else?

Current assignments (on the assumption that we can find 6 NBCW suits for the patrol):

Phase 1 assignments:

Patrol:
 - Personnel: Ortega, Kolstrup, Benucci, O'Brien, Mulcahy & Ferro
 - Gear Assigned: Zodiac, Outboard, AN/PRC-77 Manpack, IR NODLR System, NBC Gear, Chemical Sniffer (from JJM), Rations x6 man days

QRF:
Vehicle: Iltis
 - Personnel: Hollister, Wilson, Lines, Varis
 - Gear Assigned: RPG-7 Launcher, RPG-7 HEAT Rocket x3, Chinese Short Range Radio Set, Jerry can 20L (Water), Rations x40 man days, Garden hose (siphoning)

Main Body:
Vehicle: HUMVEE
 - Personnel: McCarthy, Meyer, Morgan, Krupp, Aleksandar
 - Gear Assigned: M2 Carl Gustav, 84mm FFV-551 HEAT Rocket x6, 84mm FFV-502 HEDP Rocket x3, Silver Coins (10$ Equiv) x5, Tobacco (unit) x15, Jerry can 20L (Water), Rations x40 man days

Vehicle: BMP
 - Personnel: Little, Fox, Marshall
 - Gear Assigned: PTRS-41 Anti-armor Rifle, 14.5mm rounds x20, Heavy Demolition Charge x1, Demo charge (burn fuse) x2, Tracked Vehicle Tools, Jerry can 20L (Water), Rations x40 man days

Vehicle: Truck
 - Personnel: Tenza & McKinley
 - Gear Assigned: Barrels and bridging supplies

Vehicle: Wrecker
 - Personnel: Kaminski & Szukała
 - Gear Assigned: Excavating Tools x2, Axe, Hacksaw, Hand Pump for 55g drum, Rope, 11mm/meter x25, Grapple, Prybar, Tarp/Ground Sheet, Cookware & kettle, Animal trap x2, 1.5 Kilowatt Generator,  Extension Lead 20m x2, Electronic Pump (from Kaminski), Improvised Battery Charger

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We also need to sort out a new set of Call Signs.  Based on my memory the call signs we have established so far are:

McCarthy - Sunray
Ortega - Delta
Hollister - TBC
Fox - Molar
Benucci – Iron Man
O'Brien - Crack
Little - Felix
Mulcahy - Rockstar
Ferro - TBC
Varis - TBC
Kolstrup - Viking
Wilson - TBC
Lines - TBC
Meyer - Holdfast
Marshall - TBC
Morgan - TBC
Aleksandar - TBC
Krupp - TBC

A number of people have "TBC" at present.  Please can you tell me what call sign you would prefer or any corrections to the list that are necessary.  Otherwise I'll make up something arbitrary for you.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:01, Thu 08 Jan 2015.

Callsigns are in the intel comms thread.

Not all of those guys have radios so they dont all need call signs.

Those are old and out of date.  If you look through the list there are people listed who have either now left (Oscar, Mitch, Michaels, Young, Felix & Eikki) or died (Mike & Williamson) and there are new people who aren't included (e.g. Per, Owen, Dean, Tosh, Marshall, Krupp & Alan).

It needs to be updated.

Possibly but as the BMP has a working radio and we've got the manpack and the Chinese radio almost everyone will be on the net so I thought that it was simpler to just get call signs for everyone.

This is can be updated once I get some info to fill in...

McCarthy     RADIO    "Sunray"
Ortega       RADIO    "Delta"
Hollister    RADIO    -----
Benucci      RADIO    "Iron Man"
O'Brien      RADIO    "Found Four"
Little       RADIO    "Felix"
Mulcahy      RADIO    "Rockstar"
Ferro        RADIO    "Found Ten"
Varis        -----    "Found Nine"
Fox          RADIO    "Molar"
Kolstrup     RADIO    "Viking"
Wilson       RADIO    "Starlight"
Lines        -----    -----
Meyer        -----    "Holdfast"
Marshall     -----    -----
Morgan       -----    "Found Eight"
Aleksandar   -----    -----
Krupp        -----    -----
Cooper       -----    -----
Kaczka       -----    -----
Anna         -----    -----
Majchrzak    -----    -----

Spare radios:
 AN/PRC-77 Manpack
 Chinese Tactical

Vehicle comms status:
 BMP Ambulance: R-123M Long radio radio
 Humvee: no radio
 Iltis: no radio

* The mortar (compound) has no radio

** "Found" was the call sign header for the Mad Dogs' infantry element.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:34, Fri 09 Jan 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 183):

Can I take it that Caleb's radio has been charged?

FYI I don't have an NBC suit on my char sheet.

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg # 184):

Yes - check out message #142 of this thread or the battery charge post in the stores thread.

I'm without an NBC suit as well

Working on a turn now... but I noticed something that needs adjusting. You can only fit 3 people in the Iltis (not four) with the current modifications and cargo.

Turn is up. It applies to JJM anyone who wants to participate except for the six Mad Dogs who are in the recon patrol. I'll do a separate turn* for them after.

* Are you changing your plan because of a lack of NBCW suits and avoiding the refinery?
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:29, Fri 09 Jan 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 188):

Yes.  Revised route now skirting the eastern side of the ruined refinery.

The patrol will have a 4 hour rest/battery recharging session before leaving.  Do you have the details still of what gets recharged?

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 189):

Not sure. You'll need to point them out again.

Revised assignments as there are now only 3 seats on the Iltis.

Phase 1 assignments:

Patrol:
 - Personnel: Ortega, Kolstrup, Benucci, O'Brien, Mulcahy & Ferro
 - Gear Assigned: Zodiac, Outboard, AN/PRC-77 Manpack, IR NODLR System, NBC Gear, Chemical Sniffer (from JJM), Rations x6 man days

QRF:
Vehicle: Iltis
 - Personnel: Hollister, Lines, Varis
 - Gear Assigned: RPG-7 Launcher, RPG-7 HEAT Rocket x3, Chinese Short Range Radio Set, Jerry can 20L (Water), Rations x40 man days, Garden hose (siphoning)

Main Body:
Vehicle: HUMVEE
 - Personnel: McCarthy, Meyer, Morgan, Krupp, Ibanez
 - Gear Assigned: M2 Carl Gustav, 84mm FFV-551 HEAT Rocket x6, 84mm FFV-502 HEDP Rocket x3, Silver Coins (10$ Equiv) x5, Tobacco (unit) x15, Jerry can 20L (Water), Rations x40 man days

Vehicle: BMP
 - Personnel: Little, Fox, Marshall, Wilson, Aleksander
 - Gear Assigned: PTRS-41 Anti-armor Rifle, 14.5mm rounds x20, Heavy Demolition Charge x1, Demo charge (burn fuse) x2, Tracked Vehicle Tools, Jerry can 20L (Water), Rations x40 man days

Vehicle: Truck
 - Personnel: Tenza & McKinley
 - Gear Assigned: Barrels and bridging supplies

Vehicle: Wrecker
 - Personnel: Kaminski & Szukała
 - Gear Assigned: Excavating Tools x2, Axe, Hacksaw, Hand Pump for 55g drum, Rope, 11mm/meter x25, Grapple, Prybar, Tarp/Ground Sheet, Cookware & kettle, Animal trap x2, 1.5 Kilowatt Generator,  Extension Lead 20m x2, Electronic Pump (from Kaminski), Improvised Battery Charger

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 190):

While the recon patrol rest up they're recharging the manpack radio and Ferro, Billy and Ortega's NVGs.  Is that ok?

One question regarding the patrol - what's our exit or link up plan/strategy?

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 192):

Yes, who is carrying the manpack radio? And who is carrying the NODLR?
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:55, Fri 09 Jan 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 194):

Ferro will carry the NODLR. I'll leave the shotgun and other heavy stuff in the Humvee for later.

Frank might have to because he's only got [3] mags for his MP5SD and [2] for the borrowed M-9.  He might be the likely choice.  His AKM and ammo will be going with the rest of the recon teams gear.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 194):

Billy was going to keep Ferro company while the rest of the patrol got closer. If the manpack radio only needs to go that far he can carry it. He also has a Browning HP and silencer that he will past off to anyone going forward.

He also has 52 9mmN which I assume is subsonic, at least that is what I played it was.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:47, Fri 09 Jan 2015.

Patrol...

I've plotted your current position, two tentative OP locations, where the zodiac is hidden, and the objective.

If you can't find it on the map, scroll down the items in the list on the left until you see "patrol" near the bottom. It'll center the map onto it and then you can zoom in.

OP team will need to choose a spot to setup. I've given two options but you aren't limited to them. It will take about ten minutes to set up the NODLR.

The Mobile team will need to get closer to see anything. Please choose a route and where you'd like to approach to (I'm unsure how close you want to get or how you want to do this).

Remember, this is essentially the front lines. This (and the two other outposts) are the closest the enemy are to Gdansk. It's not an administrative encampment or a rear area garrison. On the other hand, this outpost has never been attacked before, so it's possible that they may have become complacent from routine boredom.

Map > https://www.google.com/maps/d/...73qCrNs.kEZ1sNcvVVak
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:56, Fri 09 Jan 2015.

Ferro has a silenced Makarov if anyone wants to borrow it.

On the map straight across a little to the right of the chemical tanks there are four larger ones. They seem taller and there is stuff on the top to hide behind. Are any of the four intact?

In reply to Ferro (msg # 199):

Two of them are intact and they are taller than the other tanks with structures that provide cover/concealment. If you're going to take chemical tanks over the inside of a building, the these larger tanks would be better.

My radio is the Cougarnet PRC6515 [2kg]. Is that the man pack, or are we talking about another man pack radio?

Ferro - I have a Makarov so will take your silencer if still available.

Also I assume that I don't have my rucksack but have an NBC suit and some food in my webbing pouches.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:11, Sat 10 Jan 2015.

Different radio. There's a AN/PRC-77 set with a longer range - carried by O'Brien.

If you're bringing your NBCW gear, you'll probably need a ruck, but we can assumed (from Luis' posts) that any present rucks have been thinned out of other gear (which will be waiting in the vehicles) so they're won't be any restrictions.

If it were just the NBCW body suit, then you could strap/tie it to the outside of your webbing or something, but if it's the complete set, then you're also looking at rubber overboots and gloves - so it would need something like a pack.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:08, Sat 10 Jan 2015.

Is the recon team going with body armor?

Ok if we are going with cool names then I would like to change to Valkyrie... and ignore that it isn't Italian or something.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:31, Sat 10 Jan 2015.

Not sure if Fuse will allow this to be changed but that wasn't Ortega's intention.  Everyone should be bring full fighting gear.  What goes on the truck is other gear in backpacks.  Things like Ortega's shotgun, sleeping bags, climbing gear.  Stuff like that.

Hope that makes more sense now.  I've corrected this IC.


We're securing our immediate location first to ensure the safety of the NODLR team.  I'll map out a route for you though.

What time of day is it now and what time can we expect it to get dark?


Noted.


We've brought all 4 NBCW suits (3 in the stores and 1 from Billy) and Ortega will have a rucksack for certain with some (or all) of them in.

JJM mentioned lending the patrol team a chemical sniffer.  We'll will have been using that from the moment we landed and will then make a decision on whether we need to use the NBCW suits based on the readings.  Does that make sense?


Yes.  And helmets.

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 205):

No, makes sense.

Turn is up for the patrol.

Once I know how long the maneuver group is going to remain in place at the chemical tanks, I'll make some rolls and describe what the NODLR team has observed during that time. Sunset can be expected at 17:45hrs and first light tomorrow around 0715hrs.

I'm not sure yet if I'm going to plot the patrol/attack on the game map or use my own. The landscape is quite different than what the game map shows - namely far less trees and some razed buildings. I can't update all those changes on the game map as it would be way too cluttered.

The game map is updated but here is a secondary map showing some changes to the landscape.


This message was last edited by the GM at 04:44, Tue 13 Jan 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 208):

Thanks for this.  Please can I double check what you mean by "razed structures"?  Are these ruined building that have collapsed leaving sufficient rubble for a man to crouch behind or does it look like someone has deliberately cleared them to open up fields of fire, leaving little more than rubble a man could lie behind?

Burned to the ground mostly. There isn't much to crouch behind and are difficult to move through. Some have remains that might offer concealment, but not sufficient cover, and a few others are just basement foundations.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 210):

Thanks.  We're going to wait until dark before setting out with the foot patrol.

Ortega is observing the various routes towards village to try to work out the best one.  One immediate question though - how deep are the irrigation ditches?

Knee to hip level or so.

I will be able to post tomorrow

I'll just make this up but if you want to swap that's fine.

Wiktor's rig: JJM / Wiktor

Iltis: Krupp / Little / Lines

Humvee: Wilson / Varis / Hollister / Auttenberg

BMP Ambulance: Marshall / Aleksandar / Meyer

Kaminski's Wrecker: Wilusz (One of Kaminski's guys)

So people don't need to read huge wodges of text:

1) We're backing up
2) BMP ambulance finds a spot to get off road and waist for us to pass
3) BMP ambulance gets in front of convoy
4) Iltis keeps position in convoy
5) When we have room to manoeuvre the Hum-Vee takes the rear
6) Anyone not manning a gun or driving gets out and gets ready to back JJ up in case of an attack

Reminder, I still need a route or coarse of action for the patrol if they want to proceed further.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 216):

I'll sort one out but it might be tomorrow night.  Any chance you can update the map above with the positions we've noted?  Ortega is sketching it all.

What seat does Tosh have?

My guess is that Krupp is driving, Little is commanding and Tosh is in the gunner's seat.

Make sense?

Ok here is an update to the map. I've added in grid references to help point things out.

This one here is the same, but it just includes the route taken by the dusk clearance patrol > http://oi61.tinypic.com/204cjn.jpg


This message had punctuation tweaked by the GM at 01:41, Fri 16 Jan 2015.

I believe we were able to secure some 40MMN reloads from the market ? I was wondering how many and if they have been dolled out yet ? Thanks.

Check out posts 36 and 38 of this thread.  Six 40mmN HE (Reloads) were traded for and I believe that they were all for Billy.  Ortega certainly didn't need any and I don't believe that JJM wanted any either.

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In reply to Fusilier (msg # 219):

Thanks for this.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:26, Fri 16 Jan 2015.

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 221):

Thanks much appreciated.

Fuse,

Ortega has started a discussion IC about whether to do the foot patrol or not (I'm personally not sure that it's a good idea because of the risk of alerting the enemy that someone has been around).

I've worked out the planned patrol route though, just in case we decide to go for it.  The primary patrol route is shown by the green arrows and the objective is to check out the ruins along the road.  If there is time (or the first patrol route is obviously a bad idea) then the second patrol route is shown in orange.  The objective of this is to check out the road heading east and the return route is off the eastern side of the map.



If the foot patrol is taking place then we need to work out what time to leave.  That's partly dependent on how light it is at night.  Is there much cloud cover?

Ta,

Andy.

I like the secondary route more. It looks like the main defenses are facing the city (i.e. north, northwest) and they're not so concerned about traffic from the east. Therefore, I think their sentries on the east side will be less vigilant/numerous and the patrol could probably get in closer.

-

In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 224):

Good point - I've edited my IC post to include the map so that we can discuss options.

I would say that if you aren't going to get closer than that you might not as well go and take the risk. You won't see anything at 400-1000m away, which is the closest those routes take you (remember you are already more than 1500m away now).

Secondly, there is more than just one platoon out there as it is a company position - I've only marked what you know. You've already located the north defenses, so Green route has the potential to only gain more info on that particular position. That's not a bad thing, as right now the details are limited, but I just want to point out that it won't locate any other positions. Orange route might, but as I mentioned in the first point it's (currently) too far.

Hope this helps some.

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Also, minor point, there is a canal you have to cross first. It's not a serious obstacle, but it's no ditch either. You'll get wet.
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:44, Sat 17 Jan 2015.

The civilians in the houses are at G14 and H14.

I'm really not sure now.  My logic of the two patrols objectives was as follows:

Green Route: The ruins would make a good place to set up an ambush of the enemy patrol (assuming that they repeated their checking of the ruins) and my thought was that we could catch some of the enemy in the open and give them a problem to deal with.  We don't actually need to recce it however to set this up and could just occupy it overnight.

Orange Route: This would help us understand more about where we're going immediately after engaging the enemy strongpoint and might well reveal some defensive positions on the eastern side of the village.  This isn't vital however.


Finding a good place to cross will be the first objective.

Re: canal - you can wade it. I just wanted to mention it so people are aware.

If you hit a clearance patrol, you've nicked just one squad, but alerted the entire position. That doesn't seem like a equal tradeoff.

It was my understanding that the patrol was to gain information on the outpost. I would think that means like finding out where and what kind of defenses there are, locating heavy weapons and command positions, and detecting obstacles and minefields. You have to get close for that. If this wasn't the purpose of the patrol, then you're attack is going in blind.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 229):

OK, those are some very good points.  Thanks.

I'll re think the patrol route and come back to you.  Anyone got any suggestions on where we go?  The eastern side of the village sounds like a good option to me.

I've shut down what was happening with the convoy as there didn't seem to be much interest. I know only of Hollister's player being away, yet we haven't heard from some PCs in days or weeks. If you wish to continue gaming, there really needs to be some sort of regular commitment as it's affecting active players and myself/the game. I don't like bringing this up, or getting after people, but at this point I think it needs to be mentioned.

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Using the tactical visibility rules, the background light level value is 2. There is no cloud cover, but not much moonlight either. That means you can get to within 200m of the enemy before you are seen - but that's when moving about in open ground. If you take account any concealment and are moving stealthily, then that distance is justly going to drop and modifications be made to difficulty levels for rolls against you.

As long as you don't march up to the front gates I don't think you have too much to worry about dice rolls. Just be smart about it.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:26, Sat 17 Jan 2015.

Thanks for the info.


I may have missed something but are we certain that these are civilians?  I thought it was just cooking fires and could therefore be the troops stationed there feeding themselves.

I'll answer that.

Ferro observed unarmed people dressed in what appears to be civilian clothing around a few of the houses. Also remember there were civilians working on the wire fence earlier in the day.

The cooking fires is  something different (not that area) though it may be connected.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 233):

Ah ok, thanks for clarifying.

I was wondering if we could get a model number or better description for the following:

Heavy Demolition Charge
Demo charge (burn fuse)

I was assuming the first was a satchel charge and the second was dynamite ? Thanks.

There's no model numbers, as they are both improvised postwar charges.

The smaller demo charge is essentially dynamite, wrapped in an extra layer of wax paper to keep it water resistant. It's comes in a cloth bag with a strap - which is a reused carrier for a SAW ammo box. There's a fifteen second (maybe) fuse. It's enough to breach entries into buildings but you can't be sure how much more do to its nature.

The heavy charge is heavy. It would help if two people carried and set it up. It comes in a wooden chest with rope handles on the sides. Inside is a mix of commercial dynamite, cardboard packaged explosive compound (sourced from uxo?), and a small amount of Semtex. It's armed and set with an old fashioned clock timer - up to an hour. There's enough explosives to mess up a large building like an apartment complex. Think small car bomb.

Does this help?
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:46, Sun 18 Jan 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 236):

Thanks, much more clear.

Zoomed in view displaying newly discovered details. The yellow buildings are known/suspected to house civilians and some livestock. Note that all this only shows what you know or can see, and may not be complete.

Rolls were made on stealth, observation, and tracking.


This message was last edited by the GM at 19:40, Mon 19 Jan 2015.

I should be able to post this evening or tomorrow morning

Sorry for the delay in posting - is it clear what Ortega intends the patrol to do?

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 240):

Yes, but just to be clear, swinging south and investing that position means you'll be approaching them head on.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 241):

Hum, maybe a bit further south than that.

Marshall - I think that you've missed this little bit of tobacco that Ortega got for you - please see the highlighted section above.

Updated with new info learned this turn.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 244):

Thanks for this.

Do you have a map with all the info we've spotted on it by any chance?

Is there any way to cross the river from the refinery besides going back out and taking the road?

In reply to Luis Ortega (msg # 245):

That shows it all.
Nothing happens in another ten minutes.

In reply to Walter Krupp (msg # 246):

I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:14, Sat 24 Jan 2015.

The vehicles are parked at the refinery right? There is a river boarder the refinery right? This prevents exit from the refinery except by established roads....unless there is a way to cross that water barrier.

In reply to Walter Krupp (msg # 248):

No, the vehicles are at the compound.

Map showing the routes of the various groups visible to the Mad Dogs right now.

@Patrol guys - if you recall I mentioned there is a canal that needed to be crossed. I forgot to mention you found a foot bridge on the way to the objective and crossed there.


This message was last edited by the GM at 08:42, Sun 25 Jan 2015.

Fuse,

Thanks for the map.  Please can I double check something.  Billy and Ferro are on top of a chemical tower and that is several stories high and you have to climb up an external ladder to reach the top.  Is that correct?

My assumption is that if they lie flat on top they can't be observed (unless someone climbs a different tower) and can't be reached unless someone climbs up the ladder (which they should be able to hear).

I just want to check that my understanding is correct.

Ta,

Andy.

Yes.

Turn up tomorrow.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:28, Mon 26 Jan 2015.

Expecting bad snow storm in the Northeast (NJ) and maybe unable to post due to me being at work.  Please NPC me as needed.

John

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 253):

No problem. We get whatever you NJ fellas get a day or two later, so that may apply to me as well tomorrow.

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Turn is up. A couple points...

1) Cold weather rules are in place. Some PCs lack cold weather gear so you may want to think about getting some. Other PCs have it, but it's listed in their packs. Those need be moved to worn items and the added weight taken into account for it to be in use.

2) Reminder about battery charges. The list is updated. As it stands, you really only have enough batteries/charge for one full night OP. That may be something to keep in mind for planning OPs with lengthy time frames.

3) Don't neglect fatigue rules. Not a serious issue right now, but just a reminder.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:32, Mon 26 Jan 2015.

I've been sitting on a huge amount of xp for a long time now and want to make use of it. Where can I be most useful? I thought about forward observer but don't want to if it is redundant. Is JJM the only one with that skill (and who is good at it)?

If no-one else has FO skill, it would be good for Ferro to get it. Then I'll pump points into Grenade Launcher and stay back with the mortar. It will give us a good capability that we don't have now as JJ can stay back and co-ordinate and Ferro can be with the scout group.

Some time tonight or tomorrow I'll put together a little database showing where the group has specialists and such for various skills.

That would be brilliant, thank you.

Billy has the FO skill to an O.k. level.

I plan on making a more detailed list some time later, but this covers most of the high use skills. If you see a skill not listed and would like it included, just let me know. The ratings are for assets (skill plus attribute) and only covers those who are about 9-10 or higher... except in cases where the listed PCs are below average but the only/few party members with that certain skill.


Heavy Machinegun: Billy Kolstrup McCarthy Ortega

Heavy Gun^[1]: McCarthy Meyer Kaczka Krupp

Grenade Launcher^[2]: Ortega Varis Billy Meyer Frank Caleb Kolstrup

Driver (Wheel): Ferro Wilson Hollister Krupp

Driver (Track): Marshall Krupp

Stealth: Frank Hollister Caleb

Forward Observer: McCarthy

Medic: Wilson

Mechanic: Marshall

Combat Engineer: Billy Meyer Caleb



^[1] Needed for ZPU-2 AA Gun
^[2] Needed for 81mm Mortar
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:39, Tue 27 Jan 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 254):

I made it out of work today OK but, brunt of the storm (12-24 inches in my area and out by the prison I work at) is supposed to hit about 0400 EST so I need to be on the road by then to get to work by 0600, work a double shift and maybe make it out tomorrow night to return Wednesday morning.  And I hear more snow for Thursday.

Fuse - Sorry for my absence - work has been rather manic and I need to catch up.  I'll try to get that done in the next couple of days.

Sorry about this.

Andy.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 260):

You can add Disguise and Persuasion to that list for me, Caleb has a high CHA score.

I just finished a summary of the entire enemy position only to have my browser crash and take the last hour of my time with it. I'm feeling pretty dejected at the moment but I might try again tomorrow.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:18, Fri 30 Jan 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 264):

Arrrgh! Don't you just hate that!

What's worse is that I keep my PC running pretty clean. Things don't crash on their own often at all.

I gave it another shot. Let me know if you need more info on something. Apart from that heavy weapon system it shouldn't be as hard as it might seem. That gun might cause problems though.

As a friendly warning I'm skipping the next turn right to getting into attack position.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:27, Fri 30 Jan 2015.

I am going to dump most of my XP into Forward Observer and if any left over to increase Ferro's medic a little.

Thermal Underwear {set} [.50 kg]
Wool Sweater [.50 kg]
Sleeping Bag [0.0 kg]
[1] pr. Gore-Tex Oversocks [.10 kg]

I have the following above items.  Does Frank need any more than this?

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 268):

As long as he stays dry, Frank is fine down to -9 Celsius while wearing both the thermal underwear and sweater. The current temperature is 4 Celsius and has yet to drop below freezing so he'll be fine so long as he remains dry.

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Here's a summary of cold weather rules:

A PC can tolerate temperatures down to 10 Celsius while wearing standard fatigues before any negative effects occur. At temperatures below that heavier clothing is required. These figures assume the PC's clothing is not wet.

-A basic sweater is good down to 1 Celsius.
-Thermal underwear is good down to 2 Celsius.
-Thermal fatigues are good down to -4 Celsius.
-Parkas are good down to -10 Celsius.
-Other types of jackets/coats will vary but are generally good to -6 Celsius.
-Winter Combat Uniform (including boots) are good down to -12 Celsius.
-Light gloves are good down to -6 Celsius.

-Sleeping bags vary but are generally good (on their own) down to -10 Celsius. Most heat loss will come from conduction against the ground, so an air mattress or some other sort of insulator will improve the sleeping bag's rating.

-Gore-Tex Oversocks will keep the feet dry.

Items may be combined.

For each four hour period, PCs suffer one point of fatigue for each 6 degrees that they are under dressed for. This is in addition to fatigue that is gained from activity. If the fatigue continues to build up eventually the PC will be incapacitated/fall unconscious until recovery or death. Frostbite is a separate matter.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:21, Fri 30 Jan 2015.

If anyone is wondering here are the effects of fatigue:

- For each accumulated level of fatigue all attributes are reduced by 1 - and thus the skill assets are affected too. If an attribute reaches 0 the PC is incapacitated/unconscious.

- When shooting, accuracy is modified by adding 3 to dice rolls at short range, 2 at medium, and 1 at long/extreme.

- Load is reduced by 10% per level of fatigue, as is throw range.

Just remember, staying dry in Poland in early winter when we're travelling in open vehicles over several rivers finished by many kilometres of lagoon crossing and then coming back over the same route is bound to be easy. My research into the WW2 German playbook for attacking in Eastern Europe says that winter gear is unnecessary. Given that, Krupp and Meyer may well be willing to give up their winter gear.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 269):

I also found this, [1] Gore-Tex Anorack [.50 kg]

I guess I could use some kind of coat and I have a pair of nomex gloves

So Kamineski needs to be looking out for straw billets too if he can find them.

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 272):

What is that, a type of water proof shell? Like a wind breaker?

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 271):

LOL

Inspired by anoraks that protected the intrepid 10th Mountain Division soldiers in the 1940s, this pullover is equally rugged and ready. Though the anorak style itself is noted for its ability to buffet wind and weather, we've upped the ante with a high-performance three-layer shell and a number of unique features. Our TEK3 shell features a waterproof, windproof exterior plus breathable membrane and interior backer of soft yet durable tricot for next-to-skin comfort. Features you'll appreciate when a front comes through include a hood that adjusts in a single pull, providing complete protection without hindering your vision. Zip the offset expanding throat gusset to protect your chin and neck from the elements, and unzip for easy venting – and a dash of color. Anoraks can be a challenge to put on and take off, but a side zipper that extends from hem to underarm solves this neatly. A partial zipper on the opposite side adds more ease. Unique pocket is designed with three openings, a kangaroo plus two hand pockets, for roomy storage and hand warming. Imported. Machine wash and dry.

I don't think it's heavy duty, perhaps like a three-season jacket...
This message was last edited by the player at 20:41, Fri 30 Jan 2015.

Ok, thanks for pointing that out. I skimmed over everyone's inventory, but I didn't see that (or know what it was). I also only really looked at what is currently worn and not in people's packs.

I think Frank is fine for gear.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:48, Fri 30 Jan 2015.

OK, good.  I'll put that in a note for my gear and I had to go back and look for it because I knew I had something else and couldn't find it.  It was tucked into my buttpack contents.

I am set for cold weather clothing but I don't have anything against getting wet.

PARA Smock-Arctic Insert
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Poncho, DPM

Should hopefully be ok.

SAS Smock-Cold Weather Insert
Rain Poncho (Civ Black)
Wool Hat (Black)

Alan should be ok as well.

Bootlace has that large gun waiting to wreck our rides. That's what I don't like about it.

What about coming down the road from the hamlet and going in at Top Hat instead? We can then come in behind Bootlace.

I was thinking of trying to go in that way as quietly as possible so as we could take the position without them being able to use their big guns against us.

Oh you mean infiltrate and blow up or capture the big gun before the attack begins? That might be a good idea.

It looks like both of my PCs have lost their packs. Neither have cold weather gear, at present. I don't think Per's Viking blood or Varis' persistent VD are going to keep them warm.

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That was what I was thinking.  even if we can get in and occupy them so they can't use their heavy stuff on our vehicles.

I have thermal fatigues and a parka. Should I wear both, or just the fatigues and then lend my parka to someone else?

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg # 286):

You don't need to wear both.
Thermal fatigues are good down to -4 Celsius and Parkas are good down to -10 Celsius.

The current temp is 4 (plus) Celsius and unlikely to go below freezing in the immediate future.

The SVD we have in stores, is the scope messed up on it?

Per calls dibs on the Polish parka (his current fatigues are Polish pantera pattern). Varis calls dibs on the Soviet thermal fatigues (all the better should he ever be called upon to play a Red Army soldier).

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I'm happy with just being issued something when the time is right

IF* it's decided to execute Per's addendum to the plan (i.e. sniper team/s sneak to within range of the ville to take out the HMG prior to the mech attack), then I think it would be worth spending a chunk of his XP on the FO skill.

*I'd like to spend 10XP to put his FO skill at 4.

Based on JJM's latest post about training, I'd like to spend 2XP to bump Per's Instruction skill to 2.

I'd like to spend 2XP to bump his Navigation skill to 2 as well.

That's all of it so let me know if I'm being wasteful.

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In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 288):

There was one that was messed up, but I believe it's been repaired or this is another SVD. Either way, I didn't marked the one in stores as deficient so I'll honor it as is, and say it's good.

Fox and Hollister also have sniper rifles - free to trade.



In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 289):

Thank you.

I don't want to be greedy and selfish, so if someone else would like to claim them, I'll defer, but I'd like to speak for both pairs of light gloves as well.

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I don't know if now is a good time to start using it but, just a thought.  Something simple might be easiest.