Carry on here, please.

I'm leaning toward towing/pushing the T-55 into position and deploying the bridge with the apparatus meant to do so.

What do others think?

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 2):

Sounds reasonable to me.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 2):

I think that was the best out of the possible options.

What do we have that's capable of towing a MT-55?

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No single vehicle. You'll need the rig, Krok, and wrecker.
This message was last updated by the GM at 03:47, Fri 18 Sept 2015.

We're going o need good drivers to aid Tenza, Ferro obviously springs to mind, who else has a decent WVD asset?

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 7):

5/12 here. And ic familiarity with the BTR.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:58, Sat 19 Sept 2015.

Kaminski's guy will drive the wrecker and Tenza the rig, so you just need someone for the Krok.

Sorry Fuse, meant to ask, is there a limit as to how much of this stuff we can take?

No, not really, but maybe you can limit it to what two people might be able to carry (on them and in a big bucket).

I'll post after Corkman has a chance to.

Ditto...

OK, how about we leave the skillet and the half set of tools and take the rest?

(Am thinking one of them can sling the rifle over their shoulder and they can wheel the bike, maybe with the bucket hanging from the handlebars? If the rifle has no sling we can probably leave it as it's damaged).

Anyone else have any thoughts on the matter?

I'll be posting today.  Had an awesome 1E D&D home game yesterday and I'm catching up after a 13 hour session this morning with the rest of the world...

Just to be clear, plan is for Kessler and Lines to link up with O'Brien then all three of them head for the house at N3 on Msg 961 of the last ooc thread. We'll work out the next moves from there.

What are Kessler, Lines, and O'Brien doing with their packs? Lugging them or leaving them behind?
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:15, Mon 21 Sept 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 17):

Billy would have left his pack at the vehicles, but given I did not post that it would probably be with the zodiac.

Ok, thanks for the feedback.

Reason I'm asking is that 1) looters can only carry so much and 2) there's a small penalty for wearing one... like with running and getting into combat etc.

Ferro has her pack in the OP house. She isn't wearing it but it's there. She was informed she might be at the OP for a long time so she brought it along.

Kessler's main pack will be aboard the BTR. I didn't reference it in any posts because I never thought anyone would be taking their main pack across the river with them - I presumed SOP would be those stayed with the vehicles unless specifically stated otherwise. I know that Frank referenced taking food, water, etc but Kessler has those in his butt pack, which is on his person (and has been any time he's wearing his assault vest) - if there was a reference to taking main packs as part of that post I must have missed it (and Kessler would have disregarded it). The only things he has taken that are extra are his spotting scope (which he has left at the OP) and the RPK.

(I did consider having him telling Lines to stay at the OP to maintain its securty, but decided leaving one man on his own wasn't sound tactics).

Sorry, I meant to ask earlier, does Benucci have a clear shot at either of the observers with his M40?

As long as he's at the back doorway observing them. He can see the back of their heads mostly, sometimes just one though.

OK, anyone have any thoughts on best way to clear the unknown OP?

I'm thinking two options (one of which has two variations).

1. Frank uses the M40 to blow at least their heads off. Preferably both of them but we'll settle for one. If we do only get one we yell at the other one to surrender - if they don't we turn the house into swiss cheese.

2. We try and get closer and storm the house,

2A Kessler, Lines, and O'Brien bound to House A and then on to House B. Once they're in position they cover the house whilst Ferro and Benucci storm it, using their supressed MP5's and CS grenades.

2B Kessler, Lines, and O'Brien bound to House A and then on to House B. They then assault the OP whilst Benucci and Ferro cover them.

3. Any other suggestions?

If we want to try and get prisoners I'd favour 2A.

If we want to clear them at minimal risk to ourselves I'd favour 1.

Any thoughts?

If you want swift, #1 would be my vote and having to deal with only one of them watching (hopefully) the other one dead might help getting a prisoner.

If you want the better shot at prisoners, 2A.

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 25):

Yeah....that was what I was thinking as well.

Prisoners are a nice to have not a need to have so Kessler wont order Frank and Ferro to go for option 2A, especially as he's not on scene.

What I'd suggest is he tells Frank that they (Frank and Ferro) are the ones with eyes on so it's their call - if they think that storming the house is practical the others will support them, but if they feel the best tactical solution is to go for option 1 they're clear to take the shot - basically he trusts them to use their best judgement to make the call (so in other words what Corkman and Jinny want their pc's to do).

I'm not trying to pass the buck ic or ooc - if we end up wasting two fourteen year olds Kessler will take full ownership - so if you prefer Kessler to make the call I'll have him give the order to take option 1 tomorrow (I'm about to crash for the night).

I'm hesitant about initiating with force since we don't know who they are. 2A would be my first choice... then 2B. Option one last.

IC Ferro will go with whatever is decided though.

OK, I wont be able to get an ic post up until I get home from work, so around seven to eight hours from now, but unless anyone has any objections beforehand this is what I'll go with

Kessler, O'Brien, and Lines will advance in leaps and bounds. We'll head for House A initially, leave Tosh there and Kessler and O'Brien will leap to House B so we will have multiple firing positions.

Once they're in position (and assuming that goes according to plan) Kessler will radio Frank / Ferro advising them they're free to go for option 1 or option 2A based on their judgement of the situation (@Corkman, Jinny, if you're both good with option 2A that's absolutely OK with me - we'll back you up from the houses)

Ok, turn is up. Sorry about the delay, I've been sick, but trying to force myself to still get to work and school, which has left me a wreck.

I meant to allow the PCs to play out how they would deal with the unidentified party, but I handled it in one big turn post to get things moving again. If I stayed the course those PCs at the bridge would have gone another turn with nothing much to go on. The problem is one group is conducting one single task that takes a long time to accomplish and the other needs many smaller ones over a short time... so it's hard to use a time frame that accommodates both. Hopefully what's to come will put everyone on the same track*.

* the NPCs can handle the bridge stuff.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 21):

I misunderstood. In that case Ferro will have left her pack with the Humvee if it's not too late.

All active PCs on my side of the bridge are free to come along, post as you want.

The exception I Reidel who is driving but if you want to come along too get Aleksander to drive.

I've left Riedel where she is as she's not really the type that would go acting on her own initiative without a specific order (it's that East German upbringing!)

Just to give some visual perspective, this is the view McCarthy & Co have looking in the direction of West Kepki (where Ortega's guys are). Note the stretch of open ground separating the two communities. You are hard pressed to see the other Mad Dogs, especially if they are in the middle of a firefight, and likely using cover to stay alive. You can just make out the Stobna road on the top right, which leads into West Kepki and then turns off and follows the river to East Kepki (bridge).

Please consult the map for the location of you, your teammates, enemy units, and other things that are going to be very important over the next turns.


This message was last edited by the GM at 07:53, Sun 27 Sept 2015.

@Corkman, Cymon, Jinny if McCarthy gives a sit rep on what's going on do you want to stay on this side of the river or cross back over and  rejoin the others?

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 34):

I will vote to rejoin.

Let the trimming of NPCs and abandoned PCs begin...



In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 34):

I am wondering if it is a good idea to give up our foothold on the other side of the river.

Sorry, my last post was a phone post hence the relative brevity

I'm also making a few assumptions

1. As noted, that we're brought up to speed with what McCarthy knows about the situation on the other side

2. We're not ordered back by McCarthy. If we are the rest of this post is a moot point

3. The approaching vehicle is nothing to do with the partisans so will turn out to be hostile

Whilst it gives us one strong(er) force rather than two weak(er) forces if we cross back I'm happy to stay where we are.

To my mind if we cross back over we run the risk of the approaching force being able to establish themselves on this side. They will know that we are here (I would imagine the firefight will give away the fact that the Mad Dogs are in the area) so they will be able to

A. Call in reinforcements
B. Establish defendable positions, making a future crossing much more difficult (as Jinny has referenced)
C. Get involved in the firefight on the other bank (which could be potentially catastrophic if they have something like a mortar)

If we stay we can possibly prevent at least some of the above. If we can "recruit" the two Polish partisans we can attempt to observe / ambush the approaching vehicle. Hopefully we would have the advantage of surprise.

Also, if we hold both banks we can continue to work on the bridge. Clearly this will be challenging whilst there is at least one firefight going on, however, if we can complete even some sort of crossing that would then give McCarthy's group the option to make a tactical withdrawal to our side if necessary, after which we can drop the bridge again and prevent pursuit (I know much of that is not a great option, but it is an option - if we lose the bridgehead on this side we could end up pinned against the river with hostile forces on both banks).

Therefore I'm voting to stay.

Jinny, am I understanding that your view is similar to mine?

EDIT
If we do stay I'm in two minds about whether O'Brien and Lines should stay in situ at the other OP (and keep watch in that direction) or rejoin Kessler, Ferro, and Benucci (I'm trying to avoid splitting the force, but am conscious of the need to keep watching other directions and also the amount of to'ing and fro'ing that will entail, so if we stay I'd welcome opinions)
This message was last edited by the player at 07:59, Sun 27 Sept 2015.

I agree, unless they need us or we're bugging out, I think we stay

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 38):

OK, I'm taking it that the majority view ooc (plus McCarthy's orders ic) was to stay so orders are issued accordingly.

@Cymon, if you still want O'Brien to rejoin the main body he can take the zodiac back to the other side - that way it will be there if they need to bug out across the river before the bridge repairs are complete.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 39):

I am happy to go with what everyone else wants. He can probably make good use of the mine the partisans have and he has a claymore if he was able to get onto the other side at some point during the evac.

Yeah it was.

We may need the two former prisoners if the Major has to bug out since the majoirty of our gear is with them!

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 42):

Yeah, Kessler is trying to keep them onside in case we end up having to ask them to take us in but I didn't feel like he could "order" them to stay and fight so he gave them the option of leaving if they want. Hopefully they'll stay - the extra manpower will be handy for the firefight.

Agreed and we may just need a place to stay soon too...

Hey guys,

I tried, but I won't be able to add in the last part (for Ferro/Frank) until tomorrow some time (not sure when). I also won't be able to update the map until then either.

Just as a heads up, to help you plan things out ahead of time...

This pic might help reveal the layout better. Remember, you are in the 2nd house left of the T-junction on the right side of the pic. See the vehicle on the north road at the right side of the pic, that's a PTSM loaded with Russians. That's about where you see it, at least a little of it, through the trees.

The house with the orange roof is where the partisans had their OP. The roof is gone now.

Billy and Lines are way over on the left at the bridge.


This message was last edited by the GM at 07:05, Wed 30 Sept 2015.

When you say "loaded", Paul Mulcahy's website states that a PTSM can take up to 70 troops...

I don't expect a specific number, but can you give us a ballpark figure as to how many we think we can see?

There are lots of heads sticking up over the sides, maybe a platoon.

Cheers (on bahalf of Michael)

Did Fischer stay with Riedel? (I don't see him listed in the names for Active West)

Yeah, I don't believe Spartan is ready to return, so I kept him out of the action... though it's where he is needed to help Marshall.

OK, here’s what I’m thinking for the PTS but it’s all a bit back of an envelope stuff.

Hold fire and let it move to within frag grenade range at which point Frank tries to take out the driver with an aimed shot from the M40, hopefully immobilising it. Meanwhile Ferro and Kessler try and catch the troops in the rear with frags to try and take advantage of the effects of the frags in the confined space (that assumes that Ferro has a frag grenade with her). Ferro and Kessler then spray the rear on full auto with MP5 / RPK respectively.

If the troops look like they are going to debus before they get into grenade range we skip that step and just go for Frank taking the shot and Ferro / Kessler opening up on them before they disembark the vehicle.

What I'm hoping for is to catch as many of them in as confined a space as possible.

If we can take the PTS in even semi working condition it would probably come in handy if we have to evacuate the other side before the bridge repairs are done.

As I said though, it’s all back of an envelope stuff, so if anyone else has any thoughts just shout.

I'm starting to get more time, but not quite enough to read back through myriad previous posts.  My intent is to jump back in at the next chapter change, so to speak.  Hopefully that won't be too late :(

A shot at the driver will help IF we can take him out.  Hoping for the vehicle to go belly up and injure/kill a lot of the passengers maybe.

Yeah, I realise it's a big if...I am open to other suggestions.

@Fuse, is the upper floor safe to use? If so probably easier to toss grenades down into the back of it than lob them from ground level.

I'm not 100% sure I'm reading the post correctly. Is the enemy BTR moving east? I'm assuming that it is heading for the stream/ditch/treeline north of the Humvee and thus getting into a position to flank or get behind us. Am I correct in this assumption (direction if not intention)?

This is on my phone so I still can't update the map or anything yet...


In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 55):

Yes, it turned southeast... and is using that narrow band of trees north/NW of you.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 54):

Upper floor of the house Ferro/Frank are in is intact. There is 1 window facing the road. So your plan is feasible for -1- PC to make a throw attempt... difficulty added for moving target.

I guess I should also mention that there might be some guys... maybe six... having already been dropped off and are moving west on foot through the trees. Coincidentally taking the same path the 2 partisans took. They aren't sweeping the area or moving tactically... more like in a single file and carrying shit. The PTSM is heading south and will then turn west at the junction where it will then pass in front of your house.

I'll update the map and write the narrative tonight to help explain things.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:20, Wed 30 Sept 2015.

Thanks Fuse.

@Cork / Jinny, I'm thinking we should still concentrate on the PTSM and leave the guys in the trees for now.

So we can hit them in three ways

Sniper Rifle - One person with the M40. Aimed shot at driver, followed by aimed shots at targets of opportunity
Grenades - One person goes upstairs with multiple grenades and tries to lob them into the back of the PTS (one at a time)
RPK - One person sprays the back with auto fire

Frank would seem to be best choice with the sniper rifle. Jinny, if you have a preference as to what Ferro does just yell.

(All assuming we go with that plan of course - if you'd rather look at other options just say)

I'm not too sure about the sniper shot. With the sight that's on it, I think the target is too close for it to be practical... like using a telescope to view something in the same room. Know what I mean?

I don't have experience with that sight, but unless someone wants to verify things for me, you may just have to take a quick shot (or an aimed with with you SMG). It will still be close range.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:46, Wed 30 Sept 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 58):

OK, cheers. Kessler has his AK as well as the RPK so that's another option.

Or we forget about trying to hit the driver and just hit the back with the RPK and the SMG on full auto.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 59):

I think the grenades are going to be your best bet coupled with a burst at the driver from ground level.

I can go with aimed shots of opportunity as needed.  What you said makes sense about using a scope close up Fuse.  Iron sights would be best and still used an aimed shot?

Ok, I've completed the turn and updated the map. Sorry about that, I hate leaving things unfinished, but had to let it go.

To help illustrate things, I've marked the arcs of view for the upstairs window... just to show the limits to the area you can attempt to grenade the passing PTSM. Again, it's just one window, so only one PC can utilize it as a fire position (or throwing position). The other two PCs will need to use the downstairs area (front window, kitchen window, or front doorway). That will limit just well they can shoot "into" the cargo bed.

As we are in combat, I'll request you include combat tags from here on. And of course, please be as specific as possible with your actions. Where I'm not sure, I have to guess, and that could result in consequences you didn't expect.

Next turn will be up Friday... but I might squeeze in some responses before then.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:45, Thu 01 Oct 2015.

To clarify, is the target the village to the west? And is the CG in the Humvee or is it in the Iltis. I know that at one time it was in the latter, but that was before it rolled over. I just want to be sure before I post IC. Thanks.

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The CG is with you, next to or in the Humvee at this point.

Sorry I'm late getting back but, I had a bad bout of Diverticulitis yesterday which reall fucked me up.  I want to post today so, We are throwing grenades and SMG fire into the back of the truck?

I was thinking, did you want Frank to take off after the dismounts that he saw behind the buildings?

I am really tight for time right now so apologies if this is brief.

I was thinking concentrate on the PTS – Frank tries to take out the driver (with SMG, M40, or Kessler's AK - his choice), Kessler opens up on the guys in the back with the RPK and Ferro goes upstairs to lob the grenades.

If you’d rather go after the dismounts that’s fine, just say and I’ll post IC accordingly – would still be as above but without Frank trying to take out the driver so the PTS.

(My thinking is it’s better to try and take out as many of the troops aboard the PTS while they’re bunched up in the back)
This message was last edited by the player at 12:22, Fri 02 Oct 2015.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 66):

Roger that

I am a little confused about what's happening. It might be a minor detail though I don't know...

Ferro can't throw grenades down until the PTSM moves directly in front of her window yet Frank and Kessler are engaging beforehand. As I understand it there is no before. The PTSM has already gone beyond the first break in the house (at the junction now) so as drives by the front of the house we'll have like 3 or four seconds to act before it's gone again... all of us need to engage at once.

Secondly (and maybe even more importantly) are we taking far too long to react? The map shows the PTSM has to cover only 100 meters before we need to act. The narractive says we "will need to react immediately and quickly before it passes." I'm not trying to be negative about this but with 3 vs 25 i really think we need to play this out as carefully as possible or we'll be rolling up new characrers.

The intent was that we were all engaging at once, with the signal to do so being Frank's shot at the driver (which wont take place until Ferro is in position). So once Frank takes the shot Kessler immediately opens fire with the RPK and Ferro throws a grenade. Whilst Frank's action will initiate it will be as near simultaneous as possible - the other two react to that shot. Sorry if that hasn't been communicated clearly.


I don't know. I floated this plan on two days ago and Fuse has responded several times to questions about it since; at no point has he indicated that there was a problem with the reaction times so I've taken that to indicate that he was happy with it.


I realise it may not be a great plan, but as I said, I put it forward two days ago and have said three times since then that I was open to alternative suggestions but nobody came back with anything else...

Ok I'm clear on it now.

No problem for the rest. Thanks.

I'll get my post up within an hour.

Turn is up. Map will is updated... https://www.google.com/maps/d/...73qCrNs.kEZ1sNcvVVak

Please account for ammunition fired.

OK, more back of an envelope thinking here...

@Corkman / Jinny - do you want Frank and Ferro to shift their attention to the dismount squad north of our position?

@Cymon - does Billy have a Grenade Launcher with him?

What I'm thinking is if Frank and Ferro can try and deal with the dismounts Kessler will try and link up with Kalina and Andrzej to concentrate on the PTS. Billy and Tosh can also come into play by engaging the PTS.

Getting slightly ahead of myself, what I'm trying to achieve is to have the Russians aboard the PTS think they are under attack by a large force and hope that they crack. So have another turn putting fire on them then Kessler will call for their surrender.

@Corkman, what I'm thinking is to have Kessler borrow Frank's WP grenade this turn. If the Russians choose not to surrender his plan would be to try and get close enough to lob the WP grenade into the back to try and "encourage" them to reconsider. If you'd rather keep hold of your WP grenade just say.

Comments / thoughts / alternative options very welcome...

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 72):

Yes, but I don't believe he has line of sight.

OK, I've gone with what I outlined yesterday to try to keep us moving along.

@Cymon, cheers for that - have tried to phrase things in such a way as to leave it to Billy's judgement whether to engage or not.

Kessler/Frank - remember that Ferro is not with you, but upstairs.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 75):

Fuse, does Billy have line of sight on the carrier and if he does what is the approx distance. Thanks.

On my phone right now... but I can answer that in about 5 hours.

Fuck, that's right.  Amending my post.

Not from cover - there is too much brush in the way.

If he steps out onto the road, there is line of sight - 250m range.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 79):

Thanks. I guess that is a no at this point. I have updated my post to give it ago.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:02, Mon 05 Oct 2015.

Frank is going to transition from his rifle (slinging) to his MP5SD.

Rae, and actually everyone else, could you indicate which target you are firing at by their IDs? I labelled them on the map, A, B, C, and so on...

Done.

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Thanks.

Ok, turn is up and complete.

Please adjust for ammo fired... I think just Billy though, as I'll handle .50cal and 84mm ammo.

There are 4x 84mm FFV-551 HEAT and 3x 84mm FFV-502 HEDP remaining.

Fuse, can you refresh my memory? What’s the condition of the house that Kessler and the Poles are using for cover? What I’m getting at is does it look as though they can enter the house and establish firing positions inside from where they can shoot back at the Russians with some degree of cover?

Sure...

I've relabeled them on the map, A - C (from left to right) again, with descriptions.

- The first (A) is merely rubble, a jumbled pile of burnt wood, scorched masonry and a crumbling but erect chimney.

- The middle house (B) is more intact, though battered by heavy gunfire. The roof is partially collapsed and the upper floor is likely to be inaccessible. Behind it the vegetation thickens and there are a couple dilapidated sheds.

- Furthest to the right (C), the house has superficial damaged (broken windows, some bullet holes, nothing major). This is the one you are adjacent to*.


* There is a back door on your (north) side, plus windows facing the west towards the Russian force.



FYI, I've also placed Frank/Ferro in their updated location, as well as Kessler, as I forgot to move them yesterday.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:05, Tue 06 Oct 2015.

Frank and Ferro under fire; are we into the same example with the rifle optics here at 50 meters being too close?

The H&K's should be able to reach out to that range with little problem.

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 87):

Yeah, it's rather close. You are in closed terrain, with tress and brush.

OK, I'm thinking of getting the BMP to hold position and getting the Humvee on to the road by he river. Then we drive west to see if we can get LOS on the BTR. If we can't, we fall back, if we can we take a shot and then retreat again.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Looks like we know what we have to do Ferro...

Yes... roll up new characters :D

Sorry about the delay. Working on the turn tonight.

HA!  Thought the same thing...

Turn is up. Don't forget to update for ammunition fired, thanks.


I wish I asked this earlier, but I'm not sure where the Humvee is headed.



I've taken the Humvee as far as the four-way intersection by the bridge... but I'm not sure if you are heading east or west from there. Please confirm, and I'll update the position on the map (and include an amendment to the turn if necessary).

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Remainder of turn to follow later.

I intend to head west to try and catch the BTR as it breaks cover. I'll post the turn now as there's plenty I need to do IC.

Are there still threats that Frank and Ferro can see still?

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 97):

If you stick your head out and look, yes, about five.

Thanks.  Post updated

Hey,

I had Thanksgiving/family commitments tonight, but have the rolls done. Will post things tomorrow.

Turn is up. Please account for ammo fired.

In this turn, Riedel can move the Krok across the bridge and over to the south bank of the Nogat. You'll have to limit the total distance that she can cover though, to say... halfway to Ferro/Frank/Kessler's position.

Tenza's rig will need to move back to the north side, to recover the flatbed, before it can move across to safety.

The bridge is taking fire from the west, but the location of the source is not yet known.

I'll do the map shortly.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:20, Wed 14 Oct 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 101):

Is anyone able to board the BTR to act as machine gunner? Fischer maybe?

He can board and do so.

In reply to Sabine Riedel (msg # 102):

Alan, Billy and Lines are on the opposite side of the bridge and were ordered to join the BTR's advance so you could pick them up. Billy's used a BTR's weapons before.

Thanks both.

Let's take Fischer, that way we have the BTR plus the three dismounts - if Billy boards the BTR dismount squad are down to two shooters and I think the more weapons we can bring to bear the better!

Regardless of what side of the river you are I'd appreciate some advice on how to proceed next as I really have no idea how to retrieve the situation.

If the BMP has followed orders it is on the bank trying to support the action across the river and the rear is open to the BTR.

I can see a few options none of which I like and I'd be happy to hear others:

1) Reverse the Humvee and try to head the BTR off. I can't see how we get the rig across the river though, it will take too long to hook it up and under fire it may be impossible.

2) Turn hard right and try to hit the BTR from behind whilst hoping the dismounts don't pepper us, assuming the Hummer is still operational. A rear shot with the fifty might do some damage to the vehicle, after that I don't see much option but ramming and I won't do that unless Varis can get clear.

Any ideas would be much appreciated.

I don't have a lot of time tonight, so this is more back of the envelope stuff...

For the Humvee reversing backwards is one option. What about putting your foot down and trying to break to the west? You'll be headed away from the rest of us but if it gets you out of the kill zone it may be worth considering (realistically I can't see any options other than going east or west). I know you'd have to run the gauntlet of the guntruck and a BTR, but I don't have anything better at the moment as far as the humvee is concerned.

I think we need to be prepared to abandon some kit / vehicles. I realise Tenza may not like it, but as you said to me not so long ago kit can be replaced, people can't. Can we get Tenza's rig across now if he is willing to abandon the flatbed trailer? (I realise the trailer is integral to recovering the fuel, but that's a moot point if we're all dead). Is the Iltis still immobile and in need of oil before it can move under its own power? If so are we abandoning it? The BMP could shred it to deny it to the enemy).

The BMP should be able to spin round fairly quickly if there's a risk of being hit from the rear (it probably has to to approach the bridge?)

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 106):

At this point I think the only option is to try and hit the BTR, no one else has the opportunity to do it and if it gets amongst the vehicles that's it for the mission.

Also there is the PTS-M which has a huge cargo capacity as long as we can take it in one piece losing some of the other vehicles would not be such a problem in that case. The Iltis is attached to the BMP so it would take more to unhook it. Hopefully it will soak up some of the fire from the BTR.

That's a good point. One of the things that has come up in discussion before has been how we're going to get back to Gdansk, given the trail of destruction we've left in our wake.

if we can secure the PTS and rig up some sort of repairs to the Krok we help not only our cargo capacity but also our amphibious capability, making us less reliant on bridges on the way back.

Can I just clarify one thing?

There are two BTR icons on the map - one at the western edge of the battle, the other the one in the middle of the village. Is that right and there are two BTR's present?
This message was last edited by the player at 07:48, Thu 15 Oct 2015.

Will be able to post later today or tonight

The PTSM is a good point but losing the trailer will be a huge blow. It has the mortar and bombs, much of our kit and all the oil drums on it which means that carrying capacity is moot as we have nothing to carry. It will simplify how we cross rivers on the way back though but I'm guessing Tenza won't be happy.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 112):

If we all make it out and we have the PTS we could always offer it to Tenza as a peace offering / replacement.

Re the drums, do we know what the fuel is currently being stored in? Large tanks / bladders, etc? In other words, might it be feasible to load some of them on to the PTS as they are? It's the wrecker that has the crane, correct? So if we get it across we still have the crane?

We will have the crane if we get the wrecker across and we'd definitely have to offer the wrecker to Tenza. As for how the fuel is stored, I don't know but I think the initial intel was pretty clear that we'd need drums. All that is academic though, we need to get out alive first. I'll post what I can to try and get as many people out as possible.

Losing the trailer is going to deal us a hard blow. Not only is it the (currently only) means to transport the fuel but it is carrying a lot of stuff on board too. But JJM is making the right decision in my opinion. None of what we'll lose is irreplaceable and as long as we have our people and most of our other gear we can recover.

The Iltis can't drive at the moment but its already hooked to the BMP so we don't have to abandon that. I assume the little jeep rolling in neutral isn't going to slow down the BMP. One (temporary) problem with that though is our motor oil supplies are on Tenza's trailer so it might be towed for a while.



Just have to do something about that BTR... and grab the PTSM.

Could the BMP try a nose to tail push of the flatbed, at least try to get it up onto the bridge ? If the flat bed is on the bridge anyway it will have to be moved so the BMP can get past.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:07, Thu 15 Oct 2015.

I'll be out of coms all day tomorrow and most of Saturday. The wife's graduating from her masters program and we're all driving up to Phoenix for the ceremony. I should be back in the loop by Sunday afternoon.

GM, please NPC Varis as needed.

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Don't worry, by the time you get to Phoenix, we'll be fine...

OK then, for eh next few turns the Humvee will try to hold up the enemy advance while we scramble to get as many people over as we can, vehicles are secondary. Once the vehicles are over, the BTR and most personnel will try to push the Russians out and capture the PTSM whilst the Krankenwagen will hold the bridge. If that gets done, JJ will try and get his own nuts out of the fire even if it means driving away from the fight.

Alright, if you are going to abandon the trailer, this would be the turn for it. I don't need an IC post to inform Tenza, we can just say it occurred, but I need confirmation on it here. Leaving the trailer?
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:42, Fri 16 Oct 2015.

Leave the trailer. We'll have to get a replacement vehicle or trailer for Tenza and up his share. Not that we'll be able to transport it.

Turn is up. I'll work on the map shorty.

Please account for ammo fired. Rae, the belt on the .50cal now holds about 20 rounds.

Is everyone ok with this encounter/battle? Any complaints?

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 122):

Is it feasible just to push the bridge layer off the bridge so it doesn't need to be towed ? I was going to have Alan suggest it to the BMP if it is something that can happen.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 122):

Shootout is good. No complaints. Good tension and frustration!

LOL "Krankenwagen". :D Best vehicle name.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 123):

No, it can't be pushed, only towed, and only then if that's done with multiple vehicles, as it's just too heavy.

Further, the Krok is already gone, and Tenza's rig and the wrecker are pulling out, so there's really no vehicles left to do anything regardless.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:55, Sat 17 Oct 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 122):

All good here...

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 122):

Very good encounter and VERY humbling fire fight...

Ideally, JJ is aiming to go to the right of the small building to his right and through the trees and then try to get between the grey roofed building and the three red roofed ones and from there on to the river road heading east.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 125):

Just want to check that Billy and Lines don't have LOS to any of the targets the BTR can see ? Thanks.

No not anymore/at the moment.

I know it may not look like it on the map, but there is a quite a bit of brush between you and the enemy.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 130):

That is what I thought. Thanks.

Cymon.

I'm back in Tucson and glad to see that Varis and everyone else is still alive. Holy cow, this battle is intense!

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This message was last edited by the player at 01:42, Sun 18 Oct 2015.

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg # 132):

Congratulations on your wife's achievement.

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Turn is up. Don't forget any ammunition fired.

Map has been updated.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:13, Tue 20 Oct 2015.

I don't think they are going to let us take the PTS-M cease fire or not. Without it we might as well go home.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 134):

Yeah, I know, but I'm trying to look at this through the lens of minimising casualties. So far afaik we haven't had any fatalities on this side of the river, but we've got three WIA (including the Polish NPC) so the ic thinking is that we're riding our luck (especially as we're outnumbered) and that a ceasefire is the best way of making sure that we all walk away from it. The PTS was always a bonus.

That said, nothing's been agreed yet...

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 135):

I see the reasoning, but if we are not taking the PTS-M we will have to disable it otherwise they will be on our arses for the rest of the trip. Taking it is the better option for the continuation of the scenario given that we still have to drive through the village anyway.
If they don't hold their side of the bargain we are done, I just think it is to much of a risk with enemy on both sides of the road and in an elevated position.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 136):

Yeah, I totally see your points as well.

I think this affects the whole group so it's not a call I'm going to have Kessler make unilaterally one way or the other (hence the reason I've left his response open for now). The Russians are prepared to offer a partial ceasefire on one side of the river only. By partial I mean it will only apply to the engineers and does not include the survivors of the heavy weapons team that engaged Frank and Ferro or any forces on the other side of the river (Fuse, please say if I've misunderstood any of that and that's not the case).

So @all, take it or leave it?

GM - the above is correct
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:58, Tue 20 Oct 2015.

I guess it depends on whether we want the PTSM or to find a trailer (to keep the mission from failing). Personally, I am not sure...

We can't get a ceasefire with the engineers and then go seize their transport... and I doubt they are in a position where they are willing to let it go. They still have strength and more friends with armor just across the river.

Fischer and Sabine are rolling up to it in the Krok... and correct me if Im wrong but a PTSM is not armored right?

I think we could take the ptsm and handle the engineers. Especially if those new shooters are partisans which seems to be the case.

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Though I can't imagine it being hard to fine a trailer either. And it may save a life.


I'm fine with whatever you choose to do.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:14, Tue 20 Oct 2015.

I hate leaving shit behind but, no one has died, yet!  I think that if we continue to engage, we're going to lose some people.  Frank's already fucked up and another hit may take him out of this fight that isn't close to being over.  Frank's all in no matter what the choice is.  We're going to have to seriously sit down and rethink this whole mission and what we're going to do next.

I will say that it isn't from the lack of leadership that we're in this problem.  If anything, we're not dead because of our leadership!  Losing sucks and I think we may have to take an "L" to fight another day to get a "W" at a later date.

I will be able to post tomorrow afternoon or evening.

OK, thanks those of you who chipped in. I'm going to decline the offer of a ceasefire for a variety of reasons, most of which have already been said - we've got the BTR joining the fight (plus hopefully the partisans) and the PTS is a valuable asset if we can capture it.

I also don't think a partial ceasefire is a tactically sound option given that we would still have one group of Sovs who are not party to it that would have to be dealt with (the heavy weapons squad) and if we turned our backs on the engineers they could double cross us at any time, which would leave us no further forward.

I hope everyone's OK with that - Frank and Ferro, keep your heads down!

I'll post IC later.

Confirming that it's one grenade?

Yes. In Varis' mind, frags are nearly worth their weight in gold (absolutely essential for CQB), and trying to toss two in quick succession seems kind of dangerous.

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This message was last edited by the player at 02:26, Thu 22 Oct 2015.

Thanks.

The turn is up. You're nearly through... but just not quite there yet.

Please account for ammunition.

Map is updated.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 144):

Fuse could you put an icon for the boat on the map ? Thanks.

Done.

This is one of these things that I reckon my character would know but I'm not sure about. If Kessler gets close enough to the dyke to pinpoint roughly where the heavy weapons team are at on the other side and tosses Frank's WP grenade at them (he has no frags) would that be likely to have unintended consequences, e.g. starting a fire that might get out of control and spread to threaten the bridge? Or am I overthinking it?

EDIT. Also, is there a way Kessler would be able to clamber up on to the dyke?
This message was last edited by the player at 12:16, Thu 22 Oct 2015.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 147):

No, there is no risk of unintended fire.

Yes, it's just about 1.5-2m high will grassy sloped sides. A berm.

I also need to clarify something about Riedel and Fischer.

The Krok is 30m from the PTS-M and the infantry in the ditch, so arriving there will happen in this turn.

So, I need to know if you will stop here, drive through & around the PTS-M, or try to drive through via the ditch (running over the infantry), or reversing now.

If Spartan has no objections I'd suggest driving around and through the PTS (so staying on the road). I think if we stop dead we're vulnerable and if we try to go through the ditch we might get stuck in the ditch.

In reply to Sabine Riedel (msg # 150):

Or one of those bastids has a mine he's been carrying around and puts it out before we arrive.  Packrat engineers...
This message was last edited by the player at 18:30, Thu 22 Oct 2015.

In reply to Lukas Fischer (msg # 151):

I'm game for risking the ditch if you prefer...make them go crunch under the wheels.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:20, Thu 22 Oct 2015.

In reply to Lukas Fischer (msg # 151):

They do seem to have an awful lot of those nasty anti-vehicle things.

In reply to Sabine Riedel (msg # 152):

Maybe head south a bit and get into the field then move east?  Opens up angles, keeps us off the most most expected avenue of approach.  There are a few tree lines, but good fields of fire north from there.

Can Frank see this???

In reply to Lukas Fischer (msg # 154):

You're in charge...I'm just the driver...!

That works for me...

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 155):

No... you guys are too far east. You can't see any enemy at the moment.

In reply to Sabine Riedel (msg # 156):

Ok, I made a quick edit: Slow and south instead of slow and steady... :)

THanks

I have some family business this weekend that will keep me away from things. I was hoping to squeeze in the turn post tonight, but that didn't happen, so there will be a delay until late sunday night.

I just finished the turn and will get on to the map shorty. Sorry it's a day later than I expected. Next turn is scheduled for Wednesday night.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:25, Tue 27 Oct 2015.

In previous last turn, Varis tossed a smoke SW of where the Humvee was waiting to cross the bridge.

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Thanks for reminding me. I've edited that bit out.

I have to head out for a few hours, but I'll do Kessler and the Krok's turn later tonight. Ferro/Frank, I'll use msg #413 from last night for your turn update.

Very good then

Ok, turn is up and the map is updated.

@Billy - in this turn you will reach Mulcahy and Morgan. Mulcahy is closer, with about 15-20m separating him and Morgan. You can pick up either one you want, but you can only pick up 1 at a time/this turn. I made the roll, and whoever it is, it's a successful pickup. You can include that in your post. Any questions, just let me know.

@McCarthy - in this turn you can successfully pick up Lines by the side of the road, just past the bridge.




I'll be out of town for the weekend, so next post from me is scheduled for late Monday night. Have a good Halloween everyone, if you partake.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:38, Fri 30 Oct 2015.

OK, do people want to press on with this fight or break contact as soon as we can and get the hell out?

My vote would be for running. As for a route there are several options:

1) Run for Elbag
2) Run south and hook around Elbag via Markusy, Jelonki and Paslek
3) Any other options people think of

As soon as we get a breathing space we need to reassign people to more effective positions, at the moment we're all over the shop.

Also, who can drive Tracked Vehicles? If no-one else can JJ will have to drive the PTS-M which will make C+C difficult.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 167):

I’m for getting out of dodge – in terms of where we go, It may be worth seeing if we can link up with the partisans for the short term.

Iirc anyone with WVD skill also has TVD skill at half their skill level plus asset, so most people should be able to do it (although possibly not particularly well...)

Yes, the partisans may have info that can help us, we'll have to see.

I'm keen on getting out too. Preferably before the Humvee craps out on us.

Marshall and Lines are valid drivers.

Whilst I remember, I have family visiting this weekend so I wont be around Saturday / most of Sunday.

I am for finishing the fight and recovering the PTS we have the engineers in a pincher at this point and they may just break once they realise that. The Humvee can be carried by the PTS if we have to and it will take time to recover everyone as it is.

To clarify, I'm in favour of finishing off the engineers and taking the PTS. However I'd rather be gone by the time the elements on the other side (the two BTRS, etc) get round to trying to to cross the river.

I'm in favor of finishing off the engineers without having to physically clear them out. Using firepower or whatever.

Turn is up and the map is updated.

This turn I'm suggesting we try to get the wrecker and rig into the cover of the big house south of them and tuck the Humvee into the lee of the smaller building just to the south. That leaves everyone else to clean out the last of the engineers.

What do people think?

Also, I know this is unlikely but  is there any way of contacting the boat? It may be better for them to carry on up the river and hook around the canal rather than try and get on the bank under fire.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 176):

Does that leave anyone to give O'Brien covering fire?

As we're still being fired on by the BTRs I'm hoping that if I position the Humvee correctly we'll still be able to provide cover fire but be harder to hit. If the position doesn't work I'll have to re-evaluate as the zod definitely needs some support.

Not really, the bridge is blocking nearly all of the fire. The further you go east, the better it is. The fifty will have the same limitations if you remain on the road.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 178):

I'm hoping that we'll be able to finish off the engineers sooner rather than later (either by them surrendering or them cracking when the Krankenwagen heads towards them). Hopefully we can then give you some back up. If we can get our hands on the anti materiel rifle that might help.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 180):

You guys have one on the Krank.

I'm not sure (just posted) but, maybe they can set Frank up to cover a sector that he can do some good in this fight yet?

Once the engineers are dealt with we'll be able to concentrate and get organised, hopefully to break contact but that may depend on what the partisans want to do. It's a matter of wiping out one threat whilst delaying the other at the moment.

The PTRS-D is in the Krankenwagen, I'd thought about it but until the Humvee is settled and JJ doesn't have to focus on driving for a while I can't issue too many dictats or reminders.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 183):

If it is used by a PC, just as a heads up, it'll take a turn to collect from the Humvee's cargo space and reassemble, before using.

Yeah, I get that, Kessler is in the same boat - that's why he ignored Ferro's radio call earlier when she asked if there were any fresh orders - he was taking down the heavy weaposn squad at the time (sorry Jinny!). Command and control has effectively went out of the window as long as the commanders are active participants in the combat. Kessler at least has managed to disengage slightly and start looking at bigger picture but I appreciate McCarthy can't.

I think there's also a challenge inasmuch as Kessler and McCarthy have been fighting two very separate battles so even ooc I'm not sure exactly what has been going on with yours as I've been too focused on my own and making sure everyone walks away (hence the reason Kessler was telling Krupp that he (Kessler) needs Cassidy - to the best of my ooc knowledge he doesn't know that Varis is WIA and WIlson is KIA (I'm not moaning that McCarthy hasn't told him, just pointing out that at a meta level some of the leadership decisions may appear to be less than perfect).

I was meaning the anti materiel rifle that the heavy weapons squad were using, which is on the other side of the dyke with a PKM. Again, not recovering either of those may not have been the best decision but priority at the time was to get back into the fight (and deal with a Pole the severity of whose wound was unknown) not recover kit. Recovering it now may be too risky if the Russians on the other bank have that area under fire.

Absolutely, there's no criticism meant in my post, Kessler's been running round saving everyone's backside too s there's been little time for co-ordination. I'd remembered about the AM rifle with the enemy but I agree with you, at the moment command should be concerned about getting our people out alive, not gathering gear. As for the one in the Krank, once the Hum's stopped I'll be able to do more suggestions. As for Kessler, he's going to have his hands full with whatever the partisans want I'm guessing.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 185):

Billy, if he makes it. Will need to rearm the two in the boat so as he knows where one rifle is from the engineer he shot and the radio call about the others that will be where he intends to go either by inflatable or on foot along the shoreline.

If you can make it to that spot that would be great - there's six dead Ivans in the vicinity, none of whom have been looted, with an AM rifle and a PKM.

But don't take any chances getting there - you've got a hole in your boat!

Yeah, it's cool, I guess it's just been at the back of my mind that circumstances have dictated that some calls have been a case of taking the "less bad" option rather than the "good" option!

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 188):

I think we will ditch the boat once we are past the bridge, if we make it that far.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 189):

Yup, we call that TK2. :}

Ok, turn is up.

Heroic action by Billy, but it's unclear how that will turn out. For everyone else, you're pretty much in the clear. The engineers are all complying with the surrender, the PTS-M is yours, and the enemy are stalled on the far side of the river. You have time, but the quicker you depart the easier it will be.

I'll be out of town again this weekend, but will be able to respond to PMs and OOC questions. I should be able to also give some replies to any posts requiring a spoken response. Next turn post though won't be up until next Monday. After that everything should be back to normal.


Added to the roster of heroes:

Luis Ortega (USA) - KIA (Kępki, Poland, October 22, 2000)
Joseph Morgan (USA) - KIA (Kępki, Poland, October 22, 2000)
Dean Wilson (USA) - KIA (Kępki, Poland, October 22, 2000)
Arthur Fox (UK) - MIA (Kępki, Poland, October 22, 2000)
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:08, Thu 05 Nov 2015.

Have we got any rope?

And if so would it be feasible to try and toss it to Billy and Caleb so we can try and haul them ashore?

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 193):

There's 25m of rope in the tow truck. They're out too far in the river to throw it to them though.

It would seem that, if they remain on the wreckage and aren't seen, they'll float out of the combat zone (past the bend). If you want to wait and try using rope there, it might work. Sending out an unburdened swimmer to bring them the rope would have a better chance though. Or an amphibious vehicle.

Cheers for that.

Next question.

Is Frank fit enough to man the BTR's turret?

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 195):

He is. Frank's still fighting... just not running or doing any pushups.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 193):

Sorry guys if I had of realised that the APC had line of sight Billy would not have attempted the rescue.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 197):

No worries, we'll fish you out one way or another.

Although the plan to tie the rope around Varis and then attempt to launch him into the river like a human cannonball may need some refinement...

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 197):

Valiant attempt either way.

Seems a lot bigger in the video than it does in still shots I've seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sng14GpGW10
This message was last edited by the player at 20:12, Thu 05 Nov 2015.

@Corkman, sorry dude but I'm not sure how to respond to your last post. There's a whole paragraph in Reidel's post where she speaks to Frank in English


This message was last edited by the player at 15:52, Sat 07 Nov 2015.

After going back and reading it, I misinterpreted you talking to Fischer.  I corrected my post.

All, just a quick fyi, my online time will probably be limited for most of this coming week. I will be around and I will still be able to post, but I may be slow in doing so and and / or my posts may be briefer than usual.

Turn is up. I'll be around steady for the next several weeks, so there shouldn't be anymore extended downtimes from me. Thanks for the update Dave.

I'll add a list of Ferro's loot here sometime soon. Info gained by Kessler will come later/soon as well... I need to review game setting/background stuff first.

I mentioned what the partisans want to do, but don't feel like you must follow along. If you have other plans or destinations, or whatever, then that's fine. If that's the case, Andrzej will need to be carried out by Poles, who will ask to trade for the Krankenwagon's stretcher (offering 1x Rifle from the loot Seweryna pickled up).

Please ensure all ammo fired for the encounter has been deducted, along with grenades and lost gear/weapons. Thanks.

XP added.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:29, Tue 10 Nov 2015.

Recovered Spoils taken from the dead or were already in the PTS-M:

Doesn't include stash found by Fischer
The Partisans may be expecting some of this

1x Map (1:50000 Malbork/Gdansk/Elbag Zone)   [Unmarked]
1x Det Cord (50m Spool)
1x Primer Cord (5m Length)
1x PN-4 Demolition Charge
5x Blasting Caps
1x Demolition Tool Kit
1x MON-50 Directional Mine (Mechanical Pull Fuse)
2x POM-Z Landmine
1x Mine Detector
1x Landmine Marking Kit (nylon tape & flags)
5x x3 RGD-5 Fragmentation Grenades
1x M-67 Fragmentation Grenade
1x RKG-3/3M Anti-tank Grenade
1x M-18 HC Smoke Grenade
1x Case w/5g Tobacco
2x Chemlight (Green)
1x R-159 Manpack Radio
5x AKM Rifles
1x AKMS Rifle
1x M16A2 Rifle
2x PPSH-43 Submachinegun
1x PP-91 KEDR Submachinegun
10x 2x 30rnd. 7.62mmS Magazines
1x 30rnd. 5.56mmN Magazine
3x 35rnd. 7.62mmT Magazine
1x 20rnd. 9mmM Magazine
180x 7.62mmS Rounds
30x 5.56mmN Rounds
80x 7.62mmT Rounds
20x 9mmM Rounds
2x Lifchek Webbing [both contain minor personal issue items]

1x PTRS-41 Anti-armor Rifle / x2 14.5mm KPV
1x PKM Medium Machingun / x25 7.62mmL Link
1x Smoke (Purple Signal) Grenade

1x Bottle [2L] w/1L Vodka
2x Cigarettes
1x Bottle w/x20 Painkillers (Expired)
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:31, Thu 12 Nov 2015.

I was just wanting to check that I am reading it correctly and Alan is with the Humvee on the map at the rescue point ?

In reply to Alan Little (msg # 206):

Actually no...

I didn't update the map.

Little is with Lines watching the bridge... though there is nothing to see at the moment, so I'm ok with them having moved over to the rest of the group (by the PTSM, Krokodil & Krankenwagon). The Humvee left them and moved to the rescue point in the NE.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 207):

Right thanks I will update my post and have them loot on their return trip to the PTSM.

Ok, thanks, but that will add time to the departure, just to be clear.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 209):

Yes understood. Though would some of his search take place while Billy is being rescued given that Alan and Tosh were dropped off during the last turn ? Thanks.

I am going to post assuming the Humvee returns to the group. If that's not how it will be I'll edit later.

Heavy week at work so the post may not be as detailed or well thought out as it should be.

Basically, load up and get out.

Someone needs to keep an eye on the enemy.

Decide where you want to sit in the vehicles. We need crew and dismounts for the Krok, a PC gunner for the BMP, it's effectively useless otherwise, and someone to man the fifty on the back of the PTSM (Still in the Humvee but I assume it is of some use as a defensive weapon.

Call out what you want to do.

I'd be up for getting out of the BTR turret as a dismount if someone else wants to man it for a bit.

In reply to Lukas Fischer (msg # 213):

If nobody volunteers, we can place an NPC in there.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 214):

Does the PTSM have a gun ring ? Billy is happy to take either position if he is capable with his current wound ?

Varis is cool to stay on the .50 in the Humvee once it's loaded aboard the PTSM. He'd also like to get some antibiotics and pain meds from Riedel ASAP.

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Happy for Kessler to stay as vehicle commander for the Krok.

I'd prefer to get Riedel out of the Krok and into another vehicle - for one I prefer not to talk to myself and for two it limits her in her medic role. Is Aleksandar available to take over as Riedel as Krok driver?

Riedel would likely benefit from a personal radio. Is there one available? (according to the vehicles / stores thread Wilson had one but I don't know how accurate that is - @Fuse, that thread shows Kessler as having borrowed Babicevs' radio - whilst there was some swapping around at one point afaik Kessler now has the Cougarnet that is listed as being Mulcahy's).

I'm a little embarrassed, I can't find Frank's history/background

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 218):

I can't find it either. Perhaps we didn't make one. In any case, feel free to make it up as you feel like it should be.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 217):

I'll sort out the radios shorty, thanks.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:50, Thu 12 Nov 2015.

Before I add the spoils to your group inventory, is anyone going to take any of it for personal use?

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 220):

Billy will take one of the AK's as a replacement for his lost rifle and eight magazines. If the under folder is in good condition he will take it or the best rifle over all if it is not.

I also have a ghoulish question, but the backpacks of those killed or lost can we have a list of this equipment ?
This message was last edited by the player at 06:32, Thu 12 Nov 2015.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 221):

Ok, add...

1x AKMS Rifle
8x 30rnd. 7.62mmS Magazines *
180x 7.62mmS Rounds

* Only six are full... the other 2 are empty (unless you find ammo elsewhere).

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 222):

Also if no one wants/needs the demo gear I will probably give it to Little as the start of a demo kit. What is in the Demolition Tool Kit ? Thanks.


1x Det Cord (50m Spool)
1x Primer Cord (5m Length)
1x PN-4 Demolition Charge
5x Blasting Caps
1x Demolition Tool Kit
1x MON-50 Directional Mine (Mechanical Pull Fuse)
2x POM-Z Landmine

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 220):

Can I request one of the frag grenades?

No problems with that at all

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 223):

Little has a pack that's mostly empty, yeah?
Go ahead an add it.
The tools are just a couple wire snippers and things like that. Nothing special... 1kg.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 224):

Sure.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:30, Thu 12 Nov 2015.

I'm going to need to replace the ones that Frank lent out and were used when there is time to sort out things.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 226):

Yes that is correct.

Kessler has 2 at the minute - the one he took himself from the corpse he looted (which I have presumed is not included in the totals) and the one I've snagged.

IIRC Kessler gave one to Ferro as well but I don't know if she used both of them. If we can get some sort of total we can distribute amongst ourselves fairly.

My monitor is slowly dying. If/when it finally gives up the ghost, I may go silent for a bit while I wrangle up a replacement. I can check in here on my phone but posting from it? Not really.

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In the process of updating stores.

Just so you're aware, the following was on the flatbed and subsequently lost.

1x 1.5 Kilowatt Generator
2x Excavating Tools (Set)
1x Axe
1x Hatchet
1x Hacksaw
1x Grapple
1x Prybar
1x Hose & Funnel
3x NBCW Suit (Used)
1x Steel Drum 200L (85L Ethanol Fuel)
1x Plastic Drum 200L (6L Motor Oil)
1x Wooden Chest (Mixed domestic trade goods ~$300 value)
3x Small Boxes (Mixed domestic trade goods ~$75 value ea.)
1x Medium Box (Mechanical components such as springs, wires, and locks)
2x Artillery Ammo Crate (Mixed food ~35kg ea.)
1x Artillery Ammo Crate
1x 4L Plastic Jug (2L Vinegar)
1x 4L Plastic Jug (1L Turpentine)
Approximetly 80x 200L Steel Drums

Most of it was spoils from Rybina. The generator however was yours and brought along to work the pump meant for the fuel dump. You still have the pump (on the wrecker) but the drums are obviously gone too.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:15, Fri 13 Nov 2015.

Varis will take the pry bar.

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In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg # 232):

No, those are lost items. Burned or captured by the enemy.

Thanks for the warning on your future absence, by the way.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:28, Fri 13 Nov 2015.

Oh, poop. I wish I'd spotted it earlier before it was destroyed. A pry bar is very useful to a guy like Varis.

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Radios. I've been updating radios. One new thing I've added is a serial number for every radio. This is to prevent duplication occurring. Every radio, including the unclaimed ones in stores now have a unique label. I've edited the PC sheets already.

If any radios are taken by a PC it must include the serial number. Mystery radios without one will be counted as duplicates and deleted. Thanks.

Here is an update of who has what...

*** Radios ***                                               CHARGING/BORROW

Aleksandar  -                                 -              -
Anna        -                                 -              -
Babicevs    > R-126 [#X05] (2/5km)            1xPACK (1/8)   -
Benucci     > AN/PRC-68 [#X04] (2.5km)        9xAA (4/13)    -
Cooper      -                                 -              -
Ferro       > AN/PRC-139 [#X03] (2km)         8xAA (3/11)    -
Fox         > Cougarnet PRC6515 [#X06] (2km)  1xPACK (0/4)   -
Hollister   > AN/PRC-139 [#X08] (2km)         8xAA (8/12)    -
Kolstrup    > AN/PRC-139 [#X09] (2km)         8xAA (6/10)    -
Krupp       -                                 -              -
Janku       -                                 -              -
Fischer     > SEM-52S [#X07] (2.5km)          8xAA (3/7)     -
Kessler     > Cougarnet PRC6515 [#X12] (2km)  1xPACK (5/12)  -
Riedel      -                                 -              -
Lines       -                                 -              -
Little      > SEM-52S [#X01] (2.5km)          8xAA (2/8)     -
Majchrzak   -                                 -              -
Marshall    -                                 -              -
McCarthy    > AN/PRC-68 [#X10] (2.5km)        9xAA (2/10)    -
Meyer       -                                 -              -
Mulcahy     -                                 -              -
O'Brien     > SEM-52S [#X02] (2.5km)          8xAA (2/10)    -
Wilson      -
*Stores     > R-159 Manpack [#Y01] (3/12km)   1xPACK (10/10) -
*Stores     > R-159 Manpack [#Y02] (3/12km)   1xPACK (0/0)   *BROKEN*
*Stores     > AN/PRC-77 Manpack [#Y03) (8km)  1xPACK (7/7)   -
*Stores     > Chinese Tactical [#X11] (2km)   8xAA (6/6)     -

This message was last edited by the GM at 07:49, Fri 13 Nov 2015.

Lukas would be interested in Wilson's old radio, since Lukas is shifting to serve as a dismount.

SEM-52S [#X07] (2.5km)          8xAA (3/7)
This message was last edited by the player at 07:20, Fri 13 Nov 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 235):

Kessler has the cougarnet radio - he got it from Mulcahy at one point.  It will take me a while to find all the relevant post numbers . He only borrowed Babicevs' briefly while the cougarnet was on charge.

Edit. I think we also looted a radio from the Poles at Rybina.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:52, Fri 13 Nov 2015.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 237):

Oh... ok. I'll edit.

So Varis has his radio back and Kessler using Caleb's (which wasn't lost when he ditched his gear).

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 238):

Correct. Kessler has been using Caleb's radio for months real time. He did take Babicevs' briefly at the death camp but that was just temp whilst his own (i.e, Caleb's as was) charged.

If I'm right about having a Polish one could Riedel use it?

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 239):

That might be the Chinese tac radio, do you agree? I can't remember where it came from, except from Soviet troops somewhere.

Edit - seems not. The chinese set came well before your party joined. I don't know which one you are referring to.
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:24, Fri 13 Nov 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 240):

I could be wrong about the Polish set - will need to check on a pc (am on my phone at the minute) but I thought we lifted one when Kessler went through the officer's house at Rybina.

No, you seem to be right.

Back downstairs, Kessler enters the living room and finds two strands of comms wire for an otherwise absent field phone, trailing off through a window presumably to both bridges. A dried water stain and smudge on the table forms the size and shape one would expect the phone to be, though there's no indication where the device is now. Lastly, near the dying fire in the brick hearth, the German picks up a hand radio and speaks into it, only to hear Fischer's voice reply on the other end, "Hallo... Kriegshammer here." The BTR-60 is the only other station that breaks the incessant hiss of static.

I need to look around and see if I can figure what happened to it, or if it was overlooked from loot.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 242):

Yeah I just found it too. Kesslers's next post he mentions taking everything - there's even a specific reference to the radio. Am fairly sure all the loot wad put in the rucksack (which was itself loot) and said rucksack went in the Krok. Ergo radio should be in the Krok.

Ok, I looked at the OOC posts from that time frame, and it seems the radio was never mentioned on any loot lists... so it got overlooked.

You can add:

1x AN/PRC-126 Hand Radio [#X13]
This message had punctuation tweaked by the GM at 07:37, Fri 13 Nov 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 244):

Cheers. If no one objects I'd like to claim that for Riedel given she is the only pc medic.

I will be able to post IC in about 3 hours.

Can Ferro draw one of the smoke grenades please.

Frank will request [2] frags or [1] frag & [1] AT grenade, whichever is more feasible.

Updated map showing your location and the two river crossing options. So many rivers!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/...73qCrNs.kEZ1sNcvVVak

@Frank, take 1 Frag & 1 AT (The AT grenade is a "RKG-3/3M")
@Ferro, add them to your sheet.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:03, Fri 13 Nov 2015.

In reply to Ferro (msg # 246):

Actually, just to clarify on the smoke. There are two types, signal and regular.

Signal smoke is colored, but it doesn't create an effective smokescreen. It's used for marking.

Regular smoke is uncolored, but will create a smokescreen.
This message was last updated by the GM at 21:02, Fri 13 Nov 2015.

Not to use a bunch of meta knowledge on the this, but we should just paint three or four Kotwica on our vehicles and then the locals will be fine with us/it/them.  Half the stuff in Warszawa has the Kotwica on it.  It is the most popular t-shirt symbol I've seen as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotwica

And just yell out "Polska Walcząca (Pol-ska val-chont-sa)" if you see any locals.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:08, Fri 13 Nov 2015.

In reply to Lukas Fischer (msg # 250):

I don't think that's really meta knowledge. Lukas, or at least one or more others would probably know this.

Good suggestion.

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Sorry, I didn't address this directly, but Burant would suggest waiting until you are on the east side of the river. His band's home is there and it's secure.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:54, Fri 13 Nov 2015.

Character    Status    Morale  Blood    Notes
McCarthy     OK        High    A+       -
Benucci      Injured   Fair    O+       Gunshot wounds x2 / Recovery Expected ?
O'Brien      OK        High    O+       -
Little       OK        High    A+       -
Mulcahy      Exhausted Low     O+       Exposure & psychological
Ferro        OK        Good    O+       Light injury
Varis        Injured   Good    O+       Gunshot wound / Recovery Expected ?
Lines        OK        High    A-       -
Meyer        Injured   Low     O+       Alcohol/Depression Issues / Wounds Expected Recovery ?
Marshall     OK        Good    O+       -
Aleksandar   OK        High    A-       Promoted to Driver Status
Krupp        OK        Good    A+       Hearing Damage
Janku        Injured   Low     A-       Fragmentation wounds & concussion / Recovery Expected ?
Fischer      OK        High    O+       -
Kessler      OK        High    A+       -
Riedel       OK        High    A+       -
Auttenberg   OK        Good    A-       Light injury
Anna         OK        Fair    ???      -

Civilian personal are uninjured and in mixed moods.

Vehicle fuel status is estimated at: 2/3 remaining. Still within limits of reaching objective and returning.

Humvee        Immobile (needs repair and replacement parts)
Iltis         Immobile (needs motor oil)
Krankenwagon  Operational
Krokodil      Operational
Wrecker       Operational
Heavy Rig     Operational
PTS-M         Operational

This message was last edited by the GM at 06:54, Sat 14 Nov 2015.

@Fuse, can the Iltis be fixed whilst we're halted here or is it a lengthier job?

@All, any thoughts on which river crossing to take? My vote would be for the 2nd option - whilst it's potentially more dangerous we would be able to take all of the vehicles with us. If we take the 1st option I'm not sure what we would do with the armour - the Krok's amphib capability is iffy at best and I'm not aware that the Krankenwagen has any amphib capability?

Any thoughts?

Frank's morale might change when he finds out about Ortega

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 253):

Not anymore. Its fluids were drained as a makeshift substitute for the bridge-layer. Instead of getting drained and refilled back into the Iltis when you were done, they were lost in the rushed crossing.

Spare oil was on the flatbed.

So you need to do some scrounging in a suitable location.

Since the Humvee is jacked, can we swap its fluids to the Iltis?

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 253):

I vote for the second option as well. Do you think we can take the bridge and diminish the amount of people who know where we crossed ?

How much oil does it need?

(I think there's 4 litres of motor oil aboard the Krok.)

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg # 256):

Yes, that's doable.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 257):

We can try - my thinking was that rather than bribe the Malbork militia (which will cost us and might end up in a double cross) we can try and either capture or kill them.

OK, I've posted for the second option. I know only one other person chipped in with an opinion (thanks Cymon) but Mark and I discussed it in pm as well and came to the conclusion it was the only sensible option., so hope everyone is OK with it.

We also have a provisional revised seating plan / TOE to cover the current period. This is absolutely not set in stone so if anyone would prefer their PC to do something else please say and we will try our best to make it happen.

Krok
Driver: Ferro - dismount as appropriate, in which case replaced by Krupp
VC: Kessler - dismount as appropriate
Gunner: Benucci - has duty as VC (in addition to being gunner) if Kessler dismounts

As noted, Kessler and Ferro will dismount as appropriate in which case their places will be backfilled by Benucci and Krupp respectively.

Krankenwagen
Driver: Marshall
VC: Krupp - moves to BTR when required
Gunner: Lines - has duty as VC (in addition to being gunner) if Krupp switches to the Krok
Asst Gunner: Mulcahy (subject to being passed for for duty)
Passenger: Cassidy
Casualty: Janku
Casualty: Meyer

As noted Krupp will move to the BTR as driver if Ferro is required as a dismount, in which case his place will be backfilled by Lines

Note this has been done so that vehicle is entirely manned by NPC's. If Mulcahy is not fit for duty he can ride inside. (Fuse?)

PTS-M / Humvee
Driver: Autenberg (PTS)
VC: McCarthy (PTS)
Gunner: Babicevs (Humvee)
Asst Gunner: Anna (Humvee)

Dismounts
IC: Kessler

Squad #1
Little (IC)
Riedel
Aleksandr

Squad #2
Fischer (IC)
O'Brien
Ferro

Civilian vehicles are still manned by Tenza and his people.

If the Iltis is operational Squad #1 will ride in it for and Squad #2 will ride on the BTR for now. If it's not both squads will ride on the BTR. Note on the BTR, not in the BTR. That's as per Soviet doctrine - apparently the nickname for the BTR was the "coffin" and it was deemed safer to be on top and able to jump off if you came under attack than ride inside and hope that the armour would protect you.

As noted, these are not set in stone, so if anyone wants to change just say. Also, I think we have accounted for everyone but if anyone has been missed by mistake just shout.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 261):

"Billy is shot through the thigh, just inches from his hip and groin."

Billy is not mobile at the moment so not to much help as a dismount. Does the PTS have a mount on the gun ring that we could add something to ?

I am more in favor of the 2nd option. It keeps us together which is what we need right now. I can't imagine Tenza abandoning his truck either and (IMO) as partners we are committed to doing what we can to prevent that.

I have to agree.  We need to keep everyone together as much as possible.

Varis could swap with Billy, if need be.

I too am in favor of option 2.

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I put something together that I wanted to happen, but I won't be able to get the actual turn up until tomorrow. Before that happens, I'll post a map showing the layout of the bridge, so you can give me an OOC concept of how you plan to proceed. That way the turn can start off with you making your move.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:27, Sun 15 Nov 2015.

The rules list it having a PHT mount, but both the PKM and AGS-17 that you have use PLT  & PMT respectively... so I'm going to have to say no. Not without shop modification or something.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:35, Sun 15 Nov 2015.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 267):

At least there is one. Thanks.

Ok, I want to show you the layout before I put up the turn tomorrow, to give you a chance in OOC to come up with/modify your plan.


- You'll be coming in from the north.

- There is a largely intact cement plant and some warehouse ruins on the way in. Any vehicles parked here would be concealed from the militia.

- In the middle of an open field is a grassy rise. On the rise are a few burned out buildings that are just piles of charred rubble. One house on the east edge of the property however is partially standing - that's the militia house.

- The militia house's upper floor is completely gone, with the new roof consisting of scraps of wood and tarp, making it appear more like a shanty than anything. All of the windows are boarded up, each with one horizontal opening (30cm x 5cm) left between the boards. It's likely to be reinforced on the inside, as per usual house defense doctrine. The men sleep, eat, and hang out here. Sometimes they are drunk.

- A trench connects the militia house with a log and earthen bunker. Access to the trench is via a hole in the house's cellar, allowing covered passage in and out. The trench is about neck height, and zigzags twice before connecting directly into the bunker.

- The bunker is large enough to house a squad, though only one or two men are ever in it at a time, and usually it's only one. A tall radio mast is visible sprouting up from the dirt roof. The bunker is built of earth and logs, with three viewing ports facing the north, east, and south. The west has no port... being the side with the entrance/access to the trench. The bunker is likely to be able to withstand, up to and including, KPV fire.

- The railroad runs along the top of an elevated berm. On the north side, a mound of hard packed dirt has been built for vehicles to easily drive up and down the slope. There is a small, but study bridge which allows for farming traffic to drive through the berm. Just short of the main bridge there is a sign warning of the bomb, to deter unauthorized crossing. It's likely command detonated, with the wire buried, and likely leading to the bunker. One man is usually posted to the bridge, sometimes two... and sometimes none.

- There are six militia posted here, with a maximum of only 2 on "duty" at a time. The remainder sleep, pass the time, eat, or do chores like chop firewood or carry water up from the river. Weapons range from Mosin-Nagants to modern military small arms. They are dressed in civilian attire and have no body armor - or webbing. No heavy weapons have been observed here.

- Eastbound traffic approaches the bridge either by A) along the rail line or B) from your direction, taking the dirt road just after the stream, and driving around the the base of the rise. Travelers are permitted to take either route, stopping only at the bridge to be inspected / pay a small "security and transportation" tax.


This message was last edited by the GM at 07:03, Sun 15 Nov 2015.

Before I post anything IC, there's  couple of things I'd like to discuss:

1) Is it possible to incapacitate the radio by shooting the mast out?

If so we might be able to get away with bribing our way across and then taking the mast out. Given that as soon as the unit misses a radio check Malbork will probably assume it's us anyway this might buy us as much time as taking the whole unit out.

Of course, I people want a fight, we can go for it.

2) Given that the reluctant partisan has a point and our tendency to bring death and destruction to those that help us, might it be wise to ask the partisan boss to take us somewhere else to avoid bringing our luck on our helpers?

@Cymon/ Rae, no worries. I'd forgotten that Billy had been hit and was going from MSG 252 which had him as uninjured.

Having looked at the tactical situation does anyone think that just paying the bribe and being on our way is a good idea? It will cost us in terms of what we have to pay and they'll likely be right on the radio to Malbork after we've passed through (and is also probably a less exciting option from an ooc point of view) but it should be the best way in terms of not taking any further casualties.

We can try and take down the radio mast but they're not going to know we only want to target the mast so might think they are under attack and fall back to the bunker. I think we need to look at ways of how we can take down that bunker...

We could try a false flag again. That partially worked at Rybina in that it got us in amongst them before it kicked off. They might be alert to a bunch of pretend Soviets / East Germans driving a BTR with distinctive nose art but we scored a couple of Polish uniforms at Rybina (@Fuse, MSG139/141 refers, although it just says uniforms (plural) so don't know how many). If we could borrow some horses from the Poles we could pretend to be Polish Cavalry and try and bluff our way into the bunker ("we are here on routine inspection from Malbork" that sort of thing).

Another option might be to get some gear from the partisans and some of us rock up in the Iltis and a couple of horses borrowed from the partisans disguised as civies. I think that we have plenty of booze so we could offer to share it with them and try to wangle an invite back to the house to have a "party". Ferro and Riedel could smile at them. A lot. Hopefully that lures out whoever is in the bunker. And then when we whack them all.

Both of those options may be a bit complex (not to mention dull for those not involved), so I'm open to suggestions as to how a full scale assault might work.

Could we show up in the PTS-M and be mistaken for engineers?
This message was last edited by the player at 11:06, Sun 15 Nov 2015.

In reply to Lukas Fischer (msg # 272):

We could try. I guess the risk would be that the Sovs on the other side of the river have been screaming to everyone that has a radio about what's just gone down. If they mention a PTS getting taken in one of those transmissions and the militia pick up on it we could be screwed.

On a completely separate tack.

Some of the partisans are relatively lightly armed. Do we want to offer them a couple of AKM's from our stash?

How about sending a 'traveling party' first, appearing as merchants and paying the toll with vodka/spirits.  Then observe and once they hit the sauce (hopefully at dusk/dark), we take out the mast with precision fires, roll in the rest of the unit and continue on our way, not really stopping to engage in a pitched battle.  Rely on darkness, perhaps some smoke, return fire, and the vodka to throw off their aim as we cruise through.

Of if we are committed to taking them out, we have at least prepped the objective with the vodka.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:44, Sun 15 Nov 2015.

The travelling party might be an option or we could send the partisans through with a sniper or two and an RTO.

We also have the mortar and over a dozen rounds. We could shoot out the radio and drop a few rounds then call for surrender as an option whilst having the dismounts in a position ready to assault under cover of the BTR and BMP's guns.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 276):

A double prong attack in which Alan and possibly another person to cover him disarm the bomb before we roll up. With it out of the way they have no ace card to play and I think would be more likely to surrender.

if they have not kept the vegetation down along the river they might have enough cover to sneak up ?

1) Impossible... too skinny. A powerful explosion might knock it down though.

2) These are the only two bridges in the area, so you are fairly restricted to what you can do.




Some of the partisans are relatively lightly armed. Do we want to offer them a couple of AKM's from our stash?

You can donate an AKM if you'd like. They were expecting some of the spoils anyways, not half, just some.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:17, Sun 15 Nov 2015.

This seems like quite a good idea to me.


According to the stores thread we currently have nine AKM's. I'm happy to give the partisans two to three of those and 200 rounds of ammunition (which still leaves us over 800 rounds). Whilst I understand that they have trade value in Gdansk, we have to get back to Gdansk first. Personally, if a partisan is going to be covering my back I'd rather s/he had an AKM than a 9mm pistol.

Does anyone have any objections to that?

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 279):

No I say donate, they do no good sitting in the back of the BMP.

Sounds like a force multiplier to me. Go for it.

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No objections.  When we have time, Fischer can help train the partisans on basic weapon handling and marksmanship skills if they need it.

Sounds like a plan. Sabine can give them some first aid training at the same time. Can include any Mad Dogs who wish to get a refresher as well.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 279):

Donate

I am for donating too. But I am unsure of the plan. Maybe I am reading it wrong but it sounds like 2 different attacks?

I don't think there is a plan at the minute to be honest, just options for discussion.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 286):

Oh ok... whoops.

I'm not too sure about an attack IMO. I'm liking the false flag or merchant group diversion. I'm fine with whatever though and will support the call that's made.

The more I look at attack options the worse thy get. All that we risk is another fight that loses men and materiel and it slows us up if there is any pursuit.

We have to assume that the enemy will assume we've crossed even if we take the unit as they'll miss a radio check and are likely to draw conclusions. I'd suggest we pay up the bribe and assume that they'll report us anyway. Attacking the bunker will be tough and if I was the commander I'd have someone on the trigger any time people approached so even a false flag operation is likely to end up with a blown bridge.

I would counsel getting over and consolidating and then trying to get to the fuel. After that we have a lot to talk about over how we are going to get back to Gdansk, retracing our steps doesn't seem feasible and at the moment I don't see any good options.

I'm not sure if this will change your thoughts on the matter, but I want to clarify the mine, which is apparently an aircraft UXO (bomb).

It's not on the bridge, it's shy of the bridge. Setting it off will create a large crater but the bridge will not be damaged. It's meant as a deterrent for traffic, as you will need to drive over it to get onto the bridge.

It's buried under the gravel and tracks. Defusing it subtly is therefore not possible.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:11, Mon 16 Nov 2015.

OK, so the plan to have Little defuse the mine sounds like a non starter...

I also agree that a full on assault does not seem like a good option. To my mind it's likely to lead to one of several things - either we kill them all before they get the word out, in which case their absence will be noted when they miss a radio check as Mark has referred to.

Or they get the word out whilst the firefight is going on which raises the potential problem of them being reinforced by the mob from earlier - I don't fancy taking that lot on again at this precise minute in time.

Whereas if we bribe them we can be on our way (assuming they don't double cross us, but one has to assume that double crossing people looking to pay them to use the bridge would be bad for their business). Yes, they'll likely tell Malbork, but frankly I don't see any way of Malbork not finding out what we're up to. My only worry is how big the bribe will be.

That said, I'm also happy to try and take in a disguised team, whether that be merchants or Pact troops. If we can get into the bunker we should be able to take all of them. But the challenge will be getting into the bunker.

One thing - if we are bribing them we may not want to rock up team handed to start with - if they see all of our armour bearing down on them they might get spooked.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:23, Mon 16 Nov 2015.

Somebody sent me this purely by coincidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlATOHGj9EY

Check it out at the 45 second mark

That's funny!

Things are going to go quick with McCarthy and the crossing, so I'm not going to distract the rest of the group with anything. I know that's leaving you to come up with something in this turn yourself, but I hope in this case it's alright. I just don't want to complicate the crossing or tie you up. Things will move quickly.

Riedel and Cassidy went round everyone last turn to see what medical assistance may be required. Whilst no one (except Babicevs, who specifically addressed Riedel) was mentioned by name everyone was offered treatment, so I read that as O'Brien has already had his leg looked at by a medic (Msg 465 refers).

Do you want someone to have another look at it? If so just say and I'll send Riedel over.

In reply to Sabine Riedel (msg # 294):

Ok I read that a little different, but if he was looked at I will change my post. Cheers

Ok, turn is up, and I moved you and the story on. Sorry if that last bridge was disappointing. After the last, lengthy, and costly battle, I didn't want this one to be challenging... but I had a hard time making it interesting.

Here is a description of the layout. There are three buildings/sections on each side of the clearing.

- The first and most noticeable building is an old style country home, complete with a roof made of a thick layer of hay. The wood siding looks to have come from no less than five different sources, but it's all been been given a uniform coat of white paint to give it a slightly natural look. Smoke rises from a chimney built of salvaged metal air ducts. The windows are without glass, but covered by shutters. For a post-war home, which are typically of the shanty sort, this one is rather impressive. Care and skilled hands went into it's construction, despite the random materials that it's assembled from.

- Next is pair of commercial camping trailers (aka caravans), small enough to be moved easily by automobile or horse. They'd be a tight fit for even just two occupants and neither appears to have any sort of heating for the winter months. There is a car parked between them, but it doesn't look like it runs anymore, nor does it have any tires. A goat is tethered to one, while deer pelts hang from a clothesline.

- Further in is some sort of barn or greenhouse, constructed of a timber frame lashed together with rope, and covered by mismatched tarps and a few sheets of plywood. Piles of hay are heaped along one of the sides, while the other has a near stack of chopped firewood. A UAZ-469 is parked here, but like the automobile, it doesn't look like it runs anymore. Behind the structure, in the trees a little, is a well constructed bunker. It's covered in a layer of logs and a thick layer of packed dirt. Sandbags line the sides and narrow entryway.

- On the other side of the clearing are three sections of connected US Army modular tent. The entrance and window flaps are closed and secured by their toggles. An American field kitchen-trailer is beside the tent, partially covered over with green parachute, along with several large buckets. Tubs with drying dishes are set out along the side of the tent.

- Lastly, there's a long A-frame cottage, much of which looks like it has been made with locally cut timber, but given a real door from another house. This one has a stovepipe as well, and it too is pumping out a steady column of wood smoke. Beside the cottage is the VW van and a stick fence corral for the horses.
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:25, Sun 22 Nov 2015.

@Corkman, can you advise here if Frank would have taken a smoke from Kessler so I can update my inventory accordingly?

Thanks

Sorry, no to a smoke

What's the plan guys?

Plan? We have a plan?

Only kidding. Plan is still a bit of a work in progress, and takes into account the number of wounded, so Mark may want to chip in, but in broad strokes (some of this may cover more than one turn, some may cover less than one turn, hence the work in progress).

Medical Detachment
Riedel, Cassidy (NPC)
Administer any follow on treatment the WIA require
Set up a clinic for the partisans
Arrange a first aid class for the partisans (plus any Mad Dogs that want to attend, subject to me rereading the rules about how many students can be taught by one instructor)

@Fuse, just a gentle reminder that I still need to get the details of whatever medical supplies Wilson had.

Maintenance Detachment
Fischer, Ferro, Krupp (NPC), Marshall (NPC)
Get the Iltis up and running - Fischer / Ferro
Assess condition of Humvee - Fischer / Ferro
Tracked vehicle maintenance (PTS / Krankenwagen) - Krupp / Marshall
BTR maintenance - Krupp / Marshall

WIA
Benucci, Babicevs, O'Brien, Mulcahy (NPC)?
Light duties pending medical assessment (i.e. general security / anything else you can think of)

Miscellaneous (basically everyone not wounded or covered above)
McCarthy, Kessler, Little, Aleksandar (NPC), Anna (NPC), Lines (NPC)
Dig a grave for Wilson
Review current equipment levels
General security
Anything else we can think of.

Wilson will be buried at sunset, at which point a memorial service will be held for all of the fallen.

I think that covers everyone except Meyer / Janku and the civilians. If anyone has any suggestions feel free to chip in - Fischer had mentioned arranging small arms instructions for the partisans. As always if you don't like the assignment your pc has been given yell and we'll try and accommodate changes.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:55, Mon 23 Nov 2015.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 300):

***** Medical Trauma Kit *****

-Surgical Tools x1 Set
-Diagnosis & Minor Care Tools x1 Set
-Sedatives (Strong) x1 doses
-Sedatives (Mild) x3 doses
-Opiates/Sedative (Mild) x5 doses
-Anesthetic (Total) (Ketamine) x1 units
-Anesthetic (Local) (Lidocaine) x2 units
-Pain reliever (Paracetamol) x 10 doses
-Antibiotics x1 doses
-Antifever x1 doses
-I.V. saline, 100ml bag w/tubing x2 units
-Atropine Autoinjectors x20 units
-Field Dressings (prewar sterile) x6 units
-Field Dressings (postwar clean) x9 units
-Miscellaneous items* x7 units

*Bandaids, compresses, gauze, sutures, antiseptic, etc. Used for scratch and slight wounds.

LIST REPEATED BELOW
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:52, Thu 26 Nov 2015.

I'm good with all of Dave's suggestions. Burial service will be at sunset and we'll get a night's sleep before heading on.

If anyone wants they can RP trading whatever we have for food and winter clothes if we can. Give the partisans good prices.

That'll give 1 full 4 hour period, plus enough hours to get everyone back up to 'rested' status.