If you look to the upper right corner of the RPOL menu you'll see a link for "Game Wiki". We have one now. I figured this game has gotten so full of places, names, events, etc, that it would be good to have it all down in a structured format that's easy to look things up. Heffe and I have been working on it for a couple weeks now. I think it'll be very helpful.

It's not complete, but nearly there, which means you might find some blank pages. In a few other places the info may just be copy/pasted from game text so it still needs to be formatted into a proper "wiki-style" layout.

Big thanks to Heffe for doing most of the work.

Suggestions welcome. Contributions welcome too.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:44, Sun 12 May 2019.

Map is updated.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 1):

I've only glanced at the game wiki but it's a fantastic idea. Thanks for Fuse and Heffe for doing this.

With contributions can we edit ourselves or do we need to submit something and for one of you to post it?

Regarding the missing manpack radio, did the vehicles return to base? If they didn't and one of the drivers has a radio then they could potentially be a relay point to pass messages along.

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 4):

The plan was for the Humvees to return to base after dropping off the patrol so they’re no help with in resolving the radio problem.

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 3):

You'll need to submit it unfortunately.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 5):

Thanks for confirming - it's a pity as I thought that I'd had a bright idea! :)

They're very few and far between.......

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In reply to Fusilier (msg # 6):

No worries and thanks for confirming.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 1):
I like it!

OK, I think consenus is to check out the campsites fist and leave the village until later (if at all).

I'd rather not tell people what to do so if you can say whether you want your pc to be in the scout team (going closer to the campsite) or the overwatch team (self explanatory).

This time round Kessler will stay with the overwatch team.

Jose will stay with the overwatch team as well this time around.

I was thinking that Per should pull over-watch again- his primary weapon is well-suited to the role, and his 6/16 UMA score could come in handy if we get the chance to subdue someone on the trail.

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In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 9):

I'm happy for Jan to go where you want him.

Regarding the wiki, I think it’s a permissions thing - the permission to create a new page in the wiki looks like the same one that grants rights to delete entire threads in game. I think we should be able to edit existing pages though, just not create new pages. I would say that if you want to create a new page, just msg Fuse, then once he makes it you should be able to edit it all you want. At the end of the day, the wiki is supposed to be for everyone, so if you have ideas, please throw em out there!

Map is updated.

So to reflect the tactical situation, please refrain from OOC discussion on what to do. Like your characters you can't exactly plan things out. Not unless you want to risk detection anyway. Check the map to see how the two people will move along the trail in respect to where your PCs are set up. They'll pass one pair of Mad Dogs before the other. If you need clarification just ask.

It's a long holiday weekend where I live so I'll be out of comms for the next few days.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 16):

Enjoy!

Doing anything special?

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 16):

Argh! What a cliffhanger you're leaving us on!

;)

Relax and enjoy, Fuse. You've definitely earned a GM break.

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Spent a little time updating the game map this afternoon to include some more locations based on the information from the wiki. I wasn’t sure which icons were supposed to be used for which types of locations, so I just did my best. :) Feel free to change the icons or edit descriptions as needed. Or if it feels overly cluttered, we can delete them too.
This message was last edited by a game editor at 00:20, Wed 22 May 2019.

Ended up adding a bunch more locations to the game map today, but I’d like everyone’s thoughts. Are the new additions helpful at all, or do you all think they just clutter things up? Adding everything was super fast, so if we want to just delete the newly added ones it’s not like any time was wasted.

I don't think it's too cluttered. Separating them as they have been helps.

On a different note I'm having second thoughts as to the people in the forest. I was convinced they were bandits at first but not anymore. Anyone else think that way?

In reply to Ferro (msg # 21):

I can't decide. It just seems strange, if they are the villagers, that they're camped out in the woods outside the ville. There's enough doubt in my mind, however, that I've consistently pushed to confirm their identity, despite the fact that it would be easier and less risky for the Mad Dogs just to assault the campsite, no questions asked.

Speaking of risky, I hope Fuse is able to resolve the current turn soon. The suspense is really getting to me.

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In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 22):

I got back today. Turn will be up tomorrow night.

Fuse,

Are you Ok with us discussing the situation in the village and forest camp at a macro level? I have some potential theories but I wasn't sure if you were happy for us to discuss them in the OOC as it might impact immediate tactical responses to the current situation.

Ta,

Andy

I'd rather you wait a little.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 25):

Thanks Fuse. Some clarification about the newcomer, is he/she to our southeast along the path?

Yes, southeast, where the trail ends/meets the road, just inside or behind the trees a little which is why they were hard to see until they moved. And just to clarify a little, they may not be a newcomer, in the sense that they might have been there the whole time. Or maybe not.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:31, Thu 23 May 2019.

Ahhhh cool! Love the backstory intrigue, Dave.

In reply to Jose Rodriguez (msg # 28):

I bet Walsh knew Clarence Milk from Twilight Cruise (my defunct PotV campaign). Fuse and I have established some links between our respective T2KU's. One was Damian the River Pimp (an NPC I created and first introduced in my campaign). The other is Jan Czerny, originally a PC in same.

@All: I'm going to be AFK for the Memorial Day weekend.

@Fuse: If you need to advance the turn, please feel free to do so. Per's next priority is to remove the two assault rifles from the trail and recover his own longarm- all as quickly and as stealthily as possible.

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Dave,

Just to double check, I presume that the conversation between Chris and JJM is happening in private? Or can Reggie have overheard it?

Ta,

Andy
This message was last edited by the player at 10:34, Fri 24 May 2019.

In reply to Reggie Grant (msg # 30):

I left that intentionally vague so I’d say that it’s up to each individual whether they heard it or not.

In reply to Chris Walsh (msg # 31):

OK - I'll ponder on whether Reggie would have been listening in.

Ta,

Andy.

There's some good memories there...

Sad that I didn’t know about all the t2k goodness happening on rpol until recently. Took a peek at the cruise game - looks like it was a lot of fun.

In reply to Jose Rodriguez (msg # 28):

Thanks man. The whole MilGov / CivGov split tends to be an area that rarely comes up so I figured it would be cool to explore it a bit.

Was there specific material you used?

In reply to Henry 'Hank' Voight (msg # 36):

Not really. Fuse and I pretty much worked it out between us. If you go through Walsh’s previous posts there are multiple hints / subtle references to it - search any of the game threads for Orion or Woijech and you’ll find some of them.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:22, Sat 25 May 2019.

In reply to Chris Walsh (msg # 37):

Is Orion part of the game canon?

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 38):

Well, Fuse signed off on it. I never really thought of it in terms of a game canon to be honest. It was meant to put a twist into my PC’s backstory and introduce the idea of open conflict between the two rival American intelligence agencies (which is part of T2K canon).

Ah, OK.  Wasn't sure of the source.  It looked like an interesting read being the issues behind both intelligence agencies.

In reply to Chris Walsh (msg # 39):

I'm just sure I've heard the name Orion before. Maybe it was from your posts though.......

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 41):

It was used in another (now defunct) game at one point so is a retread of that - given that it was me that came up with it in that game I didn’t think it was unreasonable to retread my own idea... (fwiw in Greek mythology Orion was the Hunter, which is the rationale behind it).

If it exists in official T2K canon anywhere else I’m unaware of it so any resemblance is coincidental.

Now that you mention the other game, I kind of recall it a little bit.

Witold Pilecki Detachment
A former Polish Home Army unit whose members were secretly selected and trained by DIA/US Army Special Forces during the lead up to the Summer Offensive. Intended to directly assist allied forces with combat operations, they were subsequently abandoned during the evacuation, despite efforts to extract them. Also left behind were their sister detachments, Emil August Feldorf Detachment and Leopold Okulicki Detachment. Not long ago the WPD commander was assassinated in a bombing that has fueled suspicion and local conspiracy theories.

Could be related. Retaliation maybe.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:32, Mon 27 May 2019.

ALL elements are back together now, correct?

Fuse, please add the two captured AKs and ammo to company stores (I just remembered to mention them in my IC post). Thanks

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In reply to Henry 'Hank' Voight (msg # 45):

That's my understanding at least. Though we should probably consider putting out another OP til morning assuming we have anyone rested enough to do so.

Hey everyone. I'm heading out on vacation starting tomorrow through June 7th, so my posting might be limited. I'll try to keep up on mobile, but my post quality may be impacted. If I'm unable to post for whatever reason, Fuse, please feel free to NPC Jose.

In reply to Jose Rodriguez (msg # 48):

Enjoy!

I hope that you're going somewhere interesting. Or relaxing. Whatever's your preference.

In reply to Jose Rodriguez (msg # 48):

Enjoy!

While we're on the subject, I'll be travelling Monday 03 June - Saturday 22 June inclusive. I'll try and keep up as best as I can but my free time / internet access may be limited so I can't rule out extended periods of silence.

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 49):

Thanks! Heading to a theme park with the kids on Friday, then down to San Diego to spend some time with the in-laws. Not sure that's interesting or relaxing (haha!), but at least it's a change of pace. :)

Dave, hope your travel goes well, regardless if it's a work trip or holiday.
This message was last edited by a game editor at 23:37, Wed 29 May 2019.

Thanks man. A work trip for me - would much rather be headed for SoCal.

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OK, what I’m thinking is something along these lines

• We try and get our two new guests to agree to try and negotiate a face to face with the KR leadership (or at least the ones that aren’t sick)

• We offer to assist the community. I’m thinking that can be 1) medical assistance – Grant can take the lead on that but ultimately we may have to seek further assistance from St Mary’s – after all it’s in their (St Mary’s) interest to know what’s going on here in case it spreads) and 2) military assistance – take out the WA band at the lagoon side and try and rescue the two child hostages (I know that’s got an element of risk attached)

• If we succeed there’s a chance we end up with a) somewhere safe to stash the Humvees and b) some already built rafts so we can revisit our previous discussion about going after the main group on the other side of the lagoon

Also, please presume that Kessler will share everything covered in the turn post even if not explicitly mentioned in my post (I don’t want to copy and paste the whole thing)

I approve of this plan 100%.

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In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 52):

Sounds good.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 52):
Sounds. Good to me as well

I think the plan sounds great. Do we want to head there at dawn?

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 56):

Ideally I think we should leave just before dawn so that we get there at first light.

If anyone else wats to be in on the negotiating team speak up IC. If we have to we can send both Hummers back.

We already need both Humvees to move the Katy delegation (including both ex-prisoners).

For the diplomatic mission, I propose the following. It sidelines some players, but it keeps things fairly simple. Hopefully, we can wrap up IC negotiations quickly, getting everyone else back into the mix in short order.

Humvee #1 ('Old' Humvee) - Scout
Ferro - driver
Kolstrup - vehicle commander / SNCO
Walsh - grenade launcher*
Rodriguez - Anti Armour (SM-2 Koncerz)
Anna (NPC) (removed to make room for passengers)
Two Kilo Romeo guests

Humvee #2 ('New' Humvee aka Frankenhumvee) -  Command
Voight - driver
McCarthy - vehicle commander / CO
Grant – Medic
Babicevs – gunner**
Krysia (NPC)- I assume she will want to accompany us as Island liaison.
+Gustek

*Hasn't volunteered or been tasked so slot could be shifted to someone else.

**Since Per's already going, I'm fine with someone else taking Varis' slot. Rodriguez, maybe?

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This message was last edited by the player at 22:05, Sun 02 June 2019.

As much as I would like to be more active with a new player, I wouldn't imagine being overly helpful with the negotiating team at this time.  His limited background doesn't seem like he might be helpful, especially that he's wounded, other than driving and maybe trying to collect some Intel on a limited basis.

Not complaining at all, just stating what I think to be accurate.

Rodriguez is cool to hang back on this one to help watch the fort. See you guys soon!

Billy is happy to stay or go if they need a driver now or someone on the MG.

One thing that Jan brought up a while ago - did the name Nadim get mentioned to the villagers? It's less important now thank I thought as they appear to be friendly but I just wondered if we'd found out who this was.

Mark - is JJM speaking English or Polish in your latest IC post to Wojcik? I just want to double check what Reggie is understanding.

Ta,

Andy

He's speaking Polish.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 66):

Ta.

I was slow getting my latest turn up but I ought to be able to shoot for Monday night being the next turn post.

I think the next step is getting some more detailed directions to the WA group's current whereabouts. Then perhaps we should wait until nightfall and hit them.

It sounds like the prisoners swap is a long-shot. If we contact the WA to begin negotiations, they know we are in the area. IMHO, it's best we keep the element of surprise and use it to try to free the boys by force.

Thoughts?

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In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 69):

I think any kind of negotiations or talks are just going to slow the process down, delay what we want to do, and/or, work against what we said we wanted to do.  We should take some heed in to what Filip told us about the WA.

Strike swiftly and totally on what we have available trying to end it quickly.

I’d be in favor of an assault as well. We (you guys) already saw what the WA guys were capable of at the Twins. These are fanatics, and I have a hard time thinking that they’d negotiate anything in good faith.

I think that a surprise assault, making maximum use of our superior firepower and without any recognition of the WA's prisoners, is the best option. If we attempt any negotiation with them for the prisoners then we indicate that they are important and valuable to us. Therefore I think that just opening fire and killing as many of the WA people as quickly as possible is the best strategy. The two orphans they have prisoner are from the village and with our level of firepower it will be clear that we aren't from the village so should they try to use their prisoners as bargaining chips we can just play dumb, rendering them irrelevant. Hopefully that logic makes sense as it seems to give the two prisoners the greatest chance of survival.

We're probably on the same page, but to clarify, I'm thinking more of a hostage-rescue op, where we reconnoiter the camp, locate the two boys, then plan a surprise assault that eliminates the WA while minimizing risk to the hostages.

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That works as well, kind of what I was imagining.  Eliminating the whole threat there though

In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 73):

I'm happy with a hostage rescue op but the stealth required for that means that we can't really bring the vehicles in to play initially.

We should also try to find out how long these two boys have been prisoners. They could already be brainwashed to be part of the WA and active members if enough time has passed.

I agree. Once the hostages are free, we eliminate the rest of the WA group.



That's a good point. Someone should ask.

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I was going to reply to Jose's comment but, I see that he changed it to Jan.

In reply to Henry 'Hank' Voight (msg # 77):

Hank isn't with Jose - he's with the group that went to the village:

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I'm going to have Jan go with Jose to investigate the tracks but who else would like to come along IC? Dave is still away in RL so I'll just narrate Jan reporting in via the radio to Kessler and getting everyone on alert but I think that the only other PCs at the brick factory are Billy and Tom. Do either or both of them want to come along?

Ta,

Andy
This message was last edited by the player at 09:25, Tue 11 June 2019.

Fuse - further to Jan's question IC to Jose - do we know when it last snowed?

Ta,

Andy

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 78):
Understood.  I was saying that Jose had mentioned me in his post first, edited it, and then put Jan's name.  I'm guessing it was a mistake.  By the time I went to reply to it, it was corrected.  That's all I was saying.

In reply to Henry 'Hank' Voight (msg # 80):

Ah, ok. Apologies for any misunderstanding.

In reply to Henry 'Hank' Voight (msg # 80):

Yep, this is correct. I had originally thought Hank was back at the factory before Fuse pointed out to me that he was not, so I ended up changing Hank to Jan in the post. Sorry for any confusion that was caused.

It's because you can't reply to it. Hank is nowhere near Jose and everyone else at the factory. Likewise, I deleted the post regarding him reacting to Jose/Andropov's dialogue because he isn't with them.

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 79):
Yes. I mention all weather changes either in the heading or text. It stopped last night.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:57, Tue 11 June 2019.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 83):

Thanks for the info.

@All: I'm very keen to carry on, but I'm holding off on posting IC because neither of my PCs are privy to the negotiations.

Fuse, does Jan's radio have the range to reach the Humvees? Thanks.

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No, he doesn't.

Fuse,

Am I right in thinking that we can't use the 501 road to get past KR due to the obstacles placed on the road by the villagers? If that's right I presume the we need to use the forest road to bypass the village? Is that correct

I think that we need to do the following next:

 - Move from the brick factory to somewhere else. Exactly where I'm not sure so we need to work this out.

 - Rest up in a new location for a few hours at least to let the fatigue levels recover.

 - Perform routine maintenance on Alpha to check the source of the oil leak.

 - Potentially forage for food if we have enough people who aren't resting or on guard duty.

Any thoughts from anyone?

Ta,

Andy

I think time is of the essence. We need to move from the brick factory ASAP, and decide what to do with the bandit prisoners (take them with us? Or...). And we probably need to make the strike on the WA before they’re able to make it across the lagoon, which means we may not have the luxury to take on those other tasks before we attack them.

I think you're right, there won't be time to do everything we want to.

To be honest, given how tired everyone is, I don't think a stealth mission is even realistic. In reality the best we could hope for was find the contact and use overwhelming firepower to destroy the enemy. Anywhere near a fair fight is going to see us taking casualties we don't have to.

I don't see the point of losing men to try and save kids that the villagers obviously don't care about. If they survive it's a bonus but a stealth mission will rely on people that are already knackered and sideline the players that have been sidelined for a long time.

If people want to be white hats and conduct a hostage rescue, we will of course do it, I just think it's unrealistic given the situation.

In reply to Jose Rodriguez (msg # 88):

Good points.

Fuse, the weather is described as "Partly Cloudy, -10^oC" but how windy is it? If I was going to try to cross a lagoon on rafts when the temperature is -10^oC I'd want the wind to be minimal.

Thinking about this further how frozen will the lagoon be? At -10^oC how thick will the ice be? Will it be enough to walk on in a lagoon or would the movement of the water prevent it freezing? My hope is that a Canadian can help explain things to a Brit who lives in a country where six inches of snow can bring the country to a standstill...... :)

It would be helpful if we had a better idea of how much time we had. What is "soon"? Are the bandits leaving in a couple of hours, or in day or two? Can we get an IC flashback to gain a bit more specificity?

If it's the latter, then I think we should spend the day sleeping at the factory, then hit the WA at night. The WA sound pretty sloppy and we have the advantage of NOD's and night ops experience.

If the factory gets raided while we rest, then the whole rescue op is moot. But I don't think we can move camp and get enough rest in the remaining period of daylight.

I really don't like the idea of hitting the WA camp with indiscriminate firepower. I'm not proposing an elaborate, SAS-style hostage rescue op. I am suggesting that we do just enough recon to determine where the children are being held and then avoiding, as much as possible, shooting it up when we attack. I don't think that the "villagers obviously don't care about" the kids. I think the villagers are jaded and feel helpless and therefore come across as fatalistically resigned to the fact of their kidnapping. If we get them back alive, I think it will open doors with KR.

@Andy: Of course, Fuse has final say on this, but I reckon there's not much ice- clearly not enough to walk on- if the WA are going to the trouble of building rafts.

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There's very little wind. It's been pretty calm lately, despite the snowfall.

There's no ice, none significant anyway, just a little along the shore and even that couldn't support a person. It's still too early in the season.

I'm afraid the villagers aren't aware of the details like that. All they know is that the bandits are constructing a means to cross. Assuming two or three days to do something like that, maybe four if they aren't rushed, then they might be done tomorrow morning. In that case you have just under 24 hours, call it 20.

It's also possible they may be done today, but there's not enough daylight left and it's unlikely anyone would bother with a night crossing unless they were under pressure. So even this worse case scenario gives you that same 20 hours above.

If they've had trouble with their efforts you might get an extra day, but that's really just wishful thinking at this point.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:44, Thu 13 June 2019.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 93):

Thanks.

Based on that info, I think my/Per's plan has a good chance of working.

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So, is the consensus to relocate to KR. Rest for the day as Tom checks the Humvee and then send a recce team out in the night?

If it is, I can get an IC post up. What else do you want to include in the orders?

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 95):

I think the only question is whether we move and then rest, or rest and then move. For the recce, I'm not sure if we want to send a scouting party up first while others are in KR, or if we do a recce in force to locate the WA camp before having a small team locate the exact location of the boys.

In reply to Jose Rodriguez (msg # 96):

I agree that we should move sooner rather than later but I think Andropov should have a look at the leaky Humvee first and make sure that it can make it to KR.

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In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 97):

Agreed. We basically have to weigh the risk of mechanical breakdown against potential attack. I’m fine either way we decide.

In reply to Jose Rodriguez (msg # 98):

Exactly. That's why Andropov should have a look first. It's not far to KR, so if there's still enough oil in the Humvee to make it there, then I say we move toot suite. It should take like 5 minutes tops just to check the levels. If it's dangerously low, we'll need to stay at the factory long enough to fix it. Folks can still rest while the needed repairs are underway.

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In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 99):

Sounds like a plan.

Just to put my two-pennyworth in, I'm concerned with any stealth mission against the WA because of their numbers and the need to keep vehicles well back because they will be heard otherwise. I'm not against doing it and am happy to go with it as that seems to be the consensus but I think that a rapid assault in our vehicles to make maximum use of our firepower is the safer option for us. Granted it's not the safer option for the two prisoners the WA are holding but I don't think that freeing them is going to make the KR villagers open up. They are a classic T2k isolationist community and they just want to be left alone by everyone. I will be delighted to be proved wrong but that's my reading of previous interaction with them.

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On a separate note are we going to ask about the wounded Canadian prisoner in KR? That bit of intel strikes me as weird as the KR villagers don't seem like the kind of people who want to keep prisoners so there must be an important reason.

I'm going to stick to my guns on this one. Neither Per nor, to a slightly lesser extent, Varis, are going to go along with an indiscriminate assault on a camp where two innocent kids are being held.

Our current intel indicates that this WA group is neither large nor well-equipped, and they sound sloppy as well. They clearly don't fear KR and they probably don't know that we are in the AO.

Therefore, I think the chances of sneaking up on them are pretty good. We should at least try. We can still have the BTR on standby in case resistence is heavier than expected.

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If a decision isn't ready yet for a plan of attack that's fine. But if I can at least get IC posts on what happens in the interim, such as moving camp now or going later, I can move things forward a bit while the other stuff is still being worked out.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:07, Sun 16 June 2019.

My online access has been restricted to two minutes here and there on a phone for the last couple of weeks. I'm hoping that it should be a little more regular going forward, although I am still travelling so won't be able to post normally for at least another week.

That said, apologies if I'm rehashing ground what's already been covered, but I'm inclined to prefer some sort of stealth recon mission before launching any sort of full scale assault. In the first place it may give us more intel on the enemy - including any possible anti armour capacity that they have (I think it would be foolhardy to just assume we can walk all over them if we hit them in force) and it might reveal the location of the two children, which in turn opens up more options - even if we can't mount a separate rescue we can at least try and minimise fire in that area to what's absolutely essential.

In short, my preferred option is stealth recon followed by an assessment of the situation with a view to either a) a full on assault while a snatch team tries to secure the kids or if that's not possible b) a full scale assault. All to take place this evening so people have a chance to rest. In the meantime we should deal with vehicle maintenance and make sure sentries are posted (on a rotational basis so everyone has a chance to rest). I don't think we need to worry about foraging for extra food yet.

Also, Andy, re the Canadian, Kessler made checking his status a priority (IC Msg735) and Grant was specifically tasked to deal with it so that should have been covered (or at least attempted) during the meet?
This message was last edited by the player at 09:34, Sun 16 June 2019.

Mark, there’s an integral battery charger aboard the BTR. Tegyrius included it as part of the initial loadout. As long as we have the BTR we have a battery charger.

Fuse, this has come up before. If you really need me to find the posts about it I can but they’re four years old so it will take a bit of hunting.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 105):

No, that's ok. Besides, if you have time for the game (I know it's limited) I'd rather you get to spend it posting or something other than looking stuff up. I seem to remember it anyway.

Alpha is fit to drive upon being checked by Andropov. Oil level is low but still alright to travel.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:20, Mon 17 June 2019.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 106):

Yeah, I have a solid WiFi connection in the Hotel so I should be able to keep up some level of posting while I’m here.

This doesn't appear to have been covered in the meeting.

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Re the "kids", please remember that they are probably teenage boys and they are probably being indoctrinated so it may be very hard to tell them apart from the WA.

Apologies - the confusion over chargers is partly my fault. Jan has the gear to set up a new  charger in a Humvee but we haven't done it yet. Jan raised it IC with Tom previously and we talked about doing it later, hence the confusion and people forgetting about the one on the BTR.

Sorry about this.

Andy

Based on this do we need to make it SOP that all radios and NODs are turned off unless we're away from the camp on an op? If we do then what about sentries?

Did anyone ask the headman how old they were or is that speculation?

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 111):

That is speculation based on logic. The WA don't need the prisoners to keep the villagers from attacking them. The villagers just want to be left alone and the WA are leaving. Therefore if you're taking prisoners I think that they're much more likely to be forced recruits, particularly if the WA are feeding them.

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 112):

Yep, that logic makes sense but I think it's already been established that the WA use child soldiers so I don't follow how you can draw a conclusion about the hostages' ages?

It would have been a good question to have asked the headman.

I think I’ve done the numbers properly for this schedule

1st Watch
Czerny
Babicevs
Andropov
O’Brien

2nd Watch
Fischer
Krysia
Price
Aleksandr

3rd Watch
Kessler
McCarthy
Gustek

4th Watch
Kolstrup
Ferro
Rodriguez
Walsh
Anna

I know the numbers don’t square but I’m not counting Anna as a full person on account of the fact she can’t raise the alarm.

Guarding the prisoners

1st shift
Voight
Grant

2nd shift
Kessler (I’ll volunteer to pull double duty)
Any other volunteer?

3rd shift
Voight
Grant

4th shift
Volunteers?

I realise Grant and Voight are also being asked (or, rather, told) to pull double duty but I don’t think either have been actively involved in much patrolling so I don’t think it’s unreasonable at this stage

At two hours on / six hours off that should give most people some down time and take us through to nightfall.

If anyone wants to suggest an alternative rota feel free. And if I've missed anyone I'm sorry.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:31, Tue 18 June 2019.

Well that depends on what you think of when you say "child soldiers". I think of someone who is at least about 12 years old but I'm probably thinking too old.

Remember that the WA have food issues so any recruit is going to have to pull their weight rapidly. I would suggest that that means that the two orphans are a bit older but, once again, that's an educated guess at best.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 114):

Jan will take the 4th shift guarding the prisoners.

Thanks for coming up with a duty roster/schedule, Dave.

May I suggest Krysia be added? I think it's only fair she pull her weight since presumably she's eating our food.

For the recon and assault of the WA camp, I am volunteering Per for the former and Varis for the latter. Of course, I imagine that the recce team will participate in the assault as well.

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In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 117):

No probs. Krysia is already there though (2nd Watch, aka the NPC shift)

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 118):

Oh shit. Sorry. Totally missed it (obviously).

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Do we have a SOP's thread or post? I thought we did, but I can't find one. I might be thinking of another game.

Anyway, I think an electronic shut-off protocol will help with NOD battery life, but we pretty much need our radios on all the time, or at least when the unit is split off, which is quite often.

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In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 120):

Agreed. That's why I suggested that we turn radios off when we're not away from the camp.

In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 120):

There is an SOP & Public notes thread, but it's been so long since anyone has posted in it that it's fallen to the bottom of the page (in between chapters 12 and 13). :) I would think we can probably continue using that if we have new SOPs that we want to adopt, or codify existing ones. While we're at it, we should probably add something about always making sure someone has a radio if they're out on patrol, each section should have a radio if we're split up more than usual, or ensure a long range radio is carried if we're venturing more than a couple miles from each other.

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Jose will participate in the assault in an AT capacity, but not in the recce (his stealth isn't great).

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 113):

Yeah I agree it would have. I guess I had already formed an image of them in my mind before we met with Filip so I overlooked it. I was just thinking about getting the guy to agree to cooperate really.

Fuse, can we assume that everyone gets to hear what JJ says so that they can add ideas/opinions if they want to? I'd rather we all had our say before plans are finalised as the final attack may have to happen without much consultation and Id rather know what risks people are willing to take beforehand.

Well, there's already 10 posts in with people doing things, so it's going to mess with the flow of time with a new bunch of posts happening before all that, or they get deleted and redone later.

What if we just let this turn go as it is, I move the turn up by a few hours, and then you have everyone assemble for group discussion? On my end I also won't push things too far that you don't have time for a proper planning and prep. What about that?
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:05, Wed 19 June 2019.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 125):

Sounds like a plan to me.

We probably want to agree a plan OOC first so we can start discussing it here.

I will have Per propose the following, once the IC planning conference is underway. Consider this a preview.

First, we need a staging area. I propose KR. The locals won't be thrilled, but they know what we're up to (i.e. they're already complicit), and they should recognize that no WA is going to mess with their village with a heavily-armed group nearby. We should arrive right around sunset. We'll make it clear that we're not there to stay, rather just to jump off on the rescue op. I think that the whole unit should go, so that we don't have to split ourselves further to guard the camp.

From the staging area, Per leads a recon patrol to the lagoon. I propose Per, Ferro, Jan, and Walsh (although Kessler's got the pertinent skills so it makes sense for him to go as well). They work their was around the lagoon, bearing roughly NE (as per the village hetman's report), until they find the WA raft-building camp. The recon teams observes and tries to locate the two child hostages. Once the recon team has a lay of the enemy position, it calls up the rest of the unit (on foot), with the BTR on standby back at KR in case we need heavy fire support/armored mobility. Once the assault element links up with the recon team, we sweep the camp, eliminate the WA and, hopefully, rescue the hostages.

Questions, suggestions, concerns?

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Just a heads up, I probably won’t be able to post again properly until Sunday.

A planning session sounds great.

I don't understand what you mean. I was asking about 'when'.

I was agreeing with your offer. Let the turn run as is and then I'll call a meeting after you've posted the next term.

Are the prisoners already there or, do we need to get them and bring them to the building?

In reply to Henry 'Hank' Voight (msg # 132):

Ferro and Jose dropped them off.

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Excellent!  Thank you.

It was most of the content in my second last post.

In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 127):

Firstly there are a couple of questions that we need to resolve:

 - Where in KR are you thinking that we set up? We've only been to the western side of the village so far and the main compound (including the museum and the transmission tower) is on the eastern side. It's quite probable that some of the village is abandoned now so we could potentially use another part of the village which is abandoned as a staging area.

 - Can we drive directly along the 501 to where/near to where the WA are building rafts? I think that the 501 is blocked with obstacles at points and our maps aren't good enough to guide us along any parallel roads. If we can't find this out then the recon team could potentially make their way parallel to the 501 to check it as an access route.

Secondly I think that your plan needs a slight tweak:

 - The firepower of the three vehicles is our biggest edge in a battle against the WA so we need to design a plan that uses it. If we attack with the bulk of the Mad Dogs on foot then we will have one medium machine gun and several grenade/rocket launchers as opposed to the two heavy machine guns and an automatic grenade launcher. Therefore rather than have the bulk of the Mad Dogs join the recon team on foot to then launch an assault I think that it would be best for them to come up in the vehicles, deliberately spooking the WA and starting to engage them with the vehicle weapons. The noise will probably prompt some of the WA to run but the recon team includes both snipers so they can pick off anyone either attempting to flee with the hostages or to harm them.

 - This presumes that while the recon team are looking for the hostages that they don't spot any heavy weapons or other AT capability that could threaten our vehicles.

Does that make sense as an amended plan?

Ta,

Andy

In reply to Ferro (msg # 135):

Jinny,

Please can I double check something from your second last IC post:

The underlining is my emphasis. Is this correct that Ferro has untied the prisoners and left them unsupervised in the cellar? And if that's correct has she told Reggie or Hank that she has untied them?


Reggie's understanding from this is that they are still securely tied up at the wrists as they have been since they were were initially captured.

Sorry for any confusion.

Ta,

Andy

I understand your reasoning, Andy. I'm all for force multipliers like infantry support weaponry, but in this case, I think it's probably overkill. Our intel strongly suggests that this group of WA is relatively small and not particularly well armed. Assuming that we can surprise them, HMG's and AGL's are probably not necessary. Secondly, I'm worried that heavy automatic fire (especially the exploding kind) will unnecessarily endanger the hostages. If this were the larger WA group- the one we've learned is east of the lagoon- then I would be all for using maximum firepower, but for this op, I think that we should exercise a little restraint.

Of course, I'm happy to defer to majority opinion here.

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If we can manage to save the hostages, we probably should. I think bringing the vehicles, even driving in quickly, will limit our ability to surprise the cultists. My vote would be to go in on foot.

In reply to Jose Rodriguez (msg # 139):

Yea, I was sacrificing surprise for force.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but the WA force we're talking of engaging is about 20 to 25 people strong. If that's right then I'm concerned about taking them on without vehicle support and only the BTR as backup. We are talking about deliberately putting ourselves in a situation where we're outnumbered. I still think that we could win that fight but I think that we'll take casualties in the process, which then impacts our capability to launch an operation against the bulk of the WA across the lagoon.

Do you see where I'm coming from?

Ta,

Andy

Absolutely, and it's a very valid concern. I'm not dismissing it. I just see us capable of taking on the threat without 3 vehicles. The way that I see it is that we have an elite force- the Mad Dogs- taking on a bunch of armed thugs/nutters. With our firepower, and the element of surprise*, we shouldn't need heavy weapons. We should have an edge in firepower just with our personal weapons.

*Which we risk losing by driving up on the camp.

Once we cross the canal, we'll only have the BTR as backup, so perhaps now is a good chance to operationally test that configuration. I think bringing the Humvees means losing at least 3 assaulters (the two drivers and two gunners- not counting Voight since he's not yet foot-mobile). Plus, if the WA camp is right on the shore, the vehicles might not be able to reach it anyway.

The BTR has a coax and the KPV. We can detach and bring the AGS-17 along as well. If we get into a pickle, we call in the armor. It can act as an ambulance too, if anyone is unlucky enough to get wounded.

Recon Team
Per
Ferro (please bring MP5SD)
Jan
Walsh or Kessler

Main Force
Kessler or Walsh
Rodriguez
O'Brien
Varis
Andropov
Price (is he with us?)

BTR
Fischer
NPC gunner (name?)
Voight
Grant
JJM

If Krysia wants in on the assault, she can go with the Main Force. If not, she can go in the BTR or stay at KR. Gustek should probably stay at KR, unless he's game to ride in the BTR. I recommend we leave our prisoners at KR.

I've marked proposed patrol routes for both the recon team and the vehicle/s on the game map.


@Fuse: Will you please mark the KR roadblock on the 501 on the map? Thanks.

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This message was last edited by the player at 16:41, Fri 21 June 2019.

In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 141):

Price is with us - he’s the NPC gunner you’re looking for a name for.

Aleksandr is also with us (NPC BTR driver) as is Anna.

Walsh has far better Stealth than Kessler.

I fully realise that we'll lose the element of surprise by using the vehicles (I stated it above a couple of times) but I'm still concerned that taking the WA on without the vehicles is a mistake. Unless anyone else starts to agree with me however I'll park my concerns as it's not constructive to continue with them.

In reality the recon of the WA position should give us some indication as to whether we need the vehicles or not.

Going through your groupings I think that the assignments are best as follows:

Recon Team
Kolstrup (team leader)
Ferro
Czerny
Walsh

Main Force
Kessler (team leader)
Rodriguez
O'Brien
Babicevs
Andropov
Price (M240 machine gun)
Aleksandr (loader for M240)
Krysia

BTR
McCarthy (commander)
Voight (driver)
Fischer (gunner)
Grant (medic)
Gustek (if he's coming)
Anna (if she's not staying to guard the Humvees)

I don't think that I've forgotten anyone but please say if I have.

Fuse - this is presuming that Volight's leg wound is still serious enough that he needs to stay in a vehicle. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Ta,

Andy

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 143):

I’m with Rae and Heffe. The downsides of bringing the vehicles outweigh the benefits.

Also, I’m not sure leaving Anna on her own is a good idea.

Sorry if my posts are a bit abrupt btw. I’m currently phone posting while watching the cricket.

Or rather, not watching the cricket...

Very true. We don't really have to decide on the other vehicles until we've located the WA camp, but it's good that we have contingency plans in place for when we do, or contact is made.

Andy & Dave, thanks for filling in the blanks re personnel.

What do y'all think about the proposed patrol route?

For where we jump off from the vehicles, we need to know where the roadblock is. I suppose that we can ask the KR folks to temporarily remove it, if need be.

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In reply to Reggie Grant (msg # 137):

Yes they are untied. They've been that way since Walsh talked to them and fed them, except for just a minute ago when we just moved (in which Ferro tied them back up again). So long as they are in their "cell" it seem there isn't a requirement for them to stay tied up.

They aren't entirely unsupervised. Ferro didn't untied them until Grant and Hank arrived to watch them.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:35, Fri 21 June 2019.

Actually Walsh never untied them to feed them. I can’t (easily) copy and paste from my phone but if you check IC msg 690 Walsh spoon feeds them. To the best of my knowledge they’ve been zip tied throughput.

Sorry, do you mean the abatis you see on the first recce? Or do you mean that old obstacle seen way back on the diesel mission when you passed through? In any case neither block the routes you've planned - good work on that btw.

Also, Krysia will go on the assault. Gustek not.

Andy his leg can be walked on but running if definitely out. So plausible for some sort of support role in the main force, MG crew or something. Something that will fight from a more static position then maneuvering under fire.

If they aren't untied that's on me. I think I caused that to be believed.

Also, if you are going to be sneaking through/next to Katy's camp outs without telling them it might be lead to trouble. They have bandit on their doorstop, so what happens if some sentry sees an force of unidentified people sulking real close to their loved ones?

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 150):

Noted. That's why I suggested staging out of KR, leaving the Humvees there and then proceeding to the recce patrol jump-off point in/on the BTR. The jumping-off point is where the yellow and purple paths added to the map diverge. The main force and BTR will remain there until called for by the scouts.

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This message was last edited by the player at 19:26, Fri 21 June 2019.

I dig the planned routes - looks good to me! Let’s do this.

Also, Hank I believe there are 3 prisoners - you may want to edit the “both” comment in your last post.

I've got a couple of questions re the proposed assault plan

1. Do we have permission from KR to leave our Humvees there? I'm presuming that's no at this stage so that's something that will need to be discussed?

2. Would it not be better if Grant is with the main force? I get the point of a casevac but if we need a medic we may need one fast, i.e. faster than the BTR can get there.If the plan calls for him to guard prisoners that becomes a moot point if he has to debus to treat wounded. Can we leave the prisoners with the KR people? Again, presume that's something that will need to be discussed?

3. Can Voight drive a BTR? Or, bearing in mind Fuse has cleared him for limited field duties, should we swap him with Aleksandr?

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 153):

1. I don't think so. I don't see as how they can refuse, since by the limited cooperation so far, they have already made themselves complicit, but they might not allow it. In this case, I suppose we have no choice but to bring them with us.

2. You're right. Grant should go with the main body.

3. I guess that depends on Fuse's application of the Wheeled Vehicle Driver skill. Perhaps Aleksander can give him a brief orientation prior to departure.

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In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 153):

3. Not without some time spent on familiarization and practice, and skill check.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:57, Sat 22 June 2019.

Fixed, I thought there were only (2)

If it is applicable, Hank has a total value of 8 for WVD and would agree on some level of familiarization with the BTR's workings

In reply to Henry 'Hank' Voight (msg # 156):

No worries man, we got you. :)

Just a reminder that the setting is pitch darkness.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 159):

I assumed that at a planning conference, we'd have some degree of illumination. I stand corrected.

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Hey all, I'll be AFK from tomorrow through Friday, probably won't be back online until Saturday. The fam and I are headed to San Diego for a little unplugged R&R.

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Excellent and enjoy!

Apologies - been away in Cardiff for the weekend and thought I would be able to post but I wasn't able to.

Catching up now.

Ah, the fleshpots around the Taff kept you busy did they. Nasty place, Cardiff...

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 164):

Unfortunately they didn't - I was there with my wife and kids for a 50th birthday do.

Found a nice little hotel in Penarth though.

Penarth, home to Wales' millionaire playboy set. Shame about the fleshpots. What you can't get for a fiver there, you don't need.

I'm not sure if people are waiting on me or are you still working things out. In any case how you plan on engaging with the villagers tonight is rather vague. I don't know how you plan on approaching them or anything.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 167):

I think there's still quite a bit to be worked out. Kessler did ask IC how we were liaising with the villagers so I’m not clear on that one either. Also, the part about the prisoners riding in the back of the BTR was a question not a statement.

Ok, that's fine, just wanted to see where we were.

OK, here’s my suggestion.

We take an hour to finish up our pre mission prep. That includes Andropov giving Voight a crash course (no pun intended) in BTR operation. Kessler is relying on Andropov to give an opinion of whether Voight will handle the BTR or not. If the answer is no we’ll need to adjust accordingly (If I understand what Fuse said earlier correctly, Voight could perhaps act as assistant machine gunner?).

When we move out McCarthy (plus others of his choosing) will go forward to the KR camp in one of the Humvees while the second Humvee and the BTR stay back so that the villagers don’t think we’re attacking them. Purpose of that visit will be to try and arrange for us to park up the Humvees (and Gustek) there while we carry out the assault.

If we’re leaving the Humvees Kessler will want their main weapons temporarily disabled before we move off (I am presuming that is possible).

Thoughts? Alternatives?
This message was last edited by the player at 22:02, Tue 25 June 2019.

Mark that will require a roll so hold off any IC judgement until then, please.

Dave, the weaponry can easily be disabled by sliding out the innards, so that's not a problem. Just gotta be done by someone IC. EDIT - I just read the post, Lukas will do it.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:16, Tue 25 June 2019.

No problem. Let me know the results.

Basic driving out to be okay. Challenging driving will have to be put to a roll at the respective time though, but then again that applies to all drivers anyway.

I don't have anything else to add to the turn so you guys can just carry-on and begin to execute what's been planned.

I'm back and ready to go.

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Sorry for my lack of posting. RL got out of control but it's hopefully behaving again so I can catch up fully and contribute.

My apologies for my absence.

Andy

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 175):

Glad that you're OK. Hope you can get back into the mix soon.

@All: There might be a small but not insignificant continuity glitch regarding recent radio transmissions so you may want to hold off on posting IC until Fuse has made a ruling. Sorry for the trouble.

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The recce team does not have comms with the Assault team. Please edit your posts.

Fuse,

Can the recce team see the beach location that's marked on the map from their current location?

Ta,

Andy

From what I can figure out the current assignments are:

Recon Team
Kolstrup (team leader)
Ferro
Czerny
Walsh

Main Force
Kessler (team leader)
Rodriguez
O'Brien
Babicevs
Andropov
Price (M240 machine gun)
Aleksandr (loader for M240)
Krysia
Grant (medic)

BTR
McCarthy (commander)
Voight (driver)
Fischer (gunner)
Anna

Back at KR with the Humvees
Gustek

If any of that is wrong then please correct me.

Ta,

Andy

Happy 4th to our Yank Mad Dogs.

@Recon Team (Ferro, Jan, Walsh): Per has two suppressed weapons and no NVGs. He's offered to loan his PM-84 submachine gun to Walsh, as needed. Per reminded Ferro to bring her MP-5SD and she has NVGs. Andy, does Jan have a suppressed weapon and/or NVGs?

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In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 180):

Jan has NVGs but no suppressed weapon- he left it back at base in Gdansk!

Doh!

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 178):

No.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 182):

Thanks for confirming.

I put in rough markings to show (about) where you have to be to see either of the camp areas. Bottom line is you can't see both from only one spot.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 184):

Thanks. Appreciated.

I threw out my back so I can't sit to type out a proper response (am on my phone) but Per will move just enough so that he can cover Ferro & Walsh.

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In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 186):

Hope you feel better.

To show the known occupied sections of the house, their facings, entrances, etc...

And to clarify, only some of the windows are only covered over, those being where heat is being generated and there's people. Windows for vacant rooms are not covered. There also may be back doors, but none seen at this time.


This message was last edited by the GM at 10:19, Sat 06 July 2019.

I hope that made sense - basically Walsh is suggesting they go three quarters of the way round the house they're currently at to try and get to the trees so that the house blocks them from the newcomers' view (as opposed to going due east, as that would expose them to the risk of being spotted for longer)

In reply to Chris Walsh (msg # 189):

Sounds good. I'm holding off until Jan calls Per's attention to the walkers before I post IC. My plan is to cover them in case Walsh or Ferro gets spotted.

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Re Ferro's callsign, I've never known her use anything other than Valkyrie since I joined the game.

Found 10?

Ferro's probably like...

"It's an older callsign, but it checks out."





(It's Valkyrie now)

Ha ha. Thanks.

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BTR engine on or stand by??

Engine running, please.

Apologies for my slow posting lately. Work has been nuts, and I’ve been tasked with a major project to hunt down some logistics issues in our supply chain, which has been taking a completely disproportionate amount of time. Hoping to be back to normal around the end of the week.

@All, my (and by extension Kessler's) plan would be for the BTR to head for the bandit camp with everyone rising on top. Obviously they will hear us coming - we can't help that - but if we go by foot they'll probably be gone by the time we get there so I'm hoping we can hit them hard and fast with a combination of the BTR's firepower and the dismounts' manoeuvrability, with the recce team being the ace up our sleeve - basically I'd envisage they stay put until the main assault goes in and then take the bandits by surprise.

If anyone has an alternative suggestion feel free to float it IC (I have made the assumption that no one wants to just let them get away)

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 199):

Sounds like a plan to me.

Reggie has taken a seat inside the BTR though......

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 200):

I noticed.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 201):

The order was "mount up" so that's what he's done.....

Feel free to bollock him!

Fuse, is the map up-to-date? Thanks.

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Done.

Fuse,

I presume that the bandits start running south out of Jan & Per's LOS. Is that correct?

Ta,

Andy

Yes, along the lane, same as the others before.

They'll be out of LOS in a moment.

May not be able to post until Tuesday or Wednesday night due too work.

Begin the acceleration process of the Krok towards the camp as requested by Kessler

Rae, Jinny, if either of you think this is a bad idea and we should stick to the plan to link up with the others instead just say - it's cool.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:50, Tue 16 July 2019.

Updated my turn post as I'd forgotten that you can't fire aimed shots while wearing NVGs. Apologies.

Andy

I would like everyone in Assault to tell me OOC here where their character is. If there's going to be shooting (Varis is already firing for example) and observing in a specific direction they need to be positioned accordingly. This might end up being unnecessary but I'd rather have a very quick and simple post from everyone now rather than try to fix things if it turns out needing to edit action posts... like if everyone ends up shooting in the same direction.


This message was last edited by the GM at 10:50, Wed 17 July 2019.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 210):

Nice model...wish I could paint them like that.

Kessler will take position 2 (I am presuming 1 and 3 are the hatches, i.e air guard positions?)

Billy will take 5 or whatever position is not a firing position.

Yes, and Varis is in one of them, the starboard, but he may have to switch that with the other due to the shooting. Rae will confirm.
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:14, Wed 17 July 2019.

Tom will go 9.
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:27, Wed 17 July 2019.

I'm guessing that Reggie would be at 8 as he originally screwed up and went inside the vehicle. Does that make sense?

Ta,

Andy

Varis is in 1. If he didn't have a clear lane to shoot in the last turn, I will edit that bit out of his last IC post. When I imagined it, the others were sitting forward of his position, but I see now that is not the case. The image really helps.

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I agree the image really helps. I knew there was a hatch in front of the turret and have in the past posted Kessler as sitting on the hull (basically sitting where the rifle is) with his legs inside the hull while he uses the latch as a sort of shield but I see now that doesn’t really work as the hatch opens to the side rather than the front
This message was last edited by the player at 15:29, Wed 17 July 2019.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 217):

Agreed. It's a very useful image as I thought that there were more than two air guard hatches!

It also looks like the forward hatch impedes the rotation of the turret as it can't open fully and lie flat so for the KPV to be fully operational that forward hatch needs to be closed or just open.

I placed a copy of the BTR pic in the intel thread for future reference. I also edited out Varis' return fire. This affects Jose's latest also.

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This message was last edited by the player at 16:40, Wed 17 July 2019.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 217):

It does work. The driver's hatch is angled, but the commander's hatch is square on with the vehicle. So the cover can be used as Kessler has done in the past.

Jose will take position 7. IC post edited.
This message was last edited by a game editor at 19:11, Wed 17 July 2019.

I got some things on the go IRL so the turn is going to be delayed until Saturday (at the latest).

That also gives anyone who still has an action to play two more days.

If/When you dismount, be specific where you get off in relation to the Krok... left side, right side, behind it, etc.

I was certain that Andropov was on top of the vehicle in the 9th seating spot.

I'd assumed the hatch was up and we were using it for protection. I'll alter the post now and PM you about him landing.

Rae, by clock bearing I mean can you give us an idea on the clock where not to ire? Lie don't shoot between 9 and 11 o'clock. I don't know if there's a military term for that. If you can't or are too busy, don't worry.

Rae, sorry, I'm not trying to steal your thunder by having Walsh reply to that radio message, I just figured that Walsh would know that Per was probably a bit busy...

Also, Walsh's suggestion to move to the next house down is just a suggestion - I'm happy to do it a different way if anyone has something else in mind.

Are there comms for the driver/interior in the BTR?  Headphones?  Anything?

Yes. Click here and scroll down until you get to electrical systems

https://thesovietarmourblog.bl...4/11/btr-80.html?m=1

No worries. Thanks for taking care of it, actually.

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Hoping to post today but it's the wife's birthday weekend so have loads of family stuff going on.

In reply to Henry 'Hank' Voight (msg # 228):

You're going to have to clarify what you're getting at. You have a personal radio so those communications are audible. I'm not sure what else you mean.

Consult the map for additional information.

Also, if I post instructions for a turn they aren't optional.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:28, Wed 24 July 2019.

Fuse, Reggie isn't marked on the map. I presume that he's with Assault 1 but facing westwards. Is that right?

Ta,

Andy
This message was last edited by the player at 10:20, Wed 24 July 2019.

Yeah. He's just overlooked. I can't at the moment, but if you want you can edit the map to include him.
This message was last edited by the GM at 10:21, Wed 24 July 2019.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 235):

Ta - edited the map label.

Everyone in the assault team - you should check that map and the labels as there is a lot of tactical information there from Fuse.

@Mark & Cymon: Please don't take offense at Varis' tirade. None is intended. It's just how I imagine him to react, based on the precarious IG situation. He'd never admit it, but he's feeling a considerable amount of fear, and it's coming out as anger. Typical Varis, really.

If my post bothers you, first off, I apologize. Just let me know and I will edit it.

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In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg # 238):

It's all good, no problem.

As with the previous turn, there will be additional tactical information within the map. Unfortunately it's not ready yet and won't be for a couple hours. I'll post a notice.

For observation attempts, I forgot to factor it in last turn, but I'll remind you of a little house rule used maybe Heffe doesn't know either... anyway stances affect chances. Being prone will negatively impact observation rolls. Standing will positively impact them. Kneeling is neutral. The amount differs/is random, depending on the ground and obviously only applies if LOS is physically possible in the first place.

@Recce - The corner of the house can accommodate 2 observers at a time max and there's 4 of you. So you'll need to work out who is where before any rolls can be made for attempts to locate any enemy (besides the guys on the road), if that's what you plan to do.

Don't forget your ammo. It should be deducted each turn, not all in one go at the end.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:43, Fri 26 July 2019.

I was not aware of that rule, but definitely good to know for future reference. Do the rolls just shift one difficulty in either direction?

No, it doesn't affect it that much. It's usually just a -1 or -2 to a roll for bonuses (or similar + values for the opposite). But even one point on a roll can mean the difference between success and failure.

Difficulty levels are changed for things such as: darkness, smoke, obscured by vegetation, observation aids, etc...



The map is updated. I just realized when I was working on it that there aren't any enemy in view anymore, except for the guys shot by Recce earlier. So no observation rolls apply this turn. The enemy are suppressed. Despite the rough start the firefight is currently in your hands.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:29, Sat 27 July 2019.

@Ferro, Jan, Walsh: Any takers? I'm happy for Per to take a slot but I don't want to be an action hog so I will just as happily defer.

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I think it should be Per. You're the team leader. You need to see.

I also think Ferro should opt out and (because I have an SMG which is not suitable for covering or supressing) be in the first pair who make the next leap.

In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 243):

I’m happy to defer. Walsh’s intent would be to go after the runner once the volume of fire has eased off a bit. Which I think tallies with what Jinny just posted. Basically keep Czerny and Kolstrup as one pair and Walsh and Ferro as the other. So I endorse Kolstrup and  Czerny taking the observation slots while Ferro and Walsh stand by to move.

In reply to Chris Walsh (msg # 245):

Thanks. As long as Ferro and Jan are cool with that, Per will set up at the corner and start looking for targets (other than the wounded figures already spotted).

EDIT: I had the time and energy to post for Per IC. If you both want the corner slot, just sing out and I will edit the post accordingly.

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This message was last edited by the player at 22:04, Sat 27 July 2019.

In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 246):

fine with me

Added that observation roll piece into the Game Rules section of the wiki just for ease of reference.

I won't have time to finish the turn so it'll have to wait until tomorrow for the non-recce Mad Dogs.

Fuse - I'm not sure if Jan's action is possible or not (i.e. that he can find a point to cover all the positions he would like to) so please let me know if I need to edit his IC post?

Ta,

Andy

Fuse,

Can Jan react to Ferro's radio message this turn or do you want me to wait until next turn?

Ta,

Andy
This message was last edited by the player at 12:21, Tue 06 Aug 2019.

You can reply, yes.

Thanks, will sort out an IC reply later today hopefully.

Ferro/Walsh - just to be clear, Fuse has said that Jan can respond to Ferro's message but not carry out the action yet this turn.

Ta,

Andy

Fuse, which direction does the cottage door face? I'm sorry if you've already mentioned it.

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Towards the lane. So... SW I think (can't check).

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 256):

Thanks.

@Jan, Ferro, and Walsh: Moving to the front door will expose Jan to enemy and, potentially, friendly fire.

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FYI, I'm now on holiday for the next 10 days but it's in the UK and with internet access so I hopefully will be able to post as normal but there might be some delays.

Ta,

Andy

Fuse, apologies for not posting IC yet. I should be able to do so tomorrow morning UK time.

Ta,

Andy

@Krokodil crew, just a reminder that the driver and commander are seated next to one another.

@Raellus self-roll:
- Varis to climb up by himself: roll vs. STRENGTH+AGILITY (FORMIDABLE)
- Varis to just hang on and wait for help: roll vs STRENGTH+CONSTITUTION (DIFFICULT)
- *Choose only one option and declare it in the dice roller before making the roll.
- *Failure results in a fall to the cellar.

If either Andropov or O'Brien wish to assist Varis, let me know. I'll first assign a target number to roll vs you falling through the floor (based on applicable weights), and then another for the actual task of helping your teammate.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:41, Tue 13 Aug 2019.

Fuse, has the spare barrel for the M240 cooled down enough for Reggie to put it away?

Ta,

Andy

Yes.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 262):

ta

The shotgun is empty, has a stock, has a cut down barrel, and no sling.

sorry for any delays, I've been occupied with working an academy class.  I hope to catch up this weekend

For this next turn I'm trying to prevent the count from breaching 1000 posts. I sent PMs to players with 2 characters, but for everyone, please don't post if you see the total about to reach 1000 posts. What you can do instead is just PM me whatever action you want to take. Thanks.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:57, Thu 15 Aug 2019.

I've frozen the IC thread. Please stand by.

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 268):

Apologies, just seen your PM Fuse.

Fuse,

There is no ammo counts in the last turn post. Did Reggie fire off 1x 5rnd burst?

Ta,

Andy

GM - Yes.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:20, Fri 16 Aug 2019.

In reply to Reggie Grant (msg # 270):

Thanks.

Fuse,

Jan has two personal med kits on him (one in his vest and the other in his patrol pack) so I'll just delete both of those? Is that ok?

Ta,

Andy

Fuse,

Just to be clear, have we found one or two youths? In the turn post it sounds like we captured one and then found a second but I just want to double check.

Thanks,

Andy

One.

@All, I presume everyone wants to cross the lagoon to try and deal with the main WA camp.

Do you want to cross now (after a short pause to replenish any ammo expenditure and interrogate the prisoners to see if they can tell us anything useful about the main body) or do you want to take a proper break (approx four hours) so people have a chance to get some rest before we cross? It’s currently just gone 2300 so I’d reckon we have at least seven - eight hours before dawn.

We could wait until morning to cross but personally I’d prefer to cross under cover of darkness. What happens once we’re across depends on whether we know where they are or not at that point. If we’ve got a specific location for them I’m in favour of hitting them at dawn, but that’s dependent on what we find.

Bear in mind if we loiter there’s a possibility people might come to see what all the noise was (I’m thinking in particular the mystery APC that may be Canadian that is in the area). The alternative is to take a trip back to KR.

Also, we’ll need to decide what to do with the prisoners. Current count is six, maybe five if the youth turns out to be one of the hostages, but that’s going to require a trip back to KR. I have no objection to releasing the original three (unarmed) just before we cross the lagoon.

@Fuse, a couple of things

How many people will fit on the raft? And how portable is it? (i.e. if we decide to go back to KR can we load it on the BTR? I am presuming that is probably a no but thought I’d better check)

I presume Czerny is still fit for duty?

Is the wounded bandit down by the lagoon shore one of the two that still has a pulse but has no chance?

Sorry, one more thing, was the duffle bag recovered from the pair that had the M60?

Yes, M60 duo. The bag was the "pack" Kessler mentioned he wanted to pick up on the road.

Space-wise, it looks like about a dozen can fit on the raft. Gear and such will then factor in so you won't know until you try. The more you load onto it the more it will sink into the water. It's made of logs and other buoyant materials. You can try to load it on the BTR, but it is quite heavy and success will require a passing roll. Or you can tow/drag it behind the vehicle, or something, though that has potential issues as well - including damage. Bottom line is it's not really portable.

Also, I just realized that I completely forgot to mention there is a small dory (boat) hauled up at the construction base as well. It can hold about six fully loaded troops. More details will require surveying the site.

Czerny is not fit for dismounted ops, he's just not dying. He can barely walk. A mounted role is doable though, pain killers needed.

Pulse bandits are one on the alcove road and one by the shoreline.
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:56, Sat 17 Aug 2019.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 274):

Thanks.

@Fuse, can Walsh draw the following rom stores?

15 rnds, 7.62mm S
2 x frag grenades (local)

The double barrelled shotgun and the M60 can go in to stores. I'll leave it to whoever recovered the AKM to decide its fate.

@All, just a reminder that there are copious amounts of small arms ammo aboard the BTR. Msg 501 of OOC 18 lists everything that's there. There are also a small number of grenades (frag and smoke). There are more grenades aboard the Humvees, but we I don't think we specified any cross shipping of cargo to the BTR before we left KR.

@Fuse: Per would like to draw 40 rounds 7.62mmN from company stores.

Varis, when he gets a chance, will draw two fragmentation hand grenades.

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@Walsh that request can be followed through.

@Rae, problem, no 7.62mmN was taken. So please don't add resupply for Kolstrup.
@Rae, Varis can take 2x frags, but please note them as 'Locals' as that's what's available.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:13, Sun 18 Aug 2019.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 281):

We’ve just recovered 40 rounds of 7.62mm Link. Can it be delinked?

Absolutely. We can do that instead.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 283):

Wouldn't it be worth keeping this ammo linked for Price's M240?

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 284):

Fuse will need to confirm how much ammo Price has. It was one of the departed Australians that first drew it from stores and all he said at the time was that he was taking every round of linked 7.62N (which according to stores thread is 1620 rounds). If I remember correctly I did ask him at the time how he planned to distribute that amount / weight but I don't think he replied before he quit.


So there may be well over a thousand rounds of 7.62N available, in which case I think we can spare Rae 40 rounds.

With permission, Jose would like to draw 24 x rounds of 7.62mmS for his AK, along with 1 x 66mm Koncerz HEAT.

In the future, we need to make sure that dismount squads ride on the same side of the BTR, as SOP.

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Mark, Czerny is, I believe, unassigned on account of his wound, which precludes him from duty with any of the OP teams. He should (I think) still be able to observe any sectors that you're concerned about from a position on the BTR if McCarthy orders him appropriately.

We also have a two person strategic reserve, Aleksandr and Anna.

Just a quick heads up, I'm away from the keyboard from now until late Thursday (probably Friday before I'm back to posting).

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 275):

@All: I'm all for going after the WA's main body, eventually.

I think we may have reached a point where we need to come back to that mission after a couple of days. I think we should hand over our prisoners to either the Polish Cav or the islanders because, if we let them go, they might join up with the other WA on the loose and resume their predations. I don't want to mete out summary justice. I don't think KR will want/accept them. That leaves the Island or the Polish Cav (or take them all the way back to Gdansk).

Voight and now Czerny need time to heal up so that they are at least foot mobile again.If Jan was still combat effective, I'd probably advocate crossing the lagoon ASAP, but, even if every Mad Dog is worth 10 WA, we've just gotten considerably weaker.

The more I've thought about it, the more I think we should try to drive around the lagoon in all three of our vehicles because I think we'll need maximum firepower to tackle the WA's cadre, and I'm worried about putting all of our eggs in the BTR basket. I also have doubts that the BTR will be able to tow a boat for extra passenger/cargo capacity without pulling it under/swamping it in its wake. If we manage to get across and something happens to the BTR, it's going to be a lot tougher to get back.

Lastly, and I'm just putting this out there as Option C, but maybe we should call it a day on the WA. That is, until they either recross the lagoon, in which case we come back and go after them hard, or the lagoon freezes hard enough to allow us to drive over it. In the interim, we try to forge some sort of alliance between the Island and KR, so that the latter isn't left totally undefended. We've most likely rendered the group that has been terrorizing the KR area combat ineffective so if KR is willing to defend itself, they should be OK, at least until the lagoon freezes over. I know from history that it is possible to drive over the lagoon when it is frozen from a couple of books I've read about WW2 in the Baltic shelf region (see the excellent but grim, The Fall of Berlin, 1945, by Antony Beevor).

Regardless of whether we decide to continue to the other side of the lagoon sooner OR later, before we leave the lagoon-side camp, if we wait for daylight, we can try to track down one or two of the small groups of WA that escaped the raid and finish them off. Per's got 2/8 tracking, and, if there's any snow on the ground, it shouldn't be too hard to follow tracks made in haste.

I'm looking forward to reading what the rest of you think we should do next so do please share.

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In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 275):

I prefer breaking for four hours then finishing the job. The map shows a lagoon crossing of 13km. I have no idea how fast the Krok swims but I'm going to guess that it is slow, maybe 4km/h. If we rest up for 4 hours then do an hour of prep (incl. testing the raft), we can still travel at that speed and hit them before 8am.

I don't think we need to throw in the towel yet. Jan is still able to fight mounted so we haven't lost any firepower that I see. I think it will feel really underwhelming if we walk away now just because we have one person who got wounded. Then there is our reputation with the KR locals and islanders (who we would rely on if we did come back) to think about. What are they going to think when they see us pack up and go home after one person got injured?

Another idea I got when I looked at the map is walking it. We don't need the raft. It's only a 20km overland march. That's 4 hours on foot with the Krok travelling with us to haul packs and wounded and stores, and to ferry troops across any rivers when encountered. Plus, if the Krok did get trashed in battle and we got stranded I'm not convinced it's a serious issue. It's not like we have to get across the lagoon to get home. We can take the overland way I just mentioned. If the bandits can cross the lagoon we can use the same method to cross small rivers and hike out.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:33, Sun 18 Aug 2019.

Is Hank's inexperience behind the wheel of the BTR?  Especially if crossing?

One of my primary concerns at the moment is the prisoners. The inside of the BTR's gotta be getting pretty full, and carting a squad full of enemy troops with us everywhere we go seems...not entirely prudent. I'd be in favor of trying to resolve that particular dilemma before we hit up the WA main body.

Getting rid of the prisoners somehow would ease things up a lot.

In reply to Ferro (msg # 291):

Just pointing out that of the prisoners are no longer present then everyone fits in/on the Krok, so hiking isn't necessary in your idea.

Thanks, Ferro.

I look forward to hearing from the rest of you.

I propose that we donate the captured weapons to KR, and assure them that we will return in less than 24 hours to finish the job. Before that deadline, we return to the island and hand over the WA prisoners to the militia there. Perhaps we should consult with Krysia and see what she thinks about this. Back at the island, we treat our wounded, rest up, and then head back to the lagoon to start finishing the job.

What do y'all think about that?

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This message was last edited by the player at 04:14, Mon 19 Aug 2019.

I’d rather not go all the way back to the island.

Firstly, it means two trips through potentially hostile territory - we don’t know what obstacles we might encounter just to get back to where we are right now. Secondly, it means that any intel that we do glean from these prisoners becomes out of date - the main body of WA might have moved from where they are now or one of the runners might have found a small boat (as well as the raft there’s a boat here so all they have to do is come back after we’ve left), managed to cross the lagoon, and told them about what’s happened so they’re forewarned.

I’d rather send the BTR back to Katy with the prisoners while the bulk of our force stays here to make sure that no one disturbs the site. We try and get the KR people to hold the prisoners for 24 hours - we’ll give them captured weapons as payment (and maybe some gold or fuel) so we’re not asking for something for nothing (and a day’s food for each prisoner so that they’re not a drain on their resources. If we’re not back in 24 hours they can turn the prisoners loose. The BTR then comes back and we cross the lagoon.

If that doesn’t work, e.g. the KR people refuse to take them I fall back to letting them go before we cross. In my opinion it’s less of a tactical risk than going back and forth to the island.

Finally, we did have an agreement with the Polish Army that they would take responsibility for any WA prisoners but I don’t know if these five qualify and / or the Poles intended to provide a shuttle service to pick up prisoners -so I’m not sure that solves anything.

With regards going overland I’m not against the idea, but if I remember correctly we had a discussion about the pros and cons of each approach at the time and the conclusion was that there were a lot of cons involved with an overland approach (primarily the number of rivers / bridges that had to be navigated I think, but I could be mistaken).

Re Czerny, the most logical thing is probably for him to swap places with McCarthy or Fischer and take a slot on the BTR. That negates the manpower disadvantage (probably best of he swaps with McCarthy as that avoids having a Senior NCO NPC on the ground).

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Do you mean is Hank’s lack of experience behind the wheel potentially going to be an issue while crossing? If so, yes, I would agree that while we’re on the water (if we go that way) it would make sense for someone more familiar with the BTR to be at the wheel rather than a rookie driver.

OK, I’ve got.a plane to catch so I really am out of here now - I’ll try to check in via phone as and when I can.

The Polish Army will take any prisoners turned over to them, but you need to make the delivery.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 285):

Apologies - I thought that we brought loose 7.62mmN with us as well but I was wrong.

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In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 288):

Resolved this IC.

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In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 290):

My thoughts are that we do the following:

 - Arrange a meet with the Polish Army and hand over the prisoners to them.

 - Give all the captured weapons plus ammo to KR with the exception of the M60. If we can clean that up and get it working well then that is a valuable asset we should look to keep or trade.

 - Hopefully the youth we captured is from KR and can be returned to them as well.

 - We should also search the construction site for tools and decide what to do with anything that we find, either keeping it or giving it to KR as well.

 - As there is an actual boat at the construction site as well we should give that to KR as well.

 - Depending on how much time a meet with the Polish Army takes to organise one or both of Jan and Hank may be recovered enough to be combat effective. Even if they aren't then I think that we continue with the mission as planned, crossing the lagoon and then attacking the WA main camp. We can reorganise the crew of the BTR based on the recovery status of Jan and Hank.

 - I like Jinny's idea of going round the lagoon but as Fuse has pointed out, without the prisoners everyone fits in/on the BTR so we don't need to worry about the raft. Sticking to the shallower water around the edge of the lagoon may be the safest option.

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 299)

At the airport....

I have the same objection to arranging a handover of the prisoners to the Poles as I do going back to the island, namely the time that it will take, during which any intel we obtain loses value and WA have a chance to organise / move / prepare an ambush, etc. If we are going to cross the lagoon in my opinion we should go as quickly as possible.

I also don’t think we should give away virtually everything that we recover without getting something in return.

I'd like to try to take the prisoners to KR and leave some food for them to feed them. We could give a few weapons and some ammo in exchange, maybe hint there'll be more when we return. That way we can use the resources if we need to and decide what we give later.

That would take about four hours so it would work with Ferro's timeline.

Also, if you need an experienced BTR driver, Tom's background is as a driver who stated on BTRs in 1980.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 301):

Yes, that sounds like a reasonable solution. I think time is against us and if the boy is part of the community we have to return him anyway.

Keep the M60, Billy could probably give it a make over and get it functioning better.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:25, Mon 19 Aug 2019.

So it sounds like we have the rough workings of a plan. To recap:

1. Complete interrogation of the prisoners.
Aux - Depending on what we learn from the interrogation this may lead to alternate actions.
2. Return to KR and attempt to leave the prisoners with them, along with weapons and ammo for payment (and possibly food, though I'm not sure we have a lot to spare). This will also give us a chance to check on the Humvees and perhaps learn more about KR, along with potentially dropping off one of their missing boys.
3. Head out toward the main bandit camp across the lagoon.

That check out?

Outvoted again!

In reply to Jose Rodriguez (msg # 303):

I'm fine with that. My main concern, ATM, is that KR refuses to take custody of the prisoners. Without weapons, they won't be an immediate threat, but they could still constitute a long-term threat to regional security. I'd rather we let them go than shoot them, though.

@Interrogators: I think we need to ask the WA why they were building the raft. Why didn't they just walk around the lagoon to rejoin their comrades?

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This message was last edited by the player at 22:55, Mon 19 Aug 2019.

In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 304):

Polish Cav to your south.

Loose Items Picked Up:

1x M60 Machinegun [Poor CND]
1x Double (Short) Barrel 12ga. Shotgun
3x AKM Rifle w/30rnd 7.62mmS Mag
1x Tokarev TT-30 Pistol w/8rnd 7.62mmT Mag
1x M16A2 w/30rnd 5.56mmN Mag
1x PPS-42 SMG w/35rnd 7.62mmT Mag [Poor CND]
1x M9 Pistol w/15rnd 9mmP Mag

Consolidated Ammo (taken from magazines in weapons)

50x 7.62mmS
25x 7.62mmT
10x 5.56mmN
10x 9mmP

Containers Picked Up:

1x Duffel Bag "A"
   1x Starlight Scope [Broken]
   1x Notebook with some loose pages inserted
   1x Duct Tape (x5 Uses)
   1x Bottle (25x Dried Tea)
   1x Bottle (10x Unlabeled Pills)
   1x Candle, animal fat (4 Hours)
   1x Civilian Clothing, Set
   1x Rain Jacket, Civilian
   1x Brew Kit
   1x Sleeping Bag, Lightweight
   1x Luxuries Kit, (Small amount of salt, sugar, spices, etc)

1x Duffel Bag "B"
   1x Tarp, 3mx6m
   1x Air Mattress, Foam
   1x 2-man Tent, Blue
   3x Blankets, Wool
   1x Insulated Rubber Boots, Set
   1x Hatchet
   1x Craftsman's Tools, Set
   3x Animal Pelts
   2x Civilian Clothing, Set
   50m Cordage
   1x Box (50x Nails)
   1x First Aid Kit
   1x Bread, Loaf
   1x Stack of Old Newspapers
This message was last edited by the GM at 10:12, Wed 21 Aug 2019.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 306):

Fuse,

Thanks for all of this. Reggie was also intending on stripping boots and salvageable clothes from the bodies as well as going through their pockets. You've mentioned a problem with carrying lots of stuff but Reggie will just turn a pair of trousers into a bag by tying the legs into knots and filling them as well as using a jacket or shirt to tie all of the other clothes inside into a bundle. Does he still need to do that or can that have already happened? 

Ta,

Andy
This message was last edited by the player at 10:16, Wed 21 Aug 2019.

You are going to need more time.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 308):

Sure - will post accordingly.

Fuse,

Additionally, Kessler ordered Reggie to assess to two critically wounded bandits. Have they both now died from their wounds or do they need putting out of their misery? How many dead bodies have been found in total?

Also I presume that the duffel found by Per and Chris is included above but has the freshly dressed deer been recovered yet?

Ta,

Andy

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EDIT - what are we doing with the dead bodies? Leaving them? Burying them? Putting them in the cellar and collapsing rubble on top of them as Reggie suggested?
This message was last edited by the player at 11:04, Wed 21 Aug 2019.

In reply to Reggie Grant (msg # 310):

You can post what you want about the dying bandits.

If it's not in the list it isn't collected.

This is from ages ago but I've just been updating Jan's character sheet and I've realised that his suppressed SMG isn't back at base in Gdansk, it's in his pack inside the BTR! Totally failed to use it for what it was designed for!

Doh!

As another reminder, Hank does have the Interrogation skill and a decent working knowledge of the Polish language...

...I think we should ditch the dead bodies with the other one found in the basement after we sort through their pockets for loose change.