OOC stuff...

Please bear with me.  While I have years of DM experience, I am new to pbp.  So I have a learning curve on the use of this online game system.  If anyone has suggestions/problems, fill free to PM me.

I may try some experimental things with combat eventually.  Like having you post what you are doing in general, not round-by-round.

If you don't post for 2 days, I will start directing what the character does.

This is an adventure path, which implies following a given plot. If you have trouble following a plot or take childish delight in derailing plots, please don't waste my time. I will try to make the scenery enjoyable on the train ride and if you want to take a trip into town on a side-quest I will try to let you.  But the train has a schedule to keep and will be leaving on time.

I tend to be open about my characters, so I like to run heroic and open games.  If you want a more private character, PM me and let me know.

If you want to rename or refluff things, that is fine with me.  For example; warlocks don't have to gain their power from fiendish sources.  Mechanically they work the same, but with different names.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:54, Sun 04 Jan 2009.

Welcome one and all.  I want to wait at least till tomorrow to see if we can't get 1 or 2 more folks.  So far we have;
monk
warlock
fighter
druid

Cool, looks like we're about to begin!  Rock on!

Rock, now I can start formatting my Char Sheet!

  *Jaw Drops*

  Ready to start?  I'm using a character from another adventure, and I won't be ready for at least a day. :)

I build quickly.  Really quickly.

for most characters if you use this website for the core stuff

http://www.pathguy.com/cg35.htm

And then copy pasta it as necessary to your sheet then it cuts down your build time by about an hour plus.

I'm making 4 characters for 4 different games right now... and waiting on my other games to hurry up and post as we're in combat or in a situation.

No, we won't get started until everyone fills out a character sheet (sorry about the delay, I am still trying to figure how to run a game on this site) and if there are 1 or 2 more players.

  If you need advice or help on the site, let me know.

Thanks, I have uploaded the world map, though I don't know how much detail that provides.  Tomorrow I will upload the town map.

  I don't think you can upload the town map too, but I could be wrong.  There is a way to upload the maps to another site, like ImageShack, and then put the link into a thread so that it shows up when you open the thread.  But I'll have to look up how I did that.

If you put a bunch of pics out there in a thread, it is best if you put it in a group other than 0.  The reason for this is bandwidth, a Group 0 is accessible to the general public and so anyone can snag your bandwidth a Group 1 is private and viewable only to those in the game.

Glum the resilient here.  I'll get my sheet done as soon as I can but I have to go to the vet tomorrow.

Heyya Glum.  Your Gnomish Blaster standing here.  Just point me at the Baddies!

For those who don't know the setting, you can download the "Rise of the Runelords Player Guide" for free at:

https://secure.paizo.com/store...elords/v5748btpy7xpx

Thankee, will read tonight.

Okay, that's my character sheet done.

Alrighty, we are now 6.  I will start reviewing characters as they are finished.  When everyone is ready we will start.  If you haven't done so, please download and review "Rise of the Runelords Player Guide" from my previous post.

Hello people, I'll be the party rogue. I look forward to gaming with you.

I need to make a couple adjustments, but for the most part, I'm set.

  So do we have an arcane caster besides the warlock?

I don't think so yet.  For blasting we're covered, but not for otherwise it looks like.

  So in other word, maybe Cat should consider some other spells.  But I think we'll have to improvise in some ways.  May I ask you, Naomi, what is your chosen invocation?

  Also, does anyone have rope and climbing gear, crowbar, light, oil, fire, etc?  I have extra money to spend if necessary to spend, along with 4 sunrods.

Your steady, strong-armed meat-shield here, at your disposal.  A straight fighter, no frills attached.  I look forward to playing with you all.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:59, Mon 05 Jan 2009.

It might not be a bad idea for either a cleric or a utilitarian wizard to be amongst us at this point.

Update; I am still waiting on a couple of characters.  So far we have the following; I will keep you updated.
monk
warlock
fighter-type
druid
rogue
wizard

*Crosses fingers* I believe I'm done.

  Well, it looks like your druid now the group's healer.  I have no problem with that, as I am ready for that, and it fits my character's personality and deity.  Except that I don't even have a healer's kit, and my healing won't go to far with a party of six.  Don't get hit!!!  :D

we are still waiting on 2 character sheets and 1 backstory.  We should probably start tomorrow.

None of it. =( My appologies, it never crossed my mind. I have a bit of money though, so once the game starts, if there is need, I'll buy some supplies too.

I have a rope, but that's it.  We monks don't have a lot of worldly goods, you know.

Hrmmm... Adventuring gear.... must buy.....

Basic background up... now to work on my description.

I have completed my sheet and placed a character description.

Think I'm done.  Maybe money left over.

*Gnomish Salute of Readiness*

  I'm finished, with the exception of buying something else if needed.  i can also donate, with DM permission, the money to anyone who needs it.  Maybe in game if feasible.

I have all the characters done.  I will review them, and we will start tomorrow.

Welcome to Sandpoint....

Yes, Onto Sandpoint, where 3 little folk shall start bothering a larger Human.

I would be interested to know how familiar everyone is with the material in general(The world of pathfinder)and specifically(Rise of the Runelords)?  If you are familiar with RotR, do you think I should put a mature or adult rating on the game?  There are a few parts that could get problematic.

Everyone is 21 or over.

I like the starting interactions.

I would also like to discuss game speed.  I love character interactions, but I would also like to advance the story.  I would like to "fast forward" the story after a couple of days of interactions on a scene.  Take the current scene of people at the festival.  After a couple of days would it be acceptable to everyone if I said "...and the rest of the festival was fun.  Describe in 1 post what you do with the rest of the day" or whatever the next scene is.  I will not try to mess with your character (unless they deserve it by poking a stick at the uncaged lion, or something equally silly).  Discuss...
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:42, Wed 07 Jan 2009.

I personally prefer 'Adult' games.  Especially if the GM allows for player adult interactions (Not cybering... ewe) but some flirting, some discussions, some interactions, and definitely other things that just can't be done in a PG-13 game.

But others often have issues with this so I'll go with the majority.  But if a swing vote I go for 'Adult'.

As for the game systems.  Just found them within this last week so I'm still learning them.

I don't have a preference for Mature or Adult games, but instinctively favour the most permissive in any given situation, so I guess my vote's for "adult" (although I shall certainly not be doing anything R rated.)

On the other hand, I DO like the DM to move the story on after a day or so of player interactions (and keeping combat as short as possible as well if THAT blocks the plot).

   With regards to game speed, I have no problem with fast forwarding.  Generally, if something serves a useful purpose or adds to the game experience, I generally say "All the better".  Moving the game forwards when it bogs down is always a plus.

   I have no real need to rate the game adult.  My play and descriptions are usually PG-13.  I guess the real question is:  Is the reason you want the rating worth the possible trouble you can get in if someone under 18 sneaks in?

I think I would prefer ADULT as well.  Anything that moves the story along is fine by me.

Ok, we all seem to be of like mind.  I will give everyone the rest of the day to interact with each other and ask question about specific places.  I should be able to post the next scene tonight.  I am also working on an npc list.  Have fun.

  I'm waiting on Glum to respond....

I'm fine with the game fast forwarding. If it helps move things along, it sounds good to me.

Adult? I don't really care, I suppose. I'll be posting pg13 material either way, but I won't be offended by anything R. Go for it, if that's what the majority wants.
Though Catessa has a good point. If anyone now or later is lying about their age, it could cause trouble for you.

The most trouble it'll cause honestly is that we'll lose a player.  As long as the GM has a proper Adult Notification thread up first for all Players and they've all posted there first then the Mod's are happy.

I turned a couple games I GM from regular to Adult and found it out the hard way.  But only lost one player due to them lying about their age.

A halfling apologises for her shortness.  I LOVE it!

I'm havin fun here though, not often I can clamor all over another character.  YAY for tiny girls!

  Lol.  I didn't mean it THAT way.

Ok, how many small folk we go?  I see 1 tallfolk so far.

I'm 4'1" tall.  That's not very short.

ok, 2 small, 1 shorter, 1 tall.  Remember, you're only 1 foot taller than a Gnome so you wouldn't be considered 'Tall' folk to them.

  Lol.  It looks like we'll have a fifth player.  It would definitely be funny to have four short folk and one mountain. :)

Comparatively, I think I count as one of the tall folk as well.

Did everyone read the houserules; so no one will be surprised

House-rules
- poison is For 1/2
  (and generally unavailable for pc's)
- turn undead variant (does damage to undead)
- Hp, max at 1st and 2nd, then fixed
d4=2
d6=3
d8=4
d10=6
d12=7
- increases in Int give retroactive skill points
- all skills cost 1 skill point (normal maximums apply)
- Sor gain the Eschew Material Components feat

Review your sheets and be sure to purchase skills for 1 point.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:04, Thu 08 Jan 2009.

  You mean that even cross-class skills only cost one point?  I read it, but didn't know that's what you meant.  It doesn't matter for my character though.  I am happy with my chosen skills.  But maybe next level.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:09, Thu 08 Jan 2009.

Yes, cross-class skills cost 1, but cross-class maximums still apply

Do we have to post in combat in initiative order, or will the DM sort it out whatever order we post in?

My guess; no waiting, but only after the goblins have gone. Just a guess though.

My apologies for not being on yesterday. My roommate stole the computer. If it happens in the future I'll make the arduous 4 block trek to the computer lab.

Do you have implements of torture in the computer lab, of sufficient quality to dissuade your roommate from such an heinous crime?

Lol, I don't think it would work. She's scarier then most torture devices.

   That's pretty scary.

  Then again maybe not.  Torture devices don't frighten me.  They are harmless.  The people that USE torture devices scare me. :)

Glum, I feel for you man.  Ohh, the wonderful world of random rolls...  Do remember, a 1 on a skill check is NOT an auto fail and trust me, I can roll bad too.  Is now a good time to confess, I tend to be unlucky.  Really, my friends didn't believe in luck, until they met me.  Just saying....

[Private to Garth Oakenshield: So draw weapon.    With a Bab of +1 you can combine a draw weapon with a move action if you want.]

  That sounds ominous.

  Are you rolling your own dice, DM?  I noticed a weird effect with personal dice that you use all the time.  They aren't random anymore, but seem to roll either really good, or really bad, depending on your mood.

  As a DM, I have to switch dice I roll periodically.  Or the players are doomed.

I think a 1 on a skill check to intimidate two goblins who are currently of the opinion they are both conquering heroes, and whose opinion is being bolstered by the screams of the people around, probably is as close to an auto fail as it's possible to get.surely?

I would hazard to guess that rolling a 1 in that instance means that you just stuck both fingers up your nose and waggled your tongue at them with your fly down and doing the pelvic thrust with your knees in tight.

oh you failed alright....

I was imagining a minor mistake in Goblinese grammar whereby instead of exhorting the two goblins to get lost while their betters had their fill, in fact, I invited them to engage in sexual congress.

   Lol.  That would probably insult or disgust them to the point where they might focus on attacking you.

Nah... they're goblins.  Why'd'you think there are so MANY of them?  (Then again, in the GURPS supplement, "Goblins" a female Goblin can become pregnant from "reading a racy novel", so maybe they don't do such things.)

   Lol.  I don't think I'd care to find out. ;)

moved to new post
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:49, Sat 10 Jan 2009.

Since Blue got taken, I shall take DarkBlue.

I picks Red!

Insh'allah, I shall take Dark Green.

   No, Glum.  Take brown! :)  Isn't brown a more dwarven color, being the color of earth and some rock?

   Say, how do you do spoiler text?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:15, Fri 09 Jan 2009.

I'm a monk as well as a Dwarf.  Dark Green fits better.

And you type < spoiler > without the spaces before the stuff you want to hide.
Then you type < / spoiler > also without the spaces at the end

Spoiler text is pretty nice when doing battle and you don't want the rolls just blaring there.

  Cool.  Thanks.

  No problem with the dark green except that it can blend with the green when reading.  But so can the blues, I guess.

WTF!?  Fine, I'm Mr. Pink

Lol, sorry Zer.

If it makes you feel any better, Mr. Pink was my favorite guy in Resevoir Dogs;)

   Lol.  There's other colors left, Zer-wedula.

If you wish Zer, I'm a girl so I'm fine with Pink.  However you do have to know... that only REAL men use Pink.

Oooh no missus, nay, nay and thrice nay!

Ok fine.  I'll keep blue and Leave Pink for you men.

My Frankie Howerd impression was because I was resisting the temptation to make some remark suggesting I thought you meant Pink the singer, rather than pink the colour.

I wore a pink Izod shirt back in the 80's.  It was cool.  But then again, so were mullets...
This message was last edited by the player at 00:50, Sat 10 Jan 2009.

NPC's - blue
OOC - orange

Talis -aqua
Naomi - dark Blue
Zer-wedula - pink
Catessa -green
Glum - Dark green
Garth - red


purple
yellow
brown


So is this correct?  These will be your colors on the game map.
Is everyone finding the game map useful?
next round should be up soon.
Thanks

Me, I would have gone with purple or yellow.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:54, Sat 10 Jan 2009.

Umm no... if your hairdresser told you mullets were cool, even in the eighties, she was lying.

I really don't doubt that mullets were the thing in the 80's. It fits the trend. 90's saw the popularity on the bowl cut, and 2000's has the bloomin onion thing going on, since Dragon Ball Z somehow became popular.
Most haircuts are exceptionally... goofy looking, but somehow "in". I mean seriously, bowl cuts?

Hey, forewarning, I'll be out of town from tomorrow around noon (11 hours from now), until Sunday eavening. If I need to post, DM, feel free to NPC me however you think is best, I'll work with whatever you leave me.
I may be able to check in to see whats going on without being able to actually post, so I'll let you know when I'm back home.

Oooh, now that I realize I can be Corey Hart, or whoever Mr. Pink was, and somehow make a living out of riding motocross, and get even more ink, well, I'm Mr. Pink.

I just want to say that I hope you all don't get discouraged by missing attacks.  The first couple of levels are like that, lots of missing on both sides.

GIMME A W
GIMME A H
GIMME A I
GIMME A F
GIMME A F

What does that spell?  WHIFF!!!!

I love Whifftastic starts.  They're so GREAT.  Course that is why the great people at WoTC (Prior TSR, Prior Gary Gygax) created Goblins as enemies.  So that us 1st level adventurer's don't get squished in our first encounter.

  Not really.  Especially where goblins are concerned.  Especially ones too busy eating and what not at the beginning.  And I have not yet begun to fight. :)

  But I hope you're not saying a 19 missed.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:19, Sat 10 Jan 2009.

Say, has everyone found the game map and is it proving useful to visualize the tactical situation?


Couple of facts about goblins;

They’re A Little Crazy: The fact that goblins
think of things like ovens as good hiding places
reveals much about their inability to think plans
through to the most likely outcome. That, and
they tend to be easily distracted, particularly
by shiny things and animals smaller than them
that might make good eating.
They’re Voracious: Given enough supplies, a goblin generally
takes nearly a dozen meals a day. Most goblin tribes
don’t have enough supplies to accommodate such ravenous
appetites, which is why the little menaces are so prone to
going on raids.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:26, Sat 10 Jan 2009.

  What am I cursed?  The battle will be over before I can do anything useful. :)

Righty all then, I say that the dices are borked

Sorry, but there still seems to be alot more happening in town, with more goblins running around.  I'll bet you'll run into some more... did I just say that. ;)



I understand about unluck.  A couple of weeks ago my RL gaming group played a game of Shadowrun.  The entire group kept missing or hitting for near minimum damage.  It was the worst case of group luck melt down I have ever seen.  We almost lost to some villains we normally would have taken out easily.  Simply horrible.

Luckily, goblins are a little silly and stupid (and have had some bad luck of their own).
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:48, Sat 10 Jan 2009.

  Lol.

  I'd prefer to have my fighting ability with me, but Garious is kicking goblin butt outside of town.  I'll have to muddle through the goblins as best I can. :)

   Garth, as far as I can see, there's no goblins near Catessa.

Indeed, Goblin 3 is one of two in melee with Glum.

Yep, I misread the posting, I edited my post to reflect his correct action.

You guys know what's sad?  I'm using Ranged Touch Attacks and missing completely!!!

Well, got a 23 to hit that time!  YAY.

[Private to GM: Hey quick game question.  Do you allow the feat 'Point Blank Shot' to do not just the +1 to hit in Short Range, but also the +1 damage to an Eldritch Blast?]

  I know exactly how you feel.  I haven't hit yet.  Not because it is tough to do so.  But because the stupid dice roller won't even let me have a two digit roll. :(

Naomi Armastance; Yes and hooray for the hit.

At certain times, when the group is together and all (probably) moving with the same purpose, it would be quicker and easier to have 1 leader to say "The group will take the left passage", "Here's our marching order" and stuff like that.

What do you think about this idea,
and who would you like to nominate (PM name) if anyone?

Maybe you would like to rotate this position per section?

let me know.

  I am fine with a party leader.  Catessa isn't necessarily the leader type.  She is wise and intelligent enough to do so, but lacks leadership skill.

I think once picked we should only rotate if the player who has leadership is unavailable for some reason.  Otherwise it should stay with his/her character until such a time as their character shows poor leadership, or the player has to go.

Naomi as a character is a bit to free loving and happy go lucky oftimes to be a leader but she has one hell of a CHR and should be liked by most.  Otherwise she's a Warlock (Variant) and I don't know if they're often considered leaders.

   Well, unlikely leaders sometimes make the best leaders, which is why I left the option open.  But sometimes, the player can make the difference, even if the character isn't 'ideal'.

   It's hard to tell this early, but I think Garth might make a good leader, unlikely as that is.  Otherwise, Naomi and Glum seem next in line.

I'd like to recommend Talis, but to be honest, I'm not comfortable with anybody having the role.  As a bunch, most times, I imagine we'd argue about which way to go or follow whoever's first in the marching order unless he or she is scouting up ahead.

  I think the DM means this:  The party members have had ample opportunity to express which direction they want to go.  But the answer is too ambiguous for the DM to decide, or players aren't posting a preference.  The DM doesn't want the game to bog down, and so the party leader gets to decide.

  Or everyone expresses where they would like to be in marching order, but it doesn't mesh exactly.  The Party Leader decides.

  Right, DM?

Close, say the group finishes a combat in a room with 2 unexplored doors.  A leader could say, "ok, in standard order we go to the left Door.  Talis, per SOP will check for traps and then Glum will open it."  It is assumed in this example that SOP for opening doors and marching and such have already been worked out ahead of time In- or out-of-character.  As opposed to needing everyone to post "I will go to the door and wait for Talis to check for traps."  Then, "now I'm waiting for Glum to open the door".

Here is what I am trying to avoid.  In another pbp game I am a player in, it has been 5 weeks and the characters have finally gotten together as a group and are headed toward the first encounter.  Another example, I have found another pbp game of a published adventure path (of the same length as RotR) I have.  By my calculations it will take them 12-18 YEARS to finish.  I like you guys and I am having fun, but I don't want to spend that much time getting to the end.

A leader would work with my idea in ooc/post37 "I would like to "fast forward" the story after a couple of days of interactions on a scene" and make group decisions about group direction.  I would still make assumptions about things a character might do based on level, class, stats and previous examples.  Rogues checking for traps and things like that.  What I am looking for is a way to speedup the game, while leaving you with as much control over your character as possible.

Total Control/Really Slow-------------------------?-------------------------Little Control/Really Fast

How about we thrash out some standing orders to simulate the normal party arguments in advance?

That would be a good idea.

  Standing orders sound good.

  Catessa is excellent at listening.  She's decent at spotting and stealth.  And between her and Garious, can probably handle tracking well.

Standing Orders
1) Cat will assist the party rogue at listening at doors (aid another)
2) Cat and Garious will employ tracking as a team when given a reason to do so.
3) Cat will accompany the party rogue in scouting when it is too dangerous for
   the rogue to go alone.

I am saddened that you don't want to know me for 12 to 18 years. :(

   Not that we don't want to know you for 12-18 years.  But that we can play more than one adventure in that time.  Though I am DM'ing one adventure (I don't mean a campaign) that may never end, because the adventure is so huge.

Glum is not particularly good at anything at first level, but there are many things, such as listening, moving silently etc. at which he is better than most.  Later on, as he develops, then no doubt he will evolve into a super sneaky, cliff-climbing meatshield whose fists are magic weapons.  That will take some time, however, so he's likely to hang around in the middle of the group for now.

  Actually, Glum seemed to be a front-liner to me.  He definitely did more than his share of killing, I think.

Glum only managed to hit once, but it was a critical and Goblin 3 was no more.

As some of you may have guessed, I'm back.

Leader? Whomever acts the most leader-like in character. I don't think I'll be casting a vote, but if any of you tell me what to do, I'll gladly do it. It's been my experience that a mediocre plan that's orgonized, is better then a great plan that isn't.

Agreed guys.

In game I'm kinda attached to Garth now, his character cries out for help.

As for hitting - Glum, My attacks are Ranged Touch attacks, for Gobbies that's hitting on 12 I believe.  So heh the dice didn't like me much.

Hey DM, do you want us to just post and you'll order it appropriately?  Or do you wish us to post in turn?

Post away and I will use commonsense if your action gets invalidated by someone in front of you.

  Hadrian?  I think you mean Garth, Garth.

Having trouble uploading game map, so here are some goblins to look at.  Ugly freaks.

Ok, finally managed to upload map.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:27, Mon 12 Jan 2009.

   The 1's have been really bad on this dice roller.  I have advice for everyone.  Wait a bit between dice rolls.  I think it will make some difference.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:55, Tue 13 Jan 2009.

In reply to Catessa Fallowfield (msg #126):

LOL, yep, got a bit confused there.

one more for the 1's count! I can't really complain though, I think I've been rolling at least halfway decently.

  Yeah I got another 1 too.  I've never seen such bad rolls in a game ever.

I have, once, in all my years of gaming. It was a fallout d20 game. In the first fight, two of us were in the negatives, our doctor was blind, and the last person standing, at 0 hit points with a crippled left arm and right hand, had to headbut the last enemy to death.

I am open to suggestions if someone knows a good website or some such alternate rolling program.

I'm fine with Rpols. Eventually it will stop rolling low, it always does.

I've had a couple of 1s but I've also had a 20.  I'm not complaining.

   Actually I had a request.  If you would let someone roll d20 until the pattern seems to clear.  Say may 100 times.  It might work.

   Personally, I was wondering if RPoL had changed something with their dice roller.  It was bad before, but this is extremely bad.  But I know their dice roller is somehow tied to time.  I wonder if it is tied to date too.  Because since the new year, rolling has gotten really bad everywhere I've seen.  If the year is the problem, rolling won't likely improve.

   Sure there are some good rolls.  But the bad rolls are outnumbering the good rolls like 4 to 1.  Or in my case, 9 to 1.

   The mods claim that the dice roller is random.  That is after a million rolls or something like that.  But the problem is that problems can equalize over that many rolls.  But I did a statistic analysis of this dice roller vs. a regular die with 200 rolls each (d20).  The regular die performed pretty well randomly.  The dice roller was badly skewed.  And 1's were definitely a problem!


   Sorry, I don't know of another dice roller...
This message was last edited by the player at 12:40, Tue 13 Jan 2009.

Ok, anybody who wants to may roll 100 time in a row.  Lets see how that works.

10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 1 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 11 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 7 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 20 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 6 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 7 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 13 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 16 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 16 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 10 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 10 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 15 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 14 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 5 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 10 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 3 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 12 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 6 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 6 using 1d20.
10:27, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 10 using 1d20.

10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 2 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 16 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 20 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 17 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 11 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 20 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 12 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 11 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 10 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 1 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 1 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 17 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 6 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 14 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 13 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 8 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 17 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 20 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 20 using 1d20.
10:26, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 18 using 1d20.

10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 10 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 9 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 14 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 6 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 4 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 9 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 2 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 2 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 5 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 17 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 6 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 15 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 8 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 16 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 16 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 10 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 5 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 20 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 6 using 1d20.
10:25, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 14 using 1d20.

10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 17 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 13 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 14 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 5 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 4 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 1 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 17 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 20 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 8 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 17 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 10 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 17 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 13 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 1 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 17 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 2 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 4 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 7 using 1d20.
10:24, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 7 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 8 using 1d20.

10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 16 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 1 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 4 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 4 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 4 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 2 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 8 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 2 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 9 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 16 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 3 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 11 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 7 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 18 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 17 using 1d20.
10:23, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 9 using 1d20.
10:22, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 1 using 1d20.
10:22, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 10 using 1d20.
10:22, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 19 using 1d20.
10:22, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 20 using 1d20.

There are a couple strings of bad rolls but on average I would say it is OK.
09:30, Today: Garth Oakenshield rolled 121 using 10d20 with rolls of 19,20,12,19,1,7,9,18,11,5. test.
09:30, Today: Garth Oakenshield rolled 144 using 10d20 with rolls of 20,12,16,19,13,18,10,11,8,17. test.

   Well here's a warning.  If you roll too fast, the dice roller definitely tends to duplicate the previous number.  That is consistant with what I previous know about it.

   I'm also seeing, between here, another test, and rolls I've seen, a predisposition to certain numbers.  Fortunately, 17 and 20 seem to be one of them.  But a lot of lower rolls are definitely favored.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:35, Tue 13 Jan 2009.

I play a game on another site and we use this dice roller which emails results out.
http://www.pbegames.com/roller/

  I may have worked the bugs out.  The later rolls seem to be better than those first 60.  It seems to be rolling ok now.

But here is a dice roller we could use:
http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1893161/

http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1893160/

The second link has a roll of 1, but that was the only 1 I rolled out of 10.  It have a pretty decent spread, actually.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:46, Tue 13 Jan 2009.

  How about this.  We go another round with RPoL dice roller.  If no one gets a 1, and the average of the d20 dice rolls is close to 10.5 (average), then we'll keep going with the RPoL dice roller.  If not, we'll do something else.

I just rolled a 1

  I notice your rolls Garth, and they illustrate the problem exactly.  The dice roller has a time-based randomizer.  You rolled all those rolls at roughly the same time.  There is a pattern of consistency to your rolls.  Theoretically, if one could discover the proper time to roll, one could really exploit the system.

09:30, Today: Garth Oakenshield rolled 121 using 10d20 with rolls of 19,20,12,19,1,7,9,18,11,5. test.
09:30, Today: Garth Oakenshield rolled 144 using 10d20 with rolls of 20,12,16,19,13,18,10,11,8,17. test.

I think the DM's thing about reroll once per roll if you fail might work.

In other games I've never seen this consistency across the board of rolls.

But I found on my 2nd roll with 1d20 that the roll is usually an avarage roll.  I like how the DM put it.

1st roll you can keep, if you fail you may reroll once, but you MUST keep the second roll if you roll it.

lol, Zer, I think you've saved my life twice now. If the group ever splits up, Talis is going to have to raise his wisdom to stay alive.

Re-roll once on a fail sounds good to me.

   Reroll once on a fail sounds good, at least until the die roller stops its crazy antics.  If it ever does, I would be in favor of reverting to normal rolling.


   I think the threat of a re-roll was enough to whip the dice roller back into shape.  At least for me. :)
This message was last edited by the player at 19:11, Tue 13 Jan 2009.

MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE DICE ROLLER
I got this from a player in another game.  I don't know how true it is.  But if it is true, then it might be a big help:



It seems true, given the high number of 1's rolled.

That makes sense to me.  Leave off the modifers and add them in afterwards.

I have seen this rolling around a lot.  And have not found it to be true.

The best I have found however is to roll a test then roll for real.  That almost always gets it to behave.  (I do this in my games sometimes).

But the biggest thing I find is time of day.  If I roll a d20 early morning my time I almost always roll below 9 natural.  If I roll a d20 in the afternoon my time I almost always roll 14 plus natural.  However the d6's are almost the opposite.  In the morning I can do a stat set roll and get high average (14's and 15's a lot) but in the afternoon I get average to low average (10's average with a couple 6's in the mix).

There are of course counters.

One thing we could do here is this for attacks as I have found it to counter much RPOL RNG annoyance.

Roll 2d20 + Modifier drop lowest.  But that nearly always guaruntees no 1's BTW.  Otherwise the GM can look at other things.

One other thing I've seen the GM's do is not have characters roll their attack dice, only their damage dices or not at all and do the rolls themselves.  That is working well in 1 other game I'm in, but working poorly in another.

It's the problems with RNG in any system I've found.

  Yeah, I know you can roll over a 20.  But I wasn't sure if there was some truth to it.  A bug that sometimes does this, but not all the time.

  But you can roll well, not just the afternoon.  I actually got a 14 by using it.  Followed up by a 4.  Though that was a minute later.  But that was an improvement at least.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:44, Tue 13 Jan 2009.

The rolls from Cats post average to 10.3 or so.  Under 10.5, but not by much.

Sounds like a lot of concern over the rolls.  A lot.

Trust in the gods of randomness.  These are feelings and "tests."  Take your random rolls, run a t-test, see if 10.5 falls in your sample, then move on.

Oh, and it is also

Rolling Wagon of Flaming Doom^TM

  The concern is over the consistently low rolls in the games, and especially a large number of 1's.  At least one roll of 1 each round, Zer-Wedula.

   See, this is exactly what I mean.  Something is wrong:

21:31, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 5 using 1d20. Cat's Reroll.
21:31, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 3 using 1d20. Garious Bite.
21:31, Today: Catessa Fallowfield rolled 1 using 1d20. Cat's Spear.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:41, Wed 14 Jan 2009.

I don't argue with your limited data.  Don't argue with my point that it is limited data.

  I wasn't arguing, only illustrating the point.  If you haven't been afflicted by horrible dice rolls, you are one of the lucky ones.

Yes.  Yes, I am.

I'm relying on the goblins to roll 1's as well.

Lmao, everyone in my apartment got a good laugh out of that.

I'm glad you have a sense of humor about that fickle lady luck.  :)

What you need is some sort of fighting from the prone position feat, then just lay possum.

lol, some wisdom and extra hit points probably wouldn't hurt either.

Cat, I think I'll take you up on that healing spell. Infact, however much you're charging, go ahead and start a tab for me.

  I'm not gonna make you pay for healing Talis.  But I'd rather this goblin be dead before I start. :)

Dang Zer-Wedula, an excellent idea... what's that Brazilian martial art called?  The one based on a dance?  that has a lot of fighting from prone in it.

So for that matter, does Krav Mega.

Capoeira.  It's very fun to practice but some of the higher up stuff can be a bit dizzying.

Yeah, that's the bunny!

I was figuring a Jackie Chan helicopter up into a fighting position, although extra points accrue, of course, for executing The Worm during the fight.

Shouldn't our monk be doing all this stuff?

Well, he's only 1st level just out of the monastery. Give him a bit.

so are we outside or inside now?

Still outside, the sun is just below the horizon and the last light of day is beginning to fade away.  This little section (the swallowtail festival raid is almost over, I want to give you a day to interact with each other and with the few npc's.  Sat I will start the final encounter.

I'll be gone again this weekend, same as last one. As before, DM, feel free to NPC me. Standard method of attack still applicable.

I'm BACK!!! YAY

2 days and I missed a lot.  SOrry guys

we missed you.

I seem to be having some trouble uploading the current map, will keep trying.

I'm back.
I'll be away the two following weekends though, but I shouldn't have any problem posting this coming weekend, regardless. The one after that, no such luck.

[Private to DM: Thank you for NPCing me, and not just leaving me there to drool a puddle. I'm sorry about this weekend thing, I hope it's not too much of an inconvenience.]

[Private to Garth Oakenshield: Don't take this personally, others have tried to use this skill before.  You just happen to be the latest.]
In Combat INTIMIDATE (CHA)
Demoralize Opponent: You can also use Intimidate to weaken an opponent’s resolve in combat. To do so, make an Intimidate check opposed by the target’s modified level check (see above). If you win, the target becomes shaken for 1 round.(*see below) A shaken character takes a –2 penalty on attack rolls, ability checks, and saving throws. You can intimidate only an opponent that you threaten in melee combat and that can see you.
Action: Varies. Intimidating an opponent in combat is a standard action.
Try Again: Optional, but not recommended because retries usually do not work. Even if the initial check succeeds, the other character can be intimidated only so far, and a retry doesn’t help. If the initial check fails, the other character has probably become more firmly resolved to resist the intimidator, and a retry is futile.
Special: You gain a +4 bonus on your Intimidate check for every size category that you are larger than your target. Conversely, you take a –4 penalty on your Intimidate check for every size category that you are smaller than your target.
A character immune to fear can’t be intimidated, nor can nonintelligent creatures.
If you have the Persuasive feat, you get a +2 bonus on Intimidate checks.
Synergy: If you have 5 or more ranks in Bluff, you get a +2 bonus on Intimidate checks.

There seems to be at little misunderstanding about Intimidating an opponent in combat.  It is a standard action and attacking is a standard action, you can't do both in 1 round.  It also is used against a single target.  For Roleplaying purposes, you can let out a mighty battle cry and weak monsters will be suitably impressed, and I may use it for morale purposes.  But it won't have any mechanical effect, aside from possible morale modifiers.  I like the Roleplaying aspect of it and would like to encourage you to keep yelling and what not, I just don't want you to get discouraged by a lack of mechanical effect.

Typically, intimidation is most useful against singular opponents who won't go down in 1 blow and need to be softened up, or against an opponent you don't want to kill.

*The duration of 1 round seems wrong.  I will allow the opponent to remain shaken for a minute or the rest of the combat.




Out of Combat INTIMIDATE (CHA)
Check: You can change another’s behavior with a successful check. Your Intimidate check is opposed by the target’s modified level check (1d20 + character level or Hit Dice + target’s Wisdom bonus [if any] + target’s modifiers on saves against fear). If you beat your target’s check result, you may treat the target as friendly, but only for the purpose of actions taken while it remains intimidated. (That is, the target retains its normal attitude, but will chat, advise, offer limited help, or advocate on your behalf while intimidated. See the Diplomacy skill, above, for additional details.) The effect lasts as long as the target remains in your presence, and for 1d6×10 minutes afterward. After this time, the target’s default attitude toward you shifts to unfriendly (or, if normally unfriendly, to hostile).
If you fail the check by 5 or more, the target provides you with incorrect or useless information, or otherwise frustrates your efforts.
Action: Varies. Changing another’s behavior requires 1 minute of interaction.


It is useful out of combat to get information and to "persuade" someone to help you.  But be aware, you will make enemies when you use it.

DM wrote: Wow, everyone hit.  good.


I hear complaints about the dice roller in the goblin tongue, I do, I do!

Well, while we're waiting.  Has everyone had a chance to look over the town and npc's?  What npcs/locations are your characters interested in visiting/exploring?  Any thoughts on what you might do after the raid is over?  For the next few days?

I hope everyone is having fun so far and if anyone has a problem, frustration or idea, feel free to let me know.

  I'm having fun.  Are you saying that there is no fixed plot, and we can choose what we want to pursue?

  If so, my vote would be to get out of town, maybe find some mystical ruins or enchanted forest to explore (or something like that.  I'm a druid, after all :) ).  Find some opponents other than humanoids maybe.  Level up a couple times, and get some magic objects so that I'm not always relying on my spear in combat.  Have some good, non-combat challenges.

  I was going to ask around town for opportunities for adventure.  Maybe some worthwhile quest to help someone.  Maybe to search the town, trying to identify the traitorous 'longshanks'.   That sort of thing.

Leveling up a few times would be nice.  I can't wait to get my Flight Invocation.  FLYING GNOME at 10 O'Clock!!!

Sorry, no, this is an adventure path, so there is a plot moving along.  But at the same time, the town is a sandbox for you to explore, meet and interact with interesting people.  I just don't have the time to devote to making a proper "go anywhere"/sandbox adventure.  I'm basically asking if there are particular locations or people from the lists that you want to see?

Flying gnome....LOL, so doyou wear skirts... (did I say that out loud)

Right now?  Breaches.  Don't want to many people getting a peak at my posterier if I go commando.

  Ok.  Any interesting places in the town for adventurers?  Perhaps Catacombs, sewer, burial mounds, etc?

Sandpoint is too new to have a large catacomb or burial mound and to small to have an extensive sewer system.  I will see what I can come up with on the hinterlands map.

Hmm... Talis, if he finds the time, intends to head half a day north of town for a day or two, to see if he can find the burned remains of his old home. If he gets around to it, anyway.

I think a talk with Belor Hemlock and Kendra Deverin might be in order as well.

Other then that, Talis will be playing tag along I think, and playing his Violin in the Rusty Dragon at sundown every night he is in town. Something static incase anyone needs to find him.

   Cat will go with Talis when he leaves town. :)

Thanks, lol. My life probably depends on it.

Naomi will probably stick around Garth and bother him, well either that or ride on his shoulders and tease him.

Get my room at the White Tail Deer, visit Voon's shop, get a reading from Mvashti, and see what the Goblin Smash proprietor thinks about this attack.  Oh, and flounce about in a superior manner.

Garth will enjoy his night at the inn, taking up the offer of free drinks as he flirts a bit with the village girls.  The next morning he will see about having the binding on his new sword's hilt fitted more tightly by the armouror and he will be in his full armor when he pays the sheriff a visit.

Glum will spend the evening in prayer, contemplation and hardly any debauchery at all.

  Cat with follow the other to the inn.  She'll take her meal with the others, and refrain from drinking more than half a glass of wine.

I'm waiting on you folks to talk to each other and make some general plans.  Most are going to visit the Sheriff and don't forget Niska Mvashtis cryptic message or Aldern's invitation.

  I forgot completely about the Wise Woman.  I'd probably see the Sheriff first, then Nishva.  And go from there.  If the group doesn't have a coherent plan by then, Cat will go off with Talis.  Assuming the whole group doesn't decide to come along.

That is a flaw of pbp, the length of time it takes to play.  And in my limited experience, it seems like we are moving right along (for pbp).  On the other hand, you can always go back and read what has gone before.  I've done a written story/log for a RL pnp game and it took quite a bit of time.

My bad. I'm not sure why, but at the time, it seemed a good idea for me to make a single post covering the span of 16 or so hours. I really don't know where my mind was.

Wait, wise woman? Yea, I need to go back and reread some stuff.

Agreed, Cat. If we have a coherent plan, I'm putting off my little foray. If we don't though, or we have some downtime, anyone who wants to get out of town for a day or two will be welcome to come with.

Normally that is fine (posting a day or two at a time), but we're at a delicate spot right now with the pc's together, but still not a group.  That and I'm still working on the posting for the next chapter.  Should be ready by tonight.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:57, Fri 23 Jan 2009.

I feel a bit silly having to ask, but it's early here, I'm too lazy to go shopping so I've been living on pancakes for the past 3 days, a good book has left me sleep deprived, and various other excuses...

but what does the sheriff want Glum, Naomi, and I to do? See if theres a conection between what, exactly?

He wants us to ask around and see if anyone knows of any connection between the goblin attack and the body theft (while being subtle and not mentioning the body theft as that will cause a panic).

Thanks, I don't know why that was so hard for me to figure out. Seeing as how it was litteraly there in black and white.

If anyone else wants to take the dunce cap for a while, I won't mind. Really =)

Yes.  And you might be able to get answers as a private citizens easier than as guards, at least in certain areas.  So do you 3 want to ask questions as a group or split up.  That is 1 big advantage pbp has over pnp, it's much easier on the dm when the party to splits up.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:41, Sun 25 Jan 2009.

I may manage to post today, but maybe not.  I depends on how RL goes.  Will post monday definitely.

I would prefer the three of us to go about together, unless circumstance finds it imperative that we split up. I don't trust myself to view a situation from every necessary angle, and I don't trust my hit points to keep me standing if trouble shows.

I was also wondering if each respective group would be getting their own thread?

If someone really wants to have their own thread, i can arrange that.  But I think it would be fun to read what everyone else is doing.  If someone wants to conduct some business in private, PM me.

I'm cool with either.

BTW, In my game I've got the groups separate but under the same Group number.  That way everyone can see what everyone else is doing but not getting held up or bogged down by the other posts.

thats a good idea, I will work on separate threads to help organization, thanks.  I'll work on that later.

I'm a bit busy today with some stuff, I'll have to put in my post tonight.

  I've been a bit busy.  My posting will probably be slower than usual for a bit.

I'm being forcibly restrained from the computer till late this eavening. I apologise for the inconvenience, and my lack of foresight in not having enough sufaces here to eat upon.

Real gamers don't need to eat...or is that, they need to eat twice as much.  I get those confused.

   Sorry I posted ahead of you Garth.  But I wanted to get my post in while I could.

We can run the individual threads and the main sandpoint thread at the same time, so feel free to respond to both.

Sorry about my absence yesterday, I'm more then a little bogged down at the moment. I'm still here though, I assure you.
Just a reminder, I won't be able to post this Friday or Saturday (or next weekend for that matter, either) but will be back on Sunday.
I'm going to be off for the rest of the day after I go post, but I'll be back on around Midnight, Eastern time, and I'll get another post in before the weekend, if I have the chance.

On a somewhat related topic, there are three things I truly hate.
1: Anything white and fluffy.
2: Anything cold.
3: Anything that children play in.

Each flake of snow that falls, is a fingernail drawn against the blackboard of my mind, and there is about a half a foot of misery covering my city.

LOL, I'm thinking you must live where it snows a lot.

I moved here from Florida. If I see a flake in the sky, I buy half a dozen space heaters and start proclaiming "Cats Cradle" is a prophecy, not a story.

But Ice-9 is not cold like snow is.

Hmm... true.
What's a story where the world does a cold freeze, rather then a sort of luke warm freeze? Whatever that is, thats the new prophecy!

Alright, I'm off.

Try living in Chicago, winters last forever here.  We get excited when the temp gets over 20 degrees.

  I don't mind snow at all.  I like it.  But ice is a different story.  I live along the line where snowstorms tend to be a mix of snow, sleet, and freezing rain.  That is no fun.

I'm about an hour southwest of there lol. Not as much lake effect here, but it's still worse then I like.

The only good thing about snow, is snowboarding. I'll agree though, that ice is worse. A couple weeks ago I slid about a mile and a half, going too and from a computer lab.

I grew up about four miles north of the site of the annual British Outdoor speedskating championships.  This year is the first time for about ten years that the venue actually got cold enough to hold the championships.

You guys/gals aren't waiting for me are you?  I'm giving you some time for character interactions, exploring the city and such. I'm also trying to give you a reason to stay together.  After this first split up.

So how is everyone doing, enjoying the ride?  Have any suggestions?

  Sorry my posting is slow.  I'm having a RL problem.  Or I should say, it is one of my friends, going through a hard time.  It's taking up my time and stressing me out.  So my posting will be slow until further notice.  Please NPC me if necessary.

Sorry I've been slow.  I sang the Blues yesterday and then joined Facebook so my boss can send me the videos... and I didn't know Facebook could be so fascinating.

Raises hand
I have no complaints, I just can't seem to get a weekend to my self. I am waiting on someone to answer the door at the seers home though.

The door was opened , seemingly of it own accord, and she said to take a seat, 1.2/#33.  Go ahead and post in 1.2 to madame Nis, she'll answer your questions.  Im going to give Talis, and anybody who wants to 1 more day to respond to her.  Then you can respond in the "sub group threads if you want to do something private.   Finally I will post the dinner party tomorrow.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:54, Mon 02 Feb 2009.

Gah, Sorry, I wasn't reading any thread except mine, Glum, and Naomi's. I was trying to cut down on metagame knowledge, seems I did that and more.

EDIT: But after reading what she had to say, I've got nothing to add.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:45, Tue 03 Feb 2009.

For Talis, Naomi, Glum and Zer-wedula, I am waiting to see who goes on the boar hunt and who doesn't.
Talis, ?
Naomi, no
Glum, no
Zer-wedula, yes

We will go ahead and proceed with things and edit Talis into the boar hunt later.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:52, Fri 06 Feb 2009.

Boar hunt?   Hrmmm.. missed that... *rereads upwards a bit* No, I wouldn't wish to go on one.  My characters kinda the Light side of the Warlock coin, not the Darkside.  Killings alright in the heat of battle, not alright for pleasure she would see it as.

Ok, Talis has been MIA since tues, so I am going to NPC him a little.  To even things out, Talis will go on the boar hunt with Zer-wedula.  Consult 1.2 Zer-wedula for details.


Talis
When you come back, just jump in and start posting.

Ah, Talis, my human shield.

Glum is still here.  Just not up for a boar hunt.

I could swear I posted on Saturday stating my intention to go around the back of the building... It was my last post on RPOL that day and then I turned the computer off.  Guess it didn't post through, Sorry bout that GM.  Waiting on the response after Glum to continue.

To err is human, to really foul things up requires a computer.

I was kind of hoping for a return of Talis, but maybe he got boared!

dices were kind to me this morn.  That's odd.

Naomi Armastance = Yes
Glum = Yes
Catessa Fallowfield & Garious = RL problems; npc since 1/30
Zer-wedula  = yes
Garth = yes
Talis = last post tue 3rd = ???


So what is a standard length of time for unexplained absences before you look to do something?  How long would you want me to wait?  Cat has extra time because she informed us of her absence.

I doubt if I will replace anyone, though I might continue the character(s) as an NPC.  I think 4 or 5 players is enough.  The game should move quicker with fewer players.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:37, Fri 13 Feb 2009.

Go ask Talis, when he just small.....

Seriously, I consider him gone, altho I do remember a post about being incommunicado for two weekends in a row.  Let's give him this coming week.

The way I run games is thus for AFK's (Away from Keyboard) that are unannounced

4 days once or twice a month, acceptable
6 days away - PM and request to explain and NPC them in the meantime
2 weeks - Cull the player from the game, keep the Character as an NPC in case they return and can take it back over.

After the 6th day of absence (Unless I have several players held up on that one players post) I just start and keep them NPC'd with a notice and dock their XP for being gone.

I found this a good system.

Once I cull them I post a players wanted if needed or I shrink the group accordingly.

We will be fast forwarding some by monday.  I am currently working on getting everyone back to town and together as a group.  When I do, I will post it in 1.2 Sandpoint.


Thanks for the input.  Currently Talis and Cat are NPC's and unless the original people return, I don't feel the need for more players.  I imagine the game will go quicker with 4 players + 2 npc's.


Notice the Sandpoint Info thread now includes an exp total for the characters.  Everyone get +200 (total 750xp now)
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:23, Sat 14 Feb 2009.

Am I getting too confusing switching back and forth between threads? I noticed nobody has answered my last post?  Does this mean you just want to move on with the plot?

In my case it means I'm sick I'm afraid.  Probably be able to post by the weekend.

Get Well Soon

Ok, try looking here for a game map.  Let me know if you can see it or not.


http://www2.snapfish.com/slide...1694151/t_=161694151

The kids or a passer by to get the watch are good choices, now which door do you choose?  Awhile back in this thread I suggested appointing a leader for just this reason, which door do you choose?  I think what I will try this time is the 1st person to post gets to choose among equally valid choices.  This is to save time on a discussion.

Also, please post what your characters SOP will be.

I may get sporadic this week - I have a project I need to complete by Friday, but will try to get on each morning.

I keep forgetting this.  At the top of your posts could you put your name and hp;

DM
7/10

Thanks

This is a weeks notice, but in One Week I'm going to be going on a very important business trip for the company I'm an owner/vested interest in.  I'll be going down to a trade show with a few industrialists and do not know if I'll be able to post while down there.

It is from Next Tuesday March 3rd to March 8th.  The exciting thing is that it is a very large Natural Products Expo (here's the link http://www.expowest.com/ew09/public/enter.aspx ) for those interested.  However while there I have no clue if I'll have Internet or if I'll even have time to get online if I do.

I'll post this again right before I leave however.  Once I'm back I'll update what posts I need to and take stock of the situation.  Thank again everyone.

check, thanks for the heads up.  I don't mind if people are gone, I just appreciate being told.

Yeah, Same for me.  But since this will be more than a couple days I decided to give a full heads up ahead of time.

It'll be pretty exciting to.  These trade show's are a blast.  I can't wait to see what some of the different companies have put up this time around.

good deal, have fun

Ok, Talis has been MIA for 3 weeks and I have replaced him with a RL friend of mine who will be posting through me.  He has lots of experience.

I'm wondering if we should post a marching order as the stair is single file.

For now, we will go with the order from the map.  But for future reference, what order would you like for
a)single file,
b)10' wide,
c)more than 10' wide?

Zer-wedula in the middle protected by various red shirts!

My account on this site has been acting weird.  I will open up a game and all the threads will be marked "unread", even if they have nothing new in them.  When I read 1 thread and go back, they re all normal.  Anyone else experiencing anything strange with their RPOL accounts?

Occasionally I have had similar events occur when logging on.

Alright guys,

Just finished up with my tradeshow, and have a whoppin ton of paperwork to follow up with.  However this is to let everyone know I have returned and will be able to catch up/post/etc in the next couple of days.

I hope to have more posted today but need to get back to work on correlating my various projects I picked up from the show.

Ummm... what the.... New Ability?  Coolness of course.  A little bit more info would help out of course so that I can figure out how to RP it out.

At 2nd level Warlocks can detect magic at will.  You still have to concentrate to use it, see the detect magic spell.

Oh, that's what you meant.

Cool.

Ask the mages in town if they can identify the items, then see who can best use them.  Pay the mages out of reward money and town's gratitude.

I agree with Zer-Wedula on the mages of the town for Identify.  However I can ID anything 'As Magical' now as a class trait.  *yay*

Also i really only have a need for a Ring or for valuables to assist later.  And the ring only for certain needs, depending on what it is I'd gladly give it up for another player.

Glum's a monk and will probably have to give anything monetary above a certain level to beggars or use it in charitable works.  The only things I can imagine being useful to him are the sack or goblet  (or possibly the goblin charms depending what they do).

Does anyone have any general or specific subplots they are interested in for their characters?

No subplots here, let's move the plot along for my vote.

I agree with Zer-wedula

I thought we could start discussing treasure division here.

scroll (arcane - true strike)
*%Eternal Flame torch x2, ,
*a small sack (with runes on it and trail rations in it),
Everlasting Rations 1/day create trail rations for 1 med creature
*a pewter mug (12 oz, with a rune on the bottom),
Everfull Mug 3/day fill with 12 oz of water, wine, beer or ale (cheap quality)
*a potion with an identifiying mark that says it's a cure potion CLW
*<Yellow>ring,  of protection +1ac(deflection)
*<Yellow>Crude Goblin Charms on a string of cat gut around his neck
     - dogs ear and a cats paw, with runic pictures inscribed
Goblin Charms (takes amulet slot) - dogs ear 1/day reroll 1 listen or spot check
                                  - cats paw 1/day reroll 1 balance, climb or tumble check
it automatically rerolls the 1st failure in the day
* = magic




a journal,
halfelf sized clothes,
masterwork flute(100gp)
composite shortbow (+1 Strength),
Quiver w/ 18 mw arrows,
masterwork thieves’ tools,
silver earrings (25 gp for the pair),
10 pp


% = Obviously stolen from the glassworks/Kaijitsu family
%6 pouches of gold dust ( 50 gp each with a symbol on them, the owners mark),
%8 pouches of silver dust(5gp each with a symbol on them, the owners mark),
%a signet ring (that matches the owners mark on the bags of gold and silver)

So the question is, how do you want to divide the loot?

Glum, there is no RAW that monks HAVE to be poor, but it does make for good roleplaying.  So it s up to you how much of your share you give to charity.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:00, Sat 14 Mar 2009.

My thought is that Naomi takes the ring, as I can get by with spells and Glum probably has a decent Dex/Wis bonus to AC.  Scroll to me by default as only user.  Amulet to Glum as he is most likely to use said skills.

Do we dump the rest and see if we can upgrade Garth's weapon or armor?  I would say yes.

Glum would like to wait and see what others want.  He hopes for the goblin charms but would settle for the sack or the goblet.

He suggests returning the stolen stuff to Ameiko.  He'll probably give away 90% of any monetary reward.

In reply to Zer-wedula (msg #274):

Sounds good to me.

So it sounds like we are more or less in agreement, GLum takes the charms, NAomi the ring, Zer-wedula the scroll, we return the glassmakers goods, then try to trade the rest to upgrade Garth's weapon/armor.

Then off to creepy tunnel.

DO we want to bring some premade molotovs?  Buy tanglefoot bags or thunderstones if available?

Ameiko will let you keep the Eternal Flame torchs and they aren't "real" magic items anyway.  You will need a light source, so someone will have to carry a torch.

What about Talis and Cat?  While Cat is currently an npc, she should get a share.



Garth has been offered a mw bastard sword for (if I recall correctly) 1/2 price (lets say 170gp).

I'm waiting for naomi to weigh in on this subject, but while we wait, how about a marching order (single file please).

I agree with Zer-Wedula BTW on the arrangement of goods for the most part.

Cat should get some of the loot as well of course, dunno what her char would like the most though.

I should go near last in a marching order as I use a Ranged Touch Attack and have a high Dex to hit bonus.  This'll allow me to cover fire from any attack direction.

I think Marching Order should be, Garth, Cat and Dog, Zer-wedula, Talis, Naomi and Glum, with Garth defending against attacks from the front, and Glum from the rear.

Don't forget, everyone needs to update to 2nd level
max hp
all skills cost 1 point

As soon as I see that everyone has updated their character sheets and posted in 1.3 we can continue.



Naomi Armastance
ring of protection +1ac(deflection)

Glum
Crude Goblin Charms on a string of cat gut around his neck
     - dogs ear and a cats paw, with runic pictures inscribed
Goblin Charms (takes amulet slot) - dogs ear 1/day reroll 1 listen or spot check
                                  - cats paw 1/day reroll 1 balance, climb or tumble check
it automatically rerolls the 1st failure in the day

Catessa Fallowfield & Garious
Everlasting Rations; a small sack (with runes on it and trail rations in it), 1/day create trail rations for 1 med creature

Zer-wedula
scroll (arcane - true strike),

Garth
the group buys him the MW bastard sword(+1 to hit) that Savah was finishing.

Talis
composite shortbow (+1 Strength),
Quiver w/ 18 mw arrows,
masterwork thieves’ tools

Everyone
Eternal Flame torch x2
100gp each
wand clw (20 chgs)
Tsutos journal
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:31, Mon 16 Mar 2009.

My suggestion;

Garth, Talis, Zer-wedula, Cat and Dog, Naomi and Glum

Talis has a reach weapon and can attack "around" Garth and
the Cat/Garious combo has really good movement.

I need to know who has a light source.  You have 2 eternal flame torches available.  And what does garth have equipped - sword/shield or sword 2handed
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:04, Tue 17 Mar 2009.

Garth will have sword and shield so he can take advantage of both a swing and a shield bash at 0/-5 with all bonus and penalties taken into account (and no loss to AC for use of shield with shield bash feat).  With Power Attack it would be -1/-5.  Unless noted, he will not use power attack with a secondary shield bash attack.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:50, Tue 17 Mar 2009.

funny

I ain't carrying no light.  Let the dog carry the heatless stick

Are we back to full HP upon entering the tunnels?

If the group was entirely small characters, a dog with a torch would be feasible.  But with medium sized creatures, he is too low to effectively light up the whole party.  A torch needs to be up high to effectively light up the party.  So again, who is carrying a torch (clearly illuminates a 20-foot radius and provides shadowy illumination out to a 40-foot radius).

Hrmmm... Garth, do you have a pack on?  If so I'd suggest strapping it to your pack and I'll carry the other.  I have no probs carrying one as it won't interfere with my abilities.

But Garth will be at the range of the 20' range and striking into shadowy light otherwise.

Thats fine, Garth is pretty tall and as the torch carries to heat, it should be safe to strap onto his pack.

I'm off on business Tues-Thurs, so NPC me as needed.

Heh.  I just got back from Business, sorry for the no warning. My hotel was supposed to have wi-fi but their router was deader than a mouse in a trap.

I'm back

huzzah

Huzzah Huzzah

Glum, reread msg #166, you were healed 8 points and were out of the range of the acid.

OOps, edited.

I think we need us a real cleric.

Everyone, please recheck you max hp.  You get max at 1st and 2nd, then a fixed amount.  See " RTJ and character creation (read first)" thread.

Naomi, I hope everything ok with you.

   Well, it's been a week since Naomi has been on.  After this dungeon (if she survives), I plan on moving Naomi into the background.  The character will still be around for a couple of months if and when her player return.

   Cat will have a new player soon.

Is it something I said or is "Real Life"^tm getting in the way all at once?

No.  I just don't know what to do.  (I can't look at pictures at work so they don't help, but I've a feeling all Glum can do is wait for Garth and/or Cat to get out of the way.

You are close enough to move into the room and attack.

I will be posting the next room later on this morning unless you want to do something else 1st.

Wow, 3 misses against zombies.  This is not a good way to start :)

Garth
Glum
Zer-wedula

So did everybody get busy or have you just lost interest in the game?  If you are still interested, we have probably lost Naomi.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:31, Tue 14 Apr 2009.

Good to see both of you back.  Zer should be back in May.

Man, if Garth is missing with a 19, he's in some big trouble against this thing;)

hold that thought, I miss read your post and took the damage as your hit.  Maybe I ought to get my glasses checked.  I will edit in what happened, so feel free to edit your next rounds actions.  Sorry.

No worries

Garth
Glum

So did everybody get busy or have you just lost interest in the game?  Let me know.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:12, Sat 18 Apr 2009.

Umm, I was the last to post wasn't I?  And it was only three days ago.

Yeah, but Garth went from a consistent poster to a 5 day interval followed by at least a 3.  With Naomi gone, Cat's new player not showing up and Zer-wedula gone till May [Private to Glum: and I give it a 50/50 chance he returns]I am worried.  That leaves 2 people and I don't want to run with just 2 characters.  Do you have any ideas or suggestions?

I'd quite like to know what happened to Naomi but apart from that, no I don't have much in the way of suggestions.  I suppose you could advertise for more, but that rarely works.

I don't know, Naomi just stopped posting.  I am hoping this is just a temporary thing with Garth.  One idea I have is to turn it into a gestalt game with 3 or 4 players.  That concentrates the DM's attention and reduces waiting for response time.

I think what slows games down so often is combat.  All of a sudden, posting rates go down at a time when it would be real nice to up the speed.  And worse still, I'm sure there are only so many things one can do.

Sorry all, I don't post as often between Sundays and Tuesdays due to my work schedule.  Also we are busy with a house closing currently.  That said, I will try and increase my posting frequency.

hurray

Does anyone have any clever ideas?  Otherwise she can just hover out of reach, throwing her dagger at you (or casting spells). Until you kill her or she kills you.  And I can roll a bunch of rounds of that.  What do you want to do?
1)Go round by round or
2)Give me some tactics you might try and I cut scene to the a dramatic point in the battle?

Garth and Glum
Please post 6 rounds of ideas and attacks
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:04, Wed 22 Apr 2009.

Okay, will post in combat thread.

Good idea on the rope use Glum.

Was it something I said...
evidently you have lost interest or have gotten busy.  Please let me know when and if you want to continue and what you would like to change.  I will run this game for people; Talis is 1 and any 2 of Garth, Glum and Zer-wedula.

   I think what we could do is have a rebirth event occur.  This would be a good time and place in the story for it to occur.  You could keep the same character, but rebuild them.

Sorry all but I am not going to be able to carry on.  I just bought a house and will be very busy this next month getting the move done.  I have enjoyed this game though and perhaps can join again once things settle down a bit.

I was hoping to wait for somebody else to post before me... anybody else in fact, because my move is likely to be, Glum runs up to quasit, glum kicks quasit, dice roller rolls 3, Glum misses.  Combat is boring, bnut even more so when there is nobody else posting.

Besides, if Garth can't play and Zer-wedula's away indefinitely, the chances aren't good.

Sorry to see you go Garth.  I will keep you active for a couple of months.

Glum
Well, Zer-wedula logged in sat, but didn't post, so I don't know if he is active or not.  I hope he is.  I am going to give him a couple more days, but in the mean time I will post a narrative of the rest of the battle and afterwards.

Basically I want to try to continue with only 3 or 4 people. My theory is that fewer players mean less waiting and more time to shine.  Check back in a couple of days and we will see how things are going.  As for the time being I am going to post a "looking for replacement" and see who responds.

We are currently in a brief intermission period until Zer returns and Cat is brought up to speed.

I got a reply from Zer-wedula, he will be back soon and I have a person interested in playing Cat.   What I propose is to continue with
Cat
Glum
Talis
Zer-wedula
(and Garth when he returns).

I would like to make the characters Gestalt; http://www.systemreferencedocu...nearthedGestalt.html
basically you choose 2 classes to advance at the same time and get the better of both.  For simplicities sake, you will be limited to just 2, no other multi-classing beyond a Prestige Class (if you want one).

Gestalt makes for slightly more powerful and more versatile characters.  I haven't made a final decision yet because I want your input.  If you need help with it, ask me.

The in-game effect is you will gain a 2nd soul, that of a dead hero, to aid you in your quest.

Vote now, Getalt or No Gestalt?

I vote no gestalt.  Glum's just getting to the stage of monkish effectiveness.

Thanks Glum.

So, did you do something to your character potrait, or is it just me.  I get a "picture not available".  I bet it's the website.

*waves* Give me a bit to reflesh out Catessa, then I'll catch up on the action.

It's the website I'm afraid.  Happens from time to time.

Should I work more on my char? I have no idea what to say to groups.

Yes, take Cat and make her a druid/warlock.  Heres a list of invocations,

http://www.wizards.com/default...ions&tablesort=4

Currently we are waiting for Cat to get up to speed, Zer to return and everybody to update to Gestalt.

I think I've finished Gestalting Glum.

I'm back.  I assume level 2 for gestalt.  I'm going barbarian.

Good to have you back.

Go ahead and do 3/3 wiz/barbarian.  Wacky.  I once played a halforc barbarian1/wiz, that d12 for hp is great.

I am working on the treasure post.

f/r
w/b
m/c
d/w

Best I ever did was a Barbarian Monk... supposedly impossible but I had her change alignment in Newgate Gaol.  She still had the Barbarian's speed and some other feats but no more rage because she'd become lawful.

I think I'm set, just need to buy me a great sword.

Just swapped out Levitate from my spell list for Bull's Strength.

My new personality sneers at the treasure except for the masterwork ranseur.  If no one else can use the scrolls and wand Zer-wedula will gladly use them for the good of the group.

I guess we are waiting for Cat and Talis to gestalt.

Oh well.  Kinda hoped to get that resolved before bedtime so I could sleep.

Please note the following additional House Rules;

Heal Skill: First Aid at o hp on yourself is a Move action(but only in this situation).  Dc 15; success means you may now take a single standard action and not risk further injury.  If you take a full round action or any 2 actions, you still take 1 dam and start to bleed.

So the heal skill is useful at 0 hp.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:20, Tue 26 May 2009.

Well there's good news and bad news.

Good News:
I am probably back among the ranks of the gainfully employed.

Bad News:
I won't post as often (1/day, maybe twice).  But the game will continue.

Game on.

I rolled as you posted.

I didn't even notice, thanks for the heads up.

RE: Chap 1.2 So, Cat and Glum are together?

more or less, yes.  The Toy Monster has vanished, for now.....(cur ominous background music)

Currently waiting for Cat and Glums questions as well.

Sorry, Cat doesn't have much to ask. She's too disgusted with goblins. I should've posted something but kept drawing blanks.

Glum has no questions either.  Not because he's disgusted, more because he has come to the understanding that one has to here some answers before one thinks of further questions.

So are you going to cast a spell or not?

I was waiting on group input as to
a) burning the thicket
b) staking the goblin out for whatever creature passes by
c) Casting Charm person
d) both a and b
e) both a and c

Many of these have merit!

Not A!!!