No way around that princess... ;)
This message was last updated by the GM at 18:08, Mon 22 Aug 2016.

Come in and grab a bite. Cookies over there, chocolate over here.

You can start your character sheets under the "character details" in the bar on the top. If feeling adventurous or bored, you can make the sheets look nice via /help/content.cgi?t=help&page=easytable .

So, two players have reported for now, that's nice!

Hello all.

And then there were three little piglets.

Let's have some activity. Shoot me ideas for the first scene, and short term plans for your characters. Let's have stuff out in the open.

I have an idea:

In the first iteration of this game, I had this scene where a bully tried to mess with me (stealing my plush doll Shikigami), only for it to go badly for him. Maybe we could reenact it, only with a larger group of thugs and a cavalry scene.

So we could have Shira use her Jew Jitsu Kensai (hmmm... Tesai? nvm) education methods on the thugs? Also, looking at Shira's stats... she _is_ the cavalry. Unless the other girls are seriously buff, they won't be helping by much - unless you want to ramp up the emotional content ("Thanks for saving me! I thought I they would... would... *stamps attacker in the nuts repeatedly while she sniffles*"). As first scenes go, it's not bad, and we could use it to tie all of your characters together.

I like what you've done with the character sheet. Do you have a blank one I could post as a template for everyone?

Shira might be tough, but I don't think she can necessarily take on an entire football team by herself, especially when they've got a hostage in the form of Inari.

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This message was last edited by the player at 13:45, Wed 24 Aug 2016.

Okay, here's my idea, slight change on http://www.giantitp.com/forums...CR-Before-and-Beside

Shira beats up William and his two cronies and rescues Inari. Unlike in the original game, rather than backing down and becoming scared of Shira, he instead gets together the rest of his possy a few days later and tries for round two. Shira might be able to fight really well, but against 12 dudes she's outmatched. When it looks the worst, that's when Zelda and Shirley pop in.

Just one thing: Shira has a decently high Composure and Emotional Detachment. I see her as being the kind of girl who wouldn't break down crying even if what you're implying happened.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:22, Wed 24 Aug 2016.

I'm fine with whatever sort of setup, really. Have you decided yet when and where the chronicle is taking place?

As for character sheets, I decided I'm going to put all the fluff in the character description here and then just have a link at the top to my Mythweavers sheet.

Also we asked some questions over on GiantITP that I'll reproduce here:

1. Can we use "Optional Rule: Transformed Dots" on page 61? Some of us already have, and it's especially useful for upping one's combat pools while transformed without having to explain why one's character is a master marksman/martial artist.

2. Our first ST gave us all Inner Light 2 for free at start (but then banned us from raising it further with merit dots) for convenience's sake. Would you be willing to do the same? It's not really important but I figure it can't hurt to ask, and also it does fit with some of us having some experience under our belt in our backstories.

EDIT: If MReav has in fact posted Shira's character sheet (with stats) here somewhere then I can't find it.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:45, Wed 24 Aug 2016.

The character sheet as its set up is only viewable by you and the GM. Maybe we could have a thread where we can publicly show our character sheets.

you can put the sheet in your description, then it's publicly viewable.

Transformed dots sounds fine.

You'll start at 1 inner light, but I'll let you engage in limited deficit spending. Just like the government. But no more than 2-3 dots spread out over the char sheet.

In that case I need to decide whether I'd rather have Barrier Jacket or Open Heart as my Practical Charm. I'm kind of leaning towards the one that helps me not die, but only kind of.

Next question: earlier versions of the rules let Shikigami use Bequests and gave them one or two free ones, but now they need to also be Sworn for that. Would Inari (Shira's Shikigami Retainer) cost any extra dots* in order to be Sworn? And how many Bequests would he come with? If we crib from the rules for Ghoul Retainers then he'd have two dots' worth; incidentally, at least in the copy of Vampire I have Ghoul Retainers don't cost any extra, which IMO seems to indicate that neither should Sworn.

* As in would he be e.g.- a three dot Retainer with the dice pools of a two dot Retainer.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:08, Wed 24 Aug 2016.

Huh. I'll have to re-read the damn thing to answer that one. Then again, perhaps I better just wing it and let you have your Sworn for free, then. I don't see the point in insisting that it cost extra if sounds sensible for the character.

However, I might let your Retainer have a quirk for that, one I can exploit later on. Deal?

It's not my Retainer so that's MReav/Shira's call. :P

In other news, yesterday afternoon I PMed (on GiantITP) those of us who haven't put their characters here yet so let's hope that pays off quickly.

Your, as in every players'.

and yes, we should be building up some steam if we want this to get out if port.

Uh, have you been posting on the general forums or does this game have another thread that I can't see for some reason? Just wondering, since I can't help but notice that your post count jumped from 98 to 101.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:23, Thu 25 Aug 2016.

Yup, there are invisible notes threads being filled up with NPCs, ideas, and stuff.

I like to prepare ahead.

The adventures of Gun Princess Mauser will be making an appearance as a TV show, heh.

In other news, I just figured out how best to put a particular aspect of Zelda's character into writing and updated her sheet and details accordingly. Namely, the fact that her love life tends toward being a comedy of errors; see "Zelda in Love" under "Personality" and the new "Condition Descriptions" section at the bottom.

Way back two STs ago I actually homebrewed an extremely elaborate Condition called "Hopeless Romantic" to represent and enforce all that, but eventually realized that I could achieve the same results much more simply and elegantly through liberal use of voluntary dramatic failures and taking the Swooning Condition a lot.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:46, Thu 25 Aug 2016.

Eugh. First off, sorry for my absence. School has eaten up a lot of my time. I'll get into character creation tonight.

Also, as if it wasn't obvious, I messed up on naming my character. How do I change the name in my profile?

You ask the GM to change it for you.

no problem. My own pace will slow for a week or tow (son is starting school, oh the joy)
I'll change your name.

Thanks. My character's real name is Shirley Grant, but I think it would be more appropriate to go by her Noble Alias, Drachenstern.

You can have multiple characters in RPOL, so you'd be able to switch out beteen the two as needed.

Right, but it was really more of a roleplaying decision than anything. She wishes she were Drachenstern instead of Shirley.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:28, Sat 27 Aug 2016.

Lucky for her about Mirrors' Practical Magic then, she's basically halfway there. ;)
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 06:28, Sat 27 Aug 2016.

Okay, I've gotten Shirley's background and such onto her profile. I'm going to get to work on revising her character sheet.

By the way, Zelda, I'm going to use your idea about having Levinbolt as her primary weapon. I'll fluff it as a energy sword. But not like a lightsaber. More like a conduit for Radiant magic. Levinbolt can be used in melee without penalty, right (I might be confusing my combat rules)?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:52, Sun 28 Aug 2016.

If by "without penalty" you mean "without any penalties above and beyond the target's Defense," then yes. Though if you recall way back then I actually quickly came up with a better* idea that you said you liked but then never actually updated your sheet with:

1. Trade in two physical skill dots for transformed dots. Specifically, drop your Firearms 1/Weaponry 2 to Firearms 0/Weaponry 1 so that it'll go up to Firearms 2/Weaponry 3 when you transform.

2. Change your "Kensai" specialty back to "Swords" like it used to be.

3. Replace Fighting Finesse with Area of Expertise (Swords) and Interdisciplinary Specialty (Swords). The second one will need to be transformed-only due to prerequisites but I can't think of a good reason for it to not be transformed-only anyways so whatever, free Beat.

4. Have the same sword be both your Kensai and your Levinbolt.

Altogether that will give you 7 dice with Kensai, 7 dice with Levinbolt, and 5 dice for fencing in mundane form since Shirley's still supposed to be a fencer last I checked. Alternatively, if you'd prefer to drop the second mundane skill dot from Stealth rather than Weaponry (i.e.- have Firearms 0/Stealth 1/Weaponry 2 in mundane form and Firearms 2/Stealth 2/Weaponry 3 while transformed) then you can have 6 dice for mundane fencing which should easily ensure that she's at least one of the best on the team (which is important since depending on how broad "...or let others shine brighter" is meant to be you might otherwise be risking your Specchio every practice).

* For certain definitions of "better" at least; it's still a lot less dot-efficient than "All sword beams, all the time" but you'd have to drop being on the fencing team and that's no fun.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:12, Sun 28 Aug 2016.

I did add the transformed dots, but we never got an answer on whether it was okay to use Interdisciplinary Specialty in that way. Phlegyas, can we get your thoughts on this? For that matter, I'm now curious about how tough it will be for Shirley to keep her Specchio dots available.

Also, I have an idea for Shirley's first scene. I'd like for her to meet another Courtier of Mirrors. If you've watched Fate Zero, the encounter is intended to play out like the episode "Discussing the Grail". That is, they would meet somewhere for drinks (milkshakes, not wine) and a debate on who is more worthy to be the Heir. It'd be up to you whether a fight breaks out during the discussion. :P

I don't recall this being asked, but you mayuse your speciality so.
the difficulty of keeping those dots up, well, as the gynecologist said, it all depends on the young lady.

The courtier of mirrors might have a different concept of what combat is, tho.

That is exactly the sort of thing Interdisciplinary Specialty is for, most people just don't have a way to roll Firearms with a sword is all. Which is probably why he's already said yes.


My guess is it's going to depend a lot on how we want to interpret "...or let others shine brighter." The generous interpretation is "Don't let anyone make you look bad," the difficult interpretation is "Don't let anyone else be the center of attention for any reason." IMO the first of those fits better in context, plus the way I see it the "difficulty" of using Specchio is less that it's supposed to be easy to get banned from and more that not getting banned from it often involves acting in a way that's likely to rub a lot of people the wrong way.

In either case though that's where Shirley's rather... unorthodox views on being an Heir come in. If I'm understanding your concept right then Shirley's goal is to be The Best^TM by proxy, and therefore she's inclined to just say "Good thing I helped isn't it?" in situations where other Mirrors would start desperately insisting that they could totally do better themselves. Needless to say the former tactic is much more likely to go over well with Shirley's audience and therefore to not get her banned from Specchio.


I was more thinking the intro scene(s) would feature some of us already together, but I'm fine with whatever Phlegyas comes up with so whatever. I will say though that the book heavily implies that most meetings between Heirs don't play out nearly so cordially. :P

...Also I think it'd be more fun to have Shirley's first meeting with another Mirror happen a little more of a ways into the story when the rest of us can be there to weigh in and/or sit back and watch the fireworks. ;)
This message was last edited by the player at 01:08, Mon 29 Aug 2016.

That's because it's something that we asked of a previous ST.

Yeah. It's supposed to be in keeping with the Arthurian theme she has going. The King wasn't the best knight (that was either Galahad or Lancelot), but he was arguably the most important one. Similarly, Shirley is working under the assumption that she is the Main Character. She believes the success of her Radiant allies will come about due to her involvement and support.

If you're sensing that a need to be supported in turn and validated plays into this, you are correct.


Works for me. Also, I'm up for whatever type of competition (if not a duel between Heirs) that Shirley's hypothetical rival proposes. Especially if it requires her to enlist the help of her Nakama. Leading to a Power of Friendship aesop.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:58, Mon 29 Aug 2016.

One straggler was caught sniffing around the perimeter of the game and promptly dragged in for questioning. ;)

Or even more especially if the other Heir is expecting Shirley to go it alone but she tags in her nakama and breaks out the friendship speech anyways because that's how she rolls.




Unfortunately it looks like jaybird might possibly be in the midst of an extended AFF (away from forum), his last post on GiantITP was four weeks ago. He's enabled receiving emails though so I'll try that.

For the record, back in the gitp thread I did say that I was going on vacation for a week and might not have wifi.

On another topic, are we still using Myth-weavers?

I am, don't know about anyone else though.

On a related note, I need to go ahead and update that Condition you're using. I'll post it in the GiantITP for looking-nice reasons.

EDIT: <a href="http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21150578&postcount=52">Done</a>. The Condition has now been both streamlined and updated for the current game rules. I also changed it so you can still raise an Echo and still have a limited ability to use Bequests, because it's no fun to be without any powers whatsoever.

EDIT 2: Weird, hyperlink isn't working for some reason.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:36, Mon 29 Aug 2016.

<a href="http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=21150578&postcount=52">Maybe you just can't edit links in for some reason?</a>

EDIT: Nope, that's not it. Guess I'll just do it the boring way:

http://www.giantitp.com/forums...578&postcount=52
This message was last edited by the player at 16:41, Mon 29 Aug 2016.

Okay, so somehow I just noticed that three PCs have had a parent die in a car accident. I find this morbidly amusing.

For some reason I can't open giantitp. Can you post it here?

Okay, we have a car accident fetish. This means there's something supernatural about it as well, no?

Is there an Enemy for this chronicle?

Off on a wild cosmological tangent here, but are you guys familiar with Polaris?

Never heard of him.

Nope.

The forum server's been having unspecified problems so if you wait a bit the link should work, but here's the repost anyways:

Truly Mundane (Persistent)

The Princess' connection to the Light is bound more strongly to her transformation than the norm. While in mundane form she may not spend Wisps for any reason, does not add her Inner Light as Supernatural Tolerance, and has no Practical Charms.

Causes: A Princess' Blossoming.

Resolution: The Princess reshapes her phylactery to weaken its grip on her powers; in addition to the normal methods, swearing allegiance to the Court of Mirrors will accomplish this automatically as a side-effect of the Heirs' Practical Magic. If this Condition is resolved, the Princess should immediately choose her Practical Charms.

Beat: The Princess is subject to a detrimental supernatural effect while in mundane form, or suffers a notable difficulty as a result of this Condition.


Maybe, maybe not, I vote we leave it for you to decide. ;)


Um, the Darkness, followed closely by Tears and/or Storms? I figure deciding who or what the specific threats will be in the chronicle is kind of your job, give or take the antagonist hooks in some of our backstories.


If you mean the north star then obviously yes, otherwise I have no idea.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:50, Mon 29 Aug 2016.

I was refering to the polaris rpg by ben lehman. Not that new french thing.

https://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/13/13708.phtml

Hm, interesting, why do you bring it up though?

I think that's pretty common with characters who have lost a parent. Now that you bring it up, though, I'll change the circumstances under which Amy passed away. I find the coincidence kind of...weird.

By the way, the anime Gun x Sword actually involves something similar as a plot point.

Actually, i already have half a page of scribbles based on car crashes. So, don't. :)

As for polaris, well, it's a spoiler. And none of you familiar with it means more fun for me!

[reading about Polaris intensifies]

:P

Fair enough. I'll avoid saying much more about that anime, though.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:47, Mon 29 Aug 2016.

There is not a single person registered in this game that doesn't have some tragedy befalling their mother.

Depends if jaybird/Miranda counts yet or not until if or when he's gotten his butt over here. In either case I sadly think the best idea is to not wait much longer on him.

Speaking of things we've been waiting on, has a location or starting time of year been decided on yet?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:22, Mon 29 Aug 2016.

So, which characters are fans of Gun Princess Mauser?

Definitely Zelda.

Speaking of which, I forget if I said this in one of the previous threads but Heartcatch Precure! is SO good.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:28, Mon 29 Aug 2016.

...Also also I notice your Myth-weavers sheet isn't updated yet, i.e.- it still has only five Charms on it and whatnot. And you obviously don't have any use for the Weaponry dots any more.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:30, Mon 29 Aug 2016.

I thought we'd decided on the game being set in San Francisco. As for the time, what about the beginning of the school year? Or even the end. How much of an issue we want real life to be?

And weirdly enough, my inspiration for Princess is Final Fantasy Tactics.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:52, Mon 29 Aug 2016.

Maybe? We never definitively said "Yes, it's going to be San Francisco."


I say either at the beginning or some time during. Beginning or close to the beginning could certainly be interesting on my end, since it will mean that Zelda doesn't really know anyone at school yet.*

* Except Shira, whom we previously agreed that Zelda was introduced to in the Dreamlands near the end of the previous school year, and maybe the cheer squad if we want to say that tryouts and the first few practices were at least a little in advance of classes starting (that's a thing that some schools do, right?). Oh, and I guess Shira's two friends since Zelda moved to SF early-to-mid summer and therefore would have had time to meet Shira in person and get introduced to the twins.


Personally I vote "moderately," especially since that means more chances to make use of social skills.

We'll keep character sheets on this site. Everyone should have an editable one in their character details. If it's not, yell.

The game seems to be set somewhere near San Francisco. Perhaps we can pick one of the suburbs, tho I must confess I am thoroughly unfamiliar with  that area. Google Maps shows that Pleasanton has a name that conforms to our game tone, plus there's the nearby Mt. Diablo. All the stereotypes right there. Also ranked the 4th most desirable city to live in in the US.

Thoughts?

Hey don't forget to grab an avatar for your characters. I would like to see what the closest RPOL equivalent to how you see your characters' faces.

The character description page is just a blank text box, and no offense to the template that MReav made but I'd much rather use my current Myth-Weavers link.


Unfortunately I'm not sure if that really works for Nina,* and it almost certainly doesn't for Miranda if jaybird de-AWOLs.

* In that I'm assuming a vagrant would much rather be in the big city proper than a wealthy suburb an hour and twenty minutes' bus ride away.


I actually spent a while looking the other day and didn't find one I liked.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:41, Tue 30 Aug 2016.

The character sheet is in Character Details in the top left corner.

Still, if you prefer the Myth Weavers' website, that's your call.

...Nope, don't see anything of the sort there, just the big text box.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:44, Tue 30 Aug 2016.

the big text box is the char sheet. It can has formatting.

That's what I thought, in which case I'll stick with the sheet that's already formatted all nice and stuff (i.e.- the MW one).

Speaking of which, MReav, I take it you're still picking Charms? As for your skills, personally I'd switch that transformed Athletics dot with one of the mundane Brawl dots for prerequisite purposes, though really it's your Dexterity that's keeping you out of most of the good Styles.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:00, Tue 30 Aug 2016.

I'm fine with things the way they are. I have my charms picked.

just put a link to the mw sheet in the space reserved for your char sheet then. If you have free time, it'd be nice to put the numerical stuff here so I don't have to check another site each time I think of something.

Cool, that just leaves Rd's sheet then.


Eh, I guess I can do that, it's going at the bottom though.

EDIT: ...Or the character sheets you apparently created for us at some point just started showing up for me. I will use both since I'm guessing the one here is currently private to you.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:59, Tue 30 Aug 2016.

Update: Having two character sheets seemed like it would be really tedious so I replaced the one on this site with the MW link and a "Quick Stats" section containing pretty much all of her dot values except merits.

Comments on other characters:

Shira: I don't see it marked or recorded anywhere which Charm is your Practical. You also missed a few spots when updating your stats, specifically your Charm families under "Powers," your Defense, your Kensai damage, and your armor (Barrier Jacket is 1/1 now).

Nina: If I'm reading her backstory right then Nina's only been homeless and an orphan for a year at most, yes? If so then PT: Vagrant makes less sense to me than something representing her Hunter training, like Occultist or a custom "Monster Hunter (Firearms, Occult)" profession. You might have thought of that already and picked Vagrant anyway though, I obviously don't know. Also Small-Framed says it means you're under five feet tall, but that's kind of whatever.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:50, Tue 30 Aug 2016.

I'll be honest, I am mostly on this website instead of Myth Weavers, though your input helped me to correct a few mistakes. Thanks.

I didn't think of that, I admit. I'll ask Phlegyas about the Monster Hunter PT.

As for Small-Framed, I imagined Nina as a shorty, like Murphy from the Dresden Files. Now, she might still be too tall for the merit, so I'll think on it.

I like "monster hunter" more than "vagrant", to be honest. I'll allow whatever option floats your boat.

Small-framed is child-size, no?

All right then, here's what I've got:

I've put Three Dots into PT: Monster Hunter. It's Asset Skills are Firearms & Occult, and I've taken Stealth as my third Asset skill due to the Third Dot of Professional Training. Too Much?

Maybe, the Merits text just says 'Under-Five Feet'.

Also, I just did some research, apparently the average height for a 15-year old is 5 ft. 2 Inches, which Nina would be somewhat below. Not sure what to make of this data, but I'm starting to think Nina doesn't qualify for the merit.

Huh, you don't say.

*acquires data*

...Looks like I was working off a skewed average* and accidentally put Zelda right at the bottom of "freakishly tall" territory. I'll drop her to 5'7", she's supposed to be on the taller side but not too much so.

* I'm a hair below 5'8" myself which is pretty much the worst height for visually estimating how tall other people are, so a lot of women look "about my height" to me who are probably actually a bit shorter. It also probably hasn't helped that my own younger sister has almost always been taller than me and still is by a quarter-inch.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:36, Wed 31 Aug 2016.

I've made Shira 5'10" just because I imagine her as being rather huge.

The US average for 15 year old girls (1970s to 1990s) is 63 inches, and weight about 115 lbs, I believe. "short" would be about 58 inches high (shorter than 95% of the population) if we go by this.

https://www.cdc.gov/growthchar...linical/cj41c072.pdf

The PT is fine. After all, you are going to need those dots. :D

That's good to hear, IIRC you used to have her as like 5'1" and 160 lb which I'm pretty sure meant she was a D&D dwarf with gigantism. :P

I'm pretty sure she was never that short.

Give me another day or so. I have to study for an upcoming test.

Okay. We still need to discuss where you'll start. So far we narrowed it down to the SF area.

Any wishes in particular?

Mreav, do you have something more written up on Ember?

Zelda's Lone Stars of Light stay in Texas, right? What's her opinion of werewolves?

Is there a sheet for Chelsie Washburn? I like her already.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:19, Thu 01 Sept 2016.

Nerd-o-Rama from the second to last game would likely have more. I'll see if I can get him to send any information. In the meantime, I'll PM a summary of the character as I see her.

Okay, it's been a while but I definitely remember her being a lot shorter than she is now and weighing enough that she'd have to either be obese or have muscles on her muscles. The latter of which I suppose you might have been going for, who knows.


As I said before, RocknRoll might have other ideas but as far as I can think of Nina has every reason to be in San Francisco proper, which means so should the rest of us. That also works better with Zelda keeping extensive volunteer hours, I think (more charities to work at in the main city than in at least most of the outlying suburbs, after all).

Oh, and if it's fine with you I'd like to nominate Theodor S. Geisel High, home of the Wockets as the name of the school the three high school PCs are at. Yes, that's Dr. Seuss, I found a list of poets from San Francisco and when I got to him I knew I just had to suggest it. ;)


Yes, though it'd be perfectly possible to meet up with them in the Dreamlands if you're ever looking to trigger the Beat criterion of Connected (i.e.- have them ask her for a favor).


Fairly positive overall, most or all of the ones she's met were Lone Star-affiliated and therefore meant well even if their methods could be a bit brutal sometimes (though not usually too brutal for fear of creating Taint). She vaguely knows that Death Rage is a thing that can happen but has been fortunate enough to never witness one personally. Lastly, I imagine she probably doesn't know much of anything about the difference between Forsaken and Pure werewolves except for having been told that the Pure are bad news.

In reply to Zelda (msg # 82):

Shira used to be 5'6 and like 160 lbs. And she was a bit of both.

I know the city quite well. If anyone wants to start in a particular type of neighborhood, I could probably put a name to it.

A reasonably average neighborhood with a view (bay, ocean, hill/mountain or forest)would be perfect.

The above can take priority if any of it is mutually exclusive with this, but if it's a mixed-income neighborhood then that would help explain how a recently-promoted senior engineer's kids are at the same school as a girl currently living with her retired grandmother. Or maybe I'm overthinking that, at the very least I'm probably the only one who actually cares enough to not just hand-wave it (though hand-waving it is fine too if we have to).

yes, well, that was my thinking as well after you didn't want to put your character in pleasantville ;)

Also. Too much free time =

Cannot and will not unsee. :P

Kill la Kill is on my to-watch list :D

The Sunset district fits both. It's a short trip away from the Golden Gate Park and Ocean Beach. It's mostly a quiet residential area, but that changes the closer you get to the highway. There's a mall and a smaller park that sees a lot of special events, like concerts. It's also home to a bunch of high schools. By the way, students are usually placed at a school based on stuff like proximity to their home, or whether a sibling is enrolled.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:39, Fri 02 Sept 2016.

In other news I finally found a portrait I actually like, albeit more for the expression than the resemblance (though it doesn't look entirely unlike her transformed state).
This message was last edited by the player at 02:48, Fri 02 Sept 2016.

This message was deleted by the player at 05:24, Fri 02 Sept 2016.

Speaking of pictures, I'm on the fence about whether this is a parody or accurate depiction of the Queen (or indeed, any Noble) of Mirrors.


This message was last edited by the player at 06:06, Fri 02 Sept 2016.

Could be. Gawds, I shouldn't have started watching Kill la Kill :P Now my perceptions are all skewed, and I'll have to watch some old Sailor Moon to get my brain bleached.

Unless, of course, y'all want that kind of game...

In reply to Zelda (msg # 91):

Nice. We just need Nina and our set is complete. At least until Jaybird rematerializes.

The previous ST statted the NPC's himself, so I don't have a character sheet for her. I can make one if you want, just tell me how much experience she has.

It isn't what I expected, but I like where you're going with this.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:48, Fri 02 Sept 2016.

I haven't seen Kill la Kill so I don't know what the GM would be planning.

I do know I imagine Shira as relatively chaste and wearing relatively practical clothing, though if she were forced into fetish gear, she'd make the teenage pudgy fanboys happy (Shira would fall under the Stout Strength trope).

I'd as soon have Regalia that isn't sapient, but what did you have in mind? :p

I'm pretty sure half the point of the Court is that you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference. :P

At the very least I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a Specchio Charm just to keep that hat on. It looks awfully...

*puts on sunglasses*

...unbalanced.

[YEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHH!!!]


For better or worse I'm pretty sure the way transformation works in this game (i.e.- it's called your "perfected self" for a reason) precludes the possibility of any Noble being embarrassed by their own costume. Not that I'm not sure there's someone running around somewhere in an outfit that would make Senketsu proud, but if so it's because they think that's how they should look as a magical girl. Ten bucks says they're a Mirror. :P

Unless you just mean the sheer amount of general >implying and/or the TTGL-eqsue over-the-top craziness, in which case I'm pretty sure we'd have picked a different magical girl game to play if that was what we'd had in mind.

(By the way, if you think Senketsu and Junketsu are bad then just wait until Gamagoori transforms. :P )


Nina has a portrait, it's Shirley who still doesn't. Or an updated character sheet for that matter.


Or we could PM Nerd-o-rama back on GiantITP and see if he'll send Phlegyas/Moriteru the sheets in question. They'll need updating for the Charm changes and such though.


I'm assuming some combination of fanservice, balls-to-the-wall insanity, and a fascist parody of the Japanese school system.

Hmm. I haven't seen actual fanservice i(in the strict sense of the term) in kill la kill. For what fanservice is, look at the later chapters of  history's strongest disciple kenichi, where skimpiness/nakedness serves no story-related function.

But yeah, world of dorkness has a quite different tone. However, embarassment and young ladies are  inextricably linked...  oh well, you are the masters of your outfits, so you call it.

On a more serious tone, some over-the-top situations are unavoidable in the magical girl genre.

An update on my time plan shows the game hould be taking off on the 11th. I nave completed most of my notes. You only have fo pick a first scene together. I also plan to have a dreamlands thread where you can all post in parallel. Thoughts?

Finally got my character sheet done. Have a look at it, if you'd like.

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=924967

This isn't extremely important, but I thought I'd ask. Would it be cheating to have a Phylactery that takes the form of a tattoo?

By the way, there is actually an anime with gun-themed names and a princess as the main character. Scrapped Princess. Though, Mauser would work better as a Queen analogue in this case.

I've gone through several iterations of Shira's phylactery. I think I am going to settle on a slightly damaged watch that was recovered from the fire. I like the watch due to how I view Shira as a pragmatic girl and thus would want to have something innocuous but still useful, and the damaged-yet-functional item is fairly symbolic for the character.

Hmm. I love romance as vice, heh.

As for tattoo phylactery, there will be some other drawback to having that. I'll let you have it, but you'll be sorry at one point of thestory.

Scrapped princess? Never heard of that. To the googlemobile! (It cant be sillier than Grenadier...)

Now I'm imagining Shirley having the "Embarrassing Phylactery" drawback.

Unfortunately, what I was thinking of would be highly inappropriate for a 15-year-old girl.

Hey Nina, I remember discussing having my character and Bryan having a bit of a history (specifically, I beat the crap out of him when he tried to kidnap one of my friends). Do we still want to do that?

...so I spoke too soon :P

I'm okay with insanity and fanservice in reasonable amounts, but I'd as soon leave out the fascism. ^_^;



Good to know. By the way, her Phylactery is on the back of her left hand. Like her beam shooting Arthurian sword, it's intended to be a reference to Fate series. One of the magical sigils known as a Command Seal.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:35, Sun 04 Sept 2016.

Nonsense? That's how we roll! :D Anyways, I finished watching Kill la Kill, and can only recommend it. I'm giving it 9,5 toes out of 10 on my scale.

Any luck locating the last player? If not, we can start planning.

Now that we narrowed it down to San Francis' city (punny in several ways, I know), and have a school name, some random tidbits for the surrounding (store names, streets, local legends, the like - a sentence or two at most) would be very welcome! We'll start building the local map with that and fill it in as play progresses.

I was thinking, instead of William getting a posse, maybe it could be his demented bastard half-brother, who also happens to be Darkened. That way, the cavalry can show up wielding guns and swords and intimidate the goon squad into backing down.

everything is still open. Making him Darkened could be a little bit problematic, if we want to start slow.

However, the latter is not a requirement, and we can start with fireworks if you like! :D

In my attempted writeup of SF, I had Emperor Norton as a Prince of Mirrors. : )

Prince Schwarzenegger of mirrors. Nobody outshines him. And if you do... he'll be back.

Not quite how it went. What your remembering was what you called 'The Vampire LARP Incident', where one of Shira's friends (Marie-Helen, if I recall correctly) was almost kidnapped at a convention by a True-Fae, and was thankfully saved by a then mortal Shira punching him in the face.

We had talked about Bryan being connected to the guy, most likely as one of the True-Fae's patsies. That said, it could easily have been Bryan getting his face beaten in, my only issue is that I intended him to be more of an ally, and kidnapping seems a bit too villainous (Although we could easily say he was planning to feed on her - the difference is academic when it seems like your best friend is being lured off by a much larger man to The Corner Where No One Can Hear You Scream^TM).

Also, since we're on the subject, I had another connection as well. It was agreed that at some point Nina had spent some time with the Lone Stars of Light - Zelda's Camaraderie back in Texas. The idea was never finalized due to a small disagreement - from what I can tell, Zelda's player wanted us as casual associates, while I liked us having done a case together on the basis that the larger the connection, the better.

Right, I misremembered. He wasn't the kidnapper, he was a patsy working with the kidnappers, though I doubt Shira would be able to punch the face of a True Fae in, more likely one of their agents.

Incoming replies to LOTS of stuff:


Does it need to be with all of us together already? There's also the possibility that some of us are in separate places minding our own business (particularly Nina depending on if we were going to say she's just recently rolled into town) before getting pulled together by an opening plot hook of some sort.

I'm up for whatever though.


Sounds like a good idea especially given dream-time weirdness, though I assume if any "main story" stuff ends up going on in the Dreamlands it will be in the main IC thread?


Huh, was not expecting the Levinbolt upgrades. I figured you'd end up spending the extra dots on more Bless Charms or maybe Great Balm or something (though looking now Zelda's actually the most qualified to use Balm with Shira as a close second; maybe we can pool dots for a Bequest at some point?).


I mean it's already been okayed, but personally if it were up to me that would cost a merit given the obvious benefits over the "small simple object" it normally has to be (i.e.- can't be lost or stolen, can't be destroyed outside of dramatically failing a transformation roll).


"Highly inappropriate for a 15-year-old girl" is specifically one of the ways in which a phylactery might be Embarrassing, so...


Either you spoke way too soon the and posted this after episode two, or you somehow didn't notice the exaggeratedly compromised position Ryuko was in after getting slammed into the wall by the tennis captain.


Hm, wondering if that should count as an Embarrassing Phylactery given, you know, 15-year-old with a hard-to-hide tattoo. Not to mention what her own family's reaction might have been when she first came home with it.


Nope, matter of fact my PM from a week and a half ago is still unread.


Can't think of anything right now, will try to get back to you on that.


That seems a little overboard to me. Actually make that a lot overboard.


While that's certainly an amusing thought, Emperor Norton was this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton


Hm, I don't remember what you're talking about but I'm fine with Zelda and Nina having ran a mission or two together.


One word: Huntsmen.

Guys, we have a random encounter. Someone noticed this game despite there being no advert for it and wants to join. The concept is mender/hearts, with no unusual stuff in the pitch.

What do you say?

I'm not against the idea, if everyone else thinks it's okay. Actually, I was about to ask if we should start looking for a fifth player.


Well, there are sword beams, and there are sword energy blasts. I figured it'd be cool for Shirley to bust out the latter at a dramatic moment. That said, she is intended to play a support role. I can upgrade her Bless Charms for now.


Suppose it functioned like a normal Phylactery. Granted, a magic sigil sticker would be kind of silly...
This message was last edited by the player at 09:40, Thu 08 Sept 2016.

In reply to Phlegyas (msg # 116):

Sure. If our missing player shows up, she can be our "Sixth Ranger" archetype.

No, I meant "have the mods ban this game for underage indecency" type of embarrassing.

I was thinking, could the tattoo be like a temporary tattoo that she can attach and remove? Like, she slaps the paper on her hand and then transforms, and transforms back by having the tattoo removed.

Technically, that would make the phylactery the tattoo paper.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:34, Thu 08 Sept 2016.

Sure thing.

So, to get the matter of "Who already knows who" finalized, have Shira and Shirley identified each other as Nobles yet? If they both Blossomed before summer break then the answer should probably be yes because Practical Reflected Light.

...Actually, come to think of it Practical Reflected Light (and, to an only slightly lesser extent, Inari's Unseen Sense) poses a bit of a problem if none of us are supposed to know yet that Tabitha Reese is a Noble. I guess we can say that she somehow hasn't come within 30 feet of Shira yet and just not think about the extremely low odds of that. Or Tabitha can have a homebrewed Charm or Bequest or something that keeps her from pinging Reflected Light or Unseen Sense while in mundane form.


Really, an actual Mender? Between the three P:TH recruitment threads I've seen on GiantITP there were maybe two Menders submitted.

Anyways, sure, why not let them in. The fact that we'll (hopefully) have heals now is just a bonus. ;)


You don't have to, I was just observing.

I did also notice that you seemingly haven't picked your Practical Charm, though.


I just reread the adult content policy and I'm 99% sure we'd be fine as long as no one describes the item in question being used for anything other than transforming. That said I'm guessing you weren't seriously considering having it either way so whatever.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:32, Thu 08 Sept 2016.

In other news, I just PMed Nerd-o-rama and OracleofSilence to see if they can PM those NPCs to Phleg's GiantITP account.

Guys, welcome the new guy. No  biting for now, please.

So I have thought about it on the crapper, and perhaps just throwing you all into danger in the first post is just what we need to get things rolling downhill. Perhaps a busride going extremely wrong? I used that a number of times, and it's always fun.

As for custom merits like ,"arcane" and others masking your supernatural aura, those are quite rare. Iirc there's a "too mundane"merit/flaw that does this... if we make it a charm, it's probably specchio, instantly making it very fun to use! Thoughts?

As I said before, I'm fine with whatever.


You're thinking of the Condition that Nina has and that I'm the one who wrote. And which definitely won't stop you from registering as a supernatural being; you still are one even if your powers are reduced.

As for a Charm that masks your supernatural nature (which IMO it being an upgrade for Twenty Faces would make the most sense), the obvious problem for this purpose is that to use it in mundane form you'd have to either make it Practical or have a Bequest of it. The latter is certainly a possibility for a Raven though, what with Alhambra having a literal vault full of Bequests to loan out.

Of course we also don't know yet if Rd has some other idea entirely. Like Tabitha admitting she's a Princess but lying about her Court and refusing requests to team up, for example.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:21, Thu 08 Sept 2016.

Update on the above: Ember Ash has a sheet and Chelsie Washburn has some rough stats both of which you should hopefully be receiving soon over on GiantITP. Obviously feel free to modify them as you see fit or even replace them wholesale, it's not like we know much about them ourselves in the first place and even if we did this is a new continuity anyways.

(Andrew Grant and Tabitha Reese apparently never got to the point of having stats written so you're on your own there.)

I can write up sheets for them. I was planning on adding just a little material to Shirley's NPCs for the sake of characterization, anyway. I'll give my thoughts about Tabitha's circumstances later.

And I'm fine with the bus ride, but given that we aren't equipped to stop a large vehicle in motion (in a worst case scenario), how about a trip to the mall gone wrong? Or some other public place?

Hello!  I am the aforementioned new player.  I'm glad to be joining!  I've wanted to play Princess for a while, but I never thought I'd get a chance, so I'm super excited!  I'm not the most knowledgeable about the template, so forgive me if i make newbish mistakes!

Nice meeting you. What can you tell us about your character?

And we were talking earlier about Pokemon Go. Perhaps an actual random encounter could be our meet the team incident.

I'm still constructing, so some stuff will probably change.  Zoe was a troubled youth who overcame drug issues with the help of an older childhood friend.  That friend went into the military and was killed in action.  The day Zoe learned about her friend's death was the day she Blossomed.  I'm currently thinking Zoe is a Onceborn, and maybe her friend was supposed to blossom, which got passed to me?

Personality wise, Zoe is someone who is supremely grateful for being saved, and is now trying to pay it forward in the memory of her friend.  She's trying to build a community that will help each other on the streets among the unfortunates that she spent time with.  She's not as courteous as you would expect a Heart to be, but she shows her own brand of respect.  My inspirations are Phoebe from friends and Angel from Rent.

Welcome to the game. :)

I'll admit, I wasn't thinking about Tabitha's post when I gave Shirley Reflected Light. I was going to leave the details up to our ST, here. But I like the idea of a Charm to disguise her supernatural nature. It sounds like something the Court of Tears would have used back when it was Cups.

As an aside, I just remembered that Disgaea 2 features rose themed firearms. But the Rose Thorn is a minigun. ^_^;

What about Tabitha having a high level of Veiling? It's specifically there to help hide the Princess, and we don't need to rely on homebrew.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:47, Fri 09 Sept 2016.

Hmm. Would it hide her status as a supernatural?

While I'm asking...hey Plegyas, how do you want me to handle Andrew and Tabitha, if at all? I've got the new edition of Mage, and I can certainly build a Seeker of Tears. But would you like me to do so as if they were both newly created PCs?

Veiling:
"Some Hopefuls’ perfected selves differ so much from their mundane selves that they are excessively difficult to identify, even beyond the norm. Your character is one such; whenever an observer tries to connect her two identities, his dice pool takes a penalty equal to her dots in the Merit. Supernatural attempts to discover her status as a Princess while she is not transformed take the same penalty, as do attempts by Dark creatures to locate her."

Hmm... it doesn't specifically say that, so it's up to the GM. Still, I think it could work without going too much into homebrew territory.

Sounds good. Go for it. We can modify them later if needed. I don't plan on Mage things coming into play much, or at all. ii did say something about twisting other supernaturals to keep you guessing, no?

Also, shira.has.the correct.

I still need some locations from each of you, and a short sentence about each.

Hello! Don't worry, this is my first time as well.
Interesting idea, although the Onceborn Merit doesn't really fit. Onceborn means that you're character was such a good and idealistic person that they spontaneously created a new blossoming. Zoe hasn't created a new blossoming, she's just using someone else's.
Thanks for letting me know, I think I have an idea.

Bubby Goldie's Apartment:

A stereotypically Jewish grandmother's apartment.

Anne and Marie-Helene's family condo:

A large, upscale condo belonging to Shira's friends.

Does anyone know of any really crappy neighbourhoods, possibly ones that getting burned down wouldn't be too surprising? It doesn't have to be San Francisco specifically.

It is actually in San Francisco, but parts of the area around Market Street can be pretty dangerous after dark. Same for what's known as the Tenderloin District, which is nearby.

As for locations in general, I remember reading that Barbary Coast (currently the Financial District, natch) was a hive of scum and villainy to shame any fictional ones back in the early 20th century. Suppose something from those days has survived?
This message was last edited by the player at 22:37, Fri 09 Sept 2016.

Well, if we expand to include Oakland, I'm pretty sure that whole area is considered dangerous.



That's a good point.  I was kinda going for the "she doesn't really know what she's doing" part of being a Onceborn.  Is there another way to limit past life experience?  Or, even better, make it so her mundane self doesn't know some of what her transformed self does?  Maybe Unfinished Business?



Quik-e-Drug:  The alley behind a certain 7-11 in the South Bay district is where everyone's friend sets up shop.  At the Quik-e-Drug, the first two hits are always free.

Alright, Shira's from Oakland.

Anyone got an idea for a neighbourhood? Or should I make one up since we're in an alternate universe with vampires and wizards and magical girls?

invent one. I wont be held back by reality either.

Columbus District, Oakland:
This neighbourhood's cheap cost was its only redeeming feature. Was a Tears stronghold before the Stormites burned it down.

How about we make a separate thread for the locations?

That does sound much more workable.


Welcome! And don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions about anything. Actually I think for most of us this is more or less our first time playing this, though we've been trying at it for long enough that I at least know the system pretty much front to back at this point.


...Yup, that'll do nicely. It won't stop Shira from sensing that there's an extra Noble somewhere in the school but it'll penalize the Wits+Occult roll to know that it's Tabitha. Which is arguably better than not sensing her at all because mysteries are fun.

*sudden realization*

Oh snap, the reverse situation is going to be even more fun times: if Tabitha's job is to scout out other Nobles then she's almost certainly walking around with the same Charm herself and none of us have Veiling.


First off if Unfinished Business is in the merits section then you're reading the wrong version of the game. We're playing Vocation, not Dream.

Anyways, as for the idea of Zoe having somehow Blossomed in place of someone else... If anything the way you describe it I think that instead of having had a past life herself Zoe should have her friend's past memories. How to handle that's up to you, we can import and modify Unifinished Business, or come up with a Persistent Condition encompassing the assorted weirdness, or something else entirely, or just wing it. Heck, what if it weren't just the memories? Maybe Zoe's perfected self looks how the friend would have looked transformed, and/or Dreamlanders who knew the friend's past incarnation recognize Zoe as her. The sky's the limit on where one could go with this, though what's for sure is that any Diamonds who hear about it are going to want to poke her with a stick. :P


This sounds like a good plan.

Hey Zoe, your Charm count should be 9. We're using Vocation.

I totally was looking at the wrong version.  Fixed now.



I like the idea of my transformed self looking like someone entirely different.  Would a couple levels of veiling be good for that?  As for the condition idea, I'd probably suffer some sort of disorientation when accessing past life memories.  I'll have to cook something up.

Maybe the friend's personality can take over at random or under certain circumstances?

It would, but everyone's transformed self looks completely different from their mortal selves. Veiling makes it even harder to tell that the two are the same person.

About places.

A few pages back, we settled on using Sunset. I didn't notice Shira suddenly walking off to Oakland - we can't have that. She can be originally from there (since it fits the rough background, etc.), but right now I'd like you all staying somewhere in Sunset.

A places thread should be visible about now. I'll keep an indexed list of locations there for your and mine convenience. If you want stuff added, just post in that thread.

There will be a similar NPC thread soon.

The Dreamtime thread should be open soon as well.

If everyone is okay with starting today, I'll use a heavy ham hand to knead your characters together for the initial scene.

Sorry, I meant it to be a place in Shira's backstory. I'll give a slight adjustment to its description, but it's a place of significance to her. Besides, I thought I said that Shira lived with her grandmother.

yup, with Goldie :) we have that in the places. Just making sure we're orineted in time and space.

Does anyone have the name of a burn treatment center that operates on the cheap in the general area?

Kaiser Permanente in South San Francisco (South San Francisco Medical Center) is the one my Google-Fu found. about 9-10 miles from Sunset.

Today's my D&D day, actually.

In the meantime, here is Tabitha's character sheet. You're free to edit it as you will. I actually put this together in kind of a hurry.

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=940644
This message was last edited by the player at 02:44, Wed 14 Sept 2016.

no need to hurry. Due to silly computer trouble, I didn't manage to put everything together the way I like to. current plan is to start on wednesday. You're free to interact in the Dreamlands thread tho. I'd appreciate posts in the characters and places threads too.

Here's Zoe's updated sheet: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=937925

For Kensai, is it possible that I can pull improvised weapons out of my medic bag?  I'm going for a cross between a street fighter with improvised weapons and an armored paladin with a shield.

Just so you know, you start with 2 more Wisps, due to your Circle Merit.
This message was last updated by the player at 06:15, Tue 13 Sept 2016.

Your Circle is stated to be "Street". A Circle is a set of close friends. Unless "Street" is someone's nickname, I think you would be better off making that a Mandate.

Will have some stuff in the location and NPC threads later today.


Not complaining or criticizing, but is there any particular reason why the Mender has the most combat Charms? Also, in Vocation you don't get any free transformed skill dots, but you can trade mundane dots for transformed dots at a 1:2 rate. Oh, and Fighting Finesse is two dots.

Lastly, for each Belief question you need to come up with a specific sample breaking point related to your answer.


I don't see why not, you'll need a ruling/houserule from Phlegyas for it to work with the Improvised Weaponry style though.

("Princess powers activate! Form of... a wine bottle!")

Speaking of character sheets, I just decided to start off Connected to San Francisco Charities and the Geisel High Cheer Squad in addition to the Lone Stars, if that's okay. Sure it's basically a free bonus, but it does have a drawback built into the Beat condition (namely that they might periodically want favors from Zelda).

EDIT: Speaking of cheerleading, our previous two GMs said that that would be Dexterity+Expression. Do you agree or is there some other dice pool you think is more appropriate (like Presence+Athletics maybe)?
This message was last edited by the player at 15:17, Tue 13 Sept 2016.

Ah, thanks!  I took circle at an early stage of development, before I knew how few friends she currently has.  I'll replace that with mandate.

How did I forget Finesse was two?  ARG.

The beliefs are still in progress, as is the description and history.  Thanks for the tip off about the skills too, darn different editions changing things!

Yeah, Dream and Vocation have been getting more different from each other in more ways as time goes on.

On an unrelated note, I like how three out of five PCs have Manipulation 1 and the other two have 2. Nemeses for everyone! Though mainly Shira and Nina because they're the ones without enough Subterfuge to make the roll a chance die.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:41, Tue 13 Sept 2016.

medic bag has tape scissors, scalpel, elastic bandages, finger splints, alcohol, and that's just off the top of my head. So yeah, definitely admissible as source of improvised weaponry, if you work on it. Remember, things can change size and combina and have strange porperties when magic-touched, no?

as for cheerleading, what I'll let you get away with depends on your imagination. Wits+streetwise might work for composing really bad rhyming gangsta rap cheer stuff, haha. But yeah, Dex+athletics would be the norm for me.

In that case I'll move her "Cheerleading" specialty from Expression to Athletics right now.

...Hm, now that I'm going over my sheet again I can't seem to remember what that dot of Crafts is supposed to be for. :/

EDIT: Just remembered, it's for/from random volunteering-related stuff like building houses and making small art pieces for retirees.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:14, Tue 13 Sept 2016.

Hey Phlegyas, have you decided about how many Radiant there are in the city and how (if at all) they're organized, or did you want us to do that?

Here is Andrew's character sheet. Again, edit it if you need to. I recall you had different ideas about the nature of the other supernaturals. And I gotta say, despite my describing him as a delinquent, Andrew was actually inspired by Schmendrick from The Last Unicorn.

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=943658

I know Legal Minor is from Princess, but it kind of applies to his situation.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:15, Wed 14 Sept 2016.

Are you perchance baiting the red bull? If so, you are successful.

First Post since the game has officially started!:)
For the Record, Zoe has the same dicepool as Nina for Manipulation+Subterfuge (3 Dice), and Zoe has the Legal Minor condition, meaning she needs the dice more than I do.

Also, Phlegyas, Shira has Reflected Light as her Practical Charm. Would she have noticed something up with the driver earlier?

And finally, I took one last look at my character sheet before things got too far along:

Firstly, since the team is really low on dots in Computer, I was thinking of switching a dot of occult over to Computer.

And Secondly, and more importantly, I'm having second thoughts about my Character's Virtue and Vice. 'Patient' is typically a good Virtue for a Mental-Type (Which was what I was thinking at first), but I'm thinking 'Just' would fit Nina better. Meanwhile, 'Trust Issues' feels like a tiny part of Nina's problems, and would be better described by a 'Paranoia' Vice.

The driver didn't seem abnormal enough before the bang.

As for changing the char sheet, go for it.

Could any of us have been Transformed before getting on the bus? I had this idea (based on an earlier suggestion) that Shirley would switch to Drachenstern at the best opportunity, but keep her full Regalia stored away for situations like this.

Am I getting any sort of splitting migraine due to Taint Awareness?

wing it :) if you can explain going transformed through a thunderstorm, by all means.

Taint Awareness isn't signalling anything more than a sputter.

Well, if I'm reading Tomoyo's Touch right, she can wear normal clothes and switch to her Regalia pretty easily.

eh, posted just as Drachensten's post went up. I'll edit.

Guys, please put what pool (dex+brawl? stamina+carousing? okay, mebbe not the latter) you are rolling in the dice roller so I don't get confoozled.

Hey Phlegyas, what's the current in-game date, what day of the week is it, and about what time is it? I was thinking that if it were mid to late evening on a weekend then Shira, Zelda, and Shirley could be riding back together from a mall or something, which would neatly explain both why the three of them are all on the same bus and why they're even out in this sort of weather in the first place.

Anyways, I'll have an IC post up in a few hours. Or right now minus the dice rolls, had time for that already.

Also, I changed the names of two NPCs the other day, specifically the Austinite werewolf because the original name just sounded dumb to me, and Zelda's mom because holy crap how do MReav and I keep naming our characters' parents the same things. One parent is fine but both is just ridiculous.

Lastly, do we need to roll Sensitivity for someone having just been stabbed or do we get a pass for it happening during the opening "cutscene?" And for that matter what about Initiative, should we be rolling that yet?


To clarify, I was referring to the rules for being tracked by creates of Darkness, under "The Need for Discretion."


He's already said no, but I'll note that in general for creatures of Darkness it depends on what kind. Specifically, you need the relevant upgrade to sense Darkened.


Personally I'm more concerned about your stealth and disguise pools, they both seem a bit on the low side considering you obviously care enough about them to have relevant Charms.

Also, you should have two more specialties thanks to the third dot of Professional Training (Best. Merit. Ever.).

Speaking of messing with character sheets, I'm suddenly really indecisive about whether Zelda should have Persuasion 2 and Socialize 1 or the other way around. Maybe something in the new core book will help me decide, I've been meaning to get it some time soon instead of relying on Old Core + GMC forever.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:51, Thu 15 Sept 2016.

Try imagining situations in which Zelda would either skill, then put more dots in the one that feels more right for her (if that makes sense).

By the way, how do you make rolls again?

First you bring up the Dice Roller. Then you look up Game System /  Special Dice, set it to New World of Darkness. Adjust for any Rerolls. Then you put Reason For Roll.

I recommend using Record Each Die, so your dice rolls can be seen by all.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:30, Thu 15 Sept 2016.

Beat me to it. Also, a little box will show up above the roller to give you the detailed results.

Just made my transformation roll, how do I link to it in my post?

In reply to Zelda (msg # 180):

You generally just copy-paste.

Cool.

Yo, Phelgyas, can I roll to intimidate the driver right now or do I need to wait to spend my next instant action on that?
This message was last edited by the player at 17:09, Thu 15 Sept 2016.

In my experience, OOC posts, including dice rolls tend to be orange, and I like making them small. Spoilers tend to take up space here.

Well I'm used to spoilering any OOC stuff I put in my IC posts and I'd prefer to keep doing that, especially since orange is already the color Zelda talks in. The spoiler box itself doesn't add that much space anyways.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:58, Thu 15 Sept 2016.

Speaking of rolling, to save time I'm going to roll that hypothetical intimidation right now in case Phlegyas says I don't have to wait:


I'm positive there's a rule saying that if you threaten someone with a weapon you can add your weapon bonus to the Intimidation roll, but I can't find it so I'm rolling that die separately in case I'm wrong:


Of course if I am right about that then it's ambiguous how much weapon bonus I should be adding; Zelda's Levinbolt is Damage 1 but currently looks like a Damage 3 weapon which you'd think is what matters for threatening someone with it. If you think I should therefore treat it as Damage 3 for this purpose then here's those extra two dice:

Obviously the purpose of the roll is to get him to do what Zelda says (i.e.- drop the syringe and get on the ground); if an exceptional success (which only takes 3 successes thanks to Practical Magic) then she's also inflicting the Cowed Tilt on him.

Hey, I just found a picture that encapsulates what Shira might look like when she goes through her college phase.

In reply to Shira Rosenberg (msg # 186):

that's... scary as Hell.

OOC stuff usually gets put in the IC post at the beginning, or the end, in parentheses, marked with ooc, and in orange, like

(OOC: I roll real badly, arhg!
22:52, Yesterday: Zelda rolled 1 success using 2d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s with rolls of 8,3.  Threaten the Driver (+Perceived Weapon Bonus).

My inattention was to blah. Can someone gimme a bazooka so the bonus goes up?)

so there's no conflict with orange colored speech.

Threatening the driver might work. as a GM, I'm more of a "roll with the players' ideas" kind of guy. If you push in a particular direction, I'm more likely to say "yes, and..." than "no". In short, just roll and if necessary explain your intention in the ooc part of the post.

We need to pick a colour for Drachenstern's speech too. Don't skimp on transformation descriptions :)
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:15, Fri 16 Sept 2016.

Can I ask how many dice I had to remove? Or at least, how hard I hit him?

He just stumbled back from the hit. You are untransformed there, if I read correctly.

Your hit connected solidly - he had zero defense because of surprise. It doesn't seem that he's more than bruised, however.

Fair enough.

Hey, I'm going away for the weekend, but I don't want to put a halt to the scene.  I'm just going to make some generic rolls that might come up, and you can apply them as needed, or Phlegyas, you can do rolls for me if needed.  Zoe is going to follow the lead of the more experienced (or so she thinks) girls, attacking if they attack, running if they run, etc.  If the driver is defeated before I get back, she's also going to do a more in depth check of the passengers to see if anyone is hurt, and tend to those who are.

ETA:
Rolls:
Improvised Weaponry Attack x3:

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13:29, Today: Zoe rolled 1 success using 6d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((7,10(+2),6,7,2,7)).
13:30, Today: Zoe rolled 5 successes using 6d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((10(+10,10,4),10(+3),6,10(+5),7,7)).
13:31, Today: Zoe rolled 1 success using 6d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((2,1,1,7,2,10(+3))).

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Int + Medicine x3:

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13:36, Today: Zoe rolled 1 success using 5d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((7,5,9,3,3)).
13:37, Today: Zoe rolled 2 successes using 5d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((3,4,8,10(+6),4)).
13:37, Today: Zoe rolled 2 successes using 5d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((9,8,7,6,5)).

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Dex + Medicine x3:

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13:39, Today: Zoe rolled 2 successes using 7d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((9,9,2,7,5,2,2)).
13:39, Today: Zoe rolled 3 successes using 7d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((3,8,8,1,2,10(+4),5)).
13:39, Today: Zoe rolled 4 successes using 7d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((1,3,10(+2),9,9,3,9)).

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Dex + Athletics x3:

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13:40, Today: Zoe rolled 2 successes using 7d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((1,9,8,7,3,7,6)).
13:40, Today: Zoe rolled 1 success using 7d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((6,5,8,2,5,2,6)).
13:43, Today: Zoe rolled 4 successes using 7d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((6,5,9,8,9,9,5)).

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Wits + Composure x3:

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13:43, Today: Zoe rolled 1 success using 5d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((1,5,10(+7),5,2)).
13:44, Today: Zoe rolled 1 success using 5d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((4,9,5,5,4)).
13:44, Today: Zoe rolled 1 success using 5d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s ((6,6,6,5,8)).

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This message was last edited by the player at 17:44, Fri 16 Sept 2016.

Bah. Did the color (rose) I added to her speech not show up? Also, Shirley was already Transformed. I probably should have mentioned her rather flamboyant hair and eye color.

Since Zoe's stats are publicly visible we can just roll for her ourselves as necessary, though if Phlegyas wants to use the pre-rolls you just made anyways that's fine too.

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Speaking of rolling, Wits + Empathy + Fuoco to figure out (in broad terms) what the heck's going on with the driver, e.g.- does he seem like he's being controlled by something, or having some sort of Smeagol/Gollum-ish issue, or what:

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12:53, Today: Zelda rolled 6 successes using 9d10 with the World of Darkness nWoD system with a target of 8, rerolling 10s with rolls of 9,8,2,10(+9),3,8,6,6,9.  Wits + Empathy (+ Fuoco).

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...HECK YEAH, exceptional success. Taking the Informed Condition with respect to the driver's... condition.

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Anyways, are we going to be establishing Initiative at some point, or...?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:12, Fri 16 Sept 2016.

Okay, so something just occurred to me that we need a ruling on. According to this bit from Core--


--your weapon bonus counts as extra successes on your attack roll. Does that mean that a Champion who declares an attack as a Call of Duty roll (which they can do because Champions FTW) gets that many extra Wisps? The reason it's unclear is that that rule is the only one that explicitly calls out weapon damage as being a form of extra successes; everywhere else just says some variant of "Add the weapon bonus to your successes to determine how much damage you deal."

EDIT: Pre-rolling Initiative right now in advance of if or when we actually need to:

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14:58, Today: Zelda rolled 18 using 1d10+11.  Initiative.

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This message was last edited by the player at 20:16, Fri 16 Sept 2016.

Just noticed that a heavy pistol is Damage 2 (not 3) and therefore the above part should only have been one die; somehow I keep getting the "Dmg" and "Str" columns mixed up whenever I look at the weapon charts. Not that it matters in this case because the first die was the success anyway.

Since there is only one enemy, I'll let you all act before he does because of surprise. Imnsho  forum games work best if post order is used instead of rolled initiative, and all enemies act when all players are done posting and acting.
if rolls need to be made, I'll always use what you rolled in the dice roller.

Only weapons and things that specifically add successes actually add automatic successes. Hmm, this sentence is less than inteligible. I'll yell if this comes up.

There's a good half-and-half sort of system that a M&M campaign I'm in has been using that goes like this:

1. Players roll initiative normally.
2. GM rolls initiative once for all NPCs collectively.
3. The players who rolled higher than the NPCs act in whatever order they happen to post in.
4. The NPCs act in whatever order the GM prefers.
5. All the players act in whatever order they happen to post in.
6. Repeat 4 and 5 until combat is over.

The only problem with using that here is that it gets hard to account for changes in initiative due to weapon swaps without basically ignoring them after the first "round," though hopefully nothing will break too badly if we just do exactly that. Also the players should probably be allowed to decide the chronological order of their turns independently of post order, since Defense penalties for multiple attacks mean that attack order is very important in this system.


It's going to come up next turn because Zelda's totally about to open fire and I don't see any major reason to not Call of Duty it right off the bat.

Anyways, what about that Empathy roll I made, or are you saving the results for your next IC post?
This message was last edited by the player at 23:51, Fri 16 Sept 2016.

Oh yeah the empathy roll will offer quite a bit of insight.

That reminds me. Shirley is going to cast Touch of Fortune on Zelda next turn, so reroll your 9s.

Hey Zelda, how does your initiative jump 4 points from Mundane to Transformed?

I'm assuming you mean "in general" rather than "on the Empathy roll that there's no way I need any more successes on and that I've already made reflexively without Touch of Fortune having actually been cast yet." :P


Firefight 1, add your Firearms to initiative as long as your gun is in your hand.

Speaking of which, I don't think that last post was actually the driver's next turn, he didn't do anything and Nina hasn't acted at all yet (*cough*). So you jumped the gun a bit transforming already.

Sorry about that, I'm a slow poster by nature. I'm typing something up, should I roll dice before or after I finish typing up my post?(Guessing before)

Write until you need to roll and then check how it would affect your post.

Yup, rolls are made the moment you need them. If you don't know what defense you are against, just roll the full pool.

The driver's action will follow after nina has a post.

Psst, if you're going to still inexplicably have Small-Framed then at least don't forget about the entire benefit of it. :P

...Or about your second dot of Stealth while transformed. Or about Aria being free when you're trying to ambush someone. And possibly your specialty? Not sure if "inside a bus" counts as an urban environment.

...I'm an idiot. An idiot who kept Small-Framed because he couldn't think of anything better to replace it with. As for the other three, I found reason for each that made it sketchy as to whether or not they applied in the situation, and decided to err on the side of caution.

Also, I'm going to start using that scratchpad a lot more to avoid stuff like this.

Do you have the updated core book? Because I just got it the other day and it has some neat investigation rules that aren't in GMC and a pair of new merits that interact with it (Investigative Aide and Investigative Prodigy) that seem like they might be up Nina's alley. Alternatively, Eye for the Strange seems like a good fit.

As for the other Stealth bonuses, Aria is free "when a Princess intends to catch someone by surprise" which Nina is definitely trying to do right now, and I don't see how she wouldn't be using her transformed skill rating now that she's just transformed.

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Speaking of merits and being an idiot, I just realized that my new version of Truly Mundane functionally prevents the use of most Bequests in mundane form when I didn't intend for it to. Should I fix that or would you rather roll with it and cope with having to be transformed to open your Bottomless Bag (or replace that merit too)?

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...Also speaking of merits, remember how I asked a while back about how to price Inari if MReav wants him to be Sworn? Well somehow I missed that the rules for Sworn Retainers are right there in the merits section of the book:


As for Inari also being a Shikigami, I think what makes the most sense is to be able to trade some or all of his Bequest dots for dots in Shikigami merits (as opposed to letting him double up on template-granted merit dots).

I don't have the 2E Corebook yet.

Hmm...Eye of the Strange could definitely work, or some upgrades to the Bottomless Bag. Part of the reason I've kept Small-Framed is that most of the other merits can be bought later, while Small-Framed can only be bought at character creation.
I interpreted Aria as being useful for the actual surprise, and not for the setup. So, when Nina takes the shot, not when she's skulking around.

As for the Transformed dot, I had been viewing the Stealth roll for also hiding while Transforming. I didn't think the dot applied in that situation.

So yeah, me being overly cautious with applying bonuses is pretty much the best explanation I have.
I went into this game with the assumption that Nina couldn't use bequests. It would be nice if she could, but I'm not too hung up on it.

In that case I'll summarize the system later when I have more time and paraphrase what the merits do.

Anyone who does have 2e Core and hasn't read the investigation section yet I highly recommend it. That and the new chase rules and especially the new rules for "building" equipment, with "building" in quotes because for the purposes of that system "equipment" includes things like plans, research materials, and NPC assistance.


I mean if you want to keep Small-Framed while technically being slightly too tall for it (maybe she's really skinny or otherwise of slight build instead?) then I don't personally have a problem with that, it's more Phlegyas' call.


Key phrase "intends to." If the purpose of whatever you're doing is to eventually surprise someone, it counts.


The way you wrote everything it sounded like you meant it as transforming and then sneaking. As long as Nina was seated when she transformed I don't think anyone's going to immediately notice her doing it what with the other chairs in the way, especially with everyone else focused on each other.


Okay then, feature-not-bug it is.

Thanks for the advice, Zelda. With Phlegyas's concent, I'll be switching Small-Framed for Eye of the Strange. I will also hopefully be smarter about dice bonuses in the future.

Also, earlier in the thread, we talked about Nina and Zelda knowing each other. Is that still a thing, because if it is I'm planning on bringing it up in a post or two.

Nina, Holy Shield works differently these days. They now downgrade damage. Also, you're Inner Light 1, so you can only spend 1 Wisp a turn.

Hey Phlegyas, need a ruling. Fuoco applies for free when you "intend... to strike at enemies with [your] full force." Do only the attacks themselves count for that, or does raising your defenses via Palladion and/or Barrier Jacket also count by the logic that you can't strike with "full force" if you have wound penalties?

I also need that ruling on weapon bonuses and Wisp gain pretty soon.


Yes, they do know each other.

It applies only to attack powers, i'd say. Or else you could rationalize just about anything into it, right?

You can all still change details on your char sheets.

I'll say you can invoke most defenses reflexively. Then again, so can the enemies.

I believe dogs have 4 defense.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:39, Tue 20 Sept 2016.

They did back in 1e when defense was only based on attributes. Now that Athletics contributes the "trained guard dog" in Core 2e has 7 defense and if you were to port the "dog" entry from Core 1e it would have 8. Of course the sample NPCs in both core books are all stupidly OP, I just ran the numbers on the new list and the "weakest" one has 4 XP worth of extra attributes and most of the rest have 12+.

I would love it if dogs only had 4 defense, it is quite a difference.

rly? My copy states dogs have 4 defence. That's why I picked them - reasonable opponents etc. Just assume these have 4 defence.

Awesome, I'll update my post!

Ugh. Did not have much luck on that roll? Zelda, you get one use of the Fortunate tilt, so make it count.

You forgot to apply Specchio. How do you forget to apply Specchio? :P

Kind of running on autopilot. Anyway, it didn't really help.

...My only hope is that I'm absorbing all of the failures for the rest of you. Also, I forgot to account for the Darkspawn's defense. Sorry. Phlegyas, how do you want to resolve this roll?

Since you didn't check the "Record Each Die" box* the only way is to reroll with the Defense penalty. And without Specchio, since in this case that adds to damage instead.

* Protip: everyone check that box from now on.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:16, Wed 21 Sept 2016.

Heads up @RdMarquis/Drachenstern, I was just skimming the merit list and Destiny has been changed significantly. Here's the new text:


So first off you should get back the Destiny point you just spent; I think it'd be fair to just let the two successes stand given there's only a 20% chance of the second success having been on the last die.

Secondly, instead of a Bane of "A moment of mistrust may cause a day of tragedy to repeat," Shirley now has a Doom of "Betrayed" (assuming that the betrayal part is still ultimately what you're going for).

I really need to check the Princess website more often. And to get the new core book. I think these new rules are based on the Dooms from CoD. Also, I was actually thinking Shirley's Doom would be based on the enemies who come with her position. Is "Opposed" too vague a term?

It's not too vague, but it's also not a good Doom because the Doom describes what happens to your character, not how it happens, and "Opposed" is (IMO) usually more of a how. "Thwarted" would be the closest thing that does fit that but it would imply that fate itself is out to see Shirley fail in her major goals, which you might or might not want.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:15, Wed 21 Sept 2016.

In reply to Drachenstern (msg # 221):

I'll let you reroll. In the future, i'll state enemy defense to speed things.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:51, Wed 21 Sept 2016.

It's obviously not relevant right now, but are we going to be using the "Beaten Down and Surrender" rules? They're still technically marked as "Optional" so I wanted to double-check.

I'm swamped right now so I can't post at length. Expect next update on sunday.

I do use the beaten down and Surrender rule. Bear in mind that there are fates much worse than death for a Princess, even without wading into H territory :P Also, you do not take the Beaten Down Tilt if your opponent's intent is to harm or to kill you, it only applies when the combat is a means to an end.

have you deduced what the driver is after or do you need a nudge?
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:31, Thu 22 Sept 2016.

Wisps, for one.

Anyway, if Specchio applies to that attack, it's 5 Lethal.

wisp regenerate only for rolled dice.

Given that the needle glows in the presense of the Light, I'm thinking Light related things. We should check if our victim is a sworn/beacon.

Though it might just be magic.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:56, Thu 22 Sept 2016.

I think you've made it plenty obvious that the driver('s possessor) is wanting to use that syringey thing to suck Light out of people. Which, considering that that's Alhambra's MO, and that Alhambra has a thing for ghosts...

...Are the dots that someone with a positive Occult rating should be connecting some time before this scene is done. ;)

On a different note, @andreamus/Zoe, I just want to check and make sure you're aware that a Vice of "Rude" is going to pose... certain problems for a Princess of Hearts. Namely, Terra's ban.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:58, Thu 22 Sept 2016.

Oh, I am well aware.  That was a conscious choice to make things hard on myself.  You can take the girl out of the streets...

Not like she'll have plenty of othrer problems, right? >:)

Oh, definitely not.

I find that the longer that I've been roleplaying, the meaner I am to my own characters.  I'm not sure what that says about me.

In reply to Zoe (msg # 236):

It's a definite hint at sadomasochistic tendencies. Then again, flawed characters are fun to play... ;)

Obviously it's a product of your subconscious desire to play on hard mode. :P

So I was just reviewing some Charms and noticed a rather important part of Reflected Light that I didn't remember about before:


Firstly, that means that creatures of Darkness will only ping Reflected Light if they have the Void Magic Caligo (which lets them use their Shadows as supernatural tolerance). Secondly, it means that a case could in fact be made for Truly Mundane making you not ping Reflected Light while in mundane form, which was one of the options someone brought up before for what to do about Tabitha.

hmmmmmmmm.

what do the rest of you say? I'll let you vote on it. I can find tropes for either approach.

I think it's amusing.

Plus, it might explain why I missed the dude.

In reply to Shira Rosenberg (msg # 241):

It depends on narrative priorities, really. What we'd previously decided on was for Tabitha to have Veiling 4-5 so that Shira can still sense that there's someone supernatural at school besides the applicable PCs but is at a chance die to tell who it is or what they are; while that would mean her "disguise" isn't quite foolproof, the upside is that she could have Practical Reflected Light herself which would explain why she was tapped to search for other Nobles in the first place (not to mention allow for any number of plot complications based on the fact that she'd already have picked out Zelda, Shira, and Shirley as Nobles by now seeing as none of us have Veiling). Giving her Truly Mundane would make her completely invisible to Shira, but come with the downside that she'd either have to do her job the hard way or carry a Bequest of Reflected Light which Inari could pinpoint with his Unseen Sense.

...Actually, now that I mentioned it Inari's Unseen Sense (Light) is going to pick up her general presence no matter which option we go with, unless we want to rule that being in mundane form fools that one too. At the very least I think Dual Identity should count as "conceal[ing one's] supernatural nature" for the purpose of keeping him from becoming Spooked to pinpoint someone.

Veiling tops out at 3.

*checks*

Yes it does, though I'm really not sure why.

Also, FYI, Darkspawn that attacked Shira just now got a dramatic failure.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:55, Sun 25 Sept 2016.

We both just took on the driver.

My rolls definitely turned out better than yours did.

check the numbers in the table and correct them if I got it wrong.

Huh. I wrote something about the crit fail maw-thing colliding with a handrail - where did that paragraph go? Silly me.

...lawl. How do you roll 1 success with 15 dice?
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:22, Mon 26 Sept 2016.

I should have a base of 6 defense, and 8 when i have my shield out, which I do.  I also have 1 armor.

I just checked and there was actually still a 2.75% chance of that, but still. :/
This message was last edited by the player at 01:58, Mon 26 Sept 2016.

...I think I made the same mistake with my attack roll Drachenstern did.

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww poor bunny.

Obviously, I'll try something else if it looks like some kind of action movie, "nudge this without disarming it and it'll blow up" type of explosive. If not, will moving the bomb take the entire turn?

do any of your characters have bomb squad training? :)

Well, if moving it safely is impossible, I'll try something else.

Technically we don't know if it's even armed right now in the first place, though that should hopefully be obvious just by taking a close enough look at it.

A little time and an int+science roll should suffice...

I don't have that skill. But anyone who does is welcome to give it a shot.

I wonder if we're just going to end up stuffing the bomb into Nina's bag.

...Maybe. I just checked and as far as I can tell the Charm text is completely silent on whether that would help.

Alternatively, Shira could throw it about 100 feet assuming it's Size 2.

Wait, really?

Short range for throwing things is Str + Dex + Athletics - Size yards. Doubled for Medium. Doubled again for Long.

Shira transformed has 4 + 2 + 3 - 2 (Assuming Size 2) = 7. So 7 * 2 = 14  * 2 = 28.

28 * 3 is 84 feet. I'm not trying to hit anything so I don't really care about accuracy.

You forgot your transformed Athletics dot. 2 * 2 * (4 + 2 + 4 - 2) = 32. And whether that's 96 or 106.5 feet depends on whether we want to measure ranges in yards or meters because WW/OP has an extremely embarrassing habit of thinking the two are interchangeable.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:03, Wed 28 Sept 2016.

I did include my transformed dot. I only have 2 dots in Athletics, +1 Transformed.

[confusion intensifies]

*checks math*

*remembers 2 + 1 = 3*

I have a similar spread (4 dex transformed, 2 Str, and 3 dex), so I could do the same if need be.

As could Zelda now that I think about it (Str 2/Dex 4/Ath 3). Shira's the only one of the three whose hands aren't currently full though.

I'm currently grappling with the driver on the floor.

It's called jew jitsu.
#rimshot#

...So I was just going to grab that one photo to post but then something rather interesting came up in the search suggestions:

https://www.amazon.com/Jew-Jit...s-Fury/dp/0806530014

Can't tell if actual martial arts manual but either way I NEED IT.

Would it be insensitive to suggest that she take Krav Maga lessons at some point?

Also, I'm going to try one more attack (with Autofire to avoid rolling a chance die), then hide behind you guys and dole out buffs.

Please tell me I did that roll correctly. If so, that's 12 damage (with Specchio) on the nearest Darkspawn.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:38, Wed 28 Sept 2016.

okay, so Drachenstern is living up to her name, and blew out the side of the bus and the building behind it...

With Shira's name and skills, I thought it is just natural to assume she trained in Krav Maga.

I first heard about that rabbi 15ish years ago. And yes, he teaches this as a serious martial art. For extra giggles, try googling for "Abir" and "Abir hoax".

You didn't; Destiny applies rote, not 8-again, so your roll should be 9,10(+4),7(+8),8,4(+9). Which is only two less damage, lucky you. ;)



She did, it's just hard to tell because her specialties are in a weird place (specifically, in the "Statistics Block" underneath her Charms).

Shira has Krav Maga. Her mom was a trainer in the IDF before running off to America with her dad.

I edited my character sheet so the specialties are in the more obvious place.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:38, Wed 28 Sept 2016.

In reply to Zelda (msg # 266):

I might still be the best choice depending on the weight.

So... is Shira the one seeing/having seen the thing that just happened in the Dreamlands thread?

everything happens.

Not only does that not answer the question, I have no idea what it's supposed to mean. :/
This message was last edited by the player at 00:45, Thu 29 Sept 2016.

I think it means that posts in the Dreamlands are nonlinear and you can join in or not.

Exactly. The first line in that thread is>



Any and all weirdness can happen there. However, nothing will have consequences apart from increasing your fun. There will be times I'll use it for a bit of exposition, like now. You can ask the driver things, or try to figure out why he is possessed... or not.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:07, Thu 29 Sept 2016.

Bah. I was worried there was a creepy surprise waiting for us outside of the bus. Hope we didn't wind up in the Dark World.

...mmm, I need to step up my descriptions if there is any hope left.