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What is your fav baddie?

I really have a soft spot for Orks <and tek heretiks for some odd reason>....
I really hope the new creatures book does them justice.

The preview of a new beasty looks awesome!
http://new.fantasyflightgames....ge_news.asp?eidn=346

And if this is the new Lictor it certainly has had a facelift since the last time I played the table top game.

I have a soft spot for the green horde, also. I'm really interested to see how their psyker powers translate into the DH setting, a giant green foot from G&M would definately up the WTF?? factor.

Has anyone tried creating a high level character? I've been playing around with the career options tonight and it is quite hard to keep track of the advances.

I have made a few high level NPC's and find it best to do each 100xp one at a time.  It does get hard to keep track of.

I've done one or two for the fun of it and alocated experence per level.

So first I'd spend 500 points at 1st level then the next 500 points to 2nd level and so on. I write down the levels on scrap paper then put the relevant abilities I buy under each level.

It means I can see quickly what I've got and makes it easy when trying to gather all the skills / ablilies together for the finishewd character.

sounds painfully simple when I read the above but I'm a simple Welshman so the simpler the better :o)
This message was last edited by the player at 08:22, Fri 23 Jan 2009.

Well from the standard DH perspective it would have to be Tau, there's just something with leaving the players knowing the 'foul xenos' society they are opposing is almost certainily nicer than the one they are protecting.

I liked Tau when they first came out. Thought they were very cool with a nice background and good models but then GW (like most things) went and ruined it. GW really has gone down hill in recent years.

I don't venture into a GW shop anymore, at 40 years old I find I just can't talk to the staff especially when I know most of them weren't even a twinkle in their parent's eye when I started gaming :o)

I also find the continually smilling faces off putting...it's like joining a cult or something :o)

Only joking I ound their figures great until they went to plastic and slot bases. I remember then in little plastic bags and a goblin cost me 30p

I just find them overly chuncky now a days but I do still like reading the books and army lists and the universe fluff is great.

I love the Tau. Why? because I play them in Warhammer 40,000 Tabletop. Great race!

"Firewarrior" is a great game for the PS2.  My first experience with the Tau.  Great fun fighting the Imp Guard, and the Space Marines still make me shudder.

You shudder, at the normal space marines?

Did you ever get past the Admiral and see that normal Space Marines are a lot, lot mild than the crap that comes for you?

I beat the game...and yes it did get a lot harder...the Space Marine were just so cool and if memory serves me it was before I was totally tricked out with guns.

The dreadnoughts were a nightmare=:)

dreadnoughts weren't that bad...
i recall shooting the crap out of one in a few seconds. Now the demon at the end.. THAT was a problem!

the only thing i hated about the game was the slow aiming system (played the PC version, which was almost a direct port from the PS2)

btw, did you guys notice that Kais (the firewarrior from.. firewarrior) has returned? In DoW Dark Crusade, the commander is also called Kais.. a coincidence? i think not!

Valthek:

Kais is actually a pretty common name in the Tau Empire.

The Tau have three parts in there name. They have their caste and rank. For example, in Fire warrior Kais is a Shas'el, so the first part of his name would Shas'el. Shas'el is a basic trooper in the Tau army. However, in Dark Crusade, Kais is a Shas'O, so the first part of his name would be Shas'O.

The second part of a Tau's name is the sept he was born on. For example, Kais in Dark Crusade was from Ta'u, so he would be known as Shas'O Ta'u Kais. The Kais from Fire warrior was also from Ta'u though.

Finally, the last part of the name is what describes the Tau. For example, Kais means skillful, and there are a lot of skillful people in the Tau Empire.

So, there are a good number of Kais' running around out there.

still a fun idea though, that it's the same character (btw, The firewarrior Kais gets a promotion halfway trough the game i believe (to shas'ui, if i'm not mistaken)

Indeed, although it takes another 3 years of continued service to get promoted to a Shas'vre and then another 3 years to get promoted to a Shas'el.

In reply to nareik123 (msg #18):

how long does it take to go from Shas'el to Shas'ui?

Sorry, I was incorrect, it was Shas'la to Shas'ui. Shas'el is actually a Commander Rank, second only to Shas'O.

Usually, to ascend a rank in the Fire Caste, you must pass a trial by fire. This is either surviving a key event or performing a specialist task. If you die, you die. If you survive, you are promoted. If you fail the task, you must wait till another trial by fire, although failing is actually really hard, compared to surviving.

Each Trial by Fire is every three years. So to reach a Shas'el rank, you must have served (and survived) for nine years, including three major tasks. Thankfuly, when you hit Shas'ui, it does become slightly easier as you get a Crisis Battlesuit for your troubles.

does killing a greater demon by yourself count as a specialist task/surviving a key event?

The chance of killing a greater daemon as a Fire warrior is virtually non existant, but I do believe it would.

New preview up on Fantasy Flight's site-



Fenksworld Pit Thing

A hand to hand beast that screws with psykers!  Nice!
d10+10 pen 3 attack!  Holy snap!