yeah i think so. There are several refferences to Eisenhorn, so the two series are probably 'related'

I think Ravenor was one of Eisenhorn's interrogators who gets horribly wounded fighting the daemon host Cherebul. Does that sound about right to anyone?

sounds about right. He is, after all, bound to stasis chest, because he's been horribly mutilated or something. Only his (Humongous) psychic powers alow him to continue the fight

He was injured when a number of extremely powerful psykers were captured by a powerful inquisitor, and paraded on one of the core worlds in Eisonhorns sector. It was all actually a plot of some sort to spirit the rest of them away. Ravenor was crushed under the burning debris of a large monument strcuture and a crashed Lightning fighter.

I need to pick up a new copy of the Eisenhorn omnibus.

I highly recommend as I'm sure others have, the Eisenhorn and Ravenor series as fiction and as source material.

In reply to MGhint (msg #32):

Yeah Ravenor and Eisenhorn are two must haves, BL is trying to market a Inquistor's handbook, not the RPG version, more of just a vat of information and 80 percent of it is from those two tomes.  This is an old one, and way out of print the Original "Warhammer 40,000 INQUISITOR" by Ian Watson, before Black Library back when it was the old GW books.  It is alright, but when it came out it was earth shattering for those of use ready to lead the purge.  And I know I am old enough to read books without pictures, I survived Don Quixote, Dostoevsky and Tolstoy, but with all the great artist at their disposal throw in a couple of pics that didn't make the grade for White Dwarf.  This old Ian Watson has Illustraitions by John Blanche, Paul Bonner, Tony Hough, Adrian Smith, Stephen Tappin and Kevin Walker.

On another note what I would pay top dollar to see is a version of Batman Black/White available by itunes, for anyone with a video player it is five dollars a little more than a comic book, but really well done, you just have to see it.  It is a throw back to scan, pan, and cut out animation, with good writing, music, sound effects and editing.  I never understood why GW or Citadel or any of thier sister and brother companies did such a terrible job promoting themselves, now they start, but with video-games their direct competition.  Yet another reason for the American revolution, the Zulu rebellion and every other destruction of British colonialism, they can't advertise product and they sure as hell can't advertise government control.  This post has been put out to pasture.  Thanks for the ventilation shaft.  Although I will have to pick up Flakk's suggestion, at least they are trying something new.

Just finished "Witch Hunter" by CL Werner.  Great book!  An essential for any would be Witch Hunter.  Cool plot twists keep you guessing and loads of background information make for a solid story.  As a plus for me it mentions Wurtbad a few times.  Why would I care about that?  Well it is the major setting for my Fantasy campaign and from the sound of things will be a major setting in the next book.

****1/2 out of 5 severed Ork heads.  I can't wait to read the rest of them.

I really like Streng!  What a great character.  A womanizing drunk who works for the Witch Hunter as an interrogator/tracker/assistant.

C.L. Werner is Black Libraries top three "newer" writers in my black book, extremely well developed characters that does not take an Omibus to describe.  "Witch Hunter" is also as flakk mentioned actually has plot twist the major fault to most SCI-FI, excuse me "Fantasy" (for you hardline genre freaks).

I hope some of you that read from the Black Libraries that need a break, from the sometimes overly dark and dismal world, especially of 40k to pick up anything (Alex Stewart) who goes by Sandy Mitchell does, I don't know how to rate it, severed Ork heads is taken, but at least a Ork tooth or two with some fungus ale, would be perfect for this fodder.

There is nothing funnier in the Library than Sandy Mitchell's Ciaphas (pronounced kai-a-fass, pure biblical joke) Cain works, just imagine if John Cleese had managed to become a Commisar, it isn't over the top, the editors see that the writer doesn't swallow her tongue while in cheek.  The stories and characters are a nice break from an eight hour session of slaying Slaanesh demons or even worse playing Slaanesh demons, a little remider and piece of advice from an old GM in the sky now, "STOP TAKE A BREAK, TAKE A WALK, READ A BOOK, EVERYTHING IS NOT GAMING".  For anyone about to burnout a little over ten bucks and you will be set you up with 800 pages, his first three books plus three extra adventures that all started out as stories to amuse himself.

By the way, I don't know if I am the the first to actually take some one's advice on this thread and actually shell some gelt on GW pulp, but flakk was dead spot on with his praise of WARHAMMER'S "FORGE OF WAR" comic, read the most recent that I could find the 5th and had my comic book "guy" back order the first four, I am extremely picky about comics, flakk was right, this is good, art awesome, story good enough, but if no one is reading this BOOM comic use it for WFRP adventures, it is like they were designed for them, thanks again flakk. And please don't let me forget to ask you how you got your hands on that CREMLIN album, they have a good MYSPACE sight, if you know anyone in the band you should get that stuffed signed I swear they are one "Kim Deal" short of famous.

Thanks for the recommendation.  I love John Cleese!  "Faulty Towers" rules!  I will have to check it out.


Glad you liked it.  It would make a great adventure!  I went back to the same shop last night to see if they got any new issues in and sadly they don't.  They are all on Amazon so if my local shop does not get them in soon I'll have to fold and grab them up because they are pretty good.  I'm kinda kicking myself because they had the third TPB of the Black Templar comic a couple weeks ago and I decided to wait....now it's gone.


I ordered it from their facebook group and got it in the mail less than 2 weeks after.  Their CD's come from a distributor so I could not get one signed but apparently I have a t-shirt and photo being held for me.  Gotta love knowing the mother of the lead=:)
http://www.facebook.com/ext/sh...;h=q937E&u=ErOTj

Gotta love the mutha's, no actually one of the few networking whore's I am not subscribed to, well maybe, I spend way to much time on my f ing computer I think I do, thanks for all the info and yeah and a "Towers" fan to boot, well done sir.  I never knew John Cleese was actually as prim and proper as he really is, he felt most of Monty Python's skits were a bit too much he is actually a pretty conservative guy.

So I would have to say just mix in the whole Python crew and that is what you will get.  It would actually be fun to run a game Dark Heresy Game with a bit of humor in it anyway, I mean most of the forum is hard core fan's they would get most any "inside joke", still working on my never to be finished game that I need a GM or a lobotomy for, I wish I had learned CAD.

post script: is Furry Teddy out of the forum, did he pick up any moderators? I friggin got banned from the GM section for mentioning the forum to a couple of guys the other week looking for a game, no offense to anyone who has been a moderator for RPol or any other site, but jebus christmas that is the least amount of power I have seen go to someone's head.

Not sure.  I dropped him a PM to see if he needs any help.

I got banned as well.  rMail the mods and explain which rule you broke and you'll get back in.  Same reason I was banned by the sounds of things.  That's what I get for being helpful.

Is this the same John Cleese who was the first guy to say f*** at a British memorial service?

Seriously, if you ever read an interview with him, which is rare, he really is a proper english gent, *goes back and turns on Faulty Towers*, if you have seen Towers than you can see the obvious difference between John Cleese and The rest of the Python rabble that would F a herring if it could get on the BBC, he really didn't like a lot of their skits. Lets put it this way when they asked him what was his favorite Monty film, he said and by far, "Life of Brian", now the actual material is more dicey than any Python film ever made, but their is no famous disgusting scene, as the wafer thin mint, or the knight who would not die, he just didn't go for the TnA or shock value.  Never mind just try and get a good interview with him I don't think Playboy did one but I know Mike Wallace from 60 minutes got one alright, I can't remember the really famous one.  I will get back to you "Crucifixion? Goood! One cross... stay to your left!"
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Exterminatus

Not a bad comic.  It reads like an adventure straight out of DH.  The art work is lacking, which would be my major beef.  Compared to the other TPB's I've read recently this one looked rushed.  Overall a good read and it gave me many evil ideas for my own campaign.  A nice look at an Inquisitor and his retinue.

***1/2 boltguns out of five!

i dig that. Got that exact same comic myself, and i liked it quite a bit

Anyone else read (and love) "Servants of the Imperium"?

http://www.servantsoftheimperi.../index.php?comicid=1

Are there any materials (canon or otherwise) that postulate what happens in Warhammer 50K?

I am thinking of setting a game 10,000 years in the future of the current setting.

Yeah, I was pointed towards 'Servants of the Imperium' by someone in my game. I spent about a hour tracking back through past strips, and laughed out loud at almost every one.

You may also find 'Exterminatus Now' worth a look. It's not exactly 40K, but clearly set in a parallel universe adjacent to it, and if your gaming group is anything like mine you'll recognise the banter...

http://exterminatusnow.comicgenesis.com/

I just finished "Witch Finder", #2 in the "Witch Hunter series.  Not bad.  I like the addition of the Knight of Morr, and any book with Skaven in it (and done properly) is welcome as well.  It took me awhile to get through the rather short book, and a few plot points did not make sense, but all in all a good book and worth checking out.

31/2 out of 5 severed Ork heads



RevMark, thanks for the heads up re. the comic. Pretty cool stuff.

It's a shame that the witchhunter series "ends" with about half its plot hooks unsolved

"Do you know any good novels about the 40k steeing that closely relate to DH?
Not like the Horus Heresy or any other grand space marine books, but the story of smalltime heroes with the usual flaws?"- From another thread.....

The big ONE of Inquisitorial interest would be the Eisenhorn triology closly followed by Ravenor

It may be "grand" but if you are looking for a hero with flaws Sandy Mitchell's Ciaphas Cain is a tongue-in-cheek brand of humor, there is an cameo by an Inquisitor, but Algard speaks truth, nothing beats Dan Abnett, and now he is penning comic books to boot. Praise the Golden Throne for Abnett!!!

Dan Abnett is a bit hit and miss for me, I liked the Eisenhorn triology and the related short stories and even the bits made for Inquisitor, but I dont like Gaunt's Ghosts, I got a few pages into the first one and thought 'Hmm this is sharpe in space, where's my Bernard Cormwall books they are better written.'

Horus rising was entertaining but the whole battle scene where Abbadon and his black armour wearing Termies are walking across the battlefield with the description 'it was like looking at another legion some black legion' made me put the book down and slap my head. But, for me (and it is at this point a lynch mob turns up) his best work is alongside mike lee with the Darkblade books, for some reason I just find them more enjoyable.

When it comes to 40K stories, I usually read Sandy Mitchell's Caiphas Cain books, the tongue-in-cheek approach to the 41st millenium is strange, but it works, although if you are going to read them, stick with the first three/four the more recent ones are a bit hit and miss

I'm currently having a read of the Vampire Wars series by Steven Savile and I have to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by him. I've never read one of his stories and, even though it drags at certain points along the way, it never gets boring, currently halfway through book number 2 in the omnibus and so far I'm giving it three vampire fangs out of five.

Other books that I do heartily recommend from the writers over at the Black Library are the Witch Hunter series by C.L. Werner, even though it has one Mary Sue character, you'll know him when you see him ;)

The Black Hearts by Nathan Long, because I love reading about Anti-heroes, and that book is chock-full of them, to me the first book is really special because you really get that feel they aren't gonna live through what they've been forced into.

The Space Wolf omnibus by William King, it really shows the difference, or maybe Mr. King just wanted to make a difference, between how several of the Legions bring their space marines into being. Plus the race between the Space Wolves and the Orks is a nice gimmick :P

There are several other books as well that I haven't put up here just because I'd be writing for the next thirty minutes I think :P

Also, Banjo, I agree with what you said about Horus Rising, "I see a Legion, A black Legion", I was like.. "Abnett.. if you've got a writing block, don't write :P"