Yes I am! ;-)
Sent you a PM so we don't go off subject here...

I have had the Blood Bowl game for alittle while, a league would be interesting.

indeed

<Bump>  I just bumped this thread so that the 40k MMORPG discussion can take place here=:)

Hope it dosent turn out to be a pure Astartes funk fest...

ArenTrel,

BB is a good game, I was worried they would make a ...' watered down' version or something  But its all there and room for customising the rules.

Weird tho, because it looks so great to watch, I think I take more risks...

And weirder still, that doesn't seem to make me lose more games...  if anything I get more TDs.

Must admit I'm more familiar with LRB 4, but I am getting used to and enjoying the newer additions, like Fend and Wrestle as a counter to Block...  been needed for ages TBH.

I'd be nice if you could be Sisters or Guardsmen in the MMO.

I won't play it because I can't afford the cost of an MMO, but, I can always thumbs up Sisters and Guardsmen.

Emperor forgive me, this will be a long rant:

I haven't played any of the psp games.

But (before you say it, yes I'm old!) I've played (in order) HeroQuest, Space Hulk (Space Crusade for some reason did not work on my Amiga), Chaos Gate, Dark Omen, DoW, Warhammer Battlemarch (which my pc can't run), and Warhammer Age of Reckoning (which my pc also can't run).  I didn't play Final Liberation but god I wanted to! And DoWII will cause my current PC to keel over and die.
Chaos Gate has some of the best 40k music ever!

HeroQuest was just so much easy fun to while away an hour or two.
Space hulk: Oh my god what a tough game.  It took me weeks just to get off the first unmapped tutorial.  And boy was it fun.
Chaos Gate is kinda meh.  It was made about the same time as XCom I think and it shows.  Apart from specific troops you will kill far more enemies using overwatch fire than in your own turn.  But the music... the music stays with you forever.
Dark Omen (and 2): Also tough, also fun. One of the only translations of Warhammer Fantasy to computer until battlemarch, which for some reason everyone hated.
Dawn of War: Oh my god I love this game for it's quick in and out style.  I'm no competetive gamer but I will chuck this game into my drive change sides and work out the strategy to wipe my CPU opponent off the map.  Except the guard.  I've never yet beaten CPU guard. Too many bodies to shoot through.  The only blight in this series is the meh that is Soulstorm.  I love seeing the sisters of battle, but the series should have stopped at Dark Crusade until the sequel.
Battlemarch: The Warhammer snipe at the Total War brand and doesn't quite pull it off.
Warhammer Age of Reckoning: So many of my hopes here. And so many got knocked off their pedestals like the targets at a Coconut Shy.  I followed this on the forums since pre-alpha, got disillusioned with the whole thing, and then came back during a 14 day trial.  It was just unfortunate that nearly everything characterful is now locked in game and can't be accessed.  Like the orc and dwarf starting zones (the orc one particularly).  The Order side get stuck with a been-here-before human city and the chaos starter, while vaguely more interesting gets boring when you have to play it through with every conceivably possible Destruction class.
RE Bloodbowl:  When I saw who was making it I headdesked.  I played Chaos League, in its defence not particularly well, and was not impressed.  From what the reviews stated about Bloodbowl, I guessed my initial instinct that they just repackaged the graphics was not too far off the mark.

40k MMO:  I don't see how they are going to make this fly without being very specific.  In a way, this will not be a bad thing. Part of the reason WAR was not as successful as anticipated was that the design was too ambitious from the get go, and looking to include too many features (but we are all wise with hindsight).

In a starting MMO, you have to consider basic classes and party synergy and a marine tactical squad, or an imperial guard squad really does have this down on the table top.  Heavy weapons check, assault weapons check, general utility check.  The same with a basic ork squad.

Other races basic groupings are usually too specialised to fit nicely into archetypal roles and usually so forgettable people do just that.  Take the Eldar.  People don't want to play Eldar Guardians.  They want to play Howling Banshees, or Dark Reapers, but although the MMO doesn't have to follow the rules of tabletop Banshees and Reapers fight in squads with other Banshees and Reapers which are extremely specialised.  The only unit the Eldar have with the overall synergy expected in an MMO is the humble Guardian squad.

I really do apologise for my long, long and probably completely off base rant.
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Well I think they might be a decient way to pull that off in an MMO, with in world justification with the Eldar. Basiclly everybody starts out as a Guardian at first level, and as they level up they can specialize and get training in one of the aspects. Of course it'll take a while but it might allow some specialization or generalization, such as you can specialize in a strict Howling Banshee path by stock Guardian, picking up some Storm specialty, and maybe building your way to Exarch. Though it would also make it easy to change your spec, if they are going to allow something like they do in Warcraft, by just 'changing masks' going back and building up the Defender path or what not. Of course the other races will likely need more justification, especially the Imperials which are pretty much the definition of sticks in the mud.

Though one thing I want to see more than anything else, if they do go the Order and Chaos distinction, is something like a Logician, your typical mad scientist to counter the typical Techpriest. Though at the moment, that looks like a long if not impossible shot, so just have to wait and see.

It's too bad that it'll probably end up being Ultramaroons vs Xenos vs Heretics.

No love for normal people.

http://e3.g4tv.com/videos/4663...nium-Online-Trailer/


http://e3.g4tv.com/videos/4663...e-Marine-E3-Trailer/

Warhammer Mod for civ III...

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=197452
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That beginning of that Dark Millenium trailer really reminds me of the intro to Medieval 2: Total War. It's like the same scribe just all 40ked out.

Speaking of total war, there is a great warhammer mod out called Call of Warhammer. It's what I've always hoped for in a warhammer game.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1377

On a more roleplaying note, anyone else ever played Darklands? It's set in 15th century Germany instead of the Empire but it's the computer RPG that feels the most like WFRP. I'm currently replaying it with characters based on the PCs from my games on here. It's abandonware so it's out there as a free download.

Anyone play Warhammer Age of Reckoning, the Warhammer MMO? I really enjoyed it but had to give it up shortly after launch when my daughter was born. They're doing a 14 day free period for people signing back up so I think I'm going to take advantage of that.

I only played it for a few months when it launched, but it was quite fun. If it's free, you should try it out.

I've played the free version of WAR, and I still have it on my computer.  It's definitely a lot of fun.  I love seeing the Old World like that - not only is it a pretty good MMO, but seeing all of the atmosphere and setting makes me want to play the tabletop WFRP game.

Going back to your older message, Overkill, I used to play Darklands, though I never got very far in it.  However, I printed out the game manual years ago because it was chock-full of information detailing the Holy Roman Empire of the 15th century, which made it a gold mine for use with WFRP.  I still have that document somewhere...

Yeah, I am a great fan of Darklands - fully agree that it's the closest to WFRP you get in a computer game.

Absolutely brilliant, they should remake it, staying true to the original.

I went ahead and did it. I'm back playing WAR. Come join me on the Badlands server (destruction side) or on the Volkmar server (order side).

As for Darklands, I'm right there with you. Even a relatively quick and dirty remake would be awesome.

Regarding Darklands, I actually read some article about it, purporting someone was considering that oh so wonderful proposition of remaking it, but it fell through due to pecuniary issues. Bummer.

Yeah, they had some impressive plans even when the first version came out.  There was talk in the end of the game manual of making another game set in the same time period, but covering other parts of the world...

Is this complete? I heard rumors awhile back. And is it for Medieval II?

I hope it is, Ive been away from TW series for a while.  I think it was all downhill after Rome but a warhammer mod may tempt me back for a bit of a replay.

which version of TW do you need in order to run it. I wish they had the directions and shit.

Version 1.3 of the mod is complete and playable. To run it you need Medieval 2 with the Kingdoms expansion.

There is supposedly a 1.4 coming out but it keeps getting pushed back.

No way, Medieval 2 is phenomenal! Although I admit to a huge amount of nostalgia for Rome... the world was more interesting by far.