Because sometimes you just need to talk.

Hi all!  It's your friendly neighbourhood gm and player.  I'm running- Burn all Hertics and Warhammer RP.  I playing in- Dark Herresy for Dummies, Into the Darkness <currently on hold>, and WFRP: Welmarcht court.  I'm currently awaiting two games to start- WFRP 2: Princes, Dragons and Thieves and (Dark Heresy) Thru a Darkened Mirror.  Yes I have too much free time and my gaming group (well two people) are four hours away so we only get to meet every month-month and a half.

Well, I just wanted to say a quick "hello" to everyone and give a "thank you" to Furry Teddy for coming up with a Forum where GW-addicts can get a fix.

A little about myself: I have been involved with Games Workshop products ever since I stumbled across a dusty box of Blood Bowl about 15 years ago. Unfortunately, or perhaps luckily, my parents were going through a religious kick and banned the game from my house.

Well, being a teenager and fully confident in my own competency, I set out finding as much about Blood Bowl as I could. Which led me to discovering the worlds of Rogue Trader and Space Marines and Scaven and Waaaggghh!

Through the persistance that only a knucklehead can muster, I managed to get my grimy mits on my first army...Fantasy Orks! I religated my younger brother to play as the High Elves and proceeded to smash him up and down our linoleum floor.

Anyway, since hearing the cries of my brother as my giant, cardboard cutout of a goblin shaman mounted on a wyvern descended to rend his ill-armoured archers limb from limb, I have been addicted.

I followed Games Workshop all through its various incarnations, and took every winding path as it signed off some of its products to other developers.

I currently own most of the books for either system, so I look forward to gaming with most of you in the near future.

I too like Mr. Sticks found myself in the early 90's to the world of Games Workshop through Blood Bowl, (I'm so glad they re-re-re-released it, and this is totally of the subject but has anyone seen the trailer for the Blood Bowl video game).  Back to serious matters, I think Dark Heresy is in much better shape than WFRP.  I think it could be a cool idea to do something similar to what the lads at the Star Wars groups did and group GM's by time frames, but only with WFRP give each GM a territory in the Old World and let the characters move freely about.  It would take a lot of work, but if we had a 2:1 or 3:1 or at least a 1:1 GM to player ratio it wouldn't be that difficult at all. Well maybe not, it would be a pain in the ass, but if it worked it would be EPIC.

Hmmmmmm.....1991.  Yup, that's when I first heard of Warhammer 40k and been hooked ever since.  Heading abroad I stopped playing and my Space Orks got very lonely but I joined up a Warhammer Fantasy game.  No more D and D for this guy!  Gritty and desperate PC's that could be brought low with a lucky hit seemed a lot more fun to me.  When DH came out I thought I died and went to heaven.  I've been waiting for this game since 1991!

I'm hoping that the continued success of the WH40k computer games will arouse more interest in the wargaming genre as a whole, but I REALLY want Blood Bowl to do well since it was my first exposure to G-dub. I definately dig the trailer, my fingers are crossed on this one and I hope it has appeal outside of its fanbase.

I can definately understand where Flakk is coming from about DH. I was just finishing up the Eisenhorn trilogy and I couldn't help but think that it would be a great source for roleplay when, boom!, down drops Dark Heresy.

I've been kind of burnt out on sunshine heroes skipping through the woods to do some absurd quest because a kindly wizard asked them too.

It makes you think, though, about games workshop and how convoluted their copyright laws must be, I have been literally waiting for a version of this game since the early 90's my first role-playing group came up with a home-brew system for 40k role-play, and I know a lot of other gamers who did too.  I would be my life the guys over at Dark Reign have been playing since the eighties, (the best fan site out there).  And yes the trailer is cool, but even better I have heard they are leaving in a turn by turn version to keep it as close to the real game as possible.  I heard this game will bankrupt Cyanide or it will make them millionaires.

Hello all!

Somewhat different story here.  I discovered Warhammer in '95 or '96 when I saw the core box in my FLGS (it was the one with elves vs goblins).  It took forever to actually get it because my parents refused to buy me a game which cost that much (and I don't blame them).  Once I finally did though, my brother and I got plenty of enjoyment out of that, and Necromunda as well.  Even when I found out there was a Warhammer RPG I didn't care much though, as I assumed it would be a D&D ripoff; it was only a couple years ago that I learned otherwise.  I'm now very glad that I did (even if I haven't played it as much as I'd like to by this point).

Side story, because I feel like telling it - a couple weeks ago I was running a WFRP with my tabletop group because our regular GM was unavailable.  There was only one fight during the game, but it went perfectly.  4 PCs vs 3 beastmen (slightly tougher than default stats), and the PCs took not a single point of damage between them the whole time.  It was a beautiful thing to witness.

Is anyone else excited about the new Dawn of War? Hopefully it will be as good as Company of Heroes.

For sure! The DoW always surprised me with how popular it was. I got such a kick out of seeing guys play the hell out of it who weren't the type to actually get into a games worshop store and see what it was all about.

Hi all Just joined the forum.

Well I've been roleplaying for over 28 years and came to the wonderful 40K universe via Warhammer when I bought (and still own) the white boxed set with the knight cracking the head off a skelly. (that dates me a bit)

The same time I bought that I got hold of a little set of rules called Spacefarers (which I still use) from Games Workshop it was an A5 size booklet that was the for runner for 40K.

When 40k came out I fell in love and collected a large Squat army. I then went to university and gave up wargaming but took up roleplaying. I'd always tinkered with running a 40k game using the traveller rules but never got round to it and went off to play star frontiers instead (again I still play that too)

When I heard DH was on its way I orderd two copies ( one is still unrapped). Now a days Real Life means I only get to play on line so at the moment I'm in volved with "Thru a Darkened Mirror", "Dark Heresy for Dummies" and "Free Companies" on this site.

I would dearly love to have the time to sit down round a table sometime and play it though.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:51, Thu 22 Jan 2009.

We are getting a steady stream of users coming in. If possible try to spread the word. The more people we get in then the better this forum will be and the better the forum is then the more people will want to join. : )

I'm not sure the Dawn of War, thing surprises me. It's fundamentally a really good RtS which just happens to be set in the 40K world

Well I first got into Warhammer just before Third Edition 40K came out, (As my first 40K army was won from a competetion at the time of the launch.)

I first played WFRP in the first edition, in a number of online games, and brought the second edition almost as soon as it came out. Dark heresy was a far more recent purchsase and I have yet to really do that much with it.

Just a random thought, but would there be any possibility/interest in setting up a board where we could post NPCs from the different systems? Kind of like a database, or NPC bin, that GMs could use for inspiration or to handle those times when you don't have the stats for that one character who has now, inexplicably, become the center of the Player's interest?

Maybe to help others dissect it, it could be in the following format:

Name:
Concept:
Books Used:
Quote:
Background:

Stats: (in spoiler mode)

To avoid too much clutter, any discussion about the NPCs could then be ported over to their relevant game system board. For example, seeing a WFRP character Flakk came up with, I went over to WFRP: Discussion and started my post off with:

In regards to Bonko the Butcheress: I noticed that she had blahblah skill pairing, was there a way you used this in a certain situation, or does it reveal more about her previous careers?

Any thoughts? Personally, I find it can be a bit tiring to roll up 50 different NPCs to effectively cast a complex game...I'm really just motivated by my own laziness, which is a complete contradiction, I realize.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:24, Sat 24 Jan 2009.

I actually like that idea, especially since I have difficulty matching up fights between characters and boss fights.

I think that's a brilliant idea!

If we made the board where people post NPC's they've created, we should have a wide mix.
GM! WE BE NEEDING A NPC BOARD PRETTY PLEASE!

I'm putting what games I am gming/playing in my description.  I have no secrets so please feel free to follow suit if you want to=:)

good idea, i'll put mine in my description as well...

I'm only Gming the one game.
No other Gm has allowed me in their RP.

This makes sexual harassment panda sad...

heheheh! SP quotes in a DH forum..
might be the reason for being disallowed in a game though

What in the seven heavens is being "disallowed" in a game?
I'm thinking along the line of being booted?

meh, you know what i mean...

I get you, my bad. I'd misread your previous post.

And there's a SP quote for any situation.
:)

yeah, damn right!

.. except for this once, cuz i can't come up with one...

anyway, back to topic!

Hey Furry Teddy, thanks for putting up those NPC banks. I'm kind of in the middle of figuring which system I'm going to run, which would naturally mean it would be a bad idea to post my NPCs, but I should get around to filling up one of them soon.

Just so you didn't think I was blowing you off or anything.

30 minutes until you can download the Dawn of War 2 Open Multiplayer Beta. Thought I would let everyone know -Grins-

We've been bumped so hopefully a few more users will start coming in.

I'm thinking of changing the forum rating to mature. After all the DH and WFRP settings are dark and disturbing places and I think the thread's will start reflecting that.

Any objections? I don't think it requires an age check so all current users should be fine.

No frackin' objections here boss=:)

Giving this a Mature rating will surely stop some people from being able to post. Seems unnecessary to put an age restriction up.

There's no automatic age restriction on a Mature rating, only an Adult one.

Hi folks! I am new to the forum. Thanks for having me Furry.

I've been a GW player since the early nineties with my first love being WHQ followed swiftly by everything else GW related.

I've had a quick look round and there seems to be a nice group of players gathering here. I look forward to getting stuck in.

Welcome Fearsome Engine let the Emperor take your soul, and I will valet your car!

"Car was found to contain sweeties.
Sweeties are the path to chaos.
Your car was destroyed and so were you after a lengthy torture session."

Ah, the days of the inquisition...

Inquisitor1:"Your neighbour's dog's former owner's cousin saw a report about a chaos infestation. Therefore, you're considered tainted"
*BLAM, BLAM*
inquisitor2: "well, i can't say you aren't thorough, but was it really neccesary to kill the dog as well?"

Frankly I'm suprised there is anyone left in the imperial armies. I swear they are the definition of genocide.

not to mention Xenophobia. if something looks different, they'll yell either alien, mutant or heretic, before shooting it

*Flippant comment*
With birth control having been declared hertical a certain level of 'heretics' are needed to be found every year to keep the worlds from overcrowding.

Not true, ever seen an Ogryn or a Ratling?

In reply to Tullyandy (msg #36):

Well one could always quote old uncle stalin. But i guess everyone already know the quote....

Don't forget Squats=:)  Even though GW has.

In reply to flakk (msg #41):

I tought they where eaten by a teleporting hive fleet ;)

Thats what GW wants you to think. :D

I'm sad.  It looks like the battle bunker here in my town has closed down...

aaaww
i feel your pain, man. I had to change shops too, when my local store closed.. good memories.

I just bumped the game add but if you could advertise in games that you GM and play in then that would be good to. We've had a bit of a lull in the new users this week.

I would, but I've weeded out those players that don't post.
Well, more or less.

I have to see if I have time for more games or not and if games that are on the brink of death survive

Feel free to advertise in any of my games.

The survival of a game relies a hell of alot more on the players than the Gm, I'm finding. I've been keeping tabs on "WFRP 2e: Doomstones" which has some fantastic players in it.

Kudos to whoever is playing in that game.

Yup.  I think it is really funny that in the  "RPOL Character Vault" there was a lengthy vent about GM's.  When I brought up that characters are just as important I was ignored and several of the members ranted about GM's at length.

No players and the GM might as well write a book on their own.

Yeah, i agree that the doomstones game is shaping up nicely. Well done to everyone playing in that game.

I'm definately going to have to throw in my congratulations to the Doomstones game, it has really taken off. Good job all around on that board!

Indeed, games are much more dependant on players than the GM. Of course a good GM is needed for a game, but if players are, say one-line posters or absent, the game falls flat on it's face.

example: in my game, most players are really motivated to keep playing, and this keeps the game going. If they weren't it would've died weeks ago.

I posted a link to this site in the GM's wanted thread and got banned.  A quick apology and I am back but please be aware that you cannot advertise, or offer a helpful link, in the GM thread unless you are offering to GM=:)

Ouch, banning seems a tad harsh.
Luckily, in my game "Welmarcht Court" all the players who are unreliable have been weeded out and I'm left with some fantastic PC's, though next time I host a game by Pbp I'm definetly going to check the commitment levels of the PC's in previous games.

What game is it you're running Valthek?

In reply to Tullyandy (msg #50):

Yea the Doomstones game is great. It has a brilliant GM.

DH for dummies

it's a game aimed at newer players, a bit on the light side, rule-wise, but i try to keep the story as interesting as possible, as is evident by the lastest plot twist. (the people they thought were the good guys turn out not to be.. or are they..)

link to another game
This message was last edited by the player at 17:17, Thu 05 Feb 2009.

I'm having a blast in Wemarcht=:)

Also having a blast in DH for Dummies.  My character is sooooo torn right now.

mwhuhahahah. that means i'm doing my job right :D

A house rules thread would be useful. Place to put up links to your awesome cool house rules.

Look under rules discussions. I know flakk has put his house rules there.

More questions as I prep for the WFRP Game that I am thinking of running: does anyone know what the optimum file size is for postings pictures in rpol games? I've got some massively detailed ~100 Mb empire maps which I am intending to downsize to use in my game, any idea as to the filesize I should aim for?

Hmmmmmm....not sure but I did find out that if you put too many pics in the same thread it will not let you edit it.

Anything super detailed would probably be better off as a link.

You're better off putting it as an imagine in a "Maps" thread. I'm assuming you're using the maps that are found on http://www.windsofchaos.com/?page_id=24.

Yeah, sort of... i've sewn them together to form one mega-map of the Empire then I want to use small sections of the map with my own annotations as game/chapter maps. I was just wondering what size i could get away with? I was thinking << 1 Mb?

"100 kilobytes (102400 bytes) or less."

Straight from the horses mouth. I tried using them as a game map, but it was way too big. I suppose you could compress them, but chances are they lose lots of their detail.

Simpler to make a maps thread, where as far as I'm away there are no limits to the size of your goods.

Thanks for the advice Tullyandy. While we are on the topic does anyone know a good site to use to host pictures to be posted here?

Flickr and Photobucket seem to be the popular ones.  I've used Flickr before to hold game maps, and for the most part it worked pretty well.

Gone till Friday 20th February.

Here is a player survey that you can give your players if you like.  If you don't like feedback then please ignore it=:(

1. On a scale of 1-10 (10 being best), how much fun are you having in general? ___

2. When you just thought "the game is fun except for 'this'", what was
"this" that sprung to mind?

3. Using a total of ten points, please give me your ideal proportion of role-playing vs. combat vs. puzzle/problem solving. (For example, I'd say that in general I try to make the campaign role playing 5, combat 3, puzzle/problem solving 2.)

__ role playing
__ combat
__ puzzle solving


4. Is the general pace of each session too fast, about right, or too
slow? If too slow, what do you suggest I do to pick up the pace without pushing or railroading?

5. Are you getting bored with the current plot arc? If so, what in
particular is getting tedious?

6. Are you getting enough role-playing encounters? More specifically, are you getting the kind of role-playing encounters you prefer? (I refer to personalities of NPCs, roles of NPCs, etc.) Outside of wearing silly little outfits - well, sillier - what can I do to improve role-playing encounters?

7. Should I award XP more often? Is your rate of level gain(roughly every 10-12 sessions) about right?

8. Do you want more handouts and the like? More maps?

9. Are you getting enough attention paid to your character plot-wise? It would be great if you could suggest some additional plot hooks for your PC.

10. Are you getting enough attention paid to YOU when we game? It's a relatively big group, and I try to spread my attention equally. If I'm not doing so, please make sure you tell me.

11. Is the general pace of combat too slow? If so, what can I do to speed it up?

12. Is the variety of combat encounters okay? What kind of beasties would you like to run in to?

13. Is the danger level of combat encounters okay? Would you like to see more hard, moderate or easy combats?

14. What do you like the least about the campaign? what one thing would you change if you could? What one thing can I change to make myself a better DM?

15. What do you like the most about the campaign?

16. Do you feel your character is on an equitable power level with the rest of the party? Do you feel effective? If not, what in particular needs beefing up?

17. Is there anything you want to change about your character, either personality-wise or role-in-the-group-wise?

18. What do you think about the magic item level for both you and the group as a whole - too low, about right, or too many? Any particular magic items/effects you're drooling to get?

19. Do you like logic puzzles, such as riddles and sneaky traps? How about prophecies that you have to figure out? How about figuring out what your enemies are up to? What other "puzzle/problem" things would you like to see in the game?

20. Do we play often enough? About right? Too often?

21. What question should I have asked that I didn't?

*Yoink*

Consider this stolen :D

Steal away and glad it is going to good use.

I'm possibly going to be looking for mods to help me out in the forum. PM me if interested.

Ran across this today:

http://new.fantasyflightgames....minisite.asp?eidm=78

Rogue Trader RPG from Fantasy Flight.  Compatible with DH and includes rules for crossing the two games.

One of the things DH is lacking is vehicle/space combat rules.  I hope RT will delve into this.

There was a downloadable document called-
DH Apocrypha_Vehicles
"This Apocrypha presents rules for using vehicles and mounts in games of Dark Heresy."

It has vehicle rules (but no space combat).

Rogue Trader will rock!

All Hail the arrival of Rogue Trader!! I have been waiting for something like this to drop, I always loved the back-stabbing slick-tongued voodoo economic struggles that takes place in DH, and this game would put players right into the lap of it.

It'll be interesting to see which inspires more zealotry: Loyalty to the Emperor or Loyalty to the Bottom Line?

I am also psyched for RT!

I'm glad Fantasy Flight is really taking the ball and running with it. Now if we can get a game for WFRP revolved around the Man o' War spinoff, all my childhood dreams would be fulfilled.

From the spolier text, it looks like the game might run a bit differently than DH. Rather than a GM-controlled Inquisitor (who understanably has planet-shaking power) with a group of PCs, this game looks to be one PC led by others. If that's the case, when RT takes root here, it will most likely require a well-established/reliable PC to really get the game going.

All you fellow GMs get ready to start taking notes...

Hey guys it's nice to see a few of you spreading word about the forum. However it is technically against Rpol rules to reply with a link to this site in the GM wanted thread as you do not GM this forum and it may not fit with what the user is asking for.

Just a heads up as I believe the mods have already had words with a couple of you over this.

Happy 500!  May your bolter always be full and your mail thick!

"And there was much rejoice....."

"weeeh"

For anyone who is on Facecrack...I mean Facebook-

RPoL on Facebook
-Pretty quiet group that was just abandoned and taken over by your's truly.

Oh noes! The Doomstones game hath ended!
A shame really, some fantastic RPing there.

Where you in that game as well? It was damn good. I'm just glad we've now got squid in the forum.

Yeah I wish it had gone further :(  When I get some more time though I'd love to give it another crack!

I wasn't in it, but had been watching it for awhile.
Seemed a good game.

I was in it- Gaston.  Interesting playing a guy for the first time!

Welcome aboard to all the new arrivals.  If you put a description of your "character" with what games you are playing in that might be fun=:)

I gotta lay off the amasec.. is it me or did the forum double in size,? Well played furry, well played.

Chaos is ever changing...

Amasec?  I've googled it as some sort of air pillow.  So confused.  :(

Amasec is an aunknown kind of alcholic drink in the 40th millenium
From the situations it is brought up i would like it with wine

actually, I think Amasec is distilled wine.  So it's more like Brandy or Cognac.

i thought it was more like their equivalent of beer?

Absinthe?

I still have a bottle left.  My 6 months in Prague were enough Absinthe wise....nasty stuff but to quote Dave Chappelle-

"It'll get yah drunk!"

Nah not beer
Its moslty mentioned with higher ups and rich people
You got more dirty names when the common people speak of booze

Ohhh, talks of liquor! I, myself, am a passionate Morgan man. Rum, in fact, is prevalent in any of the seagoing services.

red, red wine for me.

I'm with mitzi, although keep the merlot of my table and those damn kids of my lawn.  I must be getting old red wine and stealing kids baseballs, but amasec is most likely a distilled wine or absinthe like spirit, but you could also load up my pipe with some obsucra, a comfortable chair and I would be just fine with that and a good book, friends, fire or all of the above.

Crown Royal or Smirnoff for me please and do pass the pipe.  No bogarting please.

Hey, does anyone know a good website for warhammer art? I've had a look through WAR concept art but I'm really trying to find GW commissioned stuff or a great fan site.

I'm also looking for good pen and ink drawings of generic replay scenes

Hope these have what you're looking for, Fearsome!  Pinched these from jackdays' Links page ;)

Awesome illustrations on this site, but avoid the home page.  It seems to be broken:  http://www.adriansmith.co.uk/i...p;id=5&Itemid=53

Some piccies from the Warhammer TCG:  http://www.danscottart.com/Warhammer.html

Here's one for the old-timers:  http://www.geocities.com/griff10uk

These aren't official, but there's still some really nice pics:  http://www.grandmothersandfrogs.com/index.php

Some OWB pics:  http://www.pen-paper.net/artga...87d5fca63a1edabec957

Heaps of illustrations from the rulebook and supplements:  http://www.pen-paper.net/artgallery/PatLoboyko

Here's the guy who did the ToC and ToS covers, plus some GW novel covers:  http://www.ralphhorsley.co.uk

And some darker looking character portraits here:  http://www.pen-paper.net/artga...n/RikMartinWarhammer

Hope you find some stuff you can use!

Anybody thinking of starting a game up soon?  If not, I might have a go at it.  I've had an idea kicking around for awhile, and I put it down on paper today.  Needs some tweeks, but it could be good.

Well what sort of game are you looking for?

Well a DH game, obviously.

I don't know about the rest of you, but because of jobs/family/life in general/etc I don't have time for tabletop games anymore.  PbP games are the only way for me to get my fix anymore.

I'm already in one DH game, but I'd like to be in at least one more.

Well you could have been looking for a WFRP game. There are a few games that are looking for players that I know of but I can't provide the links so you would have to search.

I'm also looking at running the adventures from Purge the Unclean when I find the time but this might not be for a few weeks.

I'll keep my eyes open for your game FT.

I know that quite a few of us are gnashing our teeth for Rogue Trader to come out, once that book drops you will probably see quite a few of those games run through the boards.

I'm included in that group, as well.

I for one am stoked for Ascension for Dark Heresy. It looks like awesome.

Player wanted to take over the role of a former noble's daughter named Cilicia. She is currently in the entertainer profession, having fled from her father's estate in Talabheim after an accident with a stable boy that left him dead.

Currently has around 175 XP with no advances other than the basic +5% (which was included into her profile). Currently in a relationship with a apprentice in the group.

Her character is selfish and a tad naive, often falling in line behind what her lover, Xavier, wants. Often prepared to draw a sword to prove her point, but rarely does more than threaten at most. Prone to overacting and easily frightened.

Must be able to post AT LEAST ONCE A DAY. That's about the only requirement besides DECENT GRASP OF ENGLISH.
If anyone's interested, PM me and I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Cheers,
        Andy

EDIT: Ignore, post filled.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:32, Sat 28 Mar 2009.

Tully's game is fun so get in there! =:)

This seems to be the best introduction spot, so I thought I'd say hi. It's nice to see a spot dedicated to these two games (I'm fairly new to RPOL but not to online gaming, and I sometimes get that "Does anybody except me still play non-D&D stuff?" worry when planning games).

As you can probably tell I'm the type who prefers GMing. I've just completed my WFRP collection and I'm waiting for my Dark Heresy books to arrive. Once I've had a read through I'll be running one of the two games. Probably DH,  because I've run WFRP before and want to try something different. So if anyone's still looking for games, there should be a new one on the horizon in the not too distant future. :)

Just joined, so I thought I'd say hi. I'm running a DH and a WFRP game here and playing in a couple of each too. I see there was a suggestion a while back to put games you're GMing/Playing in in your description, so I've done that if anyone's interested.

Great to see there's such a good, supportive community developing for these games on rpol.

Just got back from playing my first game of table top since 3rd edition.  My Orks fought bravely against the hoards of Chaos but in the end my last 7 gretchin legged it of the board to fight another day.

Highlights-
My shokk attack gun (Mek Boy "Cooter") managed to kill 3 of my own mega-nobz.....then killed 3 Chaos termies.

My Warboss ("Flakk") charged in with his drinkin' buddies and crushed a Rhino, killing half the squad of berzerkers inside.  The counter charge killed Flakk but he took all the berzerkers with him.

His Daemon Prince charged in to my bike squad that managed to inflict 2/4 wounds on it....and despite my gretchin and boys best efforts none of them could get by his armour save despite at least a dozen hits.

Fun game!

That is my favorite thing about gaming Orkz...they die so spectacularly that you can't help but cackle with glee as you pull figures off the board! I played Space Wolves a few times, and every figurine I lost felt like I was burying my closest friend...

Although I do miss starting the battle off to Led Zeppelin's "The Immigrant Song"

If we dies we's dead so it don't count as defeat=:)  If we leg it we can fight another day so that ain't defeat either.

This is probably way too soon for asking for help or Co-GM's that is why it is in the forum, it was slightly debated in the early goings on of the Forum.  Although now it is 400 percent larger so what the hell.  I am bound and determined to create a sort of living game.

The system is WHFRP, the idea is an old one that has had mostly negative response, which I enjoy better than "Great Idea Let Me Know When It Is Running".  The game is more stressing the dynamics of rPol than actual pathos and ethos.  The "Idea", is to keep a game running faster than any other game on rPol, impossible? Well that is up to you.  The whole idea is somewhat basic it is to have a GM to PC ratio at at minimum of a 2:1, why? So that post's by PC's will be responded to extremely quickly, maybe increasing serious gamer that post once a day, up to three or more posts a day.  Time consuming, yes at the beginning but I am patient and could spend the rest of my life creating a game, instead of waiting for the Psyker or astray halfling to respond every other day.

How would this be possible.  First of all the game is called Mordheim, based on the skirmish game.  The damned city in the Empire that takes place 500 plus years in the past of "present" WHFRP games.  For those who have no idea about Mordheim it was a city that turned to Roman like debauchery in the waiting of the Second Coming of Sigmar in the year 1999.  The city became huge as it was to be the center of a new age, awaiting the year 2000.  Most people fell into dark practices bringing huge amounts of the Ruinous Powers, also Skaven took solid hold of the city, as well as every shady character possible.  Instead of Sigmar returning it was a large comet of Warpstone that destroyed the city for the most part.  Creating a huge city that was in a sense nuked.  Eventually it became the source of treasure hunters and scavengers. Quickly everyone figured out that Mordheim had become too dangerous to search through alone, and thus warbands came together and began to seek out everything from gravedigging to searching out lost artifacts.  I could go on forever but this is just a forum.  The warbands are the seedlings of the game.

So the heart of the idea is to have each Co-Gm to run one of the Ruinous powers, plus Undead and any other dark powers that a GM can come up with.  I then divide the city up into a gang like structure, a mini Compton (sorry L.A.ites) or the Tenderloin for those in the Bay Area.  I would also have a huge span of GMT's.  The more Gm's the better because another plus is the idea of having your "warband", gang, army skirmish with other GM's as each struggles for more territory.  The PC's would be run by a couple GM's or all of them.  The default enemy is Skaven, so each GM could respond to PC posts.  The huge problem is how to create a "bible" of rules characters and plot points, but that is not impossible.  The reason why is this, making the real problem the answer.  Creating the city of Mordheim up like it was a video game, with pre-fabricated scenarios for GM's to sling at PC's.  This would involve tons of work I understand, but there are some great players here in the forum and it is just something to throw out there.  I know this is extremely long and not very post friendly, but I find the Project Mordheim a possible outlet for all in the forum to come up with anything that pops up in there head and I truly respect and cherish the responses I receive on this forum.  I despise praise and love criticism even if it is not constructing it can be very motivating.

Thank you all for your time,
Those that read the entire post,
Regards and a heart-felt thanks,
Yr.Obd.Srvnt.
Z
This message was last edited by the player at 08:30, Tue 14 Apr 2009.

Dibs on the Dark Carnival!
I found this too: http://www.mordheimer.com/down...sources/mordheim.jpg
This message was last edited by the player at 15:54, Tue 14 Apr 2009.

In reply to coderodent (msg #125):

Yeah there is a ton of good stuff at http://www.mordheimer.com/index.htm

mordeheimer centre I even a conversion chart from WHFRP to skirmish which if you just use in reverse you can get excellent statistics for all Wahammer table top pieces, WHFRP has so many fansites it is ridiculous even 6 something PDFs on the Cuisine of the Old World rolling charts depending on where you are in Franz's kingdom including my favorite the low grade chart of boiled dog and a dollop of lard.

So I think it's a good idea, the draw back is that it seems like Mordheim has a lot more variety of good guy teams that are stat'ed. But if you have different groups of undead, scaven, chaos, then you could have more GM controlled gangs.

What would the Players drive? Single characters? or teams?

Sounds like quite the meaty undertaking! I really do not have much time to invest into the game, but I would be interested to see how the concept took off. It seems like it would be a lot of start-up work...

FYI Furry Teddy has left and put me in charge.  Any requests, comments or glowing praise please send it my way and I'll think about it/ignore it/take it under consideration.

Seriously this is an awesome tool and I hope it grows and grows!  Have fun and play nice and please spread the word.

Just about to put in a similar post. I can't keep up with posting on Rpol at the moment so it seems only decent that I should appoint another GM. I asked flakk as he has been the most influential user to date and he has agreed to fill my shoes. I'll still be lurking around and look forward to gaming with you all in the future.

Hail to the new GM; Flakk!

Great choice Furry, I can think of know more capable hands than Flakk!

I'll certainly try my best to fill those big furry shoes.....it will be hard.

Furry did a good job of letting us pretty much have free reign, and most of these threads were initiated with your input, so I think everyone can rest assured knowing that the grim-dark future will be safe...from anything other than flamer weapons, Alien hordes, and the chainsword, of course.

That is another plus and negative of the dynamic's, HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU KEEP TABS ON ALL THIS.  Groups, Individuals or even large warbands could play.  The game isn't set up as a campaign, but more extremely long scenerio.  I would be open to anything, but I had the idea of other WHFRP games up and running end up visiting the city.  It would be like a vacation for GM's across rPol, RL slowing or ending games, no longer!, just send them over to Mordheim we will keep them busy.  Already made characters are open as well, have a favorite character sheet collecting dust, send them to M-towm.

Also if Teddy allows it, open a thread for Mordheim on the forum, that seems a bit aloof and unfair to other GM's, but Mordheim is not "my" game, I just wanted a game that moved faster, because mainly my gaming group in RL just fell apart and I am tired of driving down to Seattle, spending more time in my car than time rolling dice.  There are a few people on the forum that would most likely vouch for me that I can post a hell of a lot per day.  So if there was a thread, it would be a good place to draw in new players to the forum and a opportunity to have other gamers get together and form their own warbands.  But then the negative, keeping tabs on all the PC's running around the town, let alone GM's in skirmishes with each other.  The answer first lies in creating a bible, after enough GM's who are serious about the deal would open up dialouge and create as White Wolf does for each system, make a "bible", essentially a story line that all could agree on, house rules, supplements allowed, etc...

I really only need five Co-Gm's to start, with myself that is six to start.  The four powers of chaos and the undead, and I already have reserved a spot for Slaanesh.  So there are really only four spots needed to be filled.  But this game is far from even being close to starting, I was just looking right now for feedback, mostly negative or "constructive" criticism or questions that you have posed to make a better mousetrap.  The fun part for GM's is I hope it gets to a point where their are about ten GM's and 5 warbands of PC's, because I really wanted to let each GM run their group at their own pace.  All my job is to act out posts in role-play, problem solving, descriptions, map-making, moderate and a little combat, but I rather have one GM running combat for his or her army or things would obviously get out of hand.  Lots of problems but I look at them as opportunities.

Thanks for the interest rmail me anytime or just keep the topic moving around maybe it will become big enough for its own thread maybe not, I don't really care one day the game will be running, even if I have to GM everything myself.

Several new arrivals the last few days.  Welcome one and all and don't be shy!

Aye Welcome to our (usually) calm piece of the Internets

Jebus Christmas! 62 members, and I am not even last on the list anymore,  we need matching smoking jackets now!  With flakk in charge we are assured a good greenskin life and death. All Nobz praze da WarBosz flakk! flakk! flakk! lets go boyz!

Oh manthing poo I misplaced my attack squig hold on I'll be right back.  I had this horrible dream of an ork mating with a rat ogre, it looked like Golda Meier.  Welcome new and old, and three cheers to a new regime, Furry may be gone but he will always be revered, I'm working on a 12 foot macaroni statue of are creator I hope it pleases him.  Now who are we supposed to shoot flakk?

I vote for shooting at the worshipers of the Ruinous Powers....since they killed so many of my Orks....Cooter the Mek boy, Captain Flakk the Warboss.....even Shouter the Runtherd=:(

OI!

i resent that

how about we shoot some 'umies?

"Oi!  Dem Chaos huggers is just 'umies that took ta re-lee-jun.  Dem both is da same...'cept some of the 'umies are harder than the others.  Dem Space Cans is da tuffest of the 'umies, but we Orks is the tuffest!"

5000 posts!  My DH game just hit 5000 and here's to many more.

Is Mr. Sticks in any of your games?  He has gone MIA in mine and I hope that he is okay.

In the spirit of spirits day, I am stealing a terrible blog idea from Topless Robot 10 best Super-Heros to get drunk with, with a Warhammer Fantasy & Dark Heresy twist, which character or NPC would you like to share a pint with at the local ale house with or adult liquid of your choice. Thank Jebus it is not Thursday anymore.

Today I would have to go with Irish-Car-Bombs with Gotrek or Shots of Hornitos with a Demonette of Slannesh, can I degrade this forum anymore than I already have, most likely yes, but I will leave it with that until I start watching the clock and it begins counting backward.  And please don't let me end up with a Nurgling in the morning.  Blessed be and Forges Warm.

I think I'd prefer to do jager-bombs with Felix as I'd probably get too drunk and ask Gotrek what his crime was and end up missing a limb or three.....

Jagermeister with the Tsarina ofcourse!
Who else can keep it perfectly chilled

So lately I've been toying with a couple programs, and it looks like it'd be possible to pull off an online wargame. (Warhammer, 40k, Warmachine, Hordes, etc)

Would anyone else who is geographically or otherwise isolated from any potential players be interested in this?

Pardon me if anything I'm saying is old hat. I searched this forum, but couldn't find anything about it.

It may not be swine-flu, but it is a book lover's pandemic with FF Dark Heresy binding and materials.  Every single forum I have been on, especially FF have tons of complaints of warping hard cover's and glue coming undone, half my library is already infected and I treat them better than infants.

Strange there is no correlation of printing editions or where books are bought from the main complaint which is taking over my books is a outward bending of the the cover and back, caused by cheap materials lying beneath awesome Clint Langley art.  Black Industries soft covers are much better if you can find them or wait for them to come out, not to mention cheaper.  GW does it again! Another way to piss of customers with 99 percent awesome and flawless design marred by one percent penny pinching, jebus christmas.

DuelingBlue. I am kinda in the same situation, though depending on the mention of programs, I am thinking that smaller scale games would work better then larger ones (specifically 40k of those mentioned). But either way I would be interested with whatever games you are seeking to play.

Several new arrivals so welcome.

-If anyone wants a thread made up dedicated to the table top games let me know and I'll wave my magic wand.

One of those would be me.

So, hi :)

Primarily joined up to look for a game (WFRP) to join for me and a friend of mine (we live in different areas and wanted to play in a game together), though there seems to be a lot going on in here.

As a matter of fact, I'd also be interested in playing a board-game online -also 40k for my part. But I don't thinkg points size has much to say online - it's mostly movement and dice rolling that takes time on the table - all more easily done with a program I would guess?

Right now, I'm looking at using maptools, which can be found at rptools.net. It's designed for use in online tabletop, but it should work for our purposes. It's a chatroom, dice roller, and a map with miniature support.

@ Flakk. Might take you up on that, depending on the interest this gets, and if it is actually viable or not. I'd hate to start a subforum only to see it die.

Any volunteers to help me test one day?

I will be happy to help you test Blue, have wanted to try out Warmachine/Horde since it's alittle smaller in scale.

With all the talk of table-top games and board games, yes you too can play pretty well paced board games on rPol too.  Any one interested in Talisman I would be happy to GM one before the new Dungeons arrives and the board moves around my town faster than crack.  Hope a table top group starts up, good luck brave ones, kill them all without regard for mercy, God should still remember their names.  If you get one started Mos-Def going to need a thread.


I was taking a count on if this bunch started a Ruinous Powers game all four fighting each other in Ostermark or somewhere remote, which Power would you go by?

What demons make YOU a believer?
This message was last edited by the player at 19:14, Thu 07 May 2009.

As I can't find anywhere else to say hello, I will do it here.

Hi, Im David, I'm a GW vet, DH player and now after a bit of effort a GM and a WFRP player. I am currently trying to save/destroy the Imperium (have yet to make up my mind) in RevMark's DH game and aid the noble people of Brettonia in his WFRP game.

And re-reading what I just wrote makes me think I've just started group therapy.

Anyway I'm going to hang out in the DH threads and moan about I mean contructively discuss a wide variety of 40K related topics although I will frequently stick my head into the WFRP ones as well.

Welcome aboard to you and all the other recent arrivals.  Don't be shy and no need to leave the toilet seat down or wipe your feet.  No-one else does=:)

We have a long weekend here (Monday) so play nice while "dad" is gone.  He forgot to lock the liquor cabinet and block all the naughty channels so enjoy.

Hey maybe with the long weekend I'll actually get some painting done.....probably not but I can dream can't I?

So that's what the Reserve Company commanders get up to when they are left at home by Big Papa Smurf.

That is a very cool model.

That is disturbing and grand all the while though.... something amiss..... chaos stirs...... in a 1932 circa photoshopped radio?  The "Ruinous Powers of Rag-Time" BEWARE SERVANTS OF THE EMPEROR "LAST STOP TO POTTERSVILLE IS COMING ON NEXT!!!"

Does anyone know when the Haarlock legacy ships or is finally and truly released?

Since i am holding a copy of tattered fates, i say it did

do you live in the US?

Nope, good ol Sweden. Had my shipped from the UK
Cant see why it should not be able in the US unless you rely on Amazon that is.....
Amazon as far as i know have never shipped anything on release when it comes to Dark heresy books....

See I live in Germany- been waitin on Tattered Fates.
Preordered on Amazon, hope they get it doen one of these days.

My tip is to cancel the order and just order from here
http://www.leisuregames.com/
You'l have it in 2-3 days

I was on the F site yesterday and thinking about ordering a copy of "Tattered Fates" through them (since my two local shops don't normally stock DH stuff) and was surprised that to ship to Canada it was $22!  Needless to say I did not bother.  I can get it on ebay for much cheaper than that.

Amazon....they failed me with "Creatures".  No more love for them.

2-3 days even to germany?

Thats what it takes them to ship within most of Europe

Hmmmm, not sure where to put this so I guess the forum chat is as good as a place as any.  Check this out-

http://www.fantasyflightgames....ge_news.asp?eidn=573

A Warhammer boardgame!
Play as a Chaos god!

Chaos in the Old World is coming, are you ready?

Chaos in the Old World includes:

    * 1 Rulebook
    * 1 Game Board
    * 45 High-quality, fully detailed plastic playing pieces
    * 4 Threat Dials
    * 4 Power Sheets
    * More than 175 Tokens
    * Over 125 Cards
    * 5 Dice



Cool stuff!

I am so putting that on my birthday list. That sounds pretty cool. Is it already out?

Dont seem to be out
But heck it looks cool

The Fall suddenly got a lot cooler.  Speaking of which I have a week off in August and am heading to Iceland.  Anyone have any experience traveling/living there?

Several new arrivals this week.  Welcome aboard and don't be shy.

Message moved to more appropriate thread.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:37, Mon 01 June 2009.

On a more serious note-

From the CBC news website

1.1 million Canadians served in WWII, including 106,000 in the Royal Canadian Navy and 200,000 in the Royal Canadian Air Force

# 42,042 killed
# 54,414 wounded

14,000 Canadians landed on D-Day

450 jumped by parachute or landed by glider

10,000 sailors of the RCN were involved

# 340 killed
# 574 wounded
# 47 taken prisoner


During the first six days of the Normandy campaign, 1,017 Canadians died.


By the end of the Normandy campaign, about 5,020 Canadians had been killed. About 5,400 Canadians are buried in Normandy.

In the two and a half months of the Normandy campaign, Allied casualities (killed, wounded and captured) totalled 210,000.

Canadian casualties totalled more than 18,000, including more than 5,000 dead. German casualties were 450,000.




I will let someone else cover the contributions of the other countries.
-Bombardier (former) Harding, 89th Field Battery

In the Normandy landings, representatives of dozens of foreign countries against the Third Reich were present; English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, French, Polish, American, Canadian, Hungarian, Dutch, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, Russian, South African, Greek, Serbian, Bosnian, Mexican, Inuit and German to name some.

Faced with the bombardment and firing of the machine guns, there are few ways for us to experience their terror. Therefore, we can only respect and thank those men who fought and fell to make the world a safer place.


The Commando Memorial
By Archie MacLellan

The sun shone down upon the snow
Atop Aonach and the Ben,
As in the shadows there trained below
A finest group of fighting men,
None braver lived is to be said
Honour flowed throughout their veins,
Freedom bred, Lord Lovat led
Their lives to stop dictators' gains.

They gave it their all for the nation they served
Their courage maintained foreign parts,
A Memorial stands proud down in Spean
Let us all build one more in our hearts.

With command for to land on the shore at Sword Beach
On the Sixth Day of June Forty Four,
A place in our history was now within reach
The Piper to take them ashore,
Though danger around him, The Piper gave stand
He stuck to his task without care,
His march unrepentant, as if claiming the land
As ‘Road To The Isles’ filled the air.
Battle ferocious, the enemy strong
Sweat mixed with sand mixed with mud,
Young men unrelenting though battle was long
The water still flows with their blood.

They gave it their all for the nation they served
Their courage maintained foreign parts,
A Memorial stands proud down in Spean
Let us all build one more in our hearts.

Perished did men still young in their years
The land of our birth lost Her Sons,
But liveth they on in Remembrance tears
Liveth on how they silenced the guns,
Lest we forget the Sacrifice
In our Bloody Wars were made,
That Sacrifice that takes us here
Can never be repaid.

They gave it their all for the nation they served
Their courage maintained foreign parts,
A Memorial stands proud down in Spean
Let us all build one more in our hearts.

Happy 1000 posts!

Good to see we reached 1000 posts. Congratulations to flakk for keeping things going.

Thanks.  It pretty much runs itself:)

Happy Canada Day!

A lot of good meat, discussion, rule clarification, news on new releases, the list goes on ad naseum, thanks flakk and furry RPol needed this obviously as it is good for an Imperial Soul to be able to find his play by post brethren.  We thank the all seeing eye of the Emperor for a fine day for Canada!

Well Canada Day is all done....so happy 4th to the US players here!

*Grumbles something about traitors to the crown*

:)

It is unfortunate that the American war of Independence has tended to reinforce negative images of George III which have made it hard to really appreciate one of our more capable and benevolent monarchs...

Welcome aboard to all the new arrivals!

Hi people!
I'm the GM for Ordo Hereticus: Warhammer 40k rp.
Joined this board for some conversation, player head hunting and general poo throwing.  Cause poo throwing flying monkies are the scourge of the universe, and I like to hug them.

Ok it's early in the morning, and my brain isnt working.  But YAY!

Hey all. I primarily play WFRP, which sucks because there are so few games!

well I have the book, but I have never read it. A friend gave it to me as he ordered 2 copies by accident from Amazon. Hey we were overseas and he has memory problems. Yet I have never found a group to play it. Nor do I understand the carreer paths that well.

The career paths are one of the best parts of the game. Feel free to yell if yah need any help figuring them out=:)
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:26, Mon 03 Aug 2009.

The Senior Cardinal bows his head at the mentioning of the blessed Career Paths.  "Forges warm".

S.C.I.

This Saturday at 20.00 hours GMT Dark Reign welcomes Ross Watson, game developer for the Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader roleplaying games, in the Dark Reign Chat room. Join us on Saturday on our IRC channel to ask Ross everything you wanted to know about roleplaying in the grim and dark future, the upcoming Rogue Trader game, working for Fantasy Flight Publishing, what's happening at Gencon and more.

The D6 Generation podcast had a nice long chat with the 40k RPG Czar this week. If you want to avoid asking Ross the same questions twice than I advise you to listen to the podcast. The interview begins at the 1hr 24 min mark in the show.

Link: http://www.thed6generation.com...x.php?post_id=511307

See you Saturday!

See thread at: http://darkreign40k.com/forum/index.php?topic=2504.0

In reply to flakk (msg #190):

Love the career path, no real power gaming here.  Plus it's bonus when you are playing with a Rat Catcher, etc. ;)

Well my problem here is that most people do not like the DH or WHFRP system, they hate filling like weaklings. And those players I do find treat it more like D&D and want the FAT LOOTZ...Shame I had to kill them off for being idiots...

Yeah the WHFRP/DH/CoC feeling where you for most part play as *gasp* "ordinary" people can sometimes be hard to grasp for people being used to heal up in a second, slay dragons and recive rewards of thousands of gold (my players cried when they recived a 100 as a group ;) )

But just give it some time, adjust the playing ins teps and they will see the fun in it.

I tried, and no matter how much I told them about the grim and dark setting, they just couldnt get it. Most wanted to play SPace marines or eldar banshees. And the one group that I am in that are great RPers, they just dont like the percentage roll under system.

I will be in Iceland from the 16th-22nd so I might not be able to check in from the 15th-23rd.  I'm not even taking my laptop with me so checking in might not be an option. I'm going of the grid=:)  Donp;t burn down the house while I'm gone.

The Senior Cardinal blesses all on the forum on the day of living saints for soon Rouge Trader will arrive.  I for one can not believe the impatience shown by gamers, it will get here when it gets here.  Patience is a virtue and anticipation is the lure of Slaanesh be wary.

This got the Conclave to thinking, we are betting that all most every member of the forum will be playing RT.  This will have a huge ripple effect on the Forum, PCs, GMs and most importantly "our" games.  All games are going to slow down, for sure.  How many of you have a entire campaign ready or a PC already painted in oil on a eight foot canvas in your gaming hall.

This is just a thought of flight and fantasy (pun intended) but is any one aware of the gaming group for STAR WARS *the Senior Cardinal makes the sign of the aquila*.  Well simply they built a group of gamers all under three core GM's covering the major sections of ST.

RT would not even need that maybe one or two and the games are not connected completely it just allowed players to match up with the right GM and the right GM with the right players.  Some GM's combined their games or you could jump around, it was up to the GM.  The Core GM's were basically just monitors.

Not that it is necessary to build an entire new forum, but players and GM's might want to start throwing out what they want and what they got.  Anyway a post-it post.  See you where X marks the spot in the Warp.

Regards,
Yr.Obd.Srvnt.
S.C.I.

Loads of new arrivals lately so welcome aboard!  Don't be shy and please take your shoes off before you come in.

No not the shoes flakk!!!! I may have a foot odor problem, corns of Khorne.  I will finally be exposed.  Welcome forum members let the Emperor guide your light and lead.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:44, Thu 03 Sept 2009.

WAAAGH!

Another appearance of Kanyee.....

That is awesome :0).

Anybody got any info on when the Radical's Handbook is coming out?

Happy Thanksgiving weekend:)!

Thanksgiving aint till November...OH wait other countries have thanksgiving?

;)

Not sure but the upcoming adventure contest has Radicals as the theme and the book as the prize.

LOL.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp

I can't believe that sort of stuff is still in circulation. I got my fill of it when I was in my church youth group. Given the references to Paganism it's practically incitement to religious hatred...

It is pretty rediculous.  One reason I was pretty much asked to leave youth group
as a youngin was that I liked to play Dungeons and Dragons (and listen to heavy metal music).  I even remember my mother buying me a module and the lady workign at the bookstore started telling her off for it.  Mom defended me and told the lady off citing the game as one of the reasons I liked to read.

You should see how much Chick hates the jews.

He's not a convinced Zionist then? You amaze me...

I think I can guess what he thinks of Catholics though...

You cannot predict his insanity.



This message was last edited by the player at 15:52, Wed 14 Oct 2009.

I think he hates everyone.

Ever seen this version?

http://www.humpin.org/mst3kdd/

MST3K does Dark Dungeons. :)

When will people learn that DnD is not the root of all evil.

I don't actually know whats more upsetting, seeing trash that tells you pretending to be a wizard and rolling a die makes you a servant of the devil or that there are people in the world that actually beleive it.

<Sigh> Either my game is sucking or my players have gone into early hibernation.  </Sigh>

Oh well, after a crappy week of work it is almost the weekend and I can;t wait to bust out my Ricky costume (from the Trailer Park Boys)


Ricky is the one in the light blue shirt.
This message was last edited by the GM at 10:27, Fri 30 Oct 2009.

In reply to flakk (msg #216):

Know the feeling flakk, things do seem to have quietened down in all games I GM or play over the last few days for, maybe everyone is getting their Halloween costumes ready or something.

Hello all, I'm new. Mainly a WFRP player, but have been known to dabble in Dark Heresy...

Wouldn't that get you burned on the stake by a Witch Hunter...? ;)

Welcome on board :)

What they don't know won't hurt them.

Until it ambushes them with an interesting array of poisoned and tainted weapons. At which point it probably will.

Ironically enough my last tabletop character in WFRP got press ganged and turned into a witch hunter.

Press-ganged and turned into a witch hunter? That's like being mugged and given a licence to kill. Traditionally aren't you supposed to get press-ganged and turned into a galley slave or something?

Sounds like a case of Cursed with Awesome http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmw...in/CursedWithAwesome

Oh yeah, traditionally.

The game had a rogue, insane Witch Hunter NPC. After a lot of various derring do, this NPC died and a Witch Hunter had some questions for one of the party members about how it happened. Thinking he was in the shit, he decided to finger my character. Ironically, they decided my fictional actions had shown the right stuff and made me a Witch Hunter. A choice I wasn't given.

Very much cursed with awesome!

Welcome to all the new arrivals.

http://darkreign40k.com/forum/index.php?topic=3071.0

It's a sad day. F'ing GW.

If anyone has any ideas, I'd love to hear them.

In reply to MILLANDSON (msg #225):

Wow that sucks!  Wish I had some advice to offer.

I'm getting annoyed with Fantasy Flight games prices in other currencies than dollar. The Euro price is the same as dollar with only the dollar mark is chanegd to euro. A 50 dollar book is 50 Euro, it should be about 38 euro instead.

How much do FFG charge for shipping books to Europe? Does anyone know a cheap way to get these books(DH & WHFRP) shipped and delivered to Europe? I like the books, but I feel cheated.

Don't get me started on FFG pricing in the UK, they were happily allowing their distributers to charge £120 for the RT collectors edition.

One solution is to have friends and family live in America and get them to buy the stuff and hae them ship it to you. Which reminds me I have been meaning to find some friends in the US to order me a Patriots jersey for years, I think its time to rake out my address book.

It was 120€ here, but I managed to win a free upgrade. Costing only the price of the regular. I don't understand why they can't adjust the prices atleast a little according to the exchange rate.

I don't know who would buy me a copy in US and ship it here. Does anyone know a good internet site for buying DH books, preferably with christmas free shipping, but I gues most of those have expired.

EDIT: It seems that I can get my books with 34% discount from Amazon, cheaper than getting it directly from FFG
This message was last edited by the player at 11:46, Tue 22 Dec 2009.

While not in the Warhammer universe still a pretty cool pic.  I love propoganda.

Well maybe the Forum should be renamed Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader Forum
or
Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay and Warhammer 40 000 RPG Forum

or something like that...

Ask and yee shall receive.

Wickeeed ^^

Not Warhammer related but it may interest some.

Stolen from the community chat forum-

"I believe that this is genuine:

http://www.critical-hits.com/2...t-a-ton-of-rpg-pdfs/

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/...=78023&SRC=haiti

In summary DrivethruRPG are offering a load ($1,400 worth) of pdf games in return for a $20 payment that will all go to Doctors Without Borders (a charity involved in the Haiti disaster relief)."

Wow!  You certainly get a load of stuff for your donation.  The cut-out "minis" look interesting as does the Serenity game.

And it looks like so far they've raised almost $84,000. When I looked yesterday it was about $45,000. That's pretty good going.

Don't know if this has been posted yet or not, but thought I'd throw it out there:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Da...g/c/5620FA89B0F40706

Those crazy german bastards did it, they finally finished Damnatus: The Enemy Within and it's on Youtube.

PS: German with English subtitles, enjoy!

Welcome aboard to the many new arrivals.  Don't be shy- grab a pint, oil up your sword and load your bolters!

Hey-o! Thought I should join up since I've been shanghaied into running a Dark Heresy game with my live group after some of the guys shown some interest, not to mention having read the books already. To be honest I was surprised at how good the story and writing is in there, I just got the books for the fluff and some mechanics, played a few unsuccessful games, but this is going to be my first real try at a really long term game. Started the game three weeks ago and things seem to be fairly well, with a few 40K virgins that only really been exposed to what I like to call Warhammer 40Chan. Though to be honest, I think that might be the best way to get into it before they find what most of the officially published stuff is.

Anyone psyched for the Jonah Hex movie but secretly wish it was based on the Hex mini-series?=;)

The Olympic opening ceremonies last night was awesome!  Not a huge fan of the Olympics but since it is the winter ones I tend to watch and cheer a little bit more.  Go Canada!  Silver wishes go out to my former home of the Czech Republic and South Korea and heck I'll even extend some bronze wishes for some of the cool places I have been like Iceland and Romania.

The loss of a Georgia luger in a training accident was terrible and I can't imagine how his teamates, friends, family and countrymen are feeling.  I hope Nodar's comrades finish well and safely.

So how lethal do you think that a WFRP, DH and or RT game should be?

I am a mellow GameMaster and believe in letting the players have fun and see their character grow to a ripe old age. And unless they start doing stupid things, I don't kill them of by things like random damage or an insignificant fight against non key opponents. I don't believe in Players being just another bunch of red shirts.

Yes, they can die. Bad things do happen and that nassty looking Orc can have a lucky crit or the Psyker a really unlucky roll that makes him disappear with a sucking noise. But for those things you got FatePoints. My rule about them is simple. Burn one to avoid something nasty happening to you including a fight against impossible odds. Somehow most characters retire once they are out of them.

I am also very sparse with insanity and especially with mutations. Both most often mean that the character is finished and if they do happen then I consult with the player to see how we can use an insanity or mutation that allows the player to still play his character and have fun. Because in the end, fun is the most important part of the game.


So, what is your view about this?

I tend to have key points at which I think characters can die.  Usually this takes the form of "boss" fights and the culmination of adventures.  The mooks are there to wear them down ever so slightly to make the end game a real challenge and all the more exciting.

Gotta disagree with you on the mini-series flakk - I luved the old comic series Jonah Hex. I just hope they keep the same tone - Sergio Leone with a dash of supernatural.

*Looks around carefully to make sure none of his players are listening in*

Ok, Banjo, you just pretend you haven't heard this...

Basically, my rule of thumb is that players should always feel that the death of their character is a very real possibility. These systems are built with a very unforgiving set of mechanics. Combat is very lethal. Starting WFRP or DH characters will only succeed at things they are skilled at about a third of the time. You consider yourself to really 'be' someone when you get to 50 in a stat, but that means you fail half the time. Magic and Psychic Powers are as much of a curse as they are a blessing. All that is for a reason. This is supposed to be grim and dark. Heroes fighting against overwhelming odds, all of that stuff.

But.

The fact is that's not much fun really. It's no fun to die because of a dud climb roll. Or because thug #2 happens to get a fluke damage roll. These guys are the heroes of the story at the end of the day. Their lives and their deaths matter. To those of us playing the game if not to anyone in the game universe.

I don't think that characters shouldn't die. I think characters should die well, or at least in a manner that seems appropriate. Fate points are about making sure that they get to the point where they can do that. But sometimes fate points aren't enough. I will sometimes fudge things to make sure that deaths happen at a dramatically appropriate point. And I try to work with the player to make sure that their character dies the way they'd want them to - whether that means having the chance for some last words, saving innocents, or just spitting in the face of the biggest nastiest thing in the room.

I tend to avoid mutation when possible, because developing one tends to make a character unplayable. Some sort of insidious dark taint born of corruption, however, that's just grist to the mill. Similarly I dislike the WFRP insanity rules and like the DH ones because the WFRP rules tend to make characters unplayable. If insanity and corruption allow a player to show their character struggling to cope with the horrors of the struggle they have found themselves in, that's just great roleplaying material. If they mean your character stops being fun to play and will get burnt if you spend any time around normal people then I'm not in favour of them.

I like dark, gritty, deadly, dirty, mind-blasting, and mutation (concealable wherever possible) filled Warhammer/DH and RT.  Fate points are there to suck up the deathness, but it is inevitable.  Die a hero with statues made of you or alone in a backalley, it makes no difference in worlds where there is only warrrrrr!!!!!

-Wow, time for another smoke and fresh beer=:)

La-la-la I'm not listening.

Actually, I agree with RevMark. Although I wont kill someone for nothing at all I want them to be aware of their characters mortality.

This is especially difficult in Dark Heresey, where the premise of the entire game is you against the nastiest enemies of humanity. I think that players get caught up in their PC Glow and think they're immortal, they treat their player character status as somrthing that makes them immune to the world arround them, they have to learn that PC glow is not a magic shield, it wont protect them... although it has been known to turn a blind eye every now and then.

What makes it really hard is when players try to build a character that is noble and willing to sacrifice themselves for the good of the Imperium and Mum's Apple Pie but are then unwilling to lay it fully on the line when the time comes.

As a GM there is a lot of responsibility on you to make a game fun, you have to know when to push your players and when to let things slide. Players however should still be aware of what their characters are and need to understand the potential consequences of their actions.

Of course saying something and doing it are different things, my Commissar in RevMark's game is my longest lasting character, I would be lying if I said I have not grown attachted to him, but a long time ago I asked myself what is my character willing to do? I have accepted that I am playing a character that takes risks with his own life and is likely to one day get himself killed doing so. I like to think that I am ready for this eventuality, but of couse until that day comes we wont really know.

RevMark, please dont take this as some sort of indication that I want you to kill off Elan, I quite enjoy having him alive, his options are much less limited for one thing. I'm just pointing out I have accepted that he will one day die.

I've just read the four first Spacewolf books. The fourth, Wolfblade caught a certain interest. It would be interesting to play in the Dark Heresy or rogue trader setting. Instead of the usual mass combats of 40k you'd be a Wolfblade in the service of the Navigator house Belisarius. There are many reasons why a Spacewolf would be sent to be a Wolfblade. From learning political thinking, having a different way of thinking than the usual Spacewolf or having some flaws in the geneseed and many more reasons. What I understood there are about two squads under the Belisarian control, only a handfull 3-5 on Holy Terra. The rest are around the galaxy working as bodyguards, training troops and investigating. There would be more than shoot every Xenos or Heretic. There's room from intrigue, investigation and overall a more like the Dark Heresy missions.

I doubt the Spacewolves are the only ones who have made a pact with a specific Navigator house for transportation, but what I understood from the book they'd be the onlyones on Terra.

What would the stats be for a Space Marine?

I seem to remember there being an Adeptus Astartes in one of the modules....had Dark Eldar in it and a space hulk.....Purge the Unclean?  Played but did not run it.  The Spare Marine was kick ass!  They would make sick characters, but not much good beyond shooting and killing.

I gotta say that playing a space marine has never really appealed to me, so the Deathwatch game, if that's what they do next, doesn't interest me at all.

I've never found the fiction on the space marines to be particularly interesting either which is a shame as it's the majority.  They just don't seem to have much in the way of personality or emotion, and its these traits I find much more interesting.  I hope Black Library puts out some more Imperial society based stuff (like the Inquisition stories) as the actual proper humans are far more interesting. :)

This, this, and more this.

And let me add more of this. Space Marines do not appeal that much to me.

My group will surely give it a try and I must admit that I am curious what twist FFG will give the game to make it interesting. They did a fine job with RT after all.

Go Canada!

Its ok Flakk. For one day Americans will tell the Canadians to make their own Hokey League. For we all know that if they had to play for the country they made their living in.....most of the world wouldn't beable to play hokey as an Olympic sport.

Right like that will happen.  Judging by the post a little alcohol might be involved=:)

Welcome aboard to all the new arrivals.

Thanks for the welcome flakk!

Glad to have found a forum for similarly afflicted souls!

Yes thanks, an escape from the grim dark of realty to the grim dark of the imagination...

Flakk its ok. I will be happy so long as one thing happens in the NHL. The REd Wings Lose the Cup... Thats all I need and require.

LOL.  I don't follow the NHL but I will say a prayer to further the cause.  Suck it Wings!  Go....anyone else=:)

Thanks a bunch. Yay, horror!

Heya Cossyc!

Hello, everybody!  Just joined the Forums today...

Welcome mr. Parker. Make yourself comfortable.

Welcome to all the new arrivals=:)

Happy St. Paddy's day!
('Cos everyone forgets he was British really)

British, Irish, Scottish, Norman, Saxon, Welsh, Manx - it's all the same, really, isn't it?

;)

Happy St. Pat's!=:)

So the Scots and Welsh aren't British anymore, eh?

And you forgot English!

Well there is a large number of people in Scotland that would happily not be classed as british.

Only the nutters who support the SIP and claim Gaelic is not a dying tounge want to detach themselves from Britain.

Down with seperatism, Up with Unionism!

But,  but, are we not all Europeans now ;)

I welcome my Scottish European Brothers.

D'oh!  I knew I should have given my off-handed Ugly Americanism more thought than I did.  I'll do better next time.

Faith and begorrah!  Happy Saint Paddy's!

Hmm. Give the Scottish to Europe, that just might work. Wait, what am I saying. I may be just a Makem from the damp North East of England but even I see a fault in the previous comment. Mind youm anything I say will now be totally discounted as valued opinion, the only people listened to less than the Makems are the Geordies.

Anyway where was I... Oh yes.

Stands in front of the Union Jack. Rule, Britannia! starts playing in the background.

The English and the Scotts may argue over well anything and everything really but we will always know deep down that we are not true Europeans no matter what Brussels says.

For we know what fish and chips are and we get the concept of a chippy, Europe does not.

We understand the glory of the pint, Europe does not (we will admit the Germans may know a thing or two about making beer however).

We drive on the left, Europe does not.

We know why it is ok to laugh at the Welsh, Europe does not.

We know what a real cup of tea is (milk, one sugar, none of that green herbal stuff for me thanks), Europe does not.

We use the Pound Sterling, Europe does not.

We unfortunately have Simon Cowell, Europe does not (lucky gits).

Well, there are a few of us ultra-pro-european brits around.  Just a few, mind. ;)

Tylorva (Pro-EU and proud of it!)

I'm yet to personally meet mainland Europeans who actually know that Wales is a country :)

I agree with Gwenlynn, we are all Europeans now! :)
Where is it you're from Gwenlynn?

PS: The only reason no one listens to the Geordies is because no one can makes or tails from what they're on about.
Something about coal?
;)

My fellow European brothers and Sisters, what are our views on bailing out Greece?

thought Wales was a Principality.... Anyway I don't consider myself European I'm English British.

I am from the Netherlands, where resentment against the EU is slowly growing because so many people do not understand what it is all about and grumble that we have to pay so much of our money to all those countries that keeps getting added to the EU. We also dislike the fat that the EU is forcing rules on us that we don't like.

Problem is that getting out of the EU would be stupid, we need them as much as they need us. Personally I am against any new members though. Let us concentrate on bringing the new countries first up and running before we add new ones. Greece is a good example of that. It's financial status is a mess and they should never have been allowed to get in that fast. Now we must bail them out and there is no good system to make sure that we will not have to do that again in the future.

First clean up the mess and make sure that the EU can be governed in an acceptable way, with a constitution and everything. Then we can start thinking of adding favored trade parties to it.

Ps: I consider myself Dutch first, Frysian second, western European third and finally EU member last.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:48, Wed 17 Mar 2010.

No, Wales is it's own country. They share our legal system however, as does Commonwealth countries, and act in nearly every respect as a principality.

I agree with you. Wasn't it a few years back Greece had to be bailed out due to a lack of proper economic investment. Tourist bsed economies never fare well, I think it's only a matter of time before we have a similar problem with Spain.

Alright, I say a few things I say here, Happy St. Patrick's Day everybody!

And... "Kiss me, I'm Irish!" Bite me, I'm Polish.
More of an objection to the kissing bit than the Irish.

Though to be fair, I'm only ethnically Polish, coming from the suburbs of Chicago, so I guess I'm the odd Yankee out. Though I will say that Greece is a dang mess from what I understand from the BBC and the Daily Show, I honestly doubt there is any way they can really pull themselves out of it, selling islands nonwithstanding. Though to be honest, I can barely comprehend American economics, if you could call it that though I would prefer the term swindling, let alone what the other European nations have done to tie their currencies in knots. It's a very sad state of affairs that so many people can just throw logic to the wind and gamble with the economies of entire nations, loose, and not even get a slap on the wrist for it. It's just.... disheartening. I don't know how I'll ever cheer myself up....

Oh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ature=response_watch

Irish-Minnesotan!

I'm a mutt, mostly German-Dutch and English-Irish (my mother's family are Connellys).

I did go to art school in Minnesota for five years...

LOL!  Cat people is also pretty funny as well.

"Just like Columbus he get murderous on purpose."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2XGp5ix8HE

Actually, that's incorrect. Legally and constitutionally, Wales is part of England, following the Laws in Wales Acts 1535-1542. Also, traditionally it is referred to as a principality, hence the bestowing of the title "Prince of Wales" upon the heir to the English throne. It hasn't technically been it's own country for centuries.

Also, not all Commonwealth countries share the UK legal system. Some did, up until their independence, but many have changed in the mean-time. Technically, however, the UK can still pass legislation that covers former Empire territories, as it did with the Southern Rhodesia Act 1965. The only problem is enforcing the law over that territory, which is essentially impossible nowadays.

I thought it was it's own country due to it's (small and often ignored) Parliament?
And I thought 'Prince of Wales' as a title was gained in around the 1300's with the death of Ap Adams? I could be mistaken, though.

The vast majority of Commonwealth countries have kept our laws though. Easier methinks :)

Wales doesn't have a Parliament, it has an Assembly, which is a lot smaller in scope and power to a Parliament. For instance, London has the Greater London Assembly, which essentially has many similar powers to the Welsh Assembly.

So yea, it doesn't have it's own proper government or parliament.

Yet.... :)

I spent two hours with Watson and Stewart the other day discussing WH40K, RT, DH and all points in-between. My garbled recollections are here...

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=505592

Interesting interview, I would love to see books expanding detail of the main planets like Scintilla detailed maps with notable locations, just kinda how everything works really

<.<  >.>
Down with Angle-Saxony!
VIVRE LA ACADIA!
.... Well whats left of us anyway.  Though WH40k is British so I could never really hate England.

Thanks for the effort Kilgs, it was a good read with some interesting news. So how did you manage to get these two people to sit still for two hours so you could interview them?

They were at the FFG Event Center. Watson was there to talk with people and he roped Stewart into the conversation. As mentioned, it was more of a chat than interview. Both guys were really great, very helpful.

Not sure if I or someone else has posted this for the forum. This website is my all-time favorite resource for DH and WFRP… Once you register, you can create DH characters and WFRP characters with a number of the book options added. Excellent resource for printing out whole reams of NPCS in one fell swoop. Both of the mirror sites also have the option for “generic” characters so you can build that awesome NPC!

http://www.malleus.dk/Whfrp/Default.aspx

http://www.malleus.dk/Ordo/Default.aspx

The maps and other items are also excellent.

Two great sites!

Here is another great April Fool's prank-

http://wikitravel.org/en/Mordor

And another... or maybe not?

http://www.frpgames.com/cart.p...t_detail&p=64137

LOL!  Awesome!

Several new arrivals so let's give them all a nice welcome=:)

<Chambers a round, turns on targeter and warms up the good ole' chainsword!>

Welcome, one and all!  Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-haaaa!

*hands out suspicious-looking meat pies*

*Looks suspiciously at meat pie*

"For free? Again? But we discussed this - that just makes them look even more dodgy. No-one gives away a decent meat pie for free."

*Sniffs one cautiously*

"And aren't these the same ones you had last year?"

They were so good, I've held them over for another season!  Back by popular demand!

Yum!  They taste almost the same as last years!

Is that a fingernail?

Loads of new arrivals so welcome aboard!

Welcome!

Huzzah! I hath arrived...

>.>

<.<

>.<

Welcome, welcome, take a seat, have some punch and enjoy the warmth from the fire.

Oh, fire!

It's a bit small though, but that is easily rectified...

Points to the sign over the hearth.

"No flamethrowers allowed inside the pub"

A single tear runs down Nanning's cheek.

Accepts the punch and sits down, looking at the people present with all his eyes*.

*) Mutations: easy to get, hard to get rid off.

good morning

Well afternoon, but yes it is ;0).

Welcome, one and all!

Pay no heed to the rats.  They're almost certainly not sentient.

By Sigmar they have guns!

<finishing an epic 3 months campaign with Terror of Talabheim>

Bar:  Are they in the Walls? Oh No...No... the rats; the slithering scurrying rats whose scampering will never let me sleep; the daemon rats that ra...<<PATTAT>>...


OrdMall:  BURN THE HERETIC! Daemon Rats? <<TSCH>> What a fool everyone knows that there's no such thing as Daemon Rats. Daemon Pies on the other hand... <<PATTAT>>


OrdHer: EXTERMINATE the RADICAL! EXTERMINATE the RADICAL!

Hi everyone! New meat here.

Welcome aboard...and glad I just ate=:)

In that case, glad to meat you :-)

NOM NOM NOM

...urp.

Delicious, if a bit gamey.

Aw crap, Devin just got gene stole! Whip out the flamers and fully auto assault rifles, it's a bug hunt man, bug hunt!

*Is soon drawn out bullet hell.*

For those lucky enough to have a long weekend I hope it is a good one.  House warming party with BBQ and drinks on my end and hopefully a game or two of something....Formula D anyone?

Sounds nice, flakk!  I'm running a LARP event this evening, myself, with a friend's going-away party in the mix.

But a housewarming and BBQ sound pretty goo -- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaathat'snotwhatImeantahhhhhhh....

*is consumed in flames*

*Pulls Cadian approach for a defeated foe*

Who wants breast meat?  I call dibs on drumsticks.

Isn't that the Kroot method?

Pff, when you're this professional of a soldier, you eat whatever is slow enough.

Truly, words of wisdom :)

If I wanted to ask questions about the madness of converting WFRP2 for Blood Bowl, should I do that in this thread or a different one. I'm thinking a mercenary team to cover a mish mash of races, hopefully it would include shenanigans on and off the pitch. (No absconding with the team finances and the Darkside Cowboys cheerleaders, that's already been done ^^)

A salute from Canada to all those celebrating Memorial Day.

"The first shot is for the Devil, the second for God, and only the third for the King." from a little French guy who liked his potatoes.

Welcome aboard to several new arrivals=:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlrIHU82TO0

Dark Millenium online, the upcoming 40k MMO.

So, who do I need to sacrafice to the Chaos Gods to get into the beta for this? :)

Wow!  Heck yah!  Orks!!!!!

I saw that earlier...

One one hand, I'm quite interested.  I've long been an MMO player (I even worked for WoW for a couple of years), and I still enjoy this kind of gaming from time to time... A 40K MMO sounds neat.

On the other hand, it looks very Space Marine-focused. I'm not a big Space Marine fan - I find them a bit dull. I hope there will be other Imperial choices (gief Inquisition options plz!).  Particularly as a female player who does prefer to play female characters in these types of games!

Graham McNeill, Matthew Ward and Alessio Cavatore would be a good start.

It sounds indeed very interesting, but yes, missing out on the scantily clad females will hurt that game before it even gets started. And suddenly allowing female Space marines is somehow wrong and not 40k.

Tricky.

Sisters of Battle, Female IG, Female Inquisitors
Assorted female Aspect Warriors.
Depending on what they do for the non CSM chaos side, you could have female characters there, but I agree that we shouldn't see female marines.

Indeed... these are the sorts of things I want to see for the Imperium side.

My concern was that if it was just going to be Space Marines vs Orks, that doesn't put anything in for us girlies at all.

Advised again to include the Deathwatch in the Forum's name! :)

I added what I could but there is a limit to how long the name can be....

Why not call it something like 'Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40K Roleplaying Forum'? :)

Done=:)

Rawr!

Good suggestion....the name was getting a bit clunky=:)

Happy Canada Day!

Happy Independence Day to our fellow Yanks, make sure to blow up something nice and big.

I know I did, practically vaporized a coke can with just bottle rockets. That's the American way!!!!!

I can do you one better. I celebrated the Fourth yesterday with my family since my dad had to leave on a business trip today. We set off fireworks last night. One of the mortars detonated early, about 15 or 20 feet off the ground. Part of it landed in the plastic storage tote with the rest of the mortar shells...and detonated all of them. Two sides of the box were completely destroyed.

It was AWESOME! But only because no one got hurt. We've been doing large firework shows for years now and this is the first time we've ever had anything like this happen.

I bow before your skills of righteous destruction, sir.

Hey all.

I'm the ranking FNG on these here forums (the 40K Roleplay Forum, not RPOL).

I'm looking forward to getting some serious gameage going on.

Welcome aboard to all the new arrivals!  Don't be shy and I hope that you find what you are looking for.

Like non-Warhammer board games?  Like board games?  Come join the fun.

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