Mad Mick
 member, 958 posts
 GURPS beyond measure,
 outlander
Tue 3 Sep 2019
at 04:29
Re: RPoL Design Update
It looks like I am unable to create just a blank character sheet under Character Details on the responsive site. I'm being asked to fill out the field, but I'd like to leave it blank and let the player upload their character sheet.
horus
 member, 871 posts
 Wayfarer of the
 Western Wastes
Tue 3 Sep 2019
at 06:23
Re: RPoL Design Update
Thanks for full-color icons! They are much more useful now in a dark theme.
horus
 member, 872 posts
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 Western Wastes
Tue 3 Sep 2019
at 06:36
Re: RPoL Design Update
Mad Mick:
It looks like I am unable to create just a blank character sheet under Character Details on the responsive site. I'm being asked to fill out the field, but I'd like to leave it blank and let the player upload their character sheet.


Aha!  I think I see what your getting at:  opening the Edit Window (Edit Character Sheet), if you delete previously stored data, you cannot completely blank the field and then update.  Right now, the work-around would be to leave one character (it can even be a space).

jase would have to answer the question as to whether this is a bug or a feature...
horus
 member, 882 posts
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 Western Wastes
Sat 7 Sep 2019
at 00:44
Re: RPoL Design Update
I'm noticing some odd things on the responsive site regarding Private Messages and rMail:

In Thread Details, the data for whom the message is from is not displayed, but as soon as someone posts to the thread, their name is displayed as the last poster.

In rMail:  If rMail is from a Moderator, instead of displaying Moderator, it displays an actual poster's screen name...  Is that how it used to work?  (Funny... don't remember that.)
Mad Mick
 member, 959 posts
 GURPS beyond measure,
 outlander
Sun 8 Sep 2019
at 21:54
Re: RPoL Design Update
In reply to horus (msg # 340):

Yes, that's right. I've started a new game, and I went to Character Details -> Create Character Sheet for my new players so they could upload their sheets. On the current site, this is fine, but on the responsive site, I can't save a blank sheet. Your suggestion about leaving one character there is fine, but it would be nice to leave it blank for the characters to put their own sheets there. (I don't use a standard sheet.)
horus
 member, 883 posts
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 Western Wastes
Mon 9 Sep 2019
at 02:47
Re: RPoL Design Update
Yeah, it's a work-around.  I leave it at the top-left (first column in Row 1).
Skald
 moderator, 878 posts
 Whatever it is,
 I'm against it
Mon 9 Sep 2019
at 05:03
Re: RPoL Design Update
horus:
In rMail:  If rMail is from a Moderator, instead of displaying Moderator, it displays an actual poster's screen name...  Is that how it used to work?

I was just about to test that by sending horus one rMail when I was logged in as a normal user and a second rMail when I was logged in as a Moderator ... but when I went into rMail on responsive I couldn't find the Compose a new rMail (or the Mark all as Read).

Was using Win 10+Firefox; both latest versions, but checked IE 11 and same problem.


I also noted that Firefox renders the RuBB version, generation time and Main | Forum | Top footer elements all on the same line (left, centre and right of screen respectively), which I like, whereas IE has all three footer elements in the centre of the screen on three lines.
horus
 member, 885 posts
 Wayfarer of the
 Western Wastes
Mon 9 Sep 2019
at 05:15
Re: RPoL Design Update
Skald:
I was just about to test that by sending horus one rMail when I was logged in as a normal user and a second rMail when I was logged in as a Moderator ... but when I went into rMail on responsive I couldn't find the Compose a new rMail (or the Mark all as Read).


Huh... I was just looking for the Compose rMail button myself.  Small world.
jase
 admin, 3729 posts
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 Carpe stultus!
Wed 11 Sep 2019
at 14:17
Re: RPoL Design Update
horus:
In Thread Details, the data for whom the message is from is not displayed, but as soon as someone posts to the thread, their name is displayed as the last poster.

Pretty sure it's the same on the current site.  No point having "Posted by jase, 0 replies, last reply by jase".  A) it's redundant and B) it's not actually a reply.

horus:
In rMail:  If rMail is from a Moderator, instead of displaying Moderator, it displays an actual poster's screen name...  Is that how it used to work?  (Funny... don't remember that.)

Yeah it should have the moderator's name.


Fixed the missing compose button for rMail, you can also create empty character sheets again.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 143 posts
Sat 14 Sep 2019
at 16:11
Re: RPoL Design Update
Are edits (not to the most-recent post, specifically) supposed to be flagging threads with new message icons? I'm still getting some wonky notifications (despite relogging and clearing cookies) but edits seem to be always pushing them - at least for me.

Also, do we have any kind of ETA for putting in the CSS stuff for adjusting the colors of the 'Step 1, Step 2, etc' on the dieroller page? I know you had mentioned a while ago just not having it put in yet, jase, but I'm curious if there's a timeline there. Not being able to see my dieroller is the only thing keeping me from full-on drinking the koolaid and going to the responsive site full-time, now. :)
jase
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Sun 15 Sep 2019
at 13:01
Re: RPoL Design Update
Have made a few more tweaks to the layout and adjusted some screens.
  1. Creating a game should now be responsive.
  2. Fixed a fair bit of the rMail layout and also made it more consistent with posting messages in games/forums.
  3. The post info "column" should now have a more sensible maximum width.  Previously it was 25% of the entire screen, which at 1400px meant 350px.  It's now 25% but up to a maximum of 220px, which is wide enough to fit 99.4% of character names plus their portrait.
  4. I've reduced the max page width to 1350px as 1400px was just too wide and looked crazy in some places, will see how this looks after a bit of use.  Despite the 50px reduction you've still got an extra 80px width for the message content due to the reduced maximum post information width.
  5. The above two rely on your browser supporting "calc" in CSS, which 98.2% of desktop browsers do.
  6. Bunch of other tweaks and fixes.  Bit more consistency around, added some more form validations.  Other things, whatever they were!

In reply to SunRuanEr (msg # 347):

I can't replicate the issue, whether editing the most recent post or an old post.  I've generally only edited the HTML layout so things like cookies shouldn't be affected in any way.

Diceroller I've been thinking about how to compact the layout without making it squashed.  Will do both the colours and layout at the same time.  Next page to fix up I think.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 144 posts
Sun 15 Sep 2019
at 15:12
Re: RPoL Design Update
jase:
I can't replicate the issue, whether editing the most recent post or an old post.  I've generally only edited the HTML layout so things like cookies shouldn't be affected in any way.

I'll chalk it up to my browser being possessed or something, then, and keep seeing if I can get it to reliably replicate. Thanks for looking.
jase
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Wed 18 Sep 2019
at 13:41
Re: RPoL Design Update
SunRuanEr:
Also, do we have any kind of ETA for putting in the CSS stuff for adjusting the colors of the 'Step 1, Step 2, etc' on the dieroller page?

Update your custom theme, you should then get the colours for the die roller.  Compacted the layout a few days ago.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 147 posts
Wed 18 Sep 2019
at 15:48
Re: RPoL Design Update
Yay! Thanks, jase!

*moves in full-time*
Escribblings
 member, 37 posts
Wed 18 Sep 2019
at 19:29
Re: RPoL Design Update
I posted this on the asthetics thread...

escribblings:
Don't know if it's just me...

I have a Samsung Note 10+.  This has curved screen edges.

Would there be a possiblity of a couple of pixels of padding on the left and right of the page?

It's going right to the edge, round the curve, and although it isn't, it feels like it's cutting a bit off and I constantly have the urge to scroll, where no scroll is available.


I raise this again because today I had a further issue.

The text entry box also goes right to the edge, round the curve of the screen.

Today I had a hell of a job trying to get the cursor to the end of the line with my finger...

Managed it by rotating the phone in the end, but it's a nuisance.

So if you could add some side padding, it would be really appreciated.
nauthiz
 subscriber, 632 posts
Wed 18 Sep 2019
at 23:57
Re: RPoL Design Update
As a workaround for the moment, if you're using the Samsung default keyboard you might look into enabling "cursor control".

Google's keyboard has a similar feature which I find very helpful on RPoL.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 157 posts
Wed 2 Oct 2019
at 03:19
Re: RPoL Design Update
Noticed a problem with viewing character descriptions that have pictures in them tonight when on a phone (or when the site is narrowed all the way down on a desktop). Actually, a pair of problems.

Problem #1: Photos put in where the image is the very first thing at the top of the description, are getting shifted down below the character portrait (as I would expect them to be if they're too wide to display next to it, since they're the very first thing in the description), BUT they are getting the first five lines of text (what normally appears next to the portrait) above them and the rest of the text below them. Essentially, they're "splitting" the text, instead of appearing all before it as I would expect, since the image source tag is entirely before the text.

I realize, upon going back to the old site and checking, that the same thing happens when you size down a browser window on it. I had never noticed this before because it doesn't do that when viewed on my phone, and you'd have to pretty deliberately narrow your browser all the way - but it still feels like it would look a lot better if the image stayed by itself at the top and had all of the text follow it, IF it's the first thing in the description window, instead of being in the middle of the text when the window is narrow. Stat blocks next to portraits look kind of... well, cruddy, when they're broken up. (Edit: This happens with both right- and left-aligned photos. At first I thought it was only the right ones, but alas, it isn't.)

Problem #2: Wide photos in a description prevent it from narrowing to the proper size (it will only go as narrow as the widest image), and results in having some of the text "hanging out" to the right, over the normally-empty space beneath the Forum and Account menus. This doesn't happen in a regular thread - the same image posted in a thread gets resized to fit the thread-content portion of the window if the window narrows beyond the image's normal size. (On the plus side, this at least keeps photos normally in the upper right corner from splitting the stat blocks, so there's that... but it does make it pretty impossible to read, especially if using a theme where the text block background isn't the same as the background-background.)

Not sure if there's any fix to the first one, since it does that on live too, unless there's a way to force the site to keep whatever is entered first at the top no matter the window width, but the second one feels like maybe there's a fix, since wide pictures don't cause the same problem in actual threads? Maybe? *fingers crossed*

Edit: Took me a bit to find a description in one of my games that didn't have a photo, but those don't seem to be scaling to fit the smaller screen window well, either. Images in a description that are narrow (not the ones causing Problem #2) are scaling to fit my phone screen, and forcing all the accompanying description text to fit the screen as well - just like it would in a game thread (which looks, well, normal). Descriptions without any image at all are leaving a swath of border around the text (about 1/2 of an inch on each side on my phone, and my screen is small) and forcing all of the description text into a narrow column down the middle. The narrow line around the description box is still there, reining it in just like the thread-text window in a thread, but unlike in the threads (which push that left-hand and right-hand space to the top and bottom when the screen is narrow), that space is never getting pushed away so that the actual information box can fill the screen.

This message was last edited by the user at 14:25, Wed 02 Oct.

Mittens
 member, 2 posts
 bio pt 1
 bio pt 2
Fri 4 Oct 2019
at 05:03
Re: RPoL Design Update
Looking great so far!  Thumbs up for the bigger font and un-cluttered layout!

Dark theme is very important to me due to the eye strain that white theme causes.  This was the very fist thing I tried out.  It worked everywhere except the main page.  But logging out of rpol.net and re-logging r.rpol.net fixed that.  Yay!  Thanks again for these great improvements for the visually impaired!  Please keep it up!  <3
Zag24
 supporter, 600 posts
Mon 14 Oct 2019
at 03:54
Re: RPoL Design Update
I've been away from RPoL for a few years, and been back for about a month.  I've been using the new site since returning and I wanted to give it a good trial before commenting.

Generally, I like the clean lines.  I personally don't care much about responsiveness because I'm only on RPoL on full sized computers, but I do understand that not everyone is at their screens as much as I am.  I think you've done a great job of allowing for responsiveness without giving up much when it isn't needed.

One bit I do miss from the other site is how the controls stayed on the screen all the time.  If I'm scrolling through a thread on Community Chat and decide I'm not interested, I have to scroll back to the top of the screen to get to the Home for Forum buttons (if I'm a few screens in and the back button doesn't make sense).  I realize that having dedicated real estate like that is anathema to responsive design that will work on small screens.  I just wanted to make sure that the dissenting opinion is out there.  If the consensus is for androids and iPhones, then I'm happy to bow to the majority.
steelsmiter
 member, 2058 posts
 BESM, Fate, Indies, PBTA
 NO FREEFORM! NO d20!
Mon 14 Oct 2019
at 04:01
Re: RPoL Design Update
Zag24:
One bit I do miss from the other site is how the controls stayed on the screen all the time.  If I'm scrolling through a thread on Community Chat and decide I'm not interested, I have to scroll back to the top of the screen to get to the Home for Forum buttons (if I'm a few screens in and the back button doesn't make sense).

Same. I've seen other sites use a floating up/down arrow off to the side that vanishes after a moment of scrolling. I really like those.


Spoiler for Necessitated longer reply that was basically irrelevant: (Highlight or hover over the text to view)
And I suppose since I'm getting a warning about not quoting so much text for such a short reply I better go ahead and extend it a little by saying my favorite design I've seen in a while is Blue Moon Roleplaying (though I'm not especially happy with the blue color scheme). Not that it's relevant, but... ya know... a longer reply.

This message was last edited by the user at 04:02, Mon 14 Oct.

MythZarya
 member, 30 posts
Mon 14 Oct 2019
at 07:40
Re: RPoL Design Update

Ditto on the sidebar.

On the original interface (within a game), the Menu bar is always visible no matter how far down the page I scroll. I frequently right-click on a Menu item at the top of the screen and open in a new tab, so that I can stay right where I'm at on the first tab/screen.

On the new interface this isn't possible. The Menu items aren't visible when I scroll down the page. I would prefer (as steelsmiter mentioned) a 'floating' or 'scrolling' sidebar.
Raddek
 supporter, 16 posts
Tue 15 Oct 2019
at 16:46
Re: RPoL Design Update
I'm sure it's on your list Jase, but all of the change portrait pages seem to have a fixed width in the responsive site that isn't lined up with the width of the actual 8x4 row of portraits.  It makes more of a difference on an actual computer where the portraits actually overlap the menus on the right side.  The site as viewed on a mobile device just seems to have odd coloring (half grey half white) since the menus are repositioned.
flakeytheleper
 member, 2 posts
Wed 30 Oct 2019
at 12:46
Re: RPoL Design Update
In reply to MythZarya (msg # 358):

I would love to have that right bar scroll as you move down the page.

Additionally, if this is possible, I would love to have the unread messages highlighted and made it so you automatically are placed at the location of your oldest unread post.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 165 posts
Sat 2 Nov 2019
at 18:33
Issue with new message warning before posting?
You know how there's the warning that comes up when you hit post if a new message has been posted to a thread (if one came up while you were in the writing window, so RPoL doesn't think you've seen it) that forces you to acknowledge it before you submit your post?

I've always gotten that on the old site, even when I preview my own post (which is good, because the most recent post in the thread isn't even viewable on the screen if the previewed post is of any decent length). On the responsive site, I am NOT getting that warning if I have previewed the post before hitting submit.
horus
 member, 919 posts
 Wayfarer of the
 Western Wastes
Tue 5 Nov 2019
at 07:07
Game Creation
Does anyone else have issues trying to create new games on the new site?

See:  https://r.rpol.net/display.cgi?gi=16&ti=2950&date=1572937505#bottom , please.