OOC 2.   Posted by Arbiter.Group: 0
Maverick
 player, 126 posts
 Master of Stealth
 Holder of Grudges
Thu 6 Sep 2012
at 23:03
Re: OOC 2
Arbiter:
OOC: Since Star Wars was created before the era of cell phones I should veto that action.  But, meh, I'm easy. ;)


LOL... irony: Star Wars tech.

Yeah, Datapads are more like notebooks, but since Maverick is entirely a spy type character, and I wasn't sure what tech he would obtain for taking pictures, I kinda used the datapad. Suggestions? No self-respecting spy would go without a means of recording what they saw.
Garret Haskel
 player, 750 posts
Thu 6 Sep 2012
at 23:13
Re: OOC 2
I'd hazard a guess and say I am doing way better than those of you who remained behind with the Tracker. One angry alien can be managed; an entire police force, several heavy lifting droids, and a pissed off Doc (who might or might sabotage something) all at once on the other hand.......
Arbiter
 GM, 1646 posts
 The whispering winds
 of Fate...
Fri 7 Sep 2012
at 00:12
Re: OOC 2
Maverick:
Arbiter:
OOC: Since Star Wars was created before the era of cell phones I should veto that action.  But, meh, I'm easy. ;)


LOL... irony: Star Wars tech.

Yeah, Datapads are more like notebooks, but since Maverick is entirely a spy type character, and I wasn't sure what tech he would obtain for taking pictures, I kinda used the datapad. Suggestions? No self-respecting spy would go without a means of recording what they saw.

Like I said, I'm easy. :)

Maybe Mav splurged on (or more likely stole) a high-end datapad rather than one of those bargain basement ones that won't even play Angry Mynocks... ;)
Maverick
 player, 127 posts
 Master of Stealth
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Fri 7 Sep 2012
at 02:07
Re: OOC 2
Heh. Thanks, bud.
Mittens
 player, 132 posts
Wed 12 Sep 2012
at 06:31
Re: OOC 2
Oh I thought the predator had just grabbed some random animal, not a fairy.  If it were a fairy in it's talons, Mits would sooo be shooting at it too.
Dackson Kulname
 player, 102 posts
 Arm Ripped Off By Wookie,
 All I Got Was A T-Shirt.
Wed 12 Sep 2012
at 06:33
Re: OOC 2
Mittens:
Oh I thought the predator had just grabbed some random animal, not a fairy.  If it were a fairy in it's talons, Mits would sooo be shooting at it too.

That's why when I was going to get to posting later, Dackson would say "It's probably more like a 'oh *censored* they just ate Dave!' panic attack than a confusion tactic"
Harry Selous
 player, 567 posts
 Killer of beasts
 sentients not excluded
Wed 12 Sep 2012
at 08:53
Re: OOC 2
You know, listening to you people talk on here, I'm excited for all the groups to meet finally. I want in on fairy shooting talon predator hunting scenario. I swear arbiter, if you have them on a hunting trip without me, I am going to be extremely sore with you. :P
Agial'ili
 player, 618 posts
 Blue and a Tech Wiz
Wed 12 Sep 2012
at 13:14
Re: OOC 2
Nah more like an abandon ship scenario!
Arbiter
 GM, 1648 posts
 The whispering winds
 of Fate...
Wed 12 Sep 2012
at 13:48
Re: OOC 2
Man...  Remind me to never go with you guys anywhere the Circle of Life is a-circlin'... O_O

"THAT BALD EAGLE JUST SNAGGED A BABY TROUT!  BLAST IT!  THAT WOLF PACK JUST TOOK DOWN AN ELK!  ANNIHILATE THEM!  A RATTLESNAKE JUST BIT A WOOD RAT!  BURN DOWN THE FOREST!!!"

Ya nature-hating psychos. ;)

Selous: I had a whole mission that was specifically tailored for your skills.  But, thanks to Strickland, that whole thing went out the window.  So, feel free to thank him with the business end of your hunting rifle next time you see him. ;)
Mittens
 player, 133 posts
Wed 12 Sep 2012
at 16:07
Re: OOC 2
In reply to Arbiter (msg # 904):

So was I right?  The predator was snatching a critter, not a person?  Pretty important difference there for how Mits would have/will react.
Arbiter
 GM, 1651 posts
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Wed 12 Sep 2012
at 17:10
Re: OOC 2
It snatched a "faerie"...

What this means, exactly, has yet to be determined.

Remember, monkeys are humanoid and most of us wouldn't consider them people, so...
Agial'ili
 player, 620 posts
 Blue and a Tech Wiz
Wed 12 Sep 2012
at 17:11
Re: OOC 2
Sorry but Agie is a sucker for small helpless beings in dire need.
Maverick
 player, 130 posts
 Master of Stealth
 Holder of Grudges
Wed 12 Sep 2012
at 21:58
Re: OOC 2
In reply to Arbiter (msg # 906):

While true, that's because we've had the chance to study and know about monkeys. Put us on an alien world and we find something humanoid, you can bet the assumption will be "sentient until proven not". :)

Meanwhile, something for fellow GMs' amusements from another thread:

Some Player:
Tsk. Its best exercise a GM regularly. Otherwise they start to get up to mischief.

GM:
You act like we don't think up mischief anyway...

That Player, tempting fate...:
Pffft. I'm still waiting for your mischief.

GM:
Think carefully before you say such things...

Yup! Same Player.:
Given the position I'm in, with the good guys, bad guys, cops and my own family all out to get me, whatever you'd come up with would have to take a number and wait for its turn.


.....some people just have a death wish for their characters. Others go out of their way and get on their knees, begging for punishment while thinking they are invincible.

Yet, at the same time, if the player has nothing to lose like this person is claiming, there does come a point where the GM's threats seem null and void.

This message was last edited by the player at 22:09, Wed 12 Sept 2012.

Mittens
 player, 135 posts
Thu 13 Sep 2012
at 02:29
Re: OOC 2
That conversation made me facepalm, but I'm guessing they're just joking around...  I hope.
Dackson Kulname
 player, 104 posts
 Arm Ripped Off By Wookie,
 All I Got Was A T-Shirt.
Thu 13 Sep 2012
at 02:38
Re: OOC 2
Mittens:
That conversation made me facepalm, but I'm guessing they're just joking around...  I hope.

It really misses something when you omit the fact that player left their fellow PCs to burn to death in a car they had just set on fire while flipping off the cops, as you revealed to me later.

Mittens:
Irony: That's a good roll with a good skill score that reflects military interrogation resistance training, but looks small next to 4d6 and 5d6 type rolls so Mits will prolly end up failing lots of her willpower rolls because the difficulty will have to be jacked up to compensate for the other players huge rolls.  Not that the system isn't stacked against better-than-average people as it is.  2d6 is considered average ability in a stat.  7 is the average roll with 2d6.  Which beats an "easy" DC only a little better than half the time.  10 is the average roll for better-than-average 3d6.  Which doesn't beat "moderate" DC.  Dice systems.  *sigh*

Welcome to my mindset.  Except when it comes to "Bouncer only has low to barely average combat skills outside of a still-not-highest close combat gig" little miss Jetpack Commando.  Especially compared to past stories of your D6 Star Wars games throwing around double digit combat dice like that's the standard.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:39, Thu 13 Sept 2012.

Mittens
 player, 136 posts
Thu 13 Sep 2012
at 02:48
Re: OOC 2
Part of the reason I'm loving this game is: NO JEDI!

Seriously.  Bouncer and Commando in same team isn't near as "Angel Summoner and BMX kid" as Anything + Jedi.  Force powers turn the d6 system into a joke.  My Jedi char in previous game was dumping 12d6+2 for Lightsaber rolls, and that was before the another Jedi in the group got combat meditation up and whatever other combat powers we had going.  After a certain point we broke the DC table where Legendary (31+) rolls were common.

Of course, you'd better hope the enemy never connects.  Because they're dumping all kinds of crazy damage dice just like the players, and if you didn't have the force powers, force points, armor, and huge STR dice to absorb 51 damage, your char would die in 1 hit.  Looots of GM BS to keep that game from imploding before the finale.

Makes more sense now why the GM at the beginning said, "You're either all force sensitive or all NOT.  No force sensitive PCs with those who aren't."
Arbiter
 GM, 1653 posts
 The whispering winds
 of Fate...
Thu 13 Sep 2012
at 03:35
Re: OOC 2
Despite what usually happens in games with Jedi (or at least force sensitives who can do something with their abilities), it is possible to keep the be-Force-ed ones in check so that everyone else can play. ;)

The Paladin Paradox is always useful.  If a Jedi gets too lightsaber happy, it's very easy for them to Fall, in which case they have to retire their character.

Force powers don't work on everyone and everything.  Throw a Hutt into the mix and the Jedi who gets used to mind-tricking his way out of every situation is screwed.

It's just like a high-level D&D campaign.  At a certain point, the squishy little wizard is suddenly capable of reshaping reality at his whim and conjuring world-devastating forces with the flick of a wrist.  Makes it kinda hard for the poor Thief to keep his hand in.

It's up to the GM to find a way to keep the game balanced so everyone gets a turn.

Oh, and for what it's worth, I think the concept of "character balance" is ridiculous.  Characters shouldn't be equal in all things--otherwise, why have classes?  Fighter fight, Thieves thieve, Clerics are walking first aid kits, etc.  None of them should be able to perform as well as any other outside of their designated role.

Even in a "classless" system there's no reason all characters should be even.

But enough about why 4th Edition D&D sucks rocks... ;)

What I'm really trying to get at is that I feel it's the GM's job to keep everything on an even keel.  If someone is destabilizing the game, it's up to him to restore order.

So, be warned... >:)
Mittens
 player, 137 posts
Thu 13 Sep 2012
at 04:21
Re: OOC 2
Arbiter:
The Paladin Paradox is always useful.  If a Jedi gets too lightsaber happy, it's very easy for them to Fall, in which case they have to retire their character.


Fun story.  I built my char to be the team meat shield.  Had 1d in KNO and really played up how durp the char was.  But he wasn't so durp that he didn't notice an important thing: "When I was a mercenary I had a stun setting.  Now that I'm a Jedi, no stun setting.  I end up killing stuff more as a 'love life' Jedi than a 'shoot first' merc."

So the character started investing lots of time and effort into learning the advanced skill "lightsaber engineering" to figure out how to put a stun setting on his lightsaber.  Finally, near the end of the game, Mr. 1d KNO Durpface invents a stun saber.  At long last he could fight evil without having to worry as much about leaving a trail of corpses in his 'love life' Jedi wake.  That for me was "winning" that game more than defeating the final boss.
Arbiter
 GM, 1654 posts
 The whispering winds
 of Fate...
Thu 13 Sep 2012
at 04:47
Re: OOC 2
Nice. :D
Harry Selous
 player, 568 posts
 Killer of beasts
 sentients not excluded
Thu 13 Sep 2012
at 06:26
Re: OOC 2
Man... D6 probability statistics are boring. I just do crazy shit and hope I roll well. That's always the most fun way to play as far as I'm concerned.
Maverick
 player, 132 posts
 Master of Stealth
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Thu 13 Sep 2012
at 12:49
Re: OOC 2
Arbiter:
But enough about why 4th Edition D&D sucks rocks... ;)


For you. Please keep that in mind. :p
Arbiter
 GM, 1656 posts
 The whispering winds
 of Fate...
Thu 13 Sep 2012
at 14:38
Re: OOC 2
Harry Selous:
Man... D6 probability statistics are boring. I just do crazy shit and hope I roll well. That's always the most fun way to play as far as I'm concerned.

So do I.  Probably not advisable for a GM, but... ;)

Maverick:
Arbiter:
But enough about why 4th Edition D&D sucks rocks... ;)


For you. Please keep that in mind. :p

THAC0 FOREVER!!!! >_<
Agial'ili
 player, 621 posts
 Blue and a Tech Wiz
Thu 13 Sep 2012
at 14:55
Re: OOC 2
I am also not a fan of DnD 4ed ed. I mean, if I want to play a computergame then I prefer to let the computer do the work.
Arbiter
 GM, 1657 posts
 The whispering winds
 of Fate...
Thu 13 Sep 2012
at 17:37
Re: OOC 2
5th sounds like it's actually shaping up nicely.

Although I can't help but notice that it's dipping back into 2nd edition quite a bit for inspiration. ;)
Maverick
 player, 133 posts
 Master of Stealth
 Holder of Grudges
Thu 13 Sep 2012
at 17:55
Re: OOC 2
Agial'ili:
I am also not a fan of DnD 4ed ed. I mean, if I want to play a computergame then I prefer to let the computer do the work.


To each their own. And believe me, having played 3.5, I know why you say "computer game" about 4e. But is it really too much to ask to please not diss the game I enjoy? I have not done so to any of you and I rather tire of people picking on the game I had fun with. My friends and I had lots of laughs, good memories, etc.

Arbiter:
THAC0 FOREVER!!!! >_<


XD And you can enjoy that to your heart's content.
Though really, all I've noticed about 5th is it borrows much from Pathfinder (Such as making cantrips and orisons At-Will rather than so many times per day). I think it would be cool if it is, in fact, borrowing from older editions of D&D if just to bring people back to a time Gygax enjoyed. :)

Regardless of the outcome, you can be sure I'll be trying 5th edition.