Group,

Time for a new OOC thread!

For performing her Storyteller role, Rowan has lowered the Fear Level of the town by another level. It definitely feels better in Near Wichita than other communities or the wild areas of the Wasted West. Also, you get another Legend Chip to add to the pot.

Further, all PCs receive another level of Grit, which is +1 to all Fear checks.

Rejoice!

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #1):

Tony I know you said we had chips to spend.
Where are they quanity etc please
[Private to The Marshall: Also Rowan once alone is going to want to look at the book after careful preperation.
To see what it is and what all the fuss was about.
Ian]

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #2):

Chips are listed on your character sheet. You can use them to improve rolls or convert them to "Bounty" (XP). White Chips give you 1 Bounty, Red are good for 2, and Blue for 3. [Private to Rowan Dawson: White: 4 Red: 2 Blue: 0] Skills cost the next level up to increase, so going from 2 to 3 is 3 Bounty. Also, adding a Concentration (say, adding Rifle to Shootin') is another 3 Bounty. This is pretty much instant.

Attributes and Edges are a lot more expensive! And, they take time. [Private to Rowan Dawson: I don't have access to the book at the moment, so you'll have to be patient until I can recover that file. Sorry!]

Tony

Okay can I then increse the following
 Trade healer from 1 d 12 to 2 d 12
and ridding M/c from 1 d6 to 2 d6

Thanks Ian

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #4):

Ian,

Will do. Bear in mind, the Trade skill doesn't allow you to heal (that's 5d12 General Medicine) but simply to make a living as a healer. If that makes sense?

It does she just need to be able to eara living
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:14, Mon 21 Nov 2011.

Yeah i should do this for roadkill too. pretty sure he has way too many chips.

Uh-huh, Roadkill is maxed out for chips!

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #8):

and then some

i have sort that all out if it is a good time to do so
This message was last edited by the player at 12:33, Thu 24 Nov 2011.

Not a problem, let me know via PM or OOC post and I'll be happy to adjust your chips. I can also make a suggestions if you like.

Tony

yep. i like that

In reply to Roadkill (msg #11):

I have spent 6 bounty points (One red, One Blue and One White) to up Trejo's Armor of the Saint's from 2 to 3.  I have updated the character sheet.

Guys,

just for your information, I have it on good authority that there is another  Hell on Earth game being set up over this weekend. Which I am going to join ;)


Marc

Let me know where please
Thanks
Ian

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #13):

Sure, post the link for anyone who's interested when it becomes available. I may or may not be able to join in, sounds like fun.

Tony

Will do. Actually, the GM plans to run the Unity campaign as well, but he wants to play through something about a sword.
I'm thinking about playing either a Cyborg or a Syker...

Marc

P.S.: I'm a work right now, will answer Rowan's question later ;)

link to another game

There it is.

Marc

Grin
Could be interesting, I look forwasrd to seeing wht the Colonel will do.. Chuckle
Ian

So am I Ian, so am I. We might both be surprised...

Marc

Yes, the poor Coyote. Going to have to get him a treat or two ;)

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #16):

My apologies, there may be a conflict at some point because I'm planning on doing "Unity" as well. That's probably still a long time away, you understand!

Tony

Tony,

while I see your point, that is far into the future, as we'Re goign to go through the other adventures 8Something About A Sword etc) first. Apart from that, I read Unity years ago, when I bought it and we've not had a conflict over that either ;)

Apart from that, we as players should be mature enough to be able to differtiate between what we know and what our characters know.

Marc
This message was last edited by the player at 23:24, Sat 26 Nov 2011.

In that case I will not play in the other
Ian

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #23):

Ian,

No need to rule anything out at this point. I sent an RTJ as well and it could be the GM is going a different direction. As well, I'm hoping to do some other adventures along the way ("Boise Horror", "The Destroyer", "Air Force One is Down") so who knows if we'll get to "Unity" or not.

As for RP between Rowan and Schaeffer, I'm willing to let things progress and not move the story along if you two want to finish this scene.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:25, Sun 27 Nov 2011.

In reply to The Marshall (msg #24):

Now i see why the col. came back.
If rowan wants, roadkill could look after the coyote. It is probably scared after that man was hurting her all night.
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 08:30, Sun 27 Nov 2011.

]

Hmm should that not read the other way around. The poor worn out colonel in the Morning?
Ian

I do have 4d10 in Vigor, you know ;)

Marc

ahh opps it may well be worn out Rowan then :-}

Well, we could both be worn out together ;)

Chuckle likely

MArc,

You da man!

By the way, Ian asked me about camping gear. I assume everyone has a blanket/sleeping bag/shelter-half. Replacement costs are:

Shelter Half (advanced, can also be worn as poncho): $50
Sleeping Bag: $30
Thermal Pad: $15
Blanket: $10

Templar/Squire: Michaela has taken possession of Arthur's sword. Are either one of you interested in what seems to be the other Templar sword you recovered? It apparently belonged to "Chance", a Templar presumably killed by the Anti-Bishop.

Tony

I already carry a saber...and can't use it. Need to get someone to teach me how to ;)

I'd consider Trejo a valid candidate as he already is a Templar.


Marc
This message was last edited by the player at 12:08, Sun 27 Nov 2011.

Rowan is caring for this at the moment and is talking about taking it home as per the man request to the town

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #33):

It's not strictly necessary for either Templar to take custody of the bastard sword. If/when Michaela becomes a Templar she'll be awarded a new sword of her own. Trejo has his signature machete.

That aside, I talked to the other GM and gave him a head's up that we'd be running some of the same material (in theory). It should be cool now he's aware that some players might have prior knowledge of scenarios he wants to run and can make allowances.

So the plan for today is:

• Do a little general trading.
• Rowan trades for ammo and scrounges for spell components.
• Smoker and Roadkill work on the truck. Fix rear doors, supervise upgrades by local mechanics.
• Smoker does some scrounging of his own.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:13, Mon 28 Nov 2011.

Posse,

Shit!

I forgot about Arthur's funeral. It's today. As it's Sunday there will be a sermon as well.

Marshall's Notes

We have some players returning, and one or two joining for the first time. Some fairly significant rules changes are:
No spending chips to negate wounds. You can (and should) spend chips to Dodge, improve Initiative to get extra cards to hold for Dodge, etc. This works in your favour too, the bad guys won't be able to negate your Alpha-Strikes like they were doing before so if a shot hits the damage won't mysteriously go Bye-Bye.
You still get multiple Actions but you draw 1 Card per turn for Initiative and take all of them at the same time instead of acting on multiple Cards. Leadership skill and Cheat/Hole Cards work a little different now.
There was something else, I forget!

As a reminder, please make dialogue a different colour.

Tony

Hahahahaha! Awesome!

Tony

Posse,

Chip totals have been updated for those who requested Bounty buys. [Private to Roadkill: Still waiting on confirmation to my PM]

Trejo, Roadkill, Rowan, Schaeffer and Michaela all gained a white chip for either playing their disadvantages or amusing me!

Ian, to reiterate you can join the other HoE game if you like, there's no conflict.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:07, Fri 02 Dec 2011.

Yay! I get a Chip ;)

Who's coming back? I mean do I know them?

Thanks for reminding of churches Ian. Now I'm caught between two hindrances...

Marc

hheheh how do you think Rowan Feels.
See Mail for her answer to you

Thanks for the help ;)

Marc

 Wait till you see her reaction to Church

I'm intrigued ;) The Colone at least has "Big Britches" as a hindrance and loyal, so I can wing it...

Marc,

You might get a couple more for playing your Hindrances. Nice catch on the aversion, seeing all those people crucified might give anyone the Willies.

Reminder to Everyone: when you play your Hindrances, remind me so that I can reward chips.

Alan, who plays Peter Firecrow, is thinking of returning if he can. Even if not, I'm glad he thought about us. If Peter does return, he'll have a couple new characters with him.

Tony

Hi all new guy here. Um anyone looking to get things fixed should see their local Junker. Wonder who that might be? Hi Marc it's me Knight a.k.a. Adam.

Thanks Tony, that's what Hindrances are for, except for the free points of course ;)

Adam, man it's nice to see you. Welcome to the posse. And just in case you've forgotten, I could still use a hand in the other game ;)

Marc
This message was last edited by the player at 21:53, Fri 02 Dec 2011.

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #46):

I know you can. Gotta think on how to word it so that we can get some people to actually play.

Adam,

Is that something I can help you with, or is this a separate game altogether? [Private to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton: I reminded Ian he can join your game without problem, but he might have lost interest.]

Tony

It's a separate game. Started with 9 players and now it's Marc and one other. RPoL attrition at it's best folks.  As for my HoE game Ian you are more than welcome to join. And I plan on getting going in the morning after I get home.

In reply to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton (msg #49):

Player attrition van be very disheartening as a GM. I find that many (some but not all) internet games that start with lots of players have a high rate of attrition.

In a couple games (including this one) I had all but a few players drop out. I decided that if needed, I would run a game with one person and make it the best damn game I could. Back in the old days, before the Internet, "solo" games weren't uncommon and smaller games do have a lot of advantages.

Is this game that needs active players DL: HoE? If so, I would consider switching from "Tales of the Reckoning" in order to lend a hand. TotR has a lot of players now and I would enjoy playing with Marc (which will happen either way, of course).

[Private to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton: You're kind of lucky, I've been allowing only a couple Arcane characters in this game and one slot came open when Arthur died. Mainly, this is to keep things a little even and not have the focus on the Arcane. Plus, I'm lazy and I didn't want to spend a massive amount of effort reading and memorising the rules and background for Arcane characters.]

Tony

Sadly, it is not (another HoE game would be unbelievably fantastic as would a DL Classic game). It is a Mechwarrior 3 game. And it would indeed be great to be playing with you in (an) additional game(s).

Marc

Marc,

Adam's HoE game should be close to getting off the ground. As well, there are other DL Classic games out there.

We used to play Battletech a lot in the mid-80's on weekends, was in a couple campaigns (I recall I named our drop ship the "David ben Gurion" and no one knew who he was) in the late 80's early 90's. I'll have to see if I can join another game, the HoE game might be my limit for now!

Tony

Tony,

no worries and no need to stretch yourself thin on my behalf.



As soon as I get the last 1250$ and 5 building points assigned;)

Don't remind me of the 90's. A great time for rpgs that was. Btw, I ranted a bit in Adam's game and I want you to know that it is not against anyone. it's just some observations that were adressed to you ;)

Marc
This message was last edited by the player at 14:49, Sat 03 Dec 2011.

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #53):

Ha, that's fine for you to rant! Probably people want me to shut up by now. It's all kind of a matter of opinion anyways.

Funny to think we're practically from different generations, at least in gaming terms. My wife says when we have kids they will be 3rd generation gamers. After her father left the Army (Special Forces/RCAR, Van Doos) and worked different government jobs in corrections (prison/jailkeeper) and social services he went back to school in the 80's (SFU), where he played AD&D. He's now a professor of Criminology in Regina.

Tony

Hello all! I don't know how many of you played when I was a player, but...hi! Lol!

I am going to be bringing Peter back. I'm just trying to catch up on posts so I can see what happened first.

Also...who is this Adam and what is this I hear of anothe HOE game?

Tony,

that's very cool. Yeah, were of different generations, but we see eye to eye, I believe. And I like to listen to old-timers...

Alan,

welcome back. I actually used to play back when you were a player and I only came back a short time ago.

Marc

In reply to Peter Firecrow (msg #55):

  I would be Adam and yes I have another HoE game unfortunately at the moment it is a bit full. Waiting for attrition. And it is kicking off as soon as I am done posting here. MWHAHAHAHA! Evil GM laugh.

Alan,

I think only Marc is an original player.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #58):

Your character was being written out when I came in.

That church sign is great. The little things always add a lot.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #59):

Thanks! I remembered seeing you could do stuff like that on the net, and Bob's your uncle. [Private to Peter Firecrow: Ian was supposed to follow up on the quote, which is not just from the Torah but also in a poem written by a Jewish resistance member before she was executed by the Nazis.]



Shields her from what? Does someone have a problem with Churches? No one is supposed to expect the Spanish Inquisition! Now you ruined it.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #60):

Grin of course she has a proplem with established churches GRIN
Just role playing

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #61):

Roadkill doesnt like being told what to do so im guessing he has an issue with any organisation. It is his stubborn side.

Speaking of that. he would stay outside if the priest, mayor or the like said he can't smoke inside. Once pushed he can't help but push back.

In reply to The Marshall (msg #60):

Tony,

that's what happens if you let witches into your games and hit your players with phobias of crucifixes ;)

Apart from that, everyone's just roleplaying and the way I see it, there's been no offense intended all around nor any taken.

So lets game on.

Marc

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #63):

Don't worry, Ian and I are cool. We're just kidding around.

I'd say Rowan gets a White chip for RPing being uncomfortable about being a Witch in a Church. It's not really a Hindrance but good RP. (She's more into hiding being a Witch so actually going to church would be a better way of covering up!)

Roadkill: Power-Armour dude doesn't say anything, neither does the usher. If Roadkill lights up another inside the church, then he might be asked to leave or put it out. I'd say this RP is worth 2 White chips for Hindrances (Hankerin': Tobacco and Stubborn).

[Private to Roadkill: We can say that having made his point, he's not going to light another?]

Remember, everyone, you get chips for playing your Hindrances. I won't always catch that so please PM me if you think your RPing Hindrances is worth a chip!

Tony

That is exactly right. If every situation was nice and easy it would get dull.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #65):

Dang, I was assuming as no one was stopping him he'd go inside and then when done, not light another. That is, he proved his point and he's stopping smoking because he chooses to do so, not because he's asked.

Either way, that's fine! I'll edit my post and then we'll go from there.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #66):

ah yeah i missed all the church stuff early. He would have just started chewing tobacco as chewing makes you look hard and tough too. It is all about image after all.

Tony,

I know that, I was more worried about the rest of us. Naw, not really ;)
I just felt, I had to say it to make sure that there's no misunderstandings amongst us. Feel like I'm having some trouble to express my thoughts the right way latetly, so I've decided to be on the save side.

Marc

Its good Marc. Did RK and the Kurt bang heads in the past?

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #68):

I understand and appreciate that. Better to check if unsure! But Ian and I have gamed together in some sense for 12 years, and kid each other about our religious beliefs. He and my wife Michelle are both Wiccan/Pagan and like to gang up on me.

Tony

In reply to Roadkill (msg #69):

Good question. It's been a while. They were chafing at each other one time, I think, but no more that that. With Firecrow though, there was something of the Ferner Hindrance breaking through there. I seem to remember something about smoke signals;)

Anyway, the Colonel got his ashes hauled, so he's very laid back right now...

EDIT: And he likes Roadkill anyway ;)


Marc
This message was last edited by the player at 12:37, Tue 06 Dec 2011.

That explains a lot of Ians lines. I was thinking there was a lot of research going on there.
I personally hate organised religion but also hate the whole anti religion thing too. I believe I am a "whateveran".

In reply to Roadkill (msg #72):

It's called agnostic. Which is what I am.

I've been raised a Roman Catholic, but I consider myself an agnostic. Though sometimes, I admittedly put on the guise of a hardcore, pope-following catholic just to annoy people.

Marc

Marc,

That sounds a lot like me, I'm a lapsed Roman Catholic as well. If push came to shove I'd say I was agnostic, but might play it up for the sake of argument. I'll also do that with nationality; I have dual US-Canadian citizenship (my dad was working in Seattle for Boeing when we were born) so depending on the context I'll be either. (In Canada it's impolite to ask others about their religious views or push your own.)

Of course, I don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable. As a lapsed Catholic I'm unlikely to push a highly religious agenda. As someone who's read and run post-apocalypse games for decades I tend to think that, all things being equal, religion will actually tend to become more important in survivors' lives for different reasons.

I was reading Pinnacle's new HoE forums and came across a post from a hardcore Christian about witches (they were "orcs" in his game) that reminded me while some Christians are very tolerant of others' beliefs, others are not. I tend to find that religion, intolerance and racism (Neo-Nazim, White Supremacy and Christian Identity beliefs) are fertile grounds for inspiration so don't be surprised if those elements come up from time to time, besides the "abomination of the week".

Tony

Tony,

I absolutely agree on this. Like the old saying goes, "there's no atheists in the trenches". Most likely in a post-apoc situation you'll have a lot of very strong believers and a lot of people ho lost their faith...or as you can see in HoE gained a new one ;)

Marc

  Bad, bad, bad must stop religion tirade. Must stop Religion Tirade. MUST Stop RELIGION Tirade. Oh hell who am I kidding that is unfortunately a favorite topic of mine and could literally talk about it for several hours nonstop.

In reply to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton (msg #77):

Adam,

in that case remind me never to get you in contact with my girlfriend. She's a militant Atheist...

Marc

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #78):

Yeah those are a lot of fun to talk to for hours. Gets kinda heated and they usually stop being atheist when I'm done.

Thats because you are so easy to gang up on Tony.
Grin

Any way its all meant in fun
Ian

I'm sure Atheists in Canada and Germany have a much different situation to deal with than in the USA, different social context. [Private to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer: That is, there is tremendous pressure to convert the "heathen" in the USA and I'm not surprised many just give up and go along rather than keep fighting.] What might be viewed as extreme or fringe views here might be normal elsewhere, and vice versa.

That said, we're straying a little far from the game now!

Overall, I aim to be an equal-opportunity offender when it comes to religion. The Posse has run into an evil undead Catholic Bishop and his coterie of Pagan minions (Selene and her coven). The Baptists of Near Wichita seem to be tolerant folks. While they have learned certain lessons about the Reckoning (see the adventure "Leftovers") about tolerance, you may well run into militant Evangelicals and other Christians who prefer to convert heathens not via heated discussion but by gunpoint and would happily put all Pagans, gays, Jews to the sword as tools of Satan without a second thought. The point being if I portray violent religious extremists that happen to be Christian, it's not meant as a slam against all (or even most) Christians. (Or Muslims, or whatever.)

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:04, Wed 07 Dec 2011.

Somewhat. The only difference is that agnostics tend to believe that there may or may not be something out there. I mostly don't care and don't believe. Though I did always watch the x files... their line was 'I want to believe' I think.

Adam,

Totally. The meta-game concept here is that an NPC posse "ran" the adventure/Dime Store Novel "Leftovers". Has anyone read that Dime Store Novel? I have it in print, I'll download it to share if anyone wants to read it.

Tony

Tony,

own it, know it, like it.

Marc

P.S.: Just like Killer Clowns and Infestations

Yikes, im gonna need that novel,

In reply to Jane Guin (msg #85):

I'll be finished downloading it tonight and post the link.

Did I miss somewhere where the Law Dogs in HoE were detailed? They got a book in DL, but bupkis for HoE that I can tell. Yet they are somewhat important. Even the Librarians got a few paragraphs in The Maze.

Tony

Tony,

there's nothing about the Law Dogs whatsoever. Guess it was one of the many things that never got finished (like so many parts of the DL story line) when the folks at Pinnacle decided to stop the line.
Just take a look at the missing information in Waste Warriors, or the fact that they never really modified the Harrowed ruled for HoE; they just copied and pasted.

Marc

MArc,

Bummer. Well, here is Infestations. It will give you a look at the old Near Wichita. I dunno if this is clear but most of the old town were shacks and shanties and have mainly been torn down.

Crichton might have been through Near Wichita before the war, when it was called "El Dorado". That's still the name of the nearby lake.



Alan,

I know, I don't know what's gotten into people! Not that I'm complaining! Mainly we went from a few regular posters to half a dozen in a short time.

Part of the confusion is the group was split up, but I don't really like separate "location" threads even if they can sometimes be clearer who's where. I don't think anyone minds, and if posts seem to not always be clear, people understand that things get missed. As a rule, I won't mind and if it's important I'll PM for clarification.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #86):

The Law Dogs are in the Wasted West Book. It would make no sense to totally revamp Harrowed. As for Chricton being thru Near Wichita before the War not really before the war more of last fight of the War. The running retreat from the base in the South his element went thru Kansas.

There's about three paragraphs worth of info about the law dogs in Wasted West.
There's the Texas Rangers, there used to be the Agency and there's Cole Ballad (most info is on him) and that's that. No real "hard" info.
I never talked about a total revamp, I was talking about adaptation. Like does mutation work on harrowed? What about radiation? Etc.

Marc

Adam,

Understood. That's cool, Crichton might still know the original name, then. Perhaps seen it on a tactical map, had a supply depot there, etc.

If Harrowed come up I guess there's the new PEGInc. forums. As for Law Dogs, I understand that they understood their audience was wanting more "fantastic" monsters and morepowerful Arcane and the Law Dogs were probably not a high priority.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #91):

I would imagine that the manitous wouldn't allow mutations to work. Rads would be absorbed and build up to make a harrowed a  walking nuke eventually, but again wouldn't harm them. Yeah I know the Law Dogs get two whole sentences but the two whole ones that they get are enough to start the idea. Like Tony said most people wanted new arcanes and stuff like that not Law Dogs. However depending on what you are wanting to know I can homebrew some fluff for you. The crunch I am much better at in HoE than other systems.

In reply to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton (msg #92):

Excellent points there. My (decades of) experience with the post-apocalypse has been mostly realistic (save for Gamma World) so that's what I tend to be comfortable with.

As for radiation and Harrowed, I agree the effects would be minimal.

"Normal" fallout and radiation doesn't give you mutations like there are in HoE. You just get cancer and/or get sick and/or die. Period. I would think thaty as Harrowed (and their bone marrow) are already dead they can't get cancer or radiation sickness. Ghost Rock contamination is supernatural in nature so perhaps if it tries to affect the Harrowed a Manitou already inhabits the body and doesn't like to share. Even if it doesn't have Dominion now it might have it later and three's a crowd.

Added:

Also, the "normal" radiation in fallout particles are usually very short-lived. There would be little radiation 13 years later save in and around blast craters, or downwind of "dirty bomb" strikes and places where nuclear material was stored and could be dispersed. GR radiation, of course, is a whole 'nother ball game as it's not natural.

The Posse has now met up at the cemetery and mutual reactions are appropriate. I have made the reasonable assumption that Peter isn't going to hare off and neither Jane or Crichton is shooting the Sheriff in the back for yucks.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:55, Tue 13 Dec 2011.

Guys,

will post tomorrow morning. I'm just feeling too drained and tired right now.

Marc

In reply to The Marshall (msg #93):

What I can't ping him with a make believe pellet gun? No fun at all. Of course he is in power armor and doing that he might shoot me with a BFG 9000. So generally a bad idea all around.

In reply to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton (msg #95):

Adam,

Read my lips: "no yucks".

Tony

 *Unintelligible grumbling*

In reply to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton (msg #97):

Aw, who can resist those puppy dog eyes?

Okay, ONE make-believe pellet.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #98):

im on a fone so will redit postr later

No worries, I took a few liberties to clean it up.

Is everyone okay with me moving things along on Sunday? That gives you a couple days posting to talk to the local posse, shop/trade (10% discount for everyone, even Trejo), eat at Maxies, fix the truck and have it upgraded. Roadkill has to wait a few days for a contact from the Convoy to arrive but it looks like everyone is going to Boise and no need to put that off.

Tony

Guys,

I've had an additional project dropped on me yesterday, which of course has to be finished by monday (as usual)so most likely will not be able to post this weekend.
I'll try to, but I can't promise anything.

Marc

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #101):

No worries, I'll assume the Colonel is going with the flow. I don't think he has anything on his plate, nothing he needs to get anyways.

Tony

Posse,

Is anyone planning on doing any trading?

Tony

I think the colonel was. Can not speak for the rest

Ian,

I thought Rowan was going shopping and asking the Colonel to go with her. If I remember correctly, didn't you want to buy some ammo?

Marc

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #105):

Marc,

That was my impression, Rowan wanted some 7.62x39mm ammo.

Anyways, I'll move things along come tomorrow. You'll have a couple days in town to shop and recuperate. Roadkill and Peter are also waiting for a courier from the Convoy to meet up and give them a new assignment.

Tony

Maybe a week's worth of milrats. Airen is gonna be concerned with fixing the rig and meeting Misha.

In reply to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton (msg #107):

roadkill is just going to fix the truck and head to the hospital as he is still injured.

Posse,

Understood. I'm going to run through the next day or so a bit. My apologies for not going into a lot of interactions, you've all been very patient with RPing out the funeral. In return, I'd like to get things back on the road a little ASAP.

Tony

Tony is any work being done on Rowan's hover Bike?

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #110):

Ian,

So far, just an attachment that prevents her from being decapitated by piano wire strung across the road. Not sure if more can be done!

Tony

Hmm when I got the bike you said some guages were missing etc

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #112):

Ian,

You gotta be more specific when asking questions. You wanna repair the gauges, you gotta remind me.

Tony

Grin am firing that back at you. Am aware that there was damage to hover bike
You stated that some guages were missing, and you stated other cosmetic damage.
But never what it was.
Ian

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #114):

It sound like a five or ten minute fix boss. I could do it on a break from the rig or two.

 Grin let Rowan know when you are working on the bike and what the mechs think needs doing please

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #116):

As soon as Tony gives me a repair list I can tell you about how long it will take.

Ian,

I mean I do appreciate being reminded, but the details should come first!

As I recall, the bike got lit up with a cal-fifty from the front, so use your imagination! I think one of the headlights is gone, one of the mirrors and windscreen as well as some gauges. Smoker fixed the punctured fuel tank.

Tony

Ah I think that was right about the time I joined the game. And the details were sort of sketchy on hand over sinceI was unsure of what to ask at the time.
Thats right I remember the tank being fixed by smoker.
Okay thanks for the info, and appologies for the confusion.
Show the sgt the damage and see what he can do.
Thanks
ian

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #119):

Okay so lit up by a .50 cal was it a Browning or a Barret? Or just a generic .50 cal rifled round.

Browning. Our own as it was an enemy vehicle back then ;)

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #121):

AH that does pose some interesting mechanical issues. It would have to be a browning. Okay at least a half dozen rounds would likely have hit and that at least one hit the fuel tank. Hmm that would be a little bit more work than I thought. Half an hour for everything but the cosmetics, gauges and such. Cosmetics would be a little bit longer of course. Say about an hour and a half tops.

Do we need to buy any thing?

In reply to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton (msg #122):

The technical's M2HB was dismounted on a tripod and fired up an offramp in conjunction with Jane's 12mm HI SAW at a group of approaching bikers (Doomsayers), enfilading them. (It was an L-shaped ambush.) The hoverbike wasn't the only target, there were other bikes that got hit.




I think the hoverbike itself took 2 rounds from the front off-centre, one went through the windscreen and into the chest of the Doombringer riding it, and one through the gauge cluster, through the fuel tank and then through his thigh. Smoker patched up the fuel tank, it's fine but could use some aesthetic refinement.



You can get parts from the mechanics at the city garage. Let them know what you need.

Tony

Okay I was assuming it was the only target so yeah two rounds hitting. Maybe a half an hour with the cosmetic being done as well. I take it that you have seen the damage the a Browning does right Tony. Nasty. For whatever reason in real life I would rather get shot by a Barret Rifle then a Browning M-2 if I had a choice.

In reply to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton (msg #125):

Adam,

I think the damage from .127mm FMJ would be impressive. The round that hit the fuel tank hit the headlight and then instrument cluster first, deforming and fragmenting. The tank was struck by a fragment pr fragments of the bullet, not the full bullet itself.

Tony

 It is rather impressive. The difference in the Barret vs the Browning is that the Browning "dumps" it's energy into the target and the Barret doesn't. The Barret round goes straight through a car's engine block. I've seen the test shots kinda scary survivable just barely but still. My buddies in high school were gun bunnies and I had to learn to understand most of it. If Airen ever gets the chance to get an Artic Warfare Magnum Rifle I want one. It fires a .338 Magnum rifle round. It is accurate to the range of a quarter mile and just as mean as a M-2 just smaller.

Well, the Colonel carries a .338 Lapua Magnum rifle...

I wouldnt mind getting my hands on the new M4 50.Cal varient, Semi-auto only but scrounge something resembling a scope and you have quite the semi-auto killer

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #128):

I know. It is in fact quite close to your Colonel's rifle. However I think I would build a rail gun for him before I went with a standard weapon. The frame for one would be a nice starting off point though.

In reply to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton (msg #130):

Adam,

I've been light on describing what shooting irons people are carrying because the Posse aren't going around town loaded for bear. That reminds me, some PCs picked up additional weapons that need to be input on character sheets, or sold.

Additionally, there doesn't seem to be a basic 1st Aid kit for HoE, there are paramedic bags (what I'd call a Level III kit) for #500. Didn't you have some kind of medkit for your game for $100? What are the stats?

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:46, Mon 19 Dec 2011.

In reply to The Marshall (msg #131):

The rig is all sorted out now and sheet updated i see. A gun was going to be mounted too? Armour for the boys and girls?
I just thought of something really important. Smokes cigars are what is needed. I forgot all about those.

In reply to The Marshall (msg #131):

Yeah I did it was $100, but it was what in real life most people call a first aid kit. Basically some gauze and a few dozen band-aids and neosporin. It lets you use the Medicine:General skill twice before it runs out. In the alternative Airen can make them one shot "stimpacks". Would have to work the stats up to give you a price. Junkers and the Healing power rock. The Stimpacks would be rechargeable with the chemical components.

Sorry all. I am trying to keep up. you guys aren't slow posters, but also it's year-end lol. But I'm still here!!! =)

In reply to Peter Firecrow (msg #134):

Alan,

Great to hear, yay!

Sorry to Roadkill, they don't have any spare weapons to give but they fixed up a few pintle mounts in case you find any!

Tony

Yes she has got them
Can rowan sell the 10mm uzi in order to fund the Medical bag?

Posse,

If there are OOC questions and comments in the IC thread, I will usually answer and/or move the post to the OOC thread.

Ian,

Rowan already has a paramedic's medical bag. $10 will restock it. You want a second such bag?

If no one objects she can freely trade the Mini-Uzi as no one claimed it. It will fetch $150 (with magazine included).

I never finished the list:

1x 10mm Mini Uzi (empty 30-round magazine)
6x MREs
Patched-up Clothing (3x handmade shirts, 2x pairs shoes, 1x handmade pants, 3x leather pants (chaps), 2x denim vests, 1x Leather Jacket, all with "Satan's Riders" on the top rockers.) 1x motorcyle helmet (AV1).

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:08, Tue 20 Dec 2011.

Tony,

the Colonel's looking for some 4mm caseless ammo. Is there any available?

marc

Ah okay in that case forget it

She will make sure kurt and her self are fully stocked on ammo and 2 weeks MRE each.
Once this is done how much credit is left?

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #139):



Ian,

What "Marshall" is Rowan addressing and who is she referring to in the 3rd person?

Still an OOC question. Sorry for not addressing this earlier.

Ammunition is plentiful, book value (for trade). 4mm CL is $5 per round.

100x 7.62x39mm = $100
20x .45ACP = $20
Paramedic Bag restock = $10

4mm ammo = $5/round.

Michaela is going to trade the Mini-Uzi for 30 rounds of .30-30 and 3x loaded mags of SA Commando (.50SA). Rowan shouldn't claim the SMG too, she already has a darn assault rifle! Is Rowan going to detach the scope from the Fusil? She can attach it to her AK.

Tony

Michaela is going to trade the Mini-Uzi for 30 rounds of .30-30 and 3x loaded mags of SA Commando (.50SA). Rowan shouldn't claim the SMG too, she already has a darn assault rifle! Is Rowan going to detach the scope from the Fusil? She can attach it to her AK.

Tony
</quote>
I asked the question when I thought I needed the extra medical bag and asked if any one objected since she uses it for the party.
When you pointed out that I did not it ceased to be an issue. Sorry ian

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #141):

Ian,

Ah, that makes sense.

Put that way, you can certainly trade the mini-uzi for a 1st-Aid kit (which is different than a paramedic's bag). It's 2-use medical kit. (The paramedic bag is more like 6 uses, and will give a bonus to Medicine.)

Is Rowan going to trade away the 2x scope as well as the Fusil-20? It can be attached to her AK.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:22, Wed 21 Dec 2011.

 Do that but make sure the party knows the first aid bag is in the semi.

As regaurds the scope yes please fit to AK.

Ian,

thanks for paying for my ammo ;)

Tony,

what kind of 4mm? There's either frangible or AP.

Marc

Posse,

1) 1st Aid Kit (aka "personal medkit", "medkit, personal" if we want to be Morrow Project about it) is stored in the rig's cab.

2) The Avtomat Kalashnikova Novo of 2047 (aka AK-47N) has a universal rail system for attaching accessories like optical sights. Attaching the scope is a TN: Easy Shootin' Rifles task. It also requires expending 1-10 rounds to "Zero" it in, but once it is, it can be removed and reattached without a roll or further zeroing.

3) The block of available 4mm is Frangible.

Tony

 Grin you thank Rowan she is making sure her man has what he needs

Tony.
A game question please, are Rowan poltices a saleable item, and if so how much should they sell for

And another one: is there a way for the Colonel to find some work for the next couple of days to earn some money?

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #147):

No, applying a poultice is in effect casting the spell. They can be sold as poultices but won't be magical until Rowan applies them to a surface wound.

Tony

aah so the only way of Rowan making money honestly will be to go to work in the hospital or set up her own med station.
 Thanks for the clarification

Posse,

It's around 8pm on Sunday.

The repairs to the truck are completed that day as part of the armour upgrades. Roadkill notices his truck is a little more sluggish due to the sheer weight of the armour plating. With a turbocharger installed it's not too bad above 40MPH. It's not a tank but the cab and engine are at least reasonably protected against small-arms fire.

The repairs to Rowan's bike are Easy if Crichton wants to make a roll, simply a case of installing the parts. The gas tank was repaired already in a rough manner but he can certainly make it look a lot nicer. Smoker is a decent mechanic and will assist.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #151):

16:35, Today: Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton rolled 50 using 7d12, rerolling max with rolls of 11,6,9,10,4,7,3. repairs to hoverbike.

11 is my best so yeah I think I got that.

In reply to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton (msg #152):

I think your worst roll made a TN of Easy! So no problems at all.

Time to get the show back on the road!

I've been busy or this would have happened a few days ago. Anyone have any other business? Don't worry about food.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:16, Thu 22 Dec 2011.

Posse,

The pre-payment on this end is in the form of a 55 gallon drum of Spook Juice. Which should almost get you to Boise. You'll get $500 for returning the sword.

Tony

Group,

All the personnel (Roadkill, Jane, Smoker, Peter) are getting $20/day, paid by the Convoy. Fuel is also paid for by the Convoy.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 09:13, Sat 24 Dec 2011.

So rowan isn't paid?

Well you are in the form of food, water, and a ride.

Well you are in the form of food, water, and a ride.

With her own machine
Interesting so in effect in spite of every thing she really is not part of the group, and considered a hanger on

Ian,

you're not the only one. Though I think I can remember something from way back when this game got started that the additional security (i.e. us) were going to be paid per day as well..5$ or something like that.

Marc

I dunno I was just saying. As for security they should get paid. Forgot you had a hoverbike Ian my bad. Never said I was security.

I had forgoten that appologies

Posee,

Is that money that important to Rowan?

In a technical sense, Rooadkill, Smoker, Peter and Jane are being paid $20/day by the Convoy, plus fuel. Rowan and Schaeffer were contracted at the same rate one point, we could continue on with that. It's redeemable later in Convoy trade, that is, Roadkill doesn't pay you personally.

Airen, Michaela, Trejo and Sullivan (the messenger) have their own thing going.

Tony

Nope was trying to have some fun
Sorry
should have but that in as amusment, it is the one thing I always find difficult in PBEM or this form. Around table you can ssee who is making funny comments. All you see here is the printed word.
Was trying to imagin Rowan asa camp follower.
Failed miserabily.
That said of course, this comunity they are in at the momment is the sort of zone that would attract her pernamently.

ian
This message was last edited by the player at 20:13, Sat 24 Dec 2011.

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #164):

Ah, sorry! I misinterpreted that. I can see what you're saying, now. I don't really like emoticons, but in text everything is said in such a "straight" face!

Tony

 Grin mind you trade goods are always useful
Did Rowan find out what was in the book?

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #166):

Ian,

It's a cook book, of course!

Tony

yea yea of course it is

Well, the Colonel certainly's got nothing against being paid. Amm is expensive after all.

BTW guys, merry christmas!

Marc

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #169):

Robot Santa Claus says, "Merry XMas!"



Tony

May the turning of the season bring peace and comfort to all.
Blessed be
Ian

OOC
In a totaly mercinary sense.
How long has this contract now been runnning?
 $20 a day over time isa fair amount of $$$$$$$

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #172):

Ian,

I have no idea. I lost track at some point. We can call it 2 weeks or two.

That said, I haven't forgotten about chips, I will make draws when I get home and your characters are on the road.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:56, Sun 25 Dec 2011.

Happy Holidays belated and upcoming to everyone! lol!

Um...what was Rowan's deleted post? OOC stuff?

In reply to Peter Firecrow (msg #174):

Yeah, it was important but OOC stuff. Next, I'm getting out the Taser!

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #175):

The marshall is here to keep the boards neat 'n' tidy and kick some ass and he's just cleaned up the boards.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #176):

Exercising my petty vestige of power!

As for what's going on overall, it seemed a little coincidental to me that all the PCs just happen to be going to Boise, even if it's convenient for game purposes. Boise is what passes for a centre of power in the Wasted West, so it makes sense that some movement towards there is according to the HoE "meta-plot" which, of course, your PCs are not privy to. Some really is just coincidence (anything Templar-related could logically involve Boise at some point).

Tony

Marshall query
 with vehicles all repaired have they got lights?

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #178):

Lights are somewhat rare in the Wasted West because they are hard to produce and are vulnerable to collision and gunfire. Balancing that is there are or at least were many available for salvage (not affected by EMP) after the war.

I would say all bikes have at least one, the rig and technical have two.

Tony

Posse,

Peter raises an interesting tactical situation (to Crichton, a trained Marine). As they say, there's no right answer here, but it's up to Crichton to decide how he's best used!

The rig has an open position (the front fighting position) although the front and rear are covered (Sullivan in the cab covers forward, Smoker the rear. The technical doesn't really have an open position (Jane is manning the gun, can cover 360-degrees and is reasonably well-protected in the armoured bed and behind the gunshield). However, the technical is the group's main "mobile unit" (QRF) so an extra gun riding along would be handy. (The technical probably won't be overrun, what with 2-3 motorcycles and a hoverbike keeping it company.)

Also, new players should have a look at the House Rules/Errata (for game-specific information) and Cheat Sheets (if new to HoE itself) threads. Older players would do well to have a gander, too.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:04, Fri 30 Dec 2011.

Thanks
Ian

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #181):

Also, I forgot to mention that Police Pistols have 15 round cap mags, 30 for Police SMGs.

Tony

Just to let everyone know my laptop has taken a dive and I am now stuck with my cell phone. I will keep posting but it will take a little longer due that. I will keep you guys posted as things change.

Adam,

1) Ah, shitty! Best of luck, don't worry about posting. I take it you can't mess around with drop-down menus and such too much.

2) As a reminder, the following have radios: Roadkill (CB), Smoker (Walkie-talkie), Crichten (IBS helmet), Peter (CB, IBS helmet), Schaeffer, (IBS helmet).

3) "Gilles" is programmed after driver "Gilles Villeneuve", a Formula One racer from Canada who bought the farm in 1982 during the Belgian Grand Prix, still revered (in the sport) for his aggressive driving. Maybe a few bugs need to be worked out, there...

Ian,

Group,

Happy New Year's, everyone.

Nothing witty here this year, only a pic of the wife and I in Cambodia New Year's the year before last:



Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:30, Sun 01 Jan 2012.

Hmm now the question is who or what is the good lady aiming at

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #186):

Ian,

As I recall that day, I would guess the Royal Cambodian soldiers that were leering at her.

Tony

Tony,                                          Drop downs and spacing are the only issues with phone posting. But I know the coding for color so really private is the issue. I will do my level best to keep up.                                  Adam

Happy new year guys!

In reply to The Marshall (msg #185):

and it says don't touch. What do the white devils do....

oh yeah and happy new year
This message was last edited by the player at 04:00, Mon 02 Jan 2012.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #190):

After we paid, they were more than happy to let us play!

Added: The stories about them giving you a binder laid out like a menu? That's basically true. Firing off a pistol mag (Tokarev, Colt M1911) is $10 each, Assault rifles $40, B40/RPG-2s were $300 but 40mm grenades are a bargain at $50 each.

Blowing up cows... not true, at least not likely or on purpose. They said that rockets and grenades were at an outdoor live fire range. Cows or water buffalo could easily wander or be led onto the range. Livestock would mean herders and they would end any live fire exercises while they cleared the range.



Adam, don't worry about colours and formatting, I'll add those to your posts for now where needed. The rest of you mugs, you're not off the hook!

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:19, Mon 02 Jan 2012.

Just how fast are we going.
In the dark and WHY

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #192):

1) Averaging bout 40 Mph/60 Kmh for a 10-hour day. Sometimes faster, sometimes slower. You had time to either look or stop, not both. You looked.
2) You have headlights which illuminate the road in front. The guy's dressed in black off the side of the road the semi is blocking your view to the front to a degree.
3) You're in a convoy westbound and running hammer down. I'm guessing they don't have the same concept in the UK? You're not sight-seeing here!

Here, rock it with the bandit and the black Trans-Am that every kid had in his Hot Wheels collection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnRwQjTYfGI

"Eastbound and down, loaded up and a-truckin', we're gonna do what they say can't be done..."

Convoy Order:

I was thinking this out, and the best order would be the semi travelling "front door" or in front (Trejo can range ahead if he wants to risk passig it), technical as "back door" (Jane training the .50 to the rear) with the bikes in between.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:21, Wed 04 Jan 2012.

<quote The Marshall>
In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #192):

1) Averaging bout 40 Mph/60 Kmh for a 10-hour day. Sometimes faster, sometimes slower. You had time to either look or stop, not both. You looked.

NP
So we were running lights out at 40MPH in the dark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know you said we had one bulb per bike

hope mine is a head light

Grin Ian

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #194):

Ian,

I did point out you were using headlights. The rig is running dark (AI using low-light) but the tail and rear running lights are on. In theory if you follow those exactly you won't hit anything.

Tony

Okay to continue our early conversation about bulbs
Are they considered a high value trade item and are they still made in places like boise, scrap yard?

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #196):

I'll have to check if there's a price. I'd say $10/bulb for small lights/flashlights, $25 each for headlight, $50 for spotlight. Does not include lamp assembly!

Bulbs would be fairly high-value, I'd imagine. Still produced in Junkyard. Probably not Boise. Salvage all over would be common, especially near cities. The types in use before the war were very durable.

In fact, that's part of the alternative history of the setting: manufactured goods are more advanced than today (2012) but not as advanced as you'd think for 2080. Due to environmental factors goods are longer lasting, require less maintenance and more easily recyclable.

Tony

So does that mean it was an evil undead demon ninja? roadkill did think the place was weak and unready. Oh how smart he is.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #198):

Not a bad guess about Stone!

Near Wichita is as good a prepared community Roadkill or anyone's seen. Layered defences, trained militia, resident posse, even an air force. But when Stone come knocking...

Tony

Well if/when we face him...the big 50s going to be our best friend

If I have to face him, and if he does what I thin he is going to do Rowan will be hunting the bastard.
Then he will not see me when I strike

Nah the Rail gun that I am gonna build would do a heck of a lot more than a big fifty. But it is Stone so neither would be smart.
This message was last edited by the GM at 10:29, Sun 08 Jan 2012.

In reply to Tech. Sgt. Airen Crichton (msg #202):

Pretty much most weapons would just piss Stone off. He's part of the metaplot and effectively invulnerable!

Regarding traffic on the road, it occurs to me it would be standard to hail an approaching vehicle on the CB using Channel 19. Roadkill may or may not do this as a matter of course, but truckers usually would. (if only to pass along news, warnings, road conditions, requests for assistance, etc.). If Roadkill did use the CB he got no response from the Humvee.

Tony

OOC: PReferably somewhere that dosnt leve us with only one exit/firelane, and not somewhere we are sillohueted against the wall, never know what has night sights out here.

Posse,

Sorry if this hasn't been made clear, I prefer all-OOC posts be put in the OOC thread. Making an IC post and then adding an OOC note to clarify is fine (even appreciated).

Again, my apologies.

Tony

Guys,

I've been a bit overwhelmed with work over the last couple of days. I'll be back on the weekend.

Marc

OOC poor Rowan all abandoned

I've been a bit distracted as well. Well, more that I am on holiday and I tend to be lazy.

Posse,

No worries. I also assume you're stopped for a moment to have a talk on what you're doing.

Tony

Tony,

what's the distance between the main group and the scouts?

Marc

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #210):

Marc,

All on the map, my good man.

Your direction of travel is west along Iron Mountain Rd. It turns into Horse Creek Rd. through the I-80 underpass.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms...pn=0.126533,0.184708

Also, I would imagine riding the BMW would be fairly pleasant. With an IBS and helmet there's no bugs in your teeth, you don't feel the wind, it's a stable platform. Could get hot out if there was sun but it's overcast.

I put Rowan and Schaeffer between the rig and the technical, if you want to be elsewhere, that's fine.

I think anyone should be able to edit the map?

Tony

Tony,

the position's fie nad so's the bike!
Shaeffer's driveing skill (Driving(Car)1) isn't!
He's a grunt. Airborne insertion's great but driving? And compared to the trailer's fighting position the bike isn't as stable as that.

It's about two klicks from the Truck to the scouts, correct?

Marc

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #212):

Raising Ridin' to level 2 and adding the Motorcycle concentration only costs 5 Bounty. Just sayin'.

I make it 4km from the I-80 underpass to the forward element, with 2km separation between them and convoy's main body. (Sorry, in other words, yes, 2km from scouts to truck.)

The terrain is really flat but there's obstructions to sight every few hundred metres.



Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:54, Mon 16 Jan 2012.

I fuckin' hear ya.

3km = 2mi. So, 30kmh = 20mph.

We switched over to km from miles when I was a kid in the 70's but I still kind of think both in Metric and Imperial. Our speed gauges have both. Personal size and weight is still done primarily in Imperial. I remember being in an American deli and not being able to convert 250 grams to ounces. I eventually cupped my hands and said, "I'll take this much meat."

It's easy enough to covert using google. Google "convert X km to Y miles" for a quick conversion.

Tony

Yeah I know to mostly but wish I didn't have to as it seems like pointless knowledge to me.
My old "Datsun 180b" (Best car ever) was in mph as it was from 73 and the change over was in the 70s. I loved to get it up to 100mph on the country roads.

I just like to point out how insane it is that metric is not world wide, especially in the most advanced country in the world.

The only thing I can see as people not wanting is to use Celsius as it has the freezing of ice at 0 while kelvin has 0 as absolute 0.

Really? Celsius freezes at 0, water boils at 100. 20 is warm and pleasant, -20 is balls-achingly cold.

The other common alternative is Fahrenheit, which has a freezing point of 32. The other common temperature points are equally arbitrary. I think the uses for Kelvin are clear enough when you'd be using it (for science and industry), and it's not like you can actually reach Absolute Zero.

Technical Tactics:

Roadkill's instructions (it's debatable who's in command but it's useful for one person to call the shots) for the technical are along the lines of what was originally proposed. That is, as the convoy's mobile heavy support vehicle so deploying it is sensible.

The technical is in the rear because most threats will come from the front so if the rig gets engaged or stopped, the technical is free to respond. Were other vehicles to join they would go in behind the technical, or maybe it would remain "tail end Charlie" so that the Ma-Deuce (.50-cal. M2HB) can cover the rear.

That's the theory, at least. This was the suggestion of a friend of the family's who went to military academy. He was sent to military academy because he had problems growing up, it didn't "take" and instead of entering the Forces he led a life of crime. I was casting about for something to talk about other than the fact he's gotten out of jail on a drugs charges. Great, some well-meaning parents gave a budding gangster military training, just fucking awesome.

At any rate, I'll give Richard (Trejo) until today to post, then we'll proceed. (Paul, kick Richard for me?)

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #216):

I have poked Richard (Trejo).

In reply to Sgt. Ian Sullivan (msg #217):

If the posse did attempt to go around, yellowstone rd to the nth would be the obvious way to go? do we need to get on the 25?

Your general direction of travel is westward to Idaho, so if anything you're crossing I-25 and do not need to travel along it.

You can use Yellowstone Rd. to flank around to the north. It's only about a half mile (less than a km) from the Interstate so there's a risk of being seen.

Generally speaking, North is open ranchland with a some rolling hills, south is the suburbs and and ruins of Cheyenne.

[Private to Sgt. Ian Sullivan, Jane Guin, Trejo: I should clarify the renegade Black Hats (particularly Jane and Crichton) know that while it's technically possible to mount a radio watch and attempt RDF intercepts, it requires discipline and expertise far beyond the typical BH unit. So it's almost so rare as non-existent. Red Hats and automatons are another story!]

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:25, Wed 18 Jan 2012.

Adam,

He's talking to Sullivan. Or maybe his copilot...



Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #220):

Yeah Sullivan. Can't say these things on the radio.

Buddha as a navigator. that might be a bit confusing and frustrating. No doubt all direction would be in some sort of annoying riddle.

Posse,

This is awesome, the calendar of the Apocalyipse...

http://www.tarusov.blogspot.co...w-2012-calendar.html

Tony

I sit down and read the comment from the the Marshall.



Apocalypse calendar sounds fun, let me just click on that.

BLOCKED

Blogs. Hated in China.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #223):


That's a drag! Try this:




(The Reckoners in their lesser-known "Pin-Up Chick" form.)

http://sawb.soup.io/post/22153...morrow-2012-Calendar

Tony

Tony,

I'm taking you up on the 5 Bounty points for Ridin'.

Marc

In reply to COL Kurt L. Schaeffer (msg #225):

Done. The hours of riding have done wonders for Schaeffer's skill on a bike. Or, technically, trike.

Note: Crichton and Jane are manning weapons (an HI SAW and M2HB respectively) that are on 360 degree pintle mounts with gunshields, so they're relatively well-protected.

Regarding Combine chipped weapons: they will explode if someone who's non-chipped tries to use them. I think the "nuclear" option, where they explode if they get too far away from their assigned user, would be activated by commanders as a fail-safe (troops about to break, be overrun or captured) or punishment for carelessness or laziness. Jane and Crichton's Combine weapons have had the chips deactivated, at least, so they're not forced to be tethered to them!

Tony

yes but they can take the ammo if we can get it ?

Ian,

Combine small arms ammunition (which is a unique caseless calibre) isn't chipped. It's actually pretty easy to come across in the Wasted West. Black Hats aren't that hard to kill so it's captured on a regular basis but non-Combine weapons can't use it. It's usually not worth the effort and risk of deactivating Combine weapon chips.

Tony

Ahh from what I had read I thought they used an odd caliber. Hence my statement
This message was last edited by the GM at 10:46, Sun 22 Jan 2012.

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #229):

Combine weapons use oddball Combine calibres. A couple people in the group use Combine weapons, so they can use any captured weapons.

Tony

Posse,

Sorry if it seems things are moving in slow motion. I have a rough idea what the forward bikes are doing, plus the rig. I was hoping for some feedback from Peter's player, but he hasn't been able to post for a couple days. I assume Rowan and Schaeffer are keeping back with the rig.

The advantage of the current situation is the rig is not immediately noticeable, and unless the technical speeds up neither will it. The disadvantage is that the firepower of the larger vehicles isn't brought into play as quickly.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #231):

i will be back tomorow or the next. In the mean time rk will do what the others suggest. Mostly sensible ideas, flipping the truck to impress wouldnt be any good

In reply to Roadkill (msg #232):

Ah! I need a Quickness roll, then. Well, not so important for RK and the rest of the people in the truck. But Peter and Jane, at least. I'll roll for Trejo and Michaela (and Smoker).

Drivers/Riders for vehicles in motion (Trejo, Michaela, Peter, Roadkill, Rowan, Schaeffer) are all -1 Action for driving.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:00, Wed 25 Jan 2012.

Posse,

I seem to recall Marc/Schaeffer was going to have trouble posting so I posted on his behalf. My apologies if that's not the case, he can re-roll for Actions if he likes!

Tony

06:14, Today: Rowan Dawson rolled 17 using 3d6+1, rerolling max with rolls of 1,4,(6+5)11.

Ian, the Quickness roll is 3d6, not 3d6+1. The +1 skews the results, I'll need a re-roll!

Tony

all ready done with appologies

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #237):

Posse,

Something to remember for combat is to include the following at the bottom of your posts:

1. Name
   
2. Weapon in hand (Ammo/Mag)
   
3. General Location
   
4. Action(s)

Eg:

Michaela Fukushima
No weapon in hand
East of roadblock
Quickdraw Sword.
Attack #4, continue riding past the roadblock


Tony

Posse,

Your vehicles have become strung out.

At 60 Mph will take at least half a minute (6 turns) to cover the distance to the SUV. The rig will still be far behind.

If you want the technical and rig to attack together then you need to coordinate your approach better. Otherwise, just describe what your characters are doing over the next 30 seconds as the technical approaches. Unless they speed up, no one on the rig or behind it will be able to participate when the technical engages the Black Hats.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #239):

Roadkill will obviously speed up if they can spot action up ahead or hear it over the radio.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #240):

I'll make sure RK knows what is going on. What you do after is your choice!

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #241):

I'll assume the technical is hanging back to let the rig catch up.

They will hit the roadblock doing 60 MPH (about 90 to those using "metrickery"). The SUV is big enough that it will not allow either larger vehicle to pass. If you don't want to stop, the techical (or rig) will need to ram!

Tony

let it ram. always look good.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #243):

Unless posted differently, Peter will let Roadkill pass to do the ramming.

Tony

Rowan drops back to let the truck force the passage

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #245):

I will repost that to the IC thread, where it probably more belongs!

Also, I'm toying with the ide, as a of expanding "Continuous Actions", like Driving, to other areas, like shooting, as in giving covering fire.

For example, take covering/suppressive fire. Like Driving you forfeit 1 Action at the start of your turn to automatically act in all 5 "Continual Action" phases (Queen, Jack, Eight, Five, Deuce). Additional Action can be taken but at -2 for any such Actions. You must fire 1 3-round burst or 1 shot per phase. If forced to abort, you lose all additional phases.

Tony

Sorry. I realize that I didn't post in the accepted format for combat. Sigh. Peter is holding for the moment and just driving. I'll try to post better when I get home tonight.

In reply to Peter Firecrow (msg #247):

Don't sweat it, I'll let you know when that format is appropriate, for now narrative posts are acceptable!

Tony

Posse,

Don't post combat actions now, or at least, if you do, realise that you won't get to post again until the turn is over.

All drivers are at -1 Action for taking a CA. Your Quickness roll for Initiative is not at -2, but any additional actions (like shooting) are.

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:04, Thu 02 Feb 2012.

Posse,

Actually, I think it would really help if people read the road combat rules. They're not bad at all. You just get 5 "Vehicle Movement" phases per turn, a lot like Car Wars.

https://docs.google.com/open?i...MjEtZWRjMTcyMjRhNzY1

Please, please, please, give these a rule if you're driving or riding. It will make things a lot clearer!

Not the whole thing but Chapter Three: "Road Rage".

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #250):

Haha. China would just like to say that google docs is blocked.... not sure why, I guess baidu has something and the government likes to block things so Chinese can copy it and do exactly the same thing, make money then give the government a reach around..
Anyway. What book? I have downloaded about 50 deadlands and hell on earth books. I think ahead because I know it will be blo...

In reply to Roadkill (msg #251):

Oops, should have clarified that the book is "Road Warriors".

You almost certainly have it.

Ha, can't imagine why China has a beef with Google. Can you do torrents?

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #252):

torrents are fine. unlimited downloads with 10mb is good. only way to see english tv without getting dodgy satellite tv. Though pirate bay is blocked.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #253):

Would you like a torrent tracker or are you good?

Tony

Posse,

Everyone has access to the rules, correct? Perhaps even read them?

Would it kill people to post combat actions per the book, with Actions and so on? .Tac blocs?

I will post tomorrow to play out the turn.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #255):

I just posted assuming that all roadkill was doing would be driving. nothing else unless some sort of collusion roll occurs. I don't and neither would roadkill really know the start up speed of the SUV.
I know it is continuous action based on the driving cards so I guess he must be holding his card up his sleeve as he doesn't want to blow a gasket.

I also completely forgot the tac block as roadkills action is really just flavour for now. the only weapon equipped is his rig.
Automobiles are the biggest killers... or something like that.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #256):

Fair enough; to clarify, the rig is holding steady at 60 (30 yards/phase), the SUV is only doing 5mph (2.5 yards/phase) as it just started moving and had to turn away to run.

Roadkill would have a good idea the SUV would have an acceleration of about 10mph/phase (there are 4 remaining phases in this turn). At this speed, the engine's turbocharger is engaged so the rig may accelerate at 15 mph/phase up to the top speed of 100 mph.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #257):

yeah fair enough.
that is all roadkill will be doing so give me a heads up when I need to have the truck smash into the SUV.
Honestly I would know to if I could ram it and I know I would be able too take out a small auto with a truck going 60mph or more, give it a round or two and  yeah i will deal with those rolls.

Fact is i was just adding that post to keep the flow going. Then my crew can shoot away or jump off, whatever gets their characters off.

I do appreciate you posting to keep the flow going!

As well, I believe you hadn't actually made a post for the combat turn so Roadkill would have simply traveled in a straight line otherwise.

Without posts for the current turn, Peter and Schaeffer will be moving in a straight line, absent a post during the combat turn from either player.

[Private to Rowan Dawson: Rowan really needs a more detailed post as she's slowing down and getting off her bike, but I'll leave it for this turn.]

Posting general instructions is better than nothing. That said, I prefer specific information according to the rules so I'm not doing 100% of the work! I know you guys aren't beginners, you've been around the block and although DL is a little more complicated than (say) D&D 3.5 it's not radically different. (Road Warriors is a direct homage to Car Wars, which, granted, is fairly old school.)

Vehicles move in 5 pre-defined phases, while PCs move/act on a random phase. This can make acting a little difficult.

PCs can delay their actions until a later Initiative Card to make PC coordination and acting in concert with each others and vehicles easier. (For example, you could delay to act in cooperation with a slower PC, or wait until the end of the turn until after the vehicles move.) Waiting costs all Actions but one, and you use that Action on whichever following Card you like. This "held" Action can be used to Dodge or as a held card.

Example: Michaela has rolled 4 Actions and her Card is Queen. She wants to hop off her bike and attack but realises it will take until the end of the turn (vehicle movement phase in Deuce) to stop. She spends all but Action to Wait on Queen until the last vehicle phase, Deuce. At that point (when the bike has stopped) she can get off an attack.

Tony

Whoops!! Its been a while since I've been in combat in this game and I thought we were posting in order of the cards. Plus work got a little crazy (stupid bigwig surprise visits and not being able to go online at work at all).

Now looking at my post there was absolutely no reason why I needed to wait. Sigh. Sorry.

Once it gets to my turn I will do a complete discriptive post

Fair enough, miscommunications happen!

It's getting too late tonight, I'll post tomorrow. My wife and I watched Apollo 18, good movie.



I will take it up to where Roadkill rams the SUV. That should give Rowan a chance to act after.

Tony

Note:

1) Drivers already spend 1 card a turn to drive, they move on the "Vehicle" phases and may make maneuvers (for free) at those times without the need to spend additional cards (unless they want to).
2) PCs not posting specific actions are considered to be using them as a hole card instead.
3) Roadkill will likely ram on Deuce, the last phase/card of the turn. He has a ramplate so it should be pretty easy! Rowan moves on Deuce and will be able to stop and assist Michaela (I made your control roll for braking). Schaeffer waited to do the same.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #264):

I never set the roll correct.
Was it time to roll that?

In reply to Roadkill (msg #265):

I wasn't specifcally waiting for that but why not? Have you read the rules for vehicles and collisions? Roadkill can make 1 maneuver before collision and needs to make 1 turn to track the SUV, as it's fishtailing from when Jane blew out the rear tires, a Fair (TN 5) roll.

1) Rig is traveling 60 (can accelerate to 75), Van is 30).
1) Rig Size +4, Durability 140 (tractor and trailer), AV 4 (front), Ram plate (-1d6 Dmg. to rig, +1d6 Dmg. to target).
2) Van Size +3, Durability +35, AV 0 (rear)

COLLISIONS

Rear-end collisions occur when one vehicle
hits another from behind, striking it in the rear
with its front (or rear, if it’s moving in reverse).
Subtract the speed of the rammed vehicle from
that of the ramming vehicle to determine
damage.

After resolving damage, compare the vehicles’
Durabilities. If they’re within 40 points, average
both vehicles’ speeds and change the speed of
each to this average. If the difference is greater,
change the smaller vehicle’s speed to match the
larger. Continue the rammer’s movement, if it
has any remaining, pushing the rammed vehicle
forward. The distance pushed counts against the
rammed vehicle’s movement for the phase.

Collision Damage
When a vehicle runs into another object, it
takes 1d6 damage for every 10 mph of relative
speed. Subtract the vehicle’s Size modifier and
the level of the vehicle’s Armor (Armor works
differently in a crash—instead of reducing the

So, assuming you make your handling roll to track the van, the rig will ram from behind. As it's massively larger the van is immediately accelerated to 60mph (or whatever speed the rig is traveling) and takes 4d6 damage is speed is unchanged. After armour and ram plate, rig takes no damage.

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #266):

yeah I read all that. truck vs car vs speed vs rear etc. sounds like best case.

The move would be to touch and then engage. You might understand that if you know rugby. basically as soon as there is contact of the vehicles we have an acceleration, also looks good in the movies. Idea to smash through would be to centre the following vehicle to the left or right of the front vehicle. I don't know, never done it before and if it was done on 'myth busters' I missed that episode.

So you said the TN would be 5 so just made that?

In reply to Roadkill (msg #267):

Yes, rugby. I was a winger! I went to a school where rugby was for those who weren't tough enough for lacrosse.

Gave me a leg up when I went to University and the lads played "friendly" games of tackle football without pads (being young and dumb we'd progressed from touch football). At lunch one weekend I was telling my brother (we're twins so he was same year) about a particularly fun game of Junta I'd had at the games club when a particularly meaty friend of his mocked me for playing with my "dollies" or something like that. "Ha, right, say, you up for football after? I know you played." While I honestly never threw a dirty hit before when I played rugby in High School, Meatball walked with a limp for a week. Ah, revenge is so petty.

At any rate, you should make a TN 5 roll easily, if not, you might miss as you drive over the now-removed rear doors and try to track the wildly-fishtailing SUV. So at least post the roll in the Die Roll column or (preferably) make a narrative post.

Oops, make that a TN 7 roll, as the difficulty is +2 due to speed.

Tony

Posse,

As a reminder, we are very much still in combat here!

For those who post now, for whatever reason, these actions and dialogue will take place in your turn. So Peter, Rowan, Roadkill and Sullivan have posted for the turn (which is fine, just bear in mind you can only do so much). If you're not posting you are putting aside an Action as a Hole Card, you're not.

Everyone: What happened to summing up your Actions at the ends of your posts?

Crichton: Everyone's rolled Quickness for their turn's Actions. I will wait until tomorrow afternoon for your roll and post, then your character will be NPC'd.

Trejo: I have your Quickness roll, so shoot me a post now!

Tony

In reply to The Marshall (msg #269):

I want to leadership up Schaeffer. That guy needs to get firing for some cover for all. Also i just want to do that. haven't yet.

19:51, Today: Roadkill rolled 3 using 2d6, rerolling max with rolls of 2,3. redo as the roll is annoying ):
That is pretty bad. We could just say he doesnt even notice what is going then?

Why does the roll system not work as it did? It shows all but can't show the highest.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:56, Fri 24 Feb 2012.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #270):

The dice roller is a little funny, the default is not set to show only the highest result (as it gets confused when it's asked to show only 1 die). Instead, it just adds them up but as all dice are recorded I just look for the highest roll.

Schaeffer is okay for the moment, he's going to take a turn or two to aim, then snipe one of the approaching Black Hats so initiative is not really important (they don't even know they're going to get a beatdown at this point).

Tony

Posse,

I've started doing card draws, so I need Quickness rolls from the following players:

Peter
Trejo
Rowan
Roadkill

Also, Crichton drew a Red Joker. He draws a bonus Red chip! Crichton can also move at any time in the turn, but cannot sleeve a card (so that part of his action is negated). You can therefore modify/change your action, if you wish. (Technically, the Black Hat also drew a Red Joker, so there might be a conflict or a roll needed if you want to preempt his action.)

Tony
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:45, Mon 27 Feb 2012.

Posse,

Turn order has been posted.

Get your posts in! Crichton, Sullivan and Peter are done.

Drivers: by spending your 1 Action to Drive, your vehicles move on Ace, Jack,  Eight, Five, Deuce. You can make a driving action on each of these phases. If you have other Actions, you can make an additional driving maneuver.

Eg: Peter has 2 Actions and draws Jack for initiative. He spends 1 at the beginning of the Turn to keep driving (Continual Action). On the vehicle phases (Ace, Jack,  Eight, Five, Deuce) he can make a driving maneuver (brake, accelerate, steer) each of these phases for free. He also still has an Action and moves on Jack, so he can use this Action to make an additional driving maneuver but could also fire a weapon, get out and run, Aim, etc.

Eg: Trejo has 1 Action and draws Nine. He spends his 1 Action to drive. He can make 5 maneuvers over the course of the turn (1 each on Ace, Jack,  Eight, Five, Deuce phases). He has no more Actions so that's all he can do. (He can't fire, attack, draw a weapon, dismount, etc.)

Tony

Posse:

Some notes on terrain.

1) You are on an overpass. There is no cover there, aside from the concrete guard rails, which is pretty good.

2) The terrain is very flat, offering little other cover.

3) The Black Hats are just over 1.5km away, call it a mile, coming up the Interstate towards you. The Interstate goes under the overpass in a trench so you have a good field of fire.

Tony