Well, it's ongoing. That means I'll drop in round 3, but I dropped you in Round 2. Unless I can cast Resist Energy/Acid before the next pulse of damage hits me. Or does the fact that you die in rd 2 end the match?

Is vicious damage from a Feat, or a weapon enhancement?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:56, Tue 31 Mar 2015.

In reply to Antaeus (msg # 25):

weapon enchantment.

Guess we need a ruling as to whether the second match is a Win for Antaeus, or a Tie?

Lets just call it a win for antaeus. I dont think i can use free actions anytime i want after reading the rules. thats only immediate actions and free action talking. so 10 of that damage isn't there meaning 2d4+KD wont kill you.

13:32, Today: Antaeus rolled 12 using 1d20+1. Initiative, Fight #3.

16:43, Today: Yangash the Bloody rolled 2 using 1d20+1. initiative match 3.

Yangash enters with his armor on.

Antaeus begins by quick-casting a Haste spell. Empowered, he charges across the plank to strike at his foe. It comes very close to severing an artery.

Round 1:

 FREE            :Knowledge Devotion
 SWIFT/IMMEDIATE :Quick-cast Haste
 STANDARD        :Attack with Greatsword
 MOVE            :Move 50' to B3
 FULL            :

 INITIATIVE      :12
 START POSITION  :L3
 END POSITION    :B3
 ARMOR CLASS     :28
       TOUCH     :13
          FF     :27
 EFFECTS (rounds):Haste (9 rounds)
 Animated Shield stays aloft
 Spell storing sword : nothing in storage
 DAMAGE TAKEN    :
 DAMAGE DEALT    :21

 VISIBLE GEAR    :Full Plate Armor with Spikes,Heavy Shield(animated),Cloak and Brooch,Amulet,Gloves, Reinforced Large Composite Longbow and quiver of
 arrows,Large Guisarme,Large Greatsword(held),Rings(2),Vest,Rod,Gem,slippers
Bandolier with 10 potions,belt pouch,Material components pouch,Psionic Tattoos x2

 ROLLS:
13:32, Today: Antaeus rolled 12 using 1d20+1. Initiative, Fight #3.
19:31, Today: Antaeus rolled 17 using 1d20+14. knowledge Local, Knowledge Devotion.
+2/+2 vs Yangash
19:37, Today: Antaeus rolled 34 using 1d20+18. Greatsword attack.
Damn - missed Crit threat by 1!
19:36, Today: Antaeus rolled 21 using 3d6+12. Greatsword damage.

This message was last edited by the player at 05:26, Fri 10 Apr 2015.

So question, when you calculate Antaeus movespeed, do you add the 30 on after the move speed reduction of the armor? cause i'm pretty sure that the armor effects the boosted move speed as well. In medium and heavy armor, with a move speed of 60, you'd be moving 40 feet which means you'd have to charge to get to me and would not be able to smack me with shocking grasp either. (as doing so is standard action.)

You're right, I did do so. So, reduction from 60' means 40' net, right? Okay, I'll make it a Charge, and eliminate the shocking grasp damage.

 Can you use a Power Attack on a Charge? If so, I'd like to use it in this first turn, because if I am reduced to a single melee attack, I might as well use my stored Emerald Razor maneuver, which would allow me to use a Power attack even if you are in full armor.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:30, Fri 10 Apr 2015.

cant you use power attack in full armor anyways though? whats special about emerald razor?

Also i think i'm going to hold you to your actions as they stand anyways as i'm in the process of writing my own post right now
This message was last edited by the player at 05:46, Fri 10 Apr 2015.

Yangash quick casts a spell of his own and strikes at his foe with blinding accuracy and power channeling a shocking grasp spell through his chain while also delivering the raw arcane power of one of his more powerful spells. despite the immense power with which he strikes, he also maintains a defensive stance as he knows that his foe can hit just as hard as he can.

Round: 1
FREE            : Arcane Strike lvl 3 (+3 to hit, +3d4 to damage), 5 foot step to B2
SWIFT/IMMEDIATE : Quick Cast True Strike
STANDARD        : arcane channeling power attack -9/+18, fighting defensively
MOVE            : -
FULL            : -

INITIATIVE      :
START POSITION  : A3
END POSITION    : B2
ARMOR CLASS     : 24 (26)
      TOUCH     : 12 (16)
         FF     : 23
EFFECTS (rounds):

Spell Storing Weapon: None
Animated Shield: Never stops floating once activated

Knowledge Devotion (Until end of Combat):
26 Nature: vs. animals, fey, giants, monstrous humanoids, plants, vermin: +3 Attack/Damage

DAMAGE TAKEN    : 21 + 3 = 24 (possibly 26)
DAMAGE DEALT    : 67 (possibly 71 if know devotion applies to each set of damage dice rolled)
VISIBLE GEAR    : Spiked Chain  (Equipped), Greatsword, Mithril Full Plate, Animated Tower Shield, Belt, Cloak, Ring, 1 Scroll, 5 potions, Spell component pouch, 15 lbs of sand (In a bag)

ROLLS           :
00:30, Today: Yangash the Bloody rolled 18 using 1d20+15. Know Devotion: Nature.
00:39, Today: Yangash the Bloody rolled 43 using 1d20+27. Arcane Channeling Shocking Grasp Power Attack -9/+18, fighting defensivly.
00:49, Today: Yangash the Bloody rolled 34,6,9,18,3 using 2d4+27,2d6,3d4,5d6+2,1d6. lots a damage.


Summary: Yangash deals 3 damage to himself and 67 damage to Antaeus. If Knowledge devotion applies to all forms of damage regardless of if they are part of the weapon damage roll or not, then yangash has dealt 5 damage to himself and 71 damage to Antaeus. But i think a DM ruling on what exactly Know Devotion applies to on a single strike should be requested. especially if 71 damage puts you in the grave.

Regardless, as all this damage was dealt by a single attack, Antaeus must make a DC 15 Fort save or die outright.


This message was last edited by the player at 06:05, Fri 10 Apr 2015.

As far as I know, the Devotion bonus applies to both spell and weapon damage. Luckily, 71 does not put me in the grave.

23:28, Today: Antaeus rolled 23 using 1d20+11. Fort save DC 15.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:28, Fri 10 Apr 2015.

but would it apply to the vicious enchantment on my weapon and the arcane strike damage added to my weapon via my feat? thats truly what id like to know. Cause if so, then its time to get all the weapon enhancements that add extra dice rolls to my damage.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:32, Fri 10 Apr 2015.

I don't think it would add to a Rogue's dice, because that is added damage. Same thing with the Vicious and the arcane strike damage. I believe (GM can correct me here) that it applies whenever you have an attack roll to see if the damage affects me. It would NOT work with Magic Missile, for instance.

Will leave that to GM ruling.

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If ruling is negative, here is round 2:

Staggering from the massive assault, Antaeus rallies. Using the speed lent to
him by his Haste spell, Antaeus lays waste to his opponent with three quick
strikes, each drawing massive amounts of blood from Yangash.

Round 2:

 FREE            :
 SWIFT/IMMEDIATE :Activate Ape's Fury (+4 STR)
 STANDARD        :
 MOVE            :
 FULL            :Full attack vs Yangash

 INITIATIVE      :12
 START POSITION  :B3
 END POSITION    :B3
 ARMOR CLASS     :28
       TOUCH     :13
          FF     :27
 EFFECTS (rounds):Haste (8 rounds),Ape's Fury(10 rds)
 Animated Shield stays aloft
 Spell storing sword : nothing in storage
 DAMAGE TAKEN    :71
 DAMAGE DEALT    :21 + 78 = 99.

 VISIBLE GEAR    :Full Plate Armor with Spikes,Heavy Shield(animated),Cloak and Brooch,Amulet,Gloves, Reinforced Large Composite Longbow and quiver of
 arrows,Large Guisarme,Large Greatsword(held),Rings(2),Vest,Rod,Gem,slippers
Bandolier with 10 potions,belt pouch,Material components pouch,Psionic Tattoos x2

 ROLLS:
+2/+2 vs Yangash
23:38, Today: Antaeus rolled 29 using 1d20+20. Greatsword attack #1.
23:36, Today: Antaeus rolled 26 using 3d6+15. Greatsword damage #1.
23:37, Today: Antaeus rolled 30 using 1d20+20. Greatsword attack #2.
23:36, Today: Antaeus rolled 22 using 3d6+15. Greatsword damage #2.
23:37, Today: Antaeus rolled 35 using 1d20+15. Greatsword attack #3.Threat!
23:37, Today: Antaeus rolled 21 using 1d20+15. Crit Confirm. No Crit.
23:36, Today: Antaeus rolled 30 using 3d6+15. Greatsword damage #3.

I think it would actually work for magic missile. Knowledge devotion simply states:

So by that reading, if there's a damage roll that is to be made, then I get an extra boost to it if the creature of of the correct type which means that each set of damage dice i roll on a single strike gets the boost, which is actually pretty powerful if you've got multiple different damage dice on one weapon. But once again, i think that is DM territory


Oh yeah, and Yangash is dropped once more. Stop rolling so high already jeez. :P

01:58, Today: Yangash the Bloody rolled 16 using 1d20+1. initiative match 4. - this is the deciding match. if you win, then the whole match is yours and i really need a new strategy. :P
This message was last edited by the player at 07:01, Fri 10 Apr 2015.

Might not need that strategy. If DM rules that both the Vicious and the Arcane strike damages get the benefit of Know Devotion, it's a lot more powerful than we've been playing it.

15:18, Today: Antaeus rolled 6 using 1d20+1. initiative match 4.

You're up first.

FREE            :
 SWIFT/IMMEDIATE :
 STANDARD        :
 MOVE            :
 FULL            :

 INITIATIVE      :6
 START POSITION  :L3
 END POSITION    :L3
 ARMOR CLASS     :27
       TOUCH     :12
          FF     :26
 EFFECTS (rounds):
 Animated Shield stays aloft
 Spell storing sword : nothing in storage
 DAMAGE TAKEN    :
 DAMAGE DEALT    :

 VISIBLE GEAR    :Full Plate Armor with Spikes,Heavy Shield(animated),Cloak and Brooch,Amulet,Gloves, Reinforced Large Composite Longbow and quiver of
 arrows,Large Guisarme,Large Greatsword(held),Rings(2),Vest,Rod,Gem,slippers
Bandolier with 10 potions,belt pouch,Material components pouch,Psionic Tattoos x2

 ROLLS:
This message was last edited by the player at 22:22, Fri 10 Apr 2015.

Yangash begins his forth and possibly final match in his series of seven by casting two scorching rays at his foe. Channeling his rage though his ranged spell, he manages to strike Antaeus in the face, causing serious burns to the half giant. Yangash smiles and laughs as he then expeds pure arcane energy to empower his attacks should antaeus attempt to draw close enough to warrant an attack.
"Perhaps now the mighty shall fall. Wouldn't you agree Killgore?" Yangash whips his chain out and readies for Antaeus to launch his assault.

Round: 1
FREE            : Arcane Strike lvl 3 (+3 to hit, +3d4 to damage - melee only)
SWIFT/IMMEDIATE : -
STANDARD        : Cast Scorching Ray
MOVE            : Draw spiked chain
FULL            : -

INITIATIVE      :
START POSITION  : A3
END POSITION    : A3
ARMOR CLASS     : 24
      TOUCH     : 12
         FF     : 23
EFFECTS (rounds):

Spell Storing Weapon: None
Animated Shield: Never stops floating once activated

Knowledge Devotion (Until end of Combat):
22 Nature: vs. animals, fey, giants, monstrous humanoids, plants, vermin: +2 Attack/Damage

DAMAGE TAKEN    : 0
DAMAGE DEALT    : 45

VISIBLE GEAR    : Spiked Chain  (Equipped), Greatsword, Mithril Full Plate, Animated Tower Shield, Belt, Cloak, Ring, 1 Scroll, 5 potions, Spell component pouch, 15 lbs of sand (In a bag)

ROLLS           :
17:24, Today: Yangash the Bloody rolled 22 using 1d20+15. Know Devotion: Nature.
17:31, Today: Yangash the Bloody rolled 32,20 using 1d20+12,1d20+12. Scorching ray x2, Touch AC 12.
17:31, Today: Yangash the Bloody rolled 21 using 1d20+12. CRIT!!!!!!!!!!
17:32, Today: Yangash the Bloody rolled 28,17 using 8d6+4,4d6+2. come on damage! Papa needs a new pair of shoes!


Summary: Yangash deals 45 damage right out of the gate with his scorching rays. He grows very confidant of his chances of taking down Antaeus just this once as a result.



OOC: I think I might have a shot at winning this one! :D
This message was last edited by the player at 22:56, Fri 10 Apr 2015.

OOC: I thought Arcane Strike only worked with weapon attacks, not spell attacks.

That exactly correct. and that's why i did not apply bonuses to the scorching ray. However, it does apply for a full round untill the start of my next turn so if i have the opportunity to make an AoO against you, it's going to apply to that when i attack with my spiked chain.

Precautionary measures, ya know?

Cant do it on your turn so i have to do it on mine just to be safe.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:43, Fri 10 Apr 2015.

Damn, you will likely win this one. The fact that I am flat-footed until I act is putting a damper on all my counters. Got to think a bit, see if I can pull anything out of this one.

Antaeus is shocked by the damage output. Think you might get this one he say as he activates his gloves and his Animal Devotion. He moves to the north 10', and casts Resist Fire to prevent a follow-up strike.

Round 1:

 FREE            :Use Arcanist's Gloves: +2 CL for Resist Energy spell
 SWIFT/IMMEDIATE :Animal Devotion
 STANDARD        :Cast Resist Energy- Fire
 MOVE            :
 FULL            :

 INITIATIVE      :6
 START POSITION  :L3
 END POSITION    :L1
 ARMOR CLASS     :27
       TOUCH     :12
          FF     :26
 EFFECTS (rounds):Fire Resistance 30(90 rds),Animal Devotion(10 rds)
 Animated Shield stays aloft
 Spell storing sword : nothing in storage
 DAMAGE TAKEN    :45
 DAMAGE DEALT    :

 VISIBLE GEAR    :Full Plate Armor with Spikes,Heavy Shield(animated),Cloak and Brooch,Amulet,Gloves, Reinforced Large Composite Longbow and quiver of
 arrows,Large Guisarme,Large Greatsword(held),Rings(2),Vest,Rod,Gem,slippers
Bandolier with 10 potions,belt pouch,Material components pouch,Psionic Tattoos x2

 ROLLS:
17:42, Today: Antaeus rolled 18 using 1d20+14. Knowledge Devotion/Local
+2/+2 vs Yangash

"Ah, let us hope so. Your blood is high on my list." Yangash replies stepping forwards from his starting position. Casting an arrow of pure acid at his cowering opponent. Yangash attempts to weaken Antaeus further by whittling him down bit by bit before he is ripe for the picking, releasing more pure arcane energy as he does so to strengthen his melee strikes should the half giant decided to face Yangash head on.


    A   B   C   D   E   F   G   H   I   J   K   L
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
1 |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | A |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |   |   |   |   | Y |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+


Round: 2
FREE            : Arcane Strike lvl 3 (+3 to hit, +3d4 to damage - melee only)
SWIFT/IMMEDIATE : -
STANDARD        : Cast Acid Arrow
MOVE            : Move to E3
FULL            : -

INITIATIVE      :
START POSITION  : A3
END POSITION    : E3
ARMOR CLASS     : 24
      TOUCH     : 12
         FF     : 23
EFFECTS (rounds):

Spell Storing Weapon: None
Animated Shield: Never stops floating once activated

Knowledge Devotion (Until end of Combat):
22 Nature: vs. animals, fey, giants, monstrous humanoids, plants, vermin: +2 Attack/Damage

DAMAGE TAKEN    : 0
DAMAGE DEALT    : 45 +8 = 53

VISIBLE GEAR    : Spiked Chain  (Equipped), Greatsword, Mithril Full Plate, Animated Tower Shield, Belt, Cloak, Ring, 1 Scroll, 5 potions, Spell component pouch, 15 lbs of sand (In a bag)

ROLLS           :
20:18, Today: Yangash the Bloody rolled 23 using 1d20+10. Acid Arrow, TAC 13.
20:18, Today: Yangash the Bloody rolled 8 using 2d4+2. Damage.

Summary: Yangash deals 8 acid damage to Antaeus. The acid will continue to melt him for 3 rounds unless neutralized.

If I have an immediate action to negate your AoO, would it fall on THIS turn? Or would I be able to use a swift action this round, and use my swift action for next round to counter?

An immediate action uses up the swift action of the next turn you arrive at. So if you used an immediate action now, you would be unable to use a swift action on your next turn.

You could however use a swift action on your next turn and then use your immediate action anytime during the end of your next turn and the beginning of your next next turn so long as you did not use your immediate action between now and the start of your next turn.

Actually, as this is my action of Round 2, I could move towards you, use my Swift action as an Immediate Action to block your AoO, and make my attack run, correct?